#suggestions-discussion
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See above for an example of lying
Glad we both agree cit is lying
That’s what a liar would say
whats gotd?
Cit’s favorite weapon
The best attunement
Game of the Day
help.
I TRIED COME ON
It doesn’t matter how hard you try if the weapon at its core is unusable
yeah but i still did
It is good for Aureus now
youre a real one gps
Just needs a ridiculous setup noone would possibly use
Give it 7 million damage
This will make it good

I commend you for trying to repair a totaled car with Elmer’s glue
Extra updates are the answer to balancing every weapon
If you give it extra updates it's magically balanced
Hey cmon, it’d maybe be viable for calclone on a water floor if you could aim it
And yeah super Viable aureus weapon please nerf!
Yeah I’ll nerf it by fucking deleting it so I never have to hear its name again
its not poor, it steals from the poor and gives it to the rich
Robin lad
you get me
Not if my change.org petition has anything to say about it
Where's underdone
Image of running faucet with pair of scissors trying to cut the water
i'll make 1 million alt accounts and vote with each of them
wait nevermind i misread
i will not vote for it even once
Too late
worst day ever?
wait isnt gotd gesture for the drowned
oh yeah that one is annoying cuz you cant aim upward
Terrifying sentence
what if instead of being bad we made gestures good instead 
I was about to suggest an acidwood toilet, but then I realized Calamity only adds three toilets
There has been a suggestion about this somewhat recently #suggestions-discussion message
However, suggestions that involve adding furniture or tiles often rely upon someone making the sprite for them, which can take a while
You're right! Thank you for pointing that out
Now would it be a good idea to suggest someone shrink the acidwood chair? It's 2x2 instead of 1x2
if someone makes toilets ill get it in
somehow theres one coming up in the next update
any furniture gets in by some generous soul spriting them in calart
fair point on the anvil thing
it made more sense when they were made at a mythril anvil still
The whole suggestion being full of comma splices hurts the writer in me
Blood Boiler is post-Providence not polterghast just to be clear
what does the oversight tag in bug reports means?
Stuff like "this buff gives 10% damage but the buff tooltip says 20% increased damage"
outdated information basically
Or shimmer skips
shimmer skips?
like, the decraftation progress breaks?
For example the now patched ability to get a hardmode weapon in pre hardmode by using shimmer to decraft things
Oversights is just anything that is technically working as intended, but causes issues
It's also used to point out minor inconsistencies and oversights that got overlooked from changes, often unintentionally
Before, these would get sent in suggestions, but they got moved to #1052323733961977947 because that means they don't have to get through a voting period to achieve the same result
Like the now patched ability for gem tech armor to never lose gems with chalice of the blood god
Well, should the staff thingy from Deus in GFB be reported as an "oversight"? 
GFB is intentionally full of skips
Fair enough
GFB isn't real
I've already played it, still not real
Oh hell no.
So, you basically played a black screen?
so
lets say that theres a gimmick which works based off a variety of items
but theres a specific item that in theory should be included taking into acoount its functionality, but currently isnt
that would be tagged as oversight
correct?
@golden sonnet
Uhhh, wanna just say specifically what it is?
it would be more useful if u stopped saying hypothetically
superheated blood/lavashark not being counted as water physics ignoring stuff
meanwhile shrimpy truffle/baby fishroon and hardy saddle/turtle are
Not counted as for what?

Abyss breath?
Uhh, am I the stupid one?
ye
wasnt for you
Pretty sure superheated does reduce breath loss

I know
At least it says so on the tooltip iirc
I think that's an oversight, then?
But yes, if it doesn't reduce loss that's an oversight
Wait
aight
You mean I could just do a #1178515062030348308 oversight thing and not a suggestion back in pre-2.0.4.001? 
does superheated blood work in water?
It should be
Bug report not balance issue, but yes
it is a shark
...uhh, could I transfer this to bug reports as an oversight, too??
#suggestions-voting message
no
Oh, wait a second, not the right suggestion
The keybind one:
#suggestions-voting message
In my opinion yes
But I know shade has stated they don't entirely like the forum being used for oversights as the line for what is one is more blurred
So that's entirely up to them
I just feel like people will get sick of me because of this one suggestion. That's just some... "wow" self-confidence 
Yeah, I feel like that suggestion does have a ton of grounds
actually
nevermind
it used to not be included
i just thought it was still untouched bc of wiki
Well, I got one hour with cents left 
Alright, update it on the wiki or I can for you
do the honors
i dont mess with this kind of thing yet
i feel like the oversight tag for bug reports is for more minor stuff
that really do not need to go thru suggestions
that is a minor stuff
Alright, should be done. Thanks for making me aware of the issue 

i guess The Sponge extends your abyss breath
Would a suggestion regarding enemy damage numbers go in here or balance

Reduce the damage scal deals in master mode
Master mode damage values are frankly absurdly inflated in calamity endgame. This is perhaps at its most noticeable with supreme Calamitas,
For reference:
A defense stat of 272 and an effective damage reduction of around 15% is fairly reasonable to obtain post yharon for a tankier melee build. With these stats in death mode, a brimstone fireblast will deal approximately 251 damage, a fairly high but reasonable amount of damage.
Under these same conditions in master mode it would instead deal around 482. Nearly double the damage, even taking into account the increased defense effectiveness.
Master damage should be higher than death, but this is absurd.
block parry dodge
Would say it's a balance issue, but, idk 
Using means to ignore the overtuned damage does not make the damage not overtuned
mf going socrates over a video game
the kind of person to get a 26/100 on an english essay:

what
#suggestions-posting message
So, provided I'm interpreting this correctly, you want lifesteal to work like this:
- Lifesteal can't heal the player if the player is at max HP
- Lifesteal only heals the player for up to their missing HP
Correct?
Exactly, yeah
That’s a… much simpler way of putting it
I’m just tired of seeing that stupid cooldown when I’m at full health
you would be surprised at how much strategy video games can entail 
my man got called out
anyway yeah i
dont know why lifesteal works like this
feels like an oversight lmao
bc like
what is it doing at max hp lmao
Overheal obviously 
wat is it doing was that its cooldown used to be so short that no one noticed this problem until now
Even if the cooldown was super short, you’d still not quite get full value from it
TF2 overheal? 
Ok, hear me out. What if the “LAUNCHING PLAGUE NUKES” text in the Plague Bringer Goliath fight created a plague biome. It could be another threat and possibly take over the jungle biome unless you stop it
plague minibiome is a massive maybe with generally a small chance of being implemented
that exists in the calamity community remix and i dont rlly like it but it does sound pretty cool
Hm, that’s cool
And yeah I know this is a very big stretch for base calamity, but it could be cool for a future update to plague bringer
plague minibiome could/should exist but that is NOT how it should go about being done
Yeah
jungle has had it too good for too long, but having an NPC spread infected tiles is the worst
It would probably be pre existing and I 100% agree on another evil biome
Evil Androomba
lo
Honestly imo terraria without evil biome spread is better because i start tweaking from anxiety of it
SO true
If I ever played Terraria with biome spread I’d just completely ignore it and build everything in the sky
gfb type beat
no on gfb I excavated a chunk of land on the surface and filled it in with dirt to create an artificial forest
neat
Old corruptor moment
im pretty sure this has been done to death as a suggestion, but im quite confident asking for more gels for flamethrowers falls under excessive work @wintry frigate due to the nature of how flamethrowers function
they're similar to star cannons in the respect that, due to their unique functionality, and the nature of their ammo, that that just can't really be done easily
maybe rocket launchers would be a better example just in the fact that. every type of rocket requires new unique projectiles for EVERY rocket launcher which is just
miserable
and considering the number of flamethrowers, even just trying to pink gel alone would be
awful
ah well that’s kinda a shame, totally understand that it would be too much to add tho
Classify pink gel as fuel but don’t give it any new effects 
trueeeeeeee
blighted gel- world’s most expensive fuel
you could technically give it higher base damage but like. what. would the point of that be
you'd just be nerfing flamethrowers
how’d that be a nerf? Unless flamethrowers that use gel would be nerfed to compensate
yes obviously
you'd just be moving the goalposts, otherwise you'd make pink/blighted gel flamethrowers the meta
better to keep the damage on the weapon, in my opinion
yeah, that would just be unnecessary balancing pain
it's already bad enough with bows and guns
converts are so ubiquitous for more reasons than just that bullet hoses and firing more arrows per shot is lame as fuck after the 12th time
Makes sense to me
purified gel should be the most expensive right?
what about pink gel
Not so expensive
Fuel but no effects as prikki said
Farming queen slime and gastropods makes it pretty easy to get
I was almost certain that the lifesteal suggestion would be turned down for balance reasons
Actually it required giving bools to every rocket to check the type
oh awesome
These link bots need a better solution, maybe an auto mute if three blocked links are sent within a specific timeframe to make sure it doesn't reach the posting channel if a spammer goes down the list of channels? It's annoying to see it lit up and get a ping for it only to see nothing.
The post dog moons are getting removed @spring sky
And eclipse
Replaced by the distortion subworld
Wdym
Explain what
It's as they said, once the distortion sub world is added the events will no longer be buffed by dog or drop materials
^
yeah also flagging for kind of specific + like. yknow. removal anyway so it doesnt matter lol
Where was this mentioned? Is this an official thing confirmed to be in the next update or something?
Instead endothermic energy and nightmare fuel (under a different name) will be obtained in the sub world, possibly through an event there, possibly not
I still think that they should add new minibosses to the events
It's still a valid suggestion imo
it would be a lot of effort either way
Why would they spend valuable dev time on something that would not need any reason to exist in the future
They already have the sprites and animations for several of them
Yeah but like a BIG yeti
...

the yeti in the event is already the same height as deerclops anyway 💀
a pointless enemy
He chucks ice chunks at you or something idfk
Agreed, very pointless. But cool
well
unsurprisingly "cool" is one of the reasoning donts
also this does not sound cool at all
That wasn't my original reason
i know
it would be cool is the worst reasoning ever
I'm just making excuses as to why this wasn't a terrible suggestion after I already deleted it
Guys it would add variety
You could have tall yeti and wide yeti
Why have a new dimension when you can have two yeties?
i saw the intent but ultimately it would have been better to just not brought up most of those example
not that the sugg hadn't been flagged
I deleted it anyway
theres already like 60 slimes and nobody is asking for more variety does not fix everything
Great, glad you caught onto the sarcasm
Clearly you haven't seen the auric ore slime suggestions
People want more slimes....
Wrong people but still
Wish I could add a lock to stuff in suggestion-posting
actually yeah a sugg like this already passed anyway lol
hilarious how this tends to happen
to my knowledge, the slimes just exist so there’s a renewable source of clamity ores, yeah? They’re all either fishable or slimable- except Perennial and Cryonic which have both for some reason
Pretty sure they are literally all fishable
They just also have ore slimes
Aerilate might not be? Not sure.
It’s shimmerable from Cobalt, though
Nope, they are fishable
Yeah, like literally every calamity ore can be from crates
So the ore slimes just seems redundant
do you guys think the post-dog buffed event drops (endothermic energy, nightmare fuel, darksun fragment) should show on the map
just out of curiosity
since boss checklist can show lunar fragments
I mean you can just use Ceaseless Hunger Potion at that stage so probably not
It would be a good idea if calamity already made other items do that
But as that's mostly just an other mod thing it wouldn't make a ton of sense
oh ok
seeing calamity polish itself up and remove the unncessary and out of place bloat with actually cool shit (like the new subworld dimension which replaces the buffed moons) is so cool
Ore slimes have dev plans right? So any sugg regarding ore slimes will be locked?
im pretty sure the idea was just to turn them into more interesting non-slime mobs
i'm counting that if it means the slime part dies
p much
ore slimes should turn every block they touch into ore ithink
If it was a certain block like mud or something then it'd be so much more interesting and unique than "kill slime. get ore"
guys that was a joke 😭
my response was also a joke lmao but elliott's response is funny 
Auric Slime
🔥
that one shadowspec slime suggestion just erasing every block it touches because it isn't canon
Hellavator Slime
Except the hellevator is at like a 22.5 degree angle cuz of how slimes fall
Wait this is peak
can this be a gfb thing
an auric slime would make the world fucking unplayable and I’m so down for that
dev said it was peak
upcoming feature confirmed ⁉️
what if u have an underground base and all the slimes come and turn it to goo
my cavern layer bases are mainly made from stone-based blocks
so turning them into ores is just straight profit
reverse shimmer even
my wonderful builds being turned to auric ore
Curse of Midas
fun
queen bee mech boss
i guess hitscan lasers would be more accurate
to call them that i mean
since i dont think this is an in universe tooltip
I genuinely really like the idea that someone mentioned here a little while ago to turn them into minibosses like the Ascended Astral Slime from Catalyst.
Probably not all of them but like
one or two.
🥺
as long as they arent slimes anymore idc
Eye of Perennial Bar.
Cryonic worm
why do i keep getting pings in the suggestions channel without any posts in there?
bots send a wave of messages in every channel they can
but the message gets deleted almost instantly
makes sense
who deletes them? mods or another bot?
I think there’s a moderation bot which has a setting to kill anyone who sends the same message in different channels too quickly
mod notifs
it checks for non-whitelisted links
which is why sometimes you get bots slipping through like "anyone interested in earning $50k a month? we will not be scamming people we will be selling crack, dm me for details" because they don't actually post a link
Sometimes they have the grand idea to do an everyone ping, but fortunately this place has that permission disabled for like.... just about everyone
oo
thats a good one,,
Ah, neat
Counterpoint: draedon the type of person to make lasers go beyond the speed of light
Draedon has used magic before
At that point he’d just teleport the lasers forwards
just give them a thousand extra updates 
that would be the speed of light in a vacuum 🤓
draedon the type of guy to exceed speeed of light in a vaccum
Unrelated to the discussion but why is it possible to dodge sulfuric poison
If you have a dodg eaccessory you can just... dodge radiation (?)
Skill solution
aquatic scourge seeing me dodge the radiation in the wster
Aquatic scourge seeing you under water while fighting it
That's more outlandish
infernum aquatic scourge enrages unless you are in water
This isn't addon talk smh
luck issue
oh, that's not a bad idea. though i suppose you could also make a dummy character, slap it some good armor and wings, and just get it that way
or clone the favor
It does not
do people use wings that arent the yeezys?
Omega Blue wings 👁️ 👁️
i mean
Oh yes!
im mainly asking for bloodflare and maaaaybe omega blue
I don’t like the tracers at all
i find tier 1 tracers insufferable
I can’t be fucking bothered to make angel treads
thats wild, i love the shoes. the movement speed is so nice...
it also doesnt give set bonus
You can get a lot of speed by short hopping instead of running on the ground
not god slayer armor
idk how to do that, i am a casual
God Slayer Hoverboard is a concept I believe
Just tap the space bar for a li’l tiny bit to get a teeny bit of air
ive learned how to dodge for rev+master playthru but i am still a casual.
Then you can fly at a low altitude or just hop again
Not sure when it'll be done but it's a thing that exists
Pretend you’re a frog! A very, very fast frog!
i dont think its bad to re-suggest something tho, at least the pins say. it tells the devs that this is a high priority item
A god slayer hoverboard would be cool as hell though
i'll def vote for this suggestion if it gets to voting
I mean it wouldn't actually change anything but sure
ngl for some reason i swear remebering that god slayer booster was an item
also i want a bloodflare set of wings
But I could get behind bloodflare wings
i love bloodflare armor a lot, enough that i will fight polterghast early for it 🧍♂️
lets see how long can "consistency with vanilla" go
#suggestions-posting message cirrus kite that's just the boob couch
im only half-joking. i think itd be funny.
Cirrus shitposts turned into items are always funny
@worldly sparrow - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Remove Signus' title of "Envoy of the Devourer"]
It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
hold on wait they're cooking
Signut, distortion denizen
EPIC ANTI-SPAM BOT W
i hope this doesn’t get beat out by “add calamity kites”
the most common complaint i hear from a lot of my friends about cal is rev/death being way too easy (they are the same difficulty) but ftw/gfb or infernum being way too hard
i wouldn’t even say death mode is having an identity crisis, it’s just a complete identity failure
Best I can do is boss rush exclusive ai
i can’t believe malice has been gone for almost 2 years and it’s ai is still just reused for boss rush
indeed
i'm in this boat
i feel like part of the issue is bosses and content needing heavy reworks or additions
(namely post ML non-boss enemies, reworking a lot of bosses that are on the simple or not really good difficulty typesetc)
(that's another thing, having more interesting stuff going on outside of boss fights)
your friends think it's easy?
i agree that master mode's ai changes should go into death mode, i do think that makes sense. but jesus what kind of game are you playing that im not
There are
Some master mode changes
That would be cool in death mode
But in all honestly
A lot of them are just not proper difficulty mode changes
And half of them feel like something out of ftw anyways
I assume death mode expansion will come eventually
what is ftw?
Are Godspeed Boosters or whatever they're called a CalVal thing?
yeah they are
i think their flight stats are also just worse than silva's
A lot of the Calamity Vanites wings are just generally worse than Calamity wings
The only one I found use out of is the Wulfrum Hoverpack which has a longer flight time than Fledgling Wings and therefore perform better without Rocket Boots
Chicken Wings also have a faster vertical speed than Drew’s Wings, I do believe
Deadass???
erm really? the hoverpack looked so shit
It has inferior flight stats but about .55 seconds longer of flight
If I didn't have Rocket Boots, the Hoverpack is just a tad better since it's more than a glorified double jump
to be fair i
dont think the effects of master mode are communicated
anywhere, ever
the same could be said of expert mode actually too
vanilla doesnt explain what you're getting into at all
im not going to say the difficulty situation isnt an utter shitshow right now but
it's not like this has ever been terraria's strong suite
I feel like master mode should be mostly outside of calamity's scope, but I mean I'm not calamity devs. Just would make sense to me to think of it as classic: easier mode, expert: intended balancing with rev or whatever, master: extra numbers on enemies if you want things to be harder.
calamity difficulties complicate things kinda, but I feel like overall it works out that expert is calamity default, master is added by relogic for extra numbers/vanilla boss changes, but not really part of the mod
this could just be entirely coloured by my personal experience/bias tho
i dont exactly disagree lol
you need to fix that regardless of what mode it’s in
arguably having it in master is worse
I made a sugg about this that got a ton of votes that never went anywhere. Ill find it rq
Oh nevermind it got sent to the server the fuck
Dont know if the bot pinged me or not apologies
largely agree, while vanilla master mode is bland and boring, its still something that is a part of vanilla and falls under them to do something about it. people coming off of a vanilla playthrough or another terraria experience likely already have some idea or semblance on what to expect from master mode from that, and the boss AI changes are nowhere in those previous expectations
also think that more utilization of the difficulty indicator UI as a separation for large game and AI changes would be nice. this is something i think that malice mode, despite its image as "a huge mistake from beginning to end" to the devs, was good on as it was a change that was more clearly communicated to the player. in addition, it could decide on after world generation while the master mode changes lock you in from the start of world generation and does not let you know what you're getting yourself into
i disagree with this, master death is great
refuses to elaborate
i also never said anything here about changing the AI, as much as im not a huge fan on some of the changes, but if there is a change, it should either be 1) communicate to the player somewhere in game 2) something the player can opt in and out of or 3) both of the above
its liek if you sign a contract, but everything but the signature on the bottom was blocked out for you
like you have no idea what youre getting yourself into
and have no way of backing out
cuz the world is already generated
It can still be master death without the AI changes being in master
this too is another big issue
just the disorganization of difficulty modes is the fucked up part i want addressed
there’s zero good reason for everything to be split up the way it is
I expect this suggestion to get 40 stars in voting because it's not "add random furniture item pls"
i just want devs to look at it in general, i know it’s literally impossible to get suggs like this past voting
i might even just repost it until something gets addressed (with minor edits to the text of course)
Difficulty and boss suggestions vs acidwood furniture 3
when i'm in a not completing a something competition and my opponent is calamity furniture
i cant diss the spriters it's not like vanilla sets are completely consistent either
i know vanilla was missing a bunch of walls for the longest time
Smh, where is stone accent slab walls
coming 200never
I keep having to tell myself not to suggest an acidwood toilet
still waiting for the auric fart kart 
fr
Calamity if it was Goooooooood
It’s something that could be applied to like. half the bosses in the game
yeah
i should've probably flagged it
@stiff swallow i can tell you exactly why there is no god slayer wing and it's because they still cant pick a sprite for it
that fucking request has been in calart for 4 fucking years at this point
it’s also just incorrect? scourge weapon drop logic is the exact same as all other calamity bosses
it should be deleted because it’s just, not even true
why does every boss need to have weapon drops anywayt
bc weapons are clearly the only thing that matter duh /s
im never not going to be mad that i spent like a month making a sprite, submitted it, it got accepted, and then i learnt through being friends with devs that it wasn't going to be added. did leave a bit of a bad taste in my mouth ngl
Acceptn't
thats wild wtf 😭
@copper turret - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Increase the number of weapon drops from Aquatic Scourge.]
It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
Yeah, I feel like there should have been more communication there
ts shit so sad
like i know why now but
it still fucking pisses me off that it was allowed to happen
especially because for a while i thought it was because i upscaled it to the wrong size which is
such an easy issue to fix and i got mad no one ever contacted me about it
i guess it was considered unimportant because of the other reason it got rejected but that being the only thing i was told was infuriating for sure
i mean i understand how
they're busy people
and explanations would probably count as half leaks and i don't believe i was a mod yet at the time?
so i understand why they wouldn't trust a rando with it
@scarlet musk #1178515062030348308 is a place to put that innit?
oop thank you
lol
but also you should probably have numbers to back your claim up
I got so excited thinking it was a $50 steam giftcard and it wasn't :(
yeah i wasnt super happy about that one
i fixed it myself and later got the message "no that's not going to be added anymore"
rip
you'd thought no one put in the hassle of adding it but no the item itself just got shelved
Probably distortion/dog rework stuff
i will say finding out you did fix it... im not sure if i feel better or worse because of it 
if you must know,
fixing stuff is kinda run of the mill for me so it's fine
Fixing stuff sounds like 10-40% of game dev depending on how the engine is feelin
i moreso meant im glad someone cared enough to do that, but im also annoyed that the work was put it just for it to still get racked anyway
but like i said i get it
also true
THE GODSLAYER WINGS IS NOT COMING?
what the fuck
all warding except for two menacing
both summons ruthless
elemental axe consistently gets 3000-3200 dps, compared to virid vanguard's more inconsistent 2500-2900 dps
It is probably its just not getting implemented now
As in it got racked for distortion/dog rework
I see
just as a general question
is this dummy numbers or is this vs a specific boss
because that changes things a lot especially with minions
super dummy numbers
which boss should i test on
Dont use super dummies. Use bosses as DPS generally doesnt mean shit unless its like 500 vs 2000
sentinals and polter
im... not that far yet
i meant like a control boss
honestly Godslayer wings would be faster if I just made em myself and I've never programmed nor modded a game lol
And calamitys sprites are rather high quality compared to what I'm used to so making one might be tough
yeah multiple people have already done that
like me
i could go throw the item together in 5 minutes, that's obviously not the issue
Its not the programming thats the issue its probably throwing them in not in the distortion/dog rework update
future distortion/DoG plans are obviously the issue with adding wings that comply to the previous aesthetic since that will likely be completely changing with all of these plans
I get that
though I mainly referenced Godslayer wings as a dumb absence, gameplay wise personally I want post Polter wings more
Post polter wings is valid tbh
yeah ^
void wings
You get nothin from prov to dog i think
Mhm
-50 max health and +15% damage while wearing omega blue 
Tbf elysian are very good
one of many reasons why polter doesn't feel like a real tier
Based
Extremely dumb and op sounding though I'd honestly want something to synergize with the tentacles on omega blue
I feel like the big issue is Polter is a joke boss
polter is a joke boss
CV wings would make sense for Prismatic since it's A. Donor item, and B. Niche for one class
And it would be on tier
But eh
CalVal has it for vanity
I don't feel like it's needed really
Plus it's not like mages can't just wear the 2 main armor sets
Ok im not the only one with this opinion
It feels like a nothing tier despite having a ton of stuff
i used to do polter before provi because i used to find provi hard
i no longer find provi hard enough to need that
bloodfire wings
much better stats comparitively but you have your health drained while flying
Also all the post Polter weapons have the same aesthetic unless they're sentinel weapons generally
Neat concept actually
Lose hp while grounded regen while flying
Bloodflare ye
That would be hilarious considering DOG
...why is that so necessary? It's just a pair of wings, it can be resprited for when the new aesthetic shows up
The current plantera fight is definitely mechanically harder and more interesting and ironically makes polter feel less of a clone
baroclaw and slagsplitter pauldrons were introduced with some odd sprites that the community almost immediately put out good resprites for
Since (master) plantera is all about all the other bullshit in addition to simple charge
lmao yeah
you don't need to put out "new aesthetic"-accurate sprites, the community will just provide one if an actual item is released and they think it doesnt look right
Like she has spore gas, p1 spirals, seed shotguns/blaster in p1, Thorn balls, radial exploding balls
Coming from all directions
idk (this is it) ¯_(ツ)_/¯
was that rejected becasue of the planned gs armor resprite
p much i believe so
so sad
so vanguard is better, but it still doesn't matter because dazzling stabber staff (which you can get directly from providence instead of having to mine ore for it) more than doubles its damage. the only reason you would use vanguard is grinding for dazzling stabber
imo just implement the goddamn wings
it shouldn't matter too much that it'll be outdated
just that it should be resprited when the time for the gs armor resprite comes
okay, maybe im getting too heated over a pair of wings
I mean
Just add them lol lmao xddddddddddd
This is the same mod that added a recolor of a hardmode enemy for a boss enemy
So it shouldn't hurt for a while, I think
from my own testing this doesnt seem to be true, if anything vangard seems to be better than stabber is vs multitarget bosses like weaver and void
im probably really annoyed because it seems like the simplest of things being not added for reasons that don't really seem to matter too much
What boss?
like its just a pair of wings
sure, we're no longer at that calamity phase where it added a bajillion recolored enemies and items
pbg?
in fact virid might be a little too good vs multitarget 
that's insanwe
but the fact that the bajillion recolors were done should show that these wings literally do not need to wait that long to be implemented
master eye's spawns are litterally just recollored wandering eyes
Oh, right.
that was over a month ago
a
yeah my timing is wrong
but my point should stand
or actually
maybe we're getting a bit off track about it
its a pair of wings
i mean logs said they've already been resprited anyway lol
you have a literal submission
so maybe a 1:3 ratio of vanguards to stabbers is optimal in general
oop
why be so stringently beholden to a potential future resprite to prevent the addition of a really noticable missing piece of a armor set
im just gonna mention that drew’s wings are still a complete recolor of solar wings

all they did was take solar wings and then turn on the greyscale button
See? It's obvious you can add them
It's ever more obvious because after all the Calamity I played I learn now that Drew wings are a recolor of Solar Wings
tbf who uses drews wings like ever
like 50% of the playerbase
more probably
considering the entire drew wings vs celestial tracers sentiment surged from some parts of the community probably
Yeah, now they iframes are gone from tracers they are just better
why would i use drew wings when i could have the fanciest yeezys known to mankind
Auric jordans
The true solution is to use the minecart.
well its do you want better wings or do you want another accessory slot
and i find elysian and seraph good enough, mostly for that tradeoff
tier 1 just isnt enough
wanting to die the milisecond i have to walk
Hear me out: Don't
just grapple to reset flight time smh
You don't need boots at all post moon lord
It doesn't save a slot
ppl weir..
Wdym, that's pretty normal to not wear boots after moon lord
personally i feel like going down in general movement speed is like removing a permanent upgrade lol
Flying horizontally is faster
Wings are faster in the air, which you should be for bosses
Boots are only for ground speed
You aren't going down in speed
I don't use them after golem yeah
boots still increase your horizontal movement speed a considerable amount by then
I still use them for most of hardmode because fairy boots are disgustingly broken but if those didnt exist I'd be dropping them by plant
Calamity increases you base speed which boots override
So you don't need them for other stuff too
yeah and boots are still way faster
the mobility matters way less when you're not fighting a boss
its a minor inconvenience at most
- pylons exist so like
idk maybe im just too seperated from active discussion and meta talk..
momentum incapacitator
ah yes pylons those things i totally setup every single time
real
cause im like i want to make pylon houses not suck and not be boxes
but those get deferred and never built
this
if fairy boots weren't real then I'd drop terrasparks once I beat Skeletron
but 10 defense and 2 regen is just so unfathomably juicy
the fact that fairy boots are a better defensive acc than most actual defensive accessories at that tier while also still being better spectre boots is absurd
well
fairy got moved to hardmode
along with hellfire
so terra is like
ur only option now

thats where youre wrong
fairy boots had been hardmode for awhile
Nah Flower Boots sweep
amphibian boots:
water walking boots sweep
Rocket Boots 🔥

Rox my beloved
I love getting 3 accessories from rox
Hellfire treads + amalgamated brain + bloody worm scarf
rox shimmer is dying you know this
Wait fr?
I was unaware of this

Just have to
Actually find it 
(Ignore the fact I usually just cheat it in after Evil 2 because I can't be arsed to find it myself)
I mean it survived the last god knows how many patches
Yeah, I expected it to be changed when it gets a shrine
But that's been in dev limbo for awhile
When the shrine build was "completed" 7 months ago
i really like this one because it can be annoying to be on cooldown because you were given health that you didnt need
I like this one too
Hmm I wonder why 
Best few sprites are chosen and give class-specific buffs.

im not sure if you're trying to give a solution but it's not like they dont not exist because of too many options bc otherwise they would've used one of them already
oh lmfao the emoji refused to load
thanks discord
Make the extra health a defense bonus
Totally won't be helly abused by everyone 
add overheal
how tho
hmm
Same response to that one as well 
I get what you mean but if lore and gameplay contradicts, gameplay prevails
Exceptions are best kept minimal
||NPCs taking damage in the first place is cringe anyways||
that's why i always have them be invincible with a mod
hurdur
destroyer murking all of them was a nice jumpscare in my first playthrough that made me scared of it
but intensely annoying afterwards
OVERHEAL FROM (insert any game with overheal. I want TF2 to be here), YOOOOOOOO
thorium kind of has that with their shields
With Calamity's ability to set NPC's spawn rate to 10x and make them move even in night, is it really that necessary?
Me who has his main arena away from all npcs: I have no such weaknesses!
not qol is "necessary"
but i prefer it
so i use it
simple as that
Nah, I mean making SCal and Permafrost immune to ice constructs in Calamity, not QoL mods
oh
idk why you replied to me then
me talking about the destroyer was not to do with the suggestion
Well, yeah, my bad here
Suggestion: make the destroyer the only thing able to destroy NPCs. Its in his name 
ULTRAKILL
But it only lasts a short time because I would just get to 100000 hp before starting a fight if I could
ye
There’s just so much wrong here
The suggestion is not mechanically wrong
But Ark of the Cosmos has already caused enough damage as it is
idk, as soon as i craft triactis' hammer i just dont need to use anything else
and its really sad because i love ark B(
its the only pml melee weapon with a unique swing animation
(aside from some others, this one is just the most unique imo)
Weapons that come later tend to be stronger than the ones that came before yes
crackpot sugg:
ark booster accessory: grants 45% increased dmg to ark of the cosmos, but requires shadowspec bars
This but for every weapon
Compared to how much melee received every update I don’t really feel like it needs more, especially since harvest added a bunch more reworked weapons
@terse crypt shadowspec tier items cannot be suggested and also this doesnt make any sense
scal and exos are literally the end of the game til yharim, and after he gets added shadowspec will moved to be after him
that would be if i suggested a specific item (which this suggestion isnt)
and well aotc isnt an 'endgame' weapon by definition, since endgame weapons are all shadowspec tier
im basically suggesting an upgrade for it, nothing more, nothing less
no you also just Can't suggest shadowspec items in general
shadowspec is reserved for dev items
even if they aren't specific?
yeah
where's that written? sorry if the tone of the question is rude, just need to be extra sure
maybe i'm blind but i can't seem to find a rule about it in the doc? i guess the best answer i can give you is that's just how shadowspec tier is handled
i can take that, thanks
it's the dev "what the fuck is thematic consistency 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥" tier
maybe that earth rework might do shadowspec tier justice
Earth
And Temporal Umbrella
And Endogenesis
And Scarlet Devil
And... uhh, what
the explict shadowspec rule was removed but i just
this isn't going to pass
ever
i can tell you right now that it isn't
If only devs want it... if only...
you literally just got ark the tier before and there is ONE boss left after this there is no point
(You technically get Galaxia in post-dog, so three upgrades in three tiers is too much)
something about overstaying its welcome
the more things like it you add, the less cool and unique it feels
And, personally, I would like to have more options for other classes than melee
It already has the most shadowspec tier weapons (tmelee has one, but that's besides the point)
6, I think?
i want ranged weapons that arent either dogwater damage or extremely slow but we dont all get what we want (this isnt that srs dont yell @ me)
King's Bane? 

Broken Biome Blade (post-Evil2)
Fractured Arc (post-Slime God)
Biome Blade (post-Mechs)
Ark of the Ancients (post-Plant)
True Biome Blade (post-Deus)
Ark of the Elements (post-ML)
Galaxia (post-DoG)
Ark of the Cosmos (post-Yharon)
like this is the whole game the only point that's missing is providence-polter (but polter isnt a real boss anyway so
)
Yes, 6 melee shadowspec weapons. And you want a 7th one?
And Providence isn't necessary to defeat, so you can just go straight up to DoG 
AotC does feel super underwhelming but thats mostly a me thing, i just dont like how it feels to use. but it is a full game carry, yeah
how is aotc underwhelming
AotC without parries, maybe?
Bad opinions
I didn't use them the first time around and was really underwhelmed with it, so just sticked up to Dragon Pow
Biome blade is post-3 mechs and I doubt you’d use frark on mechs but who knows
Someone did an "AotC" only run, but... yeah
Frark isn't particular good for WoF even, iirc
lol whoops
It got nerfed but it's fine now
It used to obliterate wof byeah
No more 25 second WoF, billions must perish
I imagine it was probably still sitting around somewhere in the files just unobtainable
anyway why wasnt grand dads crit chance 7%
It's gonna get reimplemented
amazing
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damn
MASSIVE W
i hope its a bit more thematic
can i/should i rerun a suggestion if it was relatively recent but still aged-out?
I think this is already gonna get implemented
Just gotta hope now 🙏
If Suggestions Bot had WhatsApp
wait if it's already done i can just 🔒 it right
i guess the correct one to use would be 🏁
but also doing that doesn't remove the sent message
so you'll turn it into a triple ping
It would only be the like 5th version of that meme in this channel

calamitky kites is too strong
i am beating “add wings” somehow
would like uh
idk what they would be
first thought is artemis/apollo
dog worm kite
bumblebirb/dragonfolly kite but that might be a bit too much into calval territory
but kites kinda are calval -y
You’ll beat kites too if you just believe
Me summoning 178 unnamed accounts to vote on the "Add wings" suggestion
so figure I should throw out, if anyone ever planned on it, I wouldn't mind seeing
prismatic breaker getting reworked to be more up to date with calamity standards
if that was ever in the cards, if not that is fine too, figure I should put that out there
in case anyone was afraid of touching it cause I'm the donor
i will keep that in mind, thanks
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i got beat out by a compass qol recipe (granted it didnt get sent either but)
Donor W
#suggestions-posting message
@dusty path the argument crumbles quite easily: there is either the Hive trying to ram you or his worms trying to chomp on you. Standing still is simply not an option most of the times
Probably should mention it then
im so sad it didnt get sent
PLEASE i hate grinding the compass out so badly
truee
i really wanted ammo hotkeys tho
god was ammo hotkeys in that batch
yeah 😭

i had 97 votes.... 4 off to be equal to the stealth guy 
god, ammo hotkeys wasnt even close
this must be added...
yea fucking hate cultsit!11
pfft okay, strong reaction
It was swallower by the sea of suggestions
no way
I don't like the idea of the compass, or even other accessories in vanilla for that matter being craftable. Why should that be Calamity's responsibility?
I got like 95 for making harpy wings craftable with a regular anvil
Achieved the impossible
so just dont craft them. it's not calamity's "responsibility", but it's an added QoL thing, and grinding the compass is mind numbing + silly that it cant be made when a lot of other things can be. including some of the traveling merchant's shellphone stuff.
either way, the suggestion lost out. i might repost it when enough time passes because i do want to see it, it's like my one of very few gripes w calamity, but complaining about it at this point feels a little redundant
anyone who doesnt vote for kites isnt a real fan /j
if arrow hotkeys doesnt get an eventual repost i may also do that one because im so sad it didnt get approved. mid-fight arrow management is literal hell.
Does it need to be cal's responsibility? No
But locking out, say, information accessories, by the literal worst rng mechanism (Traveling Merchant) is just horrible vanilla design
And cal doesn't like that design, so they made an alternative
For consistency reasons, if the other components are craftable, why should cal not make compass?
Makes sense with calamity's design philosophies
epic
:thumb

Henlo noob
hiiii
compass is a monster drop
compass, depth meter are consistently obtainable while traveling merchant items are not
and yet radar is craftable despite being obtainable from crates
well like it's 1% so I can see why
Also calamity makes enemy grinding super easy with zerg, blood moons, and chaos candle
fishing isnt real 
So true
Terraria fishing:
Basically gambling, lootboxes included
Are the damage types of consumable ranged weapons hard-coded?
no, why
change to rogue real
I was going to make a suggestion to change at least some of them to Rogue damage.
No
Fair enough.
been denied before i’m pretty sure
Yeah, and it's pretty much effort for nothing, Rogue is quite fleshed out early game, why add more
no, calamity isnt going to change any damage from one class to another of any vanilla items
wut?
chronomancer scythe ?
clarified the message
They're a whole nother story since it depends on the donor
Also yeah vanilla cause they're fine as is
i was talking about vanilla stuff specifically being changed
not content in general
(hey guys remember that one Thorium Calamity mod that makes Face Melter a bard weapon for some fucking reason?)
yeah why would they make a guitar a bard weapon
rogue would require changing the stats, but gladiator is simpled added onto
that's stupid
Ninja set is... A multiclass set, isn't it?
indeed
alright then
it saves them from having to develop another bard weapon at that tier and it's not like mage is starving for weapons
ong??
all the mages who wanted to use stellar tune in that one specific mod:
face melter doesnt even play like the other musical weapons
@golden sonnet i saw u not making the title bold initially,,,
most necessary suggestion ever. This information is based on the order of worldgen previewer, but if there are errors with the statements about generation order let me know
it's cuz I accidentally posted it here first, and when I copied it from here it didnt keep the bold
every suggestion is 110% necessary trust
hammers
nah the nitpicky, super specific and easy to implement suggestions are EXACTLY what this channel is for
I’m pretty sure, at least
peak
Can't wait for this change to be bugged for it to never generate and noone notices for 3 years

raesh will notice it
I should add a Muddiest Mud Block to the Vernal Pass schematic...,.,.,..,...
For the shits and giggles
real
The only person to ever collect it intentionally
Yeah no it's a reasonable suggestion
It's just also extremely specific to just Raesh

I totally don't get it every single playthrough i do
it's a rite of passage
Dirtiest block recipe when? (it needs 10^36 blocks of dirt)
(it's not physically possible to craft without outside mods)
terraria equivalent of 10th power compressed cobblestone
It's possible to break with anything, it just takes too damn long
simply import a crystyl crusher and you'll find it eventually
Cheating, ruins the point of the pursuit
the dirtiest block is a rare surprise, not something to grind like that
yeah that post was meant to be like, a joke
Ah, sorry. Fell for the bait 😔
@restive wharf https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Voodoo_Demon_Voodoo_Doll
The Voodoo Demon Voodoo Doll is a craftable Pre-Hardmode spawn-blocking tool. It can be toggled by right-clicking on the item to disable or enable Voodoo Demon spawns.
interesting
I still think minions shouldnt target voodoo demons though


