suggestions-discussion

[sand marlin]

Why do we need herbs to go even faster you already have too much to even use up halfway into the game if you start planting at the start anyway

And I say this as a person who uses potions regularly outside of bosses

[gaunt needle]

So you have more incentive to explore the jungle (ig)

(If only it wasn't the best biome in the game anyways)

[tired haven]

Its a bit of a paradox because people who dont use potions at all will say planting herbs makes them die of old age, meanwhile those who actually tried it once now reap the benefits within a few minutes

[sand marlin]

Rare CrabBar appearance

[steep patrol]

The only thing I hate about planting herbs is the time it bloom

[patent marsh]

[tired haven]

-# it gets rarer everytime my person is acknowledged and i cant really help it

[sand marlin]

I mean the times may seem impractical but really it's not that bad especially when you can force 90% of those blooming conditions (fuck Blinkroots)

[gaunt needle]

iirc you can collect seeds on the last stage before blooming with staff of growth

(as well as the axe of growth)

[steep patrol]

Really?

[patent marsh]

i have higher rng getting a gf while waiting for blinkroot to bloom

[tired haven]

Thats true, although specifically for not planting on planter boxes (for whatever reason)

[gaunt needle]

Another reason to make that vernal soil suggestion then

[tired haven]

Like if you decide to visit an evil biome with axe of regrowth you can easily get like 20 deathweed and seeds

[steep patrol]

Wait did planting in flower pot the same as ground or it wont get destroy by weapon

[sand marlin]

We should put Blinkroot in some draedon machine to stabilize the randomness so it goes back to just a regular herb

[errant wren]

vernal soil planters

[tired haven]

Its immune to weapon swings, yeah

[steep patrol]

Yeah maybe I should switch to flower pot

[hollow shell]

Kind of a classic balancing conundrum actually

[gaunt needle]

Riches get richer or something tbh

[hollow shell]

Something that's underused but has high power potential for people who know what they're doing
And the devs are trying to make it used more often by the average player
How to do that without making its power potential even higher?

It's definitely not hard to set up an herb garden, especially with the planter boxes obtained from the Planetoid Lab

I always do that real early in PreHM, harvesting every time I see em bloom, and I never have a problem with herbs

[gaunt needle]

You don't even need the herb garden in calamity

[lucid marsh]

I should really do that

[gaunt needle]

Potions aren't too great before skeleton (and also very cheap and also can be found in chests and crates), and after that blood moon fishing provides a ton of blood orbs

[lucid marsh]

Idea: make herbs used in more crafts

Moonglow for some jungle weapons or something, for example

At least one important one for every class

[hollow shell]

Indeed a lot of the time I don't even need to craft potions because I just end up with a ton of potions from various sources

[sand marlin]

Idk fundamentally you just can't cater to all parts of the playerbase so I don't see a reason for any changes. Doesn't help that cal encouraged just ignoring most parts of vanilla previously (still does but not to the same extent)

[gaunt needle]

That would annoy people who don't gather herbs even more and won't matter at all for those who do

[sand marlin]

Like I know there's people who actively dislike cal removing the spelunking for most accessories/items by adding recipes and I am in agreement it may seem convenient but it kills the thrill of spelunking and earning your reward and even if RNG really hates you, you can keep going as the payoff will be even higher or you can stop caring and cheat in something you don't want to do at the time

[lucid marsh]

The point is to nudge people into making herb farms

[hollow shell]

.. Are herb gardens not common? Do people frequently deal with herb shortages?
Is there a problem to be solved here at all?

[sand marlin]

People just get blood orbs

[lucid marsh]

A lot of people just don't make her gardens. The combination of needing those plus fish makes a lot of potions things that people don't bother with

[gaunt needle]

Yeah I don't think there is an issue with that

[steep patrol]

In my life I have never seen any casual player or new player make herb garden

Well casual probably not a right word to use here

[sand marlin]

What people do is just make potions with the stuff they have available and the ones from chests then make do with that until blood orb recipes

[steep patrol]

Herb garden is very cool decor tho

[lucid marsh]

Most of the good options require ingredients other than herbs that make them a pain to farm

[steep patrol]

Oh wait I forgor not only they not like to fish they also not like to build

[lucid marsh]

I like building, but I don't like fishing often. I'll do it just enough to get the cell phone.

[steep patrol]

I just bully DS for cellphone

[gaunt needle]

I would hate fishing if lava crates weren't so good

😔

[steep patrol]

I never in my life tried lava fishing yet

[lucid marsh]

Same

[gaunt needle]

And lava fishing is also a good bit slower than regular fishing

[lucid marsh]

It's just so out of the way from everything else

And slow on top of that

I may push myself to slow down and do a playthrough where I do everything someday

[tired haven]

It's surprisingly uncommon, yeah

[sand marlin]

Until you have above average gear which makes it about as fast as regular fishing

[hollow shell]

I disagree with the point that cheating is a natural step in the progression,
But I do think that some of the vanilla item recipes could be either made more expensive or pushed later in progression, cuz yeah some are truly piss-easy to the point where there's little point in searching for the natural item
Finding stuff in chests is almost always more fun than just crafting em. Recipes get rid of that "Yes!" moment when you find something you wanted, or at least heavily weaken those moments

_ _
But this does kinda run against the uhhhhhhh the point that a lot of people are in their 167th Terraria playthrough and are just impatient at this point, the whimsy lost on them, and they are very hard to healthily design for

[gaunt needle]

Until you have both lavaproof hook and lava fishing rod (or hell bait)

[lucid marsh]

Herb gardens are just not useful unless you have other ingredients on top of the herbs

[sand marlin]

The experienced people can just search for QoL mods that suit their tastes and they do just that anyway

[lucid marsh]

Because most options require some other ingredient

[sand marlin]

Hell I don't even do real playthroughs

[lucid marsh]

I do

But not fully real always

[sand marlin]

My past 5+ runs have just been literally just jumping from one boss to another with prepped gear because I am incredibly unmotivated outside of multiplayer

[lucid marsh]

I usually use Wing slot and I sometimes use unlimited potion buffs

[echo kestrel]

i greatly appreciate the planter boxes from the planetoid lab

[lucid marsh]

The one that lets you make infinite versions of consumables is nice, you still farm a bit, but get to be done with it after

[sand marlin]

And for multiplayer when we try to get the stuff we need, we steamroll through it

Solution: Remove Singleplayer from the game

[hollow shell]

train AI to be terraria partner for those without friend

[sand marlin]

I'm killing you

[gray bone]

[frozen hornet]

Character.ai getting out of hand

[median scaffold]

With the fact that there's a Minecraft SMP made solely from AI characters, I can see this actually working and I can't say if that's good or not...

[lucid marsh]

That's kinda disturbing imo

[harsh echo]

ai having emotion is very disturbing

[median scaffold]

...after thinking about that-

[harsh echo]

see you get it

[oblique otter]

@whole dove specific item suggestions aren't allowed

sorry

[whole tundra]

It's also just, reallly unneccessary

seriously it doesn't even nearly take a second

[whole dove]

Damn

Honestly I stole it from reddit

Sorry MartyBallamore

[oblique otter]

also there's a mod that darkens your screen the closer you are to dying

[umbral gazelle]

how can you NOT notice your hp going down

[harsh echo]

Thanks for admitting it

[whole dove]

The amount of times I don't notice HP being low in any game is astonishing

[gilded citrus]

I think that’s just considered a skill issue at this point

[ashen warren]

You can use the mod HP Awareness if that's an issue you run into often. One of my favorites.

[whole dove]

It mostly happens in fighting games

[median scaffold]

Firstly, as Angel suggested said, use HP Awareness mod
Secondly, is it really needed in Terraria?

Personally, I found it more annoying when the game tells me "Hey, you have low HP. Goodbye!"

[whole dove]

I would like a small sound atleast

This is pointless

Imma just go back to my summoner thing

[median scaffold]

Sure, good luck

[harsh echo]

I think you guys are missing the fact that this is highly optional

[median scaffold]

...yeah, my bad, but at the same time IndieGameLover didn't make any "big" reasons to why it should be added, + SIS

[harsh echo]

Fair reasons

[olive saddle]

BASED

HP AWAREESS I AMZING

[harsh echo]

those who know

[drowsy plank]

@whole dove this is too specific, has no reasoning, and like Angel mentioned above, there is already a mod that does this with no item required anyway

[whole dove]

As I mentioned above

I just wanted to repost something from reddit

[drowsy plank]

that's great man but you didnt read the rules so im still going to ping you when i flag the post

[royal tapir]

@light birch Providence is no longer connected to the Sun in lore
In fact, a solid idea has been suggested in dev for changing her enrage condition
The Empress of Light part is fine enough, so if you remove the parts about Provi it'll be okay

[novel belfry]

okay phew

ive been wondering why providence just starts doing frost debuffs in nighttime and also is stronger (despite having the auric/godly soul of fire)

[boreal lichen]

Her domain hasn't been confirmed yet

But yeah getting buffed at night is not something she should do

[novel belfry]

The entry for Providence, the Profaned Goddess: "In a time lost to memory, there were four visionaries. With righteous fury, they slew a dragon, and their leader gorged Herself upon its auric soul of Flame. "The world is without guidance, and its people are filled with darkness." She said. There was silence, until Providence spoke once more. "Let us go forth, and light the world anew." And it was so."

that said i dont fully understand domains so ya

[frail mantle]

that's the soul she absorbed, not her domain

the usually aren't the same

[novel belfry]

gotcha

but either way i doubt the domain involves moonlight and voidfrost (the current name for an upcoming cold debuff to replace nightwither post-ml)

[drowsy plank]

they should not remove night provi but it could probably get moved to a different item or something

not to try and resurrect future bosses or something but a spawn item like that couldn't hurt so profaned moonlight dye can still be obtainable and such

[prisma sedge]

I do wonder, what was the problem with future bosses, in particular?

[errant wren]

i think it was probably the fact that they were unoriginal

not that i would know

i think i began playing cal after their removal

[drowsy plank]

i mean yeah pretty much

the problem was they fucking sucked and added nothing

and their permanent stat upgrades had to be pitiful to not break the game in half

so they were effectively meaningless

[prisma sedge]

Ahhh, damn
I think it'd be kind of cool to evolve their concepts into something a bit more unique, I feel like HotOG's Goozma is a good example of what a future boss could be like, but I can understand that!

[drowsy plank]

that's just a new boss but with worse visuals at that point

that's how storm weaver and aquatic scourge came about anyway

and calamity isnt adding any more bosses

[prisma sedge]

Of course, I know that, I just meant that having it be an expansion of a boss instead of...basically being a reskin and a harder difficulty, does sound fun! Even if it'd probably have to be restricted to add-on territory

[drowsy plank]

p much

[errant wren]

welcome back malice

[idle dagger]

Rebecca has mentioned her idea for this in lore discussion (which is probably what CIT is talking about)

Around here is where this happened

Basically night Provi would not be night related, but instead you giving her back the profaned core you took from the guardians, willingly giving her back full power

[sharp helm]

Give Provi her power back just so you can kill her to make a point

[errant wren]

wasn't there a sugg a while ago that wanted abyss building to be viable?

what was the verdict on that?

[crude geode]

Never got to dev

[grim tusk]

Is this SIS season?

[golden sonnet]

Item itself is fine, but the fact it's a recipe and they specify what the recipe is makes it SiS yeah

[copper barn]

Got it, thanks

[misty lichen]

sissy season

[drowsy plank]

look here; just replace your suggestion with this. you're still being too specfic, so i just wrote something for you. post this and you'll be fine

As Terraria is a sandbox game, it's only natural that many players wish they could build in the Abyss; perhaps even put their base there. Sadly, due to the nature of the area, unless the player wishes to constantly be drowning or dying, this is not possible.

However, perhaps an item could be added that, after completing a certain task, could be obtained by the player that allows them to build and dry out areas of the Abyss without the severe damage penalties that usually entails. This could be once the Abyss is no longer as relevant, such as after beating Polterghast or perhaps killing the Primordial Wyrm, or it could be highly restrictive in its use or range if placeable. There are, in fact, a few add-ons that add items like this, but requiring the player to download an add-on just to be able to build in a biome feels a bit excessive, as this is very much a problem base Calamity could easily tackle.```

oh you changed it again

i mean

that does technically work

also it's pylon not pilon

[copper barn]

Huge thanks, and sorry to bother

[drowsy plank]

ur fine

this is better than 90% of suggestions that break the rules

[light birch]

Cool

[olive saddle]

i do actually kind of like the idea of an item like the one in calval

i doubt thatll get straight ported to calamity but some kind of way to build in the abyss without godmode would be nice

[grave zinc]

@lapis warren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Skeletron's straight-directional skulls look like bones]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@lucid marsh - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make plague enemies have reduced spawns after PBG is defeated]

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@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add Cryonic Ore to the Ore Shimmer Chain]

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@idle dagger - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add Magiluminescence into Statis' Ninja Belt]

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[lucid marsh]

nice

[prisma sedge]

Honestly, all of those seem like good picks

[drowsy plank]

cool

[idle dagger]

First time a suggestion of mine has made it

Awesome

[idle dagger]

There's a suggestion I want to make about Vampiric Talisman being added into Nanotech over rogue emblem
The last time I've seen this idea sent was 2 years ago, and wasn't sent to the devs

Before I make it, is there a reason it isn't?

Like maybe lifesteal being too powerful?

[median scaffold]

Doesn't Nanotech already have lifesteal in the form of Electrician's Glove?

[sand marlin]

Yes

[median scaffold]

Althrough that's stealth strikes only, so Vampric Talisman will actually do something...

[median scaffold]

I think it is somewhat rendant and, iirc, other Elemental class accessories use a class emblem / its equivalent in some form or shape

[sand marlin]

Nanotech is a bit of a mess already anyway

[median scaffold]

Nanotech's code is so funny

[frail fox]

Worst accessory ever

[crude geode]

Nah

That honor belongs to ESA

[median scaffold]

ESA?

[idle dagger]

rendant?

[median scaffold]

Redundant*, my bad here

[idle dagger]

all good

[frail fox]

At least that’s just random/boring stat sticks and not 50 different rogue bullshit effects into one accessory

[median scaffold]

Actually, I think Elemental Gauntlet is the only exception to this rule, but gloves are the "main" melee accessory-line in the entire game

[idle dagger]

I think my problem is that all the other classes use their class accessories in intermediate upgrades, and those intermediate upgrades get upgraded further into the final 'endgame' class accessory for each class

...except rogue, who just uses rogue emblem instead?

[median scaffold]

[idle dagger]

I can get the lifesteal overlap though

That is fair

holy spelling error galore

[median scaffold]

I think that'll require to make Electrician's Glove into 2 separate effects (stealth strikes' AP, etc. and stealth strikes' lifesteal), which is not a bad thing, but at this point... why?

[crude geode]

That’s every rogue accessory wdym

/hj

[median scaffold]

You're not particularly wrong, tho

[crude geode]

Empyrean when it

[median scaffold]

Will get a rework, luckily

[frail fox]

True but if others are 10 effects this is 50 and it combines the most random unholy things that should never exist and a pre-boss accessory too because?

[median scaffold]

...or a change to the set bonus, at least

[crude geode]

So it represents a capstone accessory to rogue as it stands

Messy and needing 500 reworks

[idle dagger]

If it's just a little bit of overlap with healing I might still suggest it anyway

Deadshot and Quiver have ammo reduction overlap (just arrows but still) and since the healing occurs at different times I'm sure it is fine

[median scaffold]

Because not enough rogue accessories (that thing from Signus, smh)

[frail fox]

Missing blunder booster (already endgame viable but why not)

[sand marlin]

Spectral Veil

[crude geode]

Do you think Shade stays in dev because he, too, fears what he’s created here in Calamity

[frail fox]

Shade vs the unstoppable force of whatever 2019 rogue was doing

[median scaffold]

The thing is, both Deadshot Brooch and Magic Quiver don't have ammo reduction effects as their "in-build" function, so they don't overlap
In fact, those 2 functions (deadshotBrooch / magicQuiver) just increase ranged projectiles / arrows velocity

[idle dagger]

So how does the ammo reduction work for elemental quiver..?

[sand marlin]

Generic unconditional stats do not become bools yeah

[idle dagger]

I do apologize as I have no idea how the coding works lmao

[sand marlin]

Bools are basically just a switch

[median scaffold]

Ye

[sand marlin]

Since the ammo cost reduction is a generic stat, it isn't included in the main bool but like the above where it's separated from the effects

Bools are used for more complex effects

[median scaffold]

Nucleogenesis' whole accessory line is just a boolean fiesta

[idle dagger]

So basically, the healing overlaps in a way that like, messes the code up?

Or is it literally just that both healings wouldn't occur and it would just pick one

[median scaffold]

...hm

[sand marlin]

Glove healing and vampiric talisman lifesteal are actually not related at all

Well besides using lifesteal cooldown

The lifesteal might stack when it can

+2 from glove and whatever lifesteal from talisman at the same time, inducing more lifesteal cooldown

The overlap is rather that "we already have healing from this why add more of the same thing"

And Rogue is already incredibly tanky lategame so more lifesteal would be a bit bonkers

[idle dagger]

This is the actual part that I am most concerned with

if more lifesteal is considered too strong and affected balance too much I will back down without hesitation

[sand marlin]

If you want an ideal route just suggest it as a placebo just to fill in the consistency

Cal does that pretty often, nothing wrong with it and it tricks you into thinking it's related to the current lifesteal too anyway

[idle dagger]

That's more or less my concern with it yes, the consistency

actually 'more or less' is jargon that is my concern with it

[sand marlin]

If you make that clear then it's fine

[idle dagger]

Alright, thanks

[frail mantle]

I’d wager it’s pretty likely that they add a vanity version of the old auric set

[median scaffold]

That falls under the "do not suggest anything regarding upcoming content" category, doesn't it?

And, frankly, I would like to see some of the other old sets come back (namely Victide armor)

[hollow shell]

@rain obsidian Do not post suggestions about upcoming content / stuff that's not in the game yet

[rain obsidian]

Understood. Sorry, my bad

[hollow shell]

It's aight

We do have Ancient God Slayer vanity already
and one for wulfrum too I believe

so it's possible this will indeed happen, if there is demand for it

[median scaffold]

There's only Abandoned Wulfrum Helmet, which is the bastion transformation thing, not old Wulfrum armor
...but I would like to suggest something regarding this

[harsh echo]

no shade to the new spriter but ancient auric is a must 🙏

[median scaffold]

I like bulky melee armor, but damn, we need Ancient Auric

[hollow idol]

ancient auric will happen when the resprites come dw

[harsh echo]

🎉

[ashen warren]

@valid wave
hello, ion know if this sounds weird ?
#suggestions-discussion message
are you still looking to work on this?

[median scaffold]

Wdym? Donor items?

[drowsy plank]

hol up

is this a bot

[drowsy plank]

are you real bc this screams commission scam bot to me

[sand marlin]

Joined a week ago
First message here

[drowsy plank]

ill probably modmail them when im out of bed

[sand marlin]

Wait no I'm stupid

Joined a month ago, created account the week before that

[spice stream]

fascinating

[sand marlin]

I do not have reading comprehension what do you mean

[gaunt needle]

Damn the scam bots are coming for donor item commissions

[grim tusk]

They prob saw a certain something offering Patron items and raking in 1.5k USD

People are starved for em man

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/853893767349927967.gif?v=1&size=64&quality=lossless

[sand marlin]

Wait oh shit you might actually be right

[gaunt needle]

Why would they ping that person though?

[sand marlin]

They are beyond reason don't ask them

[grim tusk]

Money

They really want/need money

I remember one time in another server there was a guy dming EVERYONE for commissions

And posted fucking AI art

And their Twitter page in their about me wasnt theirs

They were banned

[drowsy plank]

shocked, frankly

but this really does line up more with some bot behavior ive seen

so probing for that right now

they will probably be banned

[idle dagger]

Considering the message they replied to had the word commission it likely scanned the server for that word and replied to it

Surely this cannot be the only instance of the word commission though…

[valid wave]

Because I asked about it like 8 months ago lmao

I just got pinged today randomly and see this message from what I presume to be a bot. I was told by mods that they no longer do commissions, so I just moved on.

[median scaffold]

@sleek cedar
Sorry, but you have no reasons besides "it is cool" and you need to have a title for the suggestion
Please, read the rules (those are stored in Google document in the pinned message)

[grim tusk]

“It would be cool”

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[sleek cedar]

Yeah fair enough

[median scaffold]

But, tbh, another rocket type would be really cool
...as cool as nonexistent god slayer dynamite

[sleek cedar]

Maybe cosmology could be combined with Mini-nukes like shroomite is combined with rockets?

[median scaffold]

Better to ask what its purpose would be, if you want to make a suggestion on it

[sleek cedar]

Hm ok. Especially since stuff like the chicken cannon already uses unique ammo

It probably wouldn’t apply to that many weapons past like the snowman cannon which wouldn’t make any sense

[drowsy plank]

rockets are also the most painful ammo type to add new versions of

since you have to make new projectiles for almost every ranged weapon that uses them

[median scaffold]

Wait, what

[drowsy plank]

how do you think vanilla does it?

go look at snowman cannon

[median scaffold]

The same way convertables work?

A projectile, the stats of which the game gets from another projectile...?

[drowsy plank]

and cluster rockets...?

[median scaffold]

I forgot if they're convertable or not

[gaunt needle]

just make a new weapon type that uses new "big rockets"

surely that would be easier

[spice stream]

true!

[drowsy plank]

behold.... red code

[misty lichen]

i don’t think this is red code but just they wanted to do this

[median scaffold]

Surely, only 7 new projectiles wouldn't hurt anyone, right?

[spice stream]

true!

[median scaffold]

But... yeah, that's just "the fuck" moment

[spice stream]

we love red

[harsh echo]

wait it changes the proj sprites?? nevern oticed

[hollow shell]

Oh yeah this is absolutely a bot message
Seen em before

It scanned this server's messages and detected the pattern "does ___ do comissions for ___?" in that one,
and dollar signs cartoonishly appeared in its virtual eyeballs

[lucid marsh]

Yeah those happen all the time, it sucks

...why aren't they banned yet

Rover can't you do that?

[hollow shell]

We mailed them and we're giving them 24 hours to respond, and if they don't we'll ban.
It's extremely likely to be a bot/scam, but I spose they didn't outright say "steam $50 [link]" or "DM me to earn cash fast with crypto" so we're giving them that chance

[olive saddle]

I feel like if someone wanted an art comm then they'd... go to the art server

[north oracle]

they might just be extremely clueless, and it's better to give them the benefit of the doubt at this point

[errant wren]

what's that one quote? uhh
"there is a considerable overlap between the smartest of bears and the dumbest of tourists"

this is very late

[novel belfry]

thats a hilarious statement

(I remembered hearing this being posted as a response to that Tom Scott video on bear-resistant stuff)

[echo leaf]

That sounds right

It's an unfortunately true and really funny statement

[lucid marsh]

I know the exact word pattern in that message as something that one specific scam network uses, I can guarantee it is that same one

[grim tusk]

@outer sandal format suggestion properly (also removing projectiles is not what you want as that would make it just a bland sword)

Do something lik

Reduce or visually change orderbringer
[A paragraph goes here]

[outer sandal]

basically the same thing as irridescent excalibur but weaker and its made by the same weapon so that wouldn't even be far fetched

[whole tundra]

I have no performance problems with orderbringer
You may want to know about the elephant in the room when it comes to dust spam

[hollow shell]

Why didn't you suggest to change the dust into static sprites?
It's not the fault of the projs themselves that they cause lag, it's the excessive dust.

[outer sandal]

i dont know how this stuff works all that i know is that the weapon makes my game unplayable

[hollow shell]

Hm

[grim tusk]

I already told em to use a mod that removes/reduces the dust in the meantime

[whole tundra]

Doesn't Nycro's have a dust limit in it's configs

[outer sandal]

yeah but it causes this weird thing where nothing spawns so i dont use it

[hollow shell]

((Also that suggestion actually is formatted properly.))

[whole tundra]

There's also Chicken Cannon
Can we turn Chicken Cannon into a broadsword, please?

[hollow shell]

guh

[crude geode]

Turn it into a summon weapon that fires chickens

[outer sandal]

I think your missing what the word cannon means..

[hollow shell]

It's better than it was in the past at least

[whole tundra]

True

[harsh echo]

what was it previously?

[whole tundra]

a little dust spam on this weapon I'm afraid

[hollow shell]

It spawned so much dust that if you fired it continuously the lighting engine would break.

[outer sandal]

that sounds like a fun thing to mess around with

[whole tundra]

It still spawns like 2000 dust per projectile. When is it getting a proper, updated visual effect

[hollow shell]

It was pretty funny
if you could handle the 1 FPS

[hollow shell]

_ _ ¯_(ツ)_/¯

It's hard to sprite such a large explosion, and have it look good in practice too

[whole tundra]

Oh wait

[errant wren]

comedic chicken-shaped explosion, clearly

[hollow shell]

There's probably a solution in the form of Primitives, which are like dust but with significantly less overhead and thus much less laggy

[whole tundra]

Imagine chicken cannon turns into a chicken firing eggs in GFB

[hollow shell]

aight anyway yeah this Orderbringer suggestion should be changed to be something along the lines of replacing the dust with a different visual effect

Removing the projectiles entirely is way too extreme,
throwing the baby out with the bathwater, as it were.

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Move the Mecha Mayhem aspect of Death-Master Skeletron Prime to the last Mech in Progression Instead]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[royal tapir]

Orderbringer already got reworked anyways

[hollow shell]

Oh, already, like in the test build?

[whole tundra]

Which should also affect the pre-upgrades aswell

[royal tapir]

Yes

[hollow shell]

ok sweet

[ashen warren]

Both Greatsword of Judgement and Orderbringer have both been reworked.

[royal tapir]

Neither rely on dust

[whole tundra]

I am curious as to why this was denied

[dense locust]

this was still in dev voting till now?

[violet zephyr]

Second to last one.

[hollow shell]

Sugg irrelevant then, good

[whole tundra]

Ok I see

[golden sonnet]

it was tied, which caused the bot to never post results

[grim tusk]

Certain someone (altho it was tied for months)

[violet zephyr]

Also, are you sure you haven't left the config that remove's natural entity spawning on?

[whole tundra]

I am sending death master sprime as first mech to your house

[outer sandal]

so its just not actually in the mod yet?

[dense locust]

tbf after the nerfs I doubt first mech prime would be that bad

[whole tundra]

Still pretty weird as it incentivises fighting SPrime last despite that not fitting with the HM rework and overall less linear feel to the mod

[drowsy plank]

yes

[outer sandal]

ok

[frail fox]

Biggest mistake is trying to use logic

[drowsy plank]

if orderbringer is already reworked, can i just delete this suggestion then? i dont know why someone removed the reaction considering this

[royal tapir]

Yes

[novel belfry]

aww man

[frail fox]

Damn no demonite/crimtane

[grim tusk]

wrong house

Funny idea for copper weapon:

https://tenor.com/view/my-child-will-gif-25175630

[frail fox]

Overall though good suggestion, would really help it feel more like a much more complete class too

[grim tusk]

Does she know?

[frail fox]

If they’re already known to be planned then good

[grim tusk]

Evil ore knife is being considered…

[frail fox]

Oh right the shortswords since those already exist

[misty lichen]

why they all gotta be knives now

thats 3 for 3 on preboss knives

[ripe owl]

Makes me think of that too little too much...

[misty lichen]

the entire point of adding more weapons is to introduce more variable gameplay

[ripe owl]

Unfortunate!

[misty lichen]

yet now theres crystalline (knife) gilded dagger (knife) redacted (knife) and now this

[ripe owl]

Wym redacted, Spore Knife is public

Unless there's something else

[misty lichen]

idk what is and isnt public

but yes tha

t

[ripe owl]

You should check the spoiler talk from time to time

[frail fox]

No pre-boss javelin…

[ripe owl]

Would be a good idea for a silver/tungsten weapon

If this ever gets accepted, that is

[frail fox]

Copper and tin spiky balls (balls are making a comeback)

[ripe owl]

Balls

[misty lichen]

copper bombs are a real thing right

[crude geode]

Balls

[ripe owl]

Cooper bombs

[frail fox]

Just throw shards of metal at the enemy, about as much damage as tier 1 ores deserve

[crude geode]

I love that dev

[ripe owl]

Who?

[crude geode]

[royal tapir]

Copper Wire Ball is real

[ripe owl]

(also was I seeing things or your nick did turn into "Cursed Balls" or smth)

[ripe owl]

CongratsIsBased

[royal tapir]

Wait I meant it's a real idea, not that it's in-game

[ripe owl]

Yeah so it HAS a chance to get in the mod

[crude geode]

You were absolutely seeing things

I don’t like ever change my nick in any server lmao

[ripe owl]

I see

[frail fox]

Need a rogue counterpart to Thunder Zapper/Storm Spear so bad

[ripe owl]

True...

We need a weapon that's basically Copper Enchantment

[prisma sedge]

Never have I agreed more with a suggestion

...okay, that's a lie, but that's a sentiment I've had ever since I saw a map of it for the first time!

[errant wren]

i think it used to?? then again that was when it also cut into the dungeon

[crude geode]

Yep

[grizzled dome]

I honestly like the Abyss being a hard-line cut into the world? Yes, it feels unnatural and out-of-place, but at the same time... it is. Someone chucked a rock from space and it left an abrupt crater cut into the world. Maybe make it slightly more gradiant (I don't know enough about geology to explain how it should best work) but it being intrusive works.

[light birch]

It does not work like that, I can say that much

The astral infection I think does a better job at actually looking like something dropped from space

One impact point and the rest goes outwards from there

[boreal lichen]

I don't think the abyss was formed from a meteor

[light birch]

Yeah that was another thing, I just thought I didn't know the lore enough

[boreal lichen]

I don't think it's creation was ever stated, but it probably is naturally occurring iirc

[light birch]

Nothing about it really implies an impact like that

Way too vertical for that

[errant wren]

i think the only lore is that it somehow just stayed like that for some reason

[light birch]

Also that one god

[errant wren]

not that i remember much

[light birch]

Who got dropped into it or something

[errant wren]

silva i think?

[grizzled dome]

Its sheer verticality, plus what's found at the bottom, always made me think it was something being thrown downwards and sort of punched into the earth.

[boreal lichen]

Silva got sealed away there twice

[prisma sedge]

Silva just keeps the plantlife blooming, I think

Or life in general, because Jared

[errant wren]

i think they just put the terminus there because they knew nobody would be that stupid

it's a very hard "i think" though

i don't really remember the lore

[prisma sedge]

I got it right after beating Calamitas Clone

[boreal lichen]

Xeroc put it there because he didn't want anyone else to use it for a currently unknown reason

[light birch]

The thing you find at the bottom was dumped there LONG after it already existed. And usually, if you look at actual craters from meteor impacts, they are usually a lot more horizontal than vertical. The force doesn't just continue burrying downwards, it spreads outwards until its too weak to continue breaking through the ground

[boreal lichen]

That too

[errant wren]

let's just say

life uh, finds a way?

[grizzled dome]

Ah. Basically we both agreed that it looked unnatural, but I assumed that unnatural look was intentional.

[prisma sedge]

Good point though, it'd either need a narrow enouogh shape on the front to split the ground around it, or be so dense that it'd just punch a hole through the ground anyways, like a black hole

[light birch]

Still, even then, it would be more like a funnel

[boreal lichen]

Byeah for the suggestion, I don't think there are any plans for abyss generation changes other than maybe more unique island shapes, but that's about it

[light birch]

Alright, I will wait for a decision then

[errant wren]

i mean, i think the sugg is valid, other than maybe future content

or maybe even reversion

[novel belfry]

(unironically i think Terminus needs to be not easily obtainable from a chest)

it implies Primordial Wyrm and Xeroc are not particularly bright if you can just sneak in and take the Terminus straight outta a chest

At least Xeroc had time.

PW just seems incredibly incompetent if it can just let someone steal the relic for themselves

[light birch]

Does primordial wyrm have ANY actual connection to it?

Isn't it just... another animal that lives there?

Why would it prevent you from taking it?

Genuinely, if I just don't know about that connection correct me

[novel belfry]

according to the Bestiary entry:

It held a deep hatred for any sign of usurped light, and would have attempted to strike down even the wielder of Primordial Light had they returned to reclaim their artifact. And yet, despite its immense power, it never would have stood a chance."

so two things:

• He hates Xeroc so much he won't let anyone touch the fucking thing
• Xeroc would probably still first try nohit PW thats how good he is

[prisma sedge]

Aww, I feel a bit bad for the guy

[novel belfry]

so i assumed he was (Potentially bequeathed upon him by Silva's remains, as apparently she was a big rival to Xeroc) just guarding the damn thing

[prisma sedge]

Jared deserves better

[novel belfry]

now that i read it, it doesn't seem that obvious

but for a while, i legit thought that the infernum incarnation of him locking the Terminus behind him was more accurate to the lore somehow

and honestly, I'd still like if that was the case

[light birch]

Well, I've got nothing then

But I do agree, something that protects it would be fun

[golden bane]

It’s not that unatural

Imo

It looks like a huge techtonic rift

Where like the I guess Terraria continental place moved away from whichever one is on the abyss side

Though that doesn’t explain the jagged line for blocks

True

[novel belfry]

While there are many sightless crevasses in the deep sea, this one is a geological marvel.
It is located unsettlingly close to the shoreline. Somehow, even eons of tectonics could not seal or crush it.

yeah it's bizarre

[golden bane]

I guess divine or smth influence reinforced the edges

Also it’s a known phenomenon that when worms (and also wyrms) burrow they reinforce the rock

So eons of eidolon wyrms burrowing could do that

Preventing it from collapsing

[hollow verge]

nannotech

i dont disagree w this sugg btw

but god it's just an accessory that needs redone on many levels

[misty lichen]

i think nanotech should be executed

[light birch]

You execute them but because it's nanotech it just reforms immediately

[frozen hornet]

Nanotech becomes draedon heart 2

[frail fox]

Rogue accessories vs 1000 degree knife

[frozen hornet]

Or 0.5 rather

[frail fox]

We need more defensive accessories, clearly lacking late game

[idle dagger]

I do agree that nanotech is wonky in general yeah lmao

[idle dagger]

true if pre dog!

not that true but sort of

[median scaffold]

We need more mobility accessories

[frail fox]

Need more

[royal tapir]

Add the ombgus accessory

[frail fox]

I’d do it

[royal tapir]

You would

[frail fox]

Increases all debuff effectiveness x5

[light birch]

On enemies, or...

[frail fox]

x10 on bosses

Debuffs also would the player or something idk

[light birch]

x20 on the player

[frail fox]

Deserved

[median scaffold]

Vulnerability Hex.....

[light birch]

Sucks to suck

[novel belfry]

Can vulnerability hex become a ichor-type debuff based on its name

[misty lichen]

oops all DoTs

[frail fox]

Debuff builds will return in 2026

[umbral gazelle]

2024 2025 2026 2027 2028 2029 DEBUFF BUILDS REVIVAL

[whole tundra]

Not going to make a whole post about it as it may already has been implemented
Calamity Mod and Calamity Mod Music's descriptions still lack any mention of VCMM inside the game. So I'd obviously suggest to mention it in their descriptions

[patent spade]

what is vcmm

[whole tundra]

Vanilla Calamity Mod Music

[light birch]

I'm still confused why the music is seemingly a separate mod

[whole tundra]

To not explode having to load both the main mod and music mods at once

[gritty plaza]

It's also to help with updates - the music is a very large file, larger than the mod itself iirc, so keeping them separate means you don't have to redownload all the music just for a hotfix

Same thing is done with Celeste mods

[light birch]

Really? Oh wow

[gritty plaza]

Yeah it's hard to compress music

Although I'n not sure how one would check the file size of a Terraria mod

[median scaffold]

Steam says the file size, iirc

[gritty plaza]

Right

[median scaffold]

Alternatively, check the file's size directly via the folder manager

[gritty plaza]

The mod is 257mb and the music is 631mb

Or nearly two and a half times bigger

damn

And VCMM is another 838mb

[light birch]

Oh wow

Danm

[harsh echo]

[ashen warren]

hello peeps

[median scaffold]

...hello

[harsh echo]

bye.

[median scaffold]

Okay, ye, that's a suspicious profile

[prisma sedge]

The main mod's only 257mb? That's almost more surprising than the music mod one!

[median scaffold]

Terraria itself is less than a GB in size, iirc

[gaunt needle]

i mean, calamity does have some gigantic sprites

[harsh echo]

all pixel art

[prisma sedge]

Yeah, I've heard that for the most part, size doesn't matter a lot when it comes to 2D assets, it's just the amount of updates between them

[hollow shell]

Seems like a solid suggestion, this.

(Granted I haven't had a chance to use Chalice in practice yet so I don't know what its effects currently look like / the current level of communication to the player)

(But it does seem like an effect that would benefit a lot from crystal clear communication, and a lack of that would make it very annoying)

[median scaffold]

There's an effect to the bleeding of the chalice, but it is rather unnoticeable, from what I remember

Probably a cooldown, similar to the dodge one, would be nice here

[errant wren]

chalice bleeding? i think it's like spewing blood and going faster depending on how fast the DoT is

[idle dagger]

I agree with this sugg

I have no idea how much damage I've actually taken when I am hit with the chalice and just opt to heal as soon as I'm hit

Maximizing it's output...for whatever I did get hit by

[median scaffold]

Yeah, but you have no idea how much damage you got hit for and you don't really know when the bleeding will stop

I also agree with the suggestion

[light birch]

Yeah, there's a visual effect around the character

But that doesn't tell you anything specific

Also you really have better things to focus on while in a boss fight

[median scaffold]

It tells that you're bleeding
That's it

[light birch]

It does vary depending on how much you have left

It's more intense if you take big damage instances

And lessens as it runs out

But that is... really barely noticeable when it actually matters

[errant wren]

the effect would be the least of your worries during a fight

but yeah, the visuals could be better

[light birch]

Having the health bar change colour is a really good way to show that, I am fully in support for that suggestion

Right now, all you can do is estimate vaguely based on how quickly your health depletes

[sand marlin]

#suggestions-posting message @sudden flicker there's a bit of misinfo here, health potions do not lose any healing when in use with Chalice. It's a bonus that the half of that healing also shaves as much bleeding.

Ah fuck I fell into the same reading comprehension trap nevermind

God damn.

Reading is hard

[sudden flicker]

Sorry. My wording isn’t great. It’s about the opportunity cost of not healing right away if you wait until you get hit.

[sand marlin]

Yeah no it's probably fine

Having like 10 words connected together and reading them all at once in the same context is hard and that's not limited to just your sentence, that's also what Chalice's tooltip and wiki description does which gives people a headache when trying to process it

[lucid marsh]

Hmm...

Idea

Overheal

[crude geode]

What

No

[sand marlin]

As much as I'd prefer to go a different direction than Stall for facetanking, I don't think Chalice is changing

[lucid marsh]

You can heal above your max HP but potion sickness deals DoT to the overhealed health

[sand marlin]

Too recent of a rework and I haven't seen negative impressions from any of the devs I talked to about it

But yeah visual cue good

Did you know that you can see the damage number that is inflicted as a bleed

Now we're just missing a bleed counter

[sudden flicker]

I think it’s balanced and I like the way it works, I just don’t like not being able to be sure if I’m healing at the right time.

[sand marlin]

It's rather underpowered and only carried by Charm of Myths for regular builds if I'm being honest

[sudden flicker]

It might be slightly underpowered, which is why I suggested the quality of life improvement to make getting max value out of the potions more reliable.

[harsh echo]

make hooks/add a hook to able to latch you onto the enemy
🧑‍🍳 or nah?

[ripe owl]

Kinda not, it's very not intuitive plus might lead to unwanted damage

Like imagine pulling yourself into Ravager

Gonna hurt like a bitch if you ask me

[harsh echo]

true

im too ultrakillpilled

[ripe owl]

Pirate Lord

[patent marsh]

Hook latching to enemy

[harsh echo]

balloons towers defensing?? of the 6th installment ???

[patent marsh]

I wish Yharon can be stunned if you hit him hard enough

[drowsy plank]

welcome back thorium mod-

[median scaffold]

Sounds neat, but why would you want to use it?

[harsh echo]

Close range weapons/tank/true melee
it might be good

[glass arch]

[umbral gazelle]

drag yourself in to get slapped in the face by boss

[drowsy plank]

tbf the contact damage changes makes it a bit more viable

[harsh echo]

yes

[median scaffold]

I always forget about this

[grave zinc]

@lapis warren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Skeletron's straight-directional skulls look like bones]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@lucid marsh - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make plague enemies have reduced spawns after PBG is defeated]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@lapis warren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Skeletron's straight-directional skulls look like bones]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@idle dagger - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add Magiluminescence into Statis' Ninja Belt]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[errant wren]

huh, neat

[drowsy plank]

yay

[median scaffold]

2 days.....

[naive patrol]

we need more whips

[median scaffold]

Planned

[drowsy plank]

whips will be added with the summoner rebalance

also it's funny bc to be honest summoner doesn't need any more whips right now

kalei is perfectly viable til scal

[median scaffold]

With the current balance, sure
But I'll protect the thought of summoner having more whips 'till my death

[naive patrol]

whats the summoner rebalance? is it a nerf

[drowsy plank]

it's the summoner rebalance

[naive patrol]

so a nerf

[drowsy plank]

are you stupid

[sleek turret]

general review at the summoner weapon design and combat to deal with balance issues

[drowsy plank]

if it was the summoner nerf it would be "the summoner nerf"

[naive patrol]

ok cog

[sleek turret]

cog just tell them in a delicate manner

[drowsy plank]

ok fair

but yeah it's just going to be a full reevaluation of the class since calamity wasn't designed with whips in mind

[tired haven]

Its "the summoner rebalance yet the nerfs will invoke negativity bias and outshine everything good done even if it was literally healthy for the game"

[drowsy plank]

bc calamity hates whips

or something

idk

lmao

[median scaffold]

Does CalTeam still hate whips and do them only because it is basically required at this point?

[distant gyro]

i love confirmation bias and other preconceived biases

[tired haven]

Well, at least in case of a lot of whips the only way is up right now

[drowsy plank]

im never going to get over "calamity hates whips" when fargo's has and continues to have harsher nerfs on whips than cal ever did

[median scaffold]

I think Fargo's doesn't have as big community as Calamity does

[north oracle]

Killing bosses in 30 seconds is healthy and good for game balance

[median scaffold]

- Said Slick Cane.

[north oracle]

TRUE

[sleek turret]

gives local iframes to the wrong minion

oops!

[tired haven]

Jester arrows could have eaten those iframes

[north oracle]

Give every minion global iframes

I guarantee that'll increase killtimes

[median scaffold]

Summoner in 1.2.....

[tired haven]

1.3*

[median scaffold]

Wait, it was present even in 1.3??

It is still kinda present with static I-frames in Vanilla, but that's besides the point

[tired haven]

1.4 was when minions stopped being largely global

[median scaffold]

[violet zephyr]

Pain... Need to start up TModLoader to see the changes... (Their Eternity Mode page is severely lacking. So is the rest of the wiki)

[drowsy plank]

rip

[median scaffold]

Why were global I-frames invented in the first place...

[tired haven]

That was the default since game release

[north oracle]

To balance summoner

Obviously

[median scaffold]

Basically, you can't whip stack

[tired haven]

Local was invented in 1.3 to tease summoner mains

[median scaffold]

Funnily enough, Violent still works on whips, because it is universal in EMode

[north oracle]

Then they added whips and RUINED summoner forever 😠

[median scaffold]

Clamity dvevs, pretyllll pleese, adm mire whpps tahd the gsmde

[drowsy plank]

wait violent becomes generic attack speed?

[violet zephyr]

Yes.

[drowsy plank]

insane

[median scaffold]

...is it?

[gray bone]

i think it gets nerfed though

to like
2%?

[median scaffold]

[grim tusk]

[golden sonnet]

[tired haven]

Usetime rounds down (and is independent of weapon's speed reforge since those already round) so 1 global speed increase is a 2 usetime rapid chain gun

[median scaffold]

Okay, that makes things funnier

Can Calamity do the same?

[grim tusk]

And I thought GoR making Flawless Hypothermia have like 2 or 3 usetime was busted

[median scaffold]

What is GoR in this context?

[grim tusk]

Glove of Recklessness

[median scaffold]

Oh, right

[tired haven]

Its the same mechanism so yeah

[violet zephyr]

Correct.

Each attack speed reforge only gives 0.5%, instead of 1%.

[gray bone]

getting a ping in this channel gives me so much irrational anxiety

[median scaffold]

Goose.

[echo kestrel]

just search for mentions: @gray bone

[gray bone]

[echo kestrel]

[harsh echo]

why

[misty lichen]

this is also fixed fargos side btw

[grave zinc]

@lapis warren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Skeletron's straight-directional skulls look like bones]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[royal tapir]

There

[tired haven]

Ah, nice

[gray bone]

i haven't a clue

[tired haven]

(Is it rounding up now and thus opaquely useless?)

[golden sonnet]

Yo, that looks sick

[gray bone]

bone shurikens

[misty lichen]

should be rounding up yeah

[median scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/tegu-pet-grab-silly-enjoyment-gif-27617448

Another CIT W

[harsh echo]

fire

[sand marlin]

We should nerf U-Turn to 60 BP

[echo leaf]

still amazed there was a skeletron suggestion that wasn't overtly complaining

bonus points it was a really good suggestion

[echo leaf]

I second this

[median scaffold]

What does it mean...

[echo leaf]

U-Turn, the attack in Pokemon

It's a Bug-type attack with 70 base power, 100% accuracy, and switches out the user after it deals damage

Incredibly busted

The one and only good bug move in the game

[echo leaf]

maybe not incredibly busted but it's super good

[misty lichen]

i gettttt itttt becauseeeee the moveee isss calledddd u-turnnnn andd mentioninggg it wassss a u-turnnnnn innnnn theeee conversationnnnnnnnnnmnmnm

[median scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-cute-animal-fidget-spinner-gif-17483554

[median scaffold]

Get lihard spinned'

[echo leaf]

i'm not smart enough for this 'humor' thing

[sleek turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/886673434074054719/1302273371228082307/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[misty lichen]

[sand marlin]

That really flew over your head huh

Nobody remembers the goat

[median scaffold]

Thanks

[sand marlin]

Scizor speechbubble

[echo leaf]

real

[sharp helm]

Goes well with the Bone Glove drop

[gilded citrus]

lol

[gray bone]

[median scaffold]

@gilded citrus
I needed to do that.

[gilded citrus]

Ok

[harsh echo]

Wgar?

[drowsy plank]

not true; megahorn and quiver dance are pretty good

[echo leaf]

okay quiver dance is an exception, it's a status move

but it's mega busted, yeah

[hollow shell]

Nice! Thank you CIT

[royal tapir]

That's because it is the Bone Glove projectile texture

[harsh echo]

[novel belfry]

i still wish they werent changed to skulls

they used to be purple magic bolts that the Giant Cursed Skulls would fire

i have no idea why they got changed to skulls but i dont like that happened

at least this is better tho

[frail fox]

Changed to skulls because before they were just dust

And so they’d disappear if dust was off/whatever else maybe low settings

[novel belfry]

either way thoo

it looked a lot better than skulls

[royal tapir]

Also because 2.0.4 changes made Skeletron use the Giant Cursed Skull bolt in another attack

[novel belfry]

where

[royal tapir]

During the spin attack at lower health

[novel belfry]

hang on i forgot the fight

lucky thing polaritz is a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyWf6QbUCc

[frail fox]

Idk what’s going on a lower hp either it’s fine

[novel belfry]

there is so much spread shots holy shit

yeah i can kinda see why you'd need to differentiate some projectiles's appearences god

[frail fox]

Oh it’s death master yeah I see

Horror

[novel belfry]

okay also they're not purple at all, they just look plain white

i think thats why i never realized they were a thing

they looked like other projectiles

[sharp helm]

I'm aware lmao, that's why I said it

[novel belfry]

now can i start firing spread shots of crossbones when i use the bone glove

[harsh echo]

[idle dagger]

Yippee!!

[novel belfry]

oh i didnt notice

people might actually use statis belts

[harsh echo]

Fire

[steep patrol]

High jump speed and acceleration? That's gonna replace boots for sure

[dense locust]

ninja belt is pml as is

• magi is exclusively grounded acceleration

[golden sonnet]

Magic is ground only yeah

It does mean belts are a really good combo with wings though

Tracers made even more irrelevant

[harsh echo]

that's what i like to see

[olive saddle]

Wait what?? I need more context

[olive saddle]

Rot, respectfully

I love old 1.3 jesters arrows

[misty lichen]

it’s only no whip stacking or benefit from melee speed

it’s extremely tame

[olive saddle]

Oh damn

[misty lichen]

if ur a normal person that uses one weapon nothing changes

instead of collecting every whip for more and more damage

and there’s still strategies to minmax dmg with multiple whips and even better synergies with items that buff whips

[grim tusk]

It used to have far harsher nerfs to be fair

Like the whips’ dmg cut by 1/3

[lucid marsh]

whips good

whip stacking lame

[echo leaf]

👍

[light prism]

👍

[novel belfry]

you just know that if this gets implemented people are going to mistake this for ND

[light prism]

dumb

[novel belfry]

(also i instantly think of the calamity bell when I picture this thing in my mind)

(probably because of the boss rush music videos)

[light prism]

people who think nameles deity as base cal is dum

[novel belfry]

yeah obviously

[hard minnow]

just have a message in chat saying “this is not nameless deity” 👍

[light birch]

Write his name into the sky

Can't be nameless if you name him

[umbral gazelle]

hello im not nameless deity i just wanna watch you goodbye

[light birch]

Easy

[hard minnow]

so true

[harsh echo]

His name is nameless deity duh

[light birch]

Nameless J. Deity

His middle name is Jared

[hard minnow]

no wonder jared the wyrm hates him

he took his name

[light birch]

So rude

[umbral gazelle]

i remember someone suggested to make dog eat providence during dying animation and it got added to infernum instead of calamity

[harsh echo]

this game is in shambles.

[light birch]

Only way to fix it is to give the Devourer of Cods a 0.1% chance to fish up 10 DoGs

[golden sonnet]

this sounds awful visually ngl

especially as boss rush is already awful for photosensitivity

[crude geode]

Agree

[idle dagger]

I can’t imagine a little flash of xeroc’s sigil in the sky would be as photosensitive as some of the bosses and weapons in the game

[prisma sedge]

Judging by how it's written, I don't think the entire screen would flash in this case, just a little sigil in the sky

[idle dagger]

Yeah^ that’s what I assumed

[light birch]

Nah, fully rave or nothing at all

CULL THE WEAK

For legal reasons this is a joke

[hard minnow]

i was thinking the exact same size as in boss rush but ig a smaller one is better for photosensitivity

[lucid marsh]

I don't think it would make sense for Xeroc's sigil to flash, even faintly, whenever he's watching. He's remained completely unknown to anyone for a thousand years.

[novel belfry]

i dunno man we're pretty good

everyone else must have skill issue

[umbral gazelle]

plot twist: he actually watch you by sticking a very small camera over your head while you are unaware

[frozen hornet]

He doesn't need to show his eye to see things

[light birch]

He's been the guide all along

Just watching from where nobody suspects him

[median scaffold]

@hard minnow
I don't recommend you referencing other suggestions

[novel belfry]

nah he's that fucking angler dude
how does that kid survive getting mauled to death

[lucid marsh]

I don't think it would make sense for Xeroc's sigil to flash, even faintly, whenever he's watching. He's remained completely unknown to anyone for a thousand years.

[novel belfry]

why does it say "he left"

[lucid marsh]

Red doesn't want kids dying in the game

Same for the princess

[novel belfry]

mods?

[lucid marsh]

?

[hard minnow]

kids you mean?

[median scaffold]

Mobs?

[lucid marsh]

Children "leave" instead of dying because terraria isn't supposed to have kids dying

Oh

Oh autocorrect

[median scaffold]

[hard minnow]

mb

[novel belfry]

simple. he's not a kid, he's just Xeroc engaging in his favorite pastime

which is fishing for soem reason

[light birch]

Feeding Trashers?

Ah, fishing

Right

[violet zephyr]

was zeratros' favourite. of course they would indulge in their best friend's activity after he passed.

[hard minnow]

i was thinking he willingly did that to like show his approval kinda

[median scaffold]

What's the lore behind current Xeroc...?

[glass arch]

if it was died terrarias rating would have to be upped

[olive saddle]

i think it was first god and the wielder of the primoridal light
i think

[glass arch]

rn its teen i think

if princess and anglers messages had them die instead of leave it would be upped to mature

[olive saddle]

it surprises me that terraria has a teen rating when the fucking gore of an eldritch eyeball splatters on the floor but thats probably just me

[median scaffold]

Yeah

Calamity is something closer to 16+, tbh

Especially with Cirrus being a thing

[glass arch]

at least in america idk about other countrys rating systems

[violet zephyr]

thats because its considered fantasy or something

[violet zephyr]

you say this but terraria has at least the same as or more stuff like that

[glass arch]

it counts as cartoon violence i think

not positive

[violet zephyr]

fuck they even reference that bath water

[frozen hornet]

Bath water is almost as bad as cirrus

[median scaffold]

I can't really argue with that, lu

[frozen hornet]

Cirrus is worse though

[median scaffold]

And it is 13+ in my part of Europe...

[hard minnow]

also the nurse has interesting dialogue when it rains

[olive saddle]

what

[glass arch]

ok so this is what google play says

[novel belfry]

okay i have to clarify that i am literally joking here

i know why angler cant die

[olive saddle]

oh. i see

[violet zephyr]

oh my

[hard minnow]

i saw a ton more while looking for this nvm

there’s a lot…

def mildly suggestive

[novel belfry]

she should say "I don't give happy endings" exclusively on GFB for this reason

[median scaffold]

GFB suggestions.....

[ripe owl]

GFB suggestion detected. An army force unit has dispatched to your current location

[light birch]

DRONE STRIKE ENGAGED!

[novel belfry]

Unfortunately for you, GFB Supernova.

we both are going down bubs

[hollow verge]

first guy to eat an auric soul and become a god

[light birch]

But that brings up an important question

How do auric souls taste?

[frozen hornet]

Spicy

[light birch]

Good spicy or bad spicy?

[frozen hornet]

Idk

[light birch]

Hm

Where can I find a dragon to eat? It's for science!

[gray bone]

all roads lead to calamity taste discussions...

[median scaffold]

Lead? I ate lead once. It was tasty

[gray bone]

[lucid marsh]

I wonder if we could get SiIvagunner's calamity rips in GFB

[boreal shale]

why are GFB suggestions not allowed?

[harsh echo]

like you

[lucid marsh]

?

[nimble totem]

Have you checked Yharon?

[median scaffold]

They're considered joke suggestions, from what I've seen
...and Ozzatron doesn't want to add more GFB related stuff

[light parrot]

whats gfb stands for?

[median scaffold]

Get Fixed Boi
Pretty much the hardest secret seed from Vanilla Terraria, which became a pale of jokes in Calamity

[glass arch]

they arent disallowed iirc
its just really really really hard to have good reasoning for a getfixedboi sugg

[boreal shale]

yes and thats the thing

[median scaffold]

Oh, I'm wrong then

[boreal shale]

there can just be added more goofy things

that dont need to be balanced

[median scaffold]

"That would be cool" is not a good reasoning

[glass arch]

ultimately 90% of the reasoning gfb suggs have is it would be cool

which as shuki said

isnt good reasoning

and also is explicitly disallowed in the rules

[median scaffold]

Raesh made an actual good GFB suggestion which is weirdly cool by itself

And that's the only "incident" from what I remember

[glass arch]

which one was raeshs

[median scaffold]

Something related to Astral Grass, iirc

#suggestions-voting message
This one

[glass arch]

bc i remember a sugg to flip the abyss in gfb and dontdigup

[median scaffold]

...oh, and Cog made a suggestion about Night's Ray being post-DF in Don't Dig Up / GFB

[boreal shale]

what is DF

[median scaffold]

Duke Fishron

[boreal shale]

why is that not a "would be cool" suggestion?

isnt night's ray a pre hardmode weapon?

like mage night's edge

[median scaffold]

Wdym?

Night's Edge is a pre-hardmode mage weapon and locking it behind a mid HM boss is not a good design nor it is intentional, considering that the suggestion made it to the game

[boreal shale]

yes?

i dont understand

so it was a suggestion to remove that?

if not has it bee naccepted?

[gaunt needle]

It was a suggestion to fix the oversight (pre HM balanced weapon locked behind Duke fishron) by either moving it back to pre HM or buffing it to DF level

#suggestions-voting message

[lucid marsh]

I do wish "it would be cool" was valid reasoning, as long as it's not bad in some other way, like being out of place

[boreal shale]

so true

there are some features that would jsut be nice to have

[golden sonnet]

If they would be nice to have then there is other reasoning for them

[harsh echo]

"nice to have" is an ALMOST reason it just has to be elaborated

[drowsy plank]

"it would be cool" reasoning is stupid and lazy

if a suggestion is good then you can actually justify it with more than that

i dont think a "it would be cool" suggestion has ever seemed like a good idea to me

[sand marlin]

It would be cool if calamity mod made you a superhuman irl

[drowsy plank]

99% of the time they're paired with another violation that's usually an SIS, adding a new boss, or a massive mechanical overhaul that could never realistically be added

[sleek turret]

its ez just pair it with valid reason and you change "it'd be cool" with "if this suggestion is addressed and put into the game it will greatly enhance the [gameplay aspect] of the mod"

[drowsy plank]

TRUE

[distant gyro]

the latter is like

the ai generated version of it'd be cool

[sleek turret]

its just some paraphrasing effort

especially with suggestions you'd want to persuade people into thinking the sugg provides good changes

[harsh echo]

[lucid marsh]

Alright. How do you justify suggestions for aesthetic improvements without "it would be cool"

[harsh echo]

Address why the theming fits more

[spice stream]

i’ve seen people justify it with lore reasons

[lucid marsh]

Ugh... Those don't always apply

[sleek turret]

like, aesthetic improvements in the sense of biome theme improvements?

[lucid marsh]

Something could be lore and theme consistent but not have that be the main reason

Here's an example

[sleek turret]

or aesthetic improvements in the sense of overall building aspects by adding tiles and furniture?

[lucid marsh]

"Astral grass should sparkle.
It would look cooler than just a plain color, and be fitting because it's star related, and stars sparkle"

[tired haven]

Use the accessibility loophole, clearly

[sleek turret]

ez

worldbuilding

[lucid marsh]

You might be able to make that fit, but you won't always

[sleek turret]

idk about the accessibility loophole

the one I see often is the vanilla compatibility one which is mid...

[echo leaf]

State why they would be beneficial to the gameplay experience

Fantastic example was that recent Skeletron sugg to change the appearance of projectiles with different behavior

[harsh echo]

^

[drowsy plank]

Make Astral Grass Sparkle
Astral Grass is a surprisingly useful tile, as it is one of the only ways to obtain Astral Grass Seeds. These are necessary to craft Star Struck Water of which these two items are the only way to spread small amounts of Astral without transplanting blocks. This could be useful if someone wanted to, say, build a tree farm for Monoliths, which are a very nice building material. They are also the only way to spread Astral at all in GFB.

If your Astral happens to land in a Snow, Desert, or Jungle biome, it could be difficult to locate patches of Astral Grass, and making them affected by something like Spelunkers wouldn't make any sense. Making Astral Grass tiles have a small, ambient sparkling effect would be thematic with how the biome is associated with stars, make them easier to locate, and could help give the biome a bit of flair that it lacks compared to vanilla biomes, such as the ambient glow of Crystal Shards in the Underground Hallowed.

[gaunt needle]

Add [extremely cool thing that has little to no gameplay implications] because it will positively impact the game in many different ways, including [...]

[molten lintel]

Bros got a +5 to persuasion

[spice stream]

i mean thats half of what makes a good suggestion

[umbral gazelle]

will i get a warned role if i ctrl c ctrl v this into #suggestions-posting this seem reasonable

[sleek turret]

yea what makes a sugg good is how much you persuade

most people just scan the contents of the sugg really, they don't throughly analize every detail

[gaunt needle]

You could probably ask gpt to do the suggestion and no one would notice

[drowsy plank]

nah idgaf go ahead

[median scaffold]

I will read this and say if it is worth it or not. The case itself sounds... interesting, at the very least

[median scaffold]

Can I commission someone to make a suggestion?

[harsh echo]

sure?

[drowsy plank]

i do this all the time lmao