#suggestions-discussion
whole tundra
#suggestions-voting message iirc this is already happening
half imp
Yeah elementals will be resprite
fleet grotto
rethinking this rn
gilded citrus
How could they make the cynosure less confusing outside like
A meta disclaimer in the item that yharim isnt in the game yet
small bramble
I like the usage of the word "voluptuous"
errant wren
Yeah elementals will be resprite
are elementals going to be buff and gender non-conforming?
prisma sedge
I mean, I guess they could give it a temporary change that'd have it seem less like you can fight him right now, then change it back when he's released
Not sure how necessary that'd be though
vocal moth
~~are elementals going to be buff and gender non-conforming?~~
MAKE BRIMSTONE HAVE NORMAL BODILY FEATURES
prisma sedge
@vocal moth
This is already in progress
vocal moth
ok thank you
also ive been skimming the wiki
there are some things still connected
if you want should i compile them
errant wren
Not sure how necessary that'd be though
it's not like there's ever been the problem that people think yharim is in the mod, to my knowledge
shit ping mb
fleet grotto
MAKE BRIMSTONE HAVE NORMAL BODILY FEATURES
prisma sedge
I'm sure there's been casual players that were confused by that, but even then, there's enough talk about how he isn't in the mod yet that it wouldn't take long for that confusion to pass
vocal moth
give yharim them instead
golden sonnet
tracers have their own sprite, fabs wings are just recolored solar wings
prisma sedge
Aren't the wings also being changed, just being kept more angelic?
I could swear that was mentioned in spoiler talk
errant wren
I'm sure there's been casual players that were confused by that, but even then, ...
"Come now, face me..."
in Calamity 2"
crude geode
vocal moth
tracers have their own sprite, fabs wings are just recolored solar wings
ok
ill delete it
errant wren
I could swear that was mentioned in spoiler talk
and i think there was the new sprite in the video in #mod-announcements
prisma sedge
The Wings of Rebirth and the new Tracer wings will have different designs iirc
coral carbon
give yharim them instead
"good luck on your breast reduction surgery!"
"Thanks Yharim!"
"Congratulations, your surgery was a success."
"Where's Yharim?"
"Who do you think took your boobs?"
tepid crown
vocal moth
"good luck on your breast reduction surgery!"
"Thanks Yharim!"
"Congratulations...
absolute cinema
tepid crown
yharim is transmasc
prisma sedge
Fungal Clumb
fleet grotto
"good luck on your breast reduction surgery!"
"Thanks Yharim!"
"Congratulations...
brb
crude geode
Fungal Crumb
still hazel
any tips for mechs
errant wren
i shouldn't even be typing he- wrong channel
crude geode
any tips for mechs
vocal moth
God damn it loss
fleet grotto
ITS NOT LOSS
errant wren
as i was about to say, i really should be focusing on the multiple assignments i have due
vocal moth
Its loss
errant wren
not loss
crude geode
Literally isn’t
vocal moth
everything is loss
errant wren
first panel has 2
gilded citrus
Its a different meme
vocal moth
everything with someone over a bed is loss
coral carbon
WHAT THE FUCK ITS ALREADY REAL??
fleet grotto
I made it a while agi
coral carbon
FUCK
vocal moth
My idea
coral carbon
nothing is original anymore
vocal moth
fair
novel belfry
fleet grotto
God damn it loss
anyways it's this
fleet grotto
yeah that's probably true
crude geode
Actual Brainrot
novel belfry
this world will end in loss
the world will loss
crude geode
@thorn dock you’re gonna need a reason for this, especially beyond “it would be cool”
prisma sedge
anyways it's this
I've always wondered why his feet are all the way down there
vocal moth
yeahs
coral carbon
I've always wondered why his feet are all the way down there
look at the first panel
thorn dock
<@411958640107585537> you’re gonna need a reason for this, especially beyond “it...
Well thats a pretty strong reason right? B could be .. probably easy to implement.. okay let me sink
Think*
thorn dock
Well almost everything in this game allows vanity overwrite. Funghi is an exception .. He just wants to be seen
golden sonnet
Well almost everything in this game allows vanity overwrite. Funghi is an except...
No other weapon or accessory that summons something has this
wdym "almost everything"
lavish condor
as in like clicking the eye to hide it maybe?
glass arch
even then . that doesnt hide summons does it
lavish condor
no as far as I know
thorn dock
wdym "almost everything"
Was refering to gear & accs in general. But your point is good.
lavish condor
you can hide armor by putting vanity over it but not accessories unless they're the same "type" like two shield accessories
would putting a summon weapon in vanity over the clump just replace the sprite? That'd look awkward with like 90% of summons I think
half imp
yeah this isn't how vanity stuff works
kind sleet
cursed
wet canyon
They should do this as a bandaid fix until dia’s sprite is implemented
fickle rapids
#suggestions-posting message make it the flesh of adultery to piss off this one guy
fickle rapids
Yeah elementals will be resprite
1984
glass arch
my guy that was not that large you didnt have to delete them all
kind sleet
they kinda ate up half the chat so... ^^'
fickle rapids
my boytoy husband rare earth :(
kind sleet
ok 
fickle rapids
he returns to me.
glass arch
brimmy is the biggest one that Needs needs to be nuked
kind sleet
while myself i barely use the Heart of the Elements i really like them alot
fickle rapids
we need to destroy the brimmy sprite
bbl brimstone
fickle rapids
can we leave my goat rare earth
fickle rapids
i honestly dont see what the problem with Brim is just wow breasts how horrifyin...
misogyny amirite fellas
make rare earth great again </3
i will defend elementals till the day i die
its lines innit
drowsy plank
i honestly dont see what the problem with Brim is just wow breasts how horrifyin...
ok glad to see im not insane i found it weird as fuck when someone said we needed to make brimmy "normal" earlier in this chat
fickle rapids
abolish heart of the elements resprite 2025
drowsy plank
anyway @thorn dock i have no idea what you're talking about here; i dont know any item in calamity that lets you overwrite their summon sprite with a summon weapon by putting it in a vanity slot or something
fickle rapids
what mod is bro playing
kind sleet
acctuly... idea what if we like renamed Heart of the Elements and made a copy of it
drowsy plank
lmao
fickle rapids
can we make a heart of the elements clone that makes them all men but nothing changes
theyre all really clocky transmascs to me
esp rare earth
errant wren
we need non-binary elementals
fickle rapids
speaking of rare earth
errant wren
~~we need non-binary elementals~~
-# (hey that would make a little sense actually)
fickle rapids
#suggestions-posting message is rhis a valid suggestion
because
rare earth
pmo
a lil
errant wren
rare earth...? SAND???
fickle rapids
loam
errant wren
wait i need to...
fickle rapids
hrm perhaps its overly restrictive
errant wren
who the ding dang is rare earth
kind sleet
a cute elemental that occasionaly heals you
errant wren
fickle rapids
rephrased
errant wren
i'm very nitpicky sometimes
crude geode
Nope
errant wren
pfft okay
tepid crown
i love it
errant wren
to rare earth
the hrt was clay and gravel
fickle rapids
thats gonna be my next suggestion. it rolls off the tongue better.
joke
fickle rapids
the hrt was clay and gravel
you get it
tepid crown
i love it
sand elemental is the actual elemental representing "earth" while the earth elemental is just a construct made by azafurians
fickle rapids
earth elemental is a fraud
thats why shes not femme
if she was the goat
no disrespect to butches but like. clocky transmascs
and femmes
🥹
errant wren
happy pride month, everyone
fickle rapids
can i suggegst “make heart of the elements gay”
tepid crown
no
errant wren
something something "doesn't really solve a problem"
errant wren
with that, though, a mod to change the sprites based on preference would be hilarious
fickle rapids
something something "doesn't really solve a problem"
we could say this about adultery flesh man
fickle rapids
with that, though, a mod to change the sprites based on preference would be hila...
the sprites dont change at all when you make them gay they all hold a lil flag
you will take your clocky transmascs and you will enjoy it
prisma sedge
ok <:sip:1142077132047122472>
Why must the sand construct have jiggle physics...
errant wren
this is starting to be a bit indicative of... something...
i shouldn't entertain this further
fickle rapids
Why must the sand construct have jiggle physics...
necessary evil
for the purpose of
idk. looking cute?
still necessary
errant wren
anyways, someone go make a mod to customize the gender expressions of elementals for the express purpose of it would be funny
prisma sedge
At least Anahita is a single physical entity, Sand Elemental is just sand
Why does the sand have jiggle physics?
kind sleet
she has nothing holding her being together
👆
errant wren
Why does the sand have jiggle physics?
maybe the elemental wanted that?
fickle rapids
i love sand tit discourse
she deserves to keep them
for being a sidenote on the heart
prisma sedge
I mean...fair enough actually
fickle rapids
for being a sidenote on the heart
not even the most visually interesting sand elemental on the heart i fear
errant wren
this is so offtopic at this point
prisma sedge
And now that I think of it, it is kind of weird in Anahita's case
Because I get that she's a mermaid/siren/whatever, but she's a lot more fishy and less human than the usual fish centaur depictions
fickle rapids
she deserves to have tits
because she gets ganked
all the time
ergo, she is worthy
fickle rapids
cheme
prisma sedge
Understandable honestly
fickle rapids
let her be grean but also let her keep the tits
errant wren
why are we still talking about this lmao
indigo yacht
i think they should remove elementals from calamity
prisma sedge
why are we still talking about this lmao
tis funny
indigo yacht
it would solve all the problems
kind sleet
why are we still talking about this lmao
i dunno intressting talk
crude geode
why are we still talking about this lmao
It’s suggestion discussion, this place goes offtopic all the time
indigo yacht
and also we should remove dog while we're at it. just while we're in the neighborhood
prisma sedge
Replace all bosses with Old Duke
crude geode
Replace all bosses with the worst one?
errant wren
okay to talk about the sugg itself, i think it'd be better if the rare sand elemental healing projectile was tossed in the player's direction
since rare sand already tosses it in the sprite
indigo yacht
Replace all bosses with the worst one?
destroyer in the corner
crude geode
Destroyer is at least vanilla’s fault
kind sleet
replace all bosses with Exo Mechs and add a 60 sec revive timer for each part
prisma sedge
since rare sand already tosses it in the sprite
She just spikes it into your head
indigo yacht
Destroyer is at least vanilla’s fault
that's true but calamity still makes it even worse
novel belfry
Destroyer is lame especially because they're supposed to be an upgrade to the EoW
and the EoW is probably somehow still one of the MOST INTERESTING worm bosses, simply for the fact that it splits
prisma sedge
Destroyer is lame especially because they're supposed to be an upgrade to the Eo...
Which is kind of...odd considering that EoW's main draw, to me at least, is the unique splitting mechanic
Which Destroyer doesn't have outside of its probes
crude geode
The probes are trying Byeah, splitting is at least unique
novel belfry
Honestly, I wished that the Destroyer parts that eject their probes became invincible
indigo yacht
its so over
prisma sedge
And I mean, they are trying, but they aren't much different from like...the myriad of other boss summons
fickle rapids
why are we still talking about this lmao
i love tits
indigo yacht
make the probes less obnoxious or something
novel belfry
Not Thanatos 2
Thanatos is his upgrade. 
prisma sedge
It's more similar to King Slime's slimes, really
fickle rapids
Replace all bosses with Old Duke
fuke dishron
kind sleet
errant wren
i love tits
based and true
fickle rapids
Which is kind of...odd considering that EoW's main draw, to me at least, is the ...
perf
errant wren
anyways
fickle rapids
replace every boss with fuke dishron
errant wren
i'm going to go finish my essay for real now
fickle rapids
fuke dishron best mod oat
errant wren
just gotta shove in 150 words somewhere
fickle rapids
next to kratos verde
fickle rapids
just gotta shove in 150 words somewhere
what about up your butt
fickle rapids
indigo yacht
just gotta shove in 150 words somewhere
make sure your elaboration repeats itself at least 4 times
indigo yacht
please grow and change as a person 💜
errant wren
make sure your elaboration repeats itself at least 4 times
way ahead of you
fickle rapids
Ehhh- the perf worms are more like the Desert Nuisance summons, aren't they?
one (1) splits
indigo yacht
one of my favorite parts about eow worms is the fact that single segments cant exist on their own
errant wren
the middle one
indigo yacht
because it introduced the slightest bit of skill into killing the boss quickly
specifically targeting the second first/last segments to kill two at once
prisma sedge
Kind of surprising by the way, I would've expected for that to just summon an eater of souls
indigo yacht
what if damage dealt to the destroyer probes counted as damage towards the boss itself maybe that would make the fight less awful
(if removing probes entirely is off the table)
prisma sedge
what if damage dealt to the destroyer probes counted as damage towards the boss ...
Less awful? Perhaps
Way easier to melt than it already is? Definitely
fickle rapids
fuck the probes genuinely
crude geode
Isn’t removing probes entirely just killing the only gimmick destroyer has a chance of having
indigo yacht
I'll just hope that at least one of the people who works on destroyer is a nohitter
fickle rapids
just give it twenty fuckin billion hp and no projectiles like kratos verde
indigo yacht
I'll just hope that at least one of the people who works on destroyer is a nohit...
they will understand
karmic stone
Move on
fickle rapids
yea
kind sleet
sorry for kinda... accidentaly turning this into general chat
fickle rapids
yea
i really wanna joke about it but its also really annoying and i just gotta move on
indigo yacht
does not look like either of my suggestions will make it to voting, oh well
crude geode
As if the middle of hardmode needed more bloat
errant wren
astral infection is also kind of in weird spot in progression, now that i think about it
similar to evil2
dense locust
no it isnt
dense locust
ok?
indigo yacht
this is only tangentially related but the astral meteor falls like, 30 seconds or so after killing wof instead of instantly to help with lag right
errant wren
i know, move plantera to post-providence
dense locust
so true
frail fox
It’s in a weird spot in that it doesn’t really have an identity or anything, it’s just like Hallowed but, again
And at the same time
errant wren
then you have the issue of the bosses
it's all just kind of weird imo
thank you terraria progression for being weird when stuff needs to be added
dense locust
the solution is to remove the astral infection
indigo yacht
so true bestie
indigo yacht
what
indigo yacht
i was thinking maybe just leave aureus where it is now but move the astral meteor itself to post ml or something
idk
just make like a few meteoroids to spawn aureus with but no actual biome
errant wren
aureus can be fought as early as starblight soot can be obtained, currently at least
heh, fuse hive mind and perforators and aureus into one boss
fickle rapids
astrum aureus is like, damn near impossible until like golem or something
indigo yacht
?
fickle rapids
maybe im magepilled
errant wren
astrum aureus is fightable as early as the beginning of hardmode, is the main point
indigo yacht
i was thinking maybe just leave aureus where it is now but move the astral meteo...
would solve the problem of having no post ml content, and also it would be much less out of nowhere like the hallowed currently exists, and also would arguably help make post ml less boss centric? but you'd also probably have to move deus and also all the equipment would need to be tier shifted which is a lot of work
errant wren
whether or not you can beat aureus is a skill moment
fickle rapids
astrum aureus is fightable as early as the beginning of hardmode, is the main po...
robert downey junior image you can fight bosses
indigo yacht
imstuff
indigo yacht
"astrum aureus is so hard" aureus' mortal enemy is a ruler
echo leaf
indigo yacht
hi prikki
fickle rapids
the wrong biss
errant wren
deus
fickle rapids
im thinking of the wrong boss.
dense locust
you mean deus?
the one you can kill premech with relative ease?
indigo yacht
i was thinking maybe just leave aureus where it is now but move the astral meteo...
is this the worst idea of all time or passable
fickle rapids
aureus is easy
echo leaf
fickle rapids
you mean deus?
the one you can kill premech with relative ease?
im not that good
dense locust
you dont need to be good
echo leaf
is this the worst idea of all time or passable
terrible idea. killing you with hammers
errant wren
i dislike deus
fickle rapids
to be fair i struggled to find a mage weapon to deal with deud
indigo yacht
terrible idea. killing you with hammers
💔
fickle rapids
to be fair i struggled to find a mage weapon to deal with deud
beat that thang w last prism
dense locust
to be fair i struggled to find a mage weapon to deal with deud
betsys wrath:
tome of fates:
atlantis:
art attack:
errant wren
ok but can we fuse aureus with the evil2 bosses to make the result evil2 itself
fickle rapids
oh post anahita is something
errant wren
i love atlantis being pre-hardmode
fickle rapids
what of pre mech somehow?
dense locust
agressive tanking
fickle rapids
i love atlantis being pre-hardmode
you overestimate how good i am
fickle rapids
agressive tanking
oh ok
indigo yacht
~~ok but can we fuse aureus with the evil2 bosses to make the result evil2 itsel...
aureus + evil 2 is a very random boss combination
fickle rapids
ah yes. astrum perforaters
dense locust
perfs but all 3 worms are just deus
errant wren
aureus + evil 2 is a very random boss combination
but i'm not entirely wrong, am i?
indigo yacht
i mean i guess they both come from things that are mostly dead
fickle rapids
perfs but all segments of all 3 worms are astrum aureus
fickle rapids
but i'm not entirely *wrong*, am i?
you are bro
indigo yacht
but i'm not entirely *wrong*, am i?
Are we going to combine old duke and desert scourge just because they're both a brownish color
fickle rapids
perfs but every worm segment is moonlord
perfs but its all old duke all the way down
errant wren
i'm coming from perspective of evil2 placement being wack and astral being kind of weird as a biome
dense locust
Are we going to combine old duke and desert scourge just because they're both a ...
worm with predictive charges
horror
fickle rapids
wait cant you just stop moving that way tho
indigo yacht
the destroyer rework we've all been waiting for
fickle rapids
destroyer rework: its all old duke
indigo yacht
at least old duke is an okay boss fight
novel belfry
honestly, i think Astral Infection has to be moved up away from the beginning of Hardmode
fickle rapids
destroyer rweork: its all moonlord
novel belfry
like, whether that be a little post-mechs, post plantera, or if we're insane post-moonlord
fickle rapids
replace destroyer with a metal brain of cthulu
novel belfry
it should not be spawning around the same time that we have to deal with two other infections
fickle rapids
eow is supposed to be moonlord spine right?
novel belfry
mind you, the astral infection doesnt SPREAD, probably because juggling THREE infectious biomes at once would be insane for players
indigo yacht
one thing ive always wondered is why astral happens after wof anyways
like I'm sure it's probably just a relic of previous versions
errant wren
i got it now
indigo yacht
but like it's a meteor
wof has absolutely no correlation to when things decide to fall out of the sky
errant wren
astral post-mechs pre-plantera, rework aureus to be mech BoC
indigo yacht
did you forget to take your meds today
errant wren
yes very
indigo yacht
i see
errant wren
i am always full of bad ideas and today i am on my last stretches of sanity
fickle rapids
replace moonlord with a really strong brain of cthulu
novel belfry
Post-Moon Lord could make sense, if you assume my headcanon that Moon Lord invaded this world because his was overtaken by the Astral Infection, maybe he could've been pulling double duty in the role of scaring away the infected Astrum Deus from infecting out world
indigo yacht
would solve the problem of having no post ml content, and also it would be much ...
ok now i just thought of adding the meteoroids to phm instead and letting the player spawn aureus then that would be funny
wet canyon
Moving astral would be great, and I think that post plantera would work, as golem to moon lord just becomes a boss rush, so adding to the exploration side would work well
errant wren
post-plantera bloat...
indigo yacht
calamity is a bloat mod. we should delete it completely
(is there really any issue with having a lot of content at the same time? bloat has a negative connotation but genuinely what is the enormous problem with it)
(sure, the pacing suffers, but like is there really anything beyond that?)
glass arch
it depends
errant wren
i think it's mostly post-plantera that has a lot of content unlocked
glass arch
often times bloat is assigned to places that just have a lot of content
but content bloat is when theres so much content that it overshadows itself
errant wren
if you think about it, there's content bloat at the start of the game /j
glass arch
but content bloat is when theres so *much* content that it overshadows itself
so while yes plantera does have a lot of content unlocked i would say it isnt to the point where the content unlocked there overshadows itself
keen zodiac
post plantera has:
buffed dungeon with all the weapons
cores of calamity
shroomite gear
spectre gear
terra weapons
perennial weapons and armor
great sand shark
pumpkin moon
frost moon
buffed solar eclipse
and like 5 other things i'm forgetting
adding an entire ass new biome there is a terrible idea
errant wren
astral does add a good amount of things
and aureus and deus would be closer together probably
in terms of when you can reasonably fight them, at least
keen zodiac
if the astral got moved further up deus would need to be post moonlord
dense ferry
I see no reason to move the Infection further in progression, it should simply be given meaningful content before Aureus
errant wren
i'm in favor of putting astral post-mechs but pre-plantera, if we were to move it to somewhere else in hardmode
indigo yacht
but content bloat is when theres so *much* content that it overshadows itself
and is this a bad thing? should players be forced to interact with every single thing that happens during a certain stage of progression? weapons, armor, and accessories don't follow that line of thinking, there's (supposed to be) a fair number of options for every class at every stage in progression, where you only need use one or even a weapon from a previous tier rather than every single one
lucid marsh
Astral infection should be moved earlier instead. Post mechs, pre plantera
glass arch
once you kill plant you do essentially 4 things
go to the dungeon
do moons
do eclipse
miscellaneous crafts that dont individually make up massive parts of progression
indigo yacht
i suppose it comes down to whether or not the astral infection is considered optional or integral
dense locust
I see no reason to move the Infection further in progression, it should simply b...
fishing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lucid marsh
once you kill plant you do essentially 4 things
go to the dungeon
do moons
do ec...
There's a lot more than that. Abyss, leviathan, golem, and moon events
keen zodiac
There's a lot more than that. Abyss, leviathan, golem, and moon events
abyss is unlocked by calclone
errant wren
leviathan is technically optional also
indigo yacht
abyss is unlocked by calclone
you mean leviathan
frail fox
fishing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Literally the fishing biome
dense locust
There's a lot more than that. Abyss, leviathan, golem, and moon events
levi is in no way locked behind plant
neither is golem
lucid marsh
It's on tier
dense locust
ok?
errant wren
on-tier is different on a technicality
dense locust
if we're only talking about on tier things moons shouldnt be here
keen zodiac
we're talking about when most people do things
glass arch
abyss isnt unlocked by plant, i already mentioned moons, boss unlocks or intended progression of bosses arent counted for this because that leads to a snowball effect where once you kill a boss then theres also the content unlocked by that boss which includes new bosses which includes all of their unlocks and you see where im going here?
dense ferry
One thing worth considering about Post Moon Lord Infection: There is absolutely no room for it to thrive properly with the Distortion around and the fact that it won't really have any meaningful content after DoG.
I believe that the Astral Infection works best as something being introduced at the start of Hardmode to make the player interact with these kinds of forces beyond Terraria, making the shift into the Pillars and Moon Lord less thematically abrupt.
The problem with the Astral Infection, too, is not solved by simply moving it later in progression. There is no space for this thing to be put into the world, this will not change no matter where we move it in progression, and a solution for this conumdrum must be found.
keen zodiac
abyss isnt unlocked by plant, i already mentioned moons, boss unlocks or intende...
you don't have to count content unlocked by the next bosses actually
you can just not do that
indigo yacht
I'd like to point out that in my first calamity playthrough i did not even come close to fighting all the bosses. i did all the necessary ones and maybe like... 9 of the optional ones
glass arch
you don't have to count content unlocked by the next bosses actually
or you can also just not count those bosses!!!!! that works too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
errant wren
astral is just kinda weird at the end of the day
keen zodiac
or you can also just not count those bosses!!!!! that works too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we're talking about things you do after x boss
which includes bosses
indigo yacht
I'd like to point out that in my first calamity playthrough i did not even come ...
so there was a lot of content and systems i just didn't interact with. but in my second playthrough i ended up fighting a few more optional ones and interacting with a little bit more
dense ferry
I'd like to point out that in my first calamity playthrough i did not even come ...
This is something I believe we should go back to much more strongly. The player shouldn't be expected to fight every Boss every playthrough, we don't need to justify every Boss' existence by shoving locks behind them. Some Bosses should be allowed to simply exist and be optional content
indigo yacht
i also like it, it encourages replayability even more than it already is
dense locust
the term foughtable here confuses me
keen zodiac
fightable
errant wren
able to be fought
indigo yacht
i think they just mean "fought"
crude geode
This is something I believe we should go back to much more strongly. The player ...
agreed
arguably one of the things that burnt me out on calamity was fighting every single boss every playthrough, since it's fairly encouraged by the game, in and out
glass arch
which includes bosses
and also the stuff you do after those bosses
which leads to a snowball effect where you just keep going and going and going and eventually you look back and realize you just put all of progression after the boss
i limit it to things outside of other boss content because its really hard to distinguish what is and isnt also on tier once you start taking into account other bosses
keen zodiac
and also the stuff you do after those bosses
which leads to a snowball effect wh...
it doesn't have to include the stuff you do after those bosses actually
indigo yacht
arguably one of the things that burnt me out on calamity was fighting every sing...
not really tbh fighting every boss is more of a mental thing
i would know because i do it too
glass arch
it doesn't have to include the stuff you do after those bosses actually
it doesnt have to include those bosses in the first place and what im saying is that im NOT including those bosses
keen zodiac
i like fighting every boss every time bc i'm a completionist
errant wren
cal has an identity that makes this topic pretty nuanced, which i guess is pretty neat
keen zodiac
it doesnt have to include those bosses in the first place and what im saying is ...
how can you not comprehend nuance
glass arch
???
indigo yacht
low% is entirely enabled by the attitude that you don't have to kill every boss so I don't think it's calamity that's encouraging 100% boss kills
dense ferry
In my opinion...
Crabulon
Slime God
Cal Clone
PBG
Deus
Signus
Old Duke
All of these Bosses should fall under "Bosses that unlock nothing besides their own drops"
Oh, and Dragonfolly
keen zodiac
In my opinion...
Crabulon
Slime God
Cal Clone
PBG
Deus
Signus
Old Duke
All of ...
then how would astral ore work
keen zodiac
????
dense locust
astral ore doesnt need to exist lets be honest
indigo yacht
real and true
keen zodiac
oh
errant wren
pickaxe power when it
keen zodiac
yeah probably
dense ferry
The only problem here is that
There isn't a pickaxe at that tier
We'd have to make one
keen zodiac
astral pickaxe 
errant wren
hell yeah
dense locust
just make it astral pickaxe
and have astral slimes drop the ore post deus
errant wren
there's a lot of content to work with, i'm realizing
keen zodiac
but i do think astral ore should stay in some form because finally being able to mine this mysterious meteor after so long is really cool
keen zodiac
just make it astral pickaxe
and have astral slimes drop the ore post deus <:clue...
slimes already do that
glass arch
???
its really hard to draw the distinction of "does post aureus count as post plantera or does that count as its own progression tier" which gets really fucktangular very quickly so instead of trying to unfuck that fucktangle i would much prefer to stay in a position where that fucktangle doesnt exist
frail fox
The only problem here is that
Laser Drill
dense locust
slimes already do that
....I know
keen zodiac
Laser Drill
post golem
indigo yacht
star god bone pickaxe
keen zodiac
its really hard to draw the distinction of "does post aureus count as post plant...
hot take
aureus should be post golem
indigo yacht
why
keen zodiac
so we can return to having a calamity boss between each vanilla boss (in hardmode)
dense locust
post golem is already an extremely bloated tier
indigo yacht
there's already 4 bosses there
crude geode
Ravager is getting moved bc it’s place is a mess
keen zodiac
from golem to cultist is way too short imo
glass arch
its really hard to draw the distinction of "does post aureus count as post plant...
and the way to keep that fucktangle nonexistant is to not take intended boss progression into account when talking about direct unlocks
dense locust
from golem to cultist is way too short imo
and plant to golem isnt?
glass arch
from golem to cultist is way too short imo
yeah because it inherently isnt built to have extra content in there
keen zodiac
yeah because it inherently isnt built to have extra content in there
and?
indigo yacht
Ravager is getting moved bc it’s place is a mess
isn't that not happening for like a Long Time™
errant wren
we need to make a chart of what intended progression looks like currently
keen zodiac
isn't that not happening for like a Long Time™
crags update i think
dense locust
and?
and adding more bosses to the already bloated post golem boss pool doesn nothing to fix that problem
glass arch
like cultist just Shows Up, the solution to that isnt to shove more circle shaped content into a square shaped hole
errant wren
we need to make a chart of what intended progression looks like currently
i'm too lazy to do this though
keen zodiac
we need to make a chart of what intended progression looks like currently
it's called boss checklist
drowsy plank
intended progression in on the wiki
errant wren
ah true
dense locust
we need to make a chart of what intended progression looks like currently
this exists already
indigo yacht
i have boss progression memorized but gear progression is a bit fucky so idr that well
jungle is post eoc and moons are post golem is about it
keen zodiac
i think the jungle thing was removed
glass arch
like cultist just Shows Up, the solution to that isnt to shove more circle shape...
the solution is ideally to make golem to cultist to moon lord not take the span of roughly 15 minutes by making the unlocks not immediate
errant wren
this exists already
ok damn i'm sorry for being exhausted today 
indigo yacht
i think the jungle thing was removed
no, it's still intended progression
dense locust
not your fault
keen zodiac
no, it's still intended progression
fym no
it was still removed
keen zodiac
what
indigo yacht
what do you mean "removed"
errant wren
whuh
glass arch
its still intended progression that you go to the jungle post eoc
indigo yacht
the developers still intend for players to get jungle equipment after killing eye of cthulhu
glass arch
its still intended progression that you go to the jungle post eoc
just like its intended progression that you do yharon after dog
indigo yacht
i never mentioned that
frail fox
Was it ever a thing
drowsy plank
what
indigo yacht
i was talking about specifically intended progression
drowsy plank
eoc never physically locked jungle drops
indigo yacht
anyways I'm going to go remove extraneous gear recommendations from class setups
glass arch
yeah
errant wren
i
frail fox
Jungle Guardian eoc
glass arch
the jungle never had an eoc lock on it
keen zodiac
so the multiple people that told me that on separate occasions were just lying cool
errant wren
i can't comprehend things today
drowsy plank
anyways I'm going to go remove extraneous gear recommendations from class setups
class setups should already reflect this
errant wren
ima just leave
indigo yacht
class setups should already reflect this
it's a different thing
royal tapir
Jungle Guardian eoc
Need
errant wren
see y'all when i can use my brain
indigo yacht
someone added like life crystals to it and that's just not necessary
glass arch
so the multiple people that told me that on separate occasions were just lying c...
either that or you just misinterpreted people telling you to go to the jungle for loot after you kill eoc
royal tapir
frail fox
Does this to you
royal tapir
So exciting
crude geode
Mr Shark can you buff Atlantis :)
drowsy plank
someone added like life crystals to it and that's just not necessary
oh someone did that despite us saying not to
awesome
indigo yacht
nah i don't think anyone explicitly said anything about it beforehand
this sucks to do on a phone
Does this count as readding old content
drowsy plank
unsure
keen zodiac
catalyst already adds heaven's hell sent gift
errant wren
part of me wants to count it as that, but i don't know
coral carbon
..wait, is heavens hell sent gift not in game?
dense locust
got replaced with a similar but different theme
wet canyon
it was remastered into heaven sent abomination
hollow shell
You should mention Heartreach Potions in your Rare Sand suggestion @fickle rapids
They let you collect the orbs from afar, like Hearts
keen zodiac
..wait, is heavens hell sent gift not in game?
catalyst uses it as the title theme
and the box drops from astrageldon
restive wharf
Democracy
gritty acorn
@west rampart
#suggestions-posting message
the nefarious titanheart armor:
@sleek sable #suggestions-posting message
ehhhh i mean they arent OFFICIAL
like those that u described are technically fan musics
even if its dm dokuro that made em
grave zincBOT
@mortal tusk - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[make the dreadon storyline stuff more mainline]
It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
@whole tundra - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Make freshly generated Calamity worlds start at 4:30am instead of 8:15am]
It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
@alpine dawn - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Remove the Goblin Peon's ability to destroy doors]
It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
west rampart
the nefarious titanheart armor:
XD
tiny minnow
Better idea: make them the Otherworldly music.
fickle rapids
You should mention Heartreach Potions in your Rare Sand suggestion <@1216425617...
true, although making it depend on a buff potion is not amazing imo
thorn dock
true, although making it depend on a buff potion is not amazing imo
Indeed, makes it an acc with co-dependancy/ no integrity
fickle rapids
retweet
fickle rapids
make elementals bigger
humble scarab
aint there a sound cue when you can perform stealth strike?
slender mica
aint there a sound cue when you can perform stealth strike?
yeah, there's, but there's the music, weapon attack sounds and boss attack sounds too... It's easy to not listen to it in the middle of chaos.
humble scarab
yeah, there's, but there's the music, weapon attack sounds and boss attack sound...
when you have 1000% music and sounds lowered then i understand its hard to hear
and i think its better to shoot smth rather than clicking and nothing happens
cuz you have to aim
and some would just spam leftclick anyways, cuz they wont need to care about stealth meter anymore
slender mica
and some would just spam leftclick anyways, cuz they wont need to care about ste...
is for people that wants to use stealth strikes... and you can't attack without enough stealth for a stealth strike when you have this toggle button enabled
humble scarab
is for people that wants to use stealth strikes... and you can't attack without ...
yea, but when you dont pay attention how much stealth you have, it ends up spamming left click hoping its full
slender mica
yea, but when you dont pay attention how much stealth you have, it ends up spamm...
and my suggestion solve the problem lol
humble scarab
and my suggestion solve the problem lol
by that i meant, you will end up spamming left click without any effects till your stealth bar is full
and it would just ignore the gimmick
whole tundra
aint there a sound cue when you can perform stealth strike?
there's also a visual cue
humble scarab
of the class
whole tundra
no
humble scarab
if you having troubles with accidently shooting not stealth strike, then dont force dmg and just wait
slender mica
and it would just ignore the gimmick
I get it but why rogue need to have a gimmick that makes the class harder to play than the others that can just smash the attack button? (we don't talk about summoner)
humble scarab
you dont have to kill the boss as fast as possible
humble scarab
I get it but why rogue need to have a gimmick that makes the class harder to pla...
how it is harder
its just different way
slender mica
a bit harder if you use stealth strikes
humble scarab
I get it but why rogue need to have a gimmick that makes the class harder to pla...
its terraria
every class shouldnt have the same difficulty of usage
slender mica
its terraria
tell that for the guys that use 100 "QoL" mods like wing and shoes slot, alchemist npc and luiafk lol
humble scarab
its just diff way of playing the game
humble scarab
tell that for the guys that use 100 "QoL" mods like wing and shoes slot, alchemi...
how that matters
tepid crown
if u want to use rogue without stealth just play spam
humble scarab
im saying that summoner do dmg by summons
humble scarab
if u want to use rogue without stealth just play spam
he have problem of accidently using spam
humble scarab
im saying that summoner do dmg by summons
ranger by guns
tepid crown
oh i fully understand wat the sugg is asking
theres literally a mod for this already
slender mica
no, I don't, it's just make things more comfortable
tepid crown
im just saying that there is a way to play rogue without stealth
humble scarab
just because one is harder to use, doesnt mean they should be reworked
slender mica
theres literally a mod for this already
there's? wtf
humble scarab
and in the end, rogue literally gives you another option if you dont wanna learn timing or change settings
slender mica
I don't have any reasons to play rogue without using stealth strikes, not because is stronger or something, it's just more fun using it
humble scarab
I don't have any reasons to play rogue without using stealth strikes, not becaus...
then learn instead forcing a change
slender mica
then learn instead forcing a change
but I can 
, but you think that everyone can? don't think only about yourself
gilded citrus
Dont they plan to decentralise the mage meta of mana potion usage eventually
Meaning possibly mage also wont be hold down to attack endlessly for parts of it?
tepid crown
Dont they plan to decentralise the mage meta of mana potion usage eventually
Me...
stupid gun
this isnt about mage
humble scarab
but I can <:dorocross:1297517512644362240> , but you think that everyone can? do...
you cant hear the sound cue which have specific sound which you cant miss cuz of music - change the values so you can hear sounds
and like i said, you dont have to hit always
you can wait
you dont have to kill bosses as fast as possible
humble scarab
Dont they plan to decentralise the mage meta of mana potion usage eventually
Me...
good that they change mana potions
gilded citrus
this isnt about mage
Theyre suggesting making it possible to make stealth a hold attack forever thing
Im saying that calamity will prob increase the amount if not doing that in the mod
humble scarab
Theyre suggesting making it possible to make stealth a hold attack forever thing...
then how would you spam if you cant hold?
hold when you have full stealth?
or i missunderstood
gilded citrus
or i missunderstood
Probably that
College lesson tho gtg
vestal crater
Imo good if it’s true
olive saddle
isnt the snow biome like 1500 
humble scarab
why xd
gritty acorn
lmaoo
olive saddle
its fine when redigit does it
gritty acorn
i edited my suggestion
olive saddle
humble scarab
imagine building with snow
gritty acorn
can u make a separate suggestion for it
cuz if one gets declined the other will be declined too
humble scarab
aint 300 a little to low?
gritty acorn
300 is like for other biomes
humble scarab
can u make a separate suggestion for it
i think you should
gritty acorn
like jungle and crimson
gritty acorn
i think you should
im on cooldown rn
gritty acorn
iirc ye
humble scarab
then also include information about it
gritty acorn
can sm1 make a suggestion abt it
olive saddle
wait this reasoning is gonna be fire hang on
olive saddle
gritty acorn
lesgoo ty
distant gyro
i might drop a nuke over your head
distant gyro
you know who
olive saddle
no actually its why I asked lmao
olive saddle
i thihk its just the lack of reasoning
vestal crater
Yeah
humble scarab
every other biome is 300
vestal crater
Just copy paste sleepingisoverrated suggestion lol
humble scarab
beside astral
olive saddle
in my defense. the devs wanted shorter suggestions and i feel like there isnt much reasoning necessary
distant gyro
i thihk its just the lack of reasoning
no actually its
2 of the almost same suggestions
olive saddle
oh fair
distant gyro
you get it
gritty acorn
i mean i did tell him to make the suggestion, not his fault
distant gyro
it might as well be one
gritty acorn
should i edit mine to include the snow biome
distant gyro
i mean i did tell him to make the suggestion, not his fault
ohh okay im redirecting the nuke
gritty acorn
hsdahjfdhjg
humble scarab
gritty acorn
nnnooo
olive saddle
gritty acorn
ok wait should i edit my suggestion
humble scarab
<a:AG_KonataYay:866053908500447263>
just dont forget to delete your sugg
vestal crater
ok wait should i edit my suggestion
Ye
gritty acorn
k sec, delete urs eliott
olive saddle
i told it to come outside for a gift
gritty acorn
ok ive edited
distant gyro
also 1500 is the number for vanilla snow and desert that's probably why
uncannily massive i think
gritty acorn
oh wtf
distant gyro
jungle gets away with just 140
distant gyro
literally the duality of artificial biomes
indigo yacht
i was going to comment on the 4 valid suggestions in a row but it looks like the invalid ones just got removed already
hollow shell
true, although making it depend on a buff potion is not amazing imo
(hence me saying to add a mention to your suggestion. That's a feature currently in the mod. Your reasoning will be stronger if you acknowledge it cuz it's a legitimate counterargument)
fickle rapids
(hence me saying to add a mention to your suggestion. That's a feature currently...
oh true
hollow shell
Nice thank you 👍
dense frost
Could respriting the moon lord's hand and head eyes after death (on revengeance or death mode) be an option?
Mehhh
Screw it
I attempted to write it as best as I can
indigo yacht
Could respriting the moon lord's hand and head eyes after death (on revengeance ...
you should probably write about making the difference clear and use respriting as a potential way to do that rather than the whole suggestion
dense frost
you should probably write about making the difference clear and use respriting a...
Is the new suggestion better?
indigo yacht
sure i guess
dense frost
Actually?
frail mantle
they probably hit enter too early give them a moment
dense frost
"add endgame hammer"
That would be a tad bit useless imo
astral sage
isnt enforcer getting killed
vocal moth
wdym?
Why kill the true melee weapon and not some other random bs weapon like deathhailstaff
fleet grotto
enforcer is getting murdered yes
vocal moth
whyy
astral sage
what will get bleed for 8 seconds then😔
vocal moth
ok
gritty acorn
L astral biome suggestion
a
dense frost
I don't really find it actually being useful
I only use hammers for building and clearing out areas
drowsy plank
yes that is the purpose of hammers
dense frost
I use this for the use of that
drowsy plank
the only other good way to clear out walls is explosives which can be problematic for a variety of reasons
dense frost
..m...
drowsy plank
an endgame hammer is completely reasonable
dense frost
Yeahh
tepid crown
id prob just ask to remove the final line
vocal moth
the only other good way to clear out walls is explosives which can be problemati...
arent there alr lategame hammers
drowsy plank
crazy
drowsy plank
no there is grax
it's not even late game either like you get it post-provi there's still like 3 or 4 stages of progression after that
indigo yacht
cirrus' dress sucked and was not helpful in nohitting
fleet grotto
i agree with this suggestion
indigo yacht
cirrus' dress sucked and was not helpful in nohitting
maybe it used to be before it got nerfed
fleet grotto
it was a fine item which i think could still be used
fleet grotto
i think some of the reasonings are off but ido agree with it
novel belfry
it was a fine item which i think could still be used
it’s better off being an accessory tbh
fleet grotto
I think it could be a bit too much value
crude geode
Nohitting isn’t even good reasoning for a sugg like this
Unavoidable damage? Yeah.
“This item was good for nohitting so it should be added back”? Absolutely not
frail fox
Not even worth using because when are 2 extra alcohols more valuable than the benefits a chestplate + set bonus provides
indigo yacht
boss ru
misty lichen
god slayer pickaxe
echo leaf
Not even worth using because when are 2 extra alcohols more valuable than the be...
the most I can fathom is as a niche using Mollusk armor
in the future, alcohols are getting a major rework so maybe it'll be relevant then
gilded citrus
Future content suggestions get 💥
flint owl
That would be a tad bit useless imo
well it would have it's uses I hammered pretty much this entire section out took longer to do that then it did clearing out the blocks but I do understand it's uselessness otherwise
dense frost
well it would have it's uses I hammered pretty much this entire section out took...
Yeah
hybrid steeple
#suggestions-posting message 🙏 one day we wont need this suggestion bc rev moon lord will be harder in a way that makes sense instead of just regrowing his eyes
dense ferry
The nefarious Moon Lord code
hybrid steeple
itll happen,,,,,
frail fox
Return of killable true eyes
indigo yacht
rev moon lord will have legs in 2026
hybrid steeple
clearly
keen zodiac
how the hell did the astral sugg make it to voting
serene tendon
how the hell did the astral sugg make it to voting
Makes sense to me
I voted for it
keen zodiac
it's way too big
they'd have to rebalance literally everything related to the astral except aureus and deus
that's so far out of scope
keen zodiac
you can craft tons of shit with stardust
serene tendon
Oh yeah right
fleet grotto
But there's no astral weapons until Post-Aureus anyway
glorious ened
all the fishing stuffs
dense locust
(all 2 fishing weapons)
fleet grotto
all the food fish, crates, ursa sergeant, the weird ass bait
why can you get bait from fishing
indigo yacht
ursa sergeant doesn't need any changes to survive in post ml
tiny dragon
you can craft tons of shit with stardust
Outside of a chunk of the alcohols, really only Lunic Eye and Biome Blade are the 2 items that directly use Stardust pre-Aureus
Comet Shard too
fleet grotto
why can you get bait from fishing
even from crates it's a bit weird but at least it's not from the rod directly
indigo yacht
stardust frog leg
fleet grotto
Outside of a chunk of the alcohols, really only Lunic Eye and Biome Blade are th...
i'd consider fallen stars
tiny dragon
and I can see the alcohol recipes being replaced with Pixie Dust instead of Stardust
I think the only problem that I can think of is that all content unlocked via Aureus would also be locked behind Plantera
misty lichen
they'd have to rebalance literally everything related to the astral except aureu...
not really
90% of astral content is not available when it spawns
it’s titan heart armor (already worse than statigel in most cases for rogue so not a big loss), and 2-4 accessories and weapons that could easily be buffed for the tier
also i like how nobody here actually called stardust by its ingame name
indigo yacht
sick burnt star
tardy geyser
yooo
fleet grotto
is this the right channel
indigo yacht
@ornate shale read suggestions doc and formatting guide (top message of #suggestions-posting )
half imp
The ark of the cosmos suggestion doesn't work because
wait actually
nevermind I'm not sure
I know attunements were shuffled around on changelog idr how that effects AotC
Or if we said it did at all
small bramble
lowkey I understand the alcohol suggestion cuz yeah having to go from just buying the drinks you want to crafting them (some with annoying materials to get) is definitely a step up in pain
I think if you made them all crafted in stacks of 10 like red wine, that would help a lot
red ravine
i would like if you could maybe use an alchemy station
that would make alcohols less toxic imo
glass arch
tavernkeep physically cannot sell the alcohols
and a new npc for the sole purpose of selling alcohols when they just removed the npc with said purpose is probably not a great idea
red ravine
i guess they could do a second shop like in some qol mods
that would be a little clunky tho
lucid marsh
Tavernkeep already has the maximum (?) number of interaction buttons
humble scarab
Who says he cant have more buttons
But imo, it would be hard to give tavernkeep alco
tardy geyser
if you want to be able to get them with low effort then just cheat them in, its not like money is an issue in cal
Byeah they are better crafted imo
humble scarab
Byeah they are better crafted imo
True
small bramble
i guess they could do a second shop like in some qol mods
there's vanilla code for this as well with the painter's two shops - maybe it could be copied or smth
covert zealot
and a new npc for the sole purpose of selling alcohols when they just removed th...
Obviously we just need to make the sea king french
misty lichen
the crafting obtainment method is temporary anyways, 90% sure
and the alchohols are being changed to be more worth spending effort on obtaining aren’t they
dense frost
Obviously we just need to make the sea king french
Le poisson
whole tundra
@thorn dock read the suggestion guide at the top of #suggestions-posting
thorn dock
<@411958640107585537> read the suggestion guide at the top of <#6993590223644918...
Thx
small bramble
I lowkey dig the suggestion lol even if I'm not sure the devs would (they got a lot on their plate as is)
thorn dock
It would atleast create a huge tension curve among us
gritty acorn
@ornate shale good suggestion but bad suggestion formatting
gritty acorn
do we need an NPC to sell all the alcohol?
idk i just need smth that makes it so the recipe becomes obsolete
those recipes are annoying
make it so the bartender has a page for em, hes useless enough rn
gritty plaza
calamity mod players when they have put in work to get things
gritty acorn
calamity mod players when they have put in work to get things
alcohol names are shit
its gonna be annoying to look up the recipe for each
frail mantle
can just sort by recipes made at a keg can't you
pretty sure that's something recipe browser lets you do
ripe owl
I need the rover screenshot about the average terraria player
gritty acorn
smh thats different
ripe owl
no that's not
ripe owl
you literally want to make your game easier for no reason
gritty acorn
potion crafts are just annoying
ripe owl
just download alch npc duh
ripe owl
then stop bitching about potions being hard to craft
gritty acorn
they arent hard to craft
ripe owl
swallow that pill or spit it out and take your sugar candies
gritty plaza
we should kill blood orbs
ripe owl
you can still see the recipes if you search for its crafts
ripe owl
yeah and now we can remove them so that the redundant stuff goes
gritty acorn
instead play with no qol
frail mantle
cal already gives you a shitton of seeds from the planetoid lab
gritty acorn
cuz the base game is cool enough
frail mantle
(unless that was changed
ripe owl
yeah and maybe not complain about game being hard
covert zealot
you will make the true night's fishing rod and you will like it
ripe owl
or inconvenient
gritty acorn
cal already gives you a shitton of seeds from the planetoid lab
its good yes
i alrdy have a crop farm rn
frail mantle
and then you just buy planter boxes from the dryad and get a staff of regrowth and you're golden
frail mantle
non-issue
gritty acorn
i never said it was
i just dont like it when things are annoying
in a game where ur supposed to have fun
covert zealot
i did 30 fishing quests in one sitting on vanilla once, people have to take the fish pill
gritty acorn
looking up each alcohols is annoying and yes u told me abt the keg ik now
gritty plaza
it takes like six seconds it's seriously not that deep
covert zealot
what are the alcohol crafting mats again? havent played since update
ripe owl
what are the alcohol crafting mats again? havent played since update
keg plus whatever else was fitting
bruh
ale
at a keg
and some other stuff
gritty plaza
humble scarab
thats so true
covert zealot
ty!
humble scarab
blood orbs are alrdy annoying enough to obtain
💀
you can just place lava
and boost spawn rate
humble scarab
cuz personally i just kill dreadnautilus
damn
i avoid this miniboss at all cost
i hate him
covert zealot
whats a good way to get 7 gazillion blood orbs btw?
i like fishing but blood orbs are convenient
humble scarab
dig a hole
gritty plaza
either dreadnautilus or lava pit + zerg pot
humble scarab
place above you lava
and zerg
idk how much dreadnautilus drops
but i find it easier to just lava
gritty plaza
indigo yacht
its true
genuinely seems like they hate putting in ANY amount of effort and just want everything done for them instantly
"i dont like grinding just let me craft everything"
"i dont like crafting just let me buy everything"
"i dont like fishing just let me do one of the two above"
"i dont like building houses just let me have that done for me"
"i dont like mining just also do that for me"
i suppose all of those can be summarized as "i want this done for me"