suggestions-discussion

[novel belfry]

not necessarily balanced

[drowsy plank]

gfb type change

[potent raft]

would changing flask of nanites to also inflict electrified or some other electricity debuff be a good idea? since i dont think theres a electricity flask and electicity debuffs seem to be alot less common than the others. Not to mention confusion is useless against bosses making flask of nanites less useful.

[drowsy plank]

ive wanted that for so long but i dont think it's ever gotten through

[violet zephyr]

Never reached the developers.

Last time someone tried was two months ago.

[hollow shell]

crack idea:

Make Confusion be an electricity debuff, and make it deal damage only if the enemy is moving towards the player.
So on enemies where Confusion works normally to cause them to move away from you, it'll just have its normal effect with nothing added. But on enemies whose AI does not account for Confusion so they still move towards the player, the DoT kicks in, which still makes it worth inflicting.

[drowsy plank]

that sounds very funny

[indigo yacht]

i mean

how does your brain work? with electricity

[drowsy plank]

first try

[indigo yacht]

ignore the double typo

[hollow shell]

"how does you work with electricity"
Become an electrician.

But yeah indeed indeed

All psychic effects are actually just specialized electrical effects

[errant wren]

it does actually seem reasonable

i was just gonna say that a sugg should go something like "make flask of nanites have meaningful use, at least against bosses"

[fleet grotto]

i think it would be cool if it had a similar effect to nanite bullets with slight homing, but also, no, what the fuck??

(some things should stay a concept)

probably should check if it works with only calamity

[drowsy plank]

there's no way this is intentional

[tropic yoke]

There's no way

lemme test rq

I'm gonna tweak if it works

It

It's in the mod? They just don't drop

[drowsy plank]

wow

[distant gyro]

🐛

[tropic yoke]

got deleted>

[drowsy plank]

okay that's definetly a bug tho lmao

[distant gyro]

also dealt with

[indigo yacht]

banished to the void

[tropic yoke]

🙏_ _

[tropic yoke]

ty

The crazy thing

[distant gyro]

unfortunately you have to wait until sso

[tropic yoke]

How long that bug might've been in

But no one knew

[golden sonnet]

kinda funny how long this has been unnoticed, shows how used they are

[distant gyro]

til the wall of bugs

[tropic yoke]

Because no one would ever build with living holy fire or some shit like wtf

[tropic yoke]

Yeah

dw now I'm using them

:)

[distant gyro]

1.4.4 port

[tropic yoke]

a

[golden sonnet]

My main thing is, I would just paint the other fire types tbh

[tropic yoke]

So like

At least months

[distant gyro]

the culprit with most tiles

[tropic yoke]

Nah cuz the light color

Gotta be exact

[drowsy plank]

true

[tropic yoke]

Probably why they were added in the first place

[novel belfry]

they should add :3 fire blocks

[tropic yoke]

Living Gloom Fire would be sick, the blue ravager fire

[dense ravine]

cog more like fog

more like pog

more like bog

[fleet grotto]

🐶

[tropic yoke]

🗣️🗣️🗣️_ _

[sand marlin]

I haven't gotten to hardmode on my 100% researching calamity yet

And wow that would've been evil to come up on

[echo leaf]

living fire is a valid housing wall iirc so you can build housing with walls with no collision with them

I think there’s one block that both has no collision and allows furniture on it…

[rugged belfry]

ik bubbles behave similarly but don't count as home tiles

[cold cosmos]

Idk if it's been fixed but last I checked Master GFB mechs literally aren't beatable, is that worth a suggestion?

[dense locust]

I mean

its not like you need them dead for anything other than completions sake

[cold cosmos]

Still, it's a little strange to have bosses that actually don't function

[dense locust]

(also I'm fairly certain they will technically be killable next update)

[cold cosmos]

Oh so it's already known about and on the fix list?

Alright

[dense locust]

no no

as in "there will be a way to kill them without triggering the despawn" not "this is being fixed"

[cold cosmos]

What will be the way?

[dense locust]

oneshotting

[cold cosmos]

...How

[dense locust]

vitriolic viper, for one

[cold cosmos]

What's that again?

[dense locust]

one of the many weapons that is being made game breakingly overpowered in gfb next update

[cold cosmos]

Huh

So another Supernova then

Wait but that's post OD

[median scaffold]

GFB is kinda all over the place, so, yeah...

[drowsy plank]

there's already a bug report for mechdusa despawning

[median scaffold]

I hate ghost messages.

[fleet grotto]

it's bots

[golden sonnet]

50 trillion scammed accounts

[frail mantle]

500 steam gift card links

[errant wren]

steam gift cards? oh boy, i should click those links!

[fleet grotto]

Can't wait to get 500 Cigarettes

[errant wren]

scam bot themed rogue weapon

[sleek turret]

Adobe Gratis Edicion 2026 --->

[frail fox]

Such great weapons

Agreed that Asteroid staff is the absolute worse, Astral staff is also right before it too which makes it worse (which is also terrible because Star Shower exists but yeah)

Missing Vesuvius Left Click btw @tardy geyser

[tardy geyser]

Ah yeah you right thank you. I’ll add that and starfall, didn’t realize that was reworked to be from the sky instead of the cursor

[fleet grotto]

i think galactus blade is fine

it's an upgrade to star wrath is it not

[frail fox]

Galactus Blade is getting reworked anyway so no reason to include it yeah

[hollow verge]

leave my boy asteroid staff alone

[hollow shell]

Damn, true
That's a lotta weapons

[indigo yacht]

i mean

when you consider it with a perspective including other "genres" of weapons like flails, or boomerangs, or shotguns, or snipers, not really

it's sort of just another... type, i guess, of weapon

personally i dont care at all if they get removed, the only weapon that works like this that I actually like is, well, the meteor staff

[crude geode]

literally just bigger meteor staff, but at the same time as the cooler lunar flare

[indigo yacht]

actually i do kind of have a vendetta against icicle staff, somewhat out of character considering it's both a mage and ice-themed weapon but it kinda sucks

[tardy geyser]

I don’t think those are as egregious as the meteor staff-esque weapons. A lot of them are just a projectile that falls from the sky, sometimes with some dust, an explosion, and/or a debuff. To be clear I’m fine with most of them, that’s why I used the word some in the suggestion title. It’s okay to have one once in a while. However astral staff and star shower, and asteroid staff and lunar flare are just too much in one spot.

[prisma sedge]

And a partridge in a pear tree

[indigo yacht]

clearly alula australis was the peak of "projectiles falling from the sky"

When used, it fires an aurora beam which travels in a cosine pattern.
god it even has maths baked into it

[tardy geyser]

True that one’s pretty cool

[tropic yoke]

Realest patreon suggestion ever

Also Prismatic Armour's set bonus which is literally the deathtail staff for 5 seconds

[indigo yacht]

we don't talk about prismatic set bonus

[tropic yoke]

LMAO

[median scaffold]

Isn't it donor?

Yep

Huh, that's... neat
(The staff, not the armor)

[indigo yacht]

ah yes rectifying questionable debuff balance decisions

[median scaffold]

The debuffs themselves are more questionable, tbh

[indigo yacht]

lol

i just remember plasma rod

[tropic yoke]

Should I make a suggestion for cinder blossom grass to not spawn these weird blue bubbles and make purple or brimstone-lava-coloured particles?

[novel belfry]

that build looks cool

[tropic yoke]

ty 🙏

[novel belfry]

dont mind me if i copy it

[tropic yoke]

_ _

[stark locust]

i just got the idea of having a popup/message in chat that says something like"it appears that you have the calamity overhaul mod enabled, we highly recommend that you DO NOT use this mod due to it being very buggy and likily to corrupt save files, PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK"

any worth in suggesting it?

[grim tusk]

i wish we could do that

pretty sure its against Tmod TOS

altho preventing the mod from loading is 100% against Tmod TOS (afk pets drama situation years back)

[stark locust]

is stealing code not?

could add it to the workshop description maybe?

[indigo yacht]

i doubt very many people would see it

[stark locust]

yeah but atleast some people will

[grim tusk]

yes lol, although Paper Luigi has not taken action against it so :/

if Paper Luigi comes after Cal Overhaul its so fucking dying

[stark locust]

could you fill me in some more about him?

stars above right?

[olive saddle]

I think making the cal overhaul creator eat sand until they vomit it up like the pharoahs curse until he deletes it from the steam workshop is a much better suggestion

[glass arch]

the thing is

its an addon vs literally the biggest mod on the workshop by a mile

if cal does it its gonna get noticed

if cal overhaul does something against tos its highly likely itll fly under the radar

[lucid marsh]

What's this new situation?

[olive saddle]

tf2 merc laugh

[errant wren]

i couldn't even say what i wanted to

[olive saddle]

is a suggestion about trimming certain sounds down decent? i notice some have a bit of dead air and i think it could be removed in favor of some slight optimization. this is an example. the audible sound ends at around 1.8 sconds, and the remaining ~1.2 are not only hard to hear but most of the time its silent and i think it could be phased out

[frail mantle]

There’s a decently popular addon with stolen code from the stars above and (formerly) WotG/infernum

And also it’s apparently very buggy

[lucid marsh]

Yikes

Calamity should have a message pop up that says "the addon you're using is made of stolen code! Please don't use it"

[sand marlin]

And then people mistake it for Infernum because when Infernum is enabled all issues must be caused by Infernum no exception

[median scaffold]

No Infernum is also an issue on Infernum's end

[umbral gazelle]

THE FAULT LIES WITH INFERNUM!!!!

[golden sonnet]

The best part is it's pretty hostile with interactions and actively forces its AI over infernums

Surely you are fighting infernum mechs and not overhaul overriding infernum mechs

[sand marlin]

You know, despite Infernum specifically being made to override other AI

[golden sonnet]

Yeah, and with infernum it's tied to a mode at least so that kinda makes sense, if you don't want the ai then disable the mode

Where with overhaul it's just there and you can't avoid it

[sand marlin]

They added a config for it at some point but that is so out of the way

[grim tusk]

THE FAULT LIES WITH CALAMITY OVERHAUL, ALL OF IT!

[median scaffold]

Nope, Infernum is the real culprit

[grim tusk]

and it got too popular before it could be smited with no issue from the playerbase whatsover

by the time we noticed it existed it was too late for us

yet Stars Above is the one that could take action as it steals code from them

[grim tusk]

pretty sure they didnt take the WotG and Infernum code out of the mod

[hollow shell]

Would be a very very minor optimization.
And that particular sound does continue through the full length of the file. If you turn your volume up you can hear it. It's a smooth fade-out.

[sand marlin]

Do you mean Alcohol Poisoning

[tropic yoke]

Same thing

Poison makes u sick

_ _

[median scaffold]

On my way to make Alcohol minmaxxing much easier

[sand marlin]

Poisoning and Sickness would've been the same word if they were the same thing clearly

[tropic yoke]

Bro it's a tMod debuff chill damn

No one cares

[sand marlin]

You seem to apparently

[echo leaf]

[hollow shell]

Not sure how I feel about this

considering Alcohol Poisoning is meant to be like a
game mechanic

A balancing measure

((and Sickness is already the 2nd most prevalent debuff category, after Heat.
So it's not like Sickness-reducing stuff needs the buff either))

[sand marlin]

Maybe I should've said the same thing earlier

Err okay I wouldn't have thought of your response but basically negative on this

[hollow shell]

The Weak Brimstone Flames and Withered debuffs that act as downsides to Enchantments, for example, are not debuff categorized
Nor is Holy Inferno classified as Heat

[echo leaf]

Makes sense

[drowsy plank]

okay but consider

it would be really funny

[indigo yacht]

sickness is the negative life regen right

[sand marlin]

Alcohol Poisoning is a very drastic DoT/negative life regen yeah

I have to be specific with this because it just confuses me with how it could mean the regular alcohol buff reducing life regen

[indigo yacht]

oh, so we're talking about poisoning?

[indigo yacht]

yeah that's what i was confused about-

[drowsy plank]

seems it's -3 for every alcohol debuff so going over the cap to 4 makes it -12?

brimflame bonus is -21... so that's a little more than half

@echo leaf it halves the duration, not the damage, and considering alcohol sickness has infinite duration as long as you have alcohol buffs...

yknow

honestly im curious how viable using radiance with alcohol sickness would be on live considering the classification would change... literally nothing actually from what i can see

[crude geode]

Draedon tech when it

[whole tundra]

The lack of clarity is already being lowered

Also this #suggestions-voting message

[median scaffold]

What is Draedon Tech?

[indigo yacht]

i assume the weapons+codebreaker

[ashen warren]

Who makes the calamity weapon sprites?

[indigo yacht]

a number of different developers, why

[ashen warren]

I am also making sprites but i want to ask them some questions if they dont mind.

[median scaffold]

Triangle, Dia, most likely Moonburn, Mihaii, etc.

[ashen warren]

Alright

[median scaffold]

You better of going to #calamity-update-talk then, although I don't know if they will or not answer you

[ashen warren]

Alright. anyways thanks for helping!!

[echo leaf]

I swear there's something that halves the damage of sickness

[hollow shell]

Join this server if you haven't already
https://discord.gg/CKByxd5
There's a spriting channel, and an official asset submission channel

[ashen warren]

Oh wow that wil help alot tyy :)

[hollow shell]

👍👍

[indigo yacht]

even if there is, i honestly still don't know how i feel about this change because i don't feel like it would benefit really anyone at all? like, the only demographic i can really see getting any use out of it would maybe be nohitters who have health to burn, and i think my views on tailoring items to nohitting have been made pretty clear already

maybe like

the demographic that uses osc as well

[golden sonnet]

yep, a good number of sprites in the mod are community submitted, so your question of who makes the weapon sprites is partially here

[hollow shell]

anyway this Draedon tech suggestion is.. very broad

@deep crow It might help if you described why you feel unsatisfied with the current system. What makes it feel "barebones" to you?

[indigo yacht]

it feels partially born of just. not interacting with it

because they mention the only time they use it is when they're required to

since the weapons and such are just optional

[golden sonnet]

Agreed, it's far too broad and the issue of it only being used for draedon is already changed next update

[drowsy plank]

this system is barebones because i didnt use it until the end of the game once

[golden sonnet]

#suggestions-voting message

[median scaffold]

Potions

Accessories

Armors

[deep crow]

I meant that I never had a real reason to before the exomechs

[median scaffold]

"Fixed" in the next update

[deep crow]

But yeah, I agree, my first response was too broad. My mistake

[hollow shell]

I am averse to the Draedon stuff myself but not necessarily cuz it's barebones, more so cuz I don't feel like the items gained are worth the effort
Need to find the lab and grab the schematic and battery makers, build the required codebreaker components and decrypt it, actually craft the weapons with materials, charge them up...
all to get just..
weapons,
just like you can get as direct enemy drops or simple crafting recipes,
that don't necessarily do anything special nor iirc are they balanced to be noticeably more powerful

[indigo yacht]

i hate the battery system

it feels designed to make the weapons more obnoxious to use without any benefit (?)

[drowsy plank]

charge was a mistake but that's neither here nor there, it exists now and we just kind of have to deal with it bc i dont think it's going anywhere anytime soon

[median scaffold]

It has a benefit

[deep crow]

Yeah, thats a better way to put my frustrations with the system

[median scaffold]

...increased crit chance and damage

[hollow shell]

I would be fine with the effort required to get them and use them if they were always S tier weapons

... Are they?

[drowsy plank]

never

[median scaffold]

Tracking Disk and Pulse Pistol, ig

[drowsy plank]

wouldnt make much sense either because knowing terraria players people would just use nothing but draedon weapons if they were explictly designed to be stronger

[indigo yacht]

why can't that be like an optional "empowering" thing instead of a flat requirement to use 💔

[golden sonnet]

yeah, tracking disc has gone from broken as shit, to awful, to very strong

[median scaffold]

Otherwise, Phaselaser exists and is a Draedon thingy

[golden sonnet]

Z tier

[median scaffold]

Or... I don't remember its name

The only Z tier in this entire mod

[indigo yacht]

lmao

[drowsy plank]

not that the current system is any good because it just means the weapons are designed around always having max charge so they just get worse over time for no reason

[frail fox]

“Very strong” it’s just broken again…

[hollow shell]

But that's the point

You have to put in a lot of effort to get these strong weapons, interact with Calamity's systems

[errant wren]

make the charged weapons pretty strong then they go into power saver mode below 15% charge

[drowsy plank]

the problem is they would also overshadow other calamity weapons too. like the obvious answer is charge should just be related to some sort of right click or other system entirely, and people would want to use them because they're interesting, but rn they just kind of

Are There

like it's just SHPC all over again

[hollow shell]

If a weapon you get as a direct drop from a boss you're required to kill outperforms these weapons you need to go out of your way to acquire and put time into,
what's the point?

[drowsy plank]

something something the balancing ouroborous

[errant wren]

i feel there are many better ways the charge mechanic could be implemented for these weapons

[drowsy plank]

that's my perspective mostly

[rugged belfry]

It doesn't really feel like Terraria

[drowsy plank]

that doesnt mean anything

what "feels like" terraria is such a vague standard that varies between people

i think the obvious answer is just that charge isn't interesting

[hollow shell]

... Terraria needs a real Rarity system.
Not just denoting what tier the item is on, but denoting how special an item is within its tier.
Something tied to hard numbers of rarity / effort required to get.
That way the testers can say "Okay this is a Rank 3 weapon, it must be 40% stronger than the Rank 1s at this tier" or something like that.

[median scaffold]

Calamity 1.3 is what I want Terraria to feel like, but it isn't there in the newer version
Doesn't mean I hate it

[hollow shell]

(aaand I scope crept it)

[errant wren]

this is like the second time we've had a conversation about charge i think

[drowsy plank]

yeah prolly cause nothing's changed lol

[deep crow]

This is also part of my issue with the draedon tech system, its just weapons. When it comes to technological advancements within sandbox games, the sky is the limit to what can be done with it, but the only thing this system does is add weapons that nobody uses, and summon one boss.

[hollow shell]

Indeed, very true

[errant wren]

true

[drowsy plank]

well next update it will summon THREE bosses

💥

[hollow shell]

If there were unique utilities only gained from the labs then players would be incentivized to do it and we wouldn't need to worry about the balance ouroboros

[hollow shell]

That will help.

[errant wren]

did the machine explode again

[drowsy plank]

not disagreeing on that at all

just saying it's funny that the problems clearly run deeper

very much a bandage on an amputation

[hollow shell]

Add lab upgrades to the Wulfrum utilities ‼️

[drowsy plank]

honestly some of them could use it

like the turtles or smthn

[errant wren]

wulfrum will become endgame viable

[indigo yacht]

wulfrum digging turtles but cool

[errant wren]

draedon digging turtles

[indigo yacht]

I've literally only used these once and it was to cheat and tunnel into the dungeon before killing the guardian

[rugged belfry]

A lot of the mechanics offered by Wulfrum are extremely unique, so it does sadden me that they're so briefly viable.

[hollow shell]

... anyway for now yeah the suggestion is ❗ .
It should be reworded to address the problem more.. comprehensively?
And potentially moved to #1178515062030348308 if you/we decide the lab weapons being universally buffed would be a good solution (or at least a good part of a larger solution)

[indigo yacht]

question: are any of the arsenal weapons even good? i know that pulse pistol and tracking disk are, and like maybe two other rogue weapons but is there anything else that's worth mentioning or is it all just mediocre/bad

[hollow shell]

I gtg do stuff now I shouldn't have been messaging here to begin with

[boreal lichen]

Pulse Rifle is pretty nice

Very good for enemies and it's still viable for bosses

[rugged belfry]

I've personally never pursued Draedon Tech weapons because it always felt too complicated/uninteresting to be worth my time. I agree that buffing them would be an adequate solution.

[boreal lichen]

Well they're all already planned to be reworked eventually

With the first tier of weapons being reworked next update not mentioned in the changelogs yet

[rugged belfry]

To add on Cog's previous point, I've always enjoyed when weapons have an alternative ability when right clicked. It enriches gameplay and adds a little more strategy to fights (that I otherwise spend spam-clicking). Perhaps something along those lines, with a kind of charge integration, would be sufficient.

[indigo yacht]

i find that weapons with a right click ability tend to only use either left or right click, but i think that's more of a balance issue

[golden sonnet]

I know discussion in the past have been denied about something that charges things from your inventory, but it could be cool if charge depleted way faster/had a much lower max, and the right click used cells from your inventory to charge it in real time

it would allow all the arsenal weapons to have a uniform right click to charge, (thus not requiring a new attack for every single one) and allow a fun (imo) heavy attack in bursts then charge rotation

[rugged belfry]

It's valuable that the abilities are different enough to justify using them separately. However, I see your point. I think about something like Golden Shower as a right click, where it isn't so much a variety in attack but a support tool.

[indigo yacht]

I'm still not a fan of charging, but i think that would at least make them easier and feel better to use in general

[indigo yacht]

fair

[errant wren]

i still think power saver mode below 15% would be really funny

[indigo yacht]

if it would let you use draedon weapons outside of boss fights without having to worry about charging (you'd be punished with lower damage or firerate or whatever but you'd still be able to attack) I'd be down

[rugged belfry]

I dislike the thought of losing a fight because my weapon isn't fully charged.

Then again, preparation is extremely emphasized in Terraria. Ranger ammo and Mage potions already rely so heavily on your memory.

[violet zephyr]

Battery Low. Battery Usage Lowered. Power Output Lowered. Flashlight Disabled.

Let us say, by all means hypothetically, that I wished to suggest that items using Charge had their damage greatly increased, but their Charge usage also heavily increased, would it better fit here, or in #1178515062030348308?

[median scaffold]

I think that's more so a balance change than anything, but is it just a number change or you want to alter the mechanic in one way or another even further?

[violet zephyr]

Its not altering the mechanic, but it would change how the weapons would be used, going from just standard weapons to burst weapons that you'd use once in a fight due to Charge being depleted at a much faster rate.

[median scaffold]

...hm, I didn't think about the gameplay changes. It might be better to send it as a suggestion first and, if someone says otherwise, reusing it for the balance report

[north oracle]

this has been brought up before
all it does is make people grind 5 of the weapon to get an insane killtime

[crude geode]

Reminds me of the old RE weapons in a way

and how they were never used by players

Anyways I’m pretty sure the devs are aware the Draedon weapons are pretty nothingburger rn

[violet zephyr]

I'd rather an abusable mechanic, than a mechanic that bares no weight.

[gaunt needle]

if the player makes 5 copies of the same weapon i would let it be tbh

it's not like the "spend stupid amount of time preparing, do stupid amount of damage" design doesn't exist in the game already (with coin gun and progression breaking)

[lucid marsh]

The devs are aware of the problem and won't do anything to fix it for years because they'd rather wait to implement a """""perfect""""" solution once they have one instead of improving things with an imperfect solution now

[lucid marsh]

Also. No. This is bad, and shouldn't be encouraged

[drowsy plank]

it's not exactly like updates are fast

we dont even know what the game really looks like rn with all that's being done in SSO

i dont think cal really works with that kind of mindset so im not sure why you expect that

[novel belfry]

i dunno man charge really fucking sucks, i would rather have some solution to it for now rather than just have that lying about

[lucid marsh]

I agree, but it unfortunately does not matter what we think. I should not even bring it up, since it's been talked about so much already.

[echo leaf]

Lab turrets are AWESOME and I love them

Makes getting resources en masse much easier

[grizzled dome]

...honestly a draedon tool would be neat. Possibly annoying to use depending on its battery life, but it could definitely be neat. It also means it isn't directly competing with other weapons which don't require charge.

[lucid marsh]

I agree it would be interesting

What if the onyx drill had to be charged?

That would probably balance it somewhat

[fleet grotto]

it is already getting reworked though

[wet vigil]

What if the onyx drill drilled down

[golden sonnet]

it can, just use a pickaxe

[distant gyro]

dcu:

[frail fox]

Vanilla isn’t real unfortunately

[arctic barn]

can i delete a suggestion that has been planned?

i found a mod that makes alcohol items placable already

so idk if this is needed

[prisma sedge]

Considering it's already on their to-do list, I'm not sure if that'd be necessary

[distant gyro]

you can get the author of the mod to officially submit the assets on calart to have it in the mod proper if you wish

[drowsy plank]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3174001921

[arctic barn]

ill just see

[vestal crater]

This seems sick

[median scaffold]

WitherTaco mentioned

[tardy geyser]

Bots broken?

[drowsy plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/1308300486943965205/suggestion_bot_down.gif

@inland saddle

[hollow shell]

👀
ammo.. reloading...

Could be cool ideed. Reminds me of my favorite Dead Cells weapon, the Heavy Crossbow.
Though that allowed you to still use the weapon without loading it, it'd just be weaker. When you have a free moments in between attacking enemies you alt-fire to ready up a stronger shot.

And during constant action you'd get into a good rhythm of Load, BAM, Load, BAM, Load, BAM

[fleet grotto]

Woah the bots are taking longer than normal

[glass arch]

yeah bots down

[golden sonnet]

My bad, I was hungry

[median scaffold]

Raesh, you should explode from this amount of bot eating

[potent raft]

would a suggestion to make necromancer beams have longer travel time so they can be dodged be a good idea? they are like the only enemy that is actualy just completely undodgeable, even if they miss with their primary trajectory, the bounces are instant

[median scaffold]

That's changed in the next update, iirc

[potent raft]

thank god

[median scaffold]

It is no longer a hitscan attack

[median scaffold]

Yeah
#changelogs message

[potent raft]

it would be funny if the player version was changed too, so its like a waterbolt upgrade instead of a instant peircing laser, with a damage boost to balance it, of course.

since if i recall correctly the actual water bolt "upgrade" just goes through blocks

[fleet grotto]

I meant the scam spam thingies took like 5 seconds to be removed

Usually it's like instantly

[glass arch]

yeah those are different bots

oh wait yeah

uhhh actually its generally not that short its usually around 3-5 seconds iirc

[echo leaf]

necromancers are so funny

they just appear and kill you

[fleet grotto]

and then they resurrect you

funny how dark mages from ooa are more necromancer than the enemy named necromancer

[echo leaf]

#suggestions-voting message

Pipes

[golden sonnet]

@cerulean stirrup as Prikki mentioned above, an identical suggestion has already passed, and with almost all tile suggestions is primarily waiting on sprites.

[cerulean stirrup]

ngl i should prob just use ctrl f and look there before posting stuff

[echo leaf]

Nah, no worries! It was a long time ago

[indigo yacht]

can i like... redo this one? it was 3 months ago
#suggestions-voting message

i just spent like 5 hours trying to get the god damn granite shrine it was horrible

[glass arch]

its been rejected before so i would say its probably not a great idea

[indigo yacht]

where was the rejected one?

[crude geode]

this is the one I found, and that was back in 2022

so you should be fine

[indigo yacht]

alright

Implement a method to find shrines besides getting lucky

In their current state, the various biome shrines are questions of dedication. They spawn randomly within a specific biome, with only the forest one really being able to be found consistently, with the others being either difficult to find or downright atrocious. The Draedon bio center labs are an apt comparison, as they too spawn randomly within often very large areas, but despite being larger than the shrines (and so easier to find) they have a sure-fire way to locate them in the form of Lab Seeking Mechanisms.

For this unfair discrepancy, a similar mechanic should be implemented to find the shrines. Perhaps there could be an npc that functions similar to a fairy that spawns when you get close to them, or something closer to the seeking mechanisms like a compass to indicate direction only. Regardless of implementation, an item to find shrines would make them and the special items they hold much more accessible in the earlygame, which is when they're intended to be used.

I'm very tired so i assume the quality of writing here is rather low, please critique before i put it in #suggestions-posting

[rugged belfry]

I enjoy the Surface shrine because it's hidden enough but still fairly easy to find.

[hollow shell]

Looks fine to me

I dunno if it's worth mentioning or not but
All of the labs have light sources, but two(?) of the shrines, Granite and Crimson, do not have light sources
Meaning, especially in early game, you could have them on your screen and pass by them without ever knowing, cuz they were simply in the dark

(Snow shrine has a light source but it's dim)

At least I'm pretty sure Granite doesn't have a light source
I've uhh, never encountered it in-game

[golden sonnet]

the inclusion of light sources in the shrine redesigns was a fairly intentional thing to make them easier to find without making it too easy. A suggestion to add light sources to the ones missing them sounds like a great idea to me

[hollow shell]

I frankly would not be opposed to a shrine locator/pointer item, myself

It kinda sucks when something can be anywhere in the world

Marble and Granite are particularly egregious in that regard

Mushroom too actually

[rugged belfry]

I wonder how possible it is to make them generate specifically closer to large caves/cave openings. This would still reward the player for exploring, without requiring them to excavate an entire biome.

[glass arch]

it has light sources in the shrine but said light sources are also very dim and blue

[golden sonnet]

Even just some sort of pattern would help a ton, like marble is always on dungeon side and granite is always opposite to marble

[hollow shell]

Indeed

[rugged belfry]

Knowing as little as just where to start would be extremely helpful yeah

[golden sonnet]

I'm personally opposed to making a tracker or something that garentees them, but making ways to make them easier to hunt for I am largely in favor of

[rugged belfry]

Agreed

[hollow shell]

I was about to bring up The Sea Has No Claim by Lucas Pope for ideas on how to point in the direction of something without outright telling you were it is, which is the whole premise of the game

But I did that the last time we had this exact discussion
#suggestions-discussion message

[glass arch]

id say you could add something to npc dialogue but. npc dialogue

[hollow shell]

Hell, what about notes in the chests of matching biomes that say shit like
"Something special is deep Underground, to the east."

[golden sonnet]

as an example, even if unintended the discovery that roxcalibur spawns WAY more likely on the left side of the world, and more likely to be higher than lower makes finding it literally take like 1/4th of the time it used to. On the one hand I love tricks like this and think they could help a ton without making shrines free, it is also something that isn't exactly communicated to the player and enforces wiki reliance or "knowledge gating" an experience

[hollow shell]

Yes exactly

That Rox quirk gives you some direction for how/where to look for it

[glass arch]

well thatll be much less of an issue with rox getting a shrine

but yeah

[indigo yacht]

i hope i fixed the weird grammar choices

but it's also even later at night, so idk

[hollow shell]

Guaranteeing fairy spawns near shrines isn't a bad idea

I think actual natural fairies can lead you to shrines, because they can go to any chest

but of course that'd require even more luck than stumbling upon the shrine yourself, I think.

[indigo yacht]

i was thinking about the seeking mechanisms which are, well, mechanical, and something like that seems like it would be rather out of place for a self-proclaimed "shrine"

so fairies, or something similar to sort of show you over to it in a more natural way seemed better in my mind

[hollow shell]

makes sense

[drowsy plank]

was shrine locators denied pre-22?

[indigo yacht]

uhh this

i think

[wet vigil]

I just found the desert shrine in my third playthrough expert death summoner

Pre boss

I got so lucky

[leaden ibex]

Reminds me of how JFL mined straight past roxcalibur and later thought it's not in the world...

[vestal crater]

Its the easiest to find

Usually in the middle and lower parts of the desert

It’s easy to mine there

And there’s a lot of open space

[wet vigil]

That’s true

[indigo yacht]

iirc rox is getting a shrine and a specific location for the shrine so this won't be a problem (?)

[indigo yacht]

I'm currently doing a challenge where i need luxors gift and unstable granite core, and luxors took 2 hours, like 20 deaths, and about half the desert biome to find

that was still only like a third of what the core took, and i fucking cheated at the end because i was at like 5-6 hours and nearly a 3rd of my entire world explored

[wet vigil]

Well damn

That’s horrible

[indigo yacht]

that's why i want something so that theres a way you can at least find the general area so that you only have to spend like, ten minutes or something mining around for it

i also found the mushroom and ice shrines while looking for granite biomes which was kinda funny

mushroom is a free 50+ gold bc truffle worms sell for a lot

[fleet grotto]

perhaps make multiple spawn in a world so it's more likely for the player to find them

[inland saddle]

Frick I completely forgot to restart the bot

I’ll have it back in a few hours I’m at work right now

[golden sonnet]

We know it has a shrine but no public info on where that shrine is iirc

[indigo yacht]

ah i see

[hollow shell]

Interesting suggestion??

@rare elm The bit about giving you buffs while mining the ores isn't really related to your main suggestion

[errant wren]

yeah

[hollow shell]

You're asking for audiovisual effects, right?

[errant wren]

i literally was just about to type that

uhh

it is a fair suggestion other than it getting off topic instantly

[hollow shell]

Auric Ore does have custom mining sounds already, and its unique electric effect which includes a visual n sound
So it might be worth bringing that up as a point of support/comparison

[errant wren]

it would be kinda neat

like uelibloom sounding like fossilized wood

or something

i'm only now realizing how empty endgame is ore-wise

[hollow shell]

something something Distortion dimension

[indigo yacht]

to be fair, vanilla has the same thing

[errant wren]

can't wait for bloodstone ore 🙏

[errant wren]

yeah but with vanilla there isn't that big a gap

[indigo yacht]

you go into hardmode, get three new ores, and then nothing else for the rest of the game

[hollow shell]

(four. Chloro.)

[indigo yacht]

oh, right

forgot chlorophyte existed lol

[hollow shell]

But yeah after Plantera there is no new mining content.

[median scaffold]

Technically 7, + Hallowed Bars

[indigo yacht]

they should add the drax back to shadow chests

hallowed bars don't have an ore in vanilla

[median scaffold]

I know

[hollow shell]

In vanilla you don't get the altar ores you didn't receive, so it's only 3

[median scaffold]

That's why those are separate

[median scaffold]

Chlorophyte Extractinator

And shimmer, ig

[hollow shell]

That's not mining

[indigo yacht]

i would consider hallowed bars to be more of a material than anything, similar to ectoplasm

[hollow shell]

Anyway whatever

[median scaffold]

Explodes

[errant wren]

cal adds like

[hollow shell]

Exclamming the suggestion until this is fixed

[errant wren]

3 hardmode ores i think

[indigo yacht]

I'm not saying this is a particularly good thing also i think more mining in endgame could be really fun

if you did it right

[errant wren]

exclamming

[drowsy plank]

very weird sugg because the idea is fine at a surface level but then it randomly says to make ores give buffs which is just????????

[stuck moss]

seems kinda insignificant considering how little mining there is in endgame

kinda just makes this part of the game even shorter than it is already

[errant wren]

to be fair, the buffs were the irrelevant part

[rare elm]

mb, forgot that

[rare elm]

yeah sir

[rare elm]

talking about the extractinator, hasn't someone suggested about a direct upgrade of it?

maybe I could suggest something similar

[median scaffold]

1. SIS (I think)
2. What's the point of it?

[fleet grotto]

there is an upgrade to the extractinator

it's just very niche not many people use it

[median scaffold]

I think they're talking about an upgrade to Chlorophyte Extractinator specifically, since it was mentioned in my message

[fleet grotto]

oh maybe

[indigo yacht]

2. extractinate faster i assume

if so though honestly just make a suggestion about that

[rare elm]

is that post polthergast? I just beat providence for the first time today

[median scaffold]

It is called Chlorophyte Extractinator and it is from Vanilla...

[rare elm]

oooh yeah, that one

[sleek turret]

LMA

[fleet grotto]

it is crafted with Chlorophyte and an Extractinator

[rare elm]

a new idea could be if that extractinator in calamity makes alloys of pre hardmode gems and use them to expand mage and summoner weapons, armor or accessory stuff

[median scaffold]

Uhh, yeah, that's totally SIS

[grave zinc]

@tropic yoke - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Brimstone Crag Ambient Objects Placeable]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@indigo yacht - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Improve the MOAB]

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[indigo yacht]

epic

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Sulphurskin Potion Use A Sulphurous Sea Fish]

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[median scaffold]

I'll explode anyone who gets approved

[grave zinc]

@clever canopy - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Increase the spawn rate of ??? after defeating the Aquatic Scourge]

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[tropic yoke]

Ahhh

[inland saddle]

Manually passed those

[grave zinc]

@safe pine - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add more post-Moonlord hover wings]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
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[inland saddle]

They were close enough to the requirement and the window wasn't perfect so better to have just a few more go through than a few less

[tropic yoke]

Certified bulk bot post moment

[indigo yacht]

some of these i am a big fan of

[frail fox]

Pretty decent batch compared to the usual I think

[tropic yoke]

I remember when I used to suggest whole items

[indigo yacht]

Add my cat to calamity

hes really cute and i love him and i think it would be awesome

[tropic yoke]

I’d accept it

[fleet grotto]

Add my dogs to calamity

I love my dogs and the fact that there's only two unique dog pet equipment makes me sad :(

[indigo yacht]

i would vote

[tropic yoke]

Hey I don’t see living fire blocks dropping their items in the changelogs

0/10 mod

[hollow shell]

@indigo yacht Your suggestion in posting appears to be too long, gotta cut it down

[indigo yacht]

oh shoot sorry

didn't notice

[hollow shell]

(Didn't have the reaction until the bot came back online)

[indigo yacht]

ahhhhh

[hollow shell]

Asking for temporary buffs at all seems really... strange, for mining ores.
Buffs are never used for flavor like that anywhere else in the game, and it'd probably just confuse players or make them wonder what the point is.

I think it'd be better for you to focus on the visual and audio effects, rather than something almost practical like a buff.

Again, Auric Ore would be good to mention, as that has something similar already.

[indigo yacht]

is this still too long 😭

i need to get better at conciseness

[hollow shell]

Nope looks like it's good

[indigo yacht]

writing so many essays has conditioned me for unnatural elongation of- oh nice

[hollow shell]

I feel that

[indigo yacht]

broken heart emoji

[tropic yoke]

I actually like ore giving debuffs

Like how tesla works, you actually have to pay attention when mining

[hollow shell]

Or Hellstone. Not just the debuff there but also the lava it spawns.

You have to either be careful and aware, or come prepared with the right equipment or potions

[rare elm]

yeah that sounds logical, ty

[errant wren]

mining uelibloom angers the trees or something

[tardy geyser]

The Lorax comes to take your kidneys

[boreal lichen]

Uelibloom having an ability wouldn't really make sense, but perhaps profaned ore will have something

[indigo yacht]

uelibloom should be mined with an axe

for no good reason

[tardy geyser]

Oh the trees in the perennial biome drop the ore

[indigo yacht]

oh

i didn't

hm

[boreal lichen]

There's a perennial biome?

[tropic yoke]

Soon™️

[olive saddle]

Soon™️

[boreal lichen]

Trademark

Also that won't even have an ore, since that's getting replaced

[tropic yoke]

Oh right perennial is now going to look like false son according to Cosmore

[boreal lichen]

That's just gonna be an inspiration for the Reaver tank

[tropic yoke]

Axe mining would be fun i think

[tropic yoke]

Oh my goood I used to HATE hellstone mining

Now there’s enough tools to get like >1k with one obsid pot

Maybe it’s just me having a more developed brain and I know how to use a keyboard like a not ape idk

[grizzled dome]

I have a suggestion idea, but I don't remember if it got made before, or if it's already in-progress, or if it's really unnecessarily confusing for dumb tModLoader reasons.

Give Vanilla NPCs "opinions" about Calamity NPCs/Biomes

Calamity adds 5 new NPCs, all of which have preferences for neighbors from among the other NPCs (both modded and vanilla). However, all of the vanilla NPCs lack happiness preferences for the modded NPCs they have as neighbors, as well as for the new biomes. Adding those preferences would make the modded content feel better integrated into the game and lead to more interesting housing decisions, as well as serving as a way to deliver lore.

Thoughts?

[indigo yacht]

i do believe this is getting addressed sometime soon but i don't know for certain

[grizzled dome]

...I feel like the Gunsmith should have some kind of thoughts about Azafure, seeing as it is (iirc) where firearms were invented, but I don't know what those thoughts would be or how he'd express them.

[drowsy plank]

the problem is mostly tmod support last i heard

[grizzled dome]

yeah, I don't know how hard it would be to edit existing NPCs since I have no modding experience.

...I also had to double-check but there is zero lore related to the pirates and my weird lore brain wants there to be some but it feels like "write pirate lore" is wrong to suggest and probably going to already happen at some point.

[drowsy plank]

it's more just the npc happiness system and modded biomes having low compat rn

i think

[grim tusk]

the fault lies with Tmod

so much stuff we want to do but we cant

[wet vigil]

I’ll do it for you

Is that okay?

[grizzled dome]

Yes it is.

[wet vigil]

Ok

I will

[wet vigil]

How do the white text?

[grizzled dome]

it's bold (double astrixes) unless you're talking about something else?

[wet vigil]

Ok

Thanks

[prisma briar]

pirate lore:

they steal

awesome suggestion

[frozen hornet]

Pirate lore:
midas prime

[olive saddle]

#suggestions-posting message

should probably have more reasoning other than "its cool"

[grizzled dome]

I'd suggest "to make them feel better integrated into the lore" and/or "for parity with other vanilla events and minibosses, many of which have recieved Calamity-compliant lore".

[wet vigil]

I fixed it

[fleet grotto]

I'm struggling with a way to word a suggestion

actually hold on let me check if something like this is in voting or changelogs already

don't think so

[indigo yacht]

worst case scenario you missed something and wasted like an entire 5 minutes writing and posting a suggestion

[fleet grotto]

"Change EoC's horizontal dash attack in Rev+ to start on the side it is to the player rather than strictly the left" feels too wordy but idk how else to say it

am i imagining things or does it actually only start using that dash starting from the left

whichever side it is to the player it just slides to the left (which leads to awkward boss movement)

[indigo yacht]

fuck that shit

but I don't think that's a suggestion

i think that's closer to balance if anything, but I don't think they do boss suggestions there either

[fleet grotto]

suggestion to change boss ai idk

[indigo yacht]

also yeah it does that then alternates sides

[fleet grotto]

completely fine with the alternating sides thing just think it's dumb that it ONLY starts from the left

[indigo yacht]

at least in masdeath but I don't see why that of all things would differ

[fleet grotto]

acts like it to me in exdeath so probably all difficulties rev+

i think im gonna make it

[fleet grotto]

@wet vigil i think you should retype that ending

im gonna be so real

[indigo yacht]

ok maybe im going insane but i just fought eoc and i'm pretty sure it did two charges from the same side in a row

hmm

[violet zephyr]

If you mean NPC dialogue, this is already planned. If you mean NPC Happiness, as already mentioned, then TMod doesn't support that, currently.

[wet vigil]

I did not see the typo

[fleet grotto]

yeah just letting you know 👍

[wet vigil]

Thanks

Would have been bad to send that with a typo

[vestal crater]

It’s only masdeath

Iirc

Masodeath has a similar thing which alternates

[fleet grotto]

i know it doesn't only start on the left on master death

bro literally SLIIDES across the screen

[indigo yacht]

how do i title this in a way that makes sense

[median scaffold]

"Change the order of armor set bonus' jumps"

[golden sonnet]

"Reorder armor jumps" if you want something concise

Or "Fix double jump order" for community engagement

[median scaffold]

Community engagement is the better path, of course

[indigo yacht]

are there any other double jumps I'm not thinking of besides armor set bonuses

[median scaffold]

...I don't think there are more of them, besides Vanilla's and armor sets

[indigo yacht]

thumbs up reaction

[fleet grotto]

wtf double jump does amber balloon have again

does it even have one

better question has anybody ever even used amber balloon

[indigo yacht]

uh

I don't think it has a jump

[errant wren]

it doesn't exist

[indigo yacht]

yeah it doesn't

[errant wren]

obviously

[indigo yacht]

just bees and balloon

[fleet grotto]

unironically may be the most forgettable accessory

[errant wren]

what? i'm saying amber balloon isn't real

anyways

[median scaffold]

Bee Balloon, you mean?

[fleet grotto]

it is called amber im pretty sure

[indigo yacht]

nah that goes to hand warmer i think

[errant wren]

amber balloon could bee improved all things considered

i'll see myself out

[fleet grotto]

Moab upgrade now uses literally every single fucking balloon

[indigo yacht]

you're going into The Hive

[fleet grotto]

One jump sends you to the stratusphere

[indigo yacht]

ok unironically that would be like good

like, a quintuple jump moab upgrade would be genuinely useful

idk how useful but it would be good

[fleet grotto]

Why not just moab, just updated/buffed to be

[indigo yacht]

yeah that's

i would prefer if they removed the wings entirely and just added extra jumps

[median scaffold]

MOAB's biggest flaw is it trying to be a jetpack, but better

[indigo yacht]

tsunami and sigh fart alongside the other 3 would be peak

[fleet grotto]

also get the honeycomb effect (just because)

[median scaffold]

Fart is unironically good

[indigo yacht]

explodes you with mind

[indigo yacht]

I've heard, it's just...

[median scaffold]

Fart.

[indigo yacht]

fart

yeah

[median scaffold]

I know, but we can't do anything about it

[fleet grotto]

i think fart is second to sandstorm

[indigo yacht]

according to wiki it's below blizzard

[gaunt crystal]

damn server invite bots

[fleet grotto]

aw

much harder to get accessory is worse

what's new

[indigo yacht]

it's above tsunami at least and tsunami is good

cloud is the only bad double jump and it's only bad on its own

[fleet grotto]

it's still better than nothing

i feel it's less of a combat mobility tool and an exploration mobility tool, whereas the other bottles are more of combat mobility

[indigo yacht]

I can't effectively fight bosses with cloud so ye

i need something better

although if the world was expert it would probably work

[median scaffold]

"Below" doesn't mean "worse"

[fleet grotto]

in this case yes it does

[median scaffold]

Fart is much more horizontal, unlike sandstorm, which is more so diagonal

[fleet grotto]

if it's worse horizontally and gertixa

oh okay

[indigo yacht]

shuki please i beg of you dont annihilate my armor set argument about vanilla jump tiering

💔

[median scaffold]

I won't

[indigo yacht]

thank you hon

[fleet grotto]

you now use all double jumps in completely random order

[median scaffold]

Because Sulphurous is arguably worse than Sandstorm

[indigo yacht]

[fleet grotto]

there is no rhyme or reason

[median scaffold]

Fuck you, monkey paw

[indigo yacht]

it is worse, by a rather significant amount

[fleet grotto]

🙉

[indigo yacht]

also blizzard

[fleet grotto]

bbbbut..... my bubel!!!

[indigo yacht]

idk about the other 3, i haven't compared them

stupid bubble

im popping you

[fleet grotto]

sulphurous is like tsunami iirc

[indigo yacht]

i believe it's intended to be nearly identical

it isn't bad, it's just not better than sandstorm which is why i hate that it's above sandstorm

it's so much slower

[fleet grotto]

simple just spam space

[indigo yacht]

i wonder if people will think I'm weird if i tell them i use w to jump

[fleet grotto]

Yes

[indigo yacht]

💔

[fleet grotto]

I use shift to hook though I'm not innocent

[indigo yacht]

it feels more natural since s accelerates you downward

[indigo yacht]

lmao

[golden sonnet]

silence featherfall user.

[fleet grotto]

that's not just a part of feather fall

[golden sonnet]

I know

[fleet grotto]

I thought so

[indigo yacht]

when i teach you the meaning of defenestration you'll wish you were one too

[golden sonnet]

Nah, I'd hook

[fleet grotto]

my OBSIDIAN HORSESHOE-

[indigo yacht]

nvm this is more forgettable than hand warmers

last time i even saw this accessories was when i was 11

[fleet grotto]

lmao

i only ever see this accessory when i use magic storage

[median scaffold]

"Make forgettable accessories more useful"

[errant wren]

i can't wait for molten horseshoe balloon (it's just amber horseshoe balloon with obsidian skull and inferno effect instead of bees)

[coral carbon]

I will riot if the MOAB upgrade isn't BFB

[median scaffold]

Wtf, it is actually called the Amber Balloon.....

[fleet grotto]

all the balloon upgrades have color names

[median scaffold]

That's sure a fact

[vestal crater]

do we know if planty mush walls will be added or if its like an eutropic glass situation

[wet vigil]

What if Crabulon dropped a placable buff station called the Crab Bar which is a bar with a crab bartender. It would give you alcohol buffs

[drowsy plank]

@ crabbar

lol

[indigo yacht]

prehardmode alcohol meta

that would be kind of cool though, iirc we only have tipsy for phm, another alcohol type or two could be interesting maybe

[wet vigil]

Yes

[stark locust]

**Allow Photoviscerators homing exo flares(Right Click) to go through blocks when attached to enemies **
I was using the Photoviscerator on SCal and noticed that the right click ability was having a lot of trouble dealing damage to her during her mobile and brother phases, because the exo flares were unable to follow their targets through blocks, which is strange because the weapon is directly intended to be used on this boss and shouldn't be having issues hitting her when the player is using the weapon as intended, So instead of buffing the right click, although i do believe that it could use a buff, its not completely needed. What i suggest to do is to allow the homing exo fares fired from the right click to be able to pass through blocks when attached to enemies because at the moment when they are attached to something and it passes through blocks they just fall of their target and are unable to deal damage making the player miss out on valuable damage. alternatively making them work how they used to where they went through blocks all of the time could work, since im pretty sure there are plans to move away from the current tiles boarder and replace it for a projectile one, i dont really see much point of the bounce ability of the flares

feedback?

[wet vigil]

This makes some sense

[errant wren]

i would cut down or remove the bit about "originally making a buff request"

[stark locust]

to like something something i was fighting scal with photo and realized this?

[errant wren]

uhhh that might work

something something "i saw that the right-click ability hardly worked for the boss you would use the weapon for"

[wet vigil]

What if Crabulon dropped a placable buff station called the Crab Bar which is a bar with a crab bartender. It would give you alcohol buffs. The flavor text would be something like “I’m afraid you misheard me” or maybe it would be “CrabBar at home:”

[stark locust]

alr thx

[wet vigil]

Of course this would require CrabBar’s permission

[stark locust]

updated the first part

ok i added a bit at the end for an alternative

[idle dagger]

I want this so bad
I’d honestly make a suggestion about it but I think I heard they wouldn’t bother adding it

[fleet grotto]

errrmmm SIS!

[stark locust]

mother of the mother of all balloons

[fleet grotto]

momoab

[indigo yacht]

@verbal jasper changelog 114 and 237
...also i feel like boss rebalances aren't supposed to go in this channel? but i don't remember where they would go if that's even the case

[verbal jasper]

I see

[crude geode]

#1178515062030348308

[frail fox]

Is that for bosses? I’m pretty sure it’s just for items

[errant wren]

balancing bosses is fair i think

not that i would actually know

[crude geode]

Bosses themselves are already discouraged for suggestions since the average player isn’t going to have the best opinion on balance

[verbal jasper]

Imo I feel like bosses should be a mix of challenging but fair

[indigo yacht]

ok so basically this is where you would put boss balance suggestions, but generally you probably shouldn't?

[crude geode]

You can still bring it up here if you think it is bullshit, but making an official suggestion is very difficult

[indigo yacht]

i see

[crude geode]

There’s an entire rule in the document about boss suggestions

[indigo yacht]

i... don't know how i missed that, I've read the document like 4 times

time to make a suggestion to buff masrev eoc phase 3 🙏

[stark locust]

is this good, please rep ping

[indigo yacht]

i would remove the anecdotal evidence and try to sound more objective; for example, instead of "I was using the Photoviscerator for SCal and noticed that the right... using the weapon as intended", say something along the lines of "The Photoviscerator is an exo weapon intended to be used against Supreme Calamitas, which is a fight contained entirely within an box constructed by the boss; yet despite this fact, and the fact that exo flares can target through blocks, they cannot pass through blocks" or something

and also rephrase the part about buffing the weapon to intrude upon the point less, if that makes sense

[stark locust]

can i just steal the second part of this?

[indigo yacht]

oh yeah sure

[stark locust]

ofc make it fit

thx

[indigo yacht]

the content itself doesn't need changing i think, but i think there could be some extra persuasion injected into it

[stark locust]

**Allow Photoviscerators homing exo flares(Right Click) to go through blocks when attached to enemies **

The Photoviscerator is an exo weapon intended to be used against Supreme Calamitas, which is a fight contained entirely within a box constructed by the boss; yet despite this fact, and the fact that the exo flares can target through blocks, they cannot pass through blocks, my solution to this issue is to allow the homing exo fares fired from the right click to be able to pass through blocks when attached to enemies, because currently when they are attached to an enemy and it passes through blocks they just fall off of their target and are unable to deal damage whilst still being locked onto the un reachable target making the player miss out on valuable damage. alternatively making them work how they used to where they went through blocks all of the time could work, and since im pretty sure that there are plans to move away from the current tiles boarder and replace it for a projectile one, i dont really see much point for them not being able to pass through blocks.

ok i updated it

imo the best thing could to make them go thought blocks all of the time but i doubt the devs would do that

[indigo yacht]

i just realized i typed "an box" instead of "a box"

incredible. fantastic job elsi

[stark locust]

lol

fixed

[prisma briar]

another skull boss complaint crazy

[unborn stream]

okay something I'm thinking about suggesting, I could've sworn this was already a thing last time i played ranger but i guess I'm remembering incorrectly or something because i can't find anything in the changelogs about it:
some sort of audio feedback for when you get the point-blank damage bonus with a ranged weapon, like an impact sound that makes the shots feel more powerful
thoughts?

[distant gyro]

sounds familiar

[median scaffold]

@robust parcel
I do like the idea, but your suggestion lacks... pretty much everything besides the said idea

[olive saddle]

^

[gilded citrus]

Would it be allowed to make a suggestion about renaming the spoiler chat to like future update chat or something more clear cause people keep on thinking its for endgame calamity talk

[distant gyro]

uhm

server suggestion

[gilded citrus]

-# i had remembered ti check the rules thing right after plsting that, oops

[median scaffold]

@sonic torrent

[dense ravine]

you would NOT believe what the mods are talking about

[median scaffold]

[dense ravine]

also no were not

[median scaffold]

Why?

[dense ravine]

1. it happens not too often
2. spoiler talk is also for where content that recently released is for, not just upcoming stuff

you can just tell people "wrong channel lol"

[gilded citrus]

Fair

[dense ravine]

same thing when someone talks about infernum in cmt

[olive saddle]

i dont even know if this is possible

this may be a tmod thing

[median scaffold]

So, do you want to give the players an ability to hold down Rage / Adrenaline key to use them while they're not full?

[violet zephyr]

To use them as soon as they're full.

Essentially buffering their use.

[median scaffold]

Ohhh

Yeah, that makes sense

[olive saddle]

Yes. What they said

Just hold the key and as soon as its ready it immediately fires

[dense ravine]

slamfire the rippers

[olive saddle]

Adjusted phrasing so this isn't a possibility

[median scaffold]

My main problem comes with the title, but after getting what it means, it makes sense, lol

[olive saddle]

I didn't know how else to phrase it

I absolutely dont want to use adrenaline before its ready. I like game balance

[tropic yoke]

Hmm mana flower but for adrenaline

I like it

Hearing the adrenaline sound go up in tone then IMMEDIATELY hearing the loss of 100% adrenaline is the bane of my existence

[wet vigil]

Yes

True

[indigo yacht]

just bind it to m1 and spam click

when in doubt bind the key to mouse 1

get out of here spam bot

[median scaffold]

Spam bots should DIE

They should EXPLODE

I'm feeling a little bit KILL

[indigo yacht]

hooray!

i should just only make suggestions about double jump items from now on

[weary spoke]

ultrakill

[fleet grotto]

@verbal cedar you need a reason

[verbal cedar]

fixed it I think

[median scaffold]

I can get your reasoning, but it is worded slightly poorly. I would do something like this:

Dune Splicer is considered to be the Hardmode variant of the Tomb Crawler, so there's no reason for the former to not drop Burnt Sienna. Additionally, this would make obtaining the weapon for later stages of the game much easier.

[verbal cedar]

can i use that?

[median scaffold]

Yeah, sure

[drowsy plank]

didnt this already pass or am i insane

[median scaffold]

It was frequent, but let me check

[golden sonnet]

no because burnt sienna isn't in the recipes anymore

[violet zephyr]

_ _

[median scaffold]

It was, I think
#suggestions-voting message

[drowsy plank]

lo

[violet zephyr]

Therefore removing the need to get it in Hardmode...

[median scaffold]

Oops

[verbal cedar]

oh

[median scaffold]

I guess this is redundant?

[verbal cedar]

ya

[violet zephyr]

But yes, next update will make it so that you don't need Burnt Sienna.

[verbal cedar]

Ok

[drowsy plank]

@robust parcel this already passed; #suggestions-discussion message

[indigo yacht]

i like this idea actually, although i still think the point blank is stupid

[unborn stream]

I think it's an interesting mechanic and I can see both sides of the argument

rewarding getting up close and personal with the enemies does kinda go against the whole point of "ranged" damage in the first place, but I also think it allows for more varied play styles

[drowsy plank]

@unborn stream you're 16 characters over the 1k character limit

[unborn stream]

oh I didn't realize there's a limit my bad

[grim tusk]

Shotgun

[unborn stream]

oh you're right about that too, that sorta inherently rewards being closer (for single target damage anyway)

[indigo yacht]

point blank literally just exists and doesn't interact with anything else

[median scaffold]

It exists because ranger doesn't want to be a ranged class, who would thought

[robust parcel]

Oh hell yeah

[hollow verge]

based sugg tbh

[grave zinc]

@indigo yacht - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Improve the MOAB]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@tropic yoke - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Brimstone Crag Ambient Objects Placeable]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
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@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Sulphurskin Potion Use A Sulphurous Sea Fish]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
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[indigo yacht]

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

im actually really excited about this

[tropic yoke]

_ _

[indigo yacht]

the other two are also nice

[median scaffold]

Average Elsi W

💪

[tropic yoke]

Ok buddy

[grave zinc]

@safe pine - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add more post-Moonlord hover wings]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[boreal lichen]

Splendid

[indigo yacht]

epic

the harvest is bountiful this year

[safe pine]

sameeee better balloons is gonna be amazing haha

[indigo yacht]

still hoping for bundle with extra jumps but we'll see what happens

[idle dagger]

Moab buff let’s gooo

[safe pine]

same, defiled buff would be nice haha

[hollow shell]

((it exists because of Ultrakill))

But it's a good idea to add improved indication that it exists

Could be satisfying

[golden sonnet]

Going to break any ties in dev voting post 2022 real quick, so expect some old ones to come through

[hollow shell]

👍

[grave zinc]

@echo leaf - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Grant Demonshade armor a stealth value if the player holds a rogue weapon]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@torpid mural - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Supreme Calamitas's acceptance phase end after you talk to her.]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
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@glass arch - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rework Biofusillade]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
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@wide river - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Merge Corrupt Flask and Crimson Flask into a single item]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[indigo yacht]

rip
isn't demonshade getting reworked anyways

[grave zinc]

@muted cradle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Decrease the auric ore amount in the auric bar recipe]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
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[echo leaf]

BOOHOO

[indigo yacht]

lmao

[frail fox]

Auric will now be reverted to the old recipe

[indigo yacht]

20% yield increase

[glass arch]

what the fuck

i was not expecting to get a ping for THAT

[indigo yacht]

what does biofussilade even do

biofusillade

[golden sonnet]

We are looking into reworking the system so votes can't just sit in purgatory forever, but figured I'd nudge a few before that is done #suggestions-discussion message

[hollow shell]

shoots green boogers

[frail fox]

Noise machine

[indigo yacht]

incredible

[hollow shell]

The suggestion really does lay it out
Supremely old item

[frail fox]

Also a maker

[grave zinc]

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Buff Master Ninja Gear (and Its Upgrade Line)]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@fervent orbit - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rename Warbanner of the Sun]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
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@brittle moth - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a spawn item for Leviathan and Anahita]

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[frosty trellis]

O W O

[golden sonnet]

Alright, everything is updated now, no more suprises

[novel belfry]

WHAT

I THOUGHT THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN

I WAS ALWAYS CONFUSED AS TO WHY THEY NEVER BOTHERED TO DO THIS YEARS AGO

😱

[boreal lichen]

There was a request in the art server

Months ago iirc

[golden sonnet]

Change in opinions over time, it's already been public as it's been waiting for a submission in the art server

[novel belfry]

oh

right

[boreal lichen]

#541397237406892033 message

[novel belfry]

how the fuck did i forget about this

[indigo yacht]

praying this isnt just the magi change

[frail fox]

It’s more I think

[indigo yacht]

ok awesome

[golden sonnet]

#1072667620882522136 message

[indigo yacht]

i love magiluminescense but post plantera it's just not that great

[frail fox]

Yes I just checked that to make sure

[hollow shell]

Oh???

[hollow shell]

oh. right.
lol
I saw those

[gilded citrus]

WAR BANNER OF THE RIGHTEOUS !?

[boreal lichen]

Yes

[gilded citrus]

[boreal lichen]

Don't know why you sounded so surprised, the changelogs already came through, and I doubt Rebecca was gonna let it slide

[odd geyser]

noob sugg from ages in the past wtf

[gilded citrus]

1. Dementia gun
2. I am unnecessarily unsure of myself at times

[indigo yacht]

Implement a way to destroy Giant Plantera Bulbs in prehardmode

The Vernal Pass is a structure that spawns in the underground jungle and features a block called Vernal Soil, which features the unique property of growing Giant Plantera Bulbs.

The Vernal Pass is intended to be used as a convenient Plantera arena, however many players often also use it for a Queen Bee arena, but when doing this the Giant Bulbs get in the way of construction. The structure clearly had a lot of effort put into its design, so for it to only see use against two bosses (as people often also use it for Plaguebringer Goliath) when it could so very easily see use against three (across two whole segments of the game) would be a shame. For this, a way to destroy bulbs (without spawning Plantera; or with, wink wink) would be a worthwhile addition, as well as basic quality of life for those preparing the arena in hardmode (as you are forced to spawn in Plantera every time you want to remove a bulb).

fact checking/thoughts?

[errant wren]

i mean

i usually fight pbg in the vernal pass but i get what you mean

[indigo yacht]

i always forget she exists, right

can't use it for my argument bc post plantera but ill make note of it

[indigo yacht]

i suspect this is over the character limit but I can't be asked to trim it now, I'm tired

[novel belfry]

theres

theres a giant queen bee arena that isnt the vernal pass

[indigo yacht]

the bee hive?

[novel belfry]

the giant bee hive

that exists

[indigo yacht]

frankly, that arena sucks

[novel belfry]

but it is doable as a queen bee arena

[indigo yacht]

honey everywhere and you usually get a shitty pattern that means you have to remove a ton of hive blocks

[novel belfry]

sure, it could definitely get better generation

but you can still trim down on the mahogany tree blocks

[indigo yacht]

id rather be able to make one arena for both bosses instead of separate ones for each

it saves time and effort

i might reword my suggestion to focus on the plantera arena part too, though

[muted cradle]

Bru lmfao

I made this suggestion like a year ago LOL

[golden sonnet]

yeah, there were some suggestions that were never updated so we're working to push some over then stop them from being stuck in the future

[idle dagger]

Holy true

[indigo yacht]

going to be peak

[drowsy plank]

is that actually 1k characters

it looks so long lmao

[indigo yacht]

Im the greatest

does it count spaces

id like to know if i need to remove 209 or 1 character

[drowsy plank]

insane

it
probably counts spaces???

[indigo yacht]

darn, well let's see

[drowsy plank]

i dont know why it wouldnt in this scenario

yeah it got flagged

go find 209 characters lmao

[indigo yacht]

💔

wont let me yap.........

i don't believe it counts the title, at least

guh
i wish there was slightly more leeway, I don't feel like i can be properly persuasive and administer as much information as id like with only 1k characters

but i suppose other people do it just fine, so must be a me thing

[drowsy plank]

you just gotta work to rephrase what you wanna say with less

it aint hard, and it forces you to think about what the actual core of the problem is

[tropic yoke]

The terraformer is technically a way to remove biomes PML

Also the Hallow, at least, does still have a use

[median scaffold]

Bandaid fix™️

[indigo yacht]

the way i see it, is if i want to get people to actually think about the problem I'm presenting is i first have to explain what it is and why it's something that should be changed, then how my proposal fixes the issue and then a little blurb about more lenient implementation which doesn't really matter that much but helps to hopefully broaden the scope of possible solutions and increase the likelihood of implementation or for someone else to come up with a better idea

[tropic yoke]

You're just not committed

[crude geode]

there's things you don't have to explain though

like people know what biome spread is

[tropic yoke]

I'd've thought you'd talk about how the ice or desert villages, if you have them set up for a pylon system, are almost always overtaken and retaken if you try to cleanse them

My only gripe with the spread is that I'm an average pylon enjoyer and the evil biome fucks that up quite a bit in hardmode

[indigo yacht]

I'd be willing to bet the average terraria player doesn't know that killing plantera halves the spread speed, so the bit about it being easy to control in phm and annoying in hardmode was to build to that, which in turn lends credence to the proposal

something something rhetorical appeals

[crude geode]

the credence to your proposal is votes and a player's experience more than anything tbfh