suggestions-discussion

[indigo yacht]

it's about the planetoid lab

i want to see if anyone can guess it before i finish wording it

[royal tapir]

Standardized Planter Box amounts

[dense frost]

Hang on

Are GFB suggestions allowed

Lemme double check

[indigo yacht]

i can't prove it but you totally cheated

[dense frost]

I'm guessing no

Yeah def not

[indigo yacht]

ill rewrite this to be more coherent later

[dense frost]

Rewrite what

The doc?

Meh

[indigo yacht]

my suggestion

[dense frost]

Okayy

[deep cape]

ugh

i have a good suggestion that probably wouldn't be too much work and would be a great addition but i don't wanna write it up/flesh it out...

specifically adding a new electric debuff or two to the arsenal weapons

[drowsy plank]

pretty sure there's already been some new electricity debuffs added so dw

[deep cape]

neat

[half imp]

debuffs have a lot of changes next patch

[dense frost]

Interesting

[half imp]

I think there is 3 new electric ones

so that each stage of the game can have something

[deep cape]

i feel like i always skip them so an exclusive debuff would give you reason to pick em

[half imp]

All debuff types should have an option at each stage of the game now I believe

or at least close to each stage

[dense frost]

Triple check, is this allowed?

[deep cape]

neat

still not as strong as the cursed knock and shock strats from xenoblade x but very powerful

[drowsy plank]

i dont know what that has to do with this but yeah

[severe sparrow]

are there going to be any more water type debuffs added?

[dense frost]

Just making sure

[drowsy plank]

yes

[severe sparrow]

good to know

there are only like 2 there rn

[drowsy plank]

atm i think we are just getting a third but

more distribution is fine rather than making 800 of them like fire debuffs

lmao

[half imp]

yeah

[drowsy plank]

this should be more than enough

i am curious tho, is this just one type of each debuff at each stage in the game, or is this true on a per class basis as well?

[half imp]

per class?

[drowsy plank]

yeah like

does ranger finally have poison weapons in preHardmode

sickness

whatever

[half imp]

Poison Dart:

[drowsy plank]

poison dart isn't real unless you're making something better than blowgun that uses darts

[half imp]

I want to do that so badly

in the meantime I can just buff blowgun...

[errant wren]

auric dart gun

[worthy lintel]

god slayer dartgun upgrade 🥺

[half imp]

please

[errant wren]

i win

hi guys

[half imp]

I feel imprisoned by not being able to make dart weapons

[drowsy plank]

this is true, but it still leaves the most important section, which is pre-Boss to pre-Skele (which is when you get witch doctor) without a dart gun that is better than fuckin blowpipe (which is dogshit)

the main reason is that rusty medallion has absolutely dogshit options in terms of things to synergize with

[half imp]

ok so I buff blowpipe too

[drowsy plank]

yeah i guess

[dense frost]

I barely use Blowpipe

[drowsy plank]

tfw wood chest item becomes boss viable

[half imp]

make blowpipe with Poison darts actually usable

[errant wren]

i like blowpipe

[drowsy plank]

honestly maybe the solution here is to buff poison dart damage??

[dense frost]

Actually, this is peak

[drowsy plank]

that way blowpipe is still dogshit with seeds

[half imp]

No I wanna buff blowgun specifically

[errant wren]

can seeds please be viable

[drowsy plank]

fair

[indigo yacht]

remove darts from the game and have the dart guns just shoot musket balls

[novel belfry]

@dense frost remove the text above the title, mainly because it might interfere with the sugg bot

[drowsy plank]

seeds should not be viable the same way wood sword should not be boss viable

[half imp]

That's it, Moab is keeping the wings

[novel belfry]

just letting you know

[dense frost]

Done

[indigo yacht]

NO

[half imp]

correct

so I should nerf seeds

[drowsy plank]

@dense frost this isn't allowed regardless of the GFB stipulation because it is future content

[frail fox]

I mean it is already

[errant wren]

make seeds viable in gfb

[dense frost]

Mb

[half imp]

Shhh

[drowsy plank]

the bigger issue with blowgun is that the conversion rate on poison darts is dogshit

[frail fox]

Gonna make evil-1 viable blowpipe

[drowsy plank]

id buff it to like 150-200 per craft tbh because getting stingers is slow

esp in early game where you'd want them to make blowpipe viable

finally the real rusty medallion synergy

[errant wren]

yeah

[half imp]

make tarragon throwing darts work as ammo for dart weapons

[drowsy plank]

is there some "no dart weapons" stipulation in dev rn or something lmfao

[dense frost]

Do I just wait it out until the suggestion is deleted or...

[errant wren]

rework dart-named items into ammo for dart weapons

[drowsy plank]

i will probably delete it because like i said, according to the rules, you cannot make suggestions pertaining to upcoming content

[half imp]

not explicitly but I would need some dang good reasoning to be able to get it done

specifically if it's past the point of existing darts

[errant wren]

go the didn't-read-the-rules method

[half imp]

I thought about making my dev item Shadowspec Darts

ngl

Make Dart Pistol boss rush viable

[errant wren]

"it would be funny"

[drowsy plank]

Ozz specifically removed a bunch of suggestion rules to allow people to make arguments for subclass runs as suggestion reasoning
i think the fact that there are a bunch of completely unutilized synergies because of a lack of support for darts as a weapon type is a really easy oversight from cal

[dense frost]

So once the update is out, can it be suggested?

[drowsy plank]

yeah

well as long as the resprite is in the update

[half imp]

I agree that lack of dart support is wild

[errant wren]

honestly it would just be neat if there was like one dart weapon post-ml for no reason

[dense frost]

Luminite darts or smth

[drowsy plank]

mosty stuff like, like i said earlier, rusty medallion's irradiated debuff posion effectiveness synergy going basically completely unused, darts ammo have some of the most unique effects in the game for a whopping four weapons, etc.

[errant wren]

that's ammo

[drowsy plank]

if flamethrowers can get like 50 weapons in cal then i dont see any reason darts couldnt either

[dense frost]

[half imp]

Dart ammo dying and gel ammo living is

why

[drowsy plank]

YEAH

[tardy geyser]

charged dart blaster

[dense frost]

Gel ammo lives?

I didn't know that

[errant wren]

gel ammo when it

[half imp]

There are more sand guns added by cal then dart weapons...

[drowsy plank]

we get 50 flamethrowers but 0 dart weapons despite darts have like 5 variants and gel being impossible to work with at all

[frail fox]

I mean I can understand not wanting another melee situation with 50 subclasses

[half imp]

The current state of dart as it looks to me is I would need a good excuse to get a dart weapon in

[golden sonnet]

make it your dev weapon

[errant wren]

all dart weapons have just been shoot, though

[half imp]

i mean

It's true that I could just have a dart dev weapon

and eternal exchange

[frail fox]

All 1

[errant wren]

shadowspec tier dart weapon

[half imp]

Dev items don't have to be shadowspec

[errant wren]

i forget that

[half imp]

it would be funny if I made a dart dev weapon and then like 3 ammos just for it

[errant wren]

the world is dying for a new dart weapon

[frail fox]

2 flare weapons is funny

[half imp]

true

[dense frost]

I will not rest until the day comes

[half imp]

why are there more flare weapons than dart weapons...

[errant wren]

WAIT

[half imp]

Do the new flare weapons even support cursed flares

[dense frost]

Isn't it just b l o w p I p e?

[half imp]

idk if they force convert or not

[drowsy plank]

i think the fact the dart discussion comes up could be a very solid basis for it, and like i mentioned earlier, the fact that there are like zero solid, interesting prehardmode dart weapons (and again rusty), and there are ZERO dart weapons whatsoever post-ML. a very easy two weapons

[frail fox]

Think this was asked before

[errant wren]

candy corn weapons

[drowsy plank]

i mean in current update they do? they don't convert

[half imp]

Blowpipe
Blowgun
Dart Rifle
Dart Pistol

[half imp]

ok cool

[drowsy plank]

they just have extra projectiles alongside the flares

[dense frost]

Okay

Thanks for this information

[drowsy plank]

they've always been like that

[frail fox]

Astral mimic dart blaster

[drowsy plank]

🙏 frosty flare and tarragon throwing dart will simply become ranged ammos next update please

[frail fox]

Clearly

[half imp]

honestly

[dense frost]

King slime GBF peak

[half imp]

Tenebris would make sense to make a dart out of

[errant wren]

man i really need to play cal again

[dense frost]

Same

[half imp]

It just fits with the current dart theme

[frail fox]

Tenebris like

[dense frost]

I miss my laptop running at 5fps

[frail fox]

The material that died or

[half imp]

no wait

Lumenyl

[errant wren]

i miss tenebris

[half imp]

I don't

[frail fox]

Stratus dart blaster

[tardy geyser]

lumenyl darts 🔥

[errant wren]

i was so confused when it was gone

[dense frost]

[half imp]

corruption, crimson, jungle, hallow, purity all have dart ammos

[frail fox]

Profaned biome

[errant wren]

distortion

[half imp]

Crag Dart could be fire

literally

[dense frost]

Lmao

[frail fox]

Eternal Exchange dart

[errant wren]

mods, 🔥 react this message

[tardy geyser]

Astral blaster could be reworked into a dart gun?

[half imp]

I had the thought

ngl

[frail fox]

Oh my god

Welcome back Charged Dart Blaster

[half imp]

:)

[tardy geyser]

so true!

[half imp]

is it just me or would yharon soul fragments be a great dart material

[errant wren]

the precedent of 1 dart per biome is pretty solid evidence...

[indigo yacht]

yharon dart

[tardy geyser]

just like dark souls...

[frail fox]

Aerie dart

[half imp]

I hope they replace Daedalus stormbow with Daedalus stormdartgun

[drowsy plank]

if we add more darts for each biome we'd obviously need more weapons to go along with them

[dense frost]

Every time it hits an enemy or block it makes a little roar sound

[indigo yacht]

just make the darts insanely powerful so you can use dart rifle for exos

[errant wren]

shadowspec darts

[dense frost]

"RAAAAAA"

[tardy geyser]

feather darts?

[errant wren]

i feel like we're treading into thorium territory with that

not sure why

[half imp]

If we wanted biome darts

abyss dart could be reaper tooth

[errant wren]

[half imp]

crag bloodstone & havoc

sunken sea would be prism shards duh

[novel belfry]

I can’t believe a few years back seeing someone go “Darts deserve to die” and now we’re talking about what darts to add now

[half imp]

oh don't get it confused I don't expect any of these to be added

[indigo yacht]

wait hear me out

[errant wren]

we need to make this guy a dev

[half imp]

I want more darts but I'm not in charge of the direction of the mod as a whole

[tardy geyser]

were just throwing darts at the wall and seeing what sticks

[half imp]

yup

[indigo yacht]

nevermind i forgot

[half imp]

lol

[indigo yacht]

warbanner of the sun darts

1 to 1 conversion ratio

[errant wren]

i am actually on a bridge right now

[half imp]

Darts of the Righteous

Providence spear attack looks awfully like darts...

[errant wren]

and now i'm not

[crude geode]

They do

[errant wren]

everything looks like a dart if you make it pointy enough

[indigo yacht]

insert generic comment about shortswords

[errant wren]

thank you elsi, we should turn shortswords into darts‼️

[indigo yacht]

your welcome

[drowsy plank]

i dont even remember this convo tbh

[crude geode]

There’s a convo about every single aspect of terraria, it’s fine to not remember all of them

[errant wren]

why are we talking about darts again?

[indigo yacht]

rod of harmony should be preboss

[half imp]

my thought would be something like

Lumenyl - Abyss, post levi
Bloodstone - Crags, post provi
Astral bar - Astral, pre-ML
acid rain t3 - sulphur sea, post polter

[drowsy plank]

real

[half imp]

if I was to spread darts around the game

[drowsy plank]

darts cool

[errant wren]

this is so true cog

[tardy geyser]

This is it I think @errant wren

[errant wren]

i see

[indigo yacht]

lumenyl ammunition is kind of cool though

[errant wren]

thank you spectuniac

[indigo yacht]

like a lumenyl bullet or arrow or something

[errant wren]

a dart

[indigo yacht]

lumenyl spiky ball

[novel belfry]

it’s hard for me to forget stuff from #suggestions-discussion for some reason

[drowsy plank]

fair enough i was just curious what the reasoning was

[half imp]

Adding new dart ammo is hard though

[indigo yacht]

just consider it

[half imp]

It's gotta be wacky and cool

[errant wren]

oh so you remember the guy who wanted to resprite elementals because of those

that was a wild day

[crude geode]

God

[drowsy plank]

dw we got 5000 ideasguys to handle that part

[indigo yacht]

is that what I'm thinking of

[errant wren]

idk it might be

[errant wren]

i am one of them :D

[novel belfry]

the guy who didn’t want his mom to see brimmy

[errant wren]

[half imp]

based ngl

[errant wren]

"mom it was a virus!" moment

[crude geode]

There was also the person who wanted fabsol’s dialogue toned down

[errant wren]

i feel like we're getting super off topic

[drowsy plank]

honestly just thinking about a crags dart i already thought about how it would be interesting if it shot a slow moving brimstone dart a la calamitas but if you shot the projectile with more of itself it would get bigger until it reached a max size where it turned into a fast moving homing projectiles

[crude geode]

This chat? Never…

at the least we’re discussing past suggestions

[drowsy plank]

that way you kind have to play defend the castle by making sure the projectile doesnt hit anything else for the most damage

[errant wren]

feels like a marksman ammo scenario almost

not exactly one

but somewhat

[half imp]

ok that would be fun, but also if the dart is slow how does more of itself hit itself

or well

no matter the speed how does more of itself hit itself

[indigo yacht]

it starts fast then slows down I guess

so you can just fly closer to the slow projectile and shoot it?

or just add a right click

[drowsy plank]

honestly the more i thought about the idea the more i realized it would prolly be better for a rightclick-leftclick weapon, but i still think it was neat enough to throw out there

[tardy geyser]

Maybe they could be made with scorched bone?

[hollow shell]

(this sugg is invalid not because of anything GFB related but just cuz it's future content)

[errant wren]

hi rover

i think that was said

[indigo yacht]

@pallid pasture your suggestion has improper formatting and largely lacks reasoning, I would recommend reading the suggestions guide document in the channel description/pins

[deep cape]

It’d be funny to take the Lobo approach and just replace all the swears with nonsense words

But it’s not necessary at all

[keen zodiac]

lobbo?

hmmm

[deep cape]

A DC character

He does that

[keen zodiac]

yeah ik

i was making a ninjago reference based on your pfp

[lucid marsh]

Stupid idea I can't actually suggest:
Placeholder Xeroc boss fight that's just the sigil pasted over empress of light with no rainbow colors on the projectiles

[oblique birch]

Daylight Empress is like halfway there

[serene tendon]

There should just be a separate channel for joke suggestions imo

Would help some people get it out of their systems

[indigo yacht]

this is the channel for joke suggestions

peak

🙏

[whole tundra]

That's #suggestions-posting on April first

[indigo yacht]

the ending part of that suggestion is definitely bordering on an SIS yes but the rest seems fine enough

i swear i heard something about plans for the axe of regrowth but i almost never check #calamity-update-talk so idk

[vocal moth]

can we incorperate infernum dog into classic mode and make him one shot

us

[drowsy plank]

@spice valve could you just remove that last section about "axe of nature"

that's just an SiS tucked into a mostly normal suggestion

[golden sonnet]

Surely nothing will happen to this suggestion when it gets to voting

[drowsy plank]

🔥 🖊️

[indigo yacht]

(they fixed it i think)

[drowsy plank]

done

[echo leaf]

make power cell factories’ animations get a random offset so they never work in unison

[indigo yacht]

checks roles
can't see Developer role
thank god

[royal tapir]

Great idea

[indigo yacht]

NOOOOOOOO

[dense frost]

What is the compression emoji for btw

[indigo yacht]

wrong formatting

or too long

i think it's both

this one is missing a title
#suggestions-posting message

[dense frost]

Ah

[indigo yacht]

oh i forgot to reword this

oh well!

i genuinely do not care!

[dense frost]

What if

Anahita's projectiles she spawns around the player (like the 8 projectiles that spawn around the player and close in) create some sort of flash when spawning as (and I don't know why) I can see some people getting hit by them, simply because they didn't notice them

Idk if they do though

That's why I'm posting here

From what I see, they sort of just fade in

Wait

Is Death Mode Moon lord's (idk if this is the right mode or not) hp able to be fixed cause the hp bar filles back up when one of his eyes is killed

[grim tusk]

get a video, everything required in #1052330262492631071 and head to the bugs forum

[grim tusk]

this is something for #suggestions-posting , altho the telegraph is pretty clear already and they cant hit you the first frames when they spawn

[dense frost]

Ahh

Okay

Thanks

[frail fox]

Cit added telegraphs for Anahita projectiles next update

[grim tusk]

ah then that sugg is already done

[dense frost]

By video, do you mean ANY footage or do you mean footage from me?

[grim tusk]

from you, and make sure you follow #1052330262492631071 before recording

in this case: no addons

Infernum messes up shit

Souls dlc messes up shit too

Cal Overhaul

[dense frost]

Damn

I have no footage lmao

Fiddlesticks

Oh well

[hollow shell]

This suggestion is rather massive in scope

[grim tusk]

Too broad scope, very little reasoning which is subjective

[alpine dawn]

That's fair, idk if there's a feedback channel but I probably shoulda posted it there instead of the suggestion

[crude geode]

no feedback channel really

[hollow shell]

Redesigning the Astral into its current state was such a huge undertaking it got a uhh numbered update
1.4
(Calamity's 1.4, not Journey's End.)

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-posting is the feedback channel

[grim tusk]

And its being redesigned a bunch (mostly on hiatus now since 🐟 ) as we speak

[hollow shell]

(And if I may counter the subjectivity with more subjectivity ,
Terraria already has enough fleshy infection with the Corruption and Crimson
The Astral is alien in origin so its living beings don't look like what we would traditionally call "flesh". They're much more solid and perhaps rubbery looking, which is weird, which is the point)

[alpine dawn]

Countercounterpoint, almost all of the creatures we see are new and there are hardly any other creatures that resemble creatures we see on the surface - the closest you can get is the spider one

Ergo, it feels more like a robot beacon than an infection

I won't deny that it's subjective, I'm definitely not a fan

[prisma sedge]

Honestly, I think "weird and alien" can kind of just be difficult to sell in a game like Terraria, because there isn't a lot that'd feel out of place in its world

Especially with Calamity's additions

[hollow shell]

I suppose

You'd only be able to get truly alien I think by goin the Nameless Deity / Photoshop Flowey route
Abandoning pixel art, different art style

But that's not something you can apply to a whole biome without it looking really shit in all likelihood

And of course that's less "alien" and more "meta" because the change entails something outside of the context of the in-game setting, that being the game's presentation

So

🤷

[hollow shell]

also I was going to include a Rhythm Heaven reference in this message but it would have been really cringe

[echo leaf]

hey!

[keen zodiac]

i've never thought of any of the astral enemies as robots

besides aureus obviously

[prisma sedge]

It might be by extention of the bosses! Aureus is a robot, and Deus looks a decent amount like an armored/mech worm, so by association, all of the regular enemies that share similar design details feel like robots

[hollow shell]

(Deus is not meant to be robot at all afaik, not even metal armored.)

(yeah just quickly double-checked New Lore ™️,
No indication that the state Deus is in now is any different from the state it arrived in. Draedon certainly didn't touch it. And it's a natural god that got infected by a 'natural' (at least, not manufactured) space infection.)

[novel belfry]

maybe if you made them seem like living cosmic phenomenon or something. after all, the astral infection comes from dying stars, so...

[half imp]

make the astral infection just spawn Martians constantly

[hollow shell]

martians aren't from space they're from Mars

[half imp]

prove it

[novel belfry]

Mars is in space.

[tardy geyser]

nuh uh

[novel belfry]

notice that this applies only to mars and venus

this means that only the three latter terrestrial inner planets count as "not space"

[indigo yacht]

i think this suggestion forgot that things like exoskeletons and scales exist

a lot of the more metallic stuff could just be an exoskeleton

the segmented stuff is also commonly present in nature although scales might not be the best description for it

just because it looks unusual doesn't mean it can't be explained by unique natural phenomenon before needing to call it a robot

i have no idea how the infection factors in though

[slender creek]

i don't know what to say

i'm on the fence

i love the astral's aesthetic as is, but could it be better? probably

[glass arch]

the astrals aesthetic is not very good

but a suggestion to completely overhaul it is far too large in scope

• even if it wasnt it would be instantly stuck in Asset Hell™️

[prisma sedge]

And from the sound of it, they might already be doing that?

[indigo yacht]

calamity is overhauling literally everything ever at all times

so yes they are

[prisma sedge]

Gasp blasphemous...

[indigo yacht]

you're going into the torture chamber

[glass arch]

its hell torture

[indigo yacht]

(room where all they do is play party in the usa on a nonstop loop)

[glass arch]

now normally i would say that isnt so bad but

that song is so horrible and monotonous i think it could genuinely drive someone insane

also hi cog i see you lurking

[lucid marsh]

Actually those two don't officially count, they're only proposed values based on estimates

[novel belfry]

h

[tardy geyser]

its not canon, as the kids might say

[slender creek]

yes it is

its pretty, its unique, with great music to boot

just once i'd like to voice my personal opinion without someone going "heh, well actually..!"

i definitely think the biome should get some more attention

i don't know if it needs more content per se, but overall polish and improvements would go a long way

[dense frost]

😨

[crude geode]

@lilac roost server suggestions go in Staff Mail iirc

[lilac roost]

aight

wait where even is that?

[crude geode]

right below administrators, it's a user

[keen zodiac]

what even is "server tag"

[flint rose]

nahh this jump is fun and can give u alot of damage on ds if u tech it off platforms

i like it for stealth rogue

[grim tusk]

its Modmail, altho we are already considering this so a suggestion wont be necessary

[lilac roost]

Great! I'm rlly lookin forward to it

[keen zodiac]

yeah they should really make the sunken sea lab mandatory for [insert important phm thing] and have an actual way to know it exists other than "randomly stumble into it"

i also had an idea for progression locking the labs so you can't just bumrush all 5 instantly but i don't think devs are up for that

[whole tundra]

Yeah no as that ruins the non-linear point

And all of the labs loot is pretty well balanced for preboss anyway

[half imp]

what would locking labs even accomplish

[keen zodiac]

more evenly spread progression ig

hey i never said the idea was good

[half imp]

the labs already lock progression via schematic encryption...

[keen zodiac]

my thought process is that it would encourage exploring to find the labs at different points in progression (when x schematic is actually useful) but there's probably no way to implement something like that without ruining everything

[brittle panther]

Wait isn't SSO making it so that Astral Chunk requires the Planetoid schematic and Abombination will require Jungle schematic?

To tie those bosses in with Draedon's questline more

[indigo yacht]

idk if that's sso but those two summon items will be locked eventually, yeah

[keen zodiac]

it is sso

[tepid crown]

its in changelogs so yea it is in sso part 1

[indigo yacht]

epic

[keen zodiac]

it also says so in pbg section of future doc

[half imp]

make mech bosses require aerialite schematic:)

[drowsy plank]

true tho

[errant wren]

make wof require hell schematic

[keen zodiac]

make ds require sunken schematic

[prisma sedge]

I'm wondering by the way, what's a server tag?

Oh wait, nevermind, I read a bit further up

[half imp]

Lock Anvil behind a schematic

[prisma sedge]

654 - Removed Iron Anvil from the Merchant's shop ✅

[half imp]

I have actually made a mod that locked anvil post KS

kinda peak

[whole tundra]

That's evil

[half imp]

no it wasn't

because I rebalanced KS and Surface gear

i had to retier wand of frosting to post KS actually bc it was way too good

[dense frost]

What's is KS btw

[bitter hawk]

Hey guys I was wandering if something like th doom shield could come to the game, I like hard and rewarding mechanisms in games and in calamity that would get some cool clips, what do you think ? Maybe give it a parry with a cooldown to make it balnced, what do you think

[dense frost]

Balnced

[bitter hawk]

King slime i think

[dense frost]

The letters fit so yeah

KS does have unreasonably high contact damage

[keen zodiac]

huh??

the what

[dense frost]

Doom

[keen zodiac]

like

the game?

[dense frost]

I dunno

[fleet grotto]

there needs to be reasoning besides "cool"

what would it add to calamity that isn't already there?

[drowsy plank]

what is the doom shield what is this even a reference to

[drowsy plank]

we already have parries just use flame licked shell or profaned core whatever it's called

[umbral gazelle]

maybe doom: the dark ages thing?

the shield that work like uhhh stygian shield left click

i think it allow parry too

[drowsy plank]

seems like we're pretty covered in that department then

[indigo yacht]

you dont understand it has to be a doom reference

[bitter hawk]

I swear this guy has a problem with me, he don't talk much until he see's me

[drowsy plank]

1. not a guy
2. i talk here way more often then you
3. it's my job to correct people's suggestions. that is literally my entire purpose being here

so obviously i would respond to your messages

[indigo yacht]

cog is an abstract godlike entity

[drowsy plank]

that's true

[royal tapir]

shrimp

[bitter hawk]

But my suggestion is valid,we don't have a full parry shield that retracts enemy hits or projectiles so "cool" was just a form of speech, I want to add more variation to melee class similar to how doom the dark ages did with the combat (the whole stand on groud thing)

And its good to argue, just with a reason

[drowsy plank]

it isn't valid and we do have a parry? i just tried to point that out to you

also that second idea about changing melee combat or whatever is literally one the explict examples of what not to do

[lavish condor]

sergeant's united shield and brand of the inferno have parries if you want melee class parries

[drowsy plank]

and stygian shield as someone mentioned earlier

[indigo yacht]

ram dash

[drowsy plank]

and for non-melee specific items we have flame-licked and profaned core

[lavish condor]

ram dashes in general also resemble parries

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[lavish condor]

counter scarf for projectile parry dash

[idle dagger]

The shellphone components are being made a bit easier in SSO right? I think I heard something about that

Like a shimmer cycle for the ones from the travelling merchant?

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[indigo yacht]

iirc you can shimmer the traveling merchant ons

yes

[idle dagger]

Is there something happening like that for the architect gizmo pack components

[indigo yacht]

no

a few suggestions for it were made but they never got to voting

[drowsy plank]

^

[idle dagger]

I have made one in the past so I might resuggest it
Was asking just to make sure it didn’t already happen while I wasn’t looking

[drowsy plank]

yeah ur good, and you should

would be a good suggestion

[ashen warren]

#suggestions-posting message
not complete fix but aureus and pbg will require encrypted schematics to fight next update
a big issue is that currently the arsenal weapons just aren't good. if they are, which we're making them, then people will be incentivized to go out and get them

we also have quite a few very useful tools planned that are tied to the labs and codebreaker that won't be weapons, and people are very much going to want them

[severe sparrow]

It is so annoying that there are so many cool weapon concepts for Arsenal weapons and they just

suck

[severe sparrow]

i am a massive fan of the Bio center labs, cant wait to see what you make

[idle dagger]

I would have mentioned that the shellphone components from the travelling merchant had a shimmer cycle as a basis but I believe that falls under future content technically

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[hexed kiln]

omg yes pls with the architect gizmo components. on my current playthrough I didn't get the stupid cement mixer until after providence

[indigo yacht]

see what i do is i afk for unironically hours to get a single component before progressing

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/maçavras1-gif-16101498646883457546

[echo leaf]

i spend hours researching how the traveling merchant spawning mechanics and inventory stock mechanics work to produce the statistically optimal terchant farm (i spend hours to get the items i need)

[indigo yacht]

"why does my devourer of gods only have 681600 health is it bugged"

[crude geode]

@kind laurel this used to be a thing. It was removed for a variety of reasons

On top of the reasons still existing, this is a reversion suggestion which isn’t allowed

[half imp]

yeah DoG won't be getting this back

As much as it made the phase transition make more sense

[lucid marsh]

That's lame

Second healthbars don't improve gameplay but they improve everything else

[indigo yacht]

the obvious solution is to simply

actually i think most of the people here already know what i would say

[prisma sedge]

I do not

[crude geode]

Make it a config?

[crude geode]

[indigo yacht]

no "remove dog"

the only redeeming quality the boss has is the music and it's still like in the lower half of tracks in the mod

[drowsy plank]

why can't we just use a shield bar

[indigo yacht]

true ...

copy and paste code from examplemod

bam

[crude geode]

What

[kind laurel]

It used to exist?

I genuinely didn’t know

[crude geode]

Yeah it got removed

The only remnant of second health bars is those lines really

[drowsy plank]

the blue bar that goes over the red bar for vanilla HP bars

they're used for cryo's shield already

and the pillars

[crude geode]

something something rewrite incoming iirc

[kind laurel]

Ceaseless as well

[drowsy plank]

ture

[crude geode]

I know shields, I just fail to see how that solves the problem

[tepid crown]

the problem with using the shield bar is that its not shielding anything

[lucid marsh]

Shield bar sounds like a good compromise

[drowsy plank]

phase 2s like yharon and DoG would be fine if they just used shield since you would know more fight is coming

[prisma sedge]

It'd be kind of interesting here since it'd make sense for it to appear at the start of phase 2, rather than already be there from the start like shield bars usually are, but it sounds like a cool idea

[drowsy plank]

who give a shit

[tepid crown]

u just keep hurting dog

[drowsy plank]

tons of games use the layering bars for normal HP too

[lucid marsh]

No it's shielding his ego and telling you when the next phase is

[drowsy plank]

REAL

[indigo yacht]

the shield is his flesh and then when you kill all his flesh then the armor comes out (?)

[drowsy plank]

👍

[prisma sedge]

Honestly, alternatively though, I could see this as working with the eventual fully custom health bars
Like, maybe his could replace itself with an "armored" version of the bar, while Yharon's would just replenish as is

[drowsy plank]

real

[indigo yacht]

ok i just got some really cool imagery of when you get to dog phase 2 with the new sprite like there's just the tiniest flash of blood before it disappears into the portal and comes back out fully srmor

on an unrelated note

[lucid marsh]

I definitely want this now. Shield bars for bosses with important phase changes, like DoG and Yharon

[indigo yacht]

ok wait i have an idea

for a legitimate suggestion

sepulcher shield bar

ik most people just drage hearts but not everyone

[ashen warren]

the boss that needs a shield health bar the most is CV

[idle dagger]

I thought it had one tbh

[frail fox]

400 HP cv

[ashen warren]

for the vanilla one yeah, it uses the pillar

CV is the one boss where i prefer vanilla health bar over cal one it makes what youre supposed to do so much easier to see

[novel belfry]

speaking of shields

[prisma sedge]

As in, over the current Cal one or the upcoming HPU one?

[ashen warren]

current

upcoming isnt ingame yet

[novel belfry]

i think cryogen and anahita's shields are genuinely outdated and probably need to be reevaluated by the devs to see if they can be reworked into something better, or just removed

[indigo yacht]

hear me out

just make it so that you can pierce through the shields with piercing weapons

[novel belfry]

[indigo yacht]

so if you have a non piercing weapon you have to destroy the shield first but if you have a piercing weapon you can damage the boss still

[ashen warren]

cryogen shield is something ive had a thought for a while about

anahita i have no idea

shes fine for now cryo needs something more

[novel belfry]

i dunno if i mandela effected this into my mind, but i felt like in the past, Anahita back when she was called the Siren, had her Ice Shield look like it was attached onto her body, as in it was forming on her like armor

i dunno how to describe ti

[crude geode]

Absolute Mandela

It was just pasted on the back

[novel belfry]

but honestly all i can think of for the ice shield is to just turn it into a second phase sprite for anahita or something, make her create ice armor to exemplify her increased power over water

dont make it matter too much in the fight really

[novel belfry]

yea that seems more likely

[keen zodiac]

no you were right

[novel belfry]

so i wasn't gaslighting myself

I KNEW IT

now im gonna go ask for this ice armor to be added as vanity in calval

dont ask why

[last shard]

Why

[idle dagger]

Oh I genuinely forgot about the rev boss bar since I use vanilla most of the time

[novel belfry]

(don't ask for anything related to nahlyn in calval suggestions, this got immediately rejected)

[prisma sedge]

Can I ask for context on who that is?

[indigo yacht]

probably not a frog

[novel belfry]

(another name for the Siren, the previous version of Anahita)

as a calval dev stated, "absolutely nothing related to nahlyn, by request of her creator"

[prisma sedge]

Ah I seee, that's fair enough then!

[worn elk]

I still have the mgr healthbar enabled xd

or I did last time I played calamity at least

[half imp]

community and shattered community are meant to be meta-items, not canon

iirc

while this suggestion isn't invalid, I personally think it's unlikely to happen

shattered community is a dedicated item (one of Ozzatron's dev items) so that also means the final decision on reworking it would be his discretion

[drowsy plank]

it drops from analevi because that was probably the most balanced point for it to drop at when it was first added

and maybe something to do with leviathan, who used to be a calamity youtuber

[half imp]

I mean realistically with scaling stats it doesn't matter when it drops

[cold cosmos]

Starter bag item

[half imp]

From a balancing perspective

it's already not worth using until a notable amount of bosses after it's normally obtained

[hollow shell]

This suggestion is valid but I respectfully disagree with it

Even though Community is a very spread-thin stat-stick, boring in immediate practical effect indeed,
its identity is still really strong in being the only remaining item in the game that scales from every boss

It is the Stat Stick

And I feel like it's more distinct as it is than if it were yet another water themed item to make it "fit" Ana & Levi

[pure verge]

the Community could drop from either Desert Scourge, Slime God, or DoG, since those are the first 3 bosses added by Cal, a nice nod to the mod's history

[grim tusk]

exclam since Shattered Com is a dev item

[olive saddle]

i thought that said shattered coin

my favorite calamity mod tmodloader item, shattered coin

[indigo yacht]

wouldn't this be a bug report not a suggestion

if they're trying to make items compatible with ddu

[distant gyro]

but like sun stone is a vanilla item

and remix doesnt completely negate the internal day/night cycle in some weirdly specific aspects

[indigo yacht]

oh ok

[distant gyro]

i mean i guess it would be funny if tequila is actively a debuff in remix

[whole tundra]

@spare pond Server suggestions go in the staff mail

Also https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Class_setups exists

[spare pond]

:D

[spare pond]

oh.........

[polar bison]

Very fleshed out page with tons of community input

Highly recommend

[spare pond]

but it would be nice in the discord server too

[fleet grotto]

it's called going in #wiki-lookup and typing "!wiki guide:class setups"

[spiral solstice]

Quick question, has there ever been talk over a calamity yoyo bag upgrade? (yes maybe yoyos coming afterwards would need a nerf then)

[glass arch]

is the bot down shouldnt the most recent sugg in posting be hit with compression

[dense frost]

Sisyphus prime

[tepid crown]

@inland saddle sugg bot died

[inland saddle]

It's back

[grave zinc]

@novel belfry - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Enchanted Sword enemies post-Mech Bosses (as a whole) drop Hallowed Ore]

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@cold peak - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Guarantee that the Travelling Merchant sells at least one of his PDA items when he arrives]

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@umbral gazelle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rename underground astral infection bestiary section]

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@alpine dawn - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give Mage some more Accessories]

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[golden sonnet]

A suggestion has passed before but it's very old at this point. Although I personally don't see it necessary due to the dynamic nature of yoyo bag, and would result in nerfing all yoyos in exchange making yoyo bag more necessary, it should be fine to suggest again

[small bramble]

lowkey I'd love if yoyos got the same treatment flamethrowers got with the mass rework

though I know they're hard to make interesting

[golden sonnet]

Even though it's scheduled for eventual deletion, I feel like dozes changes to lacerator are fairly simple while still making it much much much more cool

[small bramble]

oh lacerator is gonna die? rip (I never used it lol)
I'm interested to see how it gets changed

[tepid crown]

30 hits per frame

[fleet grotto]

30 frames per hit

[tepid crown]

TRUE

[prisma sedge]

Admittedly kind of funny
"At last, we've found a way to make yoyos cool without changing too much about how they function! Now the next step is...to get rid of them"

[golden sonnet]

Doze reworked the bloodstone weapons knowing they'd be removed in the future, but those plans are far enough away they found it worth reworking still, and I agree, I think they are sick

[prisma sedge]

Oh wait, all of them are? Is that in relation to the Ravager retier?

[golden sonnet]

All or almost all yeah, I don't recall if any are staying in their current state. But yes, with the rav retier

[oblique birch]

oh wow

rip to those, in a far distant future

if the reworks are peak it's gonna be really sad when they're gone

[serene tendon]

What does the Rav retier have to do with removing the bloodstone weapons? They're already after post-Prov Ravager?

[oblique birch]

a bloody weapons tier follows by a bloody weapons tier

back to back same theme

[drowsy plank]

the current bloodstone weapons will die to make room for a new suite of reworks more inline with the overall bloodstone rework which will also tie it more concretely to ravager

make it all more thematically coherent

since current bloodstone was supposed to be dropped by three different bosses so it's kinda all over the place

[drowsy plank]

presumably any functionality worth keeping will probably just get moved to something else

[oblique birch]

hoping for the best outcome

[errant cradle]

cheese server suggestions go the ModMail

[drowsy plank]

@river lily ^

[river lily]

fuck !

[drowsy plank]

former mod now WASHED

[errant cradle]

we've gotten like one or two of these already though so like

[river lily]

pensive

[errant cradle]

yeah we'll look into it

[river lily]

oh okay

[errant cradle]

dunno if the feature has been dished out to us yet is the issue

[river lily]

was mine funny though i need to keep up my reputation as internet funnywoman

[drowsy plank]

7/10

[errant cradle]

i give it 8 out of 10 funny points

[river lily]

oh ok yeah thanks i'll take that

[royal tapir]

You will explode in 10

/10

[errant wren]

sorry, i'm supposed to be internet funnywoman, i'm taking over your position

[tepid crown]

no thats my job

[errant wren]

excuse me?

[tepid crown]

im the internet funnywoman

[errant wren]

no, i'm the internet funnywoman

[tepid crown]

nuh uh

[errant wren]

yuh huh

[prisma sedge]

I'm Radio Rebel!

Wait shit, wrong channel

[errant wren]

mods... i don't even know just put a reaction on this

[indigo yacht]

none of you are funny

<3

[deep cape]

I had an idea for a stupid joke submission but I’m not committed enough to the bit to actually post it

Jeppson’s Malört as a new alcohol bought from the Drunk Princess

Increases damage dealt by sickness debuffs

Uh I’m not sure how to make it funny it’s not a good joke

Maybe it counts as a debuff so it activates Infected Jewel and stuff idk

[indigo yacht]

you would be publicly executed

[deep cape]

Because it tastes bad

[grave zinc]

@umbral gazelle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rename underground astral infection bestiary section]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[keen zodiac]

huge w for bestiary gang (i'm the only member)

[deep cape]

Heck yeah

[oblique birch]

minor incovenience, instant fix

[indigo yacht]

100 billion stars

[errant wren]

very minor non-issue, higher voter turnout than the population of the multiverse

[tepid crown]

icicle arrow

[indigo yacht]

"this one item uses the wrong 'their' in its tooltip"

[keen zodiac]

how is this relevant to discussing suggestions

[dense frost]

My bad

[sharp mica]

Can't wait for calamity merchandise

[lucid marsh]

Thoughts on my shield bar suggestion?

It's up for voting now, I'm surprised it isn't more well liked

It gives more information than the current way does, and looks cool

[dense frost]

I like it

[keen zodiac]

shield bars good

[vestal crater]

would it be a bad idea to suggest amphibian boots to get the fairy boots and hellfire boots treatment?

[drowsy plank]

what does that even mean amphibian boots already have a secondary effect

fairy and hellfire were purely vanity before the cal changes

esp since they killed the bait exploit with fairy

[vestal crater]

Idk that’s why I’m asking

[tepid crown]

bait exploit?

[vestal crater]

Grass made bugs

[drowsy plank]

you could break the grass and critters would spawn

[tepid crown]

o

[drowsy plank]

im pretty sure red like halves or quartered the spawn rate from fairy boot grass in a patch at some point

[tepid crown]

i just stockpile fairies in pre hm lol

[vestal crater]

I just do 200 fishing quests pre boss

Usually enough for the playthrough

[half imp]

Amph Boots actually have a unique effect unlike Hellfire or Fairy

I did already undo the amphibian nerf so they have the power of a full freg

[vestal crater]

Yippeee

[tepid crown]

thank god we get our 12% jump boost back

[half imp]

finally they have use

[indigo yacht]

goodbye lightning boots youre now obsolete

[errant wren]

lightning boots now increase electric damage or something

[indigo yacht]

overpowered

[errant wren]

we will make lightning boots meta for endgame

[tepid crown]

horrid idea

[vestal crater]

The one singular electric debuff until ducking moon lord:

[tepid crown]

electrified

[vestal crater]

Yeah

Good debuff kinda

But abyssal amulet debuff better

[half imp]

L take

We need terramphifire treads tbh

[echo leaf]

combine every boot into one

biblically accurate seraph tracers

[indigo yacht]

true ...

[half imp]

Recipe requires Seraph Tracers, Elysian Tracers, Celestial Tracers, Angel Treads, Terraspark Boots, Frostspark Boots, Lightning Boots, Spectre Boots, Fairy Boots, Flower Boots, Iron Boots, Hellfire Treads, Flame Walker Boots, amphibian boots, sailfish boots, rocket boots, flurry boots, Hermes boots, interstellar stompers, and dunerider boots

Have fun

[tepid crown]

forgot the best boots

||flippers||

[half imp]

uhh

I guess

[tepid crown]

they go on ur feet

[olive saddle]

still wont inherit the sand movement speed bonus...

[distant gyro]

shoe of the universe

[indigo yacht]

shoe of eternity

[spice stream]

if the devs weren’t dilly dallying:

[half imp]

shoe of shoes

[dense frost]

A pair of shoes

[indigo yacht]

shoe pair of shoe shoes

[errant wren]

The Shoe Shoe Pair of True Shoe™

[tardy geyser]

true paladian mage shoes of might

[grim tusk]

Shoes so red, so shiny that either make you dance forever

or you have a girl and a witch fight for em

[lucid marsh]

A witch you say

Calamitas wants the brimstone shoes

[fleet grotto]

shiny? red? like the balloon?

[deep cape]

Man brimstone and holy and dragon flares would be pretty funny ngl

[grave zinc]

@novel belfry - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Enchanted Sword enemies post-Mech Bosses (as a whole) drop Hallowed Ore]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
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@cold peak - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Guarantee that the Travelling Merchant sells at least one of his PDA items when he arrives]

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@alpine dawn - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give Mage some more Accessories]

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@umbral gazelle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

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[errant wren]

sad

[alpine dawn]

WIN

[prisma sedge]

Honestly, it's interesting how as it moves down, the results get progressively more positive

[novel belfry]

h

[violet sierra]

could jsut be how the bot processes the commands

Would a suggestion asking to make the death blood moon happen in revengance as well so that when the difficulty changes are implemented expert players dont lose the blood moon farm conflict with the "future content suggestions" rule?

[glass arch]

for that reasoning yes

[violet sierra]

then ill just wait until the changes happen

and make a sugg then

[grizzled dome]

It has been voted upon by the devs, and although it did not receieve enough positive votes to pass, the final results were very close.
never seen that text before (although I might have just missed it)

[half imp]

yeah it's happened before

Also goodness every time I see your PFP I think it's a close up of samus's helmet

every. time. And then I remember it's bananas. Every. Time.

[grizzled dome]

my pfp used to be buer but I think that was well before I joined this server

[deep cape]

Mage could use a means of inflicting extra debuffs with its attacks ngl

It’s the only class that doesn’t really get to choose to do so

Three classes can use flasks, summoner’s accessories let its minions inflict debuffs on top of that, ranger can swap ammo to get different results, mage doesn’t do any of that

[crude geode]

Piss book when it

[deep cape]

You’re not wrong

But swapping weapons is haaaaaaaaaaaard

[crude geode]

Cope

Far better design than “I drank this potion so I get to inflict this debuff”

(I hate flasks I hate flasks)

[echo leaf]

flask of party....... the classless flask.......

[errant wren]

clearly we need to replace mage gameplay with that of ffxiv

[orchid briar]

A lot easier than swapping ammo

[crude geode]

[golden sonnet]

Until next update

[deep cape]

Flask of Party is based

[echo leaf]

flask of party is so good, it got me kicked out of a multiplayer run

[deep cape]

Can the confetti lag the game

[echo leaf]

Yes

[crude geode]

Ballin

[lucid marsh]

Debuffs just in general kind of don't do anything except a tiny bit extra dps

[olive saddle]

me when cursed flames multiplied your damage taken by 1.2x

[novel belfry]

hi im actually unironically curious as to why my sugg to give enchanted sword enemies hallowed ore drops was rejected

[austere pumice]

Make infernum playable with getfixedboi

[drowsy plank]

why are you saying this here

[austere pumice]

Oh i thought it was created here

So i give a suggestion

That i wanted to discuss

[drowsy plank]

no infernum isnt official

if it was official it would just be part of calamity

[austere pumice]

Oh well

I'll look for the discord

[drowsy plank]

it should be in #other-discords i believe

[alpine dawn]

Tactical frame manipulation

Oh

I hate discord mobile

[dense frost]

Grrr

[severe sparrow]

from what i recall, Infernum is not getting any new content, just patches and updates to later versions. Not sure if letting Infernum play on GFB counts as getting any new content...

[indigo yacht]

literally like the only cool buffs

[half imp]

I can't say what reason others voted what they did, but my thought is that it adds an unnecessary inventory item bloat because the ore/bar is far easier to get from killing the mechs (and shimmering the bars if you want the ore specifically), so it'll just end up being another random item in your inventory

All the ore drops from enemies are done not because we want every ore to have an enemy to drop it, but because we want every ore to be renewable on-tier besides fishing

[errant wren]

i... think that was the reasoning for that suggestion? then again mechs do already exist...

[half imp]

yeah exactly

we already have a renewable way to get it

and one that works easier than killing enchanted swords which are rare

[errant wren]

but what if someone is actively grinding enchanted swords and/or souls of light yeah no that's fair

[grim tusk]

will never happen, we dont handle inf and inf finished development

this is a case of do it yourself

[spice stream]

5 minute crafts diy!

[half imp]

Souls of Light drop from queen slime, and enchanted swords drop nothing useful so like

The only reason is bestiary/banner

[errant wren]

then clearly the solution is to make enchanted swords drop broken hero swords post-plantera

but yeah i understand the decision

[indigo yacht]

it's over

[calm nacelle]

Least insane enchanted sword fan:

[errant wren]

oh believe me i could not care less

i'm just going insane generally

[vestal crater]

i think ill do a fuck it we ball suggestion

tell me if i broke any rules

[echo leaf]

You need more robust reasoning than “It would be funny”

The suggestion itself is not bad

[whole tundra]

Just remove the it would annoy players part and make it more clear that it's about consistency

[echo leaf]

I’m pretty sure that technically teleporting in the abyss is fine

It’s just that you cannot have Chaos State in the abyss

[half imp]

yeah

but almost everything besides teleporters does chaos state

And HoD

[vestal crater]

is it four items that can make you tp?

it is right

there

[dense locust]

hide of doom

[indigo yacht]

can't wait for someone to mention how much setup teleporters in the abyss require

you have to hold m1 down the entire time and then place 2 items

its super hard

[humble scarab]

yes

and whats the fuss about teleporters, i havent seen anyone using them beside me

[indigo yacht]

a lot of people use them

i couldn't say how many though

[crude geode]

idk, I feel like very few people do, especially since pylons exist

[indigo yacht]

i mean in the abyss

[fleet grotto]

you can let go

and then just start again where you left off

[vocal moth]

i used it a few years ago to cheese dog

[echo leaf]

Teleporters are AWESOME

I love 'em to bits

[grave zinc]

@alpine dawn - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give Mage some more Accessories]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[alpine dawn]

win

[distant gyro]

some more is a bit vague but there's at least 2 coming

[alpine dawn]

yeah band and blood totem

[distant gyro]

possibly 3 if the

bangle upgrade finishes

• chaos stone rework

• other stuff i forgot

[frail fox]

I hope they’re all mana cuff upgrades

[distant gyro]

kill

[oblique birch]

Mana Flower

[lucid marsh]

Mana cloak

[errant wren]

arcane reforge buff 🙏

[indigo yacht]

too op

[torn palm]

Yo guys thoughts on reverting some of the celestial claymore changes back from bountiful harvest? I was thinking on making a post abt it

Cause like believe me IK it was op before but the nerfs were fudging nuts and it feels kinda lame now imo

Like star number being nerfed from 3 to 2, (33.33% nerf alone) On top of the already 70 to 59 dmg decrease being a 15.71% nerf, on top of the use time nerf from 19 to 24 being a 26.32% nerf. And then the debuffs were also nerfed like holyy

I feel like this weapon is just subpar compared to other early HM weapons you can get right away.

[misty lichen]

this would be for #1178515062030348308

what ur saying does seem to line up with tests tho

#suggestions-posting message also why was this marked

[lucid marsh]

Isn't basically every dungeon weapon several tiers weaker than it should be?

[torn palm]

Yeah mb i missread this channel, thought it was discussing the balance suggestions

[torn palm]

Wdym tho?

[misty lichen]

just a quick search

[torn palm]

Got it thanks man

My poor baby was brutalized

[ashen warren]

flesh totem is becoming one, and theres two more i wanna finish this update

so 6?

[frail fox]

Damn all those + flesh totem and the crowns, mage actually feasting

[ancient cradle]

is there a rule that prohibits from making a suggestion for something that can be fixed by downloading just another mod? I havent found anything about that in calamity suggestion guide, but I could be just blind

[lucid marsh]

No

I think

[eternal escarp]

depends on what the suggestion is

if its "add recipes for common items" then just get a qol mod

if its something you think can hold ground and should be included in base calamity then yeah

[ancient cradle]

hard to tell to be honest, but I'll give it a try

[frail fox]

Feel like this suggestion could be worded better

Cause it makes it sound like rams aren't good, but I assume it just means non-ram dashes

[oblique birch]

Ye something is definitely wrong here

[pure verge]

Aqua Scepter

[whole tundra]

#suggestions-posting message could be worded better as shields are the ones that ram dash, not the scarfs

[indigo yacht]

this one reads like two suggestions that were merged by cutting each individual sentence in half then combining them

[whole tundra]

Also, it would be cool is like half the reasoning

[fleet grotto]

the title sounds like "buff ram dashes" to me

[indigo yacht]

i mean that's pretty much what it is

but like

slagsplitter pauldron buffs ram dashes but it takes a whole accessory slot that could be used for a lot of different things

[tepid crown]

counter scarf does not need another upgrade dear god

[humble scarab]

Dashes really need an upgrade?

[fleet grotto]

i do think that the dashes that aren't rams have an incredibly hard time competing with the rams, but they have a good niche and are sometimes better for bosses than rams (although limited)

[drowsy plank]

dashes are a little weaker than rams atm but to call them unviable is just outright wrong

frankly rams are the ones that need a nerf because of how centric boss design is around them at this time

regardless, im not really sure where that leaves this suggestion

@river pilot i dont know how "damage buffing" would fix this problem, and saying that non-shield dashes are unviable is just outright wrong. on more projectile based bosses like providence and scal they are quite viable.

if you can focus more on the why and remove the factual inaccuracies i can probably unflag this

also idk how to feel about the tombstone one because everyone would just say "just get no more tombstones" but the suggester specifically wanted to make it in spite of that mod existing

which is weird

[indigo yacht]

your pickaxes mine tombstones faster as you progress through the game is that not enough

i usually do stuff that makes me take like a dozen or so tries per boss and tombstones don't really bother me

[indigo yacht]

only when nohitting

[whole tundra]

Concept post (now posted in #suggestions-posting)
Make freshly generated Calamity worlds start at 4:30am instead of 8:15am

All generated worlds start at 8:15am, which is kinda weird. No part of the ingame day starts at that time. If you have the Vanilla Calamity Mod Music mod (which is officially endorsed) enabled, the day theme gets split into 4 sections and obviously due to freshly generated worlds being set to 8:15am, you don't get to fully listen to A Legend's Strife, which is split into 4 sections. The first section, which really feels like an opening track for the game itself gets entirely skipped and part of the morning section gets skipped aswell.
It would also make the first night slightly more bearable as most people tend to struggle with the first night due to the time given to prepare for it, which causes alot of players to just build a box and stay in there for the entire night.

Making freshly generated Calamity worlds start at 4:30 instead of 8:15am would not only make starting a new world more of a new experience, but it is also pretty practical for players.

[drowsy plank]

kind of peak tbqh

[river pilot]

I was saying for the scarfs as well bruh

like after like what mech bosses scarfs become useless

[drowsy plank]

people have used them on scal

[river pilot]

like no build i have seen realistically has a scarf

[drowsy plank]

then you dont know very many builds

[echo leaf]

the scarves have a niche for being a consistent 30s dodge

[drowsy plank]

which bypasses universal dodge cooldown also

[echo leaf]

The most similar dash (MNG) has a dodge that goes up to 90s

[drowsy plank]

which is huge

[echo leaf]

When damage numbers are high and the value of a ram is low then the scarves can be used to eek out some more free dodges and i-frames

It’s far from META but that’s OK

[drowsy plank]

a controlled dodge every 30 seconds is very powerful, it's just that most bosses are contact damage based so you can just use rams and get one every like. 3 seconds instead. except on projectile based bosses like provi and scal like i mentioned earlier

[river pilot]

i would be nice if we had a scarf that gives you decent damage buff but the dodge is cd is higher

[drowsy plank]

why

[river pilot]

i don't know you tell me why it wouldn't be fun

[echo leaf]

if the cooldown was longer it’d lose the value it has and the damage can’t be too high or else it’d compete too much with primary offensive accessories

[drowsy plank]

because the true melee damage on scarves is stupid and closer to dying than getting buffed, and im not sure what the conditional damage actually adds to the functionality of the item whatsoever

also that yeah

[echo leaf]

Good luck trying to give melee a third damage accessory that functions in the face of warbanner and elemental gauntlet

[drowsy plank]

wdym just make it like pre-nerf celestial shell that would work

[river pilot]

hmm what about a scarf that gives adernaline on dodge?

[drowsy plank]

why

[river pilot]

why not?

it's fun

[tepid crown]

you need to give a proper explanation

[echo leaf]

A better idea, but then it’d be revengence only which isn’t ideal

[river pilot]

you dodge more and evade more but you can't be hit else it's a waste

[drowsy plank]

because you need to provide reasoning with your suggestion here, and you cant just "why not" me

[river pilot]

why not 🙂

Ok jk

[drowsy plank]

"it's fun" isn't a real explanation and honestly i dont think it would be fun at all

[river pilot]

why not your getting rewarded for playing good

[echo leaf]

Maybe try to find a gap in the game? Maybe find something the game is missing that a variant of the scarf can fill

[river pilot]

if you get hit after a dodge it ain't good

[drowsy plank]

it would become highly centralizing because it would become a defensive accessory that rewards you with the single highest damage source in the game

[whole tundra]

You may aswell get godmode if you dislike that

[half imp]

we are already working on dash accessories anyway

[echo leaf]

Also a defensive accessory that gives one of the most powerful sources of DR in the game

[drowsy plank]

ture

[river pilot]

what?

[echo leaf]

adrenaline tanking my beloved

[half imp]

we don't have an upgraded scarf dodge though... yet...

[river pilot]

i just wanna say I have been having a great experience with calamity

[whole tundra]

You are complaining about not getting a free dodge immediatly after using a free dodge

[echo leaf]

just use aBrain

[river pilot]

I wasn't?

[whole tundra]

Sounds like a complaint to me

[drowsy plank]

it would be nice if there was a small upgrade just so you dont have to use a hardmode accessory post-ML, but the fact people were already using it at that point regardless does make me a bit worried about the implications an upgrade would have on the meta and such

[river pilot]

cuz your adernaline bar would go to zero

[drowsy plank]

plus it would stomp ninja belt even more than it already is lmao

[echo leaf]

I don’t think anyone would complain if the upgraded scarf had a slightly longer dash distance

[river pilot]

Just cuz I point out something small doesn't mean im complaining bruh

[echo leaf]

More comparable to Valor

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[river pilot]

that be good ngl

[echo leaf]

Then to really tell everyone “THIS IS AN UPGRADE PLEASE USE IT” you can increase the true melee damage from 15% to 20%

[half imp]

Ninja belt has been majorly reworked

It will be fine