suggestions-discussion

[misty lichen]

because the pierce resist system they want changed is insanely generous

if the suggestion was only addressing weapon resistances itd be fine since that would actually contribute to their main problem, but as is its almost close to misinformation

[drowsy plank]

okay i definetly get where you're coming from, but i also just think the logic here is terribly misinformed and even just sometimes outright wrong like schmoovi said

this is definitely leaning more towards a general idea, but it's not like the devs haven't been trying to find a solution themselves, and bloating worm HP is not a solution at all

it just, like i said, makes single target weapons even more useless, and makes worm bosses even more centralized on piercegodding them

[hollow shell]

again, be careful criticizing their proposals as something you don't think will work, as reasons to exclam it

[drowsy plank]

yeah, no, i get what you mean

id just need some actual evidence that this is the case at all, because one glance at class setups tells a very different story

hence why i wanted to redirect it to balance thread

since i feel like to get the pierce resistance system removed, you'd need some really solid evidence that it was somehow failing

[hollow shell]

The fact that the sugg doesn't seem supported by what is actually the case in practice,
that piercing weapons still do just fine against big/segmented bosses, even great sometimes,

is a more real problem with the sugg, yeah

[olive saddle]

Isn't the pierce resist system a base thing in vanilla too or am I high on stupid juice

[drowsy plank]

i think in a much more limited sense, yes

[drowsy plank]

yes it is vanilla

[royal tapir]

There’s no general system, but certain projectiles have individual damage falloff

[drowsy plank]

obvs cal takes it further but it very much exists

yeah

[hollow shell]

Still unsure if the sugg should be allowed to go to voting or not

I think that if they edited it to refocus on a different aspect they bring up,
the lack of clarity, with pierce resistance and specific weapon resource being invisible mechanics,
then they'd be able to get into voting no problem

Rather than implying that the resistances are too much and should be toned back, which is what seems unsupported by reality

[echo kestrel]

Is there any reason why Demonshade armor still gets zapped by Auric Ore when Shadowspec is made from Auric Bars? Or was that an oversight?

[drowsy plank]

if it was focused on resistances being an invisible mechanic id be more forgiving, but in general, i do not think anyone would call piercing weapons weak rn. so i think it's fine to say. single weapon resistances, maybe a bit more debatable, but the pierce res system is fine, in my opinion.

[hollow shell]

You could make a suggestion about that

[olive saddle]

From what I rember there was a reason

I dont remember said reason so i could be schizoposting

[idle dagger]

Demonshade eventually will be made as an alternative endgame armour, not made of shadowspec

[hollow shell]

Eventually ™️

That time is not now

[echo kestrel]

So, in five or so years

[idle dagger]

Yeah it's not soon iirc so

[echo kestrel]

Welp, guess that's a postin'

[idle dagger]

go right on ahead I'd say

[hollow shell]

@gaunt needle See above (and my messages above that)

It doesn't seem like the pierce resist system causes piercing weps to underperform in practice, so it would be best if you steered away from that in your suggestion

and focused more on informing the player about the system and specific resists

That would still help resolve the issue you're positing of piercing weapons not behaving like the player would expect against segmented/large bosses

[olive saddle]

I think every weapon should be made the same so weapon resistances don't need to exist that'd be an amazing solution (definitely true and totally not sarcasm)

[echo kestrel]

delete fake melee

true melee supremacy

[olive saddle]

Every weapon shoots a non piercing projectile once every 0.5 seconds

Thats all it is

[hollow shell]

true melee versus false melee

Also very good suggestion Rooksby

[echo kestrel]

I really tried to make it concise

[hollow shell]

I was indeed not expecting that much text for this

[echo kestrel]

but I realized if I didn't explain

It would sound really stupid lmao

NEVERMIND

[hollow shell]

I think you could merge that paragraph that's between the two counterpoints to be part of your first paragraph instead, as it gets close to reiterating the same points again

[echo kestrel]

this is the one time AI is helpful to me, in making shit way more concise

[hollow shell]

oh?

[echo kestrel]

There we go

[misty lichen]

oh……. thats calamity mod using ai……..

[echo kestrel]

malice mode ai posting

[hollow shell]

you've heard of Malice AI now get ready for Generative AI

[echo kestrel]

is that what lorde ai uses

[hollow shell]

absolutely

[echo kestrel]

[harsh echo]

[hollow shell]

(I also ran your old sugg through ChatGPT 4o and asked it to make it more concise.
It gave me:

"Suggestion: Make Demonshade Armor Immune to Auric Rejection.

Currently, touching exposed Auric Ore while wearing Demonshade armor results in being knocked back and taking 300 damage, despite Demonshade being crafted from Shadowspec bars, which include Auric bars. This inconsistency is frustrating, especially when trying to gather Auric Ore after prioritizing Demonshade armor over weapons.

While some may question the need for Auric Ore after obtaining Demonshade, I found myself needing Auric bars for crafting Shadowspec-tier weapons. The knockback mechanic felt unjustified given that Demonshade armor is stronger than Auric Tesla.

Making Demonshade armor immune to Auric Rejection would enhance consistency and convenience, especially as players gather resources post-SCal/Exos. Considering that endgame development is still in progress, implementing this change now seems prudent.

This suggestion aims to improve gameplay while we await the Calamity mod's future content."

Not bad.)

(I think the one you ended up with is better though)

[echo kestrel]

Oh that's neat

[hollow shell]

(Also this means we've inadvertently trained ChatGPT on Calamity Mod facts

It knows, now.)

[echo kestrel]

Oh. Right.

[sleek turret]

its getting conscious

[harsh echo]

its gonna generate the next claamity update

[echo kestrel]

Woops

I think the funniest shit ever would be to plug #changelogs into chat gpt and see what random shit it comes up with

[hollow shell]

it's ok I'm pretty sure it has already seen and absorbed the whole Calamity Mod wiki, it's on the surface web after all

[harsh echo]

scary thought

[echo leaf]

Hold on, I want to test something

[hollow shell]

asked it:
How do I craft Shadowspec Bars in the Calamity Mod for Terraria?

output:
To craft Shadowspec Bars in the Calamity Mod for Terraria, you'll need to follow these steps:

1. Obtain the Required Materials: You need to collect 5 Shadowspec Fragments and 1 Luminite Bar. Shadowspec Fragments can be obtained by defeating various post-Moon Lord bosses, and Luminite Bars are crafted from Luminite, which you get from the Moon Lord.

2. Use a Mythril or Orichalcum Anvil: Once you have the materials, go to a Mythril or Orichalcum Anvil.

3. Craft the Bars: At the anvil, combine the materials to create Shadowspec Bars.

These bars are used to craft powerful post-Moon Lord items and armor.

Not even close lmao

[echo leaf]

It knows

At at least it thinks it knows

[hollow shell]

Seems to know vanilla way better than Calamity

understandably

[echo kestrel]

V2.2.0.001 (not released):

1 - Fixed Arcane Geyser tooltip inconsistencies. - Done ✅
2 - Adjusted Lumenyl Rifle recoil to be less jarring. - Done ✅
3 - Reduced the spawn rate of Sand Sharks in Hardmode. - Done ✅
4 - Updated sell values for Profaned Guardians' drops. - Done ✅
5 - Increased Master+ Polterghast's Ghastly Barrage cooldown. - Done ✅
6 - Tweaked Expert+ Polterghast's Soul Spire velocity. - Done ✅
7 - Fixed tracking issues with Resplendent Gem projectiles. - Done ✅
8 - Improved sound design for Shadow Leviathan, Silvian, and Maelstrom. - Done ✅
9 - Adjusted tooltip placement for ranged weapons with unique charge mechanics. - Done ✅
10 - Abyssal Crates now have a chance to drop Voidstone. - Done ✅
11 - Reworked Forsaken Bolt. - Done ✅
12 - New sound effects for Astrageldon Slime's teleportation. - Done ✅
13 - Resprited the Charred Idol. - Done ✅
14 - Updated Pyroclasmic Destroyer and renamed it to Cataclysmic Destructor. - Done ✅
15 - Fixed a graphical bug with the Abyss Depth Meter. - Done ✅
16 - Added Phantoplague debuff. - Done ✅
17 - Added Titanstone Landmine. - Done ✅
18 - Crystalline weapons now inflict Fracture. - Done ✅
19 - Fixed issue with Ichor Blob lingering hitbox against invincible targets. - Done ✅

[echo leaf]

Trying its best

[echo kestrel]

This is hilarious

[errant wren]

dragon-like entity

[echo leaf]

Pyroclastic Destroyer genuinely sounds like a cool ass weapon

[hollow shell]

HAH

[echo kestrel]

Too bad it's getting renamed to Cataclysmic Destructor

[echo leaf]

Phantoplague, now the nanomachines are ghosts

[echo leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/920532113739120640.webp?size=64

[hollow shell]

I wanna see what Polter's "Soul Spire" attack looks like

Maybe it's what inflicts Phantoplague

[errant wren]

12 - New sound effects for Astrageldon Slime's teleportation. - Done ✅

[sleek turret]

download the lore doc and let gpt absorb it fully and ask for a rewrite

[echo kestrel]

he's baaaaaack!

[errant wren]

when did it pull the data

[echo leaf]

7 - Fixed tracking issues with Resplendent Gem projectiles. - Done ✅
king slime is getting buffed fuck

[hollow shell]

ok we should stop, in this channel at least

[echo leaf]

alright lol

[echo kestrel]

alright alright yea

[errant wren]

off topic moment

[echo kestrel]

where would this best go

I have more

[echo leaf]

cmt

[hollow shell]

Uhhh prolly gentalk actually

[echo leaf]

send it to cmt and watch them lose their fucking minds

[sleek turret]

general-media probably or cmt

[hollow shell]

gentalk or media

[echo kestrel]

gotcha

[lucid marsh]

Don't the auric tracers, whatever they're called, provide rejection immunity?

[novel belfry]

what the hell happened when i wasnt looking

[errant wren]

shenanigans

[novel belfry]

ChatGPT-designed changelogs???

[errant wren]

shenanigans

[novel belfry]

Im doing it

[echo kestrel]

I can check

[lucid marsh]

You can opt to use those

[novel belfry]

it has been sent

[echo kestrel]

[lucid marsh]

I would not know that this was fake if I didn't have more context

Well, except for astrageldon

I might also notice that those item names don't exist

[hollow shell]

Aside from some made-up names (which could be new items that the reader just doesn't know about),

I think the only clearly false thing is mentioning Astrageldon

yeah

[lucid marsh]

I don't like that this stuff exists and all the fucked up things about it, but it is neat and interesting on its own

[hollow shell]

I was gonna say that "Crystalline weapons" was also a tell, implying it's some kind of weapon category,

but that could just be a way of saying Crystalline, the rogue weapon, and its upgrades

[lucid marsh]

Like, it even got the check marks. That's significant evidence that it's being fed the changelog text from this server

Hell, it's probably being fed these very messages

[hollow shell]

Nah nah rooksby fed it the changelogs himself

[lucid marsh]

It's being constantly fed every piece of data these companies can get their hands on and get away with

[grim tusk]

Easiest 🔒 with most recent sugg

People really forgot Demonshade is being tiershifted huh

[hollow shell]

I don't think it's easy for AIs to get trained on Discord cuz it's a walled garden

[lucid marsh]

Oh, ok, that's... at least slightly comforting

[echo kestrel]

[hollow shell]

wait, in the next update?

[grim tusk]

Well all “buff KS” suggesters are winning

[grim tusk]

Unsure

[hollow shell]

If it's not in the update that's coming out, then it's still valid I think

It wouldn't be a hard change to do

((So I believe))

[echo kestrel]

((So do I))

[lucid marsh]

It's not too unreasonable for people to be unaware of the changes for demonshade tier

[echo kestrel]

Seraph Tracers

[lucid marsh]

Huh

[echo kestrel]

My mistake

I didn't have them equipped lol

I had them in vanity

[lucid marsh]

Oh

[echo kestrel]

I have checked, they do! But I usually go for Drew's Wings, since Demonshade already gives speed

[lucid marsh]

Makes sense

[hollow shell]

You could mention them in the suggestion as another counterpoint

[lucid marsh]

I personally think it would be worse to give immunity to more things, because dealing with not touching the ore gives more of a challenge, but I'm also the kind of guy who doesn't use vein miner and deals with hellstone manually

[hollow shell]

You still have to deal with it the first time

Guaranteed encounter

If you have Demonshade then you've already dealt with it

[lavish yoke]

guys i think we should add supreme calamitas from the popular terraria mod calamity

[idle dagger]

can you imagine years from now that for some classes (using non auric Tesla armour) seraph tracers become better Drew’s wings vs Yharim because it provides auric rejection immunity lmao

[hollow shell]

(I do agree that it's more interesting if the ore remains more of a threat even after the fact tho
But thas just me)

[hollow shell]

so funny

Sorry that was rude

[hollow shell]

Yharim inflicting Auric Rejection in his attacks cuz he's wearing the armor is funny to think about

He punches you and you go flying into next Tuesday

[idle dagger]

I assume that’s what would actually happen tbh
I mean his addition is like half a decade away

[oblique otter]

kicked out of the dragon's aerie due to auric rejection 💔

[idle dagger]

lol

Finally, a character who can literally “kick your ass to the moon”

[lavish yoke]

V15.0.0.001
1: Added Yharim (Has 3000 knockback on every attack due to Auric Rejection) ✅

[echo kestrel]

Added!

[hollow shell]

Very nice 👍

[echo kestrel]

It's definitely an interesting mechanic and I love how it caught me off guard the first time. I think it'd just make more sense once demonshade apparently gets tiershifted lower, hopefully as an alternate to auric tesla (?)

[boreal lichen]

It will be on the same tier as auric and the exo suits

[novel belfry]

I now inexplicably want auric slimes more than ever

imagine them being comically bouncy cause yknow

rejection

[boreal lichen]

Ore slimes are dying

except aero slime

[novel belfry]

...sincerely?

all of them?

i know they're a bit wack

[boreal lichen]

.

[echo kestrel]

oh no. wait doesn't this kill progression skips

[novel belfry]

but i thought at the very least uelibloom would go since uh, he is of a dying ore

[boreal lichen]

Devs want to replace them with more unique creatures

[novel belfry]

i suppose so...

[echo kestrel]

Oh thank god

I thought they were just outright removing them lmao

[boreal lichen]

Perennial slime will probably be the first to get killed

seeing as tho the perennial biome will be one of the first updates after sso iirc

[lucid marsh]

Perennial is dumb

Will be less dumb with its own biome, I suppose

[novel belfry]

its own biome?

[boreal lichen]

The ore is getting replaced too

[lucid marsh]

Yeah. Jungle 2.

[boreal lichen]

perennial bark and jade

[lucid marsh]

Probably

[echo kestrel]

I like the idea of more biomes with baked in ores that only become mine-able once a boss is dead

[echo leaf]

phishing

[echo kestrel]

i keep forgetting auric ore isn't the only thing you can get conveniently from crates

[boreal lichen]

Perennial will become an alloy of sorts

bark and new gem called jade will be the components

[novel belfry]

if im reading correctly, next updates gonna put a stop to that...

which is SUPER strange to me

[boreal lichen]

cryonic will become an alloy too

[novel belfry]

why just remove Calamity content from most of the crates? thats odd...

[boreal lichen]

so like 2 of the 3 materials for life alloy will be an alloy

[echo kestrel]

Huh? I just know that higher tier hardmode ores aren't meant to be gotten from crates until progression is made, and so now they're fixing that in the next update

[novel belfry]

there was more fishing changes

honestly im not sure how to interpret the above

[echo kestrel]

oh.

I missed that last one

Oh dear

Well at least hopefully we'll still have ore slimes next update

[echo leaf]

So 450 is a nerf to the Supreme Bait Tackle Box Fishing Station but also making it less preferable to crates, so it's a decent change

Since now it equally prefers everything, more or less

452 removes Mythril/Orichalcum from Mythril and biome crates, and Adamantite/Titanium from Titanium crates and biome crates. Patches that little cheese

453 and 454 makes the Calamity biome crates more consistent with vanilla

[echo kestrel]

454 though, doesn't that imply ores are being removed from crates?

[echo leaf]

oh shit uhhh

yeah good call erm

[echo kestrel]

...yeaaahhhh

[echo leaf]

ah fuck that's no bueno

[echo kestrel]

very no bueno

[echo leaf]

now you gotta skip to ravager to skip the mechs

can't fight plantera and fish for perennial

wait no you can. perennial slimes exist i'm a moron

[echo kestrel]

yes, and based on what Vanillin said, ore slimes are just getting replaced with unique mobs

but i'm guessing will probably serve the same function

[echo leaf]

Perennial golems

God it would be so funny if they were the most obnoxious enemies in existence

[echo kestrel]

it'd be so funny if they removed all the ore slimes only to replace them with ore golems

[idle dagger]

Oh wait really? Neat

[echo kestrel]

just granite golem variants

wait i swear i'm not having deja vu

nvm i'm not

[sleek turret]

subtle foreshadowing

[echo kestrel]

the sugg i was remembering was about adding another accessory into deific

[idle dagger]

Actually this is a repost a month later

It did really well last time, just barely missed the mark of getting sent

[echo kestrel]

holy

I am actually dejavuing lmao

[idle dagger]

Currently plan to look at all my past suggestions, see which ones did relatively well to the others posted around the same time, and decide if they’re worth reposting at some point

[lavish yoke]

#suggestions-posting message | @idle dagger you're so real for that

[ripe owl]

Hasn't it been suggested before?

[olive saddle]

It was suggested by the person yes

Though they added onto it

[errant wren]

i don't remember it being passed onto sugg voting

then again i only remember wacky stuff

it's a good suggestion in my opinion

[echo kestrel]

Yeah I like the nerf to the cd idea

So it isn't an automatic best-in-slot

[grim tusk]

hmm a charm of myths upgrade, maybe post deus
idk maybe it hasnt been done before and not gone wrong

:D

[errant wren]

charm of legends

[idle dagger]

honestly if 15 seconds on the upgrade is still too strong, keeping it 10 seconds is also plausible

[echo leaf]

It doesn't even need to do that. It can just keep the potion cd reduction and have an improved secondary effect beyond 1 HP/s

[lucid marsh]

I feel like I'm missing something here

you could keep the nerfed charm of myths effect on the upgrade and add a completely new and fancy effect on the upgrade

[echo kestrel]

assuming it's post-deus, i guess it'd just be a strong option aside from absorber

[lucid marsh]

like, idk, something themed around stars

[errant wren]

i think the summary is just nerf charm of myths and then add an upgrade at a later point that's equally strong as pre-nerf or stronger

[lucid marsh]

maybe even something like the mana cloak but it restores health as well as mana?

[idle dagger]

This is also great to me

[idle dagger]

meant to reply to this

[lucid marsh]

too bad SiS has been banned for years

[echo kestrel]

I think it ought to have some blood god theming since it builds into that

[idle dagger]

You see if I wanted to be more specific about it this is what I'd actually go for

But I'd rather leave it to the devs
Not that I can be specific about it anyway

[errant wren]

it just has a weaker bleed thing like the chalice

[lucid marsh]

"The bearer's pain calls a rain of celestial blood which can be consumed to restore health and mana"

[echo kestrel]

Maybe take a page out of eternity mode's hallowed enchantment

• better healing potion effectiveness
• potion healing is now gradual instead of instant

sort of a twist on bleed

[idle dagger]

There's a lot of things I think it could do, these ideas are all great
I think a part of what crafts the upgrade dropping from a blood moon would be pretty cool

maybe dreadnautilus specifically

[echo kestrel]

either that or something like a drastic change that is ultimately risky

• massive decrease in potion cooldown
• massive decrease in potion effectiveness

[novel belfry]

i love that idea

[echo kestrel]

as for blood theming:
Sanguine Philter
"Blood is fuel."

[ripe owl]

The miraculous return of the old Deific Amulet

[ornate kestrel]

I don't like the chalice of the blood god, so i wouldn't mine an intermediate upgrade that doesn't have the health is turned into damage taken over time

[hollow verge]

@frank wolf known bug

[frank wolf]

ah ok

[hollow verge]

it's an issue with tmodloader

[frank wolf]

oof, so not fixable here?

[errant wren]

not yet it seems

[crude geode]

Spriters when the sprite is required

[grim tusk]

i NEED sprites [spriter]

[distant gyro]

h

[crude geode]

@river lily known, just waiting on sprites

[river lily]

oh ic

i didn't know that

[hollow verge]

i forgot i had a suggestion i posted during The Great Downtime

[median scaffold]

Which one?

[misty lichen]

@river lily a few scoria items inflict brimstone flames

[river lily]

Which ones?

[misty lichen]

all set bonuses of hydrothermic armor

[river lily]

They all seem to inflict hellfire

oh the armor itself

[misty lichen]

the ranger set bonus also has a separate more consistent infliction of it

[distant gyro]

i dont think hellfire is a debuff that inflicts on the player

brimstone is just used because its close enough

[royal tapir]

Technically Hellfire does work on the player, but nothing inflicts it and it can be manually canceled

[golden sonnet]

lmao

[distant gyro]

frostbite 0.5

[golden sonnet]

I think a debuff you can cancel could be fun honestly, you stop attacking and do a reaction check

[distant gyro]

this is the part where i wish hybrid debuffs are real and hydrothermic stuff inflicts an exclusive heat/water debuff

[misty lichen]

there’s also the burning debuff used by fire blocks

which is -50 hp/s and reduced movement sped

[distant gyro]

i think everyone is immune to that debuff because something in their equipment will give it

if its not asgards then angel treads and if its neither then an obsidian skin potion will do

[misty lichen]

that wasn’t a real suggestion never use that debuff

[distant gyro]

i have no idea why that debuff is 50 whole dps

[royal tapir]

Block too hot for my feet :(

[distant gyro]

stupid ass hellstone bricks will vaporize you faster than miracle blight

apparently the terrarian has really bad feet

[royal tapir]

Making all boot accessories reduce Burning damage by 50% (definitely not scope hell)

[misty lichen]

if miracle blight is less than 50 dps that’s a different problem

[slim cairn]

Honestly dragonfire 2 would probably not be enjoyable

(though not really since dragonfire is a -30 and disables nat hp regen)

[hollow shell]

@verbal aspen You should definitely clarify what you mean by "number"
As in (what I assume you mean) the exact amount of time left in the cooldown in seconds. The duration.

(At first I thought you were referring to some kind of ID number and I was confused)

[misty lichen]

dragonfire 2 is perfectly fine when it isn’t inflicted by every attack the boss does

miracle blight is only inflicted by the two bigass beam attacks

let it be strong

and not last for 2 seconds

[sand marlin]

And the good thing about that is if you let them be strong then anti debuff measures also become more worth using

[verbal aspen]

Yeah ill do that my mind just blanked with the phrasing

[hollow idol]

campfires are already planned
just need to get sprited
@river lily

dang i got beat cuz the mention for it was an image

[oblique otter]

be me
kill yharon
unintentionally create a vulcanic winter out of his dead ashes
mfw

[frozen hornet]

yharon now turns the world into kingdom's edge from hollow knight

[median scaffold]

On my way to balance this mf:

[boreal lichen]

#suggestions-posting message
I feel like this guy has not read up on the new lore

[slim cairn]

@old prairie Yharon isnt dead for good though

Also currently even Yharon expected the player to slay him

[frozen hornet]

Even if that's the case

Him dying is still a big deal

Rn he just poofs out of existence

Sometimes you don't even see him fade to dust because he's off screen

[lucid marsh]

The animation should last longer, yeah

[idle dagger]

I’ll be fr I didn’t know he faded into dust lol

I’ve never actually seen it

[lucid marsh]

Me neither

I only heard about it

[old prairie]

Ok so it seems like lorewise I'm still 2years behind, but I think my point still stands, his "turning into ash" has a great impact on yharim and the story, so for that to be reflected in the game and not just on text would be a good way to let his presence linger and remind the player of what they have accomplished/done to further damage yharims mental state

[slim cairn]

We havent further damaged it though

Hell, he probably knew it was going to happen the moment we started killing stronger stuff

He knows hes going to die at this point

[frozen hornet]

Their situation is like one of them having a terminal illness

[hollow verge]

this sugg isn't going to get votes simply because it's too long and people won't read

[frozen hornet]

And have made peace with the fact that they won't see each other

[slim cairn]

Honestly

[frozen hornet]

True

[slim cairn]

The fact we exist might have improved yharims mental state

[hollow verge]

id make it a lot shorter

[slim cairn]

If you think about it

Because it took him ages to get where hes at right now

Hes old, he cant get much better

[old prairie]

True lol

[slim cairn]

But us? We are an upstart which rapidly went up the power scale

[hollow verge]

yeah i mean he tries to manipulate you to his side

[slim cairn]

The fact we exist gives Yharim hope

Even if Yharon died, he is saddened by that

But he knows Yharon is probably going to come back, just not to see Yharim alive

[old prairie]

But his this fact still pains him, does it not?

[slim cairn]

Not to a damaging state

Yharon feared Yharims death

Its painful but not crippling

Theres not much you can do to showcase that outside of words though

[old prairie]

I was thinking of like subtle gusts of fire and ash in the background to also pay like kind of a homage to DM Dokuros scrapped Tyrant track: "Ooh, king, while his ashes still linger in the sky, his message remains to get through to you." So something like the leafes flying through the wind during windy days to sometimes randomly pop up

[frozen hornet]

Meh it would be referencing something that will never be in game

Which is kinda weird imo

[old prairie]

That's only one of the reasons, but I think him just disappearing in a second and basically getting Thanos snapped is kinda lame for such an important boss

[frozen hornet]

That I agree

[old prairie]

I mean providence really goes out in a blaze of glory or gets eaten by dog if you play with infernum and dog goes with a bang and the exotic mechs go nuclear, but yharon just goes poof and turns into chicken nuggets and ash

[frozen hornet]

Base exos just explode into gore

they're not very grand

[old prairie]

Bruh

[median scaffold]

Tbh, SCal is also just a "poof"

[old prairie]

Ver, good point, but she doesn't die

I think infernum handled her mental breakdown perfectly

[median scaffold]

...I think you just want to add Infernum to base Calamity

[old prairie]

Not infernum in it's entirety but the mod does have some objective improvements over base calamity

I think some of the elements of that mod should be absorbed into base cal

[lucid marsh]

She doesn't, like, actually even have a mental breakdown though. Not in normal calamity

[old prairie]

In my head I'm still on the old lore and speculations, I have to catch up with the new stuff

[median scaffold]

I think it works in Infernum a little bit more, since the on-death effects are usually locked behind beating Infernum version of whatever boss, which are fairly harder than their normal versions
But at the same time, I do think that our adventure is not as "grandiose" as it could be

[old prairie]

I really do think the last couple of bosses should go way harder on your gpu

I want that climactic mgrr feeling I get a little bit in infernum with the exo mechs, dog and s cal

[drowsy plank]

on death, scal now spawns 9999 red dust particle 👍

[median scaffold]

Is that the maximum?

Okay, now spawn 600 more gore

[drowsy plank]

no that's over the maximum im just being funny

[old prairie]

It needs to be atleast 500 soul vortex's

[drowsy plank]

of course

[old prairie]

And we need a cutscene of her b*tch slapping yharim before he dies

[drowsy plank]

every boss now runs the most intense shader test possible on death. it doesn't even look good it's just like one of those gpu benchmark test animations that just tries to use as many resources as possible

this is the future of calamity

[old prairie]

We need really intense bloom shaders and screenshakes that are 10x bigger than your screen

Oh and just AAAAALLLLLLLL the motionblur

[median scaffold]

People with photosensitivity will say thanks to you

[old prairie]

Of course they will, this convo was about particles and ash once, now were talkng about epilepsy, good job everyone 👍

[golden sonnet]

?

[old prairie]

I love how the focus shifted from incorrect lore and possible ambient/particle effect to Infernum and totally sane ideas for shader effects that would fit just perfectly into the game and how epileptic people would love them

[golden sonnet]

I feel like you were the one who shifted it that way with this comment.

[old prairie]

Maybe I did, just a lil joke, a hint of irony, a little speck of comedy cold

Anyway I think some more particles and perhaps a subtle lasting ambient effect would do this boss more justice

[sleek turret]

a silly, a funny , a laughter, a smile, a comedy, a divine comedy, a comedy show, a comedian

[median scaffold]

A shut the comedy up

[sleek turret]

although you can just add the photosensivity on/off option in case of shader usage

like any proper videogame

[slim cairn]

You can always play infernum

The mod is there

Its not going away

While i do think things could be grander

They shouldnt try to emulate infernum

Infernum is its own thing

Plus having both be constantly performance wrecking on pml bosses would not be very fun

Providences death is very cool but if i wanna see it its always very anti climatic

Because its so laggy

If every pml boss went out like that itd be underwhelming

[novel belfry]

you can always just make boss visuals cooler, calamity boss visuals are incredibly bland
astrum aureus (my favorite punching bag) is so bland that there are weapons on-tier or before that are visually so much better looking (ark of the ancients, and I tried to stop myself from mentioning the biome blade)

[slim cairn]

I didnt say you couldnt

I just said they shouldnt follow infernums way imo

They can do their own spin on that which doesnt need to wreck everyones performance

[drowsy plank]

exo mechs should definitely get something, even if it's just like a reworked venusian trident explosion or something

something to indicate you just blew up a very powerful machine other than it turning into chunks like eye of cthulhu or something

[slim cairn]

True

Their explosion is very tame rn, they just fall apart

[hollow shell]

as if that's not comparably heartbreaking to an unexpected death

But yeah I think more grandiose death effects for important bosses would be very welcome

[slim cairn]

True

[novel belfry]

you’re saying player lore is that we’re the bioweapon from plague inc??!?!?!?!?

/s.

[hollow shell]

Ashes permanently lingering in the sky (or as like a periodic weather effect) after Yharon's death,
even if not meant to be a Yharim reflective thing,
can still at the very least be like a "what have I done" kind of thing for the player

Like here was one creature that was not a menace, it was a beauty of nature, and we killed it regardless, and we will never be allowed to forget that

[slim cairn]

Hmmm

....chimkem nugget

[hollow shell]

.. Maybe. idk, I'm not a lore writer

[echo leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/calamity-terraria-yharon-jungle-dragon-pat-gif-10486467131489662312

[hollow shell]

(actually I was one time but)

[echo leaf]

I’d be down to have these sort of long-lasting effects to give impact to the player

Maybe slime/plagued enemy spawn rates decrease a bit briefly after Slime God’s/Plaguebringer Goliath’s defeat

[novel belfry]

I know he’s supposed to be a villain (he sent yharim on a genocidal rampage upon the gods and their worshippers), but ive always seen him as a highly sympathetic fellow, who watched his entire kind get genocided by the very gods, and understandably would be… kinda mentally ill

[gaunt needle]

yes please make more player actions have lasting consequences

[lucid marsh]

that would not make sense for yharon. He is just as much of a menace as yharim

[hollow shell]

I don't know New Lore the best, admittedly

He's still a frickin dragon though

[slim cairn]

Hes not dead for good tbh

The impact is mostly on Yharon himself and Yharim (though not as badly as the person who suggested that thought)

[median scaffold]

Yes, please

[lucid marsh]

Yharon was sapient and basically has all the same views as yharim, their souls were "attuned"

[echo leaf]

I don’t care, I love him, i can fix him

[hollow shell]

((What I'm gathering from this is that the death of Yharon in New Lore is significantly less emotional, impactful, and meaningful than in the lore when Dokuro was around...))

[lucid marsh]

Yeah

[slim cairn]

Yharon is the dragon of rebirth rn

Its his whole shtick

He could revive other auric dragons (when they had their souls still) and himself

[glass arch]

its still pretty massive

[lucid marsh]

It is a good thing because he's evil. He will come back in 10 years, but when he does, the only person who cared about him will be dead either from old age or because of the player

[hollow shell]

You kill Yharon but actually he unambiguously deserved to die and actually his soul companion doesn't really mind that much
and actually he'll just come back later anyway, so really you didn't do anything at all except give yourself access to Auric Ore and inconvenience Yharon for a while, while he re-coalesces or whatever

[slim cairn]

His companion does mind

[hollow shell]

Just not that much

[slim cairn]

Its just that he couldnt stop yharon from doing it

[glass arch]

no yharim cares a lot actually

[lucid marsh]

yeah he does care a lot

[slim cairn]

Yharim cares a lot its just not something that will break him

[lucid marsh]

imagine if your best friend was like "I'm going to go fight a tank for you and you cannot change my mind, goodbye."

you'd be shaken up by it

but you'd also know ahead of time

[slim cairn]

The thing about Yharim is that he already accepted his death @hollow shell

Thats why he isnt audibly breaking down

He knows hes going to die soon

Theres nothing he can do

And he cant even complete his own goal because hes so far away from Xeroc

Both literally and in a power sense

His best bet is pretty much us killing him

[lucid marsh]

Every character in calamity is intended to be written like a real person. Everyone has reasons for doing things, they're all human in terms of behavior. Not "just monsters", and that doesn't make them any less evil or make it any more possible to "redeem" them.

[slim cairn]

Also sorry for the ping im not gonna do it again

[hollow shell]

(nah s'fine)

Okay
There's still something there, still the death of a companion

Even if expected, there is still weight to watching the heartrate monitor finally go flat

[gaunt needle]

as it currently stands killing DoG is more emotional than yharon tbh

[hollow shell]

In terms of lore or in-game execution?

[gaunt needle]

in-game execution

i don't have much knowledge about lore other than "all in-game lore items are a lie and yharim is a war criminal"

[lucid marsh]

it's not always completely lies

there's usually some truth to it

and yeah, It would make sense for there to be more involved with the death of yharon

[violet zephyr]

Classic politician.

[lucid marsh]

it also signifies the end game beginning, with all the final bosses opened up at that point

[dense ferry]

Absolutely not

Yharon is just not a guiltless pet anymore

[slim cairn]

I do think Yharon is compelling still, you just arent forced to only feel bad for him

What they did to his species was absolutely criminal

[violet zephyr]

Yharon is more bird like than ever before, in that it is actually intelligent.

[slim cairn]

But it drove Yharon to be too extreme

[dense ferry]

He and Yharim are friends, regardless of the atrocities both of the committed. When you kill Yharon, he will also not come back in time to ever meet Yharim again because by the time he revives he'll either have been killed by you or died of age

They are the best friends of each other and you are separating them. The only difference is that they're war criminals :p

Which has been a thing ever since Dokuro wrote RotJD

[slim cairn]

True, the lyrics are pretty up to date

Lore wise

[dense ferry]

Only difference is that Yharon was more like a dog than Yharim's actual friend

[violet zephyr]

Did Yharon used to revive before?

[dense ferry]

Yeah

[violet zephyr]

Faster or slower than current?

[dense ferry]

Fast enough that showing up for the Yharim fight was floated around often

[violet zephyr]

One day revive.

What an impactful death.

Yharon should just keep fighting the player day by day at that point.

[dense ferry]

You have no fucking idea how many times I bitched around Yharon's revival

@frail mantle can attest for me (btw hi there)

[slim cairn]

New fun activity

[frail mantle]

yea i think the memories are starting to flood back

btw have they found it yet

[violet zephyr]

Found what?

[slim cairn]

The

[dense ferry]

Not yet

[frail mantle]

unfortunate

better luck next time

(this was a trick because i'm actually vaguely paying attention to OP now )

[dense ferry]

HOLY SHIT

[sand marlin]

#suggestions-voting message huh this got into voting?

[violet zephyr]

It can just get the lock emoji on it.

[hollow shell]

(sorry if I provided insult Rebecca)

(I have some attachment to old lore as the original RotJD was like the emotional peak of Tale of a Cruel World as an album (and I like Tyrant too),
so I was bothered by the implication of the responses to this sugg, that Yharon didn't really deserve as emotional of a death as was being proposed)

[dense ferry]

Nah it's alright

Ultimately RotJD would lose its impact no matter what happened because Yharim is, y'know

The villain

[errant wren]

imagine changing the chorus to "this is my message to my best friend"

[dense ferry]

And if we wanted to give an interesting relationship between Yharim and Yharon we'd have to make Yharon a proper person

Which

Makes him a villain

But it's still there

You are still killing the guy's best friend

It just becomes a matter of Yharim and Yharon being sympathetic, which I think is there

It's just that Stip and specially Cei made sure to tell people how

No, Yharim isn't a tragic hero who fell from grace. He fucking slaughtered millions of people and commited mass-scale systemic genocide and ethnical cleansing

And Yharon was his accomplice

[violet zephyr]

No, but you see, Yharim is a tragic hero because he called himself a hero, and we all know the best sources of whether or not someone was seen as a hero is themselves.

[dense ferry]

Now, if you think Yharim was justified is another story and that's entirely up to interpretation

Ultimately it's just that Yharon isn't as innocent anymore because he went from being essentially a dog to an actual person

[golden sonnet]

there's a reason old RotJD uses "Master", old lore Yharon was kinda just a slave. Now with being attuned to Yharim and having his own motivations, Yharon arguably caused the fucked up things to happen just as much as Yharim did

[violet zephyr]

Thankfully, "Master" can still be seen as a respect thing, like a student to a teacher.

[dense ferry]

I just view it as Yharon acknowledging Yharim is a better tactician and leader than he is and has surpassed him in his goal

[golden sonnet]

yeah for sure, it still works great in new lore. Was just agreeing with Reb that old lore yharon didn't have much individuality, and it felt like all the focus was on Yharim

[gray bone]

#suggestions-posting message

[dense ferry]

Also if you want my opinion, Yharon is the actual tragic hero of the story

So RotJD is perfectly justified to be emotional

[whole tundra]

#suggestions-posting message So true bestie

[violet zephyr]

10/10 Suggestion.

[echo leaf]

add building to calamity

[crude geode]

Calamitas hitting the griddy

[violet zephyr]

(Rebecca, you don't mind putting an excalamation reaction onto that suggestion, do you?)

[echo leaf]

devourer of gods doing take the L

[dense ferry]

His entire kin got slaughtered over the course of a few decades while he could do nothing. Following that he was relentlessly hunted, their children were equally butchered and their entire culture became a taboo

Like

I would be REALLY FUCKING PISSED if I was him too

[sleek turret]

fortnite battle pass including yharim's armor as a skin and his sword as a pickaxe

[slim cairn]

True

[violet zephyr]

Calamitas as a backpack.

[sleek turret]

• 5 songs from dm dokuro on fortnite's festival mode

[violet zephyr]

(Short)

[errant wren]

yharon as one of the gliders

[umbral gazelle]

without collab people will eventually cosplay yharim in fortnite

somehow even

[hollow verge]

i think fortnite should get a boss in calamity

[umbral gazelle]

#suggestions-posting message @quick abyss your suggestion need; valid reason, valid title, valid suggestion format, valid suggestion

[stable kiln]

fortnite collab

[errant wren]

fortnite collab is the best sugg ever

[boreal lichen]

#suggestions-posting message This is honestly peak

[gaunt needle]

yo guys have you seen the suggestion? it's actually so fire

[sleek turret]

image of this guy with caption below "I used to pray for times like these"

[drowsy plank]

@quick abyss no joke suggestions

[quick abyss]

IM NOT JOKING

I THINK THIS WOULD BE GREAT

[drowsy plank]

wow ive never heard this one before

[quick abyss]

IM COOKING UP A RESON

soryr

im so sorry

for like being an idiot

but i think its a great way to reach out to people and its also sick as hell

[sleek turret]

nah you're true this would make big money to calamity

[drowsy plank]

please dont encourage this

[quick abyss]

NO BUT LIKE

WHATS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH IT

[frail mantle]

i don't exactly think calamity has quite the reach to get in touch with fortnite hq

[drowsy plank]

i could write an essay

[quick abyss]

i understand that it is over done

[sand marlin]

Please read the rules

[frail mantle]

maybe relogic would but even then i don't know

[quick abyss]

says nothing about this

besides

joke / troll

but it isnt realllyy at troll

[harsh echo]

don't say the r word

[errant wren]

which is something that is against the rules

[drowsy plank]

Suggestions to add more references to other media
Extremely effort-intensive or broadly scoped suggestions
Joke/troll suggestions

there you go there are the rules you're breaking

[sand marlin]

And a bunch of other suggestion related practices that must be done, not just DON'Ts

[quick abyss]

yeah becuase i said litterally 2 words

[drowsy plank]

mhm

[errant wren]

like if it was put in here instead of the actual channel then it would be funnier, not that i'm encouraging it

[quick abyss]

and suggestiosn to add more media only applies to calamity

[drowsy plank]

that's actually worse

[quick abyss]

wdym?

[errant wren]

is that addressed to me or saturn

[drowsy plank]

okay well if you meant calamity in fortnite instead of the other way around you're also violating the rule about this being for in game calamity suggestions only

Saturn

[errant wren]

ah

[quick abyss]

i cant add calamity to fortnite

[drowsy plank]

ok

i have no idea what you are trying to do at this point to be honest

please read the rules and maybe ask some questions before making another suggestion

[violet zephyr]

They want to act funny without ever getting a proper sense of humour.

Of course, they can't admit this, because they'd be admitting to wasting everyone's time.

[quick abyss]

but like what if im fr about this

waht if i want this to actually happen

[drowsy plank]

how old are you

[quick abyss]

16

[drowsy plank]

mhm

[errant wren]

right..

[quick abyss]

do u need to see my id??

[harsh echo]

strange user

[drowsy plank]

what exactly is "it" at this point because ur two word suggestion isn't conveying your point very well

[quick abyss]

i know

[median scaffold]

What happened.....

[drowsy plank]

"fortnite collab"

[quick abyss]

check posting

[drowsy plank]

no i deleted it

[quick abyss]

oh lol

[sand marlin]

Look, Saturn. I'm finding it a bit hard to believe you're being serious about this but if you are, you need to consider what can be done and what can't be first and properly read the rules and follow them. Please don't misuse the channel's purpose

[median scaffold]

The suggestion is deleted and I can't ask about it (also violation of rules)

[quick abyss]

WAIT FR

LOL

[drowsy plank]

eh in this scenario it's two words so idrc

and we're still discussing it anyway

which is funny

[sand marlin]

I left it as is because you were wrapping it up pretty much byeah

[drowsy plank]

normally they just say "im not joking" and then when we point out that it is obviously a joke they just give up

[errant wren]

i can only really say that it was funny for like the first minute and then this part happened

[drowsy plank]

but ur still here so im legitimately curious still what is the gameplan here my man

yeah

[quick abyss]

uh

i want to cookk up an essay

but im playing fortnite rn so ica nt lol

[median scaffold]

So, what was the suggestion, if that's fine to ask?

[errant wren]

"fortnite collab"

[echo leaf]

add fortnite

[median scaffold]

[drowsy plank]

yeah it was literally two words

i just gave them the old "no joke suggestions" and here we are

[median scaffold]

That's not a really good suggestion, from a few standpoints at the very least...

[quick abyss]

it isnt perfect

[drowsy plank]

he keeps saying "he means this for real" but can't explain what "fortnite collab" means in a way that does not violate multiple suggestion rules

[quick abyss]

ugh okay

[drowsy plank]

like there are two interpretations i can think of here
either you want something from calamity in fortnite
or something from fortnite in calamity

[median scaffold]

The first one is so funny......

[quick abyss]

calamity in fortnite

idrc about fortnite in calamity

[median scaffold]

Imagine Epic Games coming to Fabsol and not Redigit

[drowsy plank]

ikr

[median scaffold]

Just play Calamity at this point, please

[quick abyss]

i have??

[drowsy plank]

yes for sure let us ignore one of the best selling games of all time to get a mod for it on board

[median scaffold]

Play more, ig

[quick abyss]

yeah it is pretty stupid

[median scaffold]

Is Terraria one of the best selling games, idr?

[drowsy plank]

yeah terraria is 7th

[errant wren]

A Fortnite Collab
i really want this collab because calamity and fortnite are both Epic Games

[drowsy plank]

right behind red dead

[quick abyss]

lmao

yall are kinda right for sayiugn that its stupid they wouldnt go for terraira first

so i guess

thats the next plan!!

[median scaffold]

Okay, go ahead

[quick abyss]

okay!! cya later

[median scaffold]

Try to message both Redigit and whoever is behind Fortnite to make a collab between those 2 games

[drowsy plank]

honestly it should be 6th because they have mario kart 8 and mario kart 8 deluxe packaged as a single unit at 5th which is dumb no other game is treated like that lmao

[quick abyss]

if they do that for all games then tetris is no1

or so ive heard

[median scaffold]

To be fair, Mario Kart 8 and its deluxe versions were almost identical at some point (and the latter was just a port, iirc)

[median scaffold]

Minecraft is the best selling game, iirc

[drowsy plank]

well yeah i get it, but it's different content, and like super mario bros. the original game is right under that so like

[quick abyss]

but tetris has had like 50 games

and like

lots of people buyt hem

[drowsy plank]

do you include the versions on virtual console? do you include the physical handhelds that come with it preloaded?

[median scaffold]

And Minecraft is a single game

A game doesn't mean a franchise

[drowsy plank]

unlike terraria or minecraft it's way harder to pin down what counts as a sale of that game

[quick abyss]

mc has 300m

(i litterally checked this earlier today lol)

[errant wren]

pack-in sales..

[errant wren]

wait why are we still having this discussion

[drowsy plank]

funny i guess

[median scaffold]

Funnies

[errant wren]

fair

[quick abyss]

waht does this mean

[drowsy plank]

i guess it should probably go to #general-talk if we're being reasonable here but like

[errant wren]

carry on

[drowsy plank]

idk ill ask people to stop when a new suggestion crops up

[errant wren]

ima go back to lurking again

see y'all in 76

[quick abyss]

sorry for causing so much trouble yal

[median scaffold]

Good luck

[drowsy plank]

it's whatever there have been worse

[quick abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/sentenced-to-cmt-calamity-mod-talk-gif-27242802

[sleek turret]

TRUE

[harsh echo]

plural day are always the sloweswt...

[quick abyss]

no days are plural

wait

say that again??

[lucid marsh]

counting tetris as the #1 selling game is like counting every game in the mario kart series

or the GTA series

[median scaffold]

Yeah

[echo leaf]

Minesweeper is the best selling game because it every user of the Windows operating system owns it

[quick abyss]

lmao

[sleek turret]

preinstalled minesweeper is gone though,,,

[outer pumice]

Waiting for Warhammer 40,000 in Calamity

https://tenor.com/view/anime-finger-spinning-gif-4793606

[median scaffold]

There is a reference to it, I think

Yeah

[outer pumice]

I didn't know)

[median scaffold]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/User:Laia_RGA/Sandbox
Check this out

[outer pumice]

Really

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-memes-cat-images-cat-meme-gif-4644773688486402896

I haven't paid any attention to this in 300 hours of play

375 >:)

[violet zephyr]

Clearly the wings are attached to the banner.

[echo leaf]

We need an amputation

[idle dagger]

Yeah that definitely does look a bit strange visually

[drowsy plank]

how did you forget burnt pan? it's literally shayy undertale's donor weapon

oh wait this is probably really old

[royal tapir]

I'm pretty sure YuH already has a list of references on one of his sandboxes

[golden sonnet]

YuH sandbox #756

[harsh echo]

Looks like some thing are missing

[harsh echo]

link?

[novel belfry]

I JUST learned right now about the Terrarian's ability to actually get the Legendary modifier

im mentioning it here because, assuming modders can somehow apply this to other non-sword melee weapons, this would be very neat

[golden sonnet]

they can but not getting legendary is still the default for weapons that don't scale with it

terrarian is like that for flavor, and it wouldn't make a ton of sense to use that on much else tbh

[novel belfry]

i dunno man, i think its really inconsistent to have half of the melee weapons not able to have the "strongest" modifier

[golden sonnet]

that's how vanilla is as well

[novel belfry]

ya

what about Azathoth? That's the upgrade to the Terrarian

[lucid marsh]

That's wack

Since it was a sponsor thing, maybe they wanted it

[golden sonnet]

I suppose calamity does already do this

(which is just not mentioned on the vanilla changes page)

[novel belfry]

for some reason no melee changes tho...

[golden sonnet]

oh no wait

it is mentioned my bad

[misty lichen]

its not been mentioned much since a suggestion to do this was denied a bit over a year ago

which is ESPECIALLY dumb when spears now do scale with melee speed but still have to use godly

[golden sonnet]

tbh this is one of the few times I disagree with not posting a suggestion because of precendent

I know it was only a year ago, but it really does seem silly they changed it for every class except melee

or at least allow it for spears or something

[misty lichen]

it is silly

and that was fresh out of the melee speed era

[golden sonnet]

would it be against the rules to make a suggestion just for spears and yoyos

[crude geode]

If you use the consistency argument probably not

[misty lichen]

i dont see why yoyos are special here

they only get a minor range increase from melee speed, just like flails and boomerangs

[golden sonnet]

yeah, I was gonna do these two and just say fuck flails

[golden sonnet]

to be fair pretty sure modifiers directly affect use time, not like other bonuses

same reason modifiers like light affect mining speed, but melee speed bonuses do not

but terrarian already exists as an example of what could be done, even if it is a workaround\

[grave zinc]

@marble bone - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a bloodworm terrarium]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[distant gyro]

bloodworm is not a surviving critter

[grave zinc]

@novel belfry - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rename the Ultra Liquidator.]

It has been add to the devs' to-do list and planned for implementation!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[distant gyro]

will come with the rework

which is either this update or how long it takes for someone to remember to sprite placeholder sprites

[novel belfry]

YOU'RE REWORKING IT!?

HOLY SHIT

thats even better

[distant gyro]

well, @royal tapir has already done so

[lucid marsh]

Bloodworm is being removed?

That's unfortunate

[novel belfry]

ya they;re completely reworking the method to spawn old duke

[royal tapir]

It's been done for months technically

[lucid marsh]

Calamity has lost it's sillyness. It was ok that old duke was similar to duke fishron

[royal tapir]

Here we go again

[novel belfry]

(tbh i'd just keep bloodworm as a really good rare bait)

[distant gyro]

placeholder sprite purgatory

[lucid marsh]

Sorry. I like the new one

[distant gyro]

gotta love it

[royal tapir]

death

[lucid marsh]

I just think the old stuff was charming

[echo leaf]

i'm down for this

keep the bait power though

50% bait power from third best, 75% from second best, 4444% from best

[novel belfry]

nah, i'd keep it as
60% everywhere, but 85% in Sulphurous Sea/Ocean

[oblique otter]

"guys why can't i fish for old duke anymore? i wasted 4 bloodworms already"

[novel belfry]

uh, what's stopping you from...?

[misty lichen]

they need to be mysterious and cool

cant ask for sprites bc that makes them look unmanly

[lucid marsh]

Maybe blood worms can be a bait that drops from old duke

Can I make a suggestion about that? Probably not

[oblique otter]

....what

what's the correlation

[novel belfry]

he ate em

and you took it outta his stomach

i really like the bestiary entry of the Bloodworm (incidentally making it better than the Old Duke's current bestiary entry...)

[oblique otter]

like yharon dropping 5 thousand nuggets in infernum, gotcha

[distant gyro]

idk i dont deal with that stuff

[novel belfry]

fair

[dense ferry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466943505663655937/1083946998614470748/1678391318329531.gif

You have no idea how much self restraint I am exhibiting right now to not explode on you

[novel belfry]

i should've expected this

[dense ferry]

You should, and I'm going to tell one last time to get over the Old Duke Bestiary because by this point I just feel like you're insulting the writing

[grave zinc]

@river lily - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add campfires for calamity torches.]

It has been add to the devs' to-do list and planned for implementation!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[errant wren]

i love campfires

[novel belfry]

okay, clearly you're getting fed up over someone having a bad opinion of what I'm going to assume is your writing (if im wrong then you can make fun of me for making this), and getting overly defensive over that opinion.
if that's the case, I'm sorry about that. I'll avoid mentioning this topic again

[golden sonnet]

idk, I feel it's not really the fact it's a negative opinion, it's that it is brought up like every time I see you in this chat

[median scaffold]

Actually, on the topic of infected onto the player Hellfire debuff being non-existence, how was the Shadowflame debuff made?

[misty lichen]

it was made by calamity for calamity

the player version

[median scaffold]

I know, the question is how?

Do they make a separate debuff just to inflict it unto the player or something else?

[royal tapir]

Yes

[median scaffold]

Make another one for Hellfire, easy (it is not, is it?)

[echo kestrel]

oh huh i guess the demonshade thing made it to voting

[coral carbon]

If always the top-voted 20% of suggestions pass

Then you can make more good suggestions pass by making more bad-but-still-within-the-rules suggestions

[sand marlin]

If they aren't dead already sure

[median scaffold]

Was there a discussion about this system having a change or smth?

[coral carbon]

Yeah, there was

I don't know what the conclusion was tho

[median scaffold]

Should we ping Nycro?

[lucid marsh]

There was no real conclusion, from what I understand

[idle dagger]

Kind of

If there is let’s say 10 posts before, and yours was the 4th best, you’d need to make an additional 8 posts to bump up the average posts number so the top 20% is four posts

Technically yes? This is possible
It’s not a even impossible to make 8 good posts if you’ve got a lot to say

[weary plaza]

make 8 posts about movement being really bad only to realize that your keyboard was broken

[spice stream]

my friend had a similar problem lmao

[whole tundra]

Huh there's 2 recipes????

[violet zephyr]

Calamity changes it so that you are forced to use the class emblem, instead of any Wall of Flesh emblem.

[round ravine]

Oh. Well, if that's the case, shouldn't the recipe be moved to the Tinkerer's Workshop?

[violet zephyr]

I believe that was an oversight that was fixed.

Or, planned to fix.

[round ravine]

Ah, okay.

[violet zephyr]

One of the developers had noted that a lot of early Calamity recipes didn't use stations.

[misty lichen]

not gonna post a suggestion about this but

weapon named “primordial earth”, probably crafted with earthen-ish materials, right?
bar from outer space
spooky ghost goop

[drowsy plank]

comet quasher.......

[median scaffold]

It is even funnier, because, you know... Spectre bars exist??

[misty lichen]

cores of sunlight exist

just use that

[royal tapir]

Recipe already got changed when Xyk reworked it

[harsh echo]

ah what did it get changed to

[frail fox]

3 dirtiest blocks

[spice stream]

3 dirt

[misty lichen]

lets see if this is true or rubbish

[tired haven]

Its dirt
Duh

[harsh echo]

true

[lucid flare]

1000 dirt blocks

[spice stream]

what else would it be?!

[lucid flare]

mud

or Sand

[spice stream]

earth is only made of dirt!

[lucid flare]

aha !

it'll use... Earth (the weapon)

[royal tapir]

Ambers and Cores of Sunlight

[hollow shell]

Makes sense

[median scaffold]

@weary plank
Download any cheat mod, please

[glass arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172704035825000580/1279282476769869909/caption.gif

@inland saddle

[median scaffold]

Wait, what
Again??

[glass arch]

yup

its currently down

[echo leaf]

[gray bone]

it lived a good life

[median scaffold]

It lived for 2 or 3 days, what the fuck

[echo leaf]

Who sabotaged it

[inland saddle]

I’m literally going to explode

Give me a few hours it’ll be back

[median scaffold]

I really hope you're alright....

[sleek turret]

peak sugg

[inland saddle]

Oh yeah I’m doing much better now, wifi and power are both back and although some people in my area are still struggling, things have mostly returned to normal for me

I appreciate the concern

I’m just at work right now

[median scaffold]

That's fine. Good luck with whatever you're doing right now

[inland saddle]

I’m filming for the news, early voting just started

If you’re old enough go vote 🗳️

[whole tundra]

#suggestions-posting message download an old cal version and cheat in lul

[echo leaf]

download the nefarious "Cheat Sheet" and select the dastardly "Godmode" button

[coral carbon]

I have a better suggestion
1 health maximum

For real though, you can get inf health without any mods

Just make a Journey Mode character and enable godmode there

[worthy lintel]

how has this joke sugg survived deletion for half an hour

anyways

[inland saddle]

Well well well

If it isn’t my old arch nemesis

Discord itself

[crude geode]

Nycro about to fistfight the discord staff for the 500th time

[inland saddle]

I’ll implement safety for this tonight

For now it’s back up

[hollow shell]

Nice thank you Nycro

[inland saddle]

Discord back at it again dang

[violet zephyr]

What if we explode Discord?

[sleek turret]

IRC FACT CHECK STATUS:

✅ TRUE

[olive saddle]

Not opposed. At least then they can stop selling overpriced avatar customization

[slim cairn]

What was the suggestion

[novel belfry]

Infinite HP

[olive saddle]

?????????

[harsh echo]

its optional tho (but i doubt the average nitro user has good financial literacy XD)

[hollow shell]

Better than putting ads in the app.
At least, the app itself.

(I believe the ads in YouTube embeds was YouTube's own doing, not Discord's)

[violet zephyr]

Switching through channels/servers quickly
Ad pops up
You click on the add because of your intense switching

[crude geode]

youtube ads make me want to shank a CEO (more)

regardless of if it's in discord or not

[misty lichen]

me when i experience a minor inconvenience

[slim cairn]

Its getting ridiculous though

Was watching a 2 hour video a few days ago

I shit you not i was getting 2 ads every 10 minutes

Its not even because of the youtuber either

He didnt use to have that many ads, and they are popping more often on every video im in

Like sorry but at a point minor inconveniences pile up

[misty lichen]

install ONE adblocker

[slim cairn]

Cellphone

If you have any cellphone options

Please, id gladly accept it

[errant wren]

i would like to point out that youtube is actively trying to get adblockers to not work on the site

[echo leaf]

It's funny that YouTube has declared war on adblockers and made the platform actively worse for everyone while adblock developers just consistently bypass their changes

[sleek turret]

Youtube ReVanced

Comes with adblocker integrated and Sponsorblock integrated too and most of the Youtube premium features included for mobile

[slim cairn]

I need a youtube apk or to root my phone

[sleek turret]

uhh its just patching

no root needed

[slim cairn]

Hence why the apk

[lucid marsh]

I use this one!

[lucid marsh]

Not exactly how it works. There's an APK for the "ReVanced Manager" app, which then requires you to get an APK for YouTube itself, and it will then let you patch that youtube app APK

The YouTube APK is freely available online

My phone is not rooted, it's even a Google pixel one, and it works for me

[slim cairn]

Yes its what i meant

I need the youtube apk

If i dont want to root

[lucid marsh]

That's freely available online

[slim cairn]

Im sorta weary because i dont want to have downloaded from the wrong place lol

[lucid marsh]

Understandable. Let me help

[slim cairn]

Alright

[hollow shell]

(I just use Brave Browser
If you don't like them for their crypto shit that's fair, but their adblocker for YouTube works, and you don't gotta do weird shit to install it like with ReVanced)

[slim cairn]

Fair, i managed to get it working, its somewhat straightforward if you have anyone helping but pretty scary if you dont

Editing slightly just in case

[lucid marsh]

Firefox also works

[hollow shell]

I don't know why I chose to install Brave instead of using Firefox, considering I already had Firefox

but I assume I had a reason

[lucid marsh]

Firefox on mobile isn't the best, but it works

It's got some weird design choices

[slim cairn]

Yeah

[round ravine]

Do you guys think 60 seconds is a fair length of time to be stuck with the Potion Sickness debuff without the Philosopher's Stone?

[sand marlin]

Yes

[worthy lintel]

i suppose so, given we've been stuck with it since.... 2011

👴

(philosopher stone is comedy)

[lucid marsh]

Absolutely. In order to make a smaller duration fair, you'd also have to reduce the healing by a proportional amount, I think.

[slim cairn]

I think 60 without any reduction accessories is fair

[olive saddle]

Clearly we should reduce the time and healing by 95%. Adds more interactivity to gameplay

[slim cairn]

[lucid marsh]

Button spam...

[olive saddle]

Carpal tunnel any% speedrun

[lucid marsh]

I just remembered

Silva wings should buff the Silva revive from auric armor

[olive saddle]

I think its like that intentionally-- the wings dont buff auric revive

[lucid marsh]

I know it's intentional, I don't like it though

It's not "auric revive", it's still the Silva revive

[olive saddle]

I say that in terms of silva being on auric and not having to type the whole damn thing out

[round ravine]

Guess I'm impatient, then.

[slim cairn]

Maybe you should just get better
(Im joking i suck at the game )

[lucid marsh]

The amount of time is kind of irrelevant. You have to dodge for long enough to not die, and get help every 60 seconds. It would be the same, except for more work, to have the potions available more often for a smaller heal

[echo leaf]

60 seconds is fine

[median scaffold]

How about making Drew's Wings give all bonuses of previous wings?

[sand marlin]

[echo kestrel]

as long as it makes the 3 MOAB jumps mandatory before you get to fly

[median scaffold]

YES

[spice stream]

peak!

[harsh echo]

Hire this man

[misty lichen]

another one, voidstone in item recipe for literally no reason. it used to inflict crush depth, but not anymore!! also ice machine 💀

[spice stream]

they should combine ice machine with mythril anvil

[royal tapir]

Changing it to Ice Bricks

Clearly

[spice stream]

ice brick my beloved

[distant gyro]

yeah funny because the "crush" part of frostcrush is supposed to be crush depth

[drowsy plank]

hasnt rebecca gone on record multiple times saying silva will not be doing that

[spice stream]

is there a specific reason, like it’d be overpowered

[drowsy plank]

like not even for the original armor set

no she just didnt like how it kind of just guaranteed your wing pick