suggestions-discussion

[errant cradle]

cheese is now banned from making suggestions

[echo leaf]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese

[hollow shell]

jesus christ
Suggestions are allowed to exist which don't get votes, that's why we have the voting system and don't just deliver suggs straight to the devs upon leaving #suggestions-posting

[worthy lintel]

no more gif...

[grim tusk]

[errant wren]

i leave this channel alone

and i come back to cheese and people telling mods to rip the fibers of another's being

over a sugg about teleporters

i'm so proud of this community

[gilded citrus]

You will experience hell torture in only the left side of your tongue for 5 minutes every month at random

[errant wren]

jesus christ what did i do

[gilded citrus]

[hollow shell]

I curse you with every individual droplet of water that comes out of your showerhead has a 1/200 chance to be 100°F different from the other droplets in either the positive or negative direction.

[errant wren]

oh so a standard shower

[royal tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/slugcat-washing-machine-gif-3586929489433669235

They're doing this to you tomorrow

[worthy lintel]

how much is 100 F in actual freedom units

[echo leaf]

38-40 C?

[worthy lintel]

||the truth is i already knew but wanted to drive engagement 👉 👈 ||

[gilded citrus]

Make the water differ by 100 celsius

[dense locust]

did you ever end up rewriting the sugg or should I

[indigo yacht]

if you're worried about srs just focus on advocating for closing the shield accessory gap and then present frost barrier as the "subjectively best" candidate for a rework into such an accessory

[dense locust]

I mean I'm not concerned about it being deemed to specific considering it didn't get flagged last time
and the basic layout of the suggestion is still very general

[indigo yacht]

fair

if the devs are okay with the suggestion then definitely no reason to flip the focus

[median scaffold]

I kept forgetting about that 💔

[indigo yacht]

what are the other two shield items?

i know rover drive and sponge, and lunic corps is the armor

[dense locust]

psc and psa

[indigo yacht]

oh right forgot those existed

[strange condor]

can some1 tell me how to get Craw Carapace

[dense locust]

#help-advice-read-pins

[polar bison]

I've gotta check what calamity shields actually function as shields for Brand of the Inferno now that I've read this

I feel like while Frost Barrier is thematically fitting name wise I feel a better look into the issue you're insinuating here is not necessarily to gut and rework an exising item but perhaps to suggest a barrire item absent in some points of progression.

Even if CalDev hates tanky playstyles

[glass arch]

thats not the case.

[indigo yacht]

there's not much to gut

[glass arch]

theres a difference between tanky and being able to stop engaging entirely with the game

[polar bison]

lmao no I know I just like giving shit for it

[indigo yacht]

like when was the last time you actually thought about Frost Barrier before this suggestion

[glass arch]

i hoped it miraculously stopped existing

[indigo yacht]

i think much of the focus on focus barrier is just because the idea was in an... not really echo chamber, but close enough i suppose for a while

[polar bison]

Yesterday, I thought I had to get my hands on it because I honestly forgot you don't need it for auric armor anymore

I do agree it is like

so unspeakably forgettable

I just don't think barrier would be the best fit for it

[lavish condor]

Allow Wulfrum Acrobatics Pack to cling to trees
The Wulfrum Acrobatics Pack is an early-game accessory that replaces vanilla hook physics with momentum-based rope-swinging physics. While not particularly practical in boss fights, the physics behind the hook are intricate enough that it's super fun to play around with.
On the subject of practicality, there's not many practical uses for it. The Underworld's fairly flat ceiling and openness makes that area a playground for the acrobatics pack, but otherwise open areas with ceilings aren't particularly common unless the player builds them.
I propose, to make the acrobatics pack both more practical and cooler, to allow the acrobatics pack to cling to trees, similar to the Squirrel Hook. Maybe it should apply only if the squirrel hook is equipped
Trees are a naturally occurring object that appear commonly on the surface and are tall enough that it's feasible to swing on them. If the acrobatics pack could grapple them, it would make for a creative, skill-based way to travel quickly across the surface before the player obtains speedy movement items.

How does this look?

[indigo yacht]

i think it's a nice, interesting idea, but it also seems kinda pointless
to get the zoologist you need to fill in 10% of the bestiary which is like... idk, maybe a hundred entries or something? and by then I'd be surprised if you didn't already have some half decent mobility

also you need 2 gold i guess which might be disincentivizing to people who aren't very good at earlygame hoarding, idk if that would apply to nearly everyone or only a few people

[violet zephyr]

54 entries.

[indigo yacht]

does it not account for NPCs added by calamity?

[violet zephyr]

No.

[lavish condor]

I assume it doesn't

like princess doesn't account for cal npcs

[indigo yacht]

that is very different

[violet zephyr]

What?

[lavish condor]

I was thinking how you don't need calamity npcs to get the vanilla princess npc who normally needs all npcs

[violet zephyr]

Then, yes.

TModLoader keeps Town NPCs to their usual requirements.

So Princess only checks Vanilla NPCs, Zoologist only checks Vanilla entries.

[indigo yacht]

i find that difficult to believe but i will take your word for it regardless

[gritty plaza]

No matter how bad you are at hoarding 2 gold isn't a barrier

[violet zephyr]

Difficult to believe, easy as hell to test.

[golden sonnet]

As someone who gets universal pylon every playthrough, yes she only checks vanilla entries

otherwise calval would ruin you every playthrough with their like 3 completely unspawnable critters

[violet zephyr]

Or just... Most mods, to be honest...

[golden sonnet]

no universal pylon till post scal and exos

[violet zephyr]

And Primordial Wyrm.

[polar bison]

I return, Shield of the Ocean and Frost Barrier do not work as shields

[olive saddle]

#suggestions-posting message Didn't a suggestion about Frost Barrier getting removed get denied?

I thought they in general had plans with it.

#suggestions-posting message Mane whart

[errant wren]

what in the ding dang

[violet zephyr]

Good suggestion, not great at explaining, shouldn't be specific with what to change items to, and there is no need to mention anti-hoik measures since that would be an entirely different suggestion.

[drowsy plank]

@odd snow your suggestion is fine until you suggest adding a "jungle temple guardian"; please read the rules for suggestions
you should be focusing on the problem, not a solution

[errant wren]

i mean yeah better loot would probably be nice

[odd snow]

maybe locked chests would be better than

[drowsy plank]

honestly you could just improve the chest loot without making it broken

like it really shouldn't be lesser healing pots or whatever in the hardmode temple

[errant wren]

yeah the only thing that needs to be addressed in the sugg is just that last section

[drowsy plank]

just make it restoration pots or something idk

[tardy geyser]

Ya just needs better potions imo; rage, wrath, endurance, lifeforce, etc.

Rather than recall and shit

[errant wren]

stuff the player would actually use

you probably have access to the current loot outside of the unique stuff by that point

clearly the solution is to give recall potions a buff in hardmode

[violet zephyr]

Better Recall Potions exist, they're called Return Potions.

[hollow shell]

(Recalls have the niche benefit of being instant, whereas Magic Mirror and co have a half-second animation before the teleport)

[errant wren]

i realized that too late

[drowsy plank]

god anything to get better potions in pots/chests

i made a very long suggestion about that a long time ago but it didn't pass

[errant wren]

give return potions a hardmode buff

[violet zephyr]

No.

[idle dagger]

You get the universal pylon every playthrough?
I haven’t even gotten it once, it’s the last big thing in vanilla terraria I haven’t done on any world
I commend and respect the dedication

[golden sonnet]

I guess I should rephrase, every multiplayer playthrough, which is most of my playthroughs

[olive saddle]

I get it because fargos adds a crafting recipe for it

Or I cheat it in

[idle dagger]

Even so that’s like many times more than me, so

Is it actually all that hard to get

[golden sonnet]

I like to do big multiplayer runs with a bunch of people that last like a month, so we generally have quite a bit of downtime between the major progression sessions for building and farming ad stuff

[idle dagger]

I know you need an artificial opposite evil biome

[golden sonnet]

I have a friend who lights up the entire map every playthrough as we used a shared map mod

they are as crazy as me

[idle dagger]

Ah makes sense

[violet zephyr]

There's quite a few niche entities.

[idle dagger]

Oh that’s deranged
The entire map??

[violet zephyr]

Mainly critters.

[idle dagger]

How do you even do that

[golden sonnet]

yes. And they generally do it with dark master too, which is like..... bruh...

[violet zephyr]

Weapon that fires projectile that has light and passes through tiles, or torches.

[golden sonnet]

they are kinda deranged but I also spend like 20 hours building arenas so can't exactly judge

[errant wren]

i miss old wulfrum staff for this specific reason

but it's so much better now

[polar bison]

Seeing old sprites next to high res cal sprites is really jarring

[sleek turret]

this person is playing cal on 1.1

[indigo yacht]

lol i kinda like this one

the hoiking is a problem though

i don't think you can actually be restricted from the temple without a dungeon guardian style enemy

[olive saddle]

I just realized is that fucking classic mode?

[indigo yacht]

since iirc the solid walls can just be hoiked through

[olive saddle]

The rare classic mode user.

[olive saddle]

Yes, and I don't really think it matters.

[indigo yacht]

they have infernum enabled though

but anyways since you can get into the temple at any time the idea of putting perennial is uhhhh complicated i think

finally phm hallowed armor wont only be for gfb

[sleek turret]

that's only the bars thing tbf

you could replace it for a potion maybe

[fleet grotto]

the "player hoik through?" Solution is so fucking shit though

jungle temple guardian? seriously

[errant wren]

how many players go out of their way to actually hoik

[fleet grotto]

a good few

[indigo yacht]

i do every few playthroughs

[fleet grotto]

i can think of a better way right noa

[sleek turret]

i mean the temple itself is alredy a hard enviroment tbh so I think that alredy restricts them

[indigo yacht]

it's not like you're really "going out of the way"

[fleet grotto]

plantera lock, like skeletron abyss

[sleek turret]

traps and enemies

[olive saddle]

yea the temple is rough early on

[indigo yacht]

true

[olive saddle]

even on tier i get my ass kicked by traps still

[indigo yacht]

clearly the answer is to make chest loot scale as you kill bosses..............

[sleek turret]

like no shit those traps are genuienly blended in the background for a reason

[olive saddle]

🔥

[sleek turret]

you step in to 1 and 3 different traps get triggered

[indigo yacht]

ignoring how shitty this would feel I don't even think this is a bad solution. i mean, it keeps chests somewhat relevant (kinda)

[errant wren]

anyways we did already agree that the part that needs to be fixed regarding the sugg is just getting rid of the last section

[indigo yacht]

although ofc not really a problem to begin with

[errant wren]

after that it's pretty much okay

[fleet grotto]

ido think it's not very good of an idea :(

the later the easier it is to find loot, and you get the same equivalent rewards as when you start?

[sleek turret]

at that point i don't think you'd need extra perenial bars in the temple where you could just mine more if you wanted so I think you could put like 4-5 good potions there and be fine and you could argue it'd be useful because you'd use those potions for Golem

[errant wren]

i mean, past plantera, most of the current loot is more clutter than anything

[fleet grotto]

oh also you don't even need to do plantera to enter the temple legit

temple key craft exists

[sleek turret]

True!

[errant wren]

i mean i know

[fleet grotto]

yea

[errant wren]

either way, i don't think you're particularly using recall potions and throwing knives against golem

[indigo yacht]

it's not like mining for ores or crafting healing potions gets harder as you move through the game, it gets easier as well

[fleet grotto]

equivalent rewards

[indigo yacht]

i have no idea what point you're trying to make

[fleet grotto]

getting something as impactful as, say, hermes boots, from chests
then go up
later in the game, get something just as impactful as said hermes boots (example unecessary)
it takes so much less effort to get

[indigo yacht]

oh you meant primarily chest loot

i just meant secondary loot

[fleet grotto]

oh then yeah

sure

[indigo yacht]

like the suggestion spoke about

[fleet grotto]

im gonna be so honest I didn't even read it all through

just the end

[errant wren]

bruh

[indigo yacht]

skipped to the best part

[fleet grotto]

does it matter? no not really

[olive saddle]

Would Empyrean knives not mentioning that they home go in #1052323733961977947 or #suggestions-posting

[glass arch]

probably bug reports

[olive saddle]

i feel bad for whoever skims through my log file

its so fucking cluttered with bullshit but my internet dictated that i cant update my mods or launch the game

thanks for the re-direct though

[golden sonnet]

@brave salmon discussions for suggestions should go here

[brave salmon]

sorry

#suggestions-posting message nah when someone hoiks through the door without beating golem just automatically turns on ultimate battle + zerg + battle potion + water candle effects on you

[unborn stream]

how do you detect if the player has hoiked through the door tho

[errant wren]

player above sensor, obviously

[olive saddle]

You don't, and its an extremely poor design choice to do this. I do think the loot needs to be improved but it could literally be a plantera or hardmode lock like the abyss chests.

[unborn stream]

temple keys

wait no

[errant wren]

pfft

[unborn stream]

jungle keys

[errant wren]

[unborn stream]

calamity makes certain bosses guaranteed (or very likely) to drop biome keys, right?

[errant wren]

think so yeah

[unborn stream]

but nah i personally don't think locking the chests would be the play if there aren't any unique weapons in the chests

[errant wren]

craft shadow key together with the temple bricks to make an upgraded key that picks any lock

[unborn stream]

so then the loot is post skeletron lol

[errant wren]

but yeah we did say that the loot should be improved at least somewhat for the point of the game that you should be going in

like i said before, i think the big "issue" with the sugg was that last little bit about dealing with hoiks

dealing with that probably comes with improving the loot, but i'm not a dev so i can't say for certain

[coral carbon]

#suggestions-voting message
How TF did this pass to voting

Didn't it get an ❗ ?

[glass arch]

the exclam was removed

it was agreed on by mods and the dev that exclaimed it that the exclam was unnecessary and that voting would filter it out on its own

[coral carbon]

Oh

[restive nest]

it will kill elevators in my base and it will kill teleporteps to world points, i don't want this in the calamity

what if i don't want to wait for 5 seconds each time? or what if i stuck in my base and i want escape from it but i can't use it enough often

[rugged belfry]

Godawful

[restive nest]

that will ruin most things

[gaunt needle]

not like many people will vote for making the game worse

[restive nest]

someone is voting for this

💀

[median coral]

Anybody else see the billion draedon talking points and get intimidated out of going through them? i feel like it should be more limited then having every single one avaliable instantly.

[restive nest]

it's endgame dialogue, and we deserved it after exo mechs, ultimate machines that rivals gods, also, we must replicate his exotechnology with his new materials and use our imagination for it, why after all we've been through we cant ask him anything we want?

[frail mantle]

I don’t think there’s particularly much you could do about that without changing when you unlock it since it’s so late in the game

[gilded citrus]

Draedon is a prominent figure in the lore and knows a LOT so if they didnt have so many talking points itd be odd

You are basically asking the closest thing to a wikipedia in calamity outside the bestiary is how i see it

[median scaffold]

#suggestions-voting message
Who was the creator?

[gray bone]

@dadsdy_

[dense ferry]

I understand the whole thing of making Draetalk more gradual but it's impossible to make that work unless we made it available before the end of the game

Which I don't think is ideal because if you can talk to Draedon before the fight, that just breaks the whole thing that this is the first time you are meeting him

[gilded citrus]

And draedon not talking much would be odd

Imo

[dense ferry]

And it's more important to make the buildup to the fight better than Draetalk as a whole imo

Speaking of I should rewrite the Schematics decrypted text later

[median scaffold]

I'm genuinely curious what teleporters did to them so that they want to basically make them unwanted

[tough ledge]

#suggestions-posting message
I get the argument but not concrete enough evidence

[median scaffold]

This is an issue on Vanilla's side of things, really

[worthy lintel]

temple being dogshit is a pure vanilla problem

[spice stream]

true

[median scaffold]

@glad portal
Why?

If you really want that kind of an item, download Quality of Terraria

Also, you don't have a proper title, I think

Nvm, that's CIT

[glad portal]

Sorry. It was only a suggestion

ill take a look at that mod you mentioned

[golden sonnet]

void bag exists

[median scaffold]

Also that

(I always forget about it, damn)

[glad portal]

sorry forgot to add something to it

[drowsy plank]

void bag exists

like

this is something void bag does

[glad portal]

you can use buff potions out of the void bag?

[drowsy plank]

yes it

it's considered part of your inventory

[glad portal]

oh ok my mistake. i gotta figure out why that didnt work for me last time i tried it

ill remove my suggestion

[drowsy plank]

i swear you can because i remember using healing potions from it if nothing else

[glad portal]

ill look into that. i dont have one on my current character so will need to make one first

[drowsy plank]

thank

[glad portal]

Thanks. I realised its because i had a setting enabled where only favourited potions would be consumed when using the quick buff button. I hadnt favourited the ones in my void bag last time

[drowsy plank]

@spark sand this is just reversion and specific rework suggestion without any reasoning

[errant cradle]

@spark sand i have good news

[frail fox]

Funny how this is already happening

[drowsy plank]

oh i forgot about that too lmfao

[spark sand]

Ah ok sorry I’m new

[drowsy plank]

rules in pins but like the other mods said the weapon already got reimplemented anyway

[spark sand]

Ok

[whole tundra]

It will still have the same sprite btw

[spark sand]

Oh that’s great

[errant cradle]

would it be fine to delete the message then or should we just let the bot do its work?

[whole tundra]

It's already gone

[errant cradle]

ah alr

👍

[spark sand]

I deleted it because I thought it wasn’t needed anymore

[spark sand]

Where is this list?

[whole tundra]

#changelogs

[errant cradle]

^

[spark sand]

Thanks

[grim tusk]

god dammit why do people want config hell

[violet zephyr]

I don't think they mean a TModLoader configuration.

[errant cradle]

yea ^

fargos iirc uses a separate ui for enabling and disabling certain accessory/armor effects

[errant wren]

yeah

[errant cradle]

mpg just used the word "config" since thats basically the easiest way to describe it

[errant wren]

believe me, that is a blessing

[indigo yacht]

"don't like the extra fall speed from aerospec" that's the best part of the entire armor set 😭

[errant cradle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[errant wren]

a way to toggle armor effects...

i mean, i guess

[indigo yacht]

that's called armor mixing

idk

[errant wren]

it's a bit more complicated than that

[indigo yacht]

yeah ik

personally i would use statigel more if i could toggle the double jump off

but still this feels...

I can't describe it

[errant wren]

the sugg doesn't make me feel strongly about it

[indigo yacht]

i harbor a weak ambivalence

[errant cradle]

i suppose something like this would rely on how much the playerbase would actually like to have this level of customization

[errant wren]

anyways @frosty trellis i think it's Souls-esque

[crude geode]

🤓

[errant cradle]

it works well for fargos due to the sheer amount of effects implemented into accessories and armors

[olive saddle]

I think fargos has this because the fucking soul of eternity can crash some peoples pcs

[errant cradle]

thats probably also a reason yea

[glass arch]

minor spelling mistake, penis exploded 😔

[violet zephyr]

I don't believe anyone would be saying "Oh, woe is me! There is one additional feature that makes customising easier!"

[errant wren]

that was the only thing that bugged me 💀

[errant cradle]

i meant it more in the sense that would the playerbase actually care about a feature like this or not

not in a like or dislike sense

[olive saddle]

I'd turn off like three things and that's probably it

[frosty trellis]

I mean that's just kinda why I'm throwing it out as a suggestion

See if people would want something like it

[olive saddle]

The aerospec fall shit and maybe the glide from ruffian armor in niche scenarios

[frosty trellis]

Quite a number of people also really don't like the auric flying carpet
I love it

But a lot don't

[olive saddle]

Oh yea that too

[errant wren]

auric carpet when it

[errant cradle]

i think i'd like that carpet to be gone too

honestly its surprising it's survived for this long

[indigo yacht]

why do people dislike carpet btw

[frosty trellis]

A multitude of suggestions have been made about it

[olive saddle]

Fucks with your memory

[indigo yacht]

it seems very minor

[errant cradle]

personally it throws me off cause i'll be flying normally and then im just struck with immediate horizontal movement

[olive saddle]

Some are very used to falling and holding space for a slower glide and suddenly you're not falling and run head first into a projectIle

[errant cradle]

not the kind of thing you want for scal and exos imo

[errant wren]

no clearly we have the carpet deal AoE damage when it expires

[indigo yacht]

fair enough

[indigo yacht]

true

[olive saddle]

true

[errant cradle]

and none got implemented?

[gritty plaza]

carpet lasts until you get hit

then your flying carpet has a puncture

[errant wren]

carpet gives you increased dr while you use it

[olive saddle]

Carpet is banger early game

[indigo yacht]

i guess i just refresh my flight way too often for the carpet to ever hinder me

[errant cradle]

oh the last one was locked

i guess there's plans in place

[errant wren]

i've learned to incorporate the carpet in my movement

[indigo yacht]

carpet gives you 8 seconds of invulnerability just like silva revive

[fleet grotto]

i have a suggestion to make but ihave to actually check in game if it's a thing or not :3

[errant wren]

the only time i don't have skill issue

[indigo yacht]

fledgling wings meta

[errant wren]

now this is peak

[olive saddle]

Fledgling wings should scale with progression

Mhm yep

[indigo yacht]

true
...

[crude geode]

Fledgling wings should be unusable on death bc you’re not a fledgling anymore

[olive saddle]

I personally think fledging wings need some kind of boost because they're a bit bad vs bloons and then skyline exist

[violet zephyr]

Pretty sure the plan is "remove it when Auric is reworked".

[indigo yacht]

ok so technically

[errant cradle]

oh thats

far in the future then

[indigo yacht]

fledgling wings can be faster than skyline because skyline can't scale with boot speed

[olive saddle]

Yknow that explains a lot, i dont use bootd

[crude geode]

Wouldn’t it just match the second half of the suggestion tho

[indigo yacht]

[errant cradle]

kinda weird how they won't just remove it now if that is the case since doing so would be very inconsequential

[indigo yacht]

please do start using boots

they make your wings so much faster

[olive saddle]

In vanilla yea they're kinda mandatory

Calamity i dont think so personally

[indigo yacht]

this is specifically in calamity

[olive saddle]

Ill have to see how fast they make you

[indigo yacht]

boots set a minimum speed and if a pair of wings is below that threshold you'll move at the minimum speed set by the boots

[olive saddle]

Good to know tbh

[indigo yacht]

iirc boots stop being faster than wings at lunar (specifically solar and stardust and ig maybe exodus or whatever)

oh and apparently despite that nebula and vortex are fucking slower than hermes boots

[verbal aspen]

they're slow than lightning not hermes but yeah

[maiden quartz]

gigaclam is just built different

[errant wren]

does feel like an oversight

[fleet grotto]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[errant wren]

make fungal symbiotes also reduce health potion cooldown but only when you eat mushrooms

[dense ferry]

Fungal Symbiote removes health potion cooldown for mushrooms

Technically you now have infinite healing if you can mash H enough and have a billion mushrooms

[coral carbon]

holy moly ,,

[drifting socket]

New boss strat. fucking destroy your keboard

[novel belfry]

i got confused for a second there

[fleet grotto]

its not like theres a certain item that makes mushrooms incredibly easy to get

[crude geode]

I think getting carpal tunnel from spamming mushrooms in terraria would be very funny

[indigo yacht]

me when bind quick buff to jump

[fleet grotto]

me when i bind quick heal to scroll wheel

can you even do that

[indigo yacht]

yes

[drowsy plank]

@novel belfry i feel like you're forgetting mushrooms have a 30 second potion cooldown

[novel belfry]

okay, i forgot to mention that the "30 hp per minute mark" was meant to convey that despite their 30 second cooldown, they by default still give 15 hp

[golden sonnet]

If this is just a buff this should be for #1178515062030348308

[drowsy plank]

actually wait yeah @novel belfry u literally said "buff" this for #1178515062030348308

[golden sonnet]

If it's weak but needs a rework as the effect inherently makes it weak or the effect is boring/lacking then it's fine for suggestions, but this is solely based on it's power level

[steep patrol]

it quite weird tho the accessories give mushy buff after consume mushroom but mushroom weapon already give mushy buff on enemy hit

[novel belfry]

oh okay fair

[hollow shell]

Keeping this outta the forum post cuz it's SRS and thus a bit unhelpful but

Would it be funny if Mushy "stacked" by
adding another 1 hp/sec to its regen, but refreshing its duration to full while keeping that new larger regen
and have that be infinitely stackable?
So if you never hit full health, you'd keep getting 30 sec windows to eat another Mushroom and improve your compounding Mushy
1hp/sec, 30 seconds pass, 2hp/sec, 30 secs, 3hp/sec, 30 secs, 4hp/sec... ... 15hp/sec, 30 secs, 16hp/sec...

Eventually, you could reach the best regen in the game and thensome
after like
half an hour

All you have to do is keep periodically taking damage to give yourself the ability to keep eating Mushrooms

[lucid marsh]

what

Oh wait it's not an existing thing

[frosty trellis]

Rebecca

You can map that to a non-h button

We can make this even dumber

Bind it to left click
Turn on the auto clicker
Profit

[tired haven]

Scroll wheel

[fleet grotto]

🐌

[median scaffold]

🐌

[fleet grotto]

This is the secret route for the "Crabulon" ending

[whole tundra]

@dusky monolith that is not a channel to talk in

[drowsy plank]

@dusky monolith not how you use that channel also what does that even mean

[dusky monolith]

oops didn't see this channel

[fleet grotto]

is the counterpoint of pickaxe to just mine around it

[dusky monolith]

yeah pretty much

[whole tundra]

Did you know you can dodge bosses by going around them!????

[dusky monolith]

my lord and Savior. finally he would be blessed with a proper fight

[drowsy plank]

giant clam's fight is so annoying bc sometimes it really does just feel like a "did you clear out a flat enough area" check instead of a boss fight

i think removing that contact damage would make it so much more interesting

[fleet grotto]

i genuinely have no idea why it has contact damage

[whole tundra]

How I deal with Giant Clam
Attack Giant Clam
Go on another platform
Attack Giant Clam more
repeat

[drowsy plank]

truly a giant clam moment

[fleet grotto]

who knows maybe sso will Make Giant Clam Great Again

[drowsy plank]

maybe

[golden sonnet]

Isn't mine to share so won't give details, but sso will make clam much better imo, be it directly or indirectly

@jolly stream I flagged your suggestion as resprite submissions are against the guidelines outlined in the pins, and it lacks any solid reasoning.

[jolly stream]

?

its against guidelines?

i will remove it then sry

[golden sonnet]

But brimmys sprite is known to be outdated yes, and there are plans to replace it eventually

[jolly stream]

nice

[vagrant spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-people-gif-25984064

[golden sonnet]

So it's a known issue, just not super high priority atm

[jolly stream]

kk

I removed it

[safe pine]

does anyone know why Eidolon Tablet doesn't work when cultists are at the temple, cuz that feels like a suggestion I'd want to make but idk if it'd go in bug reports or suggestions

[indigo yacht]

to prevent multiple cultists from being spawned

iirc you also can't use it when lunar events are active and one other condition

[safe pine]

lunar events, cultist is alive, or the 4 cultists at the dungeon are alive

which gets annoying when I obtain the tablet, only to have to do the fight at the dungeon anyways

[indigo yacht]

simply dont kill golem clue

[errant wren]

but what if i wanna use picksaw against lunatic cultist

[umbral gazelle]

kindly ask golem for it, duh

[indigo yacht]

@prikki

[errant wren]

ah i see, i'll summon golem to ask if i can have it
surely i won't have to fight

[signal isle]

hey im new here and I've had an idea for an item but I see that specific items and reworks are blacklisted from #suggestion-posting channel so im wondering if theres anywhere to post here? I have mock code from a little python experience but ive never modded myself can anyone point me in the right direction?

[drowsy plank]

if you're already coding it you should just go check the tmodloader discord for technical help

[signal isle]

i mean I have mock code that would work for python but thats not the language that terraria uses

[indigo yacht]

tmodloader server can help

[signal isle]

ok thanks (:

[indigo yacht]

so... what about hallowed rogue helmet

considering that rogue is either just as or even more barren than summoner during that stretch iirc

you have titan heart (or even statigel somehow), then daedalus, then umbraphile - is daedalus good enough to compete with umbraphile or is it thoroughly outclassed?

[violet zephyr]

I think there'd be quite an issue if Daedalus was on par with Umbraphile, considering Umbraphile is gotten later.

[drowsy plank]

im pretty sure rogue and summoner ore helms might possibly already be planned

[indigo yacht]

oh really?

can i still make a suggestion for it

[indigo yacht]

thanks i dont really play rogue lmao

[tardy geyser]

Umbraphile sort of is the hallowed rogue set, as it takes hallowed bars. It also takes solar veils though which are after clone

[median scaffold]

I don't think Hallowed Rogue is really needed, but it shouldn't bloat it that much either way

[tardy geyser]

Byeah it doesnt have the funny set bonus that lets you dodge like a third of attacks

[drowsy plank]

we do need more rogue sets tho

[violet zephyr]

Hm.

[tardy geyser]

Remove the hallowed bars from umbraphile recipe and add a hallowed rogue helmet i suppose

[median scaffold]

Solar Veil being as useful as never 💪

[violet zephyr]

If Hallowed Rogue is made, Umbraphile could be changed to use Chlorophyte instead, to better mirror the fact that it is the Post-Plantera, class specific armour set (similar to Spectre and Shroomite).

[maiden quartz]

Sounds good

[dense locust]

its not post plant though?

[violet zephyr]

I know. But that is where you are most using it.

[median scaffold]

Post-CalClone

[maiden quartz]

They're the same boss actually

[median scaffold]

True...

We should kill CalClone and move everything it has to Plantera

(Not much, really)

[dense locust]

clone has zero identity

[median scaffold]

True

Solar Veil is ??? from a thematic stand-point

[maiden quartz]

Unique AI at least!

[dense locust]

is that sarcasm I can't tell

[median scaffold]

A weirder Retinazer

[violet zephyr]

Calamitas Clone should drop something that lets you get Enchantements.

I'm sure nothing wrong will go with that.

And totally wouldn't be a balancing nightmare.

[dense locust]

aflame post clone would be hilarious

[median scaffold]

Actually, I like this idea

(Not SCal Enchantments, but something weaker could work, I think)

[violet zephyr]

I don't, because the amount of work to keep them viable and also not extremely powerful for half the game sounds like tedious work.

[maiden quartz]

I'm referencing that one gif

(so yeah)

[frail fox]

Scal enchants except they’re not post-Scal so you can’t just ignore them and actually have to balance them

[violet zephyr]

Exactly.

[frail fox]

Ones from Calamitas could work, just not have there be as many and make them not suck

[errant wren]

https://tenor.com/view/unique-ai-terraria-terraria-calamity-gif-22727304

[dense ferry]

Calamity players when a Boss reuses one line of Vanilla code and doesn't unlock 35 weapons

(This thing is worthless and should be removed from the Mod)

[violet zephyr]

We need to remove Giant Clam, pronto!

[drowsy plank]

this isnt even how calclone acts anymore

[median scaffold]

Well, I didn't think or say it was easy to implement, just that it sounds neat

[drowsy plank]

she's more derivative of scal than the twins at this point

clone brothers still feel kinda lame tho lol

[violet zephyr]

Brimstone Crags Overhaul will be amazing...

[dense ferry]

Yeah the brothers are definitely being changed

[north oracle]

i can't believe providence uses ice queen ai smh

[violet zephyr]

I can't believe Crabulon uses Mourning Wood AI.

[drowsy plank]

it's funny because cal does have a boss that does that and everyone hates him (cryogen)

[north oracle]

astrum deus is a worm boss? that's so boring

[dense ferry]

I think it's genuinely insane how people's #1 complaint about the story of the Mod is that there are barely any side plots

And then their first solution to fixing the Mod is removing every Boss that fuels said side plots

[dense ferry]

Yeah, Cryogen's unlocks are

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466943505663655937/1083946998614470748/1678391318329531.gif

Though the fight is pretty great

[north oracle]

what if we removed the calamity from the calamity

[violet zephyr]

But Calamitas Clone is related to Draedon! We can't have that!!

[north oracle]

then it could just be some vanilla changes as qol

[violet zephyr]

Draedon's too important!

[dense ferry]

Ok tbh I agree with that sentiment but nuking Draedon adjacent Bosses is not the path to take

Like, I'm always the first one to go

"Can't we tie this to anyone else?"

When someone suggests a Draedon related thing

[frail fox]

Dog

[gilded citrus]

The lore needs more side-plots

This boss serves no purpose to the main plot its worthless

[violet zephyr]

Make Golem related to Draedon, because obviously Lihzahrds couldn't be that technologically advanced.

[frail fox]

Golem let Calclone out

[dense ferry]

I'm fine with adding some more stuff to Draedon but only if it only works as a Draedon thing

[dense ferry]

By this logic we'd be removing

[violet zephyr]

Elementals.

[frail fox]

Entire game if it was just wof, ML, yharon, yharim, calamitas, and Dreedon

[violet zephyr]

Two of the Rune of Kos bosses, too.

[dense locust]

people hate cryo?

[north oracle]

what if golem actually made signus

[violet zephyr]

Or just... All of them.

Aquatic Scourge, too.

Crabulon.

[dense ferry]

Desert Scourge, Crabulon, Slime God, Aquatic Scourge, Levana, Aureus, Ravager, Deus (kill Astral Infection while we are at it), Guardians, Folly, Providence, Weaver, Signus, Polter, Old Duke and Primordial Wyrm

[frail fox]

Well CV is needed

[echo leaf]

👁️ 👁️

[dense locust]

they're right you know

[gilded citrus]

Theyre mocking idiots

Not being genuine

Hopefully

[royal tapir]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897614777315123230/1189288948783136888/169AC91D-DC7E-4101-B076-83521C30DFB6.gif

[violet zephyr]

Who knows?

:)

[dense ferry]

These are all of the Bosses whose removal would not change anything about Yharim's plot

[north oracle]

what if the golem temple was actually the secret base of john wulfrum

[dense ferry]

Though, on that logic

You could also remove Perfs and Hive Mind

[frail fox]

Yes

[violet zephyr]

John Wulfrum was a Lihzahrd... Would make sense why Yharim is extremely racist against them...

[north oracle]

true...

[frail fox]

Was gonna said weird they were left out there

[frail fox]

hi cit

[dense ferry]

Oh wait Cryogen could die too

[north oracle]

john wulfrum was oppressed by yharim's racism so he made the wulfrum bots to annoying him every time he went outside

[dense ferry]

Just say Perma died instead of having it be a show of Calamitas' humanity

[frail fox]

Permafrost is just found like the wizard

Easy

[echo leaf]

But if he dies then how can I kill him

[gilded citrus]

Kill the exo mechs theyre unrelated to yharim

[violet zephyr]

East.

[dense ferry]

Wait that too

[dense locust]

necromancy

[dense ferry]

Draedon doesn't need to have a fight

[frail fox]

Draedon fight you himself

[gilded citrus]

Same with scal she isnt yharim aligned by then

[north oracle]

SCal also doesn't need a fight, right
she could just walk up and go "hey kill the auric man"

[echo leaf]

hydrogen bomb versus coughing baby

[dense ferry]

I FUCKING FORGOT CLONE

[north oracle]

the only boss that's actually really important for you to fight before yharim is yharhar himself

[violet zephyr]

True! Let's just get rid of all her emotional turmoil, and make her an NPC that spawns Post-Yharon specifically for Enchantements and nothing else!

[gilded citrus]

Lmao

[north oracle]

exactly

who needs character development when you have murder

[violet zephyr]

True...

[gilded citrus]

Yharim for the past century

[violet zephyr]

Why have other bosses, when you can only have the Yhar himself...

[echo leaf]

Yharon isn’t necessary to fight, he can easily be turned into a side character

[gilded citrus]

We dont need noxus he isnt yharim aligned

[north oracle]

calamity is being entirely restarted
you now start the game, play the entirety of vanilla, then fight yharon and yharim as a single duo fight

[gilded citrus]

Nah nah nah
He has roar of the jungle dragon he has to have a boss fight

[violet zephyr]

Can't kill Xeroc, so might as well not make it a fight.

[dense locust]

true...

[dense ferry]

Anyways yeah jokes aside

I just really hate the whole debate that

"This Boss has no identity we should kill it"

Just because it's a side Boss

[gilded citrus]

FUCKING GIVE THEM IDENTITY INSTEAD

[violet zephyr]

You know what?

I'll say it.

[gilded citrus]

NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE MET WITH A BULLET TO THE SKULL

[north oracle]

some bosses do have 0 identity as well as being side bosses :monksilly:

[dense ferry]

Like, ah yes let's remove all of the super cool side content of Elden Ring

[violet zephyr]

Terraria gives none of the bosses identity.

Nearly all of them show up because they need to.

[echo leaf]

Easy fix to the identity issue- just add an Empress of Light dating sim

[dense locust]

ah see, theres the difference, clone isnt "super cool"

[violet zephyr]

I'm going to erase you from existence.

[gilded citrus]

Thats already a game

Demon hearts

[violet zephyr]

I find Calamitas Clone super cool.

[dense ferry]

Sure, Cal has a problem with having a bit too much content, but every Boss has a lot of potential to be interesting and have their own story

[violet zephyr]

Stuff like that is purely subjective.

I also find the Plague extremely interesting, but it wouldn't be difficult for you to find someone who'd ask for its removal.

[dense ferry]

We aren't fixing anything by simply scraping Bosses that have not had their potential realized off the face of the earth, and I find it particularly infuriating when people tell us about it like it's the right thing to do

[gilded citrus]

Closer to the lazy thing to do

[dense ferry]

The Plague is lowkey imo the thing with the most potential in the entire Mod

[maiden quartz]

plague biome

[violet zephyr]

Oh.

[north oracle]

Plague is important
It establishes that yharim loves bees

[violet zephyr]

Here's a really good example.

What is Queen Slime's identity.

[oblique birch]

when the biome... is plagued...

[violet zephyr]

Go on. Say something about Queen Slime's identity in Vanilla.

[maiden quartz]

transgender

[gilded citrus]

Hardmode king slime

In vanilla

Calamity lore uh
Trans slime god

[dense ferry]

It's the absolute perfect candidate for a side quest where you solve the issue of an army of self-replicating nanomachines

[violet zephyr]

Congratulation.

[dense ferry]

I kinda want to make some of the content in Cal feel infact more like side quests

Plague and OD are the two I envision this the most

[frail fox]

Plague could do a lot, it just hasn’t had any addition content since it’s release basically which is a shame

[dense ferry]

Tbf it's in a pretty solid state in terms of just amount of content

The problem is more that the Plague just

Exists for a while in Post Golem and that's it

[violet zephyr]

If I needed to describe what Plague needed, I guess it would be...

Some sort of...

Anchor?

[gaunt needle]

Summoner boss

[violet zephyr]

Something that properly states its identity and purpose.

[frail fox]

Plague just needs to happen sooner or something, which has been said a million times

[violet zephyr]

Instead of simply existing.

[dense ferry]

I think that's already there, imo what the Plague needs is simply giving it a few more facets and forcing you to interact with all of them in order to summon PBG

[frail fox]

Cause it just spawns post-golem, you get stuff for pbg, kill it, it’s over

[dense ferry]

As I said, make it sort of a side quest

[gilded citrus]

Isnt it being made that you have to also do draedon thingy to get the soawner

[gaunt needle]

What if when you kill mech trio draedon gets angry and breaks plague containment unit

[violet zephyr]

Yes.

[gilded citrus]

That broke uh
Thanks ti yharim years ago iirc

[violet zephyr]

Why would he do that...

[gaunt needle]

Like he just punches it out of anger

[violet zephyr]

Plus it already broke...

[dense ferry]

Of course, foreshadow it a little before it actually gets released and then make so you need to do some stuff to a few enemies, places and whatnot

And then you get the means to spawn PBG

Killing her ends the side quest

If I had my way I have a few Bosses I'd like to turn into "side quests"

Slime God, Cal Clone, Levana, PBG, Deus, Weaver and Old Duke

[dense locust]

is it really 5

[frail fox]

Weaver quest: fly into the atmosphere

[dense locust]

thats just sad

[indigo yacht]

yes

titan heart, daedalus, umbraphile, and hydrothermic

and apparently statigel for spam prior to daedalus

[gaunt needle]

wtf where do the double digits for other classes come from

[dense locust]

probably ooa

[dense ferry]

Well, ok

[indigo yacht]

i did count ooa for summoner

[dense ferry]

Deus and Weaver are more Bosses with quests tied to them

Instead of being side quest Bosses

[gilded citrus]

No signus

[dense ferry]

Signus is a long story

[gilded citrus]

I have time

[errant wren]

signus lore when it

i'm late to this conversation

all i know is side quest bosses

or something

[indigo yacht]

I didn't count it for any other classes, but i did count armor sets with multiple helmets (so cobalt counted for mage, ranger, and melee because if i didn't count that then I couldn't count daedalus or hydrothermic for rogue... and come on rogue armor is already on life support)

[gaunt needle]

2 eogue armor sets...

[median scaffold]

Rogue should become the new typeless class

[gaunt needle]

Thrower

[dense locust]

tbf it does make sense
keep in mind you average like 3 new armor sets per boss from premech to post golem

[errant wren]

i miss thrower sometimes. but then i remember that no the fuck i don't

[indigo yacht]

🔥

[dense ferry]

Actually Levana wouldn't really make for a good side quest Boss

[indigo yacht]

anyways i assume my suggestion is fine enough

[median scaffold]

Thorium's thrower is probably neat

[dense locust]

post empress rogue armor when

[errant wren]

i appreciate the work that was done, not that i ever fully played thorium as thrower

[indigo yacht]

hearing you out

[errant wren]

yeah it's pretty good imo

[gaunt needle]

What if terraprisma armor

[frail fox]

Free Terraprisma set bonus

[gaunt needle]

8 terraprismas for helmet, 24 for chestplate, 16 for leggings

[errant wren]

[glass arch]

its terrifying

[errant wren]

this is what we need implemented

[median scaffold]

What do you mean exactly?

[violet zephyr]

All summons are converted to Terraprisma.

It is all you have. It is all you get.

[indigo yacht]

i have to say, deus' summoning method is kind of hilarious
like yeah sure just use this material for a pre hardmode boss armor on the ominous altar to summon the fucking second last hardmode boss

i did not mean to forward that

[dense locust]

fun fact: there are 39 armor sets in hardmode and only 15 post moon lord

[glass arch]

shinobi sigil and guide to expert throwing

[novel belfry]

hardmode armor

[indigo yacht]

pre hardmode boss

before any hardmode bosses

[gaunt needle]

Preboss hardmode sounds a bit better

[novel belfry]

well your way of saying it is really confusing

[gaunt needle]

Maybe post wof

[errant wren]

yeah that would be it

[indigo yacht]

am i crazy for saying that there's less post moon lord content than prehardmode content

[dense locust]

you are not

[indigo yacht]

awesome

[median scaffold]

You're :true:, tho

[gaunt needle]

There are less bosses pre-HM (iirc)

[dense locust]

post ml is probably my least favorite part of the game
it just feels baren

[gaunt needle]

And obviously bosses are the only content calamity has

[gilded citrus]

Dragon folly event when

[indigo yacht]

real tbh

[median scaffold]

Post-ML feels like a boss rush the most

[gaunt needle]

(everyone plays with qol mods so it is actually true)

[dense locust]

not everyone plays with qol

[glass arch]

ah yes

[dense locust]

in fact a solid 50% of the playerbase plays with very few qols

[glass arch]

people use additional mods to remove content that isnt bosses

[indigo yacht]

I don't use qol besides recipe browser and like... boss checklist

[glass arch]

so surely the only content is bosses

[median scaffold]

Which is understandable — it doesn't have much besides bosses in terms of progression (post-DoG moons and eclipse are not real, btw)

[dense ferry]

The only QoL I use is Magic Storage

I'm not going to spend two hours organizing my chests, sorry!

[median scaffold]

Fair enough

[gaunt needle]

Lame (understandable though)

[frail fox]

Post-ML has about 5 things that aren’t exactly bosses it’s great

[dense ferry]

I can hope it will be real

[gilded citrus]

When i get upgrades on my pc and then start playing again i will prob nuke almost all the qol mods i have

[indigo yacht]

it only takes like 5 minutes and planning ahead but I'm not one to harsh on people for playing the way they want to

[dense ferry]

But we will take a while to get there

[echo leaf]

i use trash slot 😔

[gaunt needle]

qol detox

[echo leaf]

please dont bully me 🥺

[median scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/salami-salamander-lumerian-gif-25839987

[violet zephyr]

You're so goddamn lazy!

[gilded citrus]

Honestly more then i expected smh

[gaunt needle]

Do you mean auto trash or something

[indigo yacht]

what even is trash slot

is that just like

the item doesn't disappear when you die

[frail fox]

Community Slot

[boreal lichen]

consume

[indigo yacht]

ur so real for that one

[gilded citrus]

Auto trash or the slot that deletes items

[dense locust]

I still cannot believe this is a real mod
just make it so community is a passive buff while in the inventory at that point

[echo leaf]

it gives you a second trash slot

[median scaffold]

Using inventory (and Piggy Bank / Void Bag, ig) as your only way of holding items sounds... not fun, but a challenge nonetheless, lol

[indigo yacht]

lmao????

[novel belfry]

i am the kind of person to use wing slot out of the principle that wing slot should be added to vanilla

[echo leaf]

i don’t use quality of terraria’s trash slot tho

for some reason it adds five and that’s too many

[dense locust]

wing slot should not be vanilla

[indigo yacht]

considering that wings nerf bohb, no

[dense locust]

wings should still be a decicion

[gaunt needle]

Why would wing slot be vanilla

Why would wing slot be vanilla

[novel belfry]

mainly just because people use them so regularly

[dense locust]

ok

that makes it so theres even less reason to make wingslot vanilla

[gaunt needle]

I frequently switch to witch broom with no mobility items in vanilla

[indigo yacht]

boot slot
ram slot
glove slot
celestial shell slot

COMMUNITY SLOT

[median scaffold]

Ankh Shield slot

[indigo yacht]

true

[gaunt needle]

Moab slot

[median scaffold]

Specifically Ankh Shield
Nothing else

[median scaffold]

True...

[dense locust]

suddenly there is almost zero downside to not running wings
it makes build variety actively worse for zero tangible upside while also killing mount viability

[dense ferry]

Wings are basically mandatory for every single build unless you want to be funny and use BoB but even then I think it's just wrong to say they should have a unique slot

[dense locust]

like what the actual fuck

[indigo yacht]

lucky horseshoe slot

[gilded citrus]

At that rate just have a soul of eternity slot and equip it at the beggining of the game

[frail fox]

Damage accessory slot

[dense ferry]

Because, yeah

[indigo yacht]

i agree

[dense ferry]

There are still options of things you can use

[gaunt needle]

Actually calamity should add draedons heart slot

[violet zephyr]

Slot for every single type of accessory.

[frail fox]

Speech bubble

[gaunt needle]

Like it's there from the start of the game, except you can't use it until exo mecha

[indigo yacht]

i mean, bohb is still pretty viable if you know how to play it. not for all of the game but for a lot longer than people give it credit for

[violet zephyr]

Shield slot, Boot slot, Expert Mode Accessory slot, Balloon slot...

Dash slot...

[indigo yacht]

viable as in "does just as well as wings" not viable as in "technically possible"

[gaunt needle]

Bohb is literally the best mobility item for the entirety of pre hm

[echo leaf]

defiled <3

[novel belfry]

i see

thanks for the lesson on why wingslot would suck lads

[indigo yacht]

i may be weird but i don't like wings, earlygame i actively dislike them and then later in the game i just feel apathetic towards them

they just seem... boring i guess

[maiden quartz]

Why stop at accessory slots, make specialized slots on the hotbar
Pickaxe slot, torch slot, recall slot

[indigo yacht]

recall slot.........

[echo leaf]

Then everybody will complain about whether the sword slot should come before or after the gun slot

[crude geode]

true!

[gaunt needle]

Make it so the slot order is chosen based on what weapon you use more

And then also the more you use the weapon, the better it gets

[indigo yacht]

wait

[violet zephyr]

How about...

[indigo yacht]

i had the best idea ever

[violet zephyr]

Weapon slot.

[crude geode]

holy leveling batman

[indigo yacht]

your accessory slots scale with progression

[echo leaf]

holy shit genius

[gilded citrus]

That already happens…

[indigo yacht]

shut up

[dense locust]

you mean like... proficency...

[echo leaf]

hit level 10 with a weapon to unlock a new slot

[gilded citrus]

[echo leaf]

level requirement increases exponentially

[dense locust]

so 100 for the next one>

[indigo yacht]

Accessory slot farms

[echo leaf]

players still figure out how to get stuck on Yharon

[indigo yacht]

lmao

[gilded citrus]

For the first 20 levels you just need to kill one thing to level up

[echo leaf]

Yes exactly

[gilded citrus]

Level 30 requires the 32 bit integer limit

[gaunt needle]

Make it so levels get easier exponentially

So like first 10 levels would take hours to grind

But then you just get them instantly

[echo leaf]

lets call it the “No new players allowed” update

Or the “Gatekeeping” update…

[gaunt needle]

Calamity mmorpg

[indigo yacht]

add microtransactions to calamity

[gilded citrus]

Calamity metroidvania when

[gaunt needle]

Calamity songsilk

[gilded citrus]

They should add reign of yharim to calamity

[gaunt needle]

Yhalamity

[errant wren]

add the entirety of terraria mods to calamity

including calamity

we'll call it... calamity 2

[maiden quartz]

It's really obvious, who would be against double the content?

[sleek turret]

yea add hallowed rogue helmet

and the ancient variant

[echo leaf]

calamity overhaul

[errant wren]

calamity 2: overhaul; 3rd edition prologue episode 5 final chapter epilogue: respite

i love steam gift card

[indigo yacht]

wouldn't really make sense because there wasn't a rogue set that existed before the resprite

wow! fifty dollar!

[errant wren]

we'll just pretend it does

[sleek turret]

vanilla didn't have a summoner set prior to the resprite and they added it anyways

as in hallowed summoner set

[errant wren]

it would be funny to have both

[gilded citrus]

Neither did a summoner helm

[indigo yacht]

ok but that would necessitate 2 new sprites instead of one

[errant wren]

ok but then we'd have a suggestion saying to add an ancient version for consistency

[violet zephyr]

Simple solution: Ignore it.

[indigo yacht]

ok but by then that means it will already have been added and i can rest peacefully

[errant wren]

i feel like it would get like 98 votes then get a lock for planned content

[indigo yacht]

😭

[errant wren]

the "add ancient variant" sugg, that is

[sleek turret]

waaah 2 sprites needed

[violet zephyr]

Five hundred votes.

[echo leaf]

add ancient versions of NPCs

also make Yharon an NPC

[sleek turret]

Return to 1.1 sprites

[errant wren]

ancient shimmer

[sleek turret]

true actually there's that now

ancient ore bricks

[echo leaf]

water with a pink tint

[golden sonnet]

@safe pine worth noting is you can just place a single tile to stop the cultists from spawning, you definitely don't need any cheat mods for that. That being said your suggestion is still valid

[safe pine]

true, I'll edit it to mention such, but that's also such a weird niche thing that I've never heard of in my... almost 2k hours so far playing terraria

which ik other people have played more, that's rookie in comparison, but nonetheless

[golden sonnet]

Yeah, your suggestion is still valid because many people don't know about it, and you probably shouldn't have to place a tile exactly where the tablet things spawns to make an item more convenient

Just pointing out that it can be done

[gilded citrus]

Thanks

[safe pine]

yeah, mentioned it as such, suggestion is fixed in that regard

and thanks for the tip, either until it gets fixed or if it doesn't, will def be useful to know

[glass arch]

@indigo yacht yknow i just noticed about your hallowed rogue suggestion

you use it would be cool

or at least an adjacent argument

[indigo yacht]

i use it as a joke yeah

i think my other two arguments are more than sufficient

[fleet grotto]

hallow dodge is now on umbraphile

[nimble totem]

#suggestions-posting message I don't think they're taking armor suggestions right now, since they're already working on a huge change to how armor sets are handled

[dense locust]

?

[nimble totem]

They won't be doing the "every class gets a helmet for this set" anymore. Instead, each set is gonna buff 2 classes, like the ooa armor sets

[indigo yacht]

i was unaware they were also intending to completely revamp all vanilla armor sets besides all the calamity ones they mentioned

[nimble totem]

I'm not sure if it's all vanilla sets, but I was under the impression that hallowed would be included in the rework

[indigo yacht]

why

[drowsy plank]

yeah no i never heard anything about that

it's just the calamity sets

[errant wren]

it would be kinda dumb to do that to vanilla sets

no clearly hallowed is a melee set and the different helmets work for different melee specialties

[drifting socket]

Tank Helmet, Damage Helmet, Mobility Helmet, Yo-Yo Helmet, Mixed Summoner Helmet, DoT buff helmet

[distant gyro]

why stop there... 3 legging variants and each permutation of a helmet and a legging gives a different sub bonus

i feel the need to clarify i am joking no one please actually consider this

[fleet grotto]

every copy of calamity armor is personalized

[distant gyro]

in any mod ever

[echo leaf]

a new armor set with completely randomized stats

[errant wren]

alternate universe where leggings are the armor pieces that switch out for different classes

[echo leaf]

you can reroll them using resources available to patreon donors or purchasable for $0.99

[drifting socket]

Helmet that makes the stats randomize every second

[novel belfry]

ah beetle armor, the melee armor that changes its effects based on its chestpiece and not the helmet

[drifting socket]

Turtgle armor

[nimble totem]

Then that's mb, I apologize

[random hound]

okay might just be a complaint but shattered community takes SO DAMN LONG to farm

it'd be a really minor change but it would save people so much time

[nimble totem]

Wdym?

[dense locust]

you take a regular community
you take it to scal

[golden sonnet]

they mean the rage levels

[errant wren]

leave it to the community to- i shouldn't say that i might get blasted

[random hound]

yes

i've been farming pumpkin moon with zerg for 30+ minutes

[golden sonnet]

events are pretty ineffective for rage farming, bosses are best

especially boss rush

[random hound]

idk

i'm peaking with 200k+ dps

when the minibosses hit me i regain rage

and the pumpkings drop hearts directly above me

(almost) afk farming

still gotta use rage when it runs out and refills

which is somewhat infrequent

it's not difficult just extremely slow and annoying asf is my point

ill try boss rush tho

[golden sonnet]

On the one hand, farming for max levels is entirely unnecessary and the accessory is pretty much endgame when stuff doesn't really matter, on the other hand farming for it is just tedium and pretty annoying, and has no reason to take that long. So I mostly agree with this

[indigo yacht]

make it a requirement that you need to re kill every boss in the game to max out rage meter

[median scaffold]

Elsi, can we explode you?

[errant wren]

we could even add some sort of re-fight mode that makes the bosses harder

[indigo yacht]

that would be far too convenient

[golden sonnet]

no way, community 2!

[errant wren]

surely it wouldn't be filled with malice

[golden sonnet]

unironically that would be more convenient tho lmao

[dense locust]

erm something something ozz's permission

[indigo yacht]

2.1.001 Sunken Sea Overhaul
2.1.002 Multiplied Shattered Community damage requirement for every level by 10

[golden sonnet]

this is correct yes, any suggestion would need to be run by Ozz

[whole tundra]

I think this is the only time where "I think they look cool" is tolerated

[olive saddle]

This is such a small suggestion that yea

it also

makes sense

no recipe for em

like what other reason besides "they look cool"

"i want them in my base" is another way of saying "it looks cool"

[gritty plaza]

"it looks cool" is valid for this

What other chests aren't renewable?

Ig astral but that's the only other one I can think of

[median scaffold]

Astral is not renewable only because it doesn't have a key

[gilded citrus]

How are the other biome chests crafted with their keys

[median scaffold]

Shimmer

[gilded citrus]

Ah

Shimmer astral chest
Get 2 astral chest

[median scaffold]

Hmm, maybe we should ask the person to make the suggestion "Make Astral and Ancient Treasure chests renewable"?

[dusky crag]

ok 👍

[dusky crag]

mitosis

[coral carbon]

Stupid idea: Astrum Aureus drops an Astral Chest

[median scaffold]

A slightly less stupid idea: Astral Creates have Astral Chests in them

[fleet grotto]

craft with chest and aureus cells this shit too easy

alternatively put an astral injection in a normal chest and it'll become an astral chest. like biome mimics but it doesn't evil

[indigo yacht]

i have a better solution

which may or may not involve a new mini boss, fishing, and the removal of the melee class

[rigid turtle]

..did i post suggestion right? ^^'

[fleet grotto]

Yeah but i don't think it's a very good one :(

[median scaffold]

A little bit too specific

[fleet grotto]

I personally have this problem too since i bind hook to shift, but it's not too big of an issue

[median scaffold]

Rebind your dash

[indigo yacht]

hook the ground

[fleet grotto]

Exactly what i do

[indigo yacht]

i think a config option is just, cluttering because it only changes anything in one very specific scenario and is easy to work around

[rigid turtle]

but shift is a really good bind for dash..

[fleet grotto]

easy to work around as stated

[indigo yacht]

not that many people use shift, most of the people I've met use F or put it on their mouse or some other fucked up bind

[rigid turtle]

hook the ground? or wdym by "work around"?

[fleet grotto]

Hook, disable default dash & use ball and chain, ride any mount, just don't have it bound to shift

[rigid turtle]

hm, MMB will probably work..

[fleet grotto]

It's an incredibly specific situation which rarely applies

[indigo yacht]

oh yeah you could just favorite and unfavorite ball and chain every time you needed to shift click something

although that's probably the least convenient of the "press one extra button" solutions

anyways assuming this is a worthy change to make it shouldnt be a config option because like how often are you intentionally dashing while having a chest open

the argument of "just hook" goes both ways, just press escape

[ancient prairie]

Hey cog, whats wrong about my suggestion?

[drowsy plank]

@ancient prairie im pretty sure this is too high effort, and i know this has been pretty thoroughly rejected by devs before

[ancient prairie]

Oh okay

[drowsy plank]

i might be misremembering

[ancient prairie]

Hmm

[ancient prairie]

Even found a suggestion similar to mine
#suggestions-voting message

But i agree that my suggestion may be too hard to do it

[drowsy plank]

i should probably make a dev make the call on effort but i really dont expect this to make it through

[ancient prairie]

Neither do it

[drowsy plank]

ill remove it until i can confirm

[ancient prairie]

But personally
Do you think it would be cool?

When dog bites you and in your headphones you hear "delicious..."?

For example

[indigo yacht]

some things, i think, are better without a voice

[gritty plaza]

Giving dog a voice feels wrong

I never thought of him as literally yelling I thought it was telepathy or something

Giant interdimensional god-eating worms don't tend to have human-compatible vocal chords yknow?

[vestal crater]

I think dogs voice is just like

GRAAAH

Worm noices

[gritty plaza]

Dog's voice is the sound of a boulder falling down a cliff into a black hole imo

[vestal crater]

Actually

Ye

[indigo yacht]

supreme calamitas already has a voice anyways, in her boss theme

[vestal crater]

She’s British

[gritty plaza]

Wait she does?

[fleet grotto]

In the dokuro video yeah

[gritty plaza]

I thought she just laughed at the beginning

Oh yeah

Those sort of chanting birs

[frail mantle]

no she speaks

[gritty plaza]

*bits

[fleet grotto]

couldn't leave us well enough alone, couldn't you?!?! or smth

[gritty plaza]

Oh

[frail mantle]

old dialogue

[gritty plaza]

I should watch that

[fleet grotto]

https://youtu.be/C-wdzkGhWYw?si=S3c-vfqNlJY_ZkWr imo

[indigo yacht]

why u so whiny girl

[fleet grotto]

winnie the pooh

[gritty plaza]

I'm fucking pissed evaporates the ocean

[fleet grotto]

relatable

[glass arch]

i dont play tmod to play candy crush

[maiden quartz]

LMFAOOOOO

[ancient prairie]

Lol

[ancient prairie]

So he can telepaticaly speak to us
Its still speech that is for us translated to our language

Beacuse otherwise there wouldnt be texts only roars

[ancient prairie]

Ye, thats why i only suggested these four, that have voice lines
Dog, dradeon, calamitas witch and terminus

[indigo yacht]

every town npc in the game also has voice lines