suggestions-discussion

[olive saddle]

Oh ok

[wide river]

Here were the results of that batch though

[olive saddle]

Based sugg ngl

[wide river]

Maybe I'd actually use them if they were like this

[olive saddle]

Same

[fleet grotto]

for some reason i originally wrote "Fabsol's Candles"

technically not wrong

[fleet grotto]

sold by dryad

[echo leaf]

yeah, Dryad sells both

[drowsy plank]

i mean that doesnt exactly disprove his point

anything to get items out of shops

[echo leaf]

That's fair

If getting the flowers out of the Dryad's shop is the goal then this is a fantastic QoL change to implement instead

[ripe owl]

Go the Fargo's Mutant way and make them require a dye to be turned into one another

[novel belfry]

i see you have become the new bot in place of Cataclysm. Seems he's fallen on hard times, must be that hard mercenary work

[hollow verge]

@oblique elm you can just buy them from the dryad. theyre inconsistent yes but infinite amounts of them are one EoC fight away

[wintry gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1147269081716752446/1168667354763362375/caption-13.gif

[fervent meadow]

at least this didnt get added over it 😭

[harsh echo]

huge essay failed

[hollow verge]

i cant believe the kites didnt get added smh (this is /j)

[umbral gazelle]

i cant believe "for consistency with vanilla" meta fell off 💔

[drowsy plank]

if you scrolled up 5 messages you would see that people already pointed this out and you didnt need to ping him

[hollow verge]

am i remarkably stupid or is that just not as close by as youre saying

like i did send that message in a delirious half asleep state, so i did scroll up to see if i just missed it. but i dont see it with a bit of scrollin upward

[drowsy plank]

it is right here

[hollow verge]

i am remarkably stupid

i was searching for someone else who'd pinged him and didnt see that

[drowsy plank]

yeah i mean ig they didnt ping him, but as i pointed out
if it gets items out of NPC shops i consider it a net positive

[hollow verge]

really? i always liked items being in shops. makes it easier to acquire them, esp in the case of the roses. i have terrible awful luck getting them

[drowsy plank]

buying items in shops is the lamest way to get an item and feels very much like a bandaid fix to difficult to obtain items from vanilla

the only thing more boring than buying it is a crafting recipe

[hollow verge]

i guess it's just something we see differently, then. i love being able to buy and craft everything. i dont disagree w the shimmer idea to be clear, i think that should be implemented and i'll vote when it goes up, but yknow

different philosophies

[timber hornet]

tbh id rather have crafting recipes than shop items

i love the convenience of shop items but i will admit that it detracts from part of the appeal of playing Terraria, which is exploration

crafting recipes leave that intact, at least

[drowsy plank]

definitely a little, but stuff like shimmer i think is still the strongest solution bc it's what vanilla does

[timber hornet]

yeah

i can get with that

as with a not-insignificant number of things, perhaps the best solution is a bit of column A, a bit of column B

for example, i can't see a way of shimmering things into a pair of Hermes Boots if you somehow haven't found a pair and don't want to go brave the Underground Desert for a pair of Duneriders early game

although then i guess you could make the argument that Desert loot should be able to be shimmered back and forth

so if you get like, an Ancient Chisel, you can shimmer it into a pair of Duneriders

[echo leaf]

I’m planning to suggest wulfrum screwdriver be classified as true melee. Does that have a decent chance of getting any attention behind it?

[drowsy plank]

no idea why it wouldnt

[gray bone]

you could mention wulfrum drill too i think

unless i'm missing something it's inconsistent with other drills getting tmelee

[echo leaf]

Good call too

[whole tundra]

Question, are there already plans to make Demonshade armor have a Rogue Bonus?

[echo leaf]

It's gonna get reworked

Are you planning to suggest it?

[whole tundra]

Yeah

Guess it's not neccessary due to the rework though

[drowsy plank]

there is already a suggestion in voting for that isnt there

[wide river]

This one, yes #suggestions-voting message

[sand marlin]

And this (or #suggestions-discussion message )

Ok no that was just an example nvm

[drowsy plank]

lol

[echo leaf]

yeah, sadly that's not an actual change

Hopefully it is

[whole tundra]

I really need to keep up with suggestions

[ashen warren]

is there any suggestion or a plan to add new tier of olds man army event?

[sand marlin]

Why?

[ashen warren]

idk i think it would be cool to have postmoonlord tier

also sentries after old duke are kinda dry

[sand marlin]

Unfortunately "it would be cool" is not enough reasoning.
Now, lack of sentries can be a good reason but that doesn't really tie in with a 4th tier

I'm pretty sure nobody cares to work with OOA

[ashen warren]

what is ooa?

[sand marlin]

Old One's Army

[ashen warren]

oh

bruh ig im like the only one that likes the event

[sand marlin]

You could suggest to potentially fill up the lack of late sentries but for now the upcoming Sunken Sea Overhaul is gonna have the summoner rebalance so most things to do with summoner won't really be considered at all

[ashen warren]

ig but its still predog summoner

my idea was to make a new tier after dog bc its a event to fill the gap

but yea i get it sentries suck

[sand marlin]

No?

Why did you get that impression

[ashen warren]

i mean they are not bad its just that normal summoner is better

[sand marlin]

Sentries are basically secondary summons

You use both summons and sentries

[ashen warren]

yea they are

[sand marlin]

Not one or the other

[ashen warren]

ik that why i was wondering why there is a gap bc i revisited summoner recendly

[sand marlin]

Likely because sentries are close to one of the most recent subclasses, one of which are whips who are also lacking past Empress for a good reason

[ashen warren]

yea but whips at least have addons i didnt find any sentries

prob bc ppl dont care about them

[sand marlin]

Well I'm not talking about addons

I'm talking about cal

[ashen warren]

ik im just saying

[sand marlin]

Anyway this is pretty much it so if you want more sentries you can try after that update

[ashen warren]

yea ig my idea was just to make post dog sentries

anyways thanks for convo

[echo leaf]

There is one and it sucks

the Atlas Munitions Beacon is pretty bad compared to Cadaverous Carrion

[north oracle]

That's more because Cadaverous is op tbf

Atlas is a weird sentry

[echo leaf]

yeah, that's a valid concern

Hopefully it gets a nerf in SSO

[north oracle]

I'd hope they wouldn't randomly entirely miss a single OD drop

[wintry gale]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-even-funnier-the-second-time-spongebob-spongebob-meme-meme-impact-font-gif-20058612

[river lily]

#suggestions-posting message

Do this please thanks

They're so damn useless otherwise

[echo leaf]

I like the effigies

[sand marlin]

They're not but that would be a pretty interesting way to use them

[echo leaf]

I realize that with wulfrum screwdriver being classified as tmelee it's no longer gonna be decent against DS 😔

[hollow verge]

ive never used the effigies but tbh anything that works like the cirrus candles is good in my opinion.

it makes multiplayer boss fights way more streamlined since i dont have to stop and grab stations, and then just having it everywhere is also nice

[olive saddle]

@dusk island invalid suggestion

1. its a donor weapon. you need permission from the donor to apply this.
2. secondly references suggestions are generally frowned upon no matter how funny

[sharp helm]

Didn't the devs make the Ultrakill pistols play the Minos Prime theme though

[river lily]

I mean that's because it's a reference fabsol himself wanted to add as far as i know

[olive saddle]

^

was never a sugg thing

[sharp helm]

Yeah

It's not a serious point, hence the crossout

[dusk island]

Fair, if I ever get to donate or design a gambling weapon as well, I’m putting that quote there.

[olive saddle]

cant. item donations are closed

[umbral gazelle]

Big Money! Big Money! Big Money! Big Money! no... no... NOOOO

[dusk island]

I’d imagine how my weapon would be like is, it doesn’t fire a lot, it costs 25 gold coins to try to fire, it has like a 5 percent chance of firing but when it does fire HOLY SHIT it does damage.

[sharp helm]

Land every single roll and steamroll Yharon

[dusk island]

That’s why I wanted to put the “LETS GO GAMBLING” quote on it cause the “aw dang it” stuff.

[sharp helm]

"I can't stop winning!"
"I can't stop winning!"
"I can't stop-"

[dusk island]

Yeah they made a third gamble core by the way.

The way my weapon is basically impractical during an actual boss fight, much like the coin gun but if you have the money it does some shit, it probably has a slow firing speed as well.

[dense ferry]

Hey, if you want to know

I literally just forwarded this to Dev because I thought it was really funny

You should still delete it, but be proud that it has a chance of being added

[dusk island]

Okay okay I will.

Wait, this weapon idea or the suggestion quote?

[dense ferry]

The quote

[dusk island]

Ah.

It’s deleted.

[hollow idol]

congratulations, you’re one of the rare individuals who have gotten a deleted and unverified sugg accepted

[dusk island]

HOLY SHIT

[royal tapir]

Let's go gambling

[dusk island]

Wait is the doner chill with it?

[dusk island]

(He is about to lose it all)

[grim tusk]

seems like it

[dusk island]

Oh.

Still I did not expect it to actually go through.

[novel belfry]

i know precisely what video this comes from

i do not know if i will ever respond with 3 reaction images at the same time ever again

[ashen warren]

Aw dangit.

[errant cradle]

first reference suggestion to actually get implemented

monuemental moment in calmain history

[oblique otter]

This person gambled and won

[errant cradle]

i can't stop winning!!!

[umbral gazelle]

[umbral gazelle]

cant wait for "remove the gambling tooltips from the seven striker because its bad for teaching children to gambling" suggestion

[ashen warren]

The Seven's Striker teaches only realistic gambling outcomes. If you have money you win every time and should therefore never stop gambling.

[drowsy plank]

@dawn trout resprites are very blatantly against the suggestion rules

literally the fourth bullet point on the doc

[errant cradle]

All the Scourge weapons already got resprited though, didn't they? They match up pretty well with the resprite already too so I imagine they were resprited while DS' resprite was also a WIP

[drowsy plank]

yes that also

[dawn trout]

Sorry

I forgot 😅

[dawn trout]

Mb

[drowsy plank]

ur fine

[dusk island]

I CANT STOP WINNING

[stable kiln]

🔥

[sand marlin]

Oh my god

[scenic pine]

Huh

What's the reason for this

[short stream]

Not many people use kites? I don't have a clue

[flint notch]

I LOVE GAMBLING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[harsh echo]

129 star reaction

[echo leaf]

I love kites

I need a Devourer of Gods kite

A Storm Weaver kite could summon a thunderstorm

[golden sonnet]

Although I mostly agree with this suggestion, ice golems are kinda just a bad example as you can't do literally anything with its drops until post 1 mech anyway

[echo leaf]

Ice Claspers would be a better example

One of the best pre-mech summons available

[hollow verge]

i was gonna say "just make an artificial biome" but i dont think ice claspers spawn on surface so yknow what. this suggestion has my vote when it goes live.

my very first snow biome was obliterated and it was just lucky that none of us were playing summoner

[hollow verge]

on a slight side note, you can get mythril/adamantite pre-mechs through fishing. so it's not the worst example, but it's not an intuitive one

[sand marlin]

That's a bug

[umbral gazelle]

they do from my last playthrough

[hollow verge]

being able to fish up ores is a bug? its in base game though

[echo leaf]

It's in base game because that's how progression is supposed to go in base game

You beat WoF, you smash three altars, boom adamantite

[hollow verge]

fair enough

[echo leaf]

It's still possible to get hm ores pre-mechs by shimmering perennial post-plantera

[hollow verge]

i thought it was by design considering how balls it is to grind that out anyway

[fervent orbit]

with what pickaxe?

[echo leaf]

Golden Fishing Rod

[fervent orbit]

o right

[echo leaf]

Then just craft the perennial pick

[hollow verge]

with the pickaxe i fished up

asfdjgkdf that was so late

[sand marlin]

It's a bug because enabling early hardmode progression rework config locks them out

[fervent orbit]

i forgot that perennial doesnt work like cryo

[hollow verge]

yeah noob sent a screenshot of the known bugs. like i said i just thought it was genuinely the design of the game, like fab left that there for people who wanted to get sillay

[sand marlin]

Yeap. It just wasn't explained why it was a bug

It also doesn't matter for those who don't use that config in the first place though unadvised

[echo leaf]

Cryonic is weird

[umbral gazelle]

what the hell
:3 emoji

[echo leaf]

:owo:

[misty lichen]

2022 💀

[fervent orbit]

me when the (edited)

[hollow verge]

[buoyant idol]

Do not.

[hallow yoke]

Does anyone know why this appears when creating a map?

[sand marlin]

This isn't quite the right channel for this, try https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/1052323733961977947

[dusk island]

I still can’t believe I got “LETS GO GAMBLING” into calamity mod.

[sand marlin]

@sinful kraken please read the suggestion rules document in #suggestions-posting or in this channel's pins

[drowsy plank]

ok you already did the ping

anyway uh

no joke or references suggestions

[terse crypt]

why would you not want calamity kites
you dont always have to kill supreme calamitas on the same night every playthrough, you can always fly some kites!!

[sleek turret]

It's true

[hollow verge]

poor kites sugg

[sinful kraken]

I’m on phone rn I can’t do any of that fancy stuff

[crude geode]

You. can?

Like, it’s built into discord mobile

Being able to see pins, if that’s what you’re worried about

[novel belfry]

quick question why does this have exclamations

i am genuinely unable to find the issue with this suggestion. is renaming a calamity mechanic banned from suggesting?

[wide river]

Conflict with Rogue rework number 57 or something

[sleek turret]

there are plans to rename stealth to focus or some shit like that

[crude geode]

So true

[novel belfry]

focus, eh?

neat

[sleek turret]

idk really I haven't kept up with this stuff

could be precision or accuracy or chargebar whatever

[worldly sparrow]

holy shit

umm as the certified coin gun guy i like this

[royal tapir]

Congratulations, the joke has gone full circle now

[echo leaf]

I love it

[drowsy plank]

@jade crane calamity is not infernum; if you have issues with infernum, send them in the infernum server

[jade crane]

Sorry, that was a typo

There we go, my bad

[drowsy plank]

doesnt ds already sort of telegraph where it's going to come up from the ground anyway

[jade crane]

Kind of, it alternates between doing its leap and charging. If it charges in a certain direction I was just saying that it should have an indicator on where it will be going

[drowsy plank]

i guess it's fine

[hollow shell]

@drowsy plank @royal tapir (You should inform Tanjiorno why their Stealth suggestion is invalid)

[lucid marsh]

Lore people say that for April fools day you should rename Azafure to Yharopolis

It would be just like old lore name quality

[median scaffold]

Uhh, it probably won't be added anyways

[lucid marsh]

?

[median scaffold]

#suggestions-posting message
This one

[lucid marsh]

Oh

Yeah

[sand marlin]

@hearty jetty there isn't really a way to fix remnants' worldgen issues because you are pretty much cramming a bunch of structures in a large world where there isn't enough space

Also this shouldn't be on suggestions

This would be a mod compat issue on #1052323733961977947

Please read the suggestion rules document before posting a suggestion

[ripe owl]

It can't be a mod compat issue if there is no compatibility with this mod in the first place

(obviously joking)

[sand marlin]

@chrome gulch please read the suggestion rules document before posting a suggestion

[chrome gulch]

why what is wrong i do

[sand marlin]

If you read the document, you will know

[chrome gulch]

which part of the rules exactly, to be sure?

[sand marlin]

Not quite sure how I wanna word this but basically specific ideas and design aren't allowed on suggestions. If you want to contribute via art there is cal art server in #info though
Also, what you posted isn't a suggestion in the first place

Suggestions are for helping improve problems within the mod and as such they also need to explain what is an issue, why it's an issue and only a little bit of direction to how it could be fixed

[chrome gulch]

No, I suggested adding one of the shields that I am about to design, but that's no problem. I will delete the post.

[sand marlin]

That kind of suggestion is exactly what's included in the document for example. A specific item suggestion

[chrome gulch]

so Where can I share my designs?

[sand marlin]

Well the closest thing we have is the cal art server I mentioned above which is mostly used for respriting items and the occasional redesigns if they seem to work well

[chrome gulch]

ok thanks friend

[terse crypt]

calmity sounds like the name of a yoga class calamitas would host

[echo leaf]

I’m fairly sure this breaks at least one suggestion guideline

[umbral gazelle]

@hearty jetty are you sure it was calamity's problem? if no you should contact remnant mod dev instead

[stable kiln]

to all players that read this post
please vote it up

[golden sonnet]

[oblique otter]

I would, but how

[tiny glen]

right next to her own seafood restaurant, Clamity

[sand marlin]

Please do not advertise your suggestion or complain about its star amount, these channels are meant to gauge public reaction passively. Feel free to repost in a weeks time if you feel timing was the issue.

[timber hornet]

Whoops, my bad, forgor about that part

[timber hornet]

i thought this was serious until i realized it was a shitpost

[terse crypt]

mmmm giant clamitas 😋

[harsh echo]

NO WAYYY

[grim tusk]

Funnilly we already gave Remnants support so it doesnt eat Cal structures; altho due to how it works Remnants will always be breaking with any mod that does worldgen

@terse crypt Stealth has already a planned rename called Focus

It will happen once rogue is reworked

[echo leaf]

Oh, neato!

[grim tusk]

That its happening after the summoner rebalancing/rework

Some reworked weapons

[redacted]

And many more

[coral carbon]

Which is happening in 6-7 business days

[fervent orbit]

ruin medallion lines death hopefully

[echo leaf]

rad

[hearty jetty]

ok thanks for telling me

[grave zinc]

@ashen warren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Resprite the Supreme witch Calamitas vanity.]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[hearty jetty]

remnant states that the mods that confict with it have some sort of conflict with the mod so the problem could be solved on both sides i think

[grave zinc]

@wintry gale - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Change crimson effigy buff background]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@golden sonnet - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Move Dirtiest Block Generation After Calamity Structures]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[wintry gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/926452470417354774/1074101789621751859/freeze.gif

[oblique otter]

o cool the bot is back

[sand marlin]

No it's not

@ ench kill the bot iIrc..

[oblique otter]

woah..

unfair

[wide river]

Ture

[terse crypt]

aight

good to know
finally rogue makes more sense

[terse crypt]

i use remnants with calamity and im facing zero problems

maybe its an infernum thing

[golden sonnet]

Are there any plans to buff reaver builder that came of the discussion here? or should I make a suggestion on that

and in a similar note, are there any plans to change fathom swarmer armor?

[fervent orbit]

i think we should blow up fathom swarmer (ive not heard any plans about it at all)

[distant gyro]

yes fathom swarmer changes

no to reaver builder buff but you dont really need to make a suggestion if you point out what to buff i might just consider it idk

[echo leaf]

what're the fathom swarmer changes gonna be like? at least let me try out the fat summoner build first!

[harsh echo]

20% more cute

[median scaffold]

Make Fathom Swarmer into Omega Blue version 0.5 for summoners (totally a good idea)

[wide river]

The changes are ||stats being changed||

[golden sonnet]

I talked about it with shade already, but the main issue is in it's comparison to marnite.
**Reaver: **
Block Range: 4
Tile Speed: 40% (wiki says 20% but that is just not true)
Wall speed: 40% (wiki says 20% but that is just not true)
Marnite:
Block and tool Range: 5
Tile Speed: 50%

[harsh echo]

cook

[harsh echo]

how did this balance happen

[golden sonnet]

So although reaver has wall speed while marnite doesn't, marnite has more reach and tool reach as well. Due to how easily you hit the mining cap, the mining speed from reaver also does very little. Reaver doesn't need to be better, but imo should at least be made on par with tool range and block speed with marnite

[median scaffold]

ReAvEr Is MoRe DeFeNsE, DuHh!11!

[distant gyro]

swarm

er

[wide river]

Swarmer? I hardly kn-

[golden sonnet]

TLDR, Reaver could use 1 block more of range, or at least make its 4 range into tool range too, and could also use a 10% placement boost on blocks and possibly walls

[median scaffold]

...uhh, maybe Marnite should have a slight nerf, too?

[harsh echo]

why nerf a building set

[fervent orbit]

marnite powercreeped reaver

[golden sonnet]

This is an option, but as a builder I think we deserve fun things and marnite isn't super broken. Building powercreep isn't a real thing anyway tbh, who cares if people place 11000 walls faster

[wide river]

Marnite buff with 90000% increased building speed when

[median scaffold]

Btw, are we talking about Reaver Headgear?

[wide river]

Yea, headgear

[north oracle]

bast statue mentioned in a sugg rahhh

[median scaffold]

Maybe Reaver should become a 50/50 set of builder and exploration?
It's already has some nice features for that (mainly the orb and some buffs to the abyss exploration), but making Marnite 2.0 is an option

[median scaffold]

How is the suggestion, at least?

[distant gyro]

sounds like a quick and easy thing though i think it mightve been intentional since reaver does a bit more than marnite

[north oracle]

i see nothing wrong with it, seems pretty sensible lol

[distant gyro]

though some of the things in there are probably less useful than others like breath restoration for some reason

[echo leaf]

but don't give it wall placement speed

[median scaffold]

Sure then, I'll go and wait for 2 weeks or smth, and will pray I won't be outclassed by "make auric poop" suggestion

[golden sonnet]

True, but as a builder, I am never choosing it over marnite. And due to how fast you hit the mining cap, unless you want the breath or light from the set bonus, marnite is still better for mining due to +5 pick range

[median scaffold]

Okay, make it +6 tool / pickup range and maybe buff the exploration stuff a little (breath restoration is funny, literally a somewhat early-game accessory)

[distant gyro]

im thinking of replacing breath restoration with item pickup range

[golden sonnet]

the breath is actually really good in abyss tbh, and as stated I don't think reaver need more than marnite, just to be equal

[distant gyro]

and ig just default gills

[golden sonnet]

honestly that sounds amazing, pickup range is only changed by like 2 items total and is very good to have

[drowsy plank]

oh god item pickup range reminds me of how we were going to get some item to replace the lore item item pickup range buffs and it just

never materialized

[distant gyro]

wait it already does this

just not a lot

+1.25 tiles

[dense locust]

(for reference, treasure magnet gives almost 10 extra tiles of reach and is obtained about 10 bosses earlier)

[olive saddle]

TEN???

[drowsy plank]

wall of flesh, plantera, and polter old lore item effects.,.,.,.,.

[olive saddle]

I miss old Yharon lore item

[drowsy plank]

i dont the rest of the lore items were fucking goofy

[olive saddle]

Cryo dash was good

Rest were kinda shit

[golden sonnet]

king slime funnies tho

[drowsy plank]

which is just ornate shield now

do you mean slime god raesh

[olive saddle]

Oh slime gods was incredibly funny

[drowsy plank]

that's the one other lore item i actually miss other than the pickup range buffs

[frail mantle]

Golem lore

[olive saddle]

The dash without an accessory was good

[drowsy plank]

good for meta doesn't mean well designed

[golden sonnet]

was slime god the slidy? thought it was king slime

[drowsy plank]

slime god

[frail mantle]

Yes

[golden sonnet]

guess I misremembered

[drowsy plank]

i was just looking at the page

lol

[golden sonnet]

I loved slidy boi

[olive saddle]

I dont know if it was even meta it was mostly fun. Was it meta?

[drowsy plank]

i dunno how it was more "fun" than the other dashes, but besides exactly rams for being rams; yeah cryo lore invalidated like any other kind of dash

and it was only like

10 def penalty

[dense locust]

king slime was like -3 defense increased movement speed

or something

[olive saddle]

I only cared abt it for the fact that it was a dash. 2.0.3 default dash is how I treated it. Also that's unfortunate it was broken as shit but at least we have default dash in its steed

[distant gyro]

decided to buff both

marnite gains wall speed as well (and also 3 defense so that it matches wood at least )
reaver gains 7 block range for all, 50% placement speed, and pickup range increased from 3.875 to 18

[golden sonnet]

any way reaver could get tool range too?

like marnite

oh

you said All

I see

[echo leaf]

YIPEEE

[median scaffold]

7 blocks for all

Reaver is Marnite 2.5
Congrats, people, we Raesh made it

[echo leaf]

I am so excited about this information

[royal tapir]

7 blocked messages

[distant gyro]

relogic variable names

[golden sonnet]

reading moment Thanks Altix, that sounds incredible tbh, currently I never use reaver and now I'll never part with it

[median scaffold]

From who?

[distant gyro]

blockRange = blocks

tileRange = everything

[golden sonnet]

ye

[royal tapir]

Nefarious variables

[fervent orbit]

thanks red from redigit

[distant gyro]

nefarious naming

[echo leaf]

oh did red give them Naughty names

[crude geode]

Notorious R.E.D.

[golden sonnet]

Thanks again Altix, nice to have some better building options, and happy to have skipped the voting que to save space for others

that way noob doesn't kill me

[royal tapir]

noob is stinky anyway

[frail mantle]

This is true, can confirm

[olive saddle]

30 mile stink radius

[fervent orbit]

UR STINKY

[olive saddle]

Shower react this woman

[frail mantle]

On it boss

[fervent orbit]

@frail mantle i can smell YOUR stink from here

[frail mantle]

I showered earlier

Bitch !

[fervent orbit]

thats a lie

[frail mantle]

You’re just a hater

SMH.

[echo leaf]

So called "free-thinkers" when they see 🚿

[median scaffold]

Free stinkers

[frail mantle]

It’s deserved

[harsh echo]

LMAO

[olive saddle]

Stinky and proud

[median scaffold]

I washed today

[echo leaf]

Update V2.0.4.004: if your name is noob you get the stinky debuff permanently

[frail mantle]

Calamity if it was good

[olive saddle]

Terraria shower mod

[median scaffold]

GFB change: you explore whenever you try to touch water or any other liquid (includes water particles in oxygen )

[olive saddle]

YOU EXPLORE??

[median scaffold]

Yes, you explore

[olive saddle]

Me uncontrollably exploring the 3 block deep pond

[median scaffold]

...after 3 hours, you mine up to the abyss. Checkmate

[ashen warren]

Tempting.

[fervent orbit]

no

[echo leaf]

would something like that make the nurse charge you more? even though it probably won't get cleared?

[distant gyro]

i do not support such actions

but i also wont stop it

[fervent orbit]

[hollow verge]

i play dnd a lot and GFB is shorthand of a spell in that game and i was real confused reading this

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Update the Void Shrine Chest's Contents]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[distant gyro]

that was a pretty old one

[drowsy plank]

no kidding

before i was a mod i think

lmao

[golden sonnet]

Ok but when's this one getting in

#suggestions-voting message

[golden sonnet]

Crazy

[olive saddle]

#suggestions-voting message

hang on

is this the guy that made silver bullets deal 3x damage to wearwolves in normal terraria

specific number makes me think so

[lucid marsh]

Am I allowed to make gfb suggestions

Because I think it would be really funny if Azafure was renamed to Yharopolis in gfb

[oblique otter]

no

[lucid marsh]

Sad

[olive saddle]

#suggestions-voting message

also this guy looks lke the fandom spriter

could be wrong

[grave zinc]

@golden sonnet - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Move Dirtiest Block Generation After Calamity Structures]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[glass arch]

dirtiest planetoid 🔥

[coral carbon]

Like always with such fire suggestions being implemented

I can't wait until Fabsol posts some new info about the changes in an upcoming update on #changelogs

[sand marlin]

@slender hemlock please read the suggestion rules document before posting a suggestion

Basically, new boss suggestions are a hard no

[slender hemlock]

What did I mess up

[slender hemlock]

Ohhh

[slender hemlock]

Is that better

?

[sand marlin]

Well no, firstly it barely explains or elaborates anything
Secondly, that is a pretty specific item suggestion which is also not allowed

Please just read the document

These are all explained there

[whole tundra]

@storm hill read the pins

[oblique otter]

fun.

[umbral gazelle]

@storm hill the lorde is already in the mod.

[storm hill]

what i meant by that was it getting a spawn item only on april 1st

[umbral gazelle]

making it available one day a year is bad.

therefore they made it available for everyday a year

[ripe owl]

Something something no joke suggestions

[storm hill]

oh alright, im sorry... didn't know that being a normal human trying to make a joke was bad, it wont happen again

[odd geyser]

the lorde is in gfb

right

[echo leaf]

Yeah, at all times

[ripe owl]

Make jokes in here, not in the actual sugg posting channels

[echo leaf]

The spawn item drops in postgame and can be used anywhere, I do believe

[storm hill]

sure, sure

[odd geyser]

john sure

[median scaffold]

Jokes on you
I'm gonna joke all over the #suggestions-posting

[golden sonnet]

Calamity is officially good

[river lily]

[river lily]

John Joke...

John Humour

[hollow verge]

i kinda like the big stealth bar 🧍‍♂️ i like visibility

but i think rogue is due for reworking all in all innit

[odd geyser]

Humourous John Joker

[echo leaf]

Rogue is getting reworked in the future

[umbral gazelle]

you want to be a normal being in calamity mod discord server? genuinely?

[echo leaf]

Be ‘normal’ and beg for Yharim update in calamity mod talk

[storm hill]

🫥

[odd geyser]

Brothersmithferrington said 🫥 because he thinks the joke is unfunny (it kinda is unfunny, actually)

[umbral gazelle]

sorry but i got pm brainrotted into thinking that this is abnormality form limbus company

[sand marlin]

@uncut prism please read the suggestion rules document before posting a suggestion

[echo leaf]

This is the definition of a sis

[errant cradle]

(This is a specific item suggestion. Those are against the suggestion rules)

[sand marlin]

AKA specific item suggestion

[uncut prism]

well, i gave reasons for why it's useful

[drowsy plank]

hello calamity devs please add my minecraft weapon smile

[flint notch]

Devs can’t just add any weapon that shows up in suggestions

[echo leaf]

If you want a weapon to fit a niche, suggest something be added to fill it

[uncut prism]

well, i didn't have an attack concept at first, i made it specifialy for the Cal Suggestion, the design however is from my MC cosmetic yes

[flint notch]

A+ for effort tho you almost had me sold with that formatting im ngl

[drowsy plank]

i kind of want to delete this it's so big and intrusive

[echo leaf]

Leave the devs to find the details

[royal tapir]

Please do

[drowsy plank]

evaporated

anyway

[flint notch]

I wanted to copy its text tho..

[drowsy plank]

if you want it zara i can screenshot it in delete log lol

[uncut prism]

but it's litterally a suggestion channel, why providing pictures (making the message big) is a bad thing ?

[flint notch]

BRO IT WAS CONVINCING IM NOT GONNA LIE YO

But yeah

[whole tundra]

You posted a SIS

[fervent orbit]

it wasnt even just the images

[uncut prism]

while Yes the design comes from my mc Cosmetic, i adapted it to Cal for the suggestion

[whole tundra]

Which is against the suggestion rules

[errant cradle]

It's not the screenshots specifically

The entire thing just doesn;t follow the rules that are in place

[umbral gazelle]

making long lengthy text isnt a bad thing as long as its not against a rule(the only downside is people wont read it)​

[uncut prism]

they said you need reasons for why adding it, i gave reasons

[fervent orbit]

its the fact that u spaced less than one sentence comments to have large spacings between

yknow it fuck it

[whole tundra]

Specific Item Suggestion

[uncut prism]

ik

[errant cradle]

You did give reasons but suggesting a specific item to be implemented with tis much detail is against the rules

[drowsy plank]

LOL

[whole tundra]

If you knew that, you should not have suggested it

[echo leaf]

Yep

[fervent orbit]

heres LITERALLY

copy pasted from the rules doc

[drowsy plank]

we really posting the whole ass rule here

[fervent orbit]

YES

[uncut prism]

The problem: There must be a concrete reason for this content to be added or reworked.
Otherwise, the suggestion does not hold water.

[errant cradle]

You didn't have to paste the entire text wall noob

Don't make things more chaotic here

[whole tundra]

!warn @ noob text wall

[sand marlin]

Just let one person handle this tbh yeah

[drowsy plank]

i am gonna delete it

just bc

large message

anyway

[echo leaf]

SIS 😔

[drowsy plank]

@uncut prism why not just ask for more melee weapons at Distortion Boss tier

[echo leaf]

Great effort though

[whole tundra]

TRUEEE

[fervent orbit]

^

[umbral gazelle]

whats even distortion boss tier

[drowsy plank]

like you identified a possible problem you just didn't actually come up with a solution

[fervent orbit]

you neednt suggest design, function nor name

[drowsy plank]

post-Provi pre-Polter

[uncut prism]

because i also really wanted this concept to be in, did you even read the concept ?

[drowsy plank]

no, of course not, because specific item suggestions are not allowed

it's not your job to design the weapon

[fervent orbit]

why would it matter if they read the concept

[echo leaf]

The devs can’t add everything cool in

[fervent orbit]

again

[echo leaf]

They have enough on their plate

[fervent orbit]

you dont need to have the concept in it

[umbral gazelle]

mhmmokayyy

[whole tundra]

They should add Dark Matter boss smh

[echo leaf]

YOO

DO THIS IMMEDIATELY pls fabsol

[umbral gazelle]

wait so a bosses summoned with rune of kos are distortion bosses?

[whole tundra]

yes

[fervent orbit]

yes

theyre tied to the distortion

[umbral gazelle]

oh

[royal tapir]

Dark Matter Sheath miniboss

[uncut prism]

well i still find that rule weird, obviously they wouldn't add a lot, but they could get very good suggestions that way

[whole tundra]

Distortion Trio

DoG got bullied out :(

[echo leaf]

We all know DoG would just eat one of them to get his special spot back

[drowsy plank]

not really
if there's a tier that needs a weapon they can just design it themselves

[echo leaf]

They may have a weapon plan in the works and they can just balance it to fit the tier they need it in

[drowsy plank]

that also

[echo leaf]

Less work, more good

[uncut prism]

but accepting a bit of desgins of other people would still be a nice thing

[echo leaf]

They already did do that with patreon commissions

[drowsy plank]

yeah and they did it for three years and it was the majority of suggestions and they mostly sucked

[echo leaf]

They haven’t done it lately, presumably because they’re developing 1/3 of the game all over again

[flint notch]

It’s very very easy to ideas-guy, but actual effort and time and hours have to be put in to make those ideas come to fruition

[errant cradle]

There's also a large backlog of patreon content that just hasn't been implemented yet

[uncut prism]

that's why i said a bit of them

[fervent orbit]

and thats exactly why its a rule

[echo leaf]

Accepting some ideas means allowing all ideas

[fervent orbit]

to just say theyre all not allowed is easier to try and make exceptions

[echo leaf]

It’ll lead to spam in the suggestion posting channel of mostly crap

[uncut prism]

well you can't try to make exceptions if they all get instantly deleted

[echo leaf]

Because it’s easier to disallow them completely

[drowsy plank]

yes exactly

[fervent orbit]

the point is that theyre not making exceptions

[flint notch]

So the payout is.. not too great, especially not for everyone’s suggestion, you can’t just say they can only take some ideas because yeah, what’s the gauge? Whats the filter? There isn’t one.

[drowsy plank]

we're not trying to make exceptions because it's a pain in the ass

[echo leaf]

^

[flint notch]

Zamn my WiFi sucks rn

[echo leaf]

I’m sorry you put all this effort in just for it to be dead on arrival, but there’s a reason for it

[uncut prism]

why ? because people are like "hEy, He gOT hIS wEaPON iN aND nOT mE ?"

people don't understand what exceptions are ?

[drowsy plank]

have you read anything people have been saying for the past 5 minutes

[fervent orbit]

#suggestions-discussion message

[echo leaf]

It’ll be unfair and too subjective to shoot down some SIS and allow others

[drowsy plank]

also i did take a look at the suggestion and honestly it just seems like a bit more fancy brimstone sword at storm weaver tier
also i think the main reason that the sentinels dont drop melee weapons is because post-Provi already has 13 melee weapons at base

[echo leaf]

For ease and civility, none of them are okay.

[uncut prism]

well the filter is if devs find it nice, that should be it, if people don't understand that it's kind of their fault

[drowsy plank]

of couse that doesn't excuse ranger have like. 19. but whatever

the filter is that none of them are let in because it's a waste of the developers time

they'd much rather just make the ideas themselves

if a dev really likes the idea i dunno maybe they'll add it themselves if they come in here and bother to check, but the main point is they'd rather figure this stuff out in house and also like

calamity has enough content as is???

[fervent orbit]

Specific and particular new items were a popular suggestion in the past, but statistics showed that they were almost never implemented. They had the potential to be very extensive and drown out other suggestions. Instead of suggesting that a specific item be added with all its stats and functionality specified, you should explain the problem with there not being a certain kind of item in a certain place, and explain how adding such an item would solve that problem and improve the mod.

[echo leaf]

^

[uncut prism]

well yeah i spent 2 damn hours but i undersant the reason why it's not accepted

[uncut prism]

but devs can't see ideas if they get deleted though

i understand why it got deleted, just wondering about that part

[echo leaf]

A dev already saw this idea

[drowsy plank]

you say as if CIT wasn't the person who asked me to delete it

regardless if they dont want to see it they dont need to

the possibility of an SIS getting in because a dev saw it and actually liked the idea is astronomically low

so there's not really a point in letting them remain

because as noob said previously most were never added and drowned out other suggestions

[echo leaf]

It was deleted because it was very large, very extensive, has no chance of going anywhere, and drowned out other suggestions which might go somewhere

[drowsy plank]

there

something in the spirit of the suggestion at least

[echo leaf]

Maybe some of the weapons should just have their method of obtaining changed to require their drops

[drowsy plank]

well the problem is none of them really fit those bosses

im sure some could be reworked as such though

perhaps when uelibloom dies lifehunt scythe could get moved to signus or something

it is a scythe after all

[gritty plaza]

Uelibloom's dying?

[golden sonnet]

yes, and becoming something else

based on profaned ash iirc

as providence doesn't really have life or jungle ties, so it's weird she just spawns a plant ore

[echo leaf]

Yeah, I always thought it was odd

[hollow verge]

i had an extrermly elaborate dream about the "change the corruption effigy bg" and reasons why it was a bad sugg. mind you i dont have an opinion on that sugg, it seems reasonable enough to implement. ... and it wasnt even correct info to argue against it with.

anyway i like the idea of giving more weapons for the distortion trio. i legit only ever fight them to make cosmic worm summon, and like. the summoner item off signus. so this would be nice.

i just kinda go right to polty for the terror blade

[flint notch]

mmm i could imagine new signus sword becoming some kinda melee wep ig

[errant cradle]

how much time do you have to spend in suggestions to start dreaming about em

[hollow verge]

dude ive been having insane dreams lately. i think its my cold.

[oblique otter]

I'm not the only one camping in #suggestions-posting , that's good news.

[gray bone]

my dreams do go wild when i'm ill tbf

[hollow verge]

i fought 3d WoF as a fps in one of my dreams.

[errant cradle]

anyways i agree

signus scythe would go hard

[hollow verge]

i love the idea of a signus scythe

[ashen warren]

👆

[flint notch]

spectre knight type weapon

would be so peak

[drowsy plank]

like i said

lifehunt is a perfect candidate to be moved when ueli dies

[ashen warren]

wait when will ueli die?

[golden sonnet]

sometime in the future

possibly with the addition of a profaned biome, possibly not

[golden sonnet]

is a giant pearl rework planned with SSO (or later) or should I make a suggestion. As I have some ideas on it and it needs help

[fervent orbit]

is it not meant to be cosmic kunai?

[flint notch]

i think its a sword

because the stickers of all things showcase both seperately

i would know i noticed like an hour ago

[echo leaf]

Also mention that a player that gets the Aquatic Heart may see that it does nothing and sell it, not knowing it only becomes useful post-Skeletron

[median scaffold]

Yeah, I wanted to check if Aquatic Heart has any tooltip about being useable only post-Skeletron
But should I make this another suggestion?

[echo leaf]

It doesn’t really need another tooltip if it gets moved to post-Skeletron but if the devs insist on keeping the same effect dynamic, then yeah. It needs a tooltip

Could be something like “Its true power is sealed by a despotic dungeon undead.”

[echo leaf]

I’m sure the devs can be more creative than that, though

[median scaffold]

Yeah, I thought about making another description, like:

Equipable
Transforms the user into a water elemental
"The line about being useable fully only post-Skeletron"
And after killing it, the full discription appears

[echo leaf]

Yeah, makes sense

[median scaffold]

Specify when Aquatic Heart's full power can be used

At the moment, the game doesn't do anything to indicate when the player can use Aquatic Heart as a standalone accessory and not as a vanity one with a lot of pretty much useless text. This is especially confusing to the newer players, who, most oftenly, don't have enough game or Wiki knowledge.

[echo leaf]

Looks fine enough to me

[median scaffold]

Should I just send this suggestion and not add another paragraph to the "Aquatic Heart's obtainability" one?

[echo leaf]

Yeah, make a new suggestion

[median scaffold]

Btw, I had another idea of moving it to ocean chests (keeping it post-Skeletron, tho) or even to the dungeon itself (maybe as a chest loot or a drop from one of the skeletons)

[echo leaf]

Ocean chests might not even exist in a world and the dungeon doesn’t make terribly much sense

[drowsy plank]

wait aquatic heart definitely used to mention only being post skele

did something change

[median scaffold]

Okay, the dungeon part is justifiable, but... ocean chests just don't spawn??

Why?

[golden sonnet]

it does mention it

[median scaffold]

I'll go and check it

[echo leaf]

Are you talking about the chests in the ocean or the chests that spawn underground in water?

[median scaffold]

Aren't they the same type of chests?

[golden sonnet]

they are yes

[echo leaf]

I don’t know how they generate, but they are less common than gold chests

[median scaffold]

Well, if so, maybe the ocean chests (and unerground ones in water) aren't a bad idea, after all

[golden sonnet]

ocean loot is in crates anyway

[echo leaf]

I think they might be golden chests that happen to be generated underwater

[golden sonnet]

so not like it's limited

[median scaffold]

Oh, yeah, ocean crates exist

[drowsy plank]

okay so going off of this @median scaffold your suggestion is just incorrect

unless im missing something?

[median scaffold]

Give me a second, I'll check that ingame and if so, I'll delete the suggestion

[golden sonnet]

that's straight from the localization file

[drowsy plank]

that's- yeah

[golden sonnet]

so

[drowsy plank]

it's from the code

[median scaffold]

Yeah

Deleted

[echo leaf]

Good suggestion

I didn’t use my QoL mods to get forbidden fragments the easy way and it was a headache waiting for a sandstorm

[errant wind]

Yes

Less common kinda by a lot

[sleek turret]

peak suggs

[median scaffold]

Which one?

[median scaffold]

#suggestions-posting message
Okay, I just want to ask — are there any other problems anyone have with this suggestion?

[sleek turret]

All of them.

calamity barsif they were goood they would come with 3 style variations

[distant gyro]

mayb

[sleek turret]

circular stealth bar around the player

og adrenaline and rage bars styles

sulphur The toxicity of our city of our city breath style indicator

[lucid marsh]

Stealth is weird as a mechanic because it has nothing to do with actually being stealthy or the opponent knowing where you are most of the time, from what I've heard

I've never used it out of principle that I think calamity never should have added a rogue class and all it's weapons and equipment should be either melee or ranged.

...I have rambled about this before I think

[sleek turret]

yea that's wht they're renaming it to focus i think

[fleet grotto]

^

[sleek turret]

stealth is more on the side of the silly shroomite and vortex ranger sets Special mechanic

[distant gyro]

psycho knife for some reason

[sleek turret]

yea

[lucid marsh]

Yeah those ones are actually interesting

[misty lichen]

stealth (ranger): stay completely still, your character turns translucent and your damage is arbitrarily increased
stealth (rogue): stay completely still, your character turns translucent and your damage is arbitrarily increased

[lucid marsh]

Kinda weird, but at least they're actually stealth

[dense locust]

for one attack*

[distant gyro]

well you figured out why stealth was called stealth

and also why it wont be

[novel belfry]

what if
we combined the Siren Heart suggestion
with:#suggestions-discussion message

[dense locust]

"get to the bottom of the abyss, get an item that lets you survive better in the abyss"
what

[novel belfry]

lmao

[fervent orbit]

there are 4 different kinds of stealth in calamity

[umbral gazelle]

hi can i have a keelhaul donor username

[distant gyro]

• emphasis on standing isn't too fun
• stealth damage multipliers and super complex formula plague the mechanic with misleading numbers that you cant trust
• unestablished until you pick up an armour despite getting weapons earlier than that
• the depth of the mechanic only really spans to making one powerful attack and nothing else

thats kinda the crux of the stealth move

[drowsy plank]

i hope that if rogue stealth is changed that other kinds of "stealth" are also looked at

[golden sonnet]

I think vortex stealth is good as it's a toggle, psycho knife is fun for shenanigans, imo the only problem one is shroomite

[distant gyro]

shroomite stealth idr care for

[fleet grotto]

what is this message linking to

[distant gyro]

i feel like shroomite's main mechnic is subclass boosting

[fleet grotto]

discord mobile sucks

[distant gyro]

its what people know the armor for

[fleet grotto]

it's not linking to it

[sand marlin]

There's also a funny thing with stat meter where your damage stat is shown with the stealth strike bonus combined so you can never actually check your damage stat properly

[dense locust]

the best stealth mechanic in terraria is vortex stealth

[drowsy plank]

yeah that's like. the problem. it fucking sucks and no one uses it because it's bad

[fleet grotto]

nice

[drowsy plank]

you use it for the helmet boosts

that's why it should probably be changed

[sand marlin]

In singleplayer yeah

[drowsy plank]

yeah fair

[misty lichen]

it’s not bad

it’s boring

it is extremely strong if you know what ur doing

[drowsy plank]

when i say bad that doesnt mean it isnt strong

it's bad because it's lame and i hate it

it's a bad mechanic

[fleet grotto]

just like rogue wtf

[fervent orbit]

dont get me STARTED on vortex stealth

[wide river]

Ok I won't

[sand marlin]

🐟

[sleek turret]

see it was innovative at the time and relogic practically not bothered to touch it since then

[fervent orbit]

u can literally use any hover wings (guess what vortex boosters have) and theres LITERALLY NO SPEED PENALTY

[misty lichen]

dont fish me……

[fervent orbit]

WHAT

[umbral gazelle]

@BradenHajer

[wide river]

(You might want to modmail about this if you haven't already, it'd be much easier and a bit more efficient than asking here)

[umbral gazelle]

FISH THIS INDIVIDUAL

[umbral gazelle]

mhmmkay

[sand marlin]

Byeah by a certain fish I mean a very very certain fish

That maybe has a funny interaction

[wide river]

Of course, the Pufferfish from Terraria 1.4.5

[sand marlin]

💥

[fervent orbit]

(edited)

[sand marlin]

-# edited

[sleek turret]

pufferfish balloon item

[median scaffold]

-# didn't fucking edited it, bruh

[fervent orbit]

_ _

[median scaffold]

Edit it

[distant gyro]

didnt say anything about this one but i dont think it fits

[median scaffold]

GFB ass change

[distant gyro]

gfb has a

gas trap in it already

[wide river]

But does it have b

[median scaffold]

You......

[misty lichen]

insane that they fixed this for like all of summoner all the way back in 1.3 and then never did anything about it again

[dense locust]

wait it does?

[median scaffold]

Okay, just wanna know, anything wrong with Aquatic Heart's suggestion?

[fervent orbit]

wtf whyd anahita abandon her child

[distant gyro]

no

[median scaffold]

Releases gas when you open the chest

[dense locust]

ah

[median scaffold]

Why won't she?

[median scaffold]

Okay, I'll wait then
Thanks for answering (if it was addressed to me)

[distant gyro]

chances are aquatic heart will just be an anahita thing directly and changed and buffed etc

[buoyant idol]

#suggestions-voting message ☹️

[fervent orbit]

4 years ago

👴

[distant gyro]

yeah but its not gonna give abyss materials silly

[hollow shell]

Oh damn the old bot is gone?

[fervent orbit]

yeah it was replaced sometime

[buoyant idol]

Watching me talk then was awful to scroll through for 15 minutes. This is why underage users aren't allowed on Discord. For reference, I'm over 13 now so don't worry.

[fervent orbit]

its been the same ever since ive been here tho

[distant gyro]

if you were curious just look at other shrines

[median scaffold]

Looks like a better place for it rather than whatever is happening with ??? involvement

[misty lichen]

the hote in question

[hollow shell]

(Aquatic Heart =/= Pearl of Enthrallment)

[fervent orbit]

wat about hote

yeah

theyre seperate things entirely

[misty lichen]

isnt hote also getting reworked i mean

[distant gyro]

yes

[fervent orbit]

yea?

[median scaffold]

HoTE rework?1?1!1??1

[fervent orbit]

again

wat about hote

[median scaffold]

Harem is actually useful now?

[fervent orbit]

theyre seperate things

[distant gyro]

but also unrelated i think

[hollow shell]

I could have also told you "Yes" about 3 or 4 years ago.

[median scaffold]

From being good to utterly useless, isn't it?

[fervent orbit]

i wouldnt be surprised if no one wants to touch hote and its components

[median scaffold]

SansWaifu name existence...

[distant gyro]

id do it

maybe

[hollow shell]

As in, Ozz and I wrote up a plan for reworking HotE, back then

[fervent orbit]

5 accessories that u have to somehow make unique and usable on tier, but also usable when combined

[hollow shell]

Oh my god it was back when non-Waifu accs were in the item like Bloom Stone

[fervent orbit]

[median scaffold]

Why not?

[fervent orbit]

reminds me that bloom stone needs to be either blown up or reworked to something interesting

right now it may as well be as good as band of regen

im not even joking

[distant gyro]

i do remember the stones rework yeah

[median scaffold]

Please, for the sake of God, if there's any, bring Earth Elemental as an accessory to this game

We need this chad

[distant gyro]

no

[median scaffold]

[hollow shell]

One of the oldest Frequent suggestions known to man

[golden sonnet]

I still think earth elemental should just be removed

[median scaffold]

What does it do, tho?

[distant gyro]

earth elemental is too chad to follow your demands

[fervent orbit]

it gives 3 life regen during the night, only if ur standing on the ground

during the day its 6 but still

u have to be on the ground

[golden sonnet]

sand elemental is supposed to be the earth elemental anyway and bro is just there

[fervent orbit]

youre post plantera ur not on the ground half the time

[median scaffold]

Let me follow his demands
(Imagine HoTE, but the player)

[hollow shell]

How the hell

[median scaffold]

Basically, Photosynthesis potion

[fervent orbit]

earth elemental isnt in hote because he isnt a real elemental

[median scaffold]

He is a chad, after all

Why would he be one?

[hollow shell]

Post-rewrite lore literally justifying his uninclusion

[median scaffold]

I don't know the lore
His lore for me is being chad

[golden sonnet]

doesn't even remove the regen soft cap when not using items/moving either, unlike photosynthesis potions

[fervent orbit]

just explaining why he isnt like the other elementals in general

[median scaffold]

And literally the only male elemental for no reason

[hollow shell]

(not counting the vanilla ones)

[fervent orbit]

granite, chaos and ice elementals are of unambigious gender

[golden sonnet]

like, even this wouldn't make it good, but it's funny that it doesn't do this when like, demonshade armor does for some reason

[wide river]

[median scaffold]

Demonshade is post-game

[median scaffold]

...those are female, right?

[golden sonnet]

oh nvm, demonshade has a regen effect so it makes sense

forgot that existed ngl

[misty lichen]

ok if we can’t get earth can we at least turn one of them male in the rework

please

[fervent orbit]

theyre not gonna be just the elemental

[median scaffold]

Uhh...

Maybe rare sand elemental?

[hollow shell]

Rare Sand is prolly best candidate if something like that happens yeah

[fervent orbit]

i wouldnt be surprised if rose stone (i think thats brimmys acc?) is going to be something like a brimmling

[golden sonnet]

elemental men are more rare than women confirmed

[wide river]

Granite and Ice are not even vaguely humanoid (you can't give gender to what is just a rock)
That's the reason I cluelessed

[distant gyro]

rse is

hmm

[hollow shell]

Steven Universe joke

[distant gyro]

something

[wide river]

True

[median scaffold]

The internet has a gender for everything

And I'm scared because of this

[distant gyro]

tell that to the linguists that made gendered pronouns and slapped it on everything

[median scaffold]

Men don't have an origin, that's the reason they are men in the first place

[golden sonnet]

huh?

[wide river]

Also Noob you said "unambiguous", which meant you were saying they had a clear gender

[golden sonnet]

wdym don't have an origin

[golden sonnet]

they do wdym

[median scaffold]

Элементаль is male in russian

[echo leaf]

France

Yet another reason to hate it

[fervent orbit]

fuc k

[hollow shell]

I was tempted to mention that but I got what they meant

[fervent orbit]

i forgot to put

a negative before it

trust me im british

i swear

[median scaffold]

Is rare sand elemental an enemy?

[fervent orbit]

i know english

[wide river]

Being British makes me not trust you

[golden sonnet]

ununambiguous

[fervent orbit]

thats not wat i meant

[median scaffold]

big

[fervent orbit]

[hollow shell]

anyway I think we're getting off track

[wide river]

Anyway

[median scaffold]

Any

[fervent orbit]

anyway i think im going to blow up the suggestions bot

[median scaffold]

[hollow shell]

Was there any suggestion planned

[wide river]

How did we get here exactly

[hollow shell]

aquatic heart --> pearl --> hote --> elementals

[golden sonnet]

back to this

[median scaffold]

I'm just waiting for the people to decide

[golden sonnet]

any plans?

[fervent orbit]

uhh we should make celshell defensive focus iirc

and we should kill recon scope

[hollow shell]

aw I like Giant Pearl

[median scaffold]

What does it even do, tho?

[wide river]

I have to assume anything related to Sunken Sea directly is probably getting changes so at best it'd likely get a 🔒

[ashen warren]

I have my own thoughts on it, but you're free to dm them to me.

[fervent orbit]

-statements dreamt up by the utterly deranged

[golden sonnet]

💀

[hollow shell]

note I haven't played Calamity in literal years so it's possible it's terribly unviable

But conceptually it's nice

[golden sonnet]

alright, if you'd prefer it as a dm I will do as such when I have time

[median scaffold]

It probably wasn't viable, like, ever

[fervent orbit]

its been the same since its introduction iirc

[novel belfry]

i think i should've clarified it was a joke...

[median scaffold]

Just exists, because why not

[fervent orbit]

the problem with giant pearl is that enemies are simply too weak to be an issue if u have any sort of equipment, which is what youll probably have post ds

[median scaffold]

When #calamity-mod-talk jokes, it is funny
When #suggestions-discussion jokes, it turns into a whole HoTE rework discussion

[ashen warren]

Bloom Stone badly needs something, yeah. I've been thinking about it for a while, but any changes to it are still well in the concepting stage.

[crude geode]

^

[fervent orbit]

youve heard of water arenas, now lets make plant arenas

[crude geode]

Tis why glacial state had to be made to work on bosses

Bc otherwise it’s meaningless

[fervent orbit]

make 200 different accs based on plants

[median scaffold]

LEMME HARVEST THAT PLANTERA FOR SOME EXTRA DAMAGE, YOOOO

[fervent orbit]

and 5 different armours

[wide river]

Botanist class

[median scaffold]

Fungal Symbiote is kinda looking good rn

[fervent orbit]

~~this is literally how water related stuff is like in calamity, so having another like it wont hurt right ~~

[hollow shell]

Man that's kind of a crazy sentiment
Not saying it's wrong. It's worse if it's true

Beating one boss makes enemies a non-threat for the rest of PreHM?

[hollow shell]

urrrrgh

[crude geode]

You know I’m not wrong rover

[ashen warren]

Easiest change to Giant Pearl is simply to have it work on bosses, honestly. We have the framework for it already.

[median scaffold]

Yes, because you have armor and some equipment either way

[fervent orbit]

not that beating one boss makes it irrelevant, its that if youve decided to fight a boss, youve probably prepared plenty to fight common enemies

[median scaffold]

Angel, please do this

[crude geode]

Please don’t

[ashen warren]

Something I've wanted to do for a while, just keep forgetting to.

[median scaffold]

Let us have fun, bruh

[crude geode]

No

[median scaffold]

What's wrong, man

[crude geode]

Adding it’s effect to bosses only exacerbates Cal’s issue of bosses are the only thing that matter after one pre-hm boss and one mech boss in hm

[median scaffold]

[hollow shell]

(Also doesn't Pearl Aura have some kind of exponential / gradually-increasing slow effect? How would that work with Calamity's system of one-affliction-then-immune for slowing debuffs against bosses?)

[median scaffold]

I'm too eepy to say why that's wrong

[crude geode]

It’s why I’m not particularly a fan of the “stun” effects working on bosses, bc it just puts more of a focus on them

[wide river]

Sorry sir this is a Calamity server so no fun

[median scaffold]

Or just, not wrong. I didn't get that message, sorry

[crude geode]

It’s fine if cal wants to go the direction of bosses only, but it wants to have it’s cake and eat it too

[median scaffold]

Oh, I know
Blasts you with Thorium balance

[hollow shell]

I for one actually fully approve of slows and stuns working on bosses
I feel like that allows you to interact with them in more interesting ways

And the temporary immunity forces debuff inflictions to be more meaningful

[crude geode]

I both like and dislike it, really

[fervent orbit]

i just realised

[golden sonnet]

and it being a 30 second universal cooldown means it isn't broken, and theres no need to have like, 8 different stuns in hotbar

[misty lichen]

very unrelated but will infected jewel be buffed soon

[fervent orbit]

giant pearl is literally just limitless

[median scaffold]

No

[misty lichen]

it’s basically one of the only recently reworked accessories to still be dogwater

[median scaffold]

I won't let that happen

[novel belfry]

watch me casually bring back tmelee boss slowdowns with this

[median scaffold]

Just shadowflame them

[crude geode]

I still just think it’s silly the way cal tries to both introduce more biomes and enemies, but then also doesn’t really make anything threatening besides like. Minibosses. The only one I can really say is half effective is the abyss, and even then there’s still a decent chunk of duds in there

Also the acid rain but like that’s an event and there’s also plenty of duds in there, but idk

It’s weird

[lavish condor]

I feel like Calamity enemies not being a threat is a result of Calamity making the player stronger on average (stronger weapons, better mobility) and enemies weaker (early-hm gutted, lots of "inconveniences" removed, lots of contact damage changes) such that vanilla enemies aren't a threat, then balancing Calamity enemies around vanilla ones. In my opinion, vanilla Expert mode is harder than calamity Death mode in nearly all facets except boss fights

[misty lichen]

^

the amount of absolutely random enemy nerfs piles up insanely hard

[lavish condor]

At one point I used Journey Mode to set enemy stats to 2.95x, which is higher than Master iirc, and still stomped everything with pre-boss weapons effortlessly

If I go back to vanilla expert/master I'll die several times because enemies actually do meaningful chunks of your health and don't die instantly

[crude geode]

Yeah

It’s especially why I’m not a big fan of the new stuff like the bone Lee nerf, since those enemies while annoying af and deserving a nerf in vanilla, were one of the few threats in cal

[distant gyro]

same thoughts for me on acid rain back in the day as well

some of them were probably just

[novel belfry]

i imo think calamity should just straight up get rid of its vanilla hm enemy nerfs