suggestions-discussion

[golden sonnet]

that doesn't work for that

[sour marsh]

am I the only one who get's absolutely zero hallow biome after the WoF

the astral infection always takes all up the space the hallow would have been

[echo leaf]

There will likely be an underground hallow

[golden sonnet]

there is yes

[wide river]

You can make a surface one with Hallowed Seeds from the Dryad, and yeah the underground one exists too

[sour marsh]

nop i mean there's zero underground hallow as well

it always happens ngl

[golden sonnet]

it will always exist in caverns

as astral does not go that low

[wide river]

You can go to the underworld and check the ceiling for Hallow

[oblique otter]

If you really want to make sure use the terramap website

Had a hallow generate over the jungle once, was confused for a bit

[drowsy plank]

column evils coming 20XX

[misty lichen]

i think column evils would be way worse for this situation

[wintry gale]

what is collumn evils

[drowsy plank]

#suggestions-voting message

not if it was implemented as i suggested

[wintry gale]

also
why are the spawnrate candles white rarity

[drowsy plank]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

honestly could go in #1052323733961977947 under inconsistencies

[bold wave]

That seems like hell to program

[drowsy plank]

already in the game in gfb

[bold wave]

Huh

[drowsy plank]

in gfb

the hallowed spawns in a column on one of the oceans

[bold wave]

Right

[grave zinc]

@echo leaf - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[A Communicate-esque option with Calamitas, Amidas, and/or Permafrost]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[echo leaf]

Neat

[bright crag]

Basically, we would like to change the dialogue system of Cal NPCs to be something similar to Draetalk

[echo leaf]

Oh, I like that!

[bright crag]

No promises or ETAs, but it's something we'd really want to do

[echo leaf]

Even Bandit? I hope it’s just multiple different flavors of shit talking the goblin tinkerer

[bright crag]

Bandit may or may not have it, will depend
They're definitely not a priority, Amidias is and Calamitas+Permafrost are right behind

[echo leaf]

Sounds great! Thanks for the update c:

[violet sierra]

Amidias getting a Draetalk thing would be so good especially if it led to a better "guide" system

[misty yew]

and with the sunken sea getting it's revamp we'll get more lore most likely

[vestal lark]

Catalyst makes it generate way lower, that might be it.

But yes I agree Hallow's natural generation is almost consistently awful.

Wait nobody said that.

Whatever my point still stands I'm gonna shut up now.

[umbral gazelle]

is suggestion to remove a reference from certain item because its inaccurate to the original show a valid suggestion?

[echo leaf]

On paper, yeah. I think so... but I'm no mod. Why don't you type it out anyawys? Worst case scenario you get ❗ 'd

[wide river]

Am I understanding right that you want to make a weapon more accurate to what it's referencing?

[umbral gazelle]

no i just want the reference to be removed

a stellar knife

theres no thing such as homing knife in jjba and DIO isnt the only one that throws a knife in stopped time

[wide river]

Ah, I see

I think that's completely fine to request a removal of a reference while keeping the item itself

Stellar Knife's not dedicated or anything so you should be good

[novel belfry]

another reason to move astral infection to post-ml

[vestal lark]

Okay please explain because that seems very not reasonable to me.

[echo leaf]

Explain what?

[vestal lark]

This.

It sounds quite silly to me.

[drowsy plank]

lol true v silly

[wide river]

There's some pros and cons, but ultimately the cons vastly outweigh the pros

[neat linden]

a ton would have to be changed for that

where would aureus and deus fit if they were post ml

[vestal lark]

Yeah.

But also like

[neat linden]

both would also need some hefty reworks

[vestal lark]

what are the positives?

[neat linden]

uhhhhhhh

astral no longer destroys hallow and/or surface ice when you need them :3

that's all I can think of

[vestal lark]

Yeah same.

[wide river]

The only positives I can see would be that post-Moon Lord would have more non-boss content (which is getting fixed eventually anyway via devplans.png), and that it wouldn't immediately mess with Hallow or evils on starting Hardmode

[neat linden]

a ton of equipment would get retiered too

Rogue wouldn't even have an early hm armor

[vestal lark]

Genuinely the only reason I can think of for it is slightly reducing the issues with the dumb flawed Hardmode biome generation stuff.

[neat linden]

so a new one would have to be created

[misty lichen]

no change! 😄

[tardy geyser]

Move astral to planetoids

[neat linden]

clearly

[neat linden]

who needs titan heart armor anyway

statigel and live as a spam rogue

[frail fox]

Rogue ore helmets clearly

[wide river]

What if you
Wanted unique armor
But Calamity said
5-helmet set

[vestal lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1138960073440374795/1228010392295313458/sad_asd.png?ex=662a7ccc&is=661807cc&hm=ae4d4743e9aab134f6952c7bec5cac776db8fc6af27c3d32b1de1d029a0fa7e5&

[echo leaf]

My vote goes to astral being in a subworld

oh and NO multiplayer compatibility

[umbral gazelle]

make multiplayer worse 💪

[odd geyser]

brainrot?

like

bibidi babidi will you bi my skibidi?

[umbral gazelle]

🪨

[odd geyser]

food fr

[echo leaf]

please direct yourself to the nearest bathtub and treat yourself with toaster-powered electroshock therapy

[steep patrol]

Why use your own bathtub when you can use one in nuclear powerplant

[near notch]

Chat idk why I thought this but what if we added mimicry from item asylum as a crimson weapon

[ripe owl]

No

[olive saddle]

i had an idea for a texture pack that reworks some vanilla sounds to be a lot more in depth like calamity's are but its not viable for a sugg at all

[vagrant spindle]

Clearly it should be a touhou reference instead

[thorn dock]

Flash Totem sug doesnt make it it seems

Would be too OP if nullifying contact damage on a 20 sec CD anyway

[violet sierra]

"desperate attempt at a jojo reference" is INSANE PHRASING

[thorn dock]

I feel that when running chalice of the blood god + purity I m basically unkillable due to occasional boss projectile damage and contact damage beeing the only thing that can frequently kill me when doing bosses

Having totem block all contact damage on a 20 sec CD would make many Boss Fights way too easy.

[hybrid cedar]

ironically the dev who put the za warudo did regret not making it a touhou reference iirc

[misty yew]

the weapon works like the knives thrown during stopped time work so the reference does make sense technically

but that phrasing is insane

[royal tapir]

Is this a "for real" or an "on god" moment

[fervent orbit]

for god

[novel belfry]

Okay.
This is a pipe dream of mine that I outright know will never happen, for reasons already stated, but my main reason for this would be allowing more room in hardmode for hm evil biomes and hallow content, and also giving astral infection room to have more content

Because astral infection occurs on top of evil biomes getting bigger and another infection biome showing up, astral infection can’t have too much content

It can’t even infect new blocks like the corruption and crimson

because that would be too much of a new headache to stop that on top of the evil biome getting even more bananas

[fervent orbit]

~~lets switch plague and astral ~~

[novel belfry]

Now, now that’s based

[violet sierra]

Astral Infection is pretty fun they just need to remove the big meteor on the surface

it removes reason for a lot of players to go underground

[novel belfry]

Also astral infection is a space thing and would be cool too to see it after beating the vanilla final boss that’s from space

[violet sierra]

Moon Lord has no connection to the astral infection in calamity lore

[novel belfry]

byeah, moving astral infection to post ml would be nice but also take way too much effort without probably annihilating the devs’ sanity

hence, why I call this a pipe dream

[buoyant idol]

Real solution is to make it so a much smaller patch of astral appears with a link to an astral subworld and a biome background in the overworld portion showing a distant infection.

[wide river]

The best solution is to make Astral a single tile with no unique benefits just to confuse tf out of players

[echo leaf]

Increasing the ore requirement could work too

Mining the asteroid can get you a handful of bars but not much more

[violet sierra]

that would make it tedious

mining meteors and the astral meteor is pretty tedious

[buoyant idol]

Too many players use veinminer though.

[sleek turret]

cmon it doesn't take that much time though

[echo leaf]

balancing calamity around the expectation of qol mods doesn’t make much sense

[violet sierra]

you cannot design the game around a mod

[buoyant idol]

True.

[grizzled dome]

#suggestions-posting message I somehow didn't see this until now, but I will randomly mention that "throw knives, time freezes, knives re-angle themselves towards enemies, time unfreezes" is exactly what Sakuya does in Touhou.

[errant wren]

i feel as though they left out the part where dio throws multiple knives at once, and (in most depictions of the scene) has also angled them towards jotaro fairly accurately

i do see their point though

uhh back to lurking for an undisclosed amount of time unless someone decides to talk to me

[echo leaf]

how is your day so far?

[errant wren]

why have you done this

[buoyant idol]

Trapped.

[errant wren]

[crude geode]

Cope and seethe

[royal tapir]

Waiter, waiter! More Touhou references please!!

[grizzled dome]

Just be glad that there aren't any "puzzle" patterns to my knowledge.

[crude geode]

wtf how did you read my mind

[ashen warren]

I was half tempted to change it to a Sakuya reference when I saw the original post, ngl.

[supple shell]

i have a proposition to remake the calamitous robes because calamitas clothes got changed

[hollow shell]

Sounds fair

[misty lichen]

i’ll take a touhou reference over a jojo reference

[golden sonnet]

We already have a few touhou ones to be fair

[novel belfry]

i know little about touhou and a ittle more about jojo so uhhhh

[misty lichen]

jojo fans deserve nothing imo

[novel belfry]

agreed. they already have a nice show to go bananas over

lets leave it at that.

[crude geode]

Just like Ultrakill fans fr fr

[misty yew]

not all jojo fans haven't watched the show tho

[river lily]

the latest suggestion is so funny

it feels like the person who wrote it vehemently hates jojo 😭

theres literally no reason to remove something like that

[misty yew]

it's the fact that the weapon does actually work how the knives are used in the show

it's the same as how they're thrown in stopped time

[river lily]

even if they didn't like,,,,,

who cares,,,

why U gotta make a suggestion for that

[errant wren]

i mean it's something minor

also i think they were going for accuracy to the reference

[river lily]

it's not affecting anyone's gameplay besides that one person 😭

if devs want to add a funny quote to reference something in the description of a item let them do it,,,,,

to me it just legit seems like they hate joe joe bizzar

[errant wren]

i'm pretty sure they wouldn't use reasoning from the series if they did

[errant wren]

also just to refute this point, that's not how it works in the series

[shut wolf]

I'm curiious does anyone know what this means? I was assuming it was showing the travelling merchant lineup for the day but when a travelling merchant showed up it was completely different.

[vestal lark]

In all fairness though neither does the Wall of Flesh?

[worn coyote]

astral infection just decides to fall smh

[grim tusk]

Looks like OreExcavator didnt set up a localization file properly, report to them

[shut wolf]

Ah ok where can I do that?

[grim tusk]

Ore Excavator’s description should probably have a server or someone you could contact

[violet sierra]

[shut wolf]

Alright I gotchu thanks

[grizzled dome]

...since when are there clentaminator solutions for desert/snow?

[vestal lark]

4.4 I think.

Anyway, purifying mushroom makes Jungle.

[misty lichen]

snow and desert solutions are meme items

jungle works differently with solution, green solution on mud makes normal jungle, red/purple make evil jungle, blue makes glowing mushroom. you can turn glowing mushroom biomes into jungles

[violet sierra]

this feels like

"another mod should cover this"

moment

[drowsy plank]

true

[hollow idol]

hi, solutions aren’t “simple enough to implement”, to this day vanilla 1.4.4 solutions havent gotten full astral support for this reason
that is all i have to say bye

[drowsy plank]

wait dont leave; if this is an excessive work issue, then i should (or you should, since i was told devs should handle excessive work donts) flag it, right?

[hollow idol]

i wouldnt call it an excessive work issue in the same way as like, a major new piece of content

I'd say effort-wise, it's fine

sugg itself is more debatable

[drowsy plank]

i see

[grim tusk]

And there is already

Altho aint there a jungle solution in vanilla already since 1.4.4?

Nvm its LuiAfk

Imma exclam it due to ‘other mod does this already’

[umbral gazelle]

this, in fact, is wrong, i have watched from Phantom Blood to Golden Wind

and im planning to watch Stone Ocean

[worthy fiber]

why's there a bell icon on your message

[hollow idol]

that my friend is called a silent ping

[umbral gazelle]

silent message by adding @silent before message

[worthy fiber]

what's the difference

[umbral gazelle]

silent message does not have the ping sound but still show the notification

[echo leaf]

Neato

[noble sand]

Wait, so you're telling me that the Brain rot debuff isn't considered as any type of debuffs? And the hive mind isn't immune to his own debuff??

Does that even make sense? It doesn't to me, personally

[grim tusk]

Rots your brain if you think about it

[noble sand]

Sounds like a sickness debuff to me

Or social media, but that's not an ingame mechanic

[crude geode]

New cellphone mechanic

Every time you warp back with it you take a permanent debuff

[misty lichen]

yeah, sicknesses do this i think

the only actual reason it’s not a sickness debuff is to make it completely identical to burning blood, but even that one should probably just also be sickness anyways

burning blood is not a real thing that happens either, like it’s pretty reasonable for both to be universally interpreted as “a sickness that targets your blood/brain”

[olive saddle]

my blood boils all the time

[noble sand]

Fire debuff, I recommend getting Ambrosial ampoule

[olive saddle]

too poor

[noble sand]

Sadge

Understandable though

Gl

[olive saddle]

i mean its also locked behind life alloy

and the ancient manipulator

i hvaent killed a single boss yet

[noble sand]

Skill issue, I hope you get better soon

[noble sand]

Tbf living dew works too

[median scaffold]

Can I rewrite my suggestion from a few months ago, since it didn't pass?

[glass arch]

its always fine to rewrite suggestions that hadnt passed

hell just repost it if you want

nobodys gonna care if its a repost

[north oracle]

as long as its not like the 10th time you've tried then it starts getting old

[fervent orbit]

yea

some people just cycle between a few that didnt get enough votes

speaking of, i think its time to do that

[tough ledge]

#suggestions-posting message
how unnecessary, the green solution can spread the Jungle in mushroom-grown mud.

[novel belfry]

Luckily, my “make rev+ spasm’s purple shadowflames back to cursed flames” sugg technically got partly implemented

He now just imbues shadowflames into his cursed flamethrower

[drowsy plank]

lol

[tough ledge]

#suggestions-posting message
yo, do you mind giving us a proper/comprehensive explanation other than "need I explain further?" You're making yourself look like a dunce.

@restive wharf

[restive wharf]

i might as well delete the suggestion since i've already gotten an answer by a developer

[misty lichen]

there’s probably funnier weapons that still inflict on fire/frostburn

[novel belfry]

Nah, I think the Earth is the funniest

Because it’s a fucking dev weapon

[royal tapir]

Oh hey a suggestion that would take 3 minutes to implement

[misty lichen]

how about endogenesis

[novel belfry]

An endgame dev weapon

And one I like

[misty lichen]

endogenesis is probably the coldest item you could possibly think of, and that shit inflicts frostburn

if that’s not good enough for you, how about cosmic discharge

[drowsy plank]

no trust me the 3 seconds of frostburn matter

vs the 7 seconds of nightwither

not prismatic armor too wtf man 😭

WHY DOES BLOODFLARE ARMOR INFLICT ON FIRE
IT ISNT EVEN FIRE THEMED

[misty lichen]

FUNNY ITEMS THAT STILL INFLICT ON FIRE/FROSTBURN

on fire!:

• mage bloodflare helmet fireball set bonus (post-polter, also applies to auric)
• forbidden oathblade (post-mech)
• exalted oathblade (post-prov)
• devils devastation (post-dog)

frostburn:

• frigidflash bolt (post-wof, but it does inflict hellfire???)
• ancient ice chunk (post-wof, could argue itd be too strong?)
• daedalus golem staff (post-2 mechs)
• cosmic discharge (post-dog)
• endogenesis (endgame)

both on fire and frostburn:

• devastation (postml)
• prismatic armor set bonus (post weaver)
• earth (endgame)

[misty lichen]

Magic critical strikes cause a flame explosion of three fireballs every 2 seconds.

[royal tapir]

Juicy list

[misty lichen]

have fun

[drowsy plank]

but whyyyyyyyyyyy

i hate old cal 💥

[misty lichen]

i don’t even think you ever see them, they just hit the same enemy immediately

[sleek anvil]

May all these things can be updated

[royal tapir]

I just changed Earth so this suggestion can be deleted

[sand marlin]

Clasper can use it on ranged attack at least

[misty lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-terraria-mod-calamity-ice-clasper-heart-gif-24442418

[sand marlin]

Horrible quality

[crude geode]

ok and

[royal tapir]

ice clasper

[misty lichen]

hater

[echo leaf]

ice clasper <3

[sleek anvil]

Really? Wow, thank you very much

So can I delete it?

[echo leaf]

oh wow

You changed it in response to the suggestion?

[sand marlin]

CIT quickfix in action

[misty lichen]

now surely earth won’t be the worst weapon in the game anymore

[drowsy plank]

yes

[dense locust]

is earth actually bottom 1 dev weapons rn

[echo leaf]

Earth is still a dev weapon, so it's good no matter what

[misty lichen]

it’s only crutch of viability previously was it had so much lifesteal that you were essentially invincible when hitting

[dense locust]

oh is that gone

L

[misty lichen]

they made it get affected by the lifesteal cooldown, and now i do not think a single person can beat boss rush with earth without accessory damage

[crude geode]

Earth’s lifesteal is legit the only thing I remember about it

[echo leaf]

It's funny to just suddenly recover 40 but then you have the misery of the decades-long cooldown

[misty lichen]

exoblade recovers 100 on dash hits

[dense locust]

what

[misty lichen]

it recovers 100 hp on dash powered slash hits

[dense locust]

that sounds broken
why is this the first I'm hearing of this

[misty lichen]

it goes on lifesteal cooldown for like an entire minute lol

[dense locust]

400-600 hp over the course of scal

sounds pretty good

[drowsy plank]

you also have to actually land the dash hit lol

[dense locust]

well

you dont go on a minute cooldown if you dont get the healling, correct?

[sand marlin]

Yeah no good luck hitting the dash and the blade swing right after

[royal tapir]

Spongebob fish looking in toilet

Oh, that's ProjectileID.BallofFire
Mage Bloodflare armor spawns Flower of Fire's projectile

[wide river]

Incredible

[drowsy plank]

how did it survive this long

[golden sonnet]

Agony.

[frail fox]

That’s so fire

[royal tapir]

Okay I changed all of these except Prismatic armor (because wiki was lying)
For all of them except mage Bloodflare, Cosmic Discharge, and Earth, I just changed On Fire to Hellfire and Frostburn to Frostbite
Mage Bloodflare now makes blood explosions on hit that inflict a different debuff
Cosmic Discharge I straight up removed it
Earth I changed On Fire to Holy Flames instead of Hellfire

[oblique otter]

🔥

[golden sonnet]

very good changes

[median scaffold]

That's... literally fire 🔥

(Okay, waiting to argue with people for another minor change. Less gooo)

[sand marlin]

GSD is also exclusive

[echo leaf]

Holy Flames my beloved

[median scaffold]

I know, Marnite is also a mount keybind

I can add both to the suggestion, but thought I already did "too much", so people just would skip it

And Marnite kinda has a justified point to be a mount keybind of all things, tho it would also be nice not to have to unequip my mount every time I want a funny lift to lift me

...I'll add them

[sand marlin]

I mean I don't agree with Marnite being an exception either, GSD kinda has to for Auric

[fervent orbit]

cant wait for auric to be original

also

@median scaffold include desert prowler

[median scaffold]

Oh, wait, I actually forgot about that
Thanks

All added

Actually, not all

I wanna be funny

Bruh
I wanted to write a small suggestion and... why did I almost hit a 2000 character limit??

||...would anyone actually read it? ||

[echo leaf]

YES I would

[median scaffold]

MY GUYYY (or GIIIIRLL)
Return with a review whenever you're done, please

[echo leaf]

of the keybind consistency sugg?

[median scaffold]

Yeah, anything you disagree with

Because I really doubt most of the people here in their real mind would actually read this "monstrosity" (it's not that big, mostly... boring, ig??)

[echo leaf]

Seems like a reasonable length to me

Give me a bit

[median scaffold]

Sure, I'll wait

[sleek turret]

atleast it's not a cambridge essay

220-260 words

[echo leaf]

I agree with it all

I rarely use those armor sets but last time I used Vortex it was up to and including Infernum Providence

I ended up not using the stealth mode at all (despite actively trying) since the input would fuck up flight

Adding hotkeys for them would be fantastical (and I suppose Vortex/Shroomite can keep its stealth mode with a vanilla input in addition to a hotkey… for consistency)

[median scaffold]

Shroomite, actually, doesn't have a keybind to it's stealth, making it utterly worthless in practically everyone's eyes

Didn't see anyone use it

[echo leaf]

Oh, lovely

I remember now- you have to stand still like a moron

[median scaffold]

Should I include this?

[echo leaf]

Adding an addendum suggesting Shroomite getting a hotkey for its stealth would be fine by me, but I’m not sure if they’ll act on it

[median scaffold]

I'll just write it here first, okay?

[median scaffold]

Actually, my bad
You need to stand still and not use any weapons
I think that's both a suggestion and a some kind of #1178515062030348308?

I have some kind of an idea for the suggestion, tho

[echo leaf]

Yeah, that’s aggressively terrible

[sand marlin]

Stealth isn't the main thing you use Shroomite for anyway

Stealth actually becoming more usable would make it pretty broken

[median scaffold]

Rework Shroomite armor's set bonus

Shroomite's signutare set bonus is stealth, which can be triggered while standing still and not using any weapon!... It's practically useless. Low-damage, high-firing weapons, like chain gun or vortex beater, don't beneft as much from shroomite's stealth and it's bonuses aren't that great either, with the fact how actually hard it is to active stealth in a real situation, especially in mini- and boss battles. The real case in which I see actual use for shroomite's stealth is multiplayer with a tank of some sort, that aggros bosses on themselves and leaves ranger with shroomite to deal a "nicer" damage with sniper rifles every once in a while.
But reworking it (and, maybe even, nerfing) into something else (that doesn't require player to stop everything they do and use a one use-time damage increase or use another player as a meat shield) would not only make shroomite's set bonus actually useful, but encourage players to use it for their advantages.

I think that falls under SRS, tho

[echo leaf]

i haven’t dedicated more than fifteen seconds of brain power to shroomite or anything related to it anyways

[median scaffold]

I dedicated a pretty few tens of hours of my life to translate ~30 pages of Calamity armors

And I wanna see more of them
And I wanna better them

[sand marlin]

Please do not make Shroomite into Vortex 2.0 that's just ruining the armor

[median scaffold]

Won't really argue with that claim, but something probably should be done with it??

[sand marlin]

That is a better thought yes

[echo leaf]

Yeah, in your suggestion just say “This armor set bonus exists, but it’s so actively terrible nobody uses it. pls fix”

[median scaffold]

Rather Vortex into Shroomite 2.0, tho

[sand marlin]

Most of shroomite's stealth usage comes from multiplayer and I think that's fine so it depends on what kind of rework it'd be because there's nothing actually wrong with it

[fervent orbit]

honestly i would just make this a "leave it up to the devs" sugg

and not mention making it like vortex

[sand marlin]

Something directly related to combat, at least for bosses is not going to work because the armor pieces themselves serve that role

[fervent orbit]

focusing it more on the issues will make it be more noticable and liked by devs

[median scaffold]

I changed the suggestion the second you said that

Sorry

[sand marlin]

Yeah my main point would be that there's no real reason to change shroomite set bonus, it is as harmless as it comes

[fervent orbit]

i only really do a "this is what you have to do" sugg if its a plainfully obvious answer that wont take any time

[fervent orbit]

speaking of which

[median scaffold]

You have a suggestion or smth?

[fervent orbit]

i love recycling suggestions : D

[median scaffold]

Why it wasn't added?

[sand marlin]

I should bring up my Celestial Sigil suggestion from way back

And maybe Spectral Veil

My only two real suggestions

[fervent orbit]

i think the next one i will recycle is the pbg drops one

[sand marlin]

I should probably check if it happened randomly on a wiki log I missed as well tbh

[fervent orbit]

yea lol

[sand marlin]

But that's gonna take some time

[median scaffold]

Sorry to bother y'all, but I changed the suggestion again

[sand marlin]

I checked 2.0.3.007 through 2.0.4.003 and there was nothing so it should be fine

[echo leaf]

Maybe if stealth was slower to fade out?

[median scaffold]

Probably actually nothing

[median scaffold]

Elaborate, please?
(I didn't get it)

[echo leaf]

When you break the conditions for stealth by moving, it very quickly decays

[sand marlin]

Yeah none of those refer to my suggestion

[echo leaf]

But if it did so more slowly, you could take advantage of the stealth bonuses for longer

You can get rewarded more for stopping what you’re doing and sit still

[median scaffold]

It is an idea, but I would still lead it to the devs to decide whatever should be done to shroomite's stealth

[echo leaf]

Yep

[median scaffold]

Should I add smth or upload the suggestion?

[echo leaf]

Send it!

[median scaffold]

Actually added smth, but not as much (the part about sniper rifles being better, once again)
Sent

[median scaffold]

Thanks a lot

[echo leaf]

Anytime!

[median scaffold]

And thanks both Insanity 100 and noob

[royal tapir]

@sand marlin Done

[sand marlin]

Oh

Thanks

[fervent orbit]

now do mine

🔫

[sand marlin]

I'll delete it if need be, or I can wait until it gets to voting and inform someone to confirm it

[royal tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/backhand-hoodwinked-hoodwinked2-hd-meme-gif-24300706

[royal tapir]

I mean, no reason to leave it in there really

[median scaffold]

The great CIT is here

...uhh, the joke didn't get written, go play Terraria or smth

[sand marlin]

Deleted

[median scaffold]

Nice, another CIT W

[sand marlin]

I guess I will go grab my other suggestion which is probably not an instafix

I was gonna do both but I wanted to wait it out

So that's good

I don't think I need to do minor adjustments for this one, unlike the previous

Well all I did was just change like 5-6 words anyway

[echo leaf]

Oh yeah, and potentially making the celestial sigil not post-Golem would be much appreciated
Not sure how feasible it is though

[fervent orbit]

would need an old power cell situation

[crude geode]

Doesn’t this already happen

Or did 1.4.4 fuck it up

Oh wait pillars summon

[sand marlin]

Hardcoded

[echo leaf]

😔

[coral carbon]

classic terraria having random shit be hardcoded for zero reason

[crude geode]

Lava slimes be like

[grave zinc]

@rocky hatch - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Super Dummies have Defense and Damage Reduction Commands/options]

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@fervent orbit - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Replace "Any Wings" in Celestial Tracers to Souls of Flight]

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@open gate - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a minion from the harvest staff as a pet]

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@abstract forge - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the final note of Stained Brutal calamity part 3 play when Calamitas is defeated, rather than just fade out]

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@restive wharf - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add new menu themes]

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[restive wharf]

🫡

good luck on your journey my child

[rocky hatch]

yippie

[crude geode]

🛠️

Probably

[tough ledge]

Ooh boy, I wonder who would make those themes...

[tough ledge]

I can visualize the feeling of victory and celebration for newer players with the loud trumpets

[unkempt lance]

Is this suggestion already irrelevant?

I think it is

idk, it's somewhat hard to tell

[buoyant idol]

@lone ravine That reference was removed.

[lone ravine]

Oh

[buoyant idol]

Also reference suggestions aren’t allowed.

[umbral gazelle]

*only apply to adding more reference, suggestion to remove reference is still allowed

[buoyant idol]

True, that recent suggestion.

[drowsy plank]

@lone ravine specific item suggestion + reference
please review our rules in the pins

not another boss man 🥹

[buoyant idol]

We need boss removal suggestions.

We never needed evil 2.

[errant wren]

can we just merge evil 2 into one boss

k bye again

[fervent meadow]

there was a sugg a couple weeks ago to retier to early hm but too high effort 😭

[buoyant idol]

You aren't getting away this time.

[sonic sky]

When was it removed?

[buoyant idol]

December 1st 2023.

[sonic sky]

Really that long already?

[umbral gazelle]

i cant believe murasama playername lock feature was removed 3 years ago

i feel old now

[crude geode]

👴

[echo leaf]

Damn........ no easy as cake early and midgame.

[tough ledge]

#suggestions-posting message
wait, wasn't this an example of don'ts?
@lone ravine

[grim tusk]

@sonic sky

[echo leaf]

aw yeah

[grim tusk]

Crags is down the roadmap

Next major update after Sunken Sea

[novel belfry]

new suggestion: add this emote

[drowsy plank]

do you want me to just flag it? the crags update is a pretty well known milestone, so i dont really see any point in letting this get into voting

[fervent meadow]

is there a public roadmap or smth cuz that sounds interesting to see

oh mb for the @ reply i think

[grave zinc]

@buoyant idol - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Standardize the caps of Dye Bottles]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@echo leaf - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Introduce a Meld Blob sink]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@fleet grotto - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rename/Remake Godslayer Inferno into Godslayer Electricity]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@chilly narwhal - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give players the ability to plant and manually grow Lava Lilies on Scorched Remains that are covered in Cinder Blossom Grass]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@fleet grotto - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Skeletron's head glow when he's about to shoot skulls]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[tough ledge]

wait, so is the verdict a yes or a no?

oh wait, nvm...

@fleet grotto your suggestion got rejected

it was sent to the dev team for consideration and then rejected

both of them got rejected, actually

[sonic sky]

Oh there's a road map?

My bad

[chilly narwhal]

Oh, this is simply splendid, lads.

This month is slowly getting better

[ripe owl]

Not a public one but yes

[drowsy plank]

you... really dont need to ping someone a second time for these; there's already a ping in the original denial message

regardless boohoo im shocked. it's a good idea and it already got rejected when i suggested it, so i should prolly just flag it if i see it again at this point bc it is not getting in

[tough ledge]

oh, I didn't know about that

[olive saddle]

@ eggg your rejected got suggestion

[fleet grotto]

Honestly thought this one was a good idea though

[echo leaf]

🎉

[eternal escarp]

not that im very keen on newer stuff, but im pretty sure Infernal Suevite is specifically disconnected (directly) from Brimstone Elemental since its not her ore, its just ore found in the same biome you fight her in

though the arguement for Cryonic ore still stands better, atleast from what i know

[eternal escarp]

(i guess an example is like how you can get Demonite and Crimtane without fighting EoW and BoC respectively)

[echo leaf]

Maybe the devs could just slap on +20% damage to Cryogen to rebalance it to a post-2mech boss

[drowsy plank]

cryogen rework coming 20XX

[eternal escarp]

its interchangable with the rest of the bosses at the tier

(technically)

[echo leaf]

i’m holding my breath

[drowsy plank]

not to the fight but to everything EXCEPT the fight

[echo leaf]

aww

[eternal escarp]

i was about to say

i doubt the fight will get any major changes (i hope)

[drowsy plank]

the fight is fine but everything around it is

fucking awful

[eternal escarp]

insert devplans.jpeg or whatever it was iirc

byeah

Cryonic is a really messy situation but i think Infernal Suevite doesnt really connect anymore to brimmy and doesnt need to be reconnected

[echo leaf]

I mean

[drowsy plank]

hopefully at least

that's what i keep hearing

[echo leaf]

If I had to assume, every boss is gonna get some extra polish in the future

Naw, keep it in

[eternal escarp]

technically doesnt hurt to have it, regarding cryonic

[echo leaf]

Stars can indicate how big of an issue to the community

[eternal escarp]

itd prolly just get met with "we agree and probably do something eventually"

and ye that

[drowsy plank]

brimmy resprite coming after they add yharim

[eternal escarp]

insert "so many issues must fix them all immediately GRAHHHH"

[drowsy plank]

so true

if i was a dev id simply fix them all

[eternal escarp]

one (or i guess like 2 and a half idk how many will be tackled in the SS update) issue at a time

[wide river]

0.7 issues

[buoyant idol]

Cit 2: Cog edition.

[wide river]

They both start with C

Coincidence? I think not

[sand marlin]

Coincidence also starts with C

[buoyant idol]

What really needs to happen is to hire me for a week to handle the suggestion purgatory.

Coding experience: Python only
Team skills: Will become boss and mismanage half of everything
Speed: Yes
Ideas: Superb

I should be a dev

[fervent meadow]

get him on the team guys👍

application is fire 🔥

[olive saddle]

The underground snow in calamity has always felt off post cryo. I cant put my finger on it but this comes close.

Please never change the rimehounds hurt sound by the way

[fleet grotto]

Please change the rimehound name back to angry dog

[drowsy plank]

ill meet you halfway and call it very annoyed canine

[grim tusk]

The fucking too much memory being cached for no fucking reason issue

(Apparently Ozz found out what may be the problem but no clue as to how to solve it yet)

[drowsy plank]

oh sick

[grim tusk]

If it gets fixed potato pcs will be able to play again perhaps

Instead of needing at least 8 gb of ram

[royal tapir]

Ozz knows what is causing it

[grim tusk]

But no solution has been found yet

[royal tapir]

Ya

Fortunately there shouldn't be any issues on the public version

[grim tusk]

(There is though, just got way worse with the merge shenanigans in dev)

[royal tapir]

I disabled what was causing it in 2.0.4.3 due to suspecting it causing a memory leak (with no hardline proof but yeah)

[sand marlin]

@eager ridge question. Does this still happen when you keep holding DOWN?

[fervent orbit]

mm yess i love holding DOWN

[eager ridge]

yep, still gets cut off

[sand marlin]

Ok

[sand marlin]

Well that's the key for falling through platforms normally so it would make sense

[median scaffold]

I fucking activated wulfrum's ability 2 times today on the ropes

[echo leaf]

moment

[buoyant idol]

@upper fox We cannot remove bosses, please read pinned post before posting.

[upper fox]

Where is it pinned

[buoyant idol]

All suggestion channels.

[upper fox]

I'm too add to go find it but I won't ask you to remove the twins again but I will hope

[north oracle]

@upper fox You need to provide actual reasoning for why the boss should be nerfed, and you can't just suggest for a boss to be removed.

[upper fox]

Because I keep dying to it and it's annoying

[buoyant idol]

It's a vanilla boss and thus cannot be removed at all.

[drowsy plank]

im just deleting it

[buoyant idol]

What difficulty?

[upper fox]

Revengance

[unkempt lance]

Master or Expert?

[buoyant idol]

Maybe check #help-advice-read-pins for assistance or do another mech boss first.

[upper fox]

Master

[buoyant idol]

Well that's the issue.

Master revengence is above Expert Death to my knowledge.

[upper fox]

Oops im 40 hours too late on thatnone

That's f worded up

[buoyant idol]

If it's too tough there are mods such as Fargo's Mutant Mod to toggle Master and change it down to Expert. Master Rev is reserved, as the name implies, masters at the game.

[upper fox]

I mean I'm not no scrub but shit

The boss is on my ass like I had a 20 dollar bill sticking out of it

[buoyant idol]

An upcoming update might be adding a warning about Master, for now I recommend finding alternative bosses to fight or lowering the difficulty. If future bosses are easier, perhaps make a suggestion about what needs to be nerfed about the twins.

[upper fox]

The speed and the amount of dashes

[buoyant idol]

I'd recommend moving this to #help-advice-read-pins, perhaps other people know more about this.

[novel belfry]

i should interrupt my death ranger playthrough and instead do a death master playthrough

i already suffered through rev gfb

i can suffer through this

[sand marlin]

#suggestions-posting message this also needs to be done with the AotC line btw I noticed it pretty often

[crude geode]

right clicks tend to be pretty funky

I've noticed it even on something like the wulfrum prosthesis and graves

[gray bone]

#suggestions-posting message sort of like how a lot of games let you set an outline or glow for different entities (enemy, ally, yourself) in accessibility settings

[rocky hatch]

Exactly this, and it's usually not something that I'd think about or feel like I struggle with personally in games, but with calamity bosses killing ya in like 3 hits, having loads more projectiles, as well as being a lot more chaotic/fast paced in general, it can be a whole lot more problematic compared to something that is a less punishing experience

[sand marlin]

It's a pretty noticeable glaring red in Lighting:Retro since I use that but Idk what the difference is on other lighting modes so might not be a bad idea

Cal bosses don't kill you in 3 hits or anything close though

[rocky hatch]

3 fast hits as summoner usually equals death in my experience with the combination of DoTs debuffs

[sand marlin]

Doubt. Though there is something especially more dangerous about chainhits nowadays due to the defense damage changes but no I don't think even summoner gets three hit to death still

At around post DoG summoner is unreasonably tanky as well for some reason

With just Silva armor you are pretty safe thanks to DSR being your secondary main accessory for some reason and then Phantomic Artifact making you tankier on top of that, in combination with Sponge you can basically never break the shield in one hit without needing any more investment

[gray bone]

i'm blanking what is dsr

oh nvm dark sun ring

[violet sierra]

and if you do invest more

lol

[sand marlin]

There's also Fearmonger for overkill

[rocky hatch]

you are right in this case but you are getting into specific setups for specific bosses which is cherrypicking a bit

[violet sierra]

is fearmonger viable compared to auric or no

if auric has silva revive i imagine not, ive never used caster auric sets

[gray bone]

auric does have silva revive

[violet sierra]

didnt insanity just list a completely standard build

[sand marlin]

Yeah, it's not a specific setup, it's a specific stage of the game

It doesn't get any worse later

[violet sierra]

Sponge is an auto include no matter the class

[rocky hatch]

it gets worse earlier tho

[sand marlin]

Summoner does have the worst matchup on DoG though

[rocky hatch]

DoG wasn't referenced at all 😮

[sand marlin]

Other than that it still sits at a solid spot before and after

[violet sierra]

but kike when are you getting killed in like 3 hits before dog

[rocky hatch]

PBG with hydrothermic / spooky armor going for primary damage accessories

[violet sierra]

Thats a build issue, you can use OOA gear for pbg

[gray bone]

okay but haven't you just done this yourself obsoleek

[sand marlin]

No Hydro should be fine

[gray bone]

regardless, i do think omniscience should be better

[violet sierra]

isnt hydro summoner the helmet with literally no defense? idk

[gray bone]

although idk if we need more config options

[sand marlin]

It's still the standard armor

If we're talking about a standard build for PbG, let me have a look

[rocky hatch]

You could be right, although the issue brought up was unrelated to it. I don't think it's fair to say "it can't happen" when it can happen depending on setup but thats just my brain

[violet sierra]

i think valhalla is available for pbg

[sand marlin]

Nobody would use valhalla

[gray bone]

i love OOA armours so much

although i only ever use t2 most of the time

[rocky hatch]

ngl I sleep on OOA armors so maybe I'm slept

[sand marlin]

Anybody who uses valhalla is automatically a minority and there isn't denying that

[gray bone]

yeah most of the playerbase has never touched OOA

[rocky hatch]

OOA is kinda a pain if im being honest

[sand marlin]

Like, I probably would use it on a whim or something but you can't justify someone using OOA gear on a standard build

[violet sierra]

crazy because the sentries at that stage are cracked

[rocky hatch]

Just not super enjoyable sometimes

[sand marlin]

4 relatively consecutive hits (2 dashes 2 rockets) brought me down to 280/700~ combined with the DoT so I think this is a build issue on your side, may have been lacking Living Dew which is a pretty generally defensive item

[rocky hatch]

Oh it can definitely be attributed to build, my argument is the phrasing of they don't kill you in 3 which implied there were no cases

[sand marlin]

(Ignore the irrelevant pots they're there from testing other things), candle of choice was vigorous not resilient either

[sand marlin]

I fully believe that there is no such case so I insist. Unless it is chainhits from a particularly dangerous attack then it should never happen with standard gear

And dangerous attacks are usually more easily avoided than most as they aren't as common so the error of leading up to there is especially low

[rocky hatch]

I think we may be speaking two different languages in terms how we are viewing things but thats okay

although I respect the testing etc

[misty lichen]

this also affects caustic staff but im too lazy to get donor permission

[gray bone]

i agree with this suggestion tbh

the use of flasks rather than raw materials seems bizarre

unless the implication is that the contents of the flasks are poured over the weapons to imbue them?

but flasks are shown to be temporary in game, so that makes little sense to me

[fervent orbit]

you put the flask on the sword duh

[buoyant idol]

Then why does it not run out?

[sand marlin]

I thought it was like, poured on the sword

That's usually how they coat things right

Well except, that's what the buff is supposed to do

Just don't question why you can coat the same sword with different things without having to redo the entire weapon :D

[umbral gazelle]

it is to make sure you have killed queen bee

[misty lichen]

this is such mental gymnastics ngl

you can do the exact same thing with just the raw materials

the only thing the flask introduces is water and glass, why would any of that make it more effective

[violet sierra]

uh

you use an imbuing station

so no i dont think thats how it works

clearly some magic shit is happening

[misty lichen]

what’s in the imbuing station

[drowsy plank]

imbue

[sand marlin]

Are you telling me you're gonna coat your weapon with stingers , depending on the method it may work like if the station is known for extracting it or something

[umbral gazelle]

imbue the glass with poision

[violet sierra]

well given that the Flak of Cursed Flames doesnt look just like cursed flames in a bottle, i imagine it takes what you put in and makes a liquid out of it

which you then coat your weapon with

[misty lichen]

ok this one’s just dumb because the weapon doesn’t even inflict poison. it inflicts acid venom

it shouldn’t use stingers regardless

[sand marlin]

Okay, same thing with fangs

[misty lichen]

nor poison flask

[drowsy plank]

acting like blade of grass doesnt poison using the stingers directly

[misty lichen]

it’s just like, with this same logic could say venom bullets and arrows should use the flask instead of vials of venom

[errant wren]

it's just like really old flasks that have started to deteriorate and infuse into the glass

[sand marlin]

I'm not acting like it, I am aware that it should make more sense

[misty lichen]

this isn’t real logic

[violet sierra]

if you want to talk about real logic

[errant wren]

anyways time for me to go back to lurking

[violet sierra]

i can point at a milion things in this game

that make no sense

[misty lichen]

and that’s not even the main point, the main point is using a potion in a weapon recipe is dumb lol

[drowsy plank]

caustic edge could use spider fangs

[sand marlin]

Yeah that I do agree with, I just pointed out something else

[drowsy plank]

would make acid venom make more sense

[violet sierra]

Why though?

[misty lichen]

it’s a potion

not a material

[violet sierra]

that makes no sense to me

[sand marlin]

Irregular usage of item

[violet sierra]

why could the potion not be used to make something

[misty lichen]

i am an advocate for goofier item recipes but not potions

[sand marlin]

It's not like, bad to use flasks as a material but if there's like one or two items that do it then they can be cut off to fit consistency Ig

[violet sierra]

really?

i thought it was way more

[drowsy plank]

new idea; gun that uses swiftness potions as component

[violet sierra]

if its really just one or two then fine i guess

[misty lichen]

it’s two (three counting donor) weapons

[sand marlin]

I don't remember all cal recipes but I'm certain there's like none in vanilla

[violet sierra]

im just a fan of multi-step crafting recipes

I make my bases not have all the stations at one spot

so its fun to have to go aroudn the base

crafting different stuffg lmao

[misty lichen]

four counting dev items, but i don’t think the rainbow party cannon recipe is supposed to make sense

[drowsy plank]

that... sounds awful

why would you not keep your crafting stations in one place

that just sounds really annoying lmfao

[misty lichen]

fuck it bro rainbow party cannon should require 9999 confetti

[drowsy plank]

old cal ass recipe

[misty lichen]

it’s funny and fun to have goofy item recipes when it works

[violet sierra]

its fun to have a base that makes some semblence of sense, its kinda immersive i guess? lmao

dunno

i just like it

[misty lichen]

i will say it is fun to do that in like long playthroughs

[violet sierra]

I always mkae a dimmly lit potion room in the basement

byeah

if theres onlyt a couple things that use flasks in recipe

i agree then

i thoguht there was more

[misty lichen]

why would i put my imbuing station right next to my anvil made of mythril at the main house? i gotta go into the dark creepy witch dungeon bro

[violet sierra]

ok but like actually having potion crafting away from eveyrthing else makes the most sense alongisde the cooking vat

you consume that shit

listen i dont know want to find out

what happens when a bit of the auric got in my potion

and then i drink it

[drowsy plank]

tfw make your cooking pot out of lead

[misty lichen]

youd die, hope this helps

[olive saddle]

Projectile vomit style type rejection lmao

[drowsy plank]

does

does equipping soaring insignia, or boots, or frog leg, or aero stone do that?

im pretty sure there is a reason that isn't done

and im not sure why it would work like that

[buoyant idol]

@gaunt sapphire Please don't talk in #suggestions-posting, that's what this channel is for.

[harsh echo]

they dont

ive amended the message

also what is the reason

[drowsy plank]

lmao gearsaw cutting me off

but yeah please send responses here

[drowsy plank]

my assumption is dynamic tooltips for wingstats is probably hard to do

[distant gyro]

no its not hard to do

[drowsy plank]

huh

okay well i guess this suggestion is valid then

[distant gyro]

i just think base stats is preferable

[drowsy plank]

hm

yeah but that's not really consistent with how weapons work either

[distant gyro]

if you want completed stats of post-calculations flight time, the stat meter is there

[drowsy plank]

their base damage and crit update dynamically with your gear, even if i think that base stats would be more useful

that is also true

it does mean the suggestion is still valid tho

[harsh echo]

can there be a config to show base stats vs dynamic stats

like hold shift and hover an item

or smth

[drowsy plank]

this, too, could be a suggestion

[buoyant idol]

My speed is unmatched.

[drowsy plank]

indeed...

[serene vapor]

What’s funny is that I suggested this a while ago for the Wingman and the entire line got reworked

Also, Oblivion (yo-yo, dropped by calclone) has the same problem

[royal tapir]

🔒

[dense locust]

🔑

[serene vapor]

the battle

[crude geode]

This too is suggestion posting

[buoyant idol]

Honestly a cool suggestion. Might be too specific but there aren't enough difficulty changes for normal enemies.

[echo leaf]

Neat, yeah!

[high nest]

Oh I really like that, as long as its not biome mimic level damage for that point in the game

[olive saddle]

They're actually insanely wacky difficulty changes btw

Ravagers 2nd phase is an expert+ thing. The one with weak petrification

[buoyant idol]

I said for normal enemies.

[olive saddle]

Oh fair

[potent raft]

i was thinking that since they do 60 damage in expert the slam would probably do like 75 damage.

[buoyant idol]

I recommend not specifying specifics in the suggestion like that, developers will balance it as needed.

[violet sierra]

I couldnt figure out how to word this sugg perfectly

so if its confusing let me know

[sand marlin]

@violet sierra more elaboration on what revives there are exactly that should/shouldn't be stacking together

Because like I don't think there are any

[violet sierra]

arent there only 2

i dont know every item in the game tbf

[sand marlin]

Nebulous Core, Silva, Permafrost's Concoction

So like

Core and Concoction?

[violet sierra]

also im not advocating for stacking

im just saying to give the revive tooltip the same treatment as dodges

[sand marlin]

Yes I realize that

[violet sierra]

where it says they cooldown is universal

[sand marlin]

Silva stacks with Nebulous Core I believe but

Not sure about Concoction

If that truly does use a global cooldown shared with Core then yeah this would work

[violet sierra]

oh people in cmt told me that they arent stackable

[sand marlin]

Otherwise I think revives shouldn't even be mentioned in globals

[violet sierra]

so thats why i made the sugg

[sand marlin]

Names

[violet sierra]

I think Noob is the one that said it

let me check

[sand marlin]

Hm

She might be right if so, I'll check either way I'm in game already

[violet sierra]

thanks!

[sand marlin]

Silva and Core stack

And so does Concoction

[violet sierra]

noob was yapping wtf

betrayed

[sand marlin]

@fervent orbit 💥

[dense locust]

Imagine spreading misinformation on the internet

[sand marlin]

All three used up

One by one

[violet sierra]

i hope we get a config to move that at some point

[fervent orbit]

💥

[fervent orbit]

🫵 💥

[dense locust]

Shark

[fervent orbit]

this is me when i find cit

for no reason i just wanna blow him up

[royal tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/but-it-refused-gif-12445164615798778906

[gray bone]

i can't tell if that pizza is made of chocolate or just thoroughly charred

[dense locust]

….i think that’s a cookie

[errant wren]

that is in fact a pizza

[potent raft]

ok

[odd geyser]

peak

[buoyant idol]

@brisk harness Discussion about suggestions should be kept in this channel.

[drowsy plank]

^

also if that is a suggestion it needs to be properly formatted

[crude geode]

@wintry gale is this asking for phantom spirits and possibly dungeon spirits to no longer naturally spawn upon the two bosses’ deaths?

[glass arch]

no its asking for them to be unable to spawn phantom and dungeon spirits when they die

not everything

just them

[fleet grotto]

i think that's just how the spawning condition work

[crude geode]

That would make sense but the wording isn’t really clear

[fleet grotto]

they have a chance to spawn on any enemies with high enough hp iirc

[wintry gale]

except for phantoms and dungeon spirits

the fact that is possible to dungeon spirit spawn from phantoms but the opposite isnt is something i will address into #1052323733961977947

[versed cape]

@wintry gale could you add the simple reasoning that spirits randomly spawning mid fight is fucking stupid, annoying and unfair

oh wait ig its not an issue in base cal

nvm then theyll never change it

[wintry gale]

that reasoning only applies to infernum

[versed cape]

youd have to ask infernum devs but they abandoned the mod havent they

[echo leaf]

Yeah

[wintry gale]

well it wont cost give it a try

[grave zinc]

@little sentinel - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Elemental Blaster sound quieter.]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[little sentinel]

Noice

[dense locust]

Ele blaster rework real?

[buoyant idol]

#459252132068065280 message Yes.

[median scaffold]

Ah, yes, #unknown
My favorite channel

[buoyant idol]

This.

[sleek turret]

jesse wgat the fuck are you talking about

[novel belfry]

this is probably the single funniest asset submission i've ever seen

and it got accepted

just an outright rework proposal for the weapon, with some specifications

and yet the weapon universally got accepted

[fervent orbit]

it was so accepted they accepted the spriter

[harsh echo]

they did cook on that one

[echo leaf]

[wide river]

This image speaks true

[novel belfry]

i thought this was an emote

[harsh echo]

we all did tbh

[royal tapir]

Hmm...
It would be very simple to make Phantom Spirits not spawn, just add a check in their spawn condition for if the killed NPC is a boss
Dungeon Spirits however would certainly require an IL edit

[buoyant idol]

Can’t you copy the code that prevents the spirits from spawning on spirits?

[royal tapir]

What code

[buoyant idol]

I thought there’d be something in vanilla that checks if the thing dying is a dungeon spirit and if so not to run the check on it but considering the issue that list would have to have bosses added and thus require an IL edit.

[royal tapir]

This is the vanilla code responsible for spawning Dungeon Spirits

And this is the Calamity code responsible for spawning Phantom Spirits

As I said above, fixing Phantom Spirits would be as easy as adding !npc.boss to its long conditional list
However, Dungeon Spirits would need an IL edit in order to detour its spawn code the same way

[echo leaf]

It's so cool having the devs actively talk with the community this way

Thank you for that :)

[buoyant idol]

Wait, I have a question in this case. Why doesn’t the Phantom Spirit code use the same as the Dungeon Spirit code with swapped variables?

[olive saddle]

Honestly i kinda find it funny that phantom spirits can spawn from polterghast and ceaseless

[royal tapir]

I prefer being transparent about stuff

[royal tapir]

It pretty much is structured the same way, don't be fooled by the vertically-aligned conditionals or the extra random selection of Phantom Spirit type

[buoyant idol]

Oh, that makes sense. I don’t have coding experience so it looked different.

[royal tapir]

I could break down the code in English if that would be helpful

[buoyant idol]

Thank you, but I think I could solve it on my own.

[royal tapir]

Alright

[short stream]

How long does it usually take to get feedback on a suggestion?

[harsh echo]

people post feedback here all the time

[short stream]

I'm saying specifically from Sugg bot

[olive saddle]

Abt 2 weeks

[short stream]

Okay, so just about time to see what's done with my suggestion then. Thanks for letting me know

[ripe owl]

I could've sworn to God I've seen some Phantoms spawning out of DSpirits

[sand marlin]

[oblique otter]

bloodstones dont drop from ravager anymore?

[cloud obsidian]

they do

also brimmy and calclone do not have new drops nor are buffed

[olive saddle]

@stiff swallow ravager still drops bloodstone, as he gets buffed post prov. the part about cal clone and brimmy are true though

[stiff swallow]

...the only one of the three i didnt fight maybe i shouldnt fuckin assume that ..

i didnt notice ravager in the r-browser tho

[sand marlin]

It drops from the necromantic bag

[stiff swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-duh-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-gif-21849807

[high nest]

'Bloodstone seeps forth from Azafure's depths' or something would be more clear and also cooler sounding than what it is

'what if that sounds like its a new mined ore' well you know where you would be going to mine it, so once you get there you get attacked and see it is in fact dropped, or whatever

[little sentinel]

thats actually so great

and ngl i like that rework

[little sentinel]

oh sheesh this guy has access to a channel we dont

[olive saddle]

Its a server

Cal art server

[little sentinel]

oh

im dumb

[olive saddle]

Dont worry lol

Discord os ambiguous

[little sentinel]

fr

[violet sierra]

Laser velocity is dependant on how far you are from DoG

and increasing the velocity would make DoG, a boss people already dislike atm, even more frustrating

[umbral gazelle]

stay close to DoG after laser wall end
he ungodly contact dmg you with his head
running away from DoG after laser wall end
the laser from previous laser wall kill you
its a fair fair situation

[drowsy plank]

@hearty needle that isn't reasoning and is also wrong anyway

[whole tundra]

#suggestions-posting message
Hidden boss does not equal official boss

[fervent orbit]

ur reward for pw is halibut cannon

[drowsy plank]

you can't use the fan wiki as a basis for ingame logic, and also yes it's a hidden boss not a real boss; cirrus and lorde dont have trophies

[fleet grotto]

except they won't drop because they only have a 25% chance to drop and when they do they drop in very low quantities
me personally whenever i go to the crags i get like 3 bloodstone total after 15 minutes

[fervent orbit]

no hekate trophy wat a scam smh,,,,

[hearty needle]

ph well lma

[hearty needle]

isnt tit official?

typo

[drowsy plank]

it's the official wiki but

[hearty needle]

the .gg

[drowsy plank]

what's on there is still a wiki

which means it's created by the fans, not the devs usually

[hearty needle]

ah

tbh i dont care about this my friend just can’t get verified

[little sentinel]

it really wouldn't, if anything, the slow laser speed makes DoG terribly annoying when he does the incorporeal laser wall thingy

[drowsy plank]

while the devs are very active on there, there's stuff like someone suggesting using aether's whisper post-SCal which is
just dumb

[drowsy plank]

if you have an issue with the server please direct your issues to @sonic torrent

[hearty needle]

oh they juat dont have a phone

[violet sierra]

arent the laser walls always the same speed?

[drowsy plank]

have them message @sonic torrent

[little sentinel]

the problem is they are very slow, meaning the actual laser attack doesnt quite finish until after DoG becomes corporeal again, letting him either A) get a cheap hit on you with his head or B) get a cheap hit on you with lasers

[hearty needle]

ok

[drowsy plank]

the lasers should probably accelerate more and despawn quicker yeah

[little sentinel]

they bleed into other attacks and it is very frustrating

i wish the lasers were more like eol's lasers

[violet sierra]

all of dogs normal lasers arent a massive problem

they're lame but you can just run away

[drowsy plank]

yeah i was gonna bring her up

she has acceleration like DoG should and the projectiles despawn in a proper manner

even provi has this

[little sentinel]

well yeah, until they bleed into laser walls and get cheap hits on you (which doesn't happen much, but sometimes)

[little sentinel]

fr

especially in death mode with how fast DoG moves, he can get a huge hit on you before the lasers are done

[violet sierra]

ive personally neve rhad this be a problem in my recollection

by the time hes charging the grid is over

[little sentinel]

what difficulties do you play on?

[violet sierra]

Exp Death

[little sentinel]

alr, so same im doing rn

strange you've never ran into this issue

[violet sierra]

it probably is an issue

[errant cradle]

Probably depends on how you dodge the attack itself

[violet sierra]

beucase this boss is terrible imo, im just lucky i guess

[little sentinel]

the biggest problem is how the lasers bleed into other attacks

[errant cradle]

Laser Walls are meant to have you be stationary and find spaces within the grid
so if you aren't doing that and are instead running away from them for example you'll probably encounter that

[violet sierra]

I really dont know what you mean by lasers bleeding into other attacks

[errant cradle]

Or like fallgodding the attack for another example

[violet sierra]

is your arena really small or something

[little sentinel]

i usually do that, but because of how slow the lasers are, by the time dog starts charging again, there are still lasers about

my arena is half the world in length

i think its fairly large

[violet sierra]

if you stand still you should not have an issue of lasers being around when dog is charging

[little sentinel]

then why do i?

[violet sierra]

im not sure

are you overcorrecting when dodging DoG?

[little sentinel]

dog needs to take some notes from eol smh

[violet sierra]

and flying into them

[little sentinel]

no, not really

[errant cradle]

I mean the lasers do last a while so I can kinda see it happening

They stay for around 10 seconds iirc?

[little sentinel]

i dont know the exact timing but they last far too long

[violet sierra]

I agree only on the laser walls

[little sentinel]

they bleed into other attacks and DoG starts charging before the laser walls/grids are over

well the grids aren't as much of an issue

[violet sierra]

all other lasers on dog are fine

you can just run away

[little sentinel]

little lasers are only issues if they bleed into walls/grids

[violet sierra]

fine as in, they dont bleed over

beucase the way you dodge them is just running away

[little sentinel]

I've already said, that is not how i dodge

oh you mean small lasers

im dumb

[violet sierra]

yes the samll lasers

not the grid

you should run from the small lasers

[little sentinel]

small lasers yeah, they are not issues at all until they bleed into other attacks

like if they are very close in timing to laser grids/walls

[violet sierra]

but they dont becuase you should be far enough away that they cant even reach you

[little sentinel]

it doesnt happen every time, but the timings do overlap

[violet sierra]

and im pretty sure that they wont bleed into laser grids unless you force the 20% wall at a really bad time

but its not hard to hold dps to avoid that

[little sentinel]

it doesn't just happen with the 20% wall

[errant cradle]

DoG has like 3 attacks max so I'm interested in hearing which attacks specifically they've bled into for you

[violet sierra]

yeah this

[little sentinel]

the small laser attacks tend to bleed into the laser grid and laser wall attacks

if the timing is right

[violet sierra]

I feel like ive never seen that

the laser walls are on a set timer

so

[misty lichen]

send any clip of them bleeding in

[errant cradle]

Yea ^

[little sentinel]

i will try

[drowsy plank]

@crystal agate way too specific suggestion

[crystal agate]

Oh, I’ll delete it then

I thought it would be fine but I guess not

[little sentinel]

also, the lasers from grid/wall last way too long after attack is over

so if you are unlucky, they cause issues dodging dogs charges

[drowsy plank]

i mean you very thoroughly outlined specific implementation, rather than just asking for calamity town pets or something

[violet sierra]

i defintely agree though laser grids are really weird and dont fit the vibe of the attack

laser grid lasers should move across the screen almost insantly

imo

[little sentinel]

i like laser grids, i dont like how their lasers last so long

[little sentinel]

thats how most lasers should be

[violet sierra]

do not agree with that at all

slow moving projectilesa re fun to weave through

[little sentinel]

until dog charges at you mid-weaving

[violet sierra]

you should not be weaving through any lasers in dogs fight, unless you count laser walls

[little sentinel]

i count laser walls obviously, why would i not?