#suggestions-discussion

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thick bone
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(i alr knew everyone hates fabsol)

tepid crown
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whips were planned before the incident

whole tundra
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I think the post title could just be changed to More Calamity Summoner Weapon that aren't summons

fleet grotto
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I would count sentries, but that's like almost all of them i think

prisma sedge
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I'm also kind of curious even with the plans for whips aside, what does "a weapon that summoners can always rely on" mean exactly, if there isn't already something like that in the mod?

golden sonnet
fleet grotto
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Hi classless weapons love you

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That's the wrong message

prisma sedge
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That's why I was confused, I'm not sure what's really missing that they're asking for, beyond whips

fleet grotto
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lol

tiny minnow
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I feel there needs to be more of a "reason" to play Death Mode. Currently all the unique stuff are post-DoG. Even just pets like vanilla master mode is something.

gilded citrus
fleet grotto
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@hallow elm it's not happening im sorry

hallow elm
fleet grotto
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she's already being executed and all her features are being moved
i also don't think any donator things are being accepted anymore

balmy folio
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They shoulda made her jesus christ

prisma sedge
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Were donor NPCs ever an option, anyways?

gilded citrus
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Jesus selling you alcohol

gilded citrus
balmy folio
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Jesus turns water into wine

prisma sedge
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I don't either

glass arch
balmy folio
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think about it

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cirrus being jesus is perfect

fleet grotto
glass arch
balmy folio
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Jesus can do everything cirrus can do

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and turns water into wine

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it would be really funny

balmy folio
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"guys i really need to get jesus to beat this next boss"

fleet grotto
whole tundra
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The Thank You painting got introduced after donor weapons ended I think

hallow elm
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to be clear: the 'replace drunken princess with myself' wouldn't be like 'oh, the drunken princess gets a resprite and instead of cirrus, it's salora', I was imagining a whole new NPC that sells the candles and booze (and the booze gets reskinned into soups because I am a soup freak). Has totally new dialogue bcs I am not fabsol.

gilded citrus
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Theyre making the alcohols craftable in the fabdead mini update

keen zodiac
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ten morbillion dollars

tiny minnow
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Kid, you aren't being part of a major content mod that easily

hallow elm
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I genuinely mean this: it was pure impulse and whimsy

golden sonnet
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if you want to contribute sprites the art server does accept public submissions and it's how a lot of the current sprites in the mod got in. That being said, Cirrus is being removed so this is not a thing you can resprite as it won't exist

errant wren
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if anything, drunk princess should be replaced by me because i did nothing for this mod but it would be funny XD

hallow elm
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I have never contributed anything to this mod ever lmao

thick bone
hallow elm
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*she

thick bone
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sorry

hallow elm
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lol

errant wren
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anyways

hallow elm
tiny minnow
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To be honest I started using "kid" after the Devourer stopped.

thick bone
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he stopped using kid?

hallow elm
errant wren
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oh my god i'm gonna be in my 20s this year holy crap

thick bone
errant wren
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thank you cal community for ruining my social life

hallow elm
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(comedy = discount?)

thick bone
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that'd be funny

balmy folio
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Can we bring back the DoG being pretentious dude has zero personality now

hallow elm
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my aesthetic style is 'hippie that likes the color red' so the implied pairing would be very hilarious.

edgy bastard x sunny flower girl

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im telling y'all

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slkjglkjglkd

balmy folio
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"like oOoh its unprofessional" DUDE EATS GODS THATS THE POINT HE THINKS HES BETTER THEN EVERYONE

thick bone
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hes super boring now

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went from one of my favorite bosses to not even on my top 10

balmy folio
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Fabsol really did a 1 step forward 2 steps back. Like yeah it looks cool now. But its fucking boring

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its lame

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it isnt intresting at all

boreal lichen
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this

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has has nothing to do with fabsol

drowsy plank
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what is this suggestion even asking

balmy folio
boreal lichen
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no he did not write the dialogue

indigo yacht
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lobotomy

gilded citrus
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Fabsol isnt a lore writer

indigo yacht
indigo yacht
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oh

gilded citrus
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The lore got completely rewrote over 2 years ago and with new writers
They have eaten gods and god essence, just not any named ones

gilded citrus
hallow elm
# drowsy plank what is this suggestion even asking

mine?

simply that I'm willing to pay money to add myself in as a town NPC that sells the candles and booze items, also the booze items are reskinned to be soup.
as a town NPC, I would be very gay and also sweet and silly, and also I have a crush on calamitas so that would make for a few funny dialogue options.

I'm just full of whimsy and silliness so I went into this server specifically to ask if it's possible to pay money to add myself in as a replacement NPC. because it would be very funny to replace a gay self insert with another gay self insert.

indigo yacht
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No

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it's not possible

hallow elm
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i know

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i was just explaining

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its all good

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oh it got removed

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nvm sorry bout that

balmy folio
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The first fucking sprite for DoG lmao

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Can we bring this guy back i kinda like him

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Hes just a little guy

drowsy plank
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lmao

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i hope more worm bosses die imo

gilded citrus
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No bosses are dying

drowsy plank
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i know i just want them to stop being worms

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this is just my general desire

balmy folio
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The worm bosses legit felt like dude just got lazy and wanted to churn out a new boss

indigo yacht
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the only worm i think is actually good rn is aquatic scourge

drowsy plank
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Aquatic Scourge, Astrum Deus, and Storm Weaver all only exist because resprites for other worm bosses didn't want to be "scrapped"

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so instead we got 5 worm bosses

novel belfry
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im of the belief that dog's worminess is too engrained in him compared to the other worm bosses

prisma sedge
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I used to be of that belief, but come to think of it, there's no real reason for him to be one beyond nostalgia

idle dagger
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DoG has a planned rework and his size is so enormous I think it’ll make him stand out from worm bosses

novel belfry
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that is true!

drowsy plank
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yeah DoG is fine and he's got a new resprite already

gilded citrus
idle dagger
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I do not think so

drowsy plank
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invoked stargod?

indigo yacht
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is that like

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deus

balmy folio
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still mad about that

idle dagger
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oh in other mods? I have no idea

drowsy plank
indigo yacht
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ohhh ok

balmy folio
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Can we add that in dude i really want it. I forgot its name. The like giant robot castle boss

indigo yacht
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can we have the 11 deus worms back that would save calamity

drowsy plank
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...andromeda?

balmy folio
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Yes

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im still so sad about that

indigo yacht
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play 7-4

drowsy plank
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got rid of would imply it was ever close to being done

balmy folio
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why did it even get scrapped

drowsy plank
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is this a joke

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it was completely untenable

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the thing was fucking massive and the AI was even harder to make

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so obviously it eventually just died

balmy folio
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But it was so cool

drowsy plank
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it was never done

balmy folio
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Just give it cave bat ai or something

idle dagger
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wh

balmy folio
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Actually just give all the bosses cave bat ai

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Mod fixed

remote maple
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Fucking cave bat

drowsy plank
idle dagger
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Oh yeah suggestions got sent this morning

gilded citrus
indigo yacht
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yharim tomorrow

prisma sedge
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Honestly, if it leaned more into being a living fortress that you have to fight through, then maybe its base AI wouldn't have to be anything too complex...but even then, I'm not sure how well that'd actually translate in-game

drowsy plank
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yharimrune tomorrow

balmy folio
indigo yacht
balmy folio
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The andromeda thing was such a shitshow

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community was actually in flames

idle dagger
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Those are some good suggestions to have gotten sent

drowsy plank
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what are you talking about

prisma sedge
drowsy plank
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did people even know about andromeda

gilded citrus
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Not me

whole tundra
balmy folio
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It was a big deal at the time

fickle rapids
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give it up for another invalid suggestion

drowsy plank
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i thought it was excluded to the realms of calamity scrapped content documents

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lmao

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hilarious

balmy folio
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Also holy shit these suggestions suck

fickle rapids
indigo yacht
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Remove the Martian Invasion and make it's drops obtainable via fishing

words

drowsy plank
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🔥

fickle rapids
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+2

remote maple
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As we should

balmy folio
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I mean you gotta feel a little bad for the guy. Not in like a sympathy way but in like a "damn holy shit i would actually have a mental breakdown if something like this happened to me."

indigo yacht
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i don't

balmy folio
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Like i was completely his own actions that lead to this but. Could you imagine losing a community youve built over how many years. Losing your main source of income. And losing your mod for one of the most popular games. Which just so happens to be the most popular mod

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Like damn that must suck.

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You feel bad in the same way you feel bad for a guy getting kicked in the nuts after slapping a horse

indigo yacht
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it takes active effort to be hateful

balmy folio
indigo yacht
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anyways this is suggestion discussion enough of this

balmy folio
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ye

fickle rapids
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ts

indigo yacht
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hi silva i have a question

whole tundra
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?

indigo yacht
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do you know the details about virtuous radiance being the ml theme

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i was thinking about making a suggestion to make it the official one or whatever but I don't know much about vcmm

whole tundra
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You can't

indigo yacht
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oh

whole tundra
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If the creator of the track wants it to be a placeholder, then it is a placeholder

gilded citrus
indigo yacht
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ah

gilded citrus
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Fair

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Just letting you know thats an option

indigo yacht
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the calamity lore exists in my head in a very weird limbo of stuff pre rewrite and post rewrite and the only reason i still play this game is to do some dumb shit with overpowered items every couple weeks

gilded citrus
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Fair

balmy folio
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The calamity lore is absolute nonsense with just a lot of vague references to characters imo

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We only have a small amount of actual lore for characters.

gilded citrus
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I disagree

indigo yacht
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i dont think thats true but i just disclosed that i have minimal knowledge on cal lore

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storm weaver is dogs child!

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!!!!

whole tundra
gilded citrus
whole tundra
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We will educate you with l o r e

gilded citrus
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None of the sentinels have direct ties to dog anymore

balmy folio
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which is kind of wild because thats the entire reason they were made lmao

indigo yacht
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signus was a ninja that fought dog or something I actually dont remember that one much

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did yharim still fight dog

gilded citrus
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Signus may be higher in the distortion heirarchy then dog iirc

gilded citrus
indigo yacht
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because i have a very old half finished piece of fanart of that event

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🥀

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tragic

indigo yacht
gilded citrus
# gilded citrus Dont think so

Theres no reason for either to have fought, infact it was mutually beneficial if you ig ire dog attempting ti manipulate yharim

gilded citrus
fickle rapids
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i am wingmans strongest soldier

indigo yacht
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you are wingmans only soldier

fickle rapids
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make it feel better 2 use

gilded citrus
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I forgor what it does

fickle rapids
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this is why im it’s strongest soldier ^

indigo yacht
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i didnt deny that

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providence came from like
omg something ridiculous like a battle between angels and demons

fickle rapids
gilded citrus
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O cool

gilded citrus
indigo yacht
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🔥

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best way to write a story, never elaborate

fickle rapids
indigo yacht
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valkyrie ray is right there smh...

gilded citrus
gilded citrus
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Or planteras lore item with yharim just saying “congrats, you killed a plant” or something

indigo yacht
gilded citrus
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🔥

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-# theres some stuff id like for us to know less about in calamity lore

indigo yacht
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i dont care what old lore or new lore says yharim is my babygirl

gilded citrus
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Yharim got such a fucking glowup in new lore

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Convinces some irl people genociding people is good

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I am not kidding

indigo yacht
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😭 insane

whole tundra
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Tbf I kind of like Yharim's personality less in the current lore

indigo yacht
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the dangers of critique

whole tundra
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He used to be very strong minded

Nowadays he is mr propaganda incarnate by pretending to cry

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...like alot of times

gilded citrus
indigo yacht
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rookie numbers

gilded citrus
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Regular in the sense of mostly no unnatural boosts

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Bro nearly made gods extinct

indigo yacht
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tepid crown
gilded citrus
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Manipulating vulnerable children: aye okay
Mind controlling a single bee: hate

gilded citrus
tepid crown
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:3

indigo yacht
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it wouldn't be entirely fabricated to say part of the reason why i avoid lore is because I don't really want to hear about what yharim did

gilded citrus
echo leaf
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spawn of friendship

tepid crown
indigo yacht
tepid crown
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fixing yharim by going back in time, prevent him from meeting yharon and kill the evil gods who tried to force him to ascend and then give therapy

gilded citrus
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Yeah fair
||thatd be shaken if you found out how fucked up they are||

balmy folio
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dude i remember like 5 years ago huge argument happened over whether or not yharim xeroc and such were evilk

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and i was all like "one of the dudes has killed like billions and causes super wars" and everyone was like NUH UH

gilded citrus
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Nowadays people just go

Yeah yharims evil

indigo yacht
gilded citrus
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The guy doesnt see their actions as bad

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-# ||and will die in under a decade from being 130ish||

indigo yacht
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cant wait for the yharim boss fight to be us vs a hospital bed

tardy geyser
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I agree with yharim that killing dragons to become gods is wrong, but like the lengths he went to was too far

gilded citrus
covert zealot
echo leaf
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Done

indigo yacht
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@done

gritty acorn
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whats better, ice shack or main planetoid

crude geode
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Ice shack

errant wren
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i feel like neither of those make particular sense, but ice shack makes more

vestal crater
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I do want more ways of getting fishing bait easily

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But wouldn’t like

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Forest shrine be a better way?

errant wren
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forest shrine i guess would make more sense

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i did think that

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i would've said that a small fishing hut structure with fishing stuff would be nice

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but that's too specific

vestal crater
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Yeah

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But it would be cool and more reasons to fish in early game

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Aka

gritty acorn
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i thought of that too

vestal crater
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The most op way of progression

gritty acorn
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although it would require searching

errant wren
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underground fishing hut near spawn to inform players of cave fishing clueless

gritty acorn
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we are in a world without a sulphurous sea/ocean shrine 🙏 🥺

vestal crater
vestal crater
errant wren
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neither of those would be particularly hard to find, though

vestal crater
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Yeah

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True

gritty acorn
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sulphurous sea can be hard to find

errant wren
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which is more or less the point

gritty acorn
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ocean yea its gonna be easy

vestal crater
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Fishing shrine could be like under the ocean somewhere

errant wren
vestal crater
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Or near spawn

vestal crater
gritty acorn
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prob

errant wren
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we're entertaining the structures too much

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but uhh

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yeah

vestal crater
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Structure blot

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Bloat

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🩵

errant wren
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decent sugg here

vestal crater
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Tho you can easily get it from living wood trees

errant wren
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those sometimes don't spawn

vestal crater
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True

errant wren
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i would know

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anyways

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i'd just change the ice shack part in the title to something like "an easily accessible and guaranteed spot"

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just to kind of generalize what it's asking for

vestal crater
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Yeah

fickle rapids
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weird suggestion but sure man

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at least its not invalid

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who fishes past eye of cthulu anyway thi

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tho

vestal crater
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Me

fickle rapids
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womp womp

vestal crater
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😨

covert zealot
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This is unrelated, but hows the update coming along? like in terms of things done vs things yet to do, i've been around enough here to know that release dates aint gonna be a thing ever (which is a good thing tbh)

havent really looked at what the new stuff added since...6 months ago? so surely i missed some cool stuff lol

eternal escarp
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you guys know worms arent the only critter with bait power right HDfailure
you can easily hunt grasshoppers, scorpions, larvas (if you have a graveyard) or get fireflies every few nights / ladybugs

frail fox
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You get scorpions if you’re evil

whole tundra
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You can also shimmer herb bags

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I don't really see the point of this suggestion as there's alot of already existing alternatives

eternal escarp
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worm cans are also surface chest loot, you get excessive bait from crates, frogs and buggys and grubs..
theres plenty i just couldnt bother listing every option

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to me the sugg is just to shortcut having to get bait so you can jumpstart fishing

humble scarab
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At this point it will be better to just get a whip

severe sparrow
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@drifting spear specific item suggestions aren't allowed by the suggestion rules

humble scarab
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And ye

drifting spear
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then whats the point

severe sparrow
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did you read the suggestions guideline?

drifting spear
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i did, must have glossed over the item part and only saw the rework part

humble scarab
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Now its much better suggestion

drifting spear
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now its a boring suggestion with no flavor but it abides by the rules

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but, i'll take it

humble scarab
gritty acorn
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worms for the win 🔥🔥🔥

eternal escarp
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wdym it sucks

gritty acorn
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i think its only 10 fishing power

eternal escarp
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fireflies are 25 if im not mistaken
also yeah thats like the point

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worms are rarer = more power

gritty acorn
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y bother with less fishing power tho

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fishing is alrdy boring

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it would be better if u can get higher fishing power early on

eternal escarp
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trust me that 10% fishing power difference doesnt matter as much as you think anyway

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and also because, it is the point that more common bait has less power

gritty acorn
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u can make enchnated nightcrawlers

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its gonna be more than 10%

eternal escarp
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if you just want to be fed worms for bait then whats the point in bait at all just make the merchant sell Masterbait from preboss

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(not something that should happen)

gritty acorn
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ofc hshfgf

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but like

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its not infinite nightcrawlers

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its enough for u to start properly

eternal escarp
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which is what any other bait is

gritty acorn
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ye but its a nice early boost

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anything else is slow

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like i hunt for like 10 mediocre baits

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and they run out because i keep getting carps

eternal escarp
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do you also have no fishing equipment at all

gritty acorn
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early game no

eternal escarp
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define early game because iirc calamity feeds you fishing gear like its bread HDfailure

gritty acorn
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pre eoc

distant gyro
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dont you just break rocks to get worms

eternal escarp
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you do

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and any other method of getting bait

dense frost
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🪱

gritty acorn
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i didnt want to mention this

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hshdhfh

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but like i was aware that breaking rocks help

distant gyro
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or whatever creatures in the jungle theres tmtc

eternal escarp
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like sure sugg is technically valid but i think this is just

gritty acorn
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but like

eternal escarp
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shortcutting how fishing works

gritty acorn
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its gonna have the same function as herb bag

whole tundra
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Worms spawn when...
in the underground at any time
on the surface while it rains
when grass plants are destroyed
when specific surface ambient tiles are destroyed

Cans of Worms be obtained by...
finding them in surface chests
shimmering Herb Bags

gritty acorn
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that are in planetoid

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like you can easily farm them

dense frost
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🪨 -> 🪱?

gritty acorn
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but there is still like 30 of em in planetoids

eternal escarp
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feels like you just want fishing to be easier rather than any real issue with worms being so rare or whatever

gritty acorn
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yes

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fishing sucks

humble scarab
gritty acorn
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u can

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fishing still suckss

eternal escarp
whole tundra
eternal escarp
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then too bad dont fish i think
youre not forced to unless im mistaken

gritty acorn
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u have to

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well kinda

whole tundra
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Dismissing those methods in your suggestion is basically misinformation

gritty acorn
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ok not really pre skeletron lmao

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fuck

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but thats the same with herb bags

distant gyro
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theres a thing coming thats most probably cracked for fishing and its early game but its cool unlike just giving you free stuff

whole tundra
eternal escarp
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i never defended planetoid herb bags

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i think those suck aswell

gritty acorn
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ij

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ik

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i like em personally

eternal escarp
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if i cared for suggestions id suggest removing those but that wouldnt pass publically anyway

gritty acorn
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ok wait let's say that uh

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u like the herb bags thing

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would my suggestion be better than mediocre

eternal escarp
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if i liked herb bags then that means i liked shortcutting my own gameplay so sure i guess

whole tundra
gritty acorn
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yay

eternal escarp
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but i dont i think thats just, cutting out gameplay

eternal escarp
gritty acorn
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personally id rather manually farm herbs than look for baits

eternal escarp
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its hard enough for a decent chunk of the playerbase to acknowledge terraria isnt a boss rush game, actively suggesting removing "heres your gameplay skip" wouldnt pass

indigo yacht
gritty acorn
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no i agree with u terraria isnt supposed to be a boss rush

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thats y im against qol

eternal escarp
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i wasnt referring to you specifically i dont mean to throw shade

gritty acorn
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no ik ik

tepid crown
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wat if the herb bags were placed inthe ice lab?its harder to find and would make logical sense

gritty acorn
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only qol i use is recipe browser

indigo yacht
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let's not forget that herb bags can be shimmered into cans of worms

gritty acorn
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i mean

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fuck

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good point

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but still haha

whole tundra
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@steel zephyr No.

eternal escarp
indigo yacht
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@steel zephyr it's already being removed

gritty acorn
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i like the herb platforms tho

severe sparrow
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@steel zephyr getting removed. Also, you didn't format the suggestion right.

eternal escarp
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its being entirely redone yeah

gritty acorn
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thye shouldnt remove these

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they are convenient

humble scarab
eternal escarp
tepid crown
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alcohols arent being removed anyway

gritty acorn
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like its not locked post eoc

eternal escarp
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i think instead of just gifting the platforms cal should just make them all sold together as you get the dryad

severe sparrow
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They are already renaming and respriting Fabsol's dev weapons and giving them to different people (Lucille and Ozzatron)

eternal escarp
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i will agree that the vanilla way is a bit janky

severe sparrow
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they also renamed Fabsol's Vodka to Purple Haze

indigo yacht
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@drifting spear sorry if you already said this, do you have permission from the donor? piggy is a donor npc, after all

eternal escarp
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but id still rather them be a dryad boon rather than just dumped on me

gritty acorn
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they should make it so the dryad gets different spawn conditions

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so its not post eoc

eternal escarp
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dryad spawns after any boss

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(that isnt KS)

gritty acorn
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id like it preboss

severe sparrow
gritty acorn
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i overprepare for bosses

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kinda

eternal escarp
gritty acorn
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i dont get wrath and rage atp

eternal escarp
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wanting dryad to be pre-boss just so you can further overprepare is missing the point i think HDfailure

severe sparrow
eternal escarp
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of the roughly 7 available preHM

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(and feasably expected, AS doesnt count)

gritty acorn
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WAIT

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hear me out

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new suggestion

steel zephyr
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ok i apologize sorry im really tired i apologize i shouldnt have brought that up

gritty acorn
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stationary buffs

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permanent

steel zephyr
#

i wasnt thinking

gritty acorn
#

even after death

eternal escarp
eternal escarp
#

goblin army lock

severe sparrow
#

Goblin Army is preboss

eternal escarp
#

whatever you get my point

gritty acorn
#

like uh

eternal escarp
#

tiers arent JUST bosses guys.,..,..,m.

gritty acorn
#

sharpening thing

severe sparrow
gritty acorn
#

magic orb

eternal escarp
#

i think thats a bit pointless and also fargos mutant just does that iirc

gritty acorn
#

yee but

#

qol

eternal escarp
#

you can just use it and turn off the features you dont want from it

gritty acorn
#

🤮

severe sparrow
#

(Magic Storage)

gritty acorn
#

thats qol tho i want my qol to be fed to me

eternal escarp
#

well you cant be against QoL and also actively suggest QoL thats a bit paradoxical

gritty acorn
#

im not actually against qol idk why im shitting on it

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lmao

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ive done 1 playthrough without qol and now im shitting on it hdhhd

tepid crown
#

because qol is not made equally

gritty acorn
#

some qol are good tho ye

eternal escarp
#

qol is whatever you deem it to be

#

its a single player game after all

gritty acorn
#

i like fargos mutant and magic storage

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but thats all

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rn i dont use em

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but i used to

eternal escarp
#

but suggesting QoL directly into calamity means everyone will have that as just the base package

steel zephyr
gritty acorn
#

yee

drifting spear
#

the thing with fishing is it's pretty sustainable as long as you have ok luck on crates

gritty acorn
#

im still reading chat imma just go eat rq

eternal escarp
#

either way

indigo yacht
#

why the mechanic's shed, anyways

eternal escarp
#

your sugg is technically valid blah blah i just think its very pointless considering how easy bait is to get anyways

indigo yacht
#

that seems extremely random

indigo yacht
errant wren
#

ok that part i did tell them to change

drowsy plank
#

i think

indigo yacht
#

what

eternal escarp
#

i think in reference to the sugg

#

not why it exists at all HDfailure

indigo yacht
#

oh yeah

drowsy plank
#

oh lo

errant wren
#

lol

#

cog moment

distant gyro
#

oopsies

eternal escarp
distant gyro
#

uhm

eternal escarp
#

thats enough bait for a playthrough

distant gyro
#

idk i think fishing is in a good spot right now

indigo yacht
errant wren
#

but yeah i did suggest that that title be altered to just be generalized

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or whatever idk

indigo yacht
#

just like 20 at a time and then they respawn after fifteen seconds 😭

errant wren
#

i just woke up

distant gyro
indigo yacht
#

i always carry a bugnet with me

eternal escarp
#

the only reason i dont do that is i like to conserve the nature of the world like a freak HDfailure

#

but yeah its a very easy way to get worms

distant gyro
#

laaame

eternal escarp
#

😭

distant gyro
#

utterly demolish your worlds

#

make your mark

errant wren
#

i personally just agree with the sugg since the can(s) wouldn't be something you actively seek out and wouldn't really be harmful

eternal escarp
#

my mark will be made with 2 rows of platforms

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every qol "wouldnt really be harmful"

distant gyro
#

to be fair thats more hideous

errant wren
#

like they'd be there and a small boost if you do come across it

#

like a worse shrine

indigo yacht
#

they're already in forest chests

eternal escarp
#

that boost isnt needed

indigo yacht
#

i genuinely don't see the point

eternal escarp
#

theres already enough boostage

eternal escarp
errant wren
#

i mean yeah obviously it's fishing

drowsy plank
#

it's very funny to me using ladybugs for fishing lowers ur luck but making potions out of them is fine

eternal escarp
#

can people stop villainising fishing ongod

drowsy plank
#

no

#

never

distant gyro
#

real and true

drowsy plank
#

they will do it until terraria 3

gritty acorn
#

duality

errant wren
#

as an avid terraria fisher, fishing is my blessing and curse

indigo yacht
#

i don't understand the fishing hate like it could absolutely be better but like it's not terrible

frail mantle
#

fish fear me, women fear me, men turn their eyes away from my gaze, no beast dares make a sound in my presence, i am alone on this barren earth

indigo yacht
eternal escarp
#

you dont get it i have to STAND STILL for like 15 MINUTES

drowsy plank
#

fishing isnt killing things so it is bad

indigo yacht
#

💔

distant gyro
#

but blood moons!!

errant wren
#

die

eternal escarp
#

i love blood moon fishing

distant gyro
#

you get to do both!!

errant wren
#

i wanted to tell that joke

#

frick you altix

distant gyro
#

meow

eternal escarp
#

uh oh, bad word!

errant wren
gritty acorn
frail fox
gritty acorn
#

i hate blood moon fishing

#

zen potions dont do shit

errant wren
eternal escarp
gritty acorn
#

i can

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incorrect buzzer

#

hdhfhf

#

im joking obv hahahfbf

eternal escarp
#

smart people just box themselves in

distant gyro
#

i think zen potions got slightly buffed

gritty acorn
#

i box myself too

distant gyro
#

ihmhm

gritty acorn
#

but them wraiths

indigo yacht
#

the nefarious "slight elevation":

eternal escarp
#

since when do wraiths spawn prehm

gritty acorn
#

(good idea)

#

im talking post wof rn

distant gyro
gritty acorn
#

pre hm ye its not so bad

errant wren
#

the ever infamous summoner class

gritty acorn
#

the nefarious uhh

#

umm uh

#

thorns potion idk

#

lmao

indigo yacht
gritty acorn
#

wait

#

i have a suggestion

#

make maggot zombies have a chance to drop a bloody tear

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so like if u cant get a blood moon to spawn u can get one easily with a graveyard

half imp
#

We

gritty acorn
#

wii

half imp
#

Maggot Zombies drop blood orbs

gritty acorn
#

waht

#

wait huh

#

sec

half imp
#

And Bride and Groom drop bloody tear (this one's vanilla)

#

(they spawn in graveyard)

gritty acorn
#

ye

#

wtf i didnt know abt the maggot zombie one

#

i remember killing bunch of shit in a graveyard for a whole night

#

using zerg potion yet i got like 2 blood orbs

indigo yacht
#

I'd prefer eoc just drops a bloody tear if you haven't had a blood moon yet or something

#

idk

errant wren
#

eoc drops 10-20 blood orbs

#

i also don't know

vestal crater
#

uhhh should i suggest that they state that caribbean rum says it gives flight or stop saying it cuz it says it gives so in the buff tooltip but not anywhere else and like they seem to be reworking the alcohols so it jsut seems to be futile!!

indigo yacht
#

?

#

oh

#

it doesn't give any flight time

vestal crater
#

yea

#

and it says it does

indigo yacht
#

if it says it does in the tooltip that's an oversight

#

not a suggestion

vestal crater
#

so where would i take that to?

indigo yacht
vestal crater
#

oh ok thank you

distant gyro
#

i think thats dealt with

#

already

#

as soon as it was found out

#

because i found out

vestal crater
#

oh

#

ok

#

good

#

my autism can rest

distant gyro
#

unless im brainworms

#

and forgot

#

nope i think im good

gilded citrus
#

Aurism

errant wren
#

awesometasticism

indigo yacht
#

This suggestion could use some better wording

drowsy plank
#

@thorn dock i dont know what this means but this is just a specific rework suggestion

echo leaf
#

Toxic Heart is already a very healthy accessory imo

drowsy plank
#

if ur asking for items that make ur life regen negative im pretty sure they already exist too...

echo leaf
#

It doesn't need any changes whatsoever

#

The pulse itself is very strong, and the time between beats can be easily shortened by not using items that consistently boost regen like Regeneration Potion, Campfire, Heart Lantern, Honey, Grand Gelatin, Fairy Boots, etc

#

The Sickness debuff amplification is a bit unfortunate considering there are only three relevant Sickness debuffs at that stage, one of which cannot be consistently applied

#

But the strongest of them is already applied by the accessory itself and the weakest is still very strong and can be consistently applied via flasks

#

The recursive beats and health on beat kill effects make it extremely powerful outside of boss content and is the best use of the accessory imo, so buffing it will just make it completely stomp everything that isn't a boss even more than usual

tepid crown
#

alcohol

keen zodiac
#

i agree

indigo yacht
#

but the ending is probably an srs or sis or whatever the fuck

coral carbon
#

the pig suggestion should get in just from the beautiful writing alone

fleet grotto
#

@drifting spear fun but lame fact you can catch the piggies
with the piggy item you can sell for the same amount of gold it drops or craft it into bacon
so you can skip the 2k hp barrier and get one of the drops for free, whichever would be more important for you

#

unless this has been mentioned already

#

idk i didn't scroll up

dense frost
#

Bad piggies 😠

#

"To this, I say" 🔥

#

🖊

indigo yacht
#

i think i already mentioned this but idk if it got responded to - piggy is a donor item/npc so i believe you need their permission before you can make a suggestion about it

#

because this looks intentional (summons count as homing weapons)

keen zodiac
#

@kind laurel how would you suggest they do that

kind laurel
#

“As of now, I am in no shape for war. Your journey is over.” or smth

indigo yacht
#

that would probably just confuse everyone else

#

"wait are they no longer planning to add yharim?"

drifting spear
drifting spear
indigo yacht
#

😭?

#

to make a suggestion about donor items you need the donor's permission

#

unless that changed

tepid crown
#

@haughty escarp already planned

indigo yacht
#

good suggestion though

tepid crown
#

brimmy is having a dress like attire

haughty escarp
tepid crown
#

u can just go to spoiler talk and look at pins for the future content doc

haughty escarp
#

okay i looked at the redesigns theyre still pretty voluptuous all things considered

#

thats why i made the suggestion

drifting spear
crude geode
#

under "other suggestion rules"

novel belfry
#

new sugg tl;dr we must de-thicc the elementals we dont have a gooner as our lead dev anymore

#

(at least from what i can tell of the Brimstone Elemental's upcoming redesign, she'll look far more tasteful than... what she is today)

drifting spear
#

ok well ill delete it then but i will say that rule is dumb

crude geode
#

not really. if someone paid for something to be in the mod, they should realistically have some say about changes to it

#

which is why dono weapons are so dangerous to the mod lmao

drifting spear
#

they should absolutely have say in it, that doesnt mean other people shouldnt as wellconsidering its in the game everyone plays

#

but its whatever, not my rules

#

not gonna start an argument over some hogs

echo leaf
#

I also totally agree with your suggestion

#

Maybe a dev could contact the donor and ask them about it?

crude geode
#

that is indeed what should probably happen

haughty escarp
drifting spear
#

idk i dont think things being "sexy" is inherently a bad thing

echo leaf
#

I do believe Brimmy had a resprite in the works

crude geode
#

that was indeed brought up

echo leaf
#

I only remember it vaguely and it was a looong time ago...

drifting spear
#

it was a very nice resprite if it ever makes it

echo leaf
#

Ah, well

drifting spear
#

imo

haughty escarp
#

I totally get it

#

Most of this is just my bias

echo leaf
#

I think a middle ground is possible

drifting spear
#

yeah and thats totally fair

haughty escarp
#

I don’t really enjoy that sort of “sexy” content in my games, it’s purely my viewpoint

crude geode
#

I think waiting for the redesigned sprite is the best option

echo leaf
#

FFS

#

a

crude geode
#

considering it's still brought up as happening in the future content doc, so unless something has recently changed it will eventually get changed to something else

crude geode
#

you don't know the final product, just early sprites

#

hell it could be scrapped and be completely redone

#

(yharon moment, iirc)

haughty escarp
#

That would be nice yes…

#

Good point

#

I think the biggest proof is how that big Calamity reimagining mod just completely removed those bits from the (potential) elemental designs outright

#

Here it is from Calamity Fables

#

Notice the very not boobs as apposed to the potential resprite we have right now

gritty acorn
#

new suggestion

#

3 stars or 0 stars

tepid crown
#

one problem i immediately thought of is how this will affect crossmodding

crude geode
#

you could just ask that they shimmer between their drops

#

also yeah crossmodding is a problem

gritty acorn
#

for biome mimics?

#

i mean it depends on how its coded

#

it could grab the mimic drops and determine their drop orders from that

indigo yacht
crude geode
#

shimmer is truly the solution to every terraria problem

gritty acorn
indigo yacht
#

drop cycling is unintuitive and would be annoying if you needed the last of the 4 items and didn't have any souls

#

sure the current system can be painful but it can also be very nice on occasion

gritty acorn
#

ye but having to kill 1 biome mimic is kind of ruining the point of biome mimics having an rng system

crude geode
#

rng systems are stupid

#

there's a reason goblin tinkerer was reworked

gritty acorn
#

thats why i think it should work on a cycle

indigo yacht
#

...

gritty acorn
indigo yacht
#

that's also removing the rng system

#

except completely

gritty acorn
#

no it isnt

#

u can make the cycle random

indigo yacht
#

instead of leaving it as a formality and adding an extra step

gritty acorn
#

theres still a chance of u getting it first try

#

but u can also get it as a last drop

indigo yacht
#

ok I'm very confused now

gritty acorn
#

my suggestion is

#

make it so biome mimics drop loot in a cycle

#

and make it so that cycle's order is random on world creation

indigo yacht
#

imo that's overengineered and unintuitive

gritty acorn
#

not so bad to code

crude geode
#

shimmer cycles are established by terraria as a thing already, this would be completely out of nowhere

indigo yacht
#

^

#

you could even just do like

gritty acorn
#

shimmer cycles completely delete the rng aspect of mimics

indigo yacht
#

good

gritty acorn
#

not good

indigo yacht
gritty acorn
#

completely deleting rng is bad

#

im fine with deleting rng aspect on certain bosses like wall of flesh tho

indigo yacht
#

it's removing a single instance of rng with a heavy price tag (15 souls of whatever + a "miniboss") attached

gritty acorn
#

idk, completely removing rng from that is kinda ehh

#

dont like it

#

like the point of mimics is for u to gamble

#

my suggestion makes it so its still a gamble

crude geode
#

no?????

indigo yacht
#

what

gritty acorn
#

but not like 20 mimics gamble

#

yes???

#

they wouldnt have made it so rng based if it wasnt a gamble

golden sonnet
#

I personally prefer having it not give a drop again until it has given every other drop over making any item any other item

gritty acorn
#

yes

#

(thats my suggestion kinda hehe)

crude geode
#

I'd rather have something pre-established be used than something out of nowhere

golden sonnet
#

How would that be out of nowhere

drifting spear
#

dupe protection as a mechanic is something that sits kinda iffy with me - i think implemented in some ways is good and other ways is lame

crude geode
#

if there was something like this already a part of things like minibosses or bosses, then it would make some sense. but if it's something only for biome mimics, I don't see it making intuitive sense

drifting spear
#

when it's just straight up "you won't get a dupe until you get the whole drop table" is kinda lame but making it so unobtained drops are more common is fine

indigo yacht
#

yeah if this was a thing for like, all minibosses then I'd be less critical

drifting spear
#

ESPECIALLY considering theres some items you do want more than one of

gritty acorn
#

well i got another suggestion ig

#

make it so biome mimics drop double loot, with the 2 items dropped being different

indigo yacht
orchid briar
#

Well, but if it's guaranteed you'll get them before the loot table repeats, then again you'll never go over odds

#

So it's still better

drifting spear
#

i don't think i agree with that

glass arch
#

in most cases yeah but sometimes you have everything that drops from a boss with a 25% rate, if the boss has more than 4 drops then you'll be able to be over odds for at least one

orchid briar
#

If the loot table doesn't repeat until you get every item, then there isn't a way for you to be over odds

indigo yacht
#

i should probably mention that I'm not necessarily against this suggestion being implemented i just think it's one of the worse ways you could go about solving the "fuck you" rng of biome mimics

crude geode
#

^^^^

crude geode
glass arch
crude geode
#

most people don't want every item from a drop table

glass arch
#

but just because a boss has 5 drops doesnt mean every drop has a 20% chance to drop

crude geode
#

also that yes

glass arch
#

like look at pbg with eleven

#

each chance isnt a 1/11 its a 1/4 or a 1/3

#

meaning there it is possible to go over odds even with dupe protection

indigo yacht
#

300 million stars

balmy folio
dense locust
#

Fridge gif

novel belfry
#

@drowsy plank

fleet grotto
crude geode
#

is there any reason the flesh of infidelity has that name

tepid crown
#

second definition probably

severe sparrow
#

@balmy folio I really like this suggestion tbh

severe sparrow
#

Especially the Ark of the Cosmos.
It really should make a powerful sound, as if space and time are being rended apart.

crude geode
#

cuz I think no matter what, it doesn't really match up?

#

there's no real religions in terraria/calamity and I think the summon item is very loyal to the player

tepid crown
tardy geyser
#

Definition 1b kind of works if its being disloyal to the crimson ig

crude geode
#

every summon related to an area would fall under the definition then, lmao

drowsy plank
#

flesh of infidelity
drops from the flesh of a slain god

#

i dont really see the issue here

keen zodiac
#

the infidelity part

small bramble
#

flesh of cheating on your wife

quaint condor
#

What would you recommend it be called? Flesh of atheism?

indigo yacht
#

hear me out

crude geode
#

Flesh of Violence or smth, up to the devs

#

Just not something with the primary definition of “cheating on your wife”

grizzled dome
#

Maybe something involving "blasphemous", "profane" (except that word's already being used elsewhere), "impious", "base" (as in, not elevated or holy), or "desecrated"?

crude geode
#

^

#

There’s plenty of other words to describe “not holy”

tardy geyser
#

I think the name is somewhat fitting. Could it be better? Yeah, I dont think its worth a suggestion though 🤷

glass arch
#

stick of fuck you

tardy geyser
#

sedintionous sausage

olive saddle
#

this weapon doesnt deserve to be called flesh of infidelty. infidelity is unforgettable. this thing is so forgettable i only remembered it existed because of this suggestion

grizzled dome
#

I think it's the kind of suggestion where it's neither so obvious nor so incorrect that it ought to be excluded from voting, and we can let the people decide.

#

I have no strong opinions either way.

novel belfry
#

Flesh of Infidelity sounds like a near-endgame accessory tbh

olive saddle
#

accessory? the fuck? no it dont? whats the accessory gonna do? the power of infidelity empowers me or soemthing? is that why people cheat?

novel belfry
#

The act of being unfaithful to the Gods.

olive saddle
#

if only we were faithful to begin with or something idk

novel belfry
#

Costume department always gets paid.

crude geode
#

The terrarian is anything but faithful to the gods

#

The flesh itself? Who knows

olive saddle
#

thatd be a really funny idea actually

#

the power of infidelity
equippable
does nothing

crude geode
#

LMAO

coral carbon
#

my take on the elementals suggestion is that there should be a middle-ground

#

I think for what the elementals are (and what elementals are depicted as in a lot of media) there should be some level of allure to their designs

#

but a reasonable amount

errant wren
#

make them buff and non-gender conforming

#

mod instantly saved

prisma sedge
#

I know it's a bit cliche, but I think it'd make the most amount of sense to focus that alure into Brimmy's design, and tone it down in the others

dense ravine
#

\

indigo yacht
kind sleet
#

if the elementals do get changed i do wish there will be a way to like swap back to they're current designs

indigo yacht
#

make your own mod

#

???

tepid crown
whole tundra
#

@balmy folio Aren't night time profaned guardians going to cease existing?

keen zodiac
#

yes

haughty escarp
balmy folio
#

fack

haughty escarp
#

And then then it barely is considering functional, I don’t even think all the sprites work on mine

#

There’s supposed to be an attacking animation for the Cloud Elemental but the way that retexture mods work makes that harder to do for projectiles

#

Now I do think the elemental designs are too much but that doesn’t mean there’s people who still want them

indigo yacht
#

yeah and they can make their own mod to reimplement them

#

if they're that dedicated to them

haughty escarp
#

Modding projectiles is needlessly complex

indigo yacht
#

what point are you trying to make

soft tulip
#

I'm not good at explaining in english currently so I will just:
screenshake when astral infection generates (see guide quote)

haughty escarp
#

Since that’s saying “you shouldn’t even try suggesting the game to change, you have to spend all this effort doing it all yourself”

tepid crown
gilded citrus
haughty escarp
#

Sure it’s rewarding but what if there was something in a game that you played that you didn’t want? Do you need to mod it yourself?

haughty escarp
#

Very simple

gilded citrus
#

I disagree that sprites deserve a config

glass arch
#

sprites dont need individual configs

errant wren
#

this point is kind of weak considering that suggestions here are for pointing out minor to moderate issues with the mod

gilded citrus
glass arch
#

also sprite replacement mods are like

errant wren
#

a resprite isn't really an issue

glass arch
#

you essentially just need the sprite you want to replace the current sprite with

tepid crown
#

@lethal bridge specific item suggestions arent allowed

errant wren
#

sis moment

severe sparrow
#

yeah

errant wren
#

there's been a lot of rule-breaking suggs as of late

severe sparrow
#

also, Shadowspec is reserved for purely donor items

errant wren
#

that too

severe sparrow
#

and donor items havent been added in a very long time

golden sonnet
#

Exclaimed for being shadowspec and SiS yeah

errant wren
#

hmmm

#

with [the individual] being gone from the mod...

#

i don't know

#

just an observation

glass arch
#

important thing to note

FABSOL IS GONE BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE RULES OUTLINED IN PINS ARE OUTDATED

errant wren
#

not really what i was getting at, but that is true

#

thank you john mage

glass arch
#

figured someone would ask that at some point

errant wren
#

maybe [the individual] being gone just made people engage more

#

eh whatever

#

more suggs being written means i can procrastinate more

#

even though i really shouldn't

tepid crown
#

i was thinking about a small message containing the rule docs in posting like this would help with this issue (just overall not even talking about recently)

#

i was gonna modmail about this but i was uhh

#

lazy

glass arch
#

message as in like

#

always at the bottom of the channel or

tepid crown
#

yes

errant wren
#

that's

#

interesting

#

would probably have to be short to stop people from thinking that their message got flagged or something

#

taking cal player reading skills into consideration

glass arch
#

unless the message does nothing but link the rules doc and say to read it before posting it would probably drown out quite a few suggestions

tepid crown
#

i literally said itd be a small message

#

💔 💔 💔 🫗 🫗

errant wren
#

i play cal idk how to read clueless

glass arch
errant wren
#

yeah exactly because

#

-# look this is small

tepid crown
#

💥

glass arch
#

its a relative descriptor and we dont know what its small in relation to

errant wren
lethal bridge
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Mb guys ✌️

indigo yacht
haughty escarp
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????

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Breaking the rules??????

indigo yacht
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yes

haughty escarp
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Where did I say this????

indigo yacht
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what

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you know what nevermind

gilded citrus
haughty escarp
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Okay I looked at it

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Suggestions is fine I didn’t realize there was a separate server for art huh

glass arch
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reversion suggestions are as a general rule disallowed

indigo yacht
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plus it's technically a suggestion for future content if it were to be made now

gilded citrus
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I wonder how many people will make suggestions to re add cirrus

boreal lichen
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361

haughty escarp
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Right this isn’t going against my suggestion

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But still making a mod is infinitely harder than suggesting a revert at least

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Also there is an art server but they don’t have suggestions up

gilded citrus
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Theres a sprite submissions

keen zodiac
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mist cloud goes hard

glass arch
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doze got a regular sprite replacement done in under 25 lines of code

indigo yacht
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this is a true suggestion

half imp
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clearly the solution to flesh of infidelity is to make it relevant to the name

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... by renaming it to Blood Clot Staff

drowsy plank
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they could just wait lmao

prisma sedge
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Also, it reopened I believe

drowsy plank
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oh cool