suggestions-discussion

[indigo yacht]

there's already a suggestion that passed that's basically a less restrictive version of it

and the reasoning is... subpar

[crude geode]

people rebelling against the rules from lack of funny bot or smthn idk

[half imp]

it didn't break rules

it was borderline but

It's not a strong suggestion but it is a valid one I think

(also it's one that I would never ever see passing in dev)

[indigo yacht]

this suggestion already passed though so like

[errant wren]

we should add wing floating where instead of locking vertical movement it makes you bob up and down around that point

[indigo yacht]

it was just redundant

[indigo yacht]

make slime god great again

[errant wren]

god no

-# get it because slime god

[crude geode]

[drowsy plank]

it is a bad suggestion but yeah not invalid

just dont vote for it 👍

[last shard]

It's kind of nitpicky, so before I say anything, how much of a pain is it to edit fixed-form pregenerated structures?

[golden sonnet]

depends what you are referring to?

but calamity already touches pretty much every structure already, so shouldn't be hard to add a bit more to it

[last shard]

The Sunken Lab actually

Because of where it's found, it's easy to find it in a spot where opening the door floods the building

Which just seems odd for the lab to not have a way to be dry

I was thinking of suggesting an airlock-style room, r shaped chamber where you go upwards to enter, so that if the area does spawn in a spot where water will flood it it won't flood the building

(or just like a diagonal sealed slope, same thing to water physics in this game)

[last shard]

So really, it'd be even easier then since it's a fully fixed format building

[indigo yacht]

? don't the lab doors not let water through

so that this specifically doesn't happen

[last shard]

Is that so? I didn't know, hence my hesitation

Was extremely tentative of opening that one due to above reason

Wiki doesn't seem to mention this for the doors page either

[indigo yacht]

i could be misremembering

[tepid crown]

i dont suggest making a suggestion on this since next update is gonna change sunken sea generation entirely

[errant wren]

there's uh

there's only one door

[golden sonnet]

They stop water, but if you leave the door open and then reload the world it will let it all in when settling. This is addressed next update through changes to the lab

[errant wren]

huh.

[indigo yacht]

that's funny

[errant wren]

could've sworn it just let water in regardless

[kindred creek]

Can I make a reference to another mod in my suggestion?

I want to suggest an ability selector panel similar to Fargo’s souls mod to reduce the number of keybinds in the mod

[errant wren]

you could probably make an argument for it

[indigo yacht]

i mean, the document says no "references to other media", and unless you were specifically arguing to add it as a reference then I don't see why alluding to Fargo's as an example in your argument would be disallowed

[frail fox]

“Add Mutant boss”

[errant wren]

amazing sugg

[errant wren]

specifically referring to this

[indigo yacht]

Fargo is sucha good mod and calamity is the best mod so they should cross over and add mutant to calmity

also please nerf plaguebringer goliath

he is impossible

[crude geode]

They should add clamity to fargo

[novel belfry]

myabe we should rename him to yharim and give him a resprite that looks like the Auric Tesla Armor

[tepid crown]

ooh wat if it only did that on a specififc date

but

[tepid crown]

what date would be good enough to warrant that,,,,

[half imp]

#suggestions-posting message
we already have plans to reduce keybind hell

[novel belfry]

in all honesty i cannot believe the lorde is actually back

[half imp]

keybinds will be reduced to something like

Armor Set Bonus Override
Dash Override
Gravity Swap Override
Mount Ability
Accessory Ability 1 - 7 (7 options due to 7 slots)

ooha and God Slayer Dash

[tepid crown]

gsd keybing exists until auric explodes

[half imp]

yea

[tepid crown]

(the current iteration of auric i mean, not the entirety of auric)

[half imp]

and then it goes to armor set bonus

[coral carbon]

cant wait for yall to rebuke keybinds

[oblique birch]

isn't God Slayer Dash is just included in armor set bonus override

[half imp]

no

auric armor

[oblique birch]

hmmm

[half imp]

two set bonus effects means two keys

(melee has Tarragon Cloak and ranged has Bloodflare soul thing)

therefore we need a keybind seperate for GSD

[oblique birch]

I guess so

until Auric explodes

[hollow shell]

I've thought for a while that there could just be 8 ability use keys

One for each accessory slot; the key would use the ability of whatever is in that slot
and one for armor

But maybe that'd be weird for the player.
Wouldn't be able to show the key in the tooltip in the inventory

But the positive is that it'd be a fixed amount of keybinds no matter how many acc and armor abilities get added

[hollow shell]

yeah exactly see you got me

[fossil torrent]

heh

i did talk to ozzatron about adding a variation of it and they seemed positive

[indigo yacht]

grav swap override ‼️

featherfall my love

[indigo yacht]

(until some developer decides to be fucked up and evil and makes an accessory or armor set that needs two different keybinds for some reason)

[half imp]

We're doing something similar, except it specifically only gives keybinds to accessories that use them

So Accesory Ability 1 would be the highest up accesory with an ability

Accesory Ability 2 would be the second highest, and so on

[hollow shell]

Alright I see I see

[novel belfry]

Okay, I'm pretty certain I can't post another sugg this period, but I'm personally thinking about boss shaders in Calamity and how uninteresting they often are. The best of the bunch is the Exo Mechs shader, but the majority of boss shaders are just variations of the Moon Lord's shader without the distortion and only some coloration. (Scal's recently lost the coloration, which sure might be somewhat better... but it doesn't look right to me)

I think Calamity could do a lot more with making its boss shaders look better

Fargo DLC Calclone, while a weird fight overall, does have this really neat boss background that makes the fight look like you're surrounded by a swirling mass of darkness that was probably summoned by the Clone. It looks great, and I wish something similar was there for the base fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWhKyi-cfIQ

The best boss shader I've seen for a Calamity-adjacent mod is Catalyst's background for Astralgeldon, and boy is it exceptional for a cosmic background. Imagine something like that for DoG.

DoG's boss shaders/background are the worst imo, because they're so basic: They're either just the sky being colored pink-purple or cyan, or the background is just pitch-black like Moon Lord again.

[olive saddle]

clearly we must give desert scourge a brown shader that turns the desert into a mirage of an ocean

[fleet grotto]

honestly i think providence's is the worst

i just think it looks bad :(

[novel belfry]

✅

[indigo yacht]

the boss has barely been changed for like a decade so makes sense

[novel belfry]

true...

but this sounds like an "easier" change

[last shard]

Honestly wouldn't simpler shaders be optimal though?

When you reach bosses that can well and truly flood the screen in attacks, you have to make sure they're clearly visible at all times to avoid players taking too many "cheap" deaths to it

So how they change the shader might end up requiring some resprites or secondary effect changes as well to retain that visibility

[novel belfry]

I mean, there has to be some amount of making sure shaders dont look overwhelming

I think the reason why they're making Boss Rush shaders look worse is because it made some projectiles really hard to see

especially when it darkened

that looked really neat, but alas there was a good reason to stop that

[lucid marsh]

what's this about?

[novel belfry]

from personal experience the worst shader for me was infernum yharon

why... is it... so bright...

[drowsy plank]

fargo's keybind ui

[lucid marsh]

Ah

[devout rivet]

january and still nothing has changed crazy

[flint rose]

what????

what does this even mean

#suggestions-voting message

theres no way this gets added seeing how much this would mess with balance

wing boosts are completely broken and hovers are really strong

[keen zodiac]

utterly incomprehensible

[olive saddle]

as we all know, calamity is very well balanced

[flint rose]

i could see this suggestion maybe being added to tracers

but drews wings are already very good

i dont see the upside to adding these features to it

also something being unbalanced isnt an excuse to make it more unbalanced just because

[indigo yacht]

you're aware of how game development works, yes?

[half imp]

Wings already have plans

but not the the point I'll lock the suggestion

[novel belfry]

counterpoint: it’s basically the last wing excluding tracers

[half imp]

If we gave hover to anything it would likely be a God Slayer wing

[novel belfry]

i think if the author mentioned that, it might be more justified byeah

[half imp]

Or God Slayer might be a boost

[hearty yew]

hi I'm right here what's up

[fossil torrent]

well i posted it and there's that

[hearty yew]

oh

yes that's the progress on our own keybind fixing

[drowsy plank]

@loud pilot this isn't formatted correctly and also has no reasoning
also by this logic every attack should be called "death-" something because if i dont wear any gear and use no life upgrades almost any attack can oneshot a player

i think i will just delete it

[novel belfry]

didn’t even bother to let the exclamation mark kill the sugg, went straight to murdering it in broad daylight

yharim would love you to be one of his soldiers

[devout rivet]

been 7-8 updates since then

[indigo yacht]

what

there hasn't been a single update wdym

[devout rivet]

it seems like a pretty reasonable change

and simple to do

[devout rivet]

monthly patch

[indigo yacht]

😭?

[devout rivet]

are you not aware of monthy patches or something

is that a foreign concept

[indigo yacht]

there has been a single patch and it was purely a bugfix

they don't content in bugfixes

[devout rivet]

nah they reworked draedons ui

i consider that an update

meaning they couldve added tons of small suggestions as well but chose not to

[indigo yacht]

well yeah because they're waiting for sso...?

where they're already adding/reworking a huge amount of other things

[half imp]

well the issue is

[errant wren]

development

[half imp]

extracting out those things to add from the dev branch is not always practical

[glass arch]

...thats a tmod thing

not cal

and cal only updates with monthly tmod updates when theres major breakage which generally isnt the case

[crude geode]

Ok THAT’S what they referring to lmao

So confused

[humble scarab]

same xd

[safe pine]

didn't adding post-moonlord hover wings already get confirmed lmao

[novel belfry]

seraph tracer

hover is just you running in midair

[indigo yacht]

isnt this already happening

[drowsy plank]

jesus christ we're never going to stop getting suggestions for things that are already done

[indigo yacht]

sounds like a yes

[safe pine]

for which one

[indigo yacht]

yours

[tepid crown]

we need stuff like 🏁 and 🔒 for sugg posting

just

immediately sends to voting, immediately reacts to em

[safe pine]

it is? I checked suggestion history stuff and changelogs history and didn't see it in either

[indigo yacht]

voting dilution tbh

[indigo yacht]

i dont think it's in either but I'm fairly certain the devs have mentioned it repeatedly since elysian tracers being trash isn't exactly a secret

[tepid crown]

you should check the future content doc too

[safe pine]

where do I check that, didn't know it was a thing

[tepid crown]

#calamity-update-talk pins

[safe pine]

found it

yeah it's there but would nice to have the recipe change go ahead and happen, rather than waiting on sprites

even if it's gonna be resprited/reworked, why wait until they've rebalanced all of pre-hm and hm just for a smaller balance change

[indigo yacht]

true

[crude geode]

We will! It’ll just happen like a week after sso drops

[half imp]

@safe pine tracers are already being moved pre dog

[safe pine]

Elsi and Tsuki pointed that out, but I'd rather the tiershift / recipe change happen soon, not in 6 updates when Calamity has rebalanced all of pre-hm and hardmode (since iirc they're rebalancing it in progression order)

[half imp]

no I mean

I'm literally doing it today

[safe pine]

oh alr

[half imp]

it's not a "eventually"

it's a "happening this update"

[safe pine]

wasn't in changelogs or anything when I checked before putting that there, didn't know hah

removed sugg, sorry

[half imp]

yeah no worries

It happens constantly

[safe pine]

and thanks

[half imp]

Not everything is in changelogs

[oblique birch]

the everything changelogs will be on the wiki when the update drops

[safe pine]

yeah, changelogs and previous suggestions are just.. what I had already checked in case it was already done/guaranteed

[half imp]

yup

but it was a very good suggestion

(to the point we're already doing it)

[errant wren]

sugg so good it gets implemented before it even gets into voting

[whole tundra]

[half imp]

I don't think we actually have that message

Instead it's obvious when you try to enable it bc you can only do Death

[last shard]

Oh is THAT why I've been getting my rear shattered so badly?

[half imp]

And Death has a message that it's a lot harder

[errant wren]

we should make more enemies drop ankh charm ingredients and inflict their debuffs

[safe pine]

yes, Master Rev/Death is way harder than Expert atm

[half imp]

so true

[whole tundra]

That post was made prior to those changes came into play

[half imp]

Y'know what else we should do

[last shard]

I used to be able to at least do Pre-HM vanilla Master pretty well but no Rev/Death Master now has been a nightmare

[half imp]

we should uhh

[tepid crown]

rework sunken sea perhaps?

[half imp]

give spider staff 2 extra updates and local iframes

[errant wren]

overhaul it, even

[crude geode]

[tepid crown]

is this an actual thing...

[errant wren]

we can call the sunken sea overhaul

[whole tundra]

Buff Paper Airplanes

[tepid crown]

two extra update spiders...

[half imp]

give eye of the golem and sniper scope +20% crit damage

[last shard]

Give us a way to disable Goblin Armies after first kill for being valueless annoyances

[half imp]

give avenger emblem +16% damage

[last shard]

...wait, actually is there something like that?

Like the Broken Water Filter for Acid Rain?

[half imp]

and give Philo stone back to Deific

[safe pine]

was just about to mention, that would be a valid addition

[last shard]

Imma do that then rq

[safe pine]

for the Pirates especially

[half imp]

I love spouting nonsense

none of you will know if anything I said was real or if any of it was fake

[oblique birch]

evil

[last shard]

Done

I like the idea of shimmering summon totems to get the invasion disable

Since all three have one and will give some time at least to see it once or twice before you disable it for good.

(They also have NPCs unlocked but that feels like a cheaper solution?)

[half imp]

This reminds me I need to disable acid rain spawn when journey rain freeze is on

[last shard]

What do you think would be a fun unlock condition for the disable

[safe pine]

probably like... craft with something they drop, or drop from like the pirate ship miniboss

or just pre-hardmode craft and post-wof crafted items

[fleet grotto]

"4th Wall"

Prevents natural invasion events from occuring when enabled
Right click to disable

[last shard]

Idk if having a "disable all" should be the only solution

Because Pre-HM is the worst offender with invasions, and that would disable a HM event

Maybe like, as a final iteration though?

[fleet grotto]

i specifically said natural

[half imp]

4th wall is only obtainable post pillars clearly

[last shard]

...wait, that could actually be cool

[fleet grotto]

Post martians because that's the final (normal) invasion event

[half imp]

I think it would be funny if it disables pillars

[last shard]

If Pillars were included in that, then it'd be great for ML farming

[fleet grotto]

True...

[half imp]

... Just use the celestial sigil?

[last shard]

Although you could just yeah

[fleet grotto]

Cultist farming you mean?

[last shard]

Use sigil

[half imp]

cultist farming for 30 ancient manipulator

[fleet grotto]

doesn't cultist have a rare drop

[last shard]

Cultist should be fought in the Abyss with full enemy spawn rates

That sounds like a fun fight

[fleet grotto]

That sounds like hell

would a suggestion for buffing eidolon wyrms be considered a reversion

[last shard]

...actually though, wouldn't air/ground versions of Abyss enemies being summoned during Cultist Fight be slightly lore-friendly too

Since that's where they threw the rejected cultist results

[tepid crown]

yea mask n trophy

[drowsy plank]

lmao

[fleet grotto]

i swear he had like

a flower...

[tepid crown]

no

[drowsy plank]

that's been crafted for a while

[fleet grotto]

im going nuts

[fleet grotto]

im going wrinkly and old

[tepid crown]

indeed

there never was a flower

[last shard]

Hmmm

So then what would be a good reason to have an item that disables pillars though

[fleet grotto]

aforementioned farming cultist

[drowsy plank]

why do you need one

[last shard]

If included with an invasion disable or having it's own thing

[fleet grotto]

there's the pet, trophy, and mask

[last shard]

Tinkering a suggestion

[drowsy plank]

i guess if you REALLY want cultist trophy or smthn

[oblique birch]

Tablet Fragment is a cool pet

[last shard]

Figuring out how to propose it be done more specifically, I guess, to make a Broken Water Filter variant for other "invasion" events

[fleet grotto]

anyways

[last shard]

But I did forget Martians and Pillars exist

[fleet grotto]

you can already stop the time based events with just two clicks

[last shard]

Time based yes

But imo time based ones are cool and, well, "based" as it's said

Invasion based events feel valueless for how annoying they are, and it's not even "go do something else for a little bit then!" it's "No you can't come back until you do this"

Which hurts more when it sticks at your main hub

I have built many auto turrets to deal with goblin invasions for me by now that it feels cheap

[half imp]

it's funny

[last shard]

Tbh that do be all the reason needed lmao

Should disable OOA too

Just use the Crystal and it spits out a single defender medal

Breaks

[half imp]

no it should just do the ending animation

the failed one

that's it

[crude geode]

Doze is cooking rn

[last shard]

hm, actually one of the annoyances with invasions is just that they can break doors too, and some ammos can also destroy terrain making it terrible to use for bosses...

I wonder if a sort of block safe-zone gen that sets all blocks in range to like, 150% Pick power or something could be good to prevent any accidential damages during excavation or using demo ammos (and making doors not openable by enemies)

[crude geode]

Breaking doors is terraria’s (bad) attempt to make invasions always threatening

[last shard]

might be too much trouble for how niche it would be

[half imp]

I am ALWAYS cooking

[crude geode]

The ammo that destroys terrain is meant to destroy it lmao

[last shard]

I know but like, on one hand that's very useful

On the otherhand it hurts if something messes with aim and you hit your house with it

Or you just like using mass-dig things and don't want to upset a certain threshold

Hells knows fast digs like Celebration Mk2 with that can pretty much null and void a home on misclick

[oblique birch]

just don't use terrain destroying ammos

[half imp]

^

You should just... Not be using them?

[oblique birch]

what is wrong with you actually

[last shard]

Yeah kind of what I was thinking, might just be too niche to honestly suggest

[last shard]

a lot of things really

[oblique birch]

non destroying ammos do the same things without accidentally destroying terrain

[crude geode]

There’s a difference between accidentally right clicking while opening a door and annihilating your home with crystyl crusher, and intentionally putting in the ammo that specifically destroys terrain and firing it with celebration

[last shard]

Tbh I just used to have it on hotbar and have misclicked while reorganizing my inventory with Mk2 once

Have also done this with dynamite from being sleepy

I may be stupid

[crude geode]

Not really the game’s fault atp

[oblique birch]

I think you should get more sleep

[last shard]

maybe

[golden sonnet]

Not the correct usage of this channel, please read the pinned suggestion guidelines

[grave zinc]

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[Add more (optional, non-progression) encrypted schematics]

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[prisma sedge]

Honestly, that's a pretty solid lineup

[keen zodiac]

huge w

[last shard]

I'm excited to see the schematics change most- feels like a lot of the lab stuff is just generally not fleshed out

If they do a turret change though, does that also mean potentially making their function change a little too?

[keen zodiac]

those suggs just got moved to dev server

they're not confirmed to pass yet

[last shard]

I know, I'm just excited to see they're being considered

[severe sparrow]

I love the lab's asthetic
I really want to see more stuff from it

[hollow shell]

A bit of a disorganized suggestion but it's valid I spose

I trust their word that some weapons don't work properly with lock-on. Almost all of them certainly weren't designed with controllers in mind.

[lucid marsh]

Yeah it's kind of confusing but I think I understand what they're saying after looking at it long enough

[mortal tusk]

That’s my bad, first suggestion made lol
Yeah my two playthroughs have been with melee and ranged and the weapon problems I’ve had are with ranged. some ranged weapons Weapons like the railgun and accelerator won’t follow lock on. Other than that yeah calamity works pretty smoothly with controller. Even the add ons do. Hunt of the old god works great.

Weird thing about the bosses is that the calamity bosses are super easy but the normal bosses are very hard. I was able to beat Leviathan with pre plantera gear but I was only able to beat skeleton prime by the skin of my teeth.

[olive saddle]

controllers never happening because calamity needs 800 different keybinds

[lucid marsh]

It might be reduced to 7

Wait actually. This is perfect for a radial menu. Have one of the buttons open a radial menu and pick one of 8 directions for an effect. On controller you just pick a direction with the joystick, on mouse and keyboard the direction is the next direction the noise moves

[half imp]

I actually woke up today thinking about controller support

what a coincidence

[half imp]

realistically we'd just do a radial menu for controller bc vanilla already has that built in, and also you shouldn't need it on PC

The average player should really not need more than

Dash Override
Set Bonus Override
Gravity Swap Override (sometimes)
2 Accessory Ability keys

[whole tundra]

Rage and Adrenaline

[vestal crater]

How tf would cal even add this

tModloader maybe

[whole tundra]

Well there's a controller controls section

Can't keybinds be added to those aswell?

[indigo yacht]

yes

[half imp]

Lock on is the main issue

that'll be a lot of work to fix

@mortal tusk what do you mean by "some bosses being super easy"? Is that actually a controller related thing or was it just... an easy boss?

Also, can you give me at least one example of a weapon incompatible with lock on (so I can look at why and how to fix it)?

[mortal tusk]

Not particularly. I’ve gotten along just fine without all of them

[mortal tusk]

Well it might just be me (I doubt it) but idk. Some bosses I’ve just been able to easily beat when I shouldn’t have. Examples are skeleton before 2nd evil bosses, calamitous clone before skeleton prime, and leviathan before prime. I also haven’t really struggled on calamity bosses. I’ve been playing on death mode btw. Should’ve mentioned that

Lock on definitely makes it easier because I can focus solely on dodging

[half imp]

I think it might just be you honestly, unless there's anything in specific that makes it a lot better

[mortal tusk]

But i don’t think it’s “op”

[half imp]

Yeah, but that's how it is in terraria vanilla too

[mortal tusk]

Yeah might just be lol but for weapons I’d have to go to the wiki rq

I know the titanium railgun and adamantite accelerator don’t follow lock on

There was one more I saw in pre hard mode I gotta find

It was a ranged weapon that you charged that shot a bunch of blue bullets

[indigo yacht]

magna cannon

[mortal tusk]

Yep

[half imp]

Ok perfect

I can use that to figure out why they don't and fix it

[mortal tusk]

Perfect!

Also I’d need to go back and check but I’m like 50% sure the opal striker did that too

Either that or it wasn’t good bc I didn’t use it

[indigo yacht]

it's not very good

[mortal tusk]

Ima look up a video of it

[mortal tusk]

So I use a switch pro controller for Tmod so my rage and adrenaline are set to my D-Pad

[half imp]

I actually did know controller lock on probably didn't work

so it's good to have confirmation and an example bc I didn't have concrete evidence

[mortal tusk]

Other than that the only other key bind that I needed was for the relocater

[mortal tusk]

Yeah lol

Played two full playthroughs and in the middle of one rn so if you have any questions I can help

[worthy lintel]

playing terraria with a controller looks so alien to me... and yet its a normal way to play

im full of keyboard bias

[indigo yacht]

true

keyboard better...

[olive saddle]

k&m is generally better but in this game it can really be either or

[worthy lintel]

to be fair the games i play the most are all keyboard oriented so hueh

experience shapes mind

[indigo yacht]

i play controller games with a keyboard

it can lead to some very funny keybind layouts

[olive saddle]

we must start asking for a lock on nerf for controllers, no hits are too easy

[indigo yacht]

just use a homing weapon

or alternatively the summoner class

[tired haven]

Yeah we already had tools for that

Especially because of MNL making subpar dps homing setups shrimply best

[worthy lintel]

now how do we adapt art attack to controller

[tepid crown]

turn off auto aim

force them to do a circle with the joystick

[zealous aspen]

Why was the ui fix suggestion for the sulph sea toxicity meter denied?

Is it not fixable?

[golden sonnet]

.

[fleet grotto]

Would a suggestion about buffing eidolon wyrms be considered a reversion suggestion

[zealous aspen]

👍

[golden sonnet]

I don't feel strongly either way, but if it was intentional then yeah

[half imp]

controller support done, I'll flag it as finished once it gets to voting

[indigo yacht]

suppose it would depend on what you're arguing for and why

[fleet grotto]

they removed their attacks (ice shards, lightning, etc) and now they're incredibly easy (and boring) to fight. it's literally circle simulator

[indigo yacht]

hm

well, maybe if your argument for reimplementation isn't just a rebuttal to why they removed it, it wouldn't count as reversion?

idk

[fleet grotto]

probably if I worded it as "give them more attacks" instead of specifically reverting it

[indigo yacht]

yeah

[errant wren]

"wyrm variants" that each do like one thing

[indigo yacht]

i can feel an absolutely awful idea coming on

[distant gyro]

its indeed not a reversion if its just more (different) attacks

[zealous aspen]

To be fair, it does look like a bug

Imo

[mortal tusk]

Nah controller feels SO nice

It gives me so much control

Dodging feels good (until you accidentally dash into scals brimstone blast)

I just think that 2d games feel better on controller

[mortal tusk]

Awesome!

[half imp]

honestly if controller had enough keybinds

I'd consider it

[crude geode]

think this might be planned?

someone else can confirm

[tepid crown]

the a&a mage drop? cuz yea it is

[prisma sedge]

I’m kind of interested in how an EoC dash would look on a worm

[fleet grotto]

i feel like i kinda cooked

[keen zodiac]

maybe like infernum dog but faster?

[prisma sedge]

Hmmm, I could see that…

[errant wren]

i kind of envisioned storm weaver slowing down and telegraphing where it would dash to, then kind of "turning into lightning"

if that makes sense for a "dash"

[kind laurel]

Maybe

[half imp]

yes, an A&A mage drop is in the works

[oblique birch]

in the works already? nice I thought I'd be more distant

[indigo yacht]

ngl this just feels stylized and completely pointless

storm weaver is a bad fight

adding a gimmick attack to it will not save it even if it does turn out to actually be good

which i don't really imagine it will, but you never know

[keen zodiac]

how is it this hard to make the only lightning themed boss interesting

it seems like it'd be so easy

[novel belfry]

its fabsol boss design

[indigo yacht]

pretty much

[grave zinc]

@mortal tusk - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Potential Controller Support]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[mortal tusk]

[whole tundra]

I wonder how this will precisely work

[half imp]

stuff now follows the auto target cursor

[river lily]

not true

dragonf olly....

[indigo yacht]

there are so many different names in terraria that aren't real words or that mean something different than their definitions

i don't understand how this argument works

what is a yharon irl

or a providence

[severe sparrow]

a providence is an area of land

[novel belfry]

clasp

[indigo yacht]

providence means something along the lines of "the protective care of God or of nature as a spiritual power", does that mean we should rename it since that's definitely not what the boss is?

[indigo yacht]

thats a province

[severe sparrow]

i realized

[novel belfry]

these arguments are super lame because they don’t address why fab named an enemy a clasper

And that’s because I swore there were other definitions for clasper… yet all I see is shark organ definitions

[tepid crown]

there is no other definition for clasper

[novel belfry]

yes yes I know that I wrote that out

[tepid crown]

u just assume there is since clasp can mean to grasp, and putting -er at the end usually means something that does the words action

[slender creek]

prefecture, the profanity gold dress

[half imp]

and that's where the name came from

[boreal lichen]

another definition for providence is just god

[novel belfry]

ice clasper in this context looks as if it was cobbled together because fab thought the enemy looked like it could grab, and clasper sounded like that

[half imp]

Ice Grasper

Clearly

[polar bison]

its not that its a nonsense word. Thats not my arguement. Im fine with nonsense word names. The issue is that it isnt a nonsense word and its a shark dick

[indigo yacht]

then focus on that

[polar bison]

That was my arguement?

[novel belfry]

it’s technically NOT shark dick, it’s a shark grabber for the… yknow

[indigo yacht]

you're talking about how "it's not a real word in context"

[novel belfry]

elsi I think your misinterpreting the words

[polar bison]

yeah, as in Clasper is not a word in the context of grabbing

its a word in the context if shark penis

Ice Grasper, Frostmaw, Frostbiter, there are better names than ice penis

[novel belfry]

it’s not the penis from what I’ve seen, it’s an organ for male animals to grasp onto females

for Yknow what purpose

[indigo yacht]

this is true

[novel belfry]

just say reproductive organ…

byeah putting that aside Frostmaw is a better name than Ice Clasper

[indigo yacht]

the emphasis is on the fact that it's not a real word, the actual definition is placed there to serve as supporting evidence when it should be the focal point of the argument

[novel belfry]

Frostbiter

[polar bison]

Youre being semantic with it the point is the same

[indigo yacht]

???

[polar bison]

”Clasper means shark penis” is the entire point

youre just misreading my words

[novel belfry]

I think the issue is

“Problem is “Clasper” is not a word in the context…”

[polar bison]

i should have used “that” instead of “the”

[indigo yacht]

and you use it as supporting evidence to the point that "it's not a word", which means it's not the entire point

[novel belfry]

this is a weird statement to read, best update that

[tepid crown]

@polar bison reword your sugg to say smthn like "clasper does not mean what you think it means" instead of using words like context

[novel belfry]

it’s confusing elsi into thinking something entirely wrong

[polar bison]

im right here no ping necessary lol

yeah ill just rephrase it

badoink fixed

[humble scarab]

sounds much better

[whole tundra]

Top 10 things I didn't need to know and regret knowing: #suggestions-posting message

[errant wren]

i start leaving my home state for the first time in my life, and what is the first thing i see on the day that i do?

"yeah lemme go fight the ice uh erm uhhh"

i could have gone at least a few more years before learning that

[grizzled dome]

So! Merriam-Webster lists that as the only definition of the word, but other online dictionaries list other definitions as well.

Including Oxford English Dictionary I think (it doesn't show the full information without paying but the preview seemed to list a more geneic meaning).

[hollow shell]

markedly untrue

But yes indeed it can specifically mean the biological thing

as seen

[errant wren]

so ice clasper's name is only really an "issue" when you have the curse of knowledge

i see

[grizzled dome]

is it worse than a weapon being named the "golden shower"?

[hollow shell]

Given that this is the first time I've heard of this afaik
in like 7 years of me being with the mod

I assume it's not very common knowledge

[hollow shell]

well that's an intentional sex pun

This would be unintentional

also, vanilla vs calamity

[errant wren]

i feel like it depends on how deliberate it is

[grizzled dome]

my point is that if vanilla intentionally includes something worse, this probably isn't a problem.

[echo leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-terraria-mod-calamity-ice-clasper-heart-gif-24442418

[humble scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-terraria-mod-calamity-ice-clasper-heart-gif-24442418

[grizzled dome]

clapser

also, "fetid emesis" if we're talking modded weapon names that are kind of questionable.

...something something universal clapse

[errant wren]

universal clams⁉️

anyways i'll see y'all in like 2 weeks (but probably for real and not a joke)

[indigo yacht]

i knew about it but only bc i really loved sharks as a kid

i thought they were really cute

[novel belfry]

you only need to look at a zebra shark to understand elsi

[indigo yacht]

blacktip reef shark ✨

[idle dagger]

Sharks are splendid

[novel belfry]

Rename Cryonic Ore to Verium

[indigo yacht]

this feels kinda like an srs

it would probably be a balancing nightmare either way though

[kind laurel]

Wdym

[indigo yacht]

idk if it's exactly a rework but it's quite specific

[kind laurel]

Mhm

Okay then

[indigo yacht]

please do not the Daybreak

if deus wasnt a worm and wasnt a pushover then maybe

[kind laurel]

Tbh if Deus is supposed to be harder than Cultist why is he still needed

That’s like if you couldn’t do anything with Golem’s drops until Plantera

[indigo yacht]

well not really

[kind laurel]

Yeahhh mostly basing this off of the recommended progression rather than the actual one

Then again it says Cal Clone is Plantera tier so idk

[indigo yacht]

it's like your first mech boss when you unlock the mythril anvil although it is also more constricted

[indigo yacht]

calamity bosses are notoriously far easier than vanilla ones even on higher difficulties

with the exception of like

pbg

and i would argue scal

[tepid crown]

also like

deus drops and deus unlocks r seperate

[kind laurel]

Hm… I wonder…
Is simply making Astral Bars not require a Manipulator a better idea?

[indigo yacht]

i was going to suggest that actually

[kind laurel]

Yeah that’s fair

[indigo yacht]

i still don't know if it's good at all, but i think it's more reasonable

[novel belfry]

What about making the Astral Beacon act as an Ancient Manipulator?

[fleet grotto]

what....

[indigo yacht]

honestly considering how good stuff like astral armor is i honestly dont know

[kind laurel]

At this point the Fragments should only drop post-Cultist if they’re useless until then anyway

[fleet grotto]

if astral beacon works as an ancient manipulator then

uhh:

[kind laurel]

You get Life Alloy stuff after Ravager

(Broken)

[fleet grotto]

and other things

[fleet grotto]

this isn't related to the conversation

[indigo yacht]

oh yeah fucking ambrosial ampoule post golem

would be funny

[novel belfry]

Astral Bars

add it to HOTE RECIPE

GRAHH

[kind laurel]

It is because of this

[severe sparrow]

Completely unnecessary

[fleet grotto]

you can get astral bars silly

even without ancient manipulatir

rn you can get astral bars

[severe sparrow]

can you make anything with it?

[novel belfry]

im sayinh

[fleet grotto]

nope!

[novel belfry]

add Astral Bars to the HOTE recipe to lock that post-Deus

[indigo yacht]

but why

[fleet grotto]

oh okay

[severe sparrow]

It makes 0 sense

[novel belfry]

IF you go along with my sugg

[fleet grotto]

also that seems unnecessary

and also makes hote worse

[severe sparrow]

Completely unnecessary

[indigo yacht]

honestly i think deus drops are fine where they are

the furthest i would go is to maybe suggest that they make more items directly dropped instead of crafted but at the same time who cares

[kind laurel]

Would also make True Biome Blade and Ambrosial Amputee after Scoria

[severe sparrow]

Maybe the Beacon could be used to craft Astral equipment

and nothing else

[kind laurel]

At least requiring Deus makes it challenge

[kind laurel]

That’s an option like Elsi said

[novel belfry]

honestly im thinking of giving more to the beacon

[indigo yacht]

do we really need to make a worm boss the barrier to winning hardmode instantly

[kind laurel]

I mean it only “skips” one boss

ML is the same

[indigo yacht]

if you can get astral armor and all that after killing one boss then you might as well have skipped like a good 80% of the other bosses pre deus

[fleet grotto]

?

[kind laurel]

For some reason I thought he was post-Golem

idk how

[fleet grotto]

lo

the earlier you kill deus the more you get out of it

[severe sparrow]

you can fight Deus as soon as you get access to the altar

[fleet grotto]

this is why premech deus is the meta!

[severe sparrow]

not to forget
you can get a weapon powerful enough to annihilate Deus pre boss

[fleet grotto]

there's a pre boss weapon that can do that???

[severe sparrow]

Atlantis.

[indigo yacht]

call me lame but i dont think we should be giving the summoner hybrid ranger/mage post ml alternative at the beginning of hardmode

[fleet grotto]

is that pre boss...

[indigo yacht]

it's from anahita iirc

[severe sparrow]

You can fight Anahita first

and get it before any other boss

[fleet grotto]

i don't wonder what anahita is

[severe sparrow]

(since she spawns pre boss)

[fleet grotto]

she might be a boss

if you kill anahita you ARENT PRE BOSS ANYMORE!!!

[severe sparrow]

true

I shouldve said pre hardmode

Deus is an absolute joke

[indigo yacht]

ok what phm weapon do you get to annihilate anahita

[tepid crown]

flamelash

[severe sparrow]

Stuff like Aqua Scepter and Flamelash

[fleet grotto]

are we sure those annihilate anahita

[indigo yacht]

i dont think those annihilate anahita

[severe sparrow]

They dont, but they work against her

[frail fox]

(Levi is also a factor)

[fleet grotto]

hmmm... Nah

[severe sparrow]

Aqua Scepter does decent

[fleet grotto]

ivr never heard of a "leviathan"

[frail fox]

You’re far better off using metal monstrosity on AS and going from there

[severe sparrow]

so the summon weapon and another weapon from AS (prob the Sea's Searing) would help

[indigo yacht]

when in doubt abuse post skeletron rogue

[kind laurel]

Soooooo
Should I edit the suggestion to
Make Astral Bars Not Require an Ancient Manipulator

[severe sparrow]

Drunk world: Post Skeletron? Heh, you mean pre boss? (you can get Metal Monstrosity pre boss in Drunk world)

[indigo yacht]

secret seeds do not count for balance ever

[severe sparrow]

that is true

i know that

[indigo yacht]

thank god tbh otherwise mll would be nerfed into a ground

[tepid crown]

struggling on dog? just go in a gfb world and use lacerator!

[severe sparrow]

Why?

[indigo yacht]

because they're super strong

[severe sparrow]

ah yes, 4000% more damage on dog

[severe sparrow]

because of the b o u l d e r s and 360 deathbeam?

[indigo yacht]

what

moon lord legs

[severe sparrow]

and you cant use RoD to dodge the laser since that summons Jared

[indigo yacht]

the preboss leggings item

[severe sparrow]

i know

that is pretty good

why do you bring it up?

[indigo yacht]

it has like 48% jump speed 20% movement speed and 4 defense

it's cracked

[tepid crown]

its amazing

its like magiluminescence and frog leg in one item

[indigo yacht]

that's better mobility than like basically everything until halfway through hardmode

or later

[severe sparrow]

it isnt worth using past SG

+3 defense
Increases the maximum safe falling distance by 10 tiles, jump speed by 1.8, and jump duration by 1
Increases movement speed by 25%

[indigo yacht]

only because it's an armor piece, if it was an accessory... dear lord

[severe sparrow]

you were exaggerating heavily

although

it does give 5% more movement speed

[indigo yacht]

??? where

[severe sparrow]

alright fine

you werent

but

it is DEFINITELY NOT worth using in Hardmode

[indigo yacht]

i didn't say that

[severe sparrow]

this?

[indigo yacht]

uh huh

you get something with better mobility until like halfway through hardmode, pre boss

that was my point

[severe sparrow]

alright

[indigo yacht]

so they would be nerfed heavily so that they weren't so strong for mobility

[severe sparrow]

yep

i know

does calamity add anything in the Ocean?

[indigo yacht]

wdym

there's anahita, there's a couple new enemies, uhhh

[severe sparrow]

i seee

[indigo yacht]

some of the enemies have items that you can only get from them so they're effectively locked to the ocean

i think

[severe sparrow]

got it

actually, from what i know

the only thing locked there is Anahita drops

[indigo yacht]

oh ok nvm then

[severe sparrow]

and one very forgettable TM weapon

there is literally nothing from the Astral Infection post ML

[indigo yacht]

there's a lot of nothing post ml

[severe sparrow]

same with the evil biomes

[indigo yacht]

yeah

i was going to mention them

[severe sparrow]

how should i word a suggestion like that

[indigo yacht]

I don't think the astral infection is intended to be one of the... evil? corrupting? sickness? biomes

[severe sparrow]

Although, in the lore, it literally says that it spreads and infects worlds

kinda weird it doesnt spread

[indigo yacht]

ok I can't find the dev conversations i was remembering but maybe this is decent

[severe sparrow]

Still should have something in it post ML

what should I change the title to

[indigo yacht]

no, i totally agree, i just imagined someone else would bring it up if i didnt

[severe sparrow]

got it

[indigo yacht]

just "the evil biomes and the astral infection" or something

[severe sparrow]

done

[tepid crown]

@hazy lion just

no

[hazy lion]

What?

[crude geode]

adding an entire boss is not feasible for suggestions

[hazy lion]

Oh mb

[crude geode]

all good

I'd recommend reading up on the suggestion rules in the document pinned here or posting

[hazy lion]

Kk

[grave zinc]

@kind laurel - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give Artemis/Apollo a Magic Weapon drop]

It has been add to the devs' to-do list and planned for implementation!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[half imp]

Has been WIP for a while

don't know when it will be finished but it's on the list

[indigo yacht]

woah fancy new message

[half imp]

that's not a new message

[indigo yacht]

oh

[half imp]

it's just almost nobody ever bothers to 🛠️ react stuff

[indigo yacht]

lol

[novel belfry]

I love making easy to implement Suggs like #suggestions-voting message

that are also extremely simple ideas that a layperson might think, “yeah that makes sense”

[obsidian nova]

Where is this from?

[obsidian nova]

Yeah, especially these damn [[Clowns Around Town]]

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Clowns_Around_Town?action=edit&redlink=1

[obsidian nova]

...okay I didn't know that's how this works

[north oracle]

thank you wikibot

[glad tundra]

typo smh

[crude geode]

What

Oh

“It has been add”

[foggy plaza]

@strange lagoon

should be added to the game

[sharp mica]

Can they're be some calamity posters or figures? Any decorations? My room looks like a prison 😭

[drowsy plank]

we got mousepads and plushies

[drowsy plank]

i mean you are allowed to make an actual suggestion about this but unsurprisingly i imagine figures would prolly be a bit logistically hard to do lol

[sharp mica]

I'm aware 😞

I think I'll do just in hopes tho

[sharp mica]

Also PLUSHIES? WERE?

I checked info and found an empty site for shirts and a site with mousepads but nothing else

[idle dagger]

I forgot if I made a merch suggestion or not before

[drowsy plank]

they were limited run, again, for obvious logistical reasons

you missed out

[sharp mica]

Ah

Hopefully they do some sort of thing again, even if limited time. Would definitely like to get some decorations

[strange lagoon]

true

[foggy plaza]

true

[frail fox]

Suggestion seems a bit broad

[hollow shell]

@limber ridge Report issues in #1052323733961977947

Sugg channel isn't for bugs

[drowsy plank]

please fix all bugs in the game right now 😇

i dont get what people expect making posts like this, not even this suggestion in particular, like, just for games in general; if it isn't a bug the devs already know about, then make a bug report, and if they do then like... idk what do you think they are doing?

[hollow shell]

Don't worry too much about it
They're a brand new server join, they don't know how all our systems work

[drowsy plank]

no i know i was making a more blanket statement

this isnt the first time ive seen a post like this and i just never get the motivation like if you cant provide a log what is a dev supposed to do about it

[hollow shell]

Without a game developer perspective it may not be obvious how necessary something like a log file is

:shrug:

[drowsy plank]

fair

i just see it the same way as going into an auto repair shop and not having the car with you

very silly

[royal tapir]

It's more like going into an auto repair shop with every warning light on and thinking the fix is just to turn the lights off

[drowsy plank]

TRUE

[tepid crown]

wdym theres clearly a "fix multiplayer" checkbox yall arent clicking

[golden sonnet]

Funny enough we did find something kinda like this for a very select set of weapons, but for the most part multiplayer sucks to fix

[keen zodiac]

can you atleast fix skeletron prime and eol despawning constantly

[indigo yacht]

no sorry its not a bug its a feature

[golden sonnet]

Primes are already fixed last I checked, haven't gotten reports of eol last I checked

[indigo yacht]

iirc she mightve despawned during my 3 player mp pt whenever the other two were far away and the person being targeted died

but also like

they were far away

[dense locust]

thats just normal despawn ai

lol

[indigo yacht]

mhm

[dusk pagoda]

@sharp mica VINYL AS WELL, still waiting on the second one with the hardmode bosses music

[sharp mica]

You're very much right

[indigo yacht]

sulphurous armor just giving the bubble to other accessory double jumps was something i thought of too

because i hate it

[grim tusk]

SO TRUE

[indigo yacht]

shade not moderator anymore?

[grim tusk]

no

left for my mental health (might return)

some people here are fucking nasty and did cause sanity dmg

[vocal moth]

wait so are we getting controller support

cause if so that would be so awesome sauce dude

i can play terraria on my legion go

but calamity

[grave zinc]

@wanton bluff - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Shrine Locator Items]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@upbeat token - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Replace the "Don't get cocky!" line on Devourer of Gods]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@indigo yacht - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add more (optional, non-progression) encrypted schematics]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@alpine dawn - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give Leviathan & Anahita more Team Attacks]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@alpine dawn - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give The Jungle Plague more presence]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[indigo yacht]

awwwwww not again

i still am genuinely curious to know why

[indigo yacht]

that's fair, hope you feel better

[grim tusk]

tbh I want to nerf these things to make em feel less as must haves

[wraith plaza]

I'm actually confused as to why the mushroom shrine has three truffle worms

[indigo yacht]

funny

[distant gyro]

for fun

[grim tusk]

they are a reward for finding a hard to find shrine, if you had an easy way to get em it, it would be way too easy

[grim tusk]

Fabsol thought it would be funny

[wraith plaza]

I see

[grim tusk]

altho you are getting mauled if you try pre-hm duke

[distant gyro]

its nice and silly and if not a challenge, temptation

[distant gyro]

hey it was someone else's idea

[indigo yacht]

so basically rod of discord all over again - very useful piece pf equipment that's locked behind a very luck-based grind

💔

[grim tusk]

this is a case of entering a high lvl area in a game

[grim tusk]

thus why i want to nerf all of em

cuz they for sure as hell arent must haves

[royal tapir]

It's good niche gear

They're in a fine spot

[indigo yacht]

idk how niche i would call it

well, of the ones that are actually good

[distant gyro]

like all of them are niche

[royal tapir]

All that really has to be done is allowing a way to get duplicate of the shrine items for multiplayer

[distant gyro]

bar granite maybe

[grim tusk]

new granite is more of an exploration tool

its not like old granite which was comedy busted

[indigo yacht]

oh it got reworked

[grim tusk]

yes rn its unstable coil RoR

before it was ‘on crit spawn projectiles’

[distant gyro]

idk i think granite is just a balanced accessory

[grim tusk]

yea rn its fine

old granite was busted even post-Game til it got hardcapped and basically shot in a dark alley

[indigo yacht]

wait which accessory are we talking about?

[grim tusk]

Unstable Granite Core or whatever its called now

[distant gyro]

of the bunch the "best" one is really situationally luxors and even then that's the easiest shrine to find

[grim tusk]

2nd easiest

trinket of chi shrine is literally free

often spawns close to spawn
has an obvious tunnel

[royal tapir]

I would argue evil shrine is easier to find

Than desert

[grim tusk]

maybe Crimson shrine

[indigo yacht]

oh, you're referring the like the pre 2.0.2 version, i thought you meant it was reworked again and was quite confused

[distant gyro]

evil is either out in the open first chasm you find or its just gone

[hearty yew]

who suggested more merch

[grim tusk]

yep thats the case for corruption

[distant gyro]

or its shoved 4 chasms off

[indigo yacht]

ugc kinda demolishes worms, especially with debuff inflictions

[hearty yew]

not because I need to pulp them but because I'm not even sure this makes sense as a suggestion

[indigo yacht]

if it weren't for that I'd say it's balanced

[grim tusk]

@sharp mica

[hearty yew]

I'm guessing he suggested it

In any case the point I was going to make is that we're already actively working on multiple angles for more merch

We can't say what it is yet but it'll exist

So I don't know what to do with this suggestion

We are already doing this and can't do it faster

[tepid crown]

prob just a 👍 react then

[alpine dawn]

Epic win

[oblique birch]

Holy that's a lot of status updates!

[kind laurel]

Question

I’ve looked around and can’t find a straight answer

What do the reactions in the #suggestions-voting channel mean?

[tepid crown]

pins

[kind laurel]

Like ⭐️ seems to be support

But what about 🏁?

[tepid crown]

check the pins

[kind laurel]

Okay

[humble scarab]

you gotta scroll near bottom

[kind laurel]

Oh thank you!

[sharp mica]

Wha

[grim tusk]

@sharp mica basically its a 👍

[sharp mica]

Let's go

More merchandise my room won't be a prison anymore

[half imp]

sulphur jump is also an offensive tool

removing it removes that part of the armor niche

I already moved Statigel to be where it should be

But left sulphur first due to the bubble

[fleet grotto]

@prime zephyr Formatted incorrectly

[drowsy plank]

honestly they wrote it with the correct format, it seems like they literally just forgot to press enter once

[crude geode]

MORE post dog weapons and accessories

[drowsy plank]

🔥 🖊️

1 billion items to post-DoG

[fleet grotto]

It feels like just one big title/body and no title

[drowsy plank]

i meant they prolly meant to write

"Silva weapons and accessories.
It’s weird that there’s no magic or summoner Silva weapons even though that’s what her armor buffs."

[fleet grotto]

Is that technically valid?

[drowsy plank]

the title is "silva weapons and accessories" and the body is "it's weird that... buffs"

correct formatting

[fleet grotto]

As in the suggestion itself

[drowsy plank]

still a dogshit suggestion but like, it is valid formatting and arguably reasoning as well

yeah one could argue some kind of consistency

[fleet grotto]

Reasoning isn't "it's cool!"

[drowsy plank]

yeah and that pretty much makes it valid

i still think it is a Very Bad Idea

and it will not get any traction

but they can suggest it

[dense locust]

500 stars incoming

[prime zephyr]

Correct

That’s what I meant

[kind laurel]

I mean... Ethereal Talisman and Nucleogenesis could use the Feathers and Mush instead of Luminite and Galactica Singularities

Probably wouldn't work bc the sprites would likely need a change

imo Nucleo is one of the most visually appealing accessories in Calamity

[echo leaf]

Nucleogenesis does have a name that... vaguely connects to biology so including new life in the recipe can make a bunch of sense

[indigo yacht]

nerd

[prime zephyr]

Exactly, that’s what I’m saying

[echo leaf]

brother that ain't even close to the start of it

[lucid marsh]

No, that's not biology, that's nuclear physics

I think

[indigo yacht]

i mean it can be either

both cells and atoms have nuclei

and related features

the connection is a bit fraught though

[lucid marsh]

I'm pretty sure Nucleogenesis is a term used in physics to describe the time shortly after the big bang when it got "cold" enough for atomic nuclei to form

[half imp]

calamity beating Wikipedia

(the Wikipedia is actually on nucleosynthesis

[fleet grotto]

Comical

[grim tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-faust-honestly-quite-incredible-limbus-don-quixote-gif-4386001904645512085

[olive saddle]

honestly quite incredible

honestly quite incredible

honestly quite incredible

-# honestly quite incredible

[glass arch]

hi faust

[vagrant spindle]

those aren't even calamity songs 😭

[errant cradle]

@magic nymph These are Infernum-specific tracks and won't be implemented into the mod
Inferior Fabrications is only used in the main mod because a placeholder song was needed and it was really the only fitting song that existed at the time. The other two you are suggesting to be implemented were created afterwards and we have no interest in implementing them cause they aren't ours and there's not much reason to seeing as Inferior Fabrications isn't the permanent Exo Mechs song

[magic nymph]

[worn elk]

has the exo mechs theme changed

[frail mantle]

no

[worn elk]

the last time I played calamity it was inferior fabrications

[humble scarab]

zenith one is in infernum mod music

in calamity its still inferior fabrications

[worn elk]

I'm guessing calamity can't just add songs from other mods xd

[humble scarab]

im curious if they couldnt just use infernum music mod

or that wont work without infernum?

[vagrant spindle]

it should work without infernum

[vagrant spindle]

they could if given permission
but why replace a placeholder with another placeholder

[keen zodiac]

because it's significantly better

[worn elk]

I'm so used to the current theme that anything else would feel strange for me

[vagrant spindle]

thats not how placeholders work

its meant to be left there until the official theme is made

[tepid crown]

also better is subjective

[magic nymph]

I think we will get GTA 6 before exo mechs theme
No hate towards CD music, I know he is quite busy these days

[vagrant spindle]

now that its delayed i doubt it

[upbeat tundra]

A Murasama poster would get DMCA’d, no?

[olive saddle]

yes

[serene tendon]

With every other track. yes, but for some reason this one only activates if playing the actual infernum difficulty. It's stupid tbh

[indigo yacht]

just make an override mod

it's not that hard

you can just copy and paste code from like, infernum itself honestly

even if you don't know how to do it on your own

[humble scarab]

also it would be quicker than waiting for the update

[indigo yacht]

true

[slender creek]

i've tried and i didn't get anywhere 😭

[indigo yacht]

.

[slender creek]

....yes, but there's calls and such to take account of that may or may not come up with errors because it's trying to process code that isn't there

[indigo yacht]

it is really not complicated at all

if you dont count the accessing calamity, then it's 3 lines of code

that's it

admittedly limited but it does what is asked of it

[indigo yacht]

unrelated but i do wonder the limitations of sceneeffects, they seem quite handy but i wouldn't know if there's not a better way to achieve what they do

[slender creek]

3 lines of code is still code that not everyone will be able to figure out at first

[indigo yacht]

that's what the tModLoader documentation website is for!

or the discord server

[slender creek]

yeah no, that's a fair point

[indigo yacht]

also thats why i posted the tmod file here

just dont enable it without calamity enabled or it will instantly crash your game

@dense frost please read the suggestions document in the channel description/pins

[dense frost]

Oh shii

Mb

[indigo yacht]

this breaks the "no specific item suggestions" rule

also it doesn't have reasoning but i digress

[half imp]

this now has no context to what it means

I genuinely do not know what the suggestion is wanting

[golden sonnet]

Yeah, I assume they mean the furniture stations?

[dense frost]

Yeah?

Idk

[dense frost]

Basically more recipes for underused crafting stations. I'm bad at describing things depending on context

[half imp]

well you'll probably need to clarify the post itself if you want it to get anywhere

[drowsy plank]

you want me to flag it until they edit it?

[dense frost]

Okay

.

Idk

I'll just leave it there and see what happems

[indigo yacht]

it will most likely be flagged for being unclear and then deleted along with other flagged suggestions after the two day posting period

[dense frost]

Alright

I don't know how to explain it better than "underused crafting stations get more recipes" but I am kinda starting to feel hesitant on that idea now

What is the exclamation mark for?

I'm kinda new to this

[indigo yacht]

ok so when you said "get more recipes", where exactly are they coming from? are you saying they should add a bunch of new items into the game that have recipes at that station? are you saying they should redistribute recipes from stations that have a lot to stations that have less? you need to clarify

[indigo yacht]

thats the flag

check pins i think

[dense frost]

Ahh

[indigo yacht]

suggestions are encouraged not to be super specific but you don't want to be super broad either

they're about solving problems after all

[dense frost]

Idek man

Wth was I even saying

Just get rid of it

Idc

Thanks for the help tho

Much appreciated

[indigo yacht]

i have the urge to make the dumbest suggestion of all time

[dense frost]

Hm?

[half imp]

do it