Like combining it with terragon or omega blue
#suggestions-discussion
exotic gyro
tardy geyser
exo armor could be hallowed upgrade fr, both are after mechs
Seriously though, unique armor set bonuses would be better than just hallowed again
exotic gyro
Yeah but we could combine hallowed with other armours to get their bonuses also
spice stream
they should make every damage tick have a 1/25 chance of instantly killing you
vestal crater
They should make you delete terraria if you play terraria
rugged belfry
These are terrible ideas
vestal crater
Wooosh
humble scarab
These are terrible ideas
These are great ideas for getfixedboi seed
cold cosmos
These are great ideas for getfixedboi seed
No god please it’s already impossible enough
golden sonnet
I am willing to make it worse
exotic gyro
I am willing to make it worse
What u wanna do?
half imp
I am willing to make it worse
Me too
random hound
These are great ideas for getfixedboi seed
they should make all enemies have huge hitboxes and tiny hurtboxes (aka impossible to hit them but really easy for them to hit you)
serene tendon
I am willing to make it worse
You could give Moon Lord something, all he really has rn is the vanilla moon boulders
golden sonnet
I would consider it, but that would also mean I would need to touch ML's code
serene tendon
I would consider it, but that would also mean I would need to touch ML's code
Maybe just make the deathray make a super loud vine boom or something then, Idk lol. Getfixedboi is where random nonsense is made real, after all.
Unless that's also hard, Idk I'm not a coder
tepid crown
hunter potion
ok but does hunter potion notify u in a non specific direction that a certain off screen thing is close by
exactly
random hound
ok but does hunter potion notify u in a non specific direction that a certain of...
no actually the distance past the edge of your screen where enemies can spawn is not very far
cold cosmos
I would consider it, but that would also mean I would need to touch ML's code
Make the deathray a reverse deathray where only one sliver on the screen doesn’t have a hitbox
dense locust
satanist mode providence laser
golden sonnet
have you played GFB? the laser is already pretty much impossible to dodge
you pretty much need empress or betsy
exotic gyro
Make King Slime the endgame boss in GFB
grave zincBOT
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novel belfry
oh, that got in?
glad tundra
#suggestions-posting message this is already happening
gilded citrus
This is whata planned to happen iirc @mint portal
coral carbon
This is whata planned to happen iirc <@473539364186619905>
Interesting
tardy geyser
Not quite what the suggestion is asking for though.
dusty path
This is whata planned to happen iirc <@473539364186619905>
So, like, if trying to activate Revengeance on Master mode, Death will be activated instead?
gilded citrus
Probably
cold cosmos
have you played GFB? the laser is already pretty much impossible to dodge
I have in fact played GFB
All of it
Pain and suffering
hollow shell
This is whata planned to happen iirc <@473539364186619905>
The sugg is asking for even greater consolidation
Down to just 3 difficulties
which may or may not be extremely overstepping
distant gyro
collapse to just classic rev death is quite limiting id say
coral carbon
This is whata planned to happen iirc <@473539364186619905>
I think that this system is pretty good
Wait, isn't it how Fargo's Souls already does it?
Master+Eternity = Masochist
gilded citrus
Wait, isn't it how Fargo's Souls already does it?
Pretty sure
coral carbon
After that goes through, rename MasoDeath to Malice 
tepid crown
Wait, isn't it how Fargo's Souls already does it?
yea except maso is locked behind one finished eternity pt
gilded citrus
After that goes through, rename MasoDeath to Malice <:clueless:10642985086534329...
Lol
gilded citrus
yea except maso is locked behind one finished eternity pt
iirc they removed that
tepid crown
they did?
coral carbon
Yea
tepid crown
then yea it will literally just be the same
fleet grotto
This is whata planned to happen iirc <@473539364186619905>
legendary now has malice. welcome back
-# /j
indigo yacht
"revengeance is very similar to expert anyways" no?
it just isn't
so many mechanics are changed or introduced in both normal gameplay and boss fights
rev is not just expert+
also how would master items make it easier i was under the impression they were all just relics and pets
gilded citrus
also how would master items make it easier i was under the impression they were ...
Theres some mounts in there
indigo yacht
ah
goat skull is literally just blessed apple
hexed branch is an advantage, sure
i think the others are just bad though
fleet grotto
tried it out and the dark mage tome is actually quite fun to use
lavish condor
toy tank's kinda fun too
indigo yacht
but are they actually helpful
like do they confer a notable advantage that you can't replicate or exceed with non-master items
lavish condor
I don't think so
fleet grotto
like do they confer a notable advantage that you can't replicate or exceed with ...
in vanilla at least, the tome was actually quite usable
im not sure how well it'd fare in calamity though
since base speed buffs
kindred creek
How hard would it be for calamity to add a pitty system/smart RNG? It’s done in a lot of games, where basically to make the player feel good, you’re guaranteed to have something happen after a certain number of tries. Obviously hidden from the player. Could I suggest this?
indigo yacht
would probably break the scope rule
I've always thought about making a mod to do that, just track how many attempts and make it so that you cannot exceed the intended max number before getting an enemy drop (for example if it's a 1% drop you would having increasing odds of getting it as you got closer - on your 99th kill you would have a 50% chance to drop it and your 100th would be 100%)
1 - (1/p - a)/(1/p - a + 1)
if a is attempts and p is the drop chance
and ofc it resets when you get a drop
drowsy plank
feel like we got something about this before and it didnt pass but idr
frail fox
RoD pity
gilded citrus
Thata just putting wizard in hallowed
indigo yacht
true
my main problem with it is the fact that usually it would have the potential to very much change the "balance" of farming
gaunt needle
What if we calamity adds the opposite of pity system
indigo yacht
if you dont hit the chance on your first attempt you will never ever get it
gaunt needle
So if you don't get the drop you want in like 2x the amount of tries, it will just never drop
And call it "malice system"
crude geode
I call it, the fogbound
tired haven
So if you don't get the drop you want in like 2x the amount of tries, it will ju...
Thats called negativity bias and its already in 
grim tusk
@mint portal already planned in a different way
and i ofc get beaten to it and should’ve backread for more
indigo yacht
The sugg is asking for even greater consolidation
Down to just 3 difficulties
@grim tusk
oh
deep cape
They should add malort to the Drunk Princess’s shop
errant wren
addition to gfb: drinking any alcohol gets you drunk in real life
this is totally within the realm of possibility
coral carbon
How hard would it be for calamity to add a pitty system/smart RNG? It’s done in ...
You don't even have to hide it in some cases
Case in point: Hypixel Skyblock's many RNG Meters
golden sonnet
@kindred creek a 10% drop would mean you have a ~66% chance to get it in 10 kills, it doesn't really matter but saying "should have got it in 10" is not very accurate and a bit misleading
kindred creek
That’s per player, with approximately 2/3 players getting it in 10 kills. In a per boss kill, it would be 1 in 10.
golden sonnet
yeah?
kindred creek
Changed my post to reflect per boss kill.
Why is my post flagged? What rule did it break.
crude geode
@royal tapir explanation needed
royal tapir
Too broadly scoped
opal holly
If it's about one of the guaranteed drops like how you get 2 weapons from moonlord's treasure bags you could remove gotten item from list of possible drops until all of them drop
prisma sedge
<@362319277900038144> a 10% drop would mean you have a ~66% chance to get it in ...
Wait, so is 10% not synonymous with 1 in 10?
tepid crown
it is, but 10 chances of 10% does not mean it will be gotten
glass arch
Wait, so is 10% not synonymous with 1 in 10?
it is
except probability doesnt directly equate to how long it takes to get something
you can get a 1% drop in like 2 kills if you're lucky or you might need to kill 10,000 things to get it
its a 10% drop but that does not mean you will always get it after at most 10 kills
golden sonnet
Wait, so is 10% not synonymous with 1 in 10?
if you do a 10% chance 10 times, you have a 66% chance of getting at least one
a set chance multiple times is not additive
drowsy plank
also 1 in 10 is just 1/10 which is still just 10%
i understand what you meant by that but that's still not the right way to do it
what you're thinking of would be a 100% chance in 10 attempts
which is much different
prisma sedge
Huh, that's...interesting
prisma sedge
i understand what you meant by that but that's still not the right way to do it
Also I guess what I meant was as in "one out of every ten", which at least reads as the same thing
royal tapir
0.9^10 = 0.3487
glass arch
the graph for drop chances is something like 1-(0.9^x) where x is the number of attempts
vital grotto
Had a couple ideas for old prehm vanilla accessories that could use some love
Radar: Creates periodic highlights for enemies like a weaker hunter potion.
glass arch
the graph for drop chances is something like 1-(0.9^x) where x is the number of ...
meaning the probability approaches 1 but does not ever equal 1
vital grotto
Compass: Makes a needle display point in the direction of the nearest chest.
Depth Meter: increases mining speed at lower elevations.
Metal Detector: Periodically highlights valuables, like a lesser Spelunker effect.
Water Walking Boots (& Upgrades): Allows walking on lava and increases speed walking on liquids.
drowsy plank
Water Walking Boots (& Upgrades): Allows walking on lava and increases speed wal...
...isnt this already what obsidian water walking boots do
or at least lava waders
fleet grotto
not the speed though!
drowsy plank
regardless, this sounds like stuff that should be in another small utility mod or something, not something for calamity to handle
tepid crown
also compass would just be
extremely strong
thats just a fairy but constantly with u
if u get lucky with one early on u can just get all the chest items immediately
vital grotto
yeah okay so obsidian water walking should also do that
drowsy plank
ok so lava waders- yeah
honestly maybe they should if obsidian skin + water walking works though
vital grotto
you only need water walking potion to walk on lava
just don't dip below the surface
drowsy plank
Compass: Makes a needle display point in the direction of the nearest chest.
why the hell would compass do this anyway
metal detector is right there and already locates chests im pretty sure
vital grotto
it does
but it doesn't show the direction
if compass is considered too strong the arrow could be limited by a distance
errant wren
compass multiples horizontal speed and acceleration
vital grotto
also to be clear these effects would only work when equipped
being in the inventory just provides information
drowsy plank
what's the point
errant wren
early-game shenanigans probably
errant wren
that is true
vital grotto
calamity reworks several vanilla items with little to no viability
drowsy plank
not the point
vital grotto
also has been putting an emphasis on improving prehm the past few years
errant wren
the only thing i can see this "fixing" is making the early game potentially faster (???)
vital grotto
it adds a new way to hunt for chests
errant wren
not... that it's slow
drowsy plank
that's something calamity chooses to do, for suggestions you need to have a problem you're trying to tackle, otherwise someone is just going to say that you could make this your own small mod
glass arch
it adds a new way to hunt for chests
"new way" no
drowsy plank
there's no reason for calamity specifically to add this
glass arch
that just makes every chest a beeline
telling someone exactly where something is is not adding a new way to hunt for said thing
it in fact is adding a new way to not hunt for said thing
errant wren
it in fact is adding a new way to *not* hunt for said thing
it would just be spelunker but different if anything
glass arch
it would just be spelunker but different if anything
and hell even then
we already HAVE spelunker potion on an accessory
tepid crown
yea it is
glass arch
we already HAVE spelunker potion on an accessory
sure its hardmode but like
vital grotto
the compass effect is not spelunker though
glass arch
it is functionally identical for the purpose of finding chests
vital grotto
it helps find chests but it's not functionally identical
glass arch
it does not help find the chests it just tells you where the chest is
vital grotto
if you get close enough it would point you in the direction of some offscreen
glass arch
that is not adding new ways to hunt for chests its adding new ways to not explore
vital grotto
still posting it
tepid crown
to make u walk on lava
wait nvm i had angel treads on lmao
glass arch
still posting it
which breaks rule 5 of the suggestion document, "DON'T: Specific Item or Rework Suggestions"
vital grotto
was not an issue the last time I made a similar suggestion
cold cosmos
Calamity Discord basic reading comprehension challenge (impossible)
vital grotto
fleet grotto
i believe that has actual reasoning
drowsy plank
this one was really on the edge
i remember arguing a lot about if that should've even been let in
i think we argued that it was fine to ask for buffs to these accessories because they felt like filler, but you should not have included the specific effects when explaining it
or specific implementations
you ignored us but we just didn't care and it didn't pass anyway so it really didn't matter at the end of the day
vital grotto
what if I give them 5% crit
?
indigo yacht
informational accessories are a weird case anyways
if you made them just normal items with no accessory functionality nobody would bat an eye
vital grotto
there is also the marginal benefit of using them for reforge bonuses earlygame
tardy geyser
uh watch gives +15% crit based on how close it is to high noon
vital grotto
uh watch gives +15% crit based on how close it is to high noon
is that a calamity addition?
tardy geyser
no, im just joking
half imp
would be fire
errant wren
having metal detector and lifeform analyzer equipped increases drops from those enemies (idfk)
half imp
Equipping Fish Finder causes sharks to spawn randomly even on land
errant wren
having a watch and a sextant shows you "true time"
which would be used for knowing when random events would happen obviously
vital grotto
you aren't against stat buffs to info accessories?
errant wren
we're mostly joking
reforges can go on them which is the only real reason you would actually equip them
half imp
Step stool being buffed is about as far as I'll go personally
vital grotto
I had a funny idea that stepping stool could be timed to actually stand on top of enemies but that would get nuked here lmao
errant wren
hey actually can you jump higher when using the step stool because of the little height you're at, or is that not a thing?
i never bothered to actually check
vital grotto
doesn't make all that much difference either way
verbal aspen
hey actually can you jump higher when using the step stool because of the little...
yeah
errant wren
doesn't make all that much difference either way
1.5 blocks of extra height when you're not moving is super important, actually
indigo yacht
inventory space dead
ok fair
but like, when your only purpose for being equipped is to save inventory space
crude geode
And for like 4 defense early game
vital grotto
exactly the point of my suggestion
glass arch
they dont need to have stats
they dont need to give bonuses
their existence is defined by being filler bullshit that serves to be made into shellphone
warm juniper
your only purpose is the shellphone. you were made to fulfill the shellphone. you will be nothing but a material for the shellphone.
poor shellphone components
vital grotto
a lot of calamity's content didn't need reworking either and yet they did because it made things more interesting
indigo yacht
do you have any examples of these reworks
vital grotto
the entire wulfrum rework for one
vital grotto
there's also the numerous buffs and additions to all the vanilla weapons and armors
which you didn't need
they worked fine as is
but it made things more interesting
indigo yacht
vanilla weapons doesn't work as an example because calamity merely buffs them to be viable instead of reworking them like you're suggesting, but vanilla armor reworks are closer
vital grotto
all the hardmode ore weapons were given additional effects beyond stat boosts
frail fox
(Those are also being removed anyway)
vital grotto
vanilla weapons doesn't work as an example because calamity merely buffs them to...
adamantite slows enemies on hits, set bonus increases defense with damage, mythril decreases enemy contact damage and armor set releases mythril flares on hit, cobalt decreases enemy defense and armor increases move speed, not to mention the bonuses to all the prehardmode ore armors
indigo yacht
(Those are also being removed anyway)
good riddance
vital grotto
why
indigo yacht
adamantite slows enemies on hits, set bonus increases defense with damage, mythr...
ok tbh i forgot these existed but i want to point out half of these are armor set bonuses
and also most of the changes just... suck
with the exception of orichalcum because they're explicitly designed to synergize with the armor which is at the very least interesting
drowsy plank
i honestly liked the effects
indigo yacht
the other changes are all arbitrary and random besides palladium for a similar reason only it sort of anti-synergizes with its armor set
drowsy plank
made them feel more like alternative options than just duplicates
but i think the new design philo is to make them feel different?
which is mostly different usetimes
so like one is fast and one is slow
stuff like that
indigo yacht
the other changes are all arbitrary and random besides palladium for a similar r...
10% less contact damage for 10 seconds is... okay enough i guess, but on mythril gear? why?
wasnt mythril supposed to be the damage armor set? what does this have to do with that?
anyways as i said none of them are viable to begin with
half imp
~~and also aren't basically none of them remotely viable~~
Cobalt is broken
25% less defense permanently
Hit once and you're good
royal tapir
That was changed in 2.0.4.2
half imp
Nope
It was supposed to be
But nobody actually made the timer end the MiscDefenseLoss
I tested it in game on the current version
indigo yacht
ok but that's just using the item to debuff not as an actual weapon
i suppose that's besides the point though anyways
half imp
Support weapons crying
half imp
Yeah
short warren
Shellphone rework that changes it from a good info and travel item into a shitty weapon 🔥 🔥
upbeat tundra
FABSOL! GIVE RANGER NOT-DOGSHIT PRE-HM ACCESORIES, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
indigo yacht
"give ranger pre hardmode accessories"
crude geode
“Give Ranger Accessories”
half imp
Give Ranger
crude geode
“Give”-every #calamity-mod-talk user when asked about their thoughts on the next update
dense locust
remove
indigo yacht
true
crude geode
True!
upbeat tundra
Wait lol I didn’t realize how bad it actually is. If you check class setups for Ranger in the pre hm section rusty medallion is literally the only ranger accessory at any given point. There is a whopping 1 pre hm ranged accessory, and imo it’s ass
Are there dev plans to add more in the near future
If not I might draft up a suggestion for it
errant wren
can't wait for bowstring accessory that makes you charge up the shots
hollow shell
What's wrong with Equinox's suggestion
hollow shell
Too broadly scoped
Bull
It would not be that hard at all to standardize a new drop method across all sources
Depending on how you do it you'd only have to write the new drop code once
dense locust
it could technically fall under this but its a stretch
hollow shell
that's a term i'm going to pretend i have extensive knowledge on
I also don't know exactly how it works but it basically lets the modders edit code that they weren't supposed to be able to edit
It's harder and riskier but the potential is much greater
errant wren
i would have to imagine that there might be issues with changing the loot stuff
errant wren
I also don't know *exactly* how it works but it basically lets the modders edit ...
oh yeah i forgot
in-line editing 
dense locust
it could *technically* fall under this but its a stretch
that said theres also this
hollow shell
it could *technically* fall under this but its a stretch
I do think it's stretching it
hollow shell
that said theres also this
Yes, exactly
This feels more like something that should get sent dev-side for them to decide if it's infeasible or not
As in, voted on
Not flagged in posting
imo
half imp
personally I think that, if it's exclusive to the 10% drops, it's reasonable to do
if it's for everything then no
errant wren
i'm huge fan
i would've imagined that it would apply to stuff that has 10% or below
and it would just be incremental
so like 1% base, then 1.01%, 1.02%, and so on
dense locust
if its just 10% boss drops I think 10% boss drops as a concept should be looked at instead
errant wren
then if you somehow still didn't get it, it would cap out at like 5 more percent than it started
half imp
if its just 10% boss drops I think 10% boss drops as a concept should be looked ...
true
make it so they're guaranteed
but only after 10 kills
dense locust
no no, make them garunteed if 100% of your damage is dealt while they are enraged
errant wren
welcome back "malice mode making previously hyper-rare items guaranteed drops" (if it even was that)
dense locust
it was
hollow shell
It.. kinda was
If by "previously" you mean "in past versions" then yes that's absolutely what it was
RIVs --> Challenge Drops
half imp
no no, make them garunteed if 100% of your damage is dealt while they are enrage...
ok but to compensate terraprisma is now a 10%
half imp
no
Crystal Assassin is 10%
and you get one piece of the three at random when you get that 10%
errant wren
one piece...
half imp
banmed
errant wren
tardy geyser
chopper boohoo
Weren't challenge drops supposed to get unique obtainment methods? Like beat aqua scoog underwater to get deep diver, etc.
Bad example because deep diver is crafted now byeah
indigo yacht
sounds painful
crude geode
Planned™️
indigo yacht
you should mention that the fight sucks so nobody would be getting cocky to begin with
short stream
I feel like DoG should still display going to 0% health and then go back to "full" health, just to get the feeling of "what, it isn't dead yet!?"
keen zodiac
that would be cool but i feel 2 bosses in a row having that gimmick would be strange
and yharon is the obvious choice to keep it
fleet grotto
When he starts llassr gridding jw should say it imo
indigo yacht
I feel like DoG should still display going to 0% health and then go back to "ful...
that doesn't really make any sense
yharon is a phoenix
spice stream
arizona
indigo yacht
dog is just a stupid worm
whole tundra
@rancid moat I am going to ask one question, no offense
Are you serious?
rancid moat
well I am still studying it but yes
whole tundra
I am very sure Terraria is written in c# so it wouldn't make sense to change it
whole tundra
Oh I think I misintepreted the post
indigo yacht
what the fuck??????
indigo yacht
is this item not from souls
whole tundra
I was about to point that out
exotic gyro
@upbeat token Why remove ,"Don't get cocky line". I love that line
upbeat token
<@805071464742781008> Why remove ,"Don't get cocky line". I love that line
because it doesnt work anymore
exotic gyro
Also DoG gets additional contact damage after that line
upbeat token
yeah?
exotic gyro
so that works
upbeat token
but its not too major of a change that players would be surprised or getting overconfident
exotic gyro
and gets faster also
upbeat token
yeah but my point is phase 2 isnt a huge change
warm juniper
because it doesnt work anymore
he says that bc he canonically has a huge ego
he literally calls himself the “devourer of gods”
upbeat token
he says that bc he canonically has a huge ego
yeah but it doesnt make sense to be saying the line at 65%
exotic gyro
He does not have any line while entering portal also
upbeat token
the line only made sense pre-1.5
upbeat token
He does not have any line while entering portal also
yeah???
exotic gyro
so dont get cocky works
upbeat token
but like
warm juniper
yeah but it doesnt make sense to be saying the line at 65%
the lines give him personality dude they’re him talking shit, they arent supposed to be things to tell you when this and that is happening and whatever
upbeat token
the lines give him personality dude they’re him talking shit, they arent suppose...
yes but the line doesnt make sense
warm juniper
are you serious
upbeat token
nobody would be getting cocky at 65%
indigo yacht
oh boy a discussion about dog's character
upbeat token
maybe you could replace the line instead
but like
who would be going like "oh yeah i have this in the bag" when the boss is at 65%
tepid crown
oh boy a discussion about dog's character
this isnt even a discussion of character they just want the line gone for no reason
exotic gyro
Yeah they could put the line in 3rd phase
tepid crown
indigo yacht
this isnt even a discussion of character they just want the line gone for no rea...
tbf its a really stupid line
upbeat token
Yeah they could put the line in 3rd phase
maybe
it would be better to replace the line
indigo yacht
dog doesnt have a 3rd phase
indigo yacht
no it doesn't
indigo yacht
dog has two phases
upbeat token
or did they remove that
upbeat token
sure, its a good line, but not in that context
and i dont think there could be a good context during the fight
indigo yacht
im not calling "summoning minions" a subphase otherwise bosses like dragonfolly would have a million
tepid crown
cosmic guardians arent part of a seperate phase
indigo yacht
we should remove all dog voicelines imo iirc tbh icl
upbeat token
im not calling "summoning minions" a subphase otherwise bosses like dragonfolly ...
but its at a specific health threshpool
and theres a line
warm juniper
im not calling "summoning minions" a subphase otherwise bosses like dragonfolly ...
eye of cthulhu 30th subphase
indigo yacht
but its at a specific health threshpool
that's not what a subphase is 😭
a subphase changes the fight
this is a single one time event
now, if it kept summoning more after you killed them, then sure Because it's consistent within that health threshold
tepid crown
its an attack that occurs once when the threshold is reached
if they were resummoned if they were killed, then itd be a subphase, cuz its a new continious attack
exotic gyro
but its at a specific health threshpool
Those are status message
indigo yacht
yharon has like a zillion subphases but they all are changes to the boss' attack pattern and often add new attacks or remove older, easier ones
tepid crown
also btw dont get cocky happens at 75, not 65
upbeat token
also btw dont get cocky happens at 75, not 65
i think it depends on the difficulty
iirc its 15% before the phase shift
exotic gyro
U need to change the title also
indigo yacht
Remove dog from the game
upbeat token
**Remove dog from the game**
real
"too many worm bosses + dog is too hard i literally died over 100 tries on normal mode"
indigo yacht
dog is piss easy
upbeat token
ik
indigo yacht
i just hate it
upbeat token
people that dont know how to ram dash complain about it being too hard tho
indigo yacht
the 3025 rework will save it trust
upbeat token
the 3025 rework will save it trust
no theyre just turning DoG into destroyer 2.0
no wait thats the 2536 rework
astral sage
no theyre just turning DoG into destroyer 2.0
too much peak to handle
we need destroyer the 3rd
oh wait thats thanatos
indigo yacht
you're going into The Machine.
astral sage
what is "The Machine"
astral sage
indigo yacht
it's like a
a bread maker
but not at all like a bread maker in the slightest if that makes sense
astral sage
I thought you make bread by yourself
indigo yacht
im like 70% sure its sentient but im too afraid to check
half imp
**Remove dog from the game**
reason:
cats better
indigo yacht
so true bestie
kindred fractal
the line only made sense pre-1.5
Better yet
Make dog do that again, it was downright stupid making him do that uncool portal nonsense instead of the cool coming back after "dying"
upbeat token
Better yet
Make dog do that again, it was downright stupid making him do that un...
i alr made a suggestion for that
and it was declined for being bringing back old content
kindred fractal
Yharon healing was fuckin awesome and it makes no sense why he doesn't anymore
upbeat token
Yharon healing was fuckin awesome and it makes no sense why he doesn't anymore
i think its cause it was too hard to code
kindred fractal
Infernum puts it back just fine
upbeat token
like you would have to go around so many things just to make the slightest change
kindred fractal
like you would have to go around so many things just to make the slightest chang...
Actually
Isn't that just terraria as a whole
upbeat token
Actually
Isn't that just terraria as a whole
idk, but i heard from someone that the reason they removed it was cause it made coding super annoying
tepid crown
whoever told u that was wrong
it was removed because fab didnt like the idea of false hp bars
kindred fractal
I mean
Half the other good mods have healing bosses
So it shouldn't be hard to code
tepid crown
its getting readded anyway so its not like this matters much
half imp
Yharon healing was fuckin awesome and it makes no sense why he doesn't anymore
It's coming back iirc
kindred fractal
it was removed because fab didnt like the idea of false hp bars
It's annoying at times
Looks at Fargos
kindred fractal
It's coming back iirc
Oh cool
half imp
false HP bars suck but yharon specifically it made a lot of sense for
godslayer armor revive bc dog revived for phase 2 was surely a time of all time
kindred fractal
Godslayer armor having a revive is crazy
indigo yacht
Yharon healing was fuckin awesome and it makes no sense why he doesn't anymore
pretty sure this is being reimplemented in a different way anyways
tepid crown
the different way will be just a bajillion times faster healing and he wont attack u
indigo yacht
frog
bold dirge
frog
coral carbon
isnt DoG dialogue being completely rewritten anyways
indigo yacht
not anytime soon, I don't think
drowsy plank
@wanton bluff #suggestions-discussion message
also they're definetly not required, nor required pre-boss of all things
the good ones at least are easily viable until the end of pre-hardmode when is when you'd realistically be able to really look for them
indigo yacht
im still annoyed about that but it already got denied so you can't make more suggestions about it
drowsy plank
i mean you could, but it'd mostly be a waste of time since it's
not really like anything has changed?
indigo yacht
they would more than likely just get denied again and waste the time of the devs so like
😔
drowsy plank
maybe after the next update drops, id allow it through again, but yeah i dont think anyone will have changed their mind
indigo yacht
fair enough
drowsy plank
hm
indigo yacht
i should just make a mod for this tbh
drowsy plank
ture
tepid crown
the good ones at least are easily viable until the end of pre-hardmode when is w...
evil luxors being viable for summoner for who knows how long
drowsy plank
honestly now that im thinking about it i shouldnt really flag it
indigo yacht
add like special fairies that can spawn and lead you to a shrine when you're decently close by
drowsy plank
it got denied but it's not like it's breaking rules
indigo yacht
add like special fairies that can spawn and lead you to a shrine when you're dec...
PURPLE fairies
drowsy plank
maybe if devs see people really want it they might at least consider it?
idk
if a dev comes in here and says "no" themselves and flags it
sure
but for now
im gonna leave it
wanton bluff
the good ones at least are easily viable until the end of pre-hardmode when is w...
I see, since I noticed that most of the new players of the Calamity Mod use guides and in these guides these accessories almost always appear in the "Pre Boss" section. I thought that this would help make the pre harmode faster. Likewise, thank you very much for taking the time to read my suggestion.
drowsy plank
I see, since I noticed that most of the new players of the Calamity Mod use guid...
tbf, they're mostly suggested for all of pre-Harmode, if i recall correctly, and they're predominately in the pre-Boss section because there just isn't as many strong options for accessories in that leg of the game. their listing is mostly to be like "hey, if you get this, it's really good and you should use it!" hence the * icon next to them to imply their difficulty in obtainment
faint briar
ocram returning to calamit at same teir of eol
astral sage
is changing weapon recipe falling under specific weapon suggestion category
crude geode
No
astral sage
okay
royal tapir
@astral sage This is happening next update already
drowsy plank
<@1273753814960308255> This is happening next update already
should i flag it then?
royal tapir
It's already happened
echo leaf
I missed discussion about it
But I support shrine locators 👍
pump the fucking ugc directly into my veinsss
drowsy plank
lmao
tardy geyser
make it the most unwieldy game of warmer colder ever iirc. oh and the shrines share the same locator item, and its consumable!
novel belfry
__Divinity Seeker __
Relics created for pilgrims seeking out the shrines to their gods.
echo leaf
make it the most unwieldy game of warmer colder ever iirc. oh and the shrines sh...
make it non-consumable, but make it in a shrine of its own
then when you're lucky enough to find it
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
grave zincBOT
@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Add 6 Missing Weapons so Every Tier Has Weapons of Every Class]
It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
@novel belfry - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Rework worm boss spawns to not bunch them up together.]
It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
@umbral gazelle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Make Storms before the catastrophes play after vanilla's end credit instead of immediately after moon lord]
It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
@glass arch - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Rework Phaseslayer]
It has been voted upon by the devs, and although it did not receieve enough positive votes to pass, the final results were very close.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
drowsy plank
hella
glass arch
<@867914116134744106> - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[**Rewo...
how many votes did it even get
frail fox
So sad that phaseslayer will never get reworked, it’s too perfect
errant wren
how many votes did it even get
at most 90
tepid crown
they were talking about dev votes
frail fox
90 devs 🔥
errant wren
they were talking about dev votes
i know
i
i am aware that there's not that many devs
that was the joke
half imp
are you sure
errant wren
pretty sure
tepid crown
ok you're right
are YOU sure?
errant wren
are YOU sure?
half imp
are YOU sure?
Yes
drowsy plank
i thought you were doze
half imp
I go by many names
tepid crown
no theyre john tooltip
errant wren
doze 'john tooltip' 'sure' zoze
half imp
doze, John tooltip, sure, the guy who gave step stool 5% crit when standing on the stool
tepid crown
doze sounds like a lame person who would obsess over a niche boss and would make an addon based on fandom
indigo yacht
i bet it was signus
half imp
doze sounds like a lame person who would obsess over a niche boss and would make...
Idk that sounds pretty cool
prisma sedge
Wait, so what does thumbs up mean?
tepid crown
Wait, so what does thumbs up mean?
It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
prisma sedge
Oh wait, nevermind, I'm dumb
Thanks though
grave zincBOT
@glass arch - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Make Ares slower]
It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
frail fox
Gif Ares
prisma sedge
<@326455578610368513> - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[**Rewo...
Also honestly, this is kind of interesting to see considering that it wasn't met with...an amazing response when it was first posted
If I remember right, at least
errant wren
png ares is dead
welcome to calamity jpeg ares
tepid crown
Also honestly, this is kind of interesting to see considering that it wasn't met...
i mean the response was just
"well a lot of them were fine actually"
indigo yacht
welcome to calamity jpeg ares
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WERE GOING TK HAVE THE CHECKBOARD
royal tapir
prisma sedge
ares being slower is so cursed feeling
Of course, I'm sure there's something better in the works, but maybe a way to work around that could be to have him start following you slowly, but pick up speed as long as he's a certain distance from you
tepid crown
HOLY SHIT IS THAT CALAMITY DEVELOPER OZZATRON?!
royal tapir
He has always done this
frail fox
Ares EoC ai
indigo yacht
goated
half imp
Yeah he always gains speed the longer he goes in a direction
tepid crown
Ares EoC ai
each demon eye spawn is just a new ares arm
tepid crown
each demon eye spawn is just a new ares arm
if like 50 tesla arms spawn
indigo yacht
see it works out bc by default eoc doesn't spawn more than 4 servants at a time
tepid crown
get fucked ig
prisma sedge
Oh wait, really? Damn, I got development 🐌 'd
weary plaza
if like 50 tesla arms spawn
my ears exploding after the 800 gauss nukes behind me go off
tepid crown
every direction the laser can go in going off at the same time:
weary plaza
plasma cannons filling the projectile limit every time they shoot
actually ,slightly different topic, but how much different would the ares fight go if he could swap out his arms like the ares exoskeleton
prisma sedge
Very different I imagine, but that'd be fun as hell if done right
indigo yacht
isnt that basically what infernum and eternity do
I can't speak to the quality of either of those fights but they're certainly very interesting
oblique birch
<@867914116134744106> - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[**Make...
huge news
novel belfry
<@326455578610368513> - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[**Rewo...
yooo
novel belfry
<@867914116134744106> - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[**Make...
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
dense locust
(this barely matters)
novel belfry
this matters a lot
indigo yacht
yeah
frail fox
Mayhem…
indigo yacht
I really hope it actually just screws rungod strategies
cooking?
coral carbon
HOLY SHIT IS THAT CALAMITY DEVELOPER OZZATRON?!
no its anakin (sarcastic)
drowsy plank
@icy hound not sure what you're trying to do there but you're not supposed to send messages in #suggestions-posting
icy hound
oh ok
gritty plaza
vestal crater
I think this is good but you’d need to nerf rover drive slightly
Idk if it’s an allowed suggestion or not I’m too eepy
golden sonnet
not really, you can already do the same thing by just taking it off and putting it back on
@dusty path as a similar suggestion has already passed, I have marked your suggestion as invalid. #suggestions-voting message
vestal crater
True
golden sonnet
no problem 
small bramble
#suggestions-voting message Oh my god yes yes yes this
I really wanna play around more with stuff like fungal symbiote or gladiator's locket or granite whatever but finding these is so unreliable. The desert one is pretty easy to find consistently but the others? good luck 😔
indigo yacht
don't hold your breath, i already made the same suggestion and it got denied
and mine was broader
i hope thougj
they added all these awesome items then made them really hard to find 🥀
idle dagger
I do remember this being denied unfortunately
drowsy plank
the whole point of that is to not overwhelm the player with information
is it really that hard to move a weapon to another inventory slot
drowsy plank
plus, what about ammo damage for black hawk and its upgrades? for mana stats for summoners using active weapons? it's easier to just keep the stats most relevant to each class to when you're holding its weapon type
indigo yacht
this is kind of a non issue imo
drowsy plank
yeah
indigo yacht
i think im allowed to say this since half the time i spend in cal is looking at the fucking stat meter while setting up a build for nohitting or doing an awful challenge or just fucking around
its annoying to rearrange your hotbar but like it takes a second and the amount of summon slots you have at any given time is between like 1 and 16 something while damage% and crit can range from like 0% to 370% something, so it's a much easier number to remember
golden sonnet
also new summon ui will exist
indigo yacht
word?
indigo yacht
also new summon ui will exist
@fleet grotto
fleet grotto
damn
keen zodiac
word?
new healthbar, green dots are minion slots
more info on the future content doc
gilded citrus
The dots turn blue when you use all dots and then summon again
And then once all blue they start turning orange iirc
keen zodiac
the doc says it caps at all blue
frail mantle
i'd be impressed if you managed to get more than 30 slots
keen zodiac
the doc says it caps at all blue
it does not say that actually
what was i on
the original message says there's a color after blue but it caps at 45
fleet grotto
i'd be impressed if you managed to get more than 30 slots
don't think that's possible even now and also the amount of minion slots is going to get gutted
keen zodiac
don't think that's possible even now and also the amount of minion slots is goin...
it is?
frail mantle
don't think that's possible even now and also the amount of minion slots is goin...
that's why it's impressive
keen zodiac
hm
oblique birch
Maximum minion slots will be 15 for base Calamity
More than that is for compatibility
half imp
The dots turn blue when you use all dots and then summon again
Too bad you'll never get that many minions anyway
half imp
Maximum minion slots will be 15 for base Calamity
Actually the current going number is 13 with Angelic Alliance, 10 pre shadowspec
oblique birch
😨
upbeat tundra
Maybe I’m misinterpreting what’s going on, but isn’t it easy to get waaay over 15 slots post Scal? 10 from demonshade, 2 from potion and bewitched, 3 from AA, 4 from nucleogenesis…
prisma sedge
Maybe I’m misinterpreting what’s going on, but isn’t it easy to get waaay over 1...
They're nerfing summon slots in the future, essentially
upbeat tundra
They're nerfing summon slots in the future, essentially
Oh. Damn. Because they’re adding more summoner primaries, right…?
(Whips, etc.)
prisma sedge
Probably, and I'm guessing it's also because summoner is kind of a busted class right now
honest berry
I hope some multisummons get buffed to compensate
echo leaf
i trust the doze zoze
i wonder about pygmy necklace
echo leaf
Too bad you'll never get that many minions anyway
presumably it’s just for bullshit proofing
if someone is using some crazy overpowered mod then they can safely use that boss bar, even if they get more minion slots than the clamity devs plan to be possible
half imp
Maybe I’m misinterpreting what’s going on, but isn’t it easy to get waaay over 1...
Currently yes, but when the summoner rebalance hits it'll be
2 at base
2 from Nucleogenesis
6 from armor
3 from Angelic Alliance
Now, that may not hold true because of Demonshade armor which is at the moment not changed I don't think. It might go to +8 or something, who knows
tardy geyser
Only one accessory line means star tained is getting removed?
half imp
Nucleogenesis is made with star tainted generator
tired haven
if someone is using some crazy overpowered mod then they can safely use that bos...
Yeah
Originally it was discussed to have a hard limit but being a bit more flexible to crossmod even if not officially supported is nice
tired haven
Probably, and I'm guessing it's also because summoner is kind of a busted class ...
The minion balance would go both ways because they need less power with whips but more power per slot, ye
vocal moth
shiblibby
fleet grotto
Currently yes, but when the summoner rebalance hits it'll be
2 at base
2 from N...
Wait, 2 base?
Is summoning potion or bewitching table getting gutted?
dense locust
I like how this implies angelic alliance is getting buffed
half imp
I like how this implies angelic alliance is getting buffed
It is currently+3
I thought
So maybe it's 12 with angelic Alliance
drowsy plank
icicle arrow... 2!!!!!!!
not really but
this is such an easy suggestion to agree with lmao
errant wren
it really is a non-issue, but pointing it out...
drowsy plank
@calm dove #suggestions-voting message
also your suggestion is focusing too much on the fix and not really on the problem
you dont even mention why rover drive needs to be more easily obtained (sponge), you just focus on solutions, which is not the purpose of suggestions
indigo yacht
oh boy yet another recipe to facilitate an item's obtainment!!!!!1!
coral carbon
oh boy yet another recipe to facilitate an item's obtainment!!!!!1!
calamity players suggesting alternate item obtainment methods:
nimble totem
#suggestions-posting message doesn't it already have a crafting recipe?
dense locust
no
novel belfry
calamity players suggesting alternate item obtainment methods:
make it have wulfrum battery in its recipe
tardy geyser
make it have the sponge in its recipe
small bramble
THIS
echo leaf
post-DoG when rover drive is most relevant outside of pre-hardmode, you have easy access to Virid Vanguard and Ceaseless Hunger potions
small bramble
and of course who can forget the Zerger 🍔
drowsy plank
the borbor
echo leaf
yeah, zergs too
oh i completely forgot about chaos candles- those help a ton
all of that combined means that getting rover drive post-providence shouldn't be a problem
prisma sedge
and of course who can forget the Zerger 🍔
To be fair, Zergs are pre-hardmode
small bramble
Yee
gilded citrus
Calamity already plans to add them once summoner is nerfed iirc
humble scarab
Calamity already plans to add them once summoner is nerfed iirc
Ye
indigo yacht
Calamity already plans to add them once summoner is nerfed iirc
@shut pasture
shut pasture
Calamity already plans to add them once summoner is nerfed iirc
ah i am new here and didnt know, apologies
gilded citrus
👍
calm onyx
Is potion duping using shimmer still a thing or has it been patched?
gilded citrus
I agree with this change
errant cradle
my tired ass read that as Have sleeping be sped up by Power Cell Factories and was about to ask what the fuck you were asking for 🥹
keen zodiac
why did the power cell sugg get flagged
fleet grotto
This was in fact already done by a certain shark
^
hollow shell
The eternal debate of ❗ or 🏁
(I like the latter in these cases cuz it's more publicly informative and makes the devs look like they're listening to more suggs )
hollow shell
I mean to let it reach voting then immediately slap a 🏁 on it
half imp
^
indigo yacht
<@1233943368426328094>
awesome ok
sorry i had the thought immediately before i left for school
echo leaf
well it has bas formatting anyways so
errant wren
i love bas formatting
echo leaf
🐟
keen zodiac
what does the 🔄 mean in voting again it doesn't say
echo leaf
i’ve never seen that, let me check
keen zodiac
it's on a ton of recent ish ones
gaunt needle
It has been voted upon by the devs, and although it did not receieve enough positive votes to pass, the final results were very close.
echo leaf
Ah, I found some
keen zodiac
> It has been voted upon by the devs, and although it did not receieve enough po...
damn 😔
echo leaf
the devs read nearly every suggestion so no worries
the ones that get sent to the dev server are pretty much just there to say “this is what the community wants the most”
echo leaf
Glad to clear it up then :)
hollow shell
> It has been voted upon by the devs, and although it did not receieve enough po...
Yeah it's a close rejection, nearly not a rejection
The 🔄 reaction is a carry-over from sprite submissions, in which it is meant to imply "Try again", like if you adjust this sprite a bit more it'll be good enough to get implemented
However I'm not sure if suggs are intended the same way
cuz suggs are more conceptual, a close vote means more so a disagreement of ideals rather than an indication of the sugg's quality
I assume
gaunt needle
i think i saw someone at some point say "maybe some devs didn't see or didn't feel like voting, so try again at some point in the future"
tepid crown
yea that one happens when its been i think it was two votes in either way for a while and no ones really voting on it
gaunt needle
novel belfry
its been about a year since this was made
#suggestions-voting message
fleet grotto
?
dense locust
that would be heinously broken lol
magma stone needs litterally anything but a buff rn lol
its already perhaps the strongest phm damage acc
novel belfry
?
dense locust
magma stone needs litterally anything but a buff rn lol
its already perhaps the ...
ok maybe not fungal clump exists
novel belfry
ya
dense locust
magma stone is already incredibly strong without this effect
tepid crown
me when literally half the things in pre hm r weak to heat debuffs
novel belfry
Okay, fair.
dense locust
flame waker is at its best when its amplifying already strong debuffs like shadowflame or brimstone flames, not for its on fire infliction
dense locust
abyssal amulet heat death
tepid crown
lol
indigo yacht
abyssal amulet heat death
its getting reworked anyways
olive saddle
abyssal amulet heat death
can magma stone even be gotten in phm?
dense locust
....yes?
olive saddle
huh
dense locust
its just a hellbat drop
errant cradle
Magma Stone is a prehardmode accessory
dense locust
you can also just shimmer a lava charm
tepid crown
Also how many accessories does melee get in prehm
not many but
indigo yacht
like, 3
dense locust
2
indigo yacht
more than ranger!
olive saddle
not counting strings theres maybe three
dense locust
or well, like 15 if you count every string seperately
tepid crown
is there a reason for magma stone to be melee?
olive saddle
feral claws magma stone and i honestly forget the other
errant cradle
It's melee in vanilla thats really about it
indigo yacht
bloody worm tooth
tepid crown
is there a reason for magma stone to be melee?
like its even used in magma quiver
olive saddle
ah right
dense locust
is there a reason for magma stone to be melee?
is there a reason for sulphur amulet to be ranger?
crude geode
Because Ranger has jack shit in prehm
olive saddle
my best guess is the droplets dont make sense on melee?
crude geode
In terms of accessories
olive saddle
but idk
dense locust
is there a reason for sulphur amulet to be ranger?
also the like 7 rogue accessories that have no reason to be rogue
(make sand cloak allclass I beg)
olive saddle
sand cloak is sick its a shame its rogue only
crude geode
Actually true
olive saddle
fuckin free life regen and defense for like 0.2 seconds of stealth
novel belfry
Make Magma Stone apply its effects to Ranger as well, or to all classes
Magma Stone's effect is that it allows melee attacks to inflict Hellfire. However, one of its two upgrades is a ranger accessory, Molten Quiver. Given that Calamity buffs another Pre-HM Underworld accessory, the (otherwise useless) Flame Waker Boots, to apply On Fire! on all weapons, it isn't out of the blue to update this accessory to apply Hellfire on all classes instead of just Melee, for consistency's sake.
If this sounds too problematic, one could instead make the Magma Stone only apply Hellfire on Melee or Ranger.
crude geode
Just do it for all classes
tepid crown
is there a reason for sulphur amulet to be ranger?
ranger needs a post eoc accessory
novel belfry
okay
tepid crown
ranger needs a post eoc accessory
melee has feral claws, mage has natures gift, rogue has rotten dogtooth
dense locust
dogtooth is only post eye on a technicality I'm pretty sure
drowsy plank
put magma stone post evil-1 so it doesn't compete with abyssal amulet
tepid crown
dogtooth is only post eye on a technicality I'm pretty sure
rotdogs only spawn post eoc
dense locust
put magma stone post evil-1 so it doesn't compete with abyssal amulet <:clueless...
would mean removing the shimmer recipe
drowsy plank
fuck
novel belfry
Abyssal Amulet is getting reworked.
drowsy plank
oh like chest loot
novel belfry
To what? I dunno.
dense locust
To what? I dunno.
sea spirit amulet
tepid crown
oh like chest loot
not necessarily chest loot but yea
drowsy plank
oh right
"sea spirit amulet"
okay we probably dont need to worry about it overlapping with magma stone then if magma stone was made all class
even if magma stone is too strong
you could just make it inflict on fire instead of hellfire for non-melee classes
it already does that if you use it on players in pvp so it's not even that weird
dense locust
if its just on fire then we run into the innital problem
where it steps on flame wakers toes
or in this case the opposite
dense locust
the solution to magma stone is to just make not have 80% of phm be fire weak
drowsy plank
with magma stone you can have hellfire and on fire with flask of fire on melee at the same time
tepid crown
wat
drowsy plank
magma stone inflicts hellfire
flask of fire makes melee attacks inflict on fire
you can get both on any melee weapon at the same time
that feels weird lol
dense locust
stacking every fire debuff possible on a slimed slime god
drowsy plank
^
tepid crown
stacking every fire debuff possible on a slimed slime god
i mean thats just funny
idle dagger
Fraud owned
dense locust
dark lance + drizzlefish + magma stone + flask of fire
idle dagger
Love you slime god
tepid crown
does plasma rod still afflict shadowflame
drowsy plank
nah crit has the right idea use dark lance for shadowflame
idle dagger
I wonder how good that would be
It sounds like it would go pretty hard
frail fox
(make sand cloak allclass I beg)
Pretty sure it’s not gonna use stealth next update so yeah good
novel belfry
should i go suggest a rework for the Bloody Worm Tooth?
dense locust
worm tooth is fine
not every accessory needs to be complex or interesting
some can just be numbers
novel belfry
It's an "Expert" boss drop.
dense locust
so is soaring insignia
novel belfry
That used to have a more insane effect. Admittedly, too insane for its good, but yeah
errant wren
we don't talk about worm scarf
dense locust
???
errant wren
i'm kidding i'm just making things up
uhhh
bloody worm tooth now has the additional "benefit" of giving the player really unhealthy teeth
crude geode
It's an "Expert" boss drop.
So is Royal gel and moon globe, what’s your point
novel belfry
They don't just give a single, class-specific boost (and also 7 defense) on their own.
I mean, sure, Mana Polarizer exists, but it doesn't just increase magic damage by 10%.
dense locust
correct, it increases magic crit by 6% instead
crude geode
drowsy plank
does melee really need more accessories
dense locust
yes
errant wren
no no wait i got it
novel belfry
So is Royal gel and moon globe, what’s your point
And besides, these, for all of their uselessness, still attempted to do unique benefits.
errant wren
bows inflict a debuff with bloody worm tooth (because you're putting the tooth on the arrow)
dense locust
does melee really need more accessories
if melee doesnt need more accessories then summoner and rogue need less
therefore
make spirit glyph allclass 
errant wren
bows inflict a debuff with bloody worm tooth (because you're putting the tooth o...
ranger accessory
novel belfry
bows inflict a debuff with bloody worm tooth (because you're putting the tooth o...
Bloody Wormbite
dense locust
does melee really need more accessories
melee has
gauntlet line
hide of astrum deus (not used outside tm)
warbanner (ditto) (also being made allclass next update)
magma stone
bwsc and bloody worm tooth
yoyo bag
emblem
moon charm technically?
badge of bravery
theres really not all that many tbh
drowsy plank
if melee doesnt need more accessories then summoner and rogue need less
therefor...
i mean
that first part is true
that is why some summoner accessories are getting removed and some rogue accessories are being made all class
drowsy plank
statis's blessing im pretty sure
well actually that might've been turned into a sentry thing
frail fox
(Not anymore technically)
drowsy plank
i dont remember
frail fox
Yeah
dense locust
we're also getting whip accs alegedly so if anything summoner might end up with a net increase in accs
drowsy plank
melee and rogue have opposite problems
melee is all weapons and rogue is all accessories
dense locust
twenty nine rogue accessories
frail fox
Could use a little more
crude geode
Forty more I’d say
errant wren
obviously we have to rework every accessory that isn't already for rogue into one for it
dense locust
true....
olive saddle
halve the effects of all accessories and double the amount of slots!!!
drowsy plank
step stool now has its legs sawn off
lavish condor
@alpine dawn They're called larva
A similar suggestion got to voting like a week ago about making them unbreakable while Plantera is alive and that got denied by devs, so I'm not sure about your luck getting this passed
According to #changelogs message guide to environmental protection will make larva not break in the next update
indigo yacht
what the
i understand what this is saying but the word choice could be much much better
indigo yacht
i wanted to ping someone who was complaining about this a few days ago but i forgot who it was
@obsidian sage was it you
indigo yacht
obsidian sage
Thr wall br boxes
Yes I was pitching about it
It sold me
It just gets so gufking annoyijg
And you get punished for past losses
indigo yacht
solution: dont play boss rush
royal tapir
@brittle panther 95% confident this has already been done for next update
Yeah it has
brittle panther
I figured as such
It was such an obvious thing I had to double check if Fabsol has already posted it in #changelogs
frail fox
Damn everything has been done for next update
dense locust
i mean duh, they reworked calamity
crude geode
I mean several things are in the next update because of suggs made in the wait period
errant wren
true, but i mean like the week before and after
worn elk
A similar suggestion got to voting like a week ago about making them unbreakable...
idk what the actualy reason was, but imo it feels a little unintuitive to suddenly make the larva indestructible if you dont know about the change
drowsy plank
idk what the actualy reason was, but imo it feels a little unintuitive to sudden...
i mean... you could just mine it. that's not really. indestructible. it just wont break if you sneezed on it. i think fargo's already does this? i dont remember
worn elk
if that was always the case yeah
just if the conditions for breaking it change whether or not a boss is alive or something like that
drowsy plank
I hope my suggestion is thourough enough
doze already added this as tsuki pointed out
worn elk
idk just me maybe
vocal moth
doze already added this as tsuki pointed out
Oh
Like
How
i see a number next to my hp
ik that
drowsy plank
idk just me maybe
i cant imagine a scenario where you would voluntarily want to break a hive larva using a projectile in the middle of a plantera fight
vocal moth
is that it
drowsy plank
smh beat me to it
tepid crown
(made by the same person before they were dev)
also im pretty sure the commit for the bleed indicator was done on the public version of cals git so u could technically get it rn
vocal moth
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3437517658
Thank you so much
Infernum yharon at 30fps is killing me
drowsy plank
just turn your fps up then