suggestions-discussion

[echo leaf]

or is it 3? 4?

somewhere in that ballpark

[indigo yacht]

it would only exacerbate the issue imo because ninja gear is already really good so a ram would make it indispensable

[echo leaf]

Actually what if the dash cooldown of Tabi and Ornate Shield just got swapped

[prisma briar]

make it like 5s

[echo leaf]

The ornate shield line is also better for just dashing in general since the cooldown between dashes is shorter than that of the tabi line

if they got swapped, then tabi now becomes better as a mobility tool whereas ornate shield trades a bit of mobility for the ram

[prisma briar]

or just put the ram part on a small cooldown

[indigo yacht]

i think the reason why tabi has a longer cooldown is because ninja dashes are just usually a lot (?) longer than their counterparts

ik void sash is anyways

[echo leaf]

wait let me check that

well fuck the calamity Dashes page only lists the modded ones... i'll research more

Statis' Void Sash is 38 tiles

Statis' Ninja Belt is 24
Ornate Shield is 15
Asgard's Valor is 18
Elysian Aegis/Asgardian Aegis is 28

Tabi/MNG is 22 tiles

[clever canopy]

Honestly the longer distance is often a detriment

[echo leaf]

I wouldn't say it's often enough to really care tooooo much about

It'll change how they feel and it'll need a bit of getting used to if switching from one to the other

[clever canopy]

What if mng and upgrades could also allow for vertical dashes?

[north oracle]

@lucid marsh your suggestion is over the 1000 character limit

[indigo yacht]

i agree here, sometimes it really is

[crude geode]

I disagree with this on the basis it’s just moving the problem

[clever canopy]

Would it bring any interesting gameplay for mng and upgrades to give a buff when clinging to a wall? The climbing gear aspect is almost never considered when I think of the item

[crude geode]

Water wall clinging arenas

[indigo yacht]

ngl wall clinging has only ever been a downside for me

specifically when fighting scal, i have to avoid the walls or i will die which is annoying

i wish it was removed, it really does not add anything to the accessory

[lucid marsh]

No one liked it anyways. I'll just delete it

[clever canopy]

Depending on the buff though I feel it could be useful in some fights, like golem or, actually, probably just golem unless the player goes out of their way

[indigo yacht]

the featherfall potion in question:

wall clinging in golem isnt practical either i dont think

[clever canopy]

It would be kinda cool if it reset some of the players flight time maybe

But there's just hooks for that anyway

[indigo yacht]

i cannot lie i think this is a cool idea, but all the same i would just rather not have the stat on the accessory

[crude geode]

Hooks indeed outclass wall clinging in pretty much every way

[clever canopy]

Add sailfish boots at the Statis Ninja Belt phase to make it the ultimate frog leg accessory?

Idk I think I'm just memeing at this point

[indigo yacht]

they're adding magiluminescense which will do basically nothing in boss fights but will be nice to have outside of boss fights

[lucid marsh]

Magiluminescense grants a massive boost to movement control via acceleration and deceleration. It can make dashes not strictly necessary for turning around

[indigo yacht]

only when you're grounded

which is just about never for yharon and rarely for exos and scal

i can see some use on scal, if you use a hammered platform arena

like genuinely helpful, but that's probably about it

unless you can rungod mecha mayhem with it

that would be funny

[violet zephyr]

Seraph Tracers + Statis' Void Sash being meta would be funny.

[indigo yacht]

i was hoping that it would allow you to rungod without the tracers so that wings could finally just totally stomp on them, but agreed

endgame magiluminescense

i wanna try that now actually

[gaunt needle]

devs should add celestial starboard to the tracer line to make tracers actually viable

[echo leaf]

and then everyone would complain about the starboard dash bug

[indigo yacht]

deserved for using tracers

[echo leaf]

Finally- people will stop using tracers and the world will be at peace

[abstract geyser]

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[gaunt quest]

Why y'all hating on tracers

[fleet grotto]

alternatively, nerf ram dashes

asgards valor is, imo, the best accessory in the game with not too much contention

[safe pine]

literally any hardmode wing tops it imo, for everything except Infernum DoG

flight is really just that valuable

[fleet grotto]

wings feel special, it's hard to count them to me

hard to explain

[safe pine]

who knows, though I do like the idea of making tracers into hover wings, even if I hate hover wings it gives those who like them an option post-prov

[safe pine]

do a noAcc run and still tell me ram>wing 👁️👁️

[fleet grotto]

polterghast

[lucid marsh]

Wings are a necessity most of the time

I use both shield and wings

But I also use wing slot like 80% of the time

They feel like armor to me

[fleet grotto]

also I'm saying wings are special because they don't feel like an accessory when they're literally required*

[safe pine]

I'm making that a suggestion btw

[fleet grotto]

instead of using any wing, tracers now use exclusively starboard

[safe pine]

not required, but damn are they nice to have. With the default dash being a thing, I would always value them over a ram dash. Do rams come second? Yes, but wings are still way better

[fleet grotto]

required*

* not actually required, but essentially a necessity. i don't value them the same as an accessory because they're so vital.

[safe pine]

alright ig

balloon supremacy over wings!!

[indigo yacht]

fun

[indigo yacht]

i agree

post ml bohb upgrade that is actually good unlike moab

quintuple jump

[indigo yacht]

actually that would be quite good i think

[safe pine]

IKR

would love to see more balloons lmao

[indigo yacht]

deadass a bohb upgrade just with more jumps would be like, decent

[north oracle]

@safe pine you don't need the "How would this be implemented" section
just what you want and why it's a good idea is all you should have

[indigo yacht]

even later in the game

anyways uh hover wings idk I don't use hovers, they're probably effective

would make tracers better i think

[safe pine]

ik, just mentioning what I've already thought of for implementation concerns, if it's better to remove I can ig

[safe pine]

I wouldn't say better, but different, it takes them from "boot+nerfedWing" to a different type of flight

[north oracle]

you shouldn't have a specific implementation in a suggestion

[safe pine]

got it, will fix

[north oracle]

thank you 👍

[indigo yacht]

I'd argue different type of flight is better than nerfed wings

maybe

then again i dont really use either

[safe pine]

I would still prefer wings, hell I'd stick to wings even harder, but as much as I dislike hover wings myself, I still think it'd be a good change for the game in general

there's no hover options post-prov atm

[indigo yacht]

@echo leaf hover wing thoughts

i see them use hover wings a fair bit for tmelee

which makes sense

[lucid marsh]

What if aegis line granted immunity to more debuffs, at the times you really needed them? If not immunity, then resistance?

[safe pine]

also hover sticks with the theme of "really good horizontal mobility but less height" for tracers, soo

[lucid marsh]

It is based on ankh shield, after all

[echo leaf]

Occasionally they're really solid

As always it's a niche mobility option, but that's okay- when they work, they're fantastic

[indigo yacht]

i like the idea of more accessories giving debuff immunity or resistance, it makes stuff like celshell and dynamo stem cells more interesting and viable

[lucid marsh]

Also, hover option is a good idea I think

[indigo yacht]

idk if them going on aegis would be the right place but just generally i think they're cool

[echo leaf]

I don't really like how their deceleration is. With how quickly hover wings accelerate to full speed, I would expect them to also be able to decelerate at that speed

[lucid marsh]

I don't think either of those are often viable even with added immunities because there's just no replacement for big stats, which limits which things you can replace with them

[indigo yacht]

celshell is wholly viable and stem cells is like

[safe pine]

would turning Tracers into hover wings make the carpet on Auric a bad thing

[indigo yacht]

passable on ranger

i was mostly just giving stem cells as an example because they fall into the category, they're not particularly good, mn

[north oracle]

stem cells are good because ranger doesn't have much else

but they're pretty solid atm

[indigo yacht]

true

[safe pine]

I can confirm this from my bow-only run, stem cells was like my third ever class-specific acc - my first being quiver and second being deadshot brooch

[north oracle]

you swapped to QoN after that pops up right

[safe pine]

yeah, I forget when it gets unlocked

but it was my 4th acc, 5th was elemental quiver

and pretty sure that was it

[indigo yacht]

did you not have any defensive accessories

[safe pine]

no I mean total unlocked

I had other accs, but throughout the playthrough I used a total of 5 ranger accs

[indigo yacht]

oh

[safe pine]

no 6, there's the sunken sea locket thing pre-hm

[indigo yacht]

no glass cannon 😔

[safe pine]

which... was honestly annoying

[indigo yacht]

rusty medallion

its not very good

[safe pine]

I used as many classless offensive accs as I could, glass cannon is fun

[indigo yacht]

oh yay

[safe pine]

and I never got Sponge, was too lazy

but nonetheless

[indigo yacht]

sponge is basically the only defensive accessory i ever invest in

[safe pine]

I go Radiance personally

and the Aegis

[indigo yacht]

radiance requires you to like spend longer than 5 seconds crafting stuff

im not doing that

[safe pine]

I've used sponge before, it's nice, but idc enough to get a new rover drive if I forgot to get one ahead of time

[safe pine]

post-DoG mission: obtain Rover Drive

[indigo yacht]

i hang on to a drive in advance

because i get like 10 phm

[safe pine]

also I do the whole Radiance line throughout progression, boost to max hp and regen? hell yeah

so Honey Dew, Radiant Ooze, Living dew, Ampoule.. all get used

[indigo yacht]

the only time i use defensive accessories is yharon and company

[safe pine]

then the corrupted jewel is just... farm KS until jewel drops, add aureus cells and done

[indigo yacht]

otherwise i just hallowed+abrain cheese every boss

master mode damage values arent nearly as detrimental if you never take damage

[fleet grotto]

I Always use defensive build... I'm just so awesome...

[safe pine]

what's everyone's issue with the ninja belt idea btw

[golden sonnet]

It doesn't actually address the issues and is a SRS

[safe pine]

ah fair

had to ask out of curiosity

[golden sonnet]

Actually, they appear to have removed the SRS part of it, but it is still misinformed in it's assumptions

It has a niche against literally every single boss that you want a dodge item for, as it is a dodge with 32% vertical speed, which is on par or better than the only other dodge, being a dodge with 10% damage

and it doesn't account for magilum being added to the belts next update

[safe pine]

Magi's being added to the belts

[golden bane]

it should add tsunami and fart into the list, but also add a sharknado in a bottle (from duke)

[golden sonnet]

it also says asguardian is better for SCal and exos, which is subjective, and scal has like no contact damage so belt is generally better

[safe pine]

yeah if I had a suggestion for the belts it woulda been to merge in the scarf thh

[median scaffold]

...uhh, I think Scarf is actually a little bit too similar, to the point of having literally no point of existing in the recipe besides being a filler

[safe pine]

yeah

scarf dodge has shorter cd but only procs if you dash into an attack, but ik they're similar enough it aint worth conbining

[median scaffold]

It doesn't have a shorter cooldown, it just has a fixed one

[safe pine]

hell, the main acc upgrades I want to see (as much as I wouldn't use them) are a pre-DoG or post-DoG absorber, some SoC upgrades, and some more hover wings

[indigo yacht]

isnt void sash only post dog

[median scaffold]

MNG+ is a 15-90 dodge, like BoC line and... I guess that's it, lol

[indigo yacht]

is it post yharon?

[safe pine]

true, forgot about the dodge cd change

[median scaffold]

It is post-DoG, I think

[safe pine]

BoC line and the Ninja Gear line too

[median scaffold]

My nickname is a literal joke about Absorber needing an upgrade at a later stage, but at the same time, it doesn't need one, lol

[safe pine]

yeah post-DoG

[median scaffold]

....uhh, MNG is Master Ninja Gear and I literally said "BoC line", lol

[safe pine]

I think right before or after DoG would be where the upgrade goes

maybe an abyssal Absorber one with Reaper teeth

but definitely not post-Yharon, would be WAY too strong for SCal

[median scaffold]

Absorber is crazy enough to be valuable as a strong all-rounder filler accessory post-Yharon

[indigo yacht]

and that rogue thing

the mirror

[median scaffold]

Oh, right

[safe pine]

that too hah

[median scaffold]

I always forget about Abyssal Mirror+

[safe pine]

ah, didn't realize that's what MNG meant hah

[indigo yacht]

same but thats because i dont play rogue :fire

[safe pine]

mb

[safe pine]

same because I don't use it until eclipse mirror

[median scaffold]

So true 🔥

[safe pine]

anyways yeah, as much as I wouldn't use it I think it'd be nice to have a SoC upgrade... maybe post-WoF, plague theme, and post-Prov/DoG?

[median scaffold]

What's SoC?

[safe pine]

shield of cthulhu

I don't like bonks myself but I'm sure people would use it

and would be fun to use if I ever did tMelee

[median scaffold]

We already have an upgrade (which is a donor item, but who cares) and its niche is almost entirely destroyed by the existence of ram dashes

[safe pine]

eye > fleshy > plagued > profaned being my idea here

[safe pine]

ah.. wait what's the upgrade

[median scaffold]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Shield_of_the_High_Ruler

[safe pine]

a h

[olive saddle]

This thing.... so ass...

[median scaffold]

It's most useful for making the Solar Armor's dash better

[safe pine]

forgot it exists, hah

[median scaffold]

Which is not a whole lot, but I guess that's a niche

[olive saddle]

I tried rogue recently and jesus fucking christ its so strong

[safe pine]

also imma be honest, main reason I want an absorber upgrade is for a post-ML anti-kb acc that isn't a ram

[golden sonnet]

Rampart

[median scaffold]

Just use Absorber

It's awesome

And I'm glad that I dedicated my name to it

[safe pine]

true, but it's post-yharon, what about post-prov → yharon

[median scaffold]

.

[safe pine]

or... basically I'd put something locked behind one of the sentinels

[safe pine]

post-DoG??

[median scaffold]

.

Like, it is insanely good

[safe pine]

ooookay

didn't realize it's that busted lmao

[olive saddle]

It sure feels like absorber is up there for "strongest accessory in the game"

[indigo yacht]

frog leg better tbh

you dont need all that fancy survivability stuff if you just never get hit

[safe pine]

frog leg upgrades are amazing imo

[median scaffold]

I've heard that its aura decreases enemy's DR by 65% or smth, but I may be wrong

[safe pine]

well ah.. question for you two, then

I'm not the greatest at convincing people of stuff (I have a bad charisma score, ik) so is there any rewording or changes I should make to the "give tracers hover" suggestion

[olive saddle]

Tracers have plans already. All i can say

[indigo yacht]

uh probably remove the part about tracers being worse than normal wings lest your suggestion see assault by people who like to go "uh actually its subjective" (tbf it is somewhat subjective)

[olive saddle]

Frogleg is good

[safe pine]

ah, hm.. would still be nice to see more post-ml hovers though, so I felt it would be worth suggesting

[indigo yacht]

starboard upgrade

but make it postgame so its useless

🔥

[safe pine]

ik it's subjective, and I don't think it's really a big deal either, but go into any chat and show a loadout with tracers and you'll be flooded with "@mention tracers suck, normal wings are better"

[safe pine]

would changing it to "make tracers a hover, or add a starboard upgrade" work, or be too vague

[indigo yacht]

too vague

[safe pine]

yeah figured

[indigo yacht]

atp just suggest "adding hover wings post moon lord" or whatever

[median scaffold]

Hover is weird

[safe pine]

I don't use hovers myself but ik people like them, and I appreciate the versatility they introduce to wings, so.. I do want to see them exist post-ml

[safe pine]

at that point it's gonna be a whole new suggestion, not an edit to the current ones

[indigo yacht]

not entirely

you would suggest tracers as a possible avenue for implementation, as well as the starboard upgrade

idk

[safe pine]

alr, gimme... a few mins rq

[safe pine]

can I dm to work on rewrites some

[indigo yacht]

uh sure

[tiny glen]

potion of sand lmfao

[drowsy plank]

i swear this already got denied

[indigo yacht]

i have never ever noticed nor thought about aggro

[hollow shell]

I noticed this in one of my first rogue playthroughs I think

Getting to max stealth and hanging out near enemies,
it's entirely arbitrary and dependent on the enemy AI how the enemies react to you when you're invisible

Some actually have non-aggro AI and will walk past you
Some have no such thing and will universally target you regardless

[echo leaf]

Yeah, I noticed that

The ones that ignore aggro are frustrating!

[hollow shell]

POV a room full of fighter AI enemies and exactly one Eater Of Souls AI enemy when a stealthed player is nearby
https://youtu.be/LjYz4w-REjg

sorry this is the first thing that came to mind for some reason

[echo leaf]

REAL

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

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[novel belfry]

this might get rejected but who knows

[indigo yacht]

oooooooh

[olive saddle]

its a boss minion too i think

thats why

[fleet grotto]

tbf king slime is a even bigger breaker of the rule

the spiked ice/jungle slime minions he spawns literally get affected by banners AND royal gel

[hollow idol]

swarmer and aurora spirit are both receiving banners in the sunken sea update

[fleet grotto]

"Add normal contact damage to Armed Zombies

Currently, Armed Zombies only deal damage while swinging. However, they cannot swing while midair. This makes them incredibly easy to deal with by just jumping. I suggest giving them the same contact damage as normal zombies while not swinging to keep them a threat."

thought of this in literally less than a minute

but... why

[violet zephyr]

@atomic aurora Being able to fight Yharon early is intentional.

[atomic aurora]

fr?

dang

[drowsy plank]

should i flag or lock the suggestion then?

[hollow idol]

yeah

(idk whats more fitting, flag to me implies the thing got added based on the sugg)

[drowsy plank]

i meant exclaim it before it reaches voting

[oblique otter]

niko oneshot

but anyway does this conflict with sso or no

[drowsy plank]

@orchid iris there's already an item in the game called giant pearl

[orchid iris]

oh wait

gimme a min

[oblique otter]

oh what where

[drowsy plank]

furthermore, your suggestion is not following the proper format; you should be explaining what the problem is, not giving an implementation

[violet zephyr]

Isn't this also a Specific Item Suggestion?

[drowsy plank]

also as others said, this is likely going to be irrelevant when SSO drops

technically, yes

lol

[orchid iris]

[oblique otter]

sorry niko oneshot

[vestal crater]

would doing a suggestion of being able to place sea prism shards on platforms be a good idea or would it change in SSO?

[fleet grotto]

can I get a feedback on this btw :3

[violet zephyr]

Do you know if it is possible to ask for Armed Zombies to swing in midair?

[errant wren]

i love part of terraria where all the enemies are strategic about killing the player

but that is pretty fair

[echo leaf]

I believe so

Not sure, though.

Needs testing

[violet zephyr]

We need a developer who deals with enemy AI...

[distant gyro]

easily

[hollow verge]

my 1 question is why this matters? why is this an issue? who cares if experienced players figure out how to deal with them? genuinely, im asking why this is a problem, this isnt aggro

[fleet grotto]

they're less dangerous than normal zombies

[hollow verge]

...and? they're zombies, and you also have to know to do this

again: why is this exploit of the ai a problem?

[fleet grotto]

...the stronger variant of an enemy is easier to deal with than the weaker variant

[hollow verge]

they're zombies.

they're dangerous until you get an armor set.

also terraria calamity is game of "knowing the ai means it's a win"

[fleet grotto]

idont think the actual power of the enemy matters

[hollow verge]

i dont think people should be punished for knowing how the ai works. you figured out a strategy to deal with an enemy, you deserve to be able to deal with it

like i get what youre saying about "theyre easier to deal with", but theyre not weaker.

there's a distinct difference between "the design of this offers ways to handle it" and "this is weaker".

[golden sonnet]

@cerulean stirrup I already got this suggestion passed for the next update

[cerulean stirrup]

oh alr, wasnt aware of that but thanks

[golden sonnet]

#suggestions-voting message

[golden sonnet]

All good! Was just letting you know why I marked it as invalid

[cerulean stirrup]

im currently rebuilding in that layer and having to use dragonlens to paint the wall tiles is a nightmare

[golden sonnet]

That's why I suggested it too yeah

Lmao

Was frustrated because it literally exists in game but can't be placed normally

[cerulean stirrup]

like why wasnt it even added as an item? what was the point

if anything id think it'd be more understandable if voidstone had this issue

[olive saddle]

Armer zombies is oddly dangerous

[drowsy plank]

if you're going to flag that, im going to flag the draconic swarmer sugg because yuh said they were already added

but no one ever responds when i ping them again asking about if this kind of stuff should be flagged

[cunning ibex]

I havnt been around long enough to know, but do they have any plans for any sentry focused gear (accessories or armor) like how they might be adding new whips?

[frozen hornet]

I don't think so

[grim tusk]

Although something new based on DD2’s Mercenary would be cool for Rogue/Summoner; where, how do you make it, why and will it ever be sprited?

[cunning ibex]

Darkest dungeon? Hell yeah.

[grim tusk]

Dungeon Defenders 2

[random hound]

hello im in my first playthrough of this game and one thing i noticed is how unrewarding killing dungeon guardian is

like it got a ranged attack and less health but even if you kill it you still dont get anything other than pet

it should get some kind of drop

not anything super strong but something cool maybe idk

[north oracle]

It's a hidden boss that only serves to stop you from going to the dungeon early
Even less than primordial wyrm, you aren't actually meant to fight it

[random hound]

yeah makes sense i guess

maybe i only noticed cuz im using alchemistnpc lite so i could spawn it with the summon sold by some npc

[drowsy plank]

lmfao

[olive saddle]

Question: how would it even fit in the shop too

[golden sonnet]

can always add a new tab

also could be a drop from the event

not necessarily bought

[olive saddle]

that can work i suppose

[crude geode]

Could also get thrown into bandit’s shop when appropriate tiers are unlocked

[errant wren]

bandit stole them from the tavernkeep before he could put them in stock

[oblique otter]

@dusk pagoda i think this channel is exclusively for the ingame mod itself(?(

[dusk pagoda]

but i have no clue where to post it

i want the other album sooo bad

[oblique otter]

i think it's up to the calamarketing department to decide

[dusk pagoda]

they released the first album them didnt release the second

[grim tusk]

@ancient widget pinging you since its merch related

do we allow suggestions regarding merch here?

[oblique otter]

since, y'know, its a process

[dusk pagoda]

the first album was released in 2020

i just wanna remind them

that there are still people who want the music

[oblique otter]

gotta wait for fabsol's response ig

or another dev

[royal tapir]

Literally the first don't says that only suggestions for the mod's content is allowed

[crude geode]

You say that like shade isn’t a dev

[indigo yacht]

the reference to the word another isn't limited to one object

[royal tapir]

Also this is already planned iirc

[dusk pagoda]

PLEASE TELL ME WHEN

[oblique otter]

another

[royal tapir]

No release date from my awareness idk I don't follow marketing too closely

[oblique otter]

2025!!

(no)

[indigo yacht]

3025

[crude geode]

Whenever Yharim is released

[dusk pagoda]

do we have an estimate on when that is???

[boreal lichen]

No

[crude geode]

Absolutely not

[dusk pagoda]

:(

[errant wren]

oh i have an estimate

it's between now and a week after it's out

[boreal lichen]

Real

Byeah, Yharim is like multiple minor and major updates away, at best you can say he's years away

[errant wren]

yharim will be real at least a week after he's added for real

[dusk pagoda]

yeah cause i was thinking of making a custom album with the other calamity soundtrack

[grim tusk]

must have looked over it, oops

[dusk pagoda]

because i couldnt find anything about the new volume

cause i want songs like catastrophes before the calamity and interstellat stomper

my personal favourite out of the calamity soundtrack

[ancient widget]

Sure, I don't see any reason to be against it.

Very few of them will be accepted by the marketing team and myself, which is to be expected when it comes to merchandise.

But it would give us some helpful insight into what the community would like.

[ancient widget]

As merchandise mustn't be done willy-nilly, it needs to be carefully vetted in order to assure it will be both profitable and feasible to create.

[dusk pagoda]

fair enough

[north oracle]

If people start posting suggestions to "make X merch" a lot we may have rethink that

[errant wren]

sugg: make merch suggestions channel

[dusk pagoda]

yeah

or just off game suggestion channe;

[errant wren]

wait no it was a joke

you didn't give me time to write

[north oracle]

Actually you'd have to send that to modmail as that is a suggestion about the server

Smh

[olive saddle]

my two cents: deleting it but also forwarding it to the people who do marketing is probably convenient

[novel belfry]

Dragonfolly would make for a neat plushie

more so the swarmers tho

[grim tusk]

@hollow shell you may remove merch suggs from the donts doc

[errant wren]

exo mechs plushie set

[indigo yacht]

what's exactly the criteria for... sort of resuggesting something that was already suggested?

[crude geode]

it didn't get to devs in the past..6 months? and the voting period for it has ended

[indigo yacht]

hmm

i was thinking about suggesting a moab upgrade, and as far as i can tell none of the suggestions pertaining to it have anything besides stars

[dusk pagoda]

well i just joined this server about an hour ago

[ancient widget]

If they're being spammed then yes, certainly

[olive saddle]

the moab upgrade is called bundle of balloons

[indigo yacht]

lmfaooooooooo fair but i just want something

i guess i could instead ask for a moab rework that's just a better version of bohb

more jumps or jump speed or whatever

[errant wren]

make moab infinite slow flight unless you get hit for 100+ hp within 5 seconds

i jest

[indigo yacht]

wow! this is worthless!

[errant wren]

i honestly do think moab could fulfill a niche

maybe

[dusk pagoda]

what about for each 10 seconds of not getting hit you gain +1 extra balloon for faster jump speed and a extra jump, (max of +1 not in boss fight) (max of 3 in boss fight)

works well with addrenaline

extra survival if you survive well

[hollow shell]

Oh, huh, hm

That is indeed different than the typical sugg scope

I think we usually relay stuff like this to the devs via the dev-mod connection channel?

[ashen warren]

This was Fab's answer about it.

[ancient widget]

It could simply be kept to only the dev-mod channel, so long as the interest in a product can be gauged based on public reactions (which is normally done with 'regular' suggestions via the star reaction)

If interest cannot be quantified, then it would be quite dubious to determine which merch suggestions are worthwhile

[hollow shell]

Alright, sure I'll see what I can do about making this official

(In this particular case is a Volume 2 vinyl not already planned?)

[dusk pagoda]

you would some good advertising to help people know about the merch

that way you cna see what merch is wanted and what is no

t

[grim tusk]

pretty sure it is

probably more songs needed or smth

[coral carbon]

administer more music

[drowsy plank]

wild things happening in here today

that's gonna be funny to sort out

[novel belfry]

i mean, seeing fabsol here was a flashbang for me

[dusk pagoda]

the first vinyl had 8 songs

so there will probaly be 8 songs in the next vinyl aswell

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove or Modify the Hardmode Progression Lock on Solar Tablet]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@novel belfry - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Ceaseless Void's Bestiary Entry look more like an intentionally empty entry.]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@echo leaf - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Convert all instances of classless damage (e.x. Spore Sac, Bone Glove) into scaling typeless damage (e.x. Slagsplitter Pauldron, Feather Crown) OR to summon damage (e.x. Profaned Soul Artifact, Heart of the Elements)]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@lapis canyon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Change boss self damage number text popup from green to red]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[oblique otter]

aw

[oblique otter]

cant wait for natural eclipses happening pre hm

[novel belfry]

[drowsy plank]

finally lmao

lets go

[golden bane]

Im guessing theyre just gonna make tablet usable, similar to how nat eclipses dont happen premech

[sand marlin]

Moon Stone will be pre boss with just a hoik away now Ig

Tbf they never said that it'd be changed to

[olive saddle]

i assume the reason we cant shift click stuff into the chargers is tmod and not calamity right

[leaden ibex]

It's sad the cv bestiary suggestion didn't pass

[ripe owl]

#suggestions-posting message
Cool n all but shouldn't this be marked?

[north oracle]

please scroll up.

[ripe owl]

Yeah but
It's not a mod suggestion
And it's already acknowledged and will be added in the future

Whatever, I won't argue

[indigo yacht]

bat hook once again preboss 🙏

[umbral gazelle]

falsehood, there is no image

[novel belfry]

it took so long for someone to notice this discrepancy

so long that it literally got rejected before this was noticed

[idle dagger]

So merchandise suggestions are being allowed? Interesting, I’ve got ideas that I will probably post if so

[vestal crater]

Halloween bags?

[echo leaf]

Another, identical Yharon plushie

[thin hazel]

can moves it to eclipse

*cal

[vestal crater]

Yeah I am having an emotional crisis cuz a qol mod adds it as a recipe and I used it for all of pre hardmode and dread and queen slime no hits

Probably

I hope not

[grave zinc]

@echo leaf - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Highlight Draedon's lab turrets with Dangersense effects]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[echo leaf]

🎉

[thin hazel]

lets go turret feature

even enemy turrets deserve love

[indigo yacht]

yo'rue did it

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove or Modify the Hardmode Progression Lock on Solar Tablet]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[royal tapir]

Solar Tablet now requires either Hardmode, a mech boss dead, or Plantera dead

[indigo yacht]

[drowsy plank]

https://tenor.com/view/chiaki-default-gif-18240154

[indigo yacht]

big fan of the implication that you could fight plantera before both wof and a mech boss

[royal tapir]

[drowsy plank]

[indigo yacht]

i know that trapper bulbs are dying which was the main reason you couldnt before

[thin hazel]

i remember getting excited bc i remembered photo potions could spawn in planetoids. until i discovered, yk, the thing

im happy trapper bulbs are dying

[indigo yacht]

if they didn't spawn naturally then it would be possible actually

you used to be able to shimmer them i think before they got added to that

and you could craft them at a bewitching table after killing ravager

[thin hazel]

oh hm i didnt consider ravager dropping sunlight (indirectly)

[grave zinc]

@lapis canyon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Change boss self damage number text popup from green to red]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[olive saddle]

Very cool

[indigo yacht]

not a single comment on moab before voting I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing

[olive saddle]

i commented on it

the improvement to moab is bundle of balloons

[indigo yacht]

fair but that was before i posted it

[dusk pagoda]

its just a good suggestion

i dont think there is much to discuss

it needs improvement

[errant wren]

funnily, i think a rework would just be the current double jumps and then infinite small double jumps until you take too much damage

[olive saddle]

wait its the gnarpy

[dusk pagoda]

zip zip zoob?

[olive saddle]

ereuh

ef-0sadfklsda lmao

[dusk pagoda]

for the light pet one i would prefer that a setting as i still like seeing my pet but i dont like seeing it infront of me alot because in boss fights i have often confused my pet for a projectile (wisp in a bottle)

[drowsy plank]

CIT can you please lock this suggestion if this is true

[grave zinc]

@dusk pagoda - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add the volume II of the calamity soundtrack onto vinyl]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[dusk pagoda]

[leaden ibex]

Do not mention this disgusting creature.

[golden bane]

What if the Rouge Slash (a dragonfolly weapon) dealt Rouge damage on gfb

[fleet grotto]

it does

[golden bane]

Not listed on item changes on the wiki

[fleet grotto]

that's because every instance of "rogue" is replace with "rouge"

I'm gonna go die now

holy shit

actually idiot

(me)

sorry

[frozen hornet]

wrong slash

[prisma sedge]

Change boss self damage number text popup...damn, that's a mouthful

[prisma briar]

in some fucked up universe there's an upgrade to the moab called the zomg with green horseshoe balloon

[novel belfry]

OF COURSE

[errant wren]

and it gets even worse to use

[fleet grotto]

post dog one called the bad that uses sharkron balloon

[median scaffold]

What

[vestal crater]

cheese you did it

You son of a gun

[median scaffold]

I've only entered Discord and... uhhhh

[vestal crater]

Or girl of a gun

Or whatever

[median scaffold]

The fuck are you talking about?

[vestal crater]

Go to suggestion posting

[median scaffold]

What the fuck was the background behind this suggestion?

[boreal lichen]

Go to lore discussion, and backread

[vestal crater]

Lore about auric ore

[hollow verge]

this is the strangest. suggestion

[median scaffold]

No, like
Is it kind of a joke that you and Cheese made, or I'm going crazy trying to make connections from weird and actually funny things?

[vestal crater]

Ok so we talked about auric ore and that theoretically an insulator like wood would stop the electricity

Then someone said what if wooden armor

Then the rest will be history

Hopefully

[median scaffold]

[vagrant spindle]

this is based on a headcanon basically
I don't remember if any of the writers actually confirmed this as the reasoning

😭

[boreal lichen]

[vagrant spindle]

but like

[boreal lichen]

Trully the situation of all time

[vagrant spindle]

idk

[vestal crater]

It’s hilarious

[median scaffold]

Can I ping one of the writers just to continue the bit?

[vagrant spindle]

probably

[vestal crater]

I wouldn’t recommend it it’s mean

But it would be really funny

[median scaffold]

@strange grove
I'm really sorry for this... uhh, situation, but can you confirm this... fact?
#suggestions-posting message

[vestal crater]

😭

[median scaffold]

I may be dead in the following few days, but who knows!

[errant wren]

wood being auric insulation sounds funny as hell but like why

[vestal crater]

Go to lore

[errant wren]

i've gathered as much already

[vagrant spindle]

same reason why golfballs get bounced by auric

it's funny

[vestal crater]

Wait it does???

That’s so funny

[median scaffold]

Yep

[vagrant spindle]

yea

[median scaffold]

A 2.0.4.003 addition, I think

[vestal crater]

Oh yeah I gotta do a golf ball thing in my world

[median scaffold]

Either way, that was a funny suggestion (Auric Golfer)

[vestal crater]

Ye

[royal tapir]

Insane asylum suggestion

[golden sonnet]

^

[errant wren]

surely this won't pass?

[median scaffold]

CIT

[vagrant spindle]

appropriate for cheese

anyway idk if this falls under joke sugg

[median scaffold]

Well, that would make wooden armors more useful than they're currently, either way...

[vagrant spindle]

i dont hang around here nearly enough

[royal tapir]

@vagrant spindle 🤏

[vestal crater]

I honestly hope it will be accepted

[boreal lichen]

😨

[median scaffold]

Wait, actually, on the lore side of thing
...aren't Lunar Pickaxes and specifically Tarragon pickaxe made out of non-wood materials?

[vagrant spindle]

isnt uelibloom fossilized tree bark

therefore wood

[boreal lichen]

Yeah

[dusk pagoda]

Well tarragon seems very plant like

[vagrant spindle]

(also i dont think you can mine auric with lunar pickaxes)

[vestal crater]

You can’t

But still

[vagrant spindle]

still what

[median scaffold]

Fair
Luminite?

[vestal crater]

Still if the pickaxe is made out of non wood materials it would be knocked back if they would add that to not insolent pickaxes

[median scaffold]

You don't get deleted when you try to mine, technically speaking, touching it with a pointy thingy

[vestal crater]

Which should only be in gfb

[vagrant spindle]

...shrimply make you get rejected by non-blossom pickaxes

[vestal crater]

That sounds smarter I’m going with that

[vagrant spindle]

[vestal crater]

Gfb should add that

Can you suggest stuff about special seeds

[median scaffold]

Every pickaxe, if we are talking about GFB

[golden sonnet]

crystyl crusher:

[vagrant spindle]

not canon, not real

[median scaffold]

Only if it makes enough sense and has good reasoning

[vagrant spindle]

• raito

raito

ratoi

ratio

[golden sonnet]

ur mom

[boreal lichen]

raito

[median scaffold]

My dad

[errant wren]

raito

[vestal crater]

So like most suggestions then?

raito

[vagrant spindle]

damn

ratio'd my raito

[median scaffold]

Basically, yeah

[vagrant spindle]

😔

[median scaffold]

That's raitong your raito

[vagrant spindle]

ratatoing

[median scaffold]

Oh god

[vestal crater]

Isn’t that a shitty ratatouille knockoff

[errant wren]

ra ra ra a aa

[vagrant spindle]

yes

i dont remember anything about it besides the name

[errant wren]

yeah i have also heard of that

[vagrant spindle]

it's stuck with me for a decade

[vestal crater]

I remember it from the funny crab guy talking about it

Schaffrilas

[median scaffold]

That one video about Ratatoing being a good parody on the goverment system or smth...

[median scaffold]

YESS

[vagrant spindle]

the hwat

[vestal crater]

Very good YouTube video honestly

[median scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWkUPcjX4-8

[vagrant spindle]

oh god

[median scaffold]

Ehh, close enough

[boreal lichen]

Horrid

[vagrant spindle]

how did we go from auric rejection to ratatoing

[median scaffold]

What have I unleashed.....

[vestal crater]

I actually remembered something

The dementia is kicking out

[median scaffold]

The beauty of #suggestions-discussion
Somehow both worse and better than CMT, and consistently more confusing

[glass arch]

is this sugg legit or is it a shitpost because either way its god tier

[vestal crater]

Real

[vestal crater]

True that

[median scaffold]

We need more, I'm laughing my ass off 🙏

[vagrant spindle]

with cheese it could be either

[boreal lichen]

This sugg rocks

[vestal crater]

Me too

[glass arch]

with cheese its probably both

[boreal lichen]

Now we just need a seal of approval

[vagrant spindle]

anyway accept it right now or i will be moderately disappointed

[median scaffold]

Ping Raesh
Will help
Trust

[vestal crater]

Was the pun intended

[errant wren]

explode

[median scaffold]

Yeah, actually, explod

[vagrant spindle]

not intended actually

[vestal crater]

Like mod erately dissapointed

[boreal lichen]

Explodes you with my mind

[median scaffold]

Explo y wi m

[vestal crater]

💀 ➡️ 💥

[glass arch]

@river lily be more assertive with your statement, even if you're wrong you should do it confidently

[vagrant spindle]

you kaboom

[vestal crater]

It will be accepted

If not

I will be

[median scaffold]

I'm exploding this whole chat.

[vestal crater]

Lol

[glass arch]

remove the last couple of sentences, basically

[errant wren]

this is the worst suggestion because it makes sense

[vestal crater]

It’s the best as well cause it’s funny

[boreal lichen]

[vestal crater]

What even is this

[median scaffold]

I'm hella biased towards this suggestion just because we discussed Ratatoing of all things

[vestal crater]

A buff?

[median scaffold]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Auric_Absorber

[vestal crater]

True

[vagrant spindle]

insane statement

[vestal crater]

Ohhh the block

[median scaffold]

And not a false one, which is more insane

[vestal crater]

I agree tho

[errant wren]

this sugg has unleashed... something

[vestal crater]

Like with no auric tier absorber

[vestal crater]

Suggestion discussion will become the new old lore chat

[median scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/salami-salamander-lumerian-gif-25839987

[errant wren]

i swear to god

[vestal crater]

I haven’t even seen prikki

[errant wren]

i knew this was going to happen

[median scaffold]

I should make a suggestion talking about Salaminder that breaks every rule possible

[median scaffold]

Cook him!

[river lily]

❓

[errant wren]

cook who??

[median scaffold]

Le salaminder.

[glass arch]

i think you should remove the last 2 sentences where you're unsure of the original statement
whether its correct or not if it gets into dev they'll be able to correct it there

[errant wren]

this entire conversation has been... calamitous

[vestal crater]

no

do not the calamitous

[glass arch]

plus it would be really funny if this ends up gaslighting devs

[boreal lichen]

Insane

I wonder how the masses will react to the suggestion if it gets to voting

[errant wren]

arrow

[vestal crater]

I will make 100 extra accounts and rig the votes (no I won’t I’m too lazy and it’s bad)

[median scaffold]

Ratatoing

[vestal crater]

What’s up is also a bad knockoff of up

[glass arch]

this is the one instance of a sugg being so funny that i would let it through if i was a mod and the only reasoning was it would be cool

[median scaffold]

Didn't watch that video yet, sorry

[vestal crater]

Sad

[vestal crater]

Real

[vagrant spindle]

me rn

[river lily]

I

YOU DIDNT SAY IT WAS A HEADCANON

YOU WROTE IT AS IF IT WAS TRUE

KILLS YOU

this is yur fault.

the fault lies within garbo

[boreal lichen]

[river lily]

ahab giif

[vestal crater]

It’s not a mistake

It’s a piece of art

I can’t sleep until I see the outcome of this

[errant wren]

i mean

it is the most based sugg i've seen since i started actively reading them in posting

[vagrant spindle]

😭

its ok its a good suggestion trust

[fleet grotto]

i have a terrible suggestion idea should i even share it

[vestal crater]

Say what it is

[median scaffold]

Yes.

[fleet grotto]

rename either astrum aureus or astrum deus

[median scaffold]

This chat has been through some shit past few hours, so it wouldn't be too bad

[median scaffold]

...meh, I think that's fine enough as an idea

Although I can't say for sure if lore could be a problem here or not

[vagrant spindle]

honestly yea

i think aureus could very well drop the astrum

[fleet grotto]

on a surprising amount of occasions people have messed their names up, probably because theres only a 3 letter different between them

astrum AUReus
astrum Deus

literally

[sand marlin]

Our

[median scaffold]

That one USSR gif

[fleet grotto]

yeah pronunciation is different but also whenever isee Astrum Deus I pronounce it as "doose" and not "day us"

[sand marlin]

No that was just me making a terrible joke

[fleet grotto]

oh

[median scaffold]

...I literally pronounce it as "De U S"

[fleet grotto]

the us

🦅

[sand marlin]

🚶‍♂️‍➡️🛌

[fleet grotto]

wh

is discord fucking combining emojis now

[median scaffold]

Man is walking to the right trying to sleep just because your joke was boring or smth, idfk

[errant wren]

pfft

[fleet grotto]

the emoji is breaching containment

[errant wren]

would maybe explain some goofy crap that happens to me with the 🏳️‍⚧️ sometimes

[grim tusk]

@river lily nice argument, unfortunately Lategame picks are all metallic

[errant wren]

fossilized tree bark is metallic, interesting...

[grim tusk]

altho im not sure if this counts as a joke sugg

[grim tusk]

it forms metallic bars

[river lily]

ITS NOT A JOKE IT WAS GENUINE 😭 😭

I WAS GASLIGHTED

BY GARBO

😭 😭

[grim tusk]

imma exclam it, not like it will pass anyways

best to be safe than sorry

[errant wren]

😔

chat we lost the war

wrong channel i think

[ashen warren]

oh yeah

[errant wren]

happens to the best of us

where were we...

oh right

[vagrant spindle]

shade you should kill cheese for this

[median scaffold]

We should explode Shade for being this unfunny 💔

[errant wren]

we lost the war 😔

[vagrant spindle]

😈

[median scaffold]

We shoule also explode Garbo for being Aureus' lover 💔

[vagrant spindle]

[river lily]

we should explode garbo for GASLIGHTING ME!!!

[errant wren]

what a... calamity

[vagrant spindle]

god forbid i have hobbies

[errant wren]

we should explode the ❗ because it was totally a good sugg

[vagrant spindle]

gone 😔

[errant wren]

or.

😔

[median scaffold]

[fleet grotto]

"Rename either Astrum Aureus or Astrum Deus

These two bosses are incredibly alike and are oftentimes confused with eachother by players. They're both from the same biome, not too far from eachother in intended progression, and have incredibly similar names (only 3 letters different). All in all, renaming one of the bosses would likely diminish potential confusion amongst the community."

[errant wren]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-mad-door-slam-quit-gif-22084787

[vagrant spindle]

sounds good

[boreal lichen]

This looks good ye

[errant wren]

pretty good

you should fix the "eachother" though

[grim tusk]

if one had to be renamed it would be Aureus due to being Draedon’s old property, yet it also doesnt belong to him anymore due to the astral taking it

anyways did y’all get bored with no new suggs on #suggestions-posting or smth?

[errant wren]

i mean

we had one

[grim tusk]

are y’all making joke suggs that do not break the rules or smth?

[vagrant spindle]

wdym

[errant wren]

to be quite honest

i don't even remember what happened

[flint notch]

Y’know in hindsight I’m surprised a rename suggestion like this wasn’t put through sooner

[fossil finch]

And the nothing burger suggestion award goes to

[fleet grotto]

:(

[golden sonnet]

I think it has good points

It might not make a major impact on the actual game, but is still an overall improvement even if at the expense of temporary confusion. Like with the tracers name swap

[ripe owl]

Let's be real
Astrum Aureus is just a cool name with nothing to it

It's just "Astral Gold", which is like
No, the boss isn't that

[lucid marsh]

Unless it's supposed to be made of auric, which would be stupid

[hollow shell]

(It's a reference to Staphylococcus Aureus, the bacterium responsible for staph infections)

But yeah it do be a bit confusing how similarly they're named

[ripe owl]

Well then it's a Golden Star, in which case it still doesn't quite make sensr

[ripe owl]

Also this makes me think of how the two would interact with each other, like would the auric try to reject the infection?

[lucid marsh]

I imagine it might

[errant wren]

i can't wait for astral-infected auric gear

[frozen hornet]

Catalyst auric+ armor no way

[umbral gazelle]

petition to find new bacterium and name it astral aureus because we already have minos phrime why cant we make another bacterium named after video game boss

[hollow shell]

Unrelated

How do we feel about the "ding dong ditching" rule being a rule in the doc?

It's actually quite an old rule that was mainly relevant during the era when suggestions needed approval to reach #suggestions-voting lest they get auto-deleted, the inverse of what we have now
so timely responses and fixes were very important.

But is it necessary nowadays?

[olive saddle]

is it when you post a suggestion and immediately go offline

and never respond

[hollow shell]

Yeah

[golden sonnet]

It's pretty unneeded as a rule imo, if a sugg is truly awful it will get exclaimed and they have 24 hours to fix it, if the sugg should be improved and they aren't there to see the feedback it will only negatively affect their own suggestion

granted I do still generally agree with the sentiment, it just being a rule is kinda unenforceable and uneeded imo

[hollow shell]

My sentiments exactly

[errant wren]

we can always just

ping the user about it

[hollow shell]

People do get pinged when feedback is given to them, that's the standard

We don't expect them to fix it if they don't get pinged

[fleet grotto]

what would even be the punishment though

[hollow shell]

It's not punishable it's just telling people not to do that for their own sake

[golden sonnet]

the worst "punishment" you can get in #suggestions-posting is having your suggestion marked invalid. Unless you are genuinely causing issues

[errant wren]

imagine it turns out that that rule is why people don't make suggs
they did read the rules but wanted to ding dong ditch without getting in trouble

but yeah

i think it would be fair to explode that section

[distant gyro]

ding dong ditching is only an issue if your suggestion needs a thing

[errant wren]

or just write it in as a minor note since that's all it really is

[distant gyro]

ive always considered it as a precaution rather than a must

it's like "if you do this you are prone to your suggestion getting deleted, but not always"

[errant wren]

it's just good practice to stick around for a bit when you say something

[distant gyro]

the reason also explains this

[errant wren]

true

[hollow shell]

I think I will just delete that rule, yes.
The user will be pinged and this rule likely does not have much of an effect on whether or not they'd respond to that ping.

[errant wren]

we could maybe have it pinned here?? there isn't much that can really be done with it

nobody checks the pins either...

[hollow shell]

Best place would be Rebecca's pin, but that's at the character limit and she does not have Nitro.

[errant wren]

i can type something up and then we just pin my message

[hollow shell]

We can consider it if there starts to be a ditching epidemic in the wake of the rule's removal.

For now, 🤷 it'll probably be fine

[sand marlin]

I think it still needs to be relevant somewhere

Some people occasionally respond immediately to a suggestion yet the person does not exist for like hours and then because of that, more discussion surrounds a topic that should've never existed in the first place which is really pointless and a lot of stuff gets lost in the process too

[olive saddle]

this might need to go in #1052323733961977947 but idk

[sand marlin]

Yeah do that, it's an oversight/inconsistency which belongs there

Will also be significantly faster

[olive saddle]

would the "a very agile yoyo" on all calamity yoyos being out of date also go there?

[remote mauve]

No

[olive saddle]

ok

[median scaffold]

This line is somewhat weird

[distant gyro]

ive always thought it could be better

[tired haven]

Certainly better than "this yoyo has extraUpdates = 1"

[olive saddle]

i think it could be removed

from what i know calamity yoyos arent any more agile than vanilla yoyos anymore

im not super ceratin but they look similar in speed

[median scaffold]

Every bot should be exploded

...except suggestion and moderation bots

[distant gyro]

was thinking more like this

[vestal crater]

Yeah that would be really nice actually

So you know the stats of yoyos more as it has more properties than most other sub classes

Like duration, reach and speed

[fleet grotto]

would it update with mspeed boosts? since melee speed buffs yoyo reach

[indigo yacht]

i imagine it would, crit and damage update with their respective buffs

i think speed and knockback do too although i havent checked them

[fleet grotto]

they do

[olive saddle]

Holy fuck i forgot about this

Such ab obscure ass stat

[ancient cradle]

oh thats cool, because i remember when i was studying microbiology and saw that name, it immediately reminded me of astrum aureus, and thats how i easily memorized this bacterium name, mnemotechnics are op

[fervent citrus]

i really think there needs to be an easier way to get blood orbs outside of blood moons

graveyards are cool and all but i dont wanna farm 10 blood orbs from one when they have a 10% drop rate from already uncommon enemies

why not just get some in a blood moon? cuz it refuses to appear

[glass arch]

...have you been shimmering bloody tears for blood orbs

[fervent citrus]

nah

i just havent got a blood moon at all yet

[glass arch]

ok good

[fervent citrus]

and yes, my hp is over 100 i'm not a fool

[hollow shell]

This is in reference to Bloody Tear, isn't it?

[fervent citrus]

✅

[glass arch]

the backup way is to get a bloody tear and get a blood moon that way

[fervent citrus]

that is why i'm farming for blood orbs correct

[glass arch]

it directly drops

[hollow shell]

No I mean
Bloody Tear itself- yeah

It actually has a higher drop rate than Orbs themselves, from Bride and Groom

[fervent citrus]

the problem being that after 30 minutes of water candle + battle potion in a graveyard i've only had one groom spawn

[hollow shell]

mmm

So you are damned to RNG either way
Both waiting for the Moon appearance and waiting for the Groom/Bride spawns plus their drop rates

[fervent citrus]

✅

anyways that is why i think making bloody tears more accessible for unlucky people like me would be neat

[drowsy plank]

why not just make the drop chance in graveyards 100%

that seems like an easy way to keep the vanilla method but make it less ass

[hollow shell]

It'd probably be worthwhile adding a guaranteed Blood Moon spawn after some early boss first kill, like EoC

[fervent citrus]

that's a neat idea i think

[drowsy plank]

that was already suggested

[fervent citrus]

denied?

[drowsy plank]

#suggestions-voting message

yes

[hollow shell]

((I personally get a ton of Blood Moons but I know that's the nature of RNG))

[hollow shell]

Shame about that.

Was the reason for denial given?

[drowsy plank]

you think we get reasons?

[fervent citrus]

reason's obvious anyway

just get lucky lol

[drowsy plank]

that's not a reason

[fervent citrus]

i know, that was satire

[drowsy plank]

point is the main problem is devs dont usually respond in here giving reasons or even responding to my requests to lock suggestions sometimes

it's pretty annoying

[hollow shell]

@distant gyro Reason for denial, if you remember?

The "Make blood moon spawn night after you kill some a pre-hardmode boss if blood moon didn't appear yet." suggestion, if the Discord message link fails you

[glass arch]

clearly the solution is to become a dev

[drowsy plank]

easier said than done at this point

ngl would help make sure things actually get marked correctly though

[hollow shell]

(it was never easier done than said except maybe in 2016 )

[glass arch]

actually just bully fluffy or raesh both of them are devs and mods

[drowsy plank]

i mean fair but also like

ive been doing that and still dont get responses sometimes

these are still unmarked for some reason;
#suggestions-voting message
#suggestions-voting message

despite me literally seeing devs say some form of them is being implemented

i requested they be locked but no one has responded and im not a dev so i dont exactly have the ability to do so unless someone actually responds when i ask

[glass arch]

when in relation to the suggs being posted though

[drowsy plank]

shortly thereafter

[hollow shell]

I
now tbf I had a lot goin on with graduating college recently but,
I did not realize both Raesh and Fluffy were devs

[drowsy plank]

it happens a lot in here tbh

yes it's funny because they are both also mods so the roles get buried

[hollow shell]

I wouldn't be surprised if I congratulated them for it before then forgot

[fervent citrus]

oh hey i got another blood orb, just 8 more to go

anyways, i've made my point clear so i'll be heading out now

[glass arch]

fluffys dev role is only visible in calvan so like

thats the only reason i know

[drowsy plank]

funny

both raesh and fluffy are offline ugh

[hollow shell]

iirc there is no middling reaction
So until it reaches a majority vote in either direction, it just stays as Delivered and nothing more

i.e. 5 approved 5 denied

[drowsy plank]

would a lock not be a middle reaction

plus i know these are already added because ive literally talked to devs about them

[glass arch]

lock is a conflicting reaction

[hollow shell]

Very much not, no.

Lock doesn't have any bearing on the devs' approval or rejection. It means existing plans conflict with it.

[drowsy plank]

ah, well i mean

okay well i know the details of the implementation, so that's why it would be a lock

[hollow shell]

Aight in these specific cases then maybe

[median scaffold]

Damn, I need to use 30 minutes of my life to make a suggestion about wooden armors...

[maiden quartz]

would anyone use them still

[median scaffold]

Well, people now actually use other ore armors beside Platinum or Gold ones, so

This will lead to the question of how great and non-specific set bonuses are

[royal tapir]

If you're making a suggestion about giving wood armors unique set bonuses, don't

[maiden quartz]

[echo leaf]

wood armor set bonus should be greater wood yields when cutting down trees of their type

[maiden quartz]

that doesn't sound half bad

[median scaffold]

Why?

[golden sonnet]

Wasn't any discussion about that one, just a 0-6

[hollow shell]

Is it possible to ask about it

[violet zephyr]

I assume it is because EoC already has Acid Rain, and Crabulon's about to get Goblin Army. It could be put with EoW/BoC, though.

[hollow shell]

Crabulon is getting what

[echo leaf]

Maybe now people will stop ignoring crabulon

[golden sonnet]

#changelogs moment

[violet zephyr]

Not locked behind it, just starts it if you haven't already beaten it.

And if you meet the conditions too, I think.

[vestal crater]

would making a suggestion of adding eutropic glass walls be a good idea or is it getting implemented

[violet zephyr]

I am going to explode if I see another mention of Eutrophic Glass Walls.

[gray bone]

Eutrophic Glass Walls

have fun going kablooey

[hollow shell]

goddamn
#changelogs message

6 months ago now

[vestal crater]

ill take that as a no

[hollow shell]

But yeah I don't see any problem with having a similar thing for Blood Moon, especially if it's only for players who have not gotten one yet
So, I dunno why the rejection

[hollow shell]

Eutrophic Glass blocks have an extremely complicated sprite sheet, which is what allows them to look so nice with the diagonal shine
So the walls will be very difficult to translate that to, because their sheets are different from tiles

[vestal crater]

thank you

[hollow shell]

👍

basically the devs are aware but it'll be really hard

[vestal crater]

ah

[tropic yoke]

Is there rubblemaker compatibility in Calam?

[median scaffold]

Yes

[tropic yoke]

Wait whaaat

I gotta see this

[median scaffold]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Ambient_objects#Rubblemaker_Support

[tropic yoke]

That's siiick

ok nvm on the suggestion

Aww wait there's none for crag

[median scaffold]

Don't think there are many ambient objects for Brimstone Crags, but you can make a suggestion about that, I think

[tropic yoke]

Yeah cuz there's the big flowers, and grass and the stalactites/stalagmites

Gotta research

[indigo yacht]

on my most recent playthrough it took me 21 hours to get one blood moon
on the playthrough before that i got 4 in a row like 6 hours in

[hollow idol]

rubblemaker does not support stalags

flowers prolly warrant a separate thing

[echo leaf]

Maybe flower boots+ or bloom stone could make them