suggestions-discussion

[scenic pine]

What about just addons that have more close dev association like VCMM, Catalyst, and CalVal

[drowsy plank]

are you

calling calval and catalyst small

[scenic pine]

Wiat I forgot to remove that cause I changed the message

Fucked that one up hold on

[scenic pine]

And no,

[drowsy plank]

considering they are
on the dev team
if they wanted that they could just

ask?

there is a reason they're addons

i dont think cal advertises thorium despite having support, the same way fargo doesn't advertise its DLCs for others mods either

[scenic pine]

True yeah

Then I feel like the best one to have would be VCMM honestly, since its more of an extra music mod and not a huge content mod like the others. but yeah they could just ask if they wanted it promoted

I'll delete my suggestion ig since, well yeah

[drowsy plank]

im pretty sure the tesla part may or may not be reflected more in the future design of the armor when it stops just being 3 other armor sets in a trench coat

[misty lichen]

i mean i would say it’s already reflected well enough

wired-hemmed visage, space helmet

[muted cradle]

You know what'd be cool

a craftable auric ore variant that just bounces you and npcs around

without dealing any damage

[tender crater]

So, auric ore + pink gel or smth like that?

[proper granite]

@odd bison ravager's going to be re-tiered up to post providence i believe so there wouldnt be a good place to put ravager armor

yharim is planned to be added already

as for the armors you arent really supposed to suggest specific item additions, but you can explain why there *should * be more armors there (example: i think there should be more armor choices post-moonlord because being tied to the three major auric armor components is a bit monotonous)

[sand marlin]

You can only suggest one thing per sugg anyway

So this is just a No

[muted cradle]

Yeah ig

[lucid marsh]

"auric Tesla" actually makes sense because it's redirecting the auric rejection lightning power, I think

[errant wind]

Me when can’t suggest a vanity set (because ref)

[restive wharf]

Now make the gore bounce too

[odd bison]

We don’t know if yharim will be fightable boss or just npc

[cloud obsidian]

We do tho

[odd bison]

I live under a rock and don’t know

[cloud obsidian]

If yharim was just an npc that would be the biggest tease in history imo

[odd bison]

Would be cool if we fight him in different dimension just like DoG after resprite

[floral yoke]

Dragon Aerie:

[restive wharf]

It would be cool if there were some floating pieces of draedon's trash floating in the space layer

Would make sense if draedon also shot things into space as an alternative to dumping things into the ocean

Maybe even some old or broken satellites

[coral carbon]

also Auric Tesla Armor just objectively sounds cooler than Auric Armor

[proper granite]

hell yeah broken satellite floating through space layer

you shoot it and draedon materials come out

[bright crag]

I feel like, due to the Planetoids, Draedon's satellites would be higher up than you can go

[proper granite]

well theyre not really broken satellites if theyre still in their normal orbit

[restive wharf]

At least floating scraps and stuff

[proper granite]

and in video game fictionland where gravity is like a thousand times stronger than it should be there are plenty of planetoids to gravitationally pull satellites towards them

[proper granite]

a orbital debris field of some type being shown would be phenomenally cool because its literally a type of pollution caused by runaway scientific progress, its thematically perfect for draedon's character and would give him more influence in a biome that makes sense for him to be there

[fervent orbit]

mf really is on a crusade to make everything be affected by auric ore

[sleek turret]

Can't wait for code strings be affected by Auric Rejection so the game explodes or something

[floral yoke]

Lmao

[umbral gazelle]

make auric ore reject pickaxe and knock player's pickaxe always since the pickaxe isnt worthy for the auric

[neat linden]

make your pc be affected by auric rejection, so it explodes when it tries to render the ore

[umbral gazelle]

make the moment you get auric ore from titanium crate you got yeeted away because the ore is in your hand while not being worthy

[hybrid steeple]

zombie pinball

[umbral gazelle]

and make it if you have auric ore in your inventory without wearing auric equipment you get constantly yeeted because your not worthy

[buoyant idol]

Pusheen cooked again.

[wide river]

Minor problem

It interacting with only friendly people and golf balls doesn't sit right, because the enemies are being left out.
Considering these aren't publicly in-game yet this technically shouldn't be part of the reasoning imo

[floral yoke]

My problem is I feel like making enemies interact with it would be a lot more complicated than npcs

Also like Enchilada said, that reasoning does fall into future content suggs

[buoyant idol]

Make it only fighter AI.

[misty lichen]

why specifically that one

could just be any enemy with tile collision and no knockback immunity

[topaz light]

They should make it spesfically blue slimes trust

Also to avoid the future content suggestions rule you might want to just remove the first little bit at the start and end of your suggestion and replace with different reasoning

[drowsy plank]

auric ore farms

[floral yoke]

Who needs summons and lava traps, auric ore meta

[frail fox]

Auric jungle temple with auric traps

[wide river]

Old lore Yharim be like

[frail fox]

True

[royal tapir]

Peak

[drowsy plank]

be careful you might accidentally end up making the jungle temple fun somehow

[frail fox]

No need to buff Golem when you can make the temple hard but good

[buoyant idol]

Temple is hard, but it’s so easy to get to the end because it’s so short.

[golden sonnet]

I just hoik straight into the golem room because it takes like 5 seconds and the rest of the temple is boring

[sleek turret]

The loot compensates some grinding if you need to do so but other than that it's quite easy to go through

As long as you use a dangerense potion or have something to enable wire view, though

[golden sonnet]

enable wire view doesn't work in temple

[sleek turret]

They changed that?

Huh

[wide river]

1.4.4 change iirc

[sleek turret]

I see

Atleast you have dangerense which provides some info regarding where are traps which I feel like they're the annoying part of the temple

[golden sonnet]

@fervent orbit "so for consistency it should be pointed to the right." but you are arguing it should be left

[misty lichen]

💀

[fervent orbit]

SHBIUEJDGHRBKNVSDFKLNRBGMV KJLMDFSXCJMNB HRKL<>dftgn k,/lmbh.m,x#
}DGF?CV:>hbn'

SHUSHJ

[sleek turret]

Icicle Arrows 2

[fervent orbit]

[wide river]

More than you think

[sleek turret]

Suggestion of the Year

[wide river]

This is either going to get Icicle Arrow level of votes or perform averagely
There is no in-between

[sleek turret]

This is a really quick fix tbf

[fervent orbit]

I MUST

[wide river]

Or the third option: CIT implementing it before it reaches voting

[fervent orbit]

I SHALL

[sleek turret]

Just horizontally mirror the sprite?

[fervent orbit]

I WILL BE FAMOUS

[fervent orbit]

yes

done

[sleek turret]

See it's that easy

[frail fox]

Calamity saved

[worldly sparrow]

both have been marked as implemented

and im p sure videos of both have even been posted in #calamity-update-talk

[worldly sparrow]

time to remove that bit and reuse the same reasoning the third time in a row then :D

[drowsy plank]

wacky

[wide river]

Future content's future content, I'm not making an exception even for this

[drowsy plank]

not like it's very hard to fix

[worldly sparrow]

yeah its alr fixed

[royal tapir]

Nah let’s keep it

Chaotic neutral

[wide river]

So real

[crude geode]

We should have kept icicle arrow flipped

[sleek turret]

The Graverstoner

[novel belfry]

thats an

interesting suggestion...

i dont know what to say

[drowsy plank]

@median geyser no specific item suggestions please

i know this aint exactly our usual SISs but this is just way too specific in terms of implementation and has like. 0 actual reasoning

[sleek turret]

It's like throwing bricks

[grizzled dome]

I had a random idea, but before I post it, I want to double-check that it hasn't already been posted because I feel like it has? And I'm not even sure I personally would use it that much, because I'm a magic storage addict. But, the basic suggestion would be some way to make it easier to intentionally create a graveyard biome; the changes to make it so *accidental graveyards don't spawn are neat, but sometimes you want ecto mist.

[fervent orbit]

yes, graveyards are being lowered to 13

(next update btw)

[grizzled dome]

that's both good and apropos

[misty lichen]

also there’s gravestone recipes

[bright crag]

^

[novel belfry]

aww man

i knew it had to break SOME rule but like

thats a really funny idea

its the kind that red would add to terraria because someone asked for it and then chippygaming decides to post a video about it

[median scaffold]

If something is funny - GFB exists

[ancient panther]

Yes, summoner is OP. And I can't wait to see the new sunken sea. Also 1.4.5 is coming in a few months most likely, so that might delay that update if tmod loader decides to port

Also, nerf avalanche, or make the destroyer take less damage from it, because he dies so fast to that weapon on any difficulty

[median scaffold]

I would like to have a suggestion about summoner, but I fell it won't get any stars (or maybe even will fall under SIS rule, but that's just me, ig?)

[drowsy plank]

just post it, worse case scenario it gets flagged

[median scaffold]

Yeah, I'll do it when I feel like it (probably today)

[grim tusk]

#1178515062030348308

[median scaffold]

Isn't someone already working on nerfing this thing out?

[wide river]

While we're on the trend of incredibly minor changes

[median scaffold]

Shrieks is such a funny thing

[median scaffold]

Isn't that the reason why suggestions exists?

[wide river]

I just mean like
We've got "Remove a single word from this item's name", "flip this item's sprite horizontally", and "add two periods" notably in posting atm

[median scaffold]

I have a suggestion, for like, 2 weeks

[royal tapir]

What a nice suggestion

[scenic pine]

Terraria 1.4.5 itself yes, but tmodloader itself might not get fully ported till probably way later

And even then most mods don't usually start porting until theres a stable beta

So sunken sea update will most likely be out before and 1.4.5 porting needs to start

[grim tusk]

^ ports are the main reason we didnt want to work on Sunken Sea update til Tml stopped breaking shit

once things settled, sunken sea!

[serene vapor]

behold my opinion

say what you will about it

[misty lichen]

i think it should have indication of some sort

since the way you dodge it is by being closer to the wall

either that or not accelerate/home as fast as it gets when you’re further

[serene vapor]

That isn’t good design in my opinion

[misty lichen]

i agree

[serene vapor]

Considering you want to stay as far away from the wall of human flesh with 30 tiny mouths and laser eyes

[misty lichen]

it’s not exactly unfair just not well communicated to the player, especially in bad arenas where it’ll jumpscare 90% of players

[serene vapor]

Yeah

[misty lichen]

also with the demon scythe sprite being so tiny and fast im sure some people won’t even see what hit them

[serene vapor]

yep

my exact problem in my ongoing playthrough

boss is too chaotic to notice sometimes

[crude geode]

Wall of Flesh having a good fight is a myth

[sand marlin]

This

[uneven adder]

wof could certainly do with a more complex, hard to dodge version of the scythe attack that encourages getting closer, but is clearly telegraphed

[arctic barn]

hope this suggestion gets accepted, to tell players that the hellfire treads is atleast useful

[proper granite]

i think the demon sickle does do too much damage

its like 70% of the total damage the boss can do to you not even close

its weird to have attacks that dont have any visible difference and one deals 30 damage and the other deals 190

its why hungries doing literally like 250 damage a hit at the end of the fight was cut from calamity

[sand marlin]

It's a bug

It's already known

[arctic barn]

ok

guess ill delete the suggestion then

[sand marlin]

[olive saddle]

Its kinda easy to dodge but i also have an unhealthy amount of hours on this mod so i dont know if its actually easy to dodge or me being decent at the fight

[vagrant spindle]

Draedon's body in the fight looks like that because its an old recon body he doesn't mind losing

which is also why his hologram looks different

[tender crater]

i think i's less about the difficulty of dodging the sickle and more about it having extremely poor telegraphing

it just kinda shows up and your eyes are rarely paying attention to the mouth, you're usually looking at the eyes for both offensive and defensive purposes

[lone ravine]

Doesn’t he have a shield to pretty much make him invincible that he can use?

I mean it only becomes an option to attack Draedon after the fight is over

[bright crag]

Why would Draedon use his best tech and body in the fight when there's a high risk of getting destroyed?

It'd be a waste of resources compared to just using an old, rusty recon body

@lone ravine This is why the recon body was chosen, and your suggestion has to at least acknowledge that
And ideally, provide convincing reasons to change it from that

[ripe owl]

So wait, is the Draedon in the fight the """real""" Draedon?

I recon there was something like "There's a hologram that watches you"

[vagrant spindle]

it is the real draedon, watching through an old rusty body

the hologram that shows up if you destroy his body is one of his newer ones

[lone ravine]

Well, in the lore item it states he has a near limitless supply of materials, correct? And you can fight the Exo Mechs and infinite number of times and each time you defeat them, that’s a huge waste of resources. Plus if you acknowledge the previous text, Draedon has a shield of sorts that can protect him from any sort of damage. At least according to the gameplay.

[vagrant spindle]

you only fight exos once

rematches arent canon, safe for scal

also gameplay doesn't always translate to lore, because why would he disable this supposed shield at that point?

its not mentioned anywhere either

[fervent orbit]

"he has a lot of materials" but its never stated which materials

could be about exo prism or just iron

[buoyant idol]

900 stacks of stone and 43 dirt.

[ripe owl]

Bro simply enabled Journey Mode

[scenic pine]

*His main body

[worldly sparrow]

suggestions can be interesting sometimes

[whole tundra]

Lets not react this with an❗and see what happens

[worldly sparrow]

too late

[bright crag]

It's his consciousness, but the body is an old rusty one

[buoyant idol]

I guess delete the everyone ping.

[bright crag]

Refights aren't canon
Draedon might have a lot of materials, but he still has to build his projects
He can't rebuild the Exos in a few seconds
Not wasting resources is in his mentality and procedure, so his abundant resources wouldn't justify making a pristine body for the fight
And what makes you think Draedon had a shield...?

[worldly sparrow]

most refights aren't canon, that is

some are

but exos are not

[dapper apex]

Probably the fact that you can't damage his body during the fight

Which I would say just is a gameplay mechanic

[golden sonnet]

He's got a gamer chair, of course he can dodge

[dapper apex]

It would be really wacky if you accidentally damaged him during the fight and didn't even notice that

And there was a giant hologram flying all over the place

[hybrid steeple]

so true discord user vintonz

[errant cradle]

gone

[quick wraith]

We lost a real one today

[odd geyser]

what

[dapper apex]

That was peak suggestion

The best one since senator amstrong

[odd geyser]

add story of undertale to terraria calamity mode

[buoyant idol]

Add me

[wide river]

394 - Removed #suggestions-discussion. - Done ✅

[buoyant idol]

No, remove #suggestions-posting instead.

[drowsy plank]

discussion just becomes cmt but for people that do not have the brainrot

[grizzled dome]

there are people on this server who do not have the brainrot?

[buoyant idol]

No.

[wide river]

Staff Mail

[drowsy plank]

it's different stages

[golden sonnet]

Brain rot is a spectrum

[buoyant idol]

I am the spectrum.

[floral yoke]

brain rot, like like… the debuff in calamity..? 🥺

[buoyant idol]

All of the above.

[umbral gazelle]

i believe when you destroy his recon body in exo mechs fight he bring a new recon body thinking "its not the best time to show my hologram"

[coral carbon]

The Absorber doesn't inherit Baroclaw's damage increase
I find it really interesting that The Absorber, being a direct upgrade to the Baroclaw, doesn't inherit the 10% damage increase from it, while also being directly crafted from it. I know that it isn't the point of the Claw Carapace line, but I still would find it nice to be consistent.

Is it a good suggestion?

[grim tusk]

Its op as fuck already

[fervent orbit]

yea we really dont need another incentive to use absorber

[coral carbon]

Yeah

It's good that I asked before posting

[misty lichen]

baroclaw only has that damage as a bandaid to make it usable really

[proper granite]

probably would need to move it forward in progression for it to remain balanced

[serene vapor]

post providence likely

[wide river]

Late, but you get the damage boost from the aura

The aura grants +3 HP/s life regen, +8% damage, and +5% damage reduction for all players inside for 10 seconds
It also covers the damage reduction from Giant Tortoise Shell

[shell grotto]

#suggestions-voting message involuntary bouncy dynamite

[wide river]

@zenith slate Server suggestions would go to @sonic torrent, not here

[zenith slate]

o

[coral carbon]

hungry? try seven corndogs

no ketchup no mustard
just dog

[median scaffold]

Dog?

[grave zinc]

@steady harness - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Astrum Deus should drop the Ancient Manipulator.]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@whole tundra - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Drunk Princess sell Prismatic Lacewings right upon entering hardmode]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@golden sonnet - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rework Calamity QoL Recipes]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@trail fiber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Put a reason for rogue class to do the old one's army and the moon events (frost and pumpking moon)]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[golden sonnet]

Genuinely very happy this got through as generally suggestions negative for the player don't get in

[coral carbon]

the reddit will not be pleased

[misty lichen]

it got votes because you said rework instead of nerf in the title

[median scaffold]

Well, some of them suck at making farming "easier". And genuinely - something like adding more items to Skeleton Merchant or any other NPCs would be better imo, but there's much more room to improve

[drowsy plank]

smh my debuff rework sugg is bombing

sad!

i dont care enough to bother rewriting it at this point

[serene vapor]

who cares what they think

[wide river]

Unfortunate, unfortunate indeed

[fervent orbit]

but do you know whats bombing with popularity?

[wide river]

I imagine it's largely because of the length, because I doubt anyone in their right mind thinks debuffs that completely take away player control are a good idea

[drowsy plank]

unsure how to rewrite it to apply more

maybe like

"Rework Stun Debuffs"

[wide river]

Noob I will genuinely unvote the suggestion if you keep pointing it out

[drowsy plank]

idk

[fervent orbit]

this is the first time im doing it in this server

[wide river]

Take your meds #calamity-mod-talk message

[fervent orbit]

that was extremely vague!!

[misty lichen]

#suggestions-voting message no votes 🔥🔥🔥

[trail fiber]

YES

my first suggestion that is sended to the devs

i know is not 100% sure that is gonna be accepted

but anyways i'm happy

[drowsy plank]

8000 projectiles

[torpid mural]

1 sec im adding on 🙏

[drowsy plank]

his projectiles should despawn once they go outside the arena unless you are also outside the arena

[misty lichen]

this is a post dog rogue moment

[torpid mural]

btw this was with no resource packs and bare minimum graphics while terarria was running at priority on my pc

[misty lichen]

MORE 1 DAMAGE PROJECTILES PLEASE

[torpid mural]

FR

wait

not fr

i read that wrong!

[errant cradle]

Huh

Suggestion was so good it had to post it twice

[drowsy plank]

should i ask nycro about this?

@inland saddle hey do you have any idea why this suggestion doubled, also, should i delete one?

[errant cradle]

^

#suggestions-voting message

[wide river]

I half expected it to start mass producing itself again

[grave zinc]

@wide river - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Slightly adjust the post-Moon Lord Dungeon buff status message]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[wide river]

Ah so that's what that meant

[golden sonnet]

we can still get it to dev server

[wide river]

How stupid that would be
Flag it as implemented then also vote on it after implementation

[wide river]

I guess to answer the latter, yes

[robust spear]

Hello, my game crashed today, after killing the meat wall it simply crashed and the boss's death didn't count

[drowsy plank]

#help-advice-read-pins

[bright crag]

@lone ravine Already planned

[lone ravine]

Oh nice!

[novel belfry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1068979750741233786/1209685607329046558/DraedonObelisk.gif

here it is

in all of its amazing glory

seriously, this fucking rocks

[buoyant idol]

I wonder if the symbols look better with exo colors but otherwise it’s fantastic.

[novel belfry]

i think its fine as is

[floral yoke]

They actually wanted to do it exo colors but the shader they would have needed to use wouldn’t work

[drowsy plank]

this is two suggestions and also not formatted correctly you need a title also do EITHER rogue or yharon projectiles being a problem not both at once @torpid mural

[torpid mural]

oh mb

used to other suggestions

ill format it better gimmie a min

wait

all i need is a title and to seperate the 2 suggestions?

[drowsy plank]

i mean i would say the reasoning is not exactly. great either. but that's not inherently disallowed. but yeah i dont think there's anything disallowing you to ask yharon's projectiles to despawn faster

i mentioned my idea of making them despawn instantly once outside of the arena unless you are also outside of it

[torpid mural]

o yea

ill add that on too then

if u dont mind ofc

[torpid mural]

YAY!

[drowsy plank]

close enough

[proper granite]

actually, what's up with this projectile lag? i'm getting it too and on mods that aren't calamity

feverishly went through all installed mods and still couldnt find the culprit

[golden sonnet]

I remembered you said this today. This post already exists https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/1191541653559840798 but if you would like I can make a new report if that would help

[grim tusk]

Pushed that report to dev

[golden sonnet]

alright, won't make a new report then

while you're here, was the exo plating creating pixel lines pushed?

and is vanilla set bonus overrides not working in multiplayer something you have the info for already, or should I make a report with logs

[grim tusk]

Pretty sure that was

[grim tusk]

Never heard of that

[golden sonnet]

alright, will make a post then, thank you for the responses

[inland saddle]

Uhhhhhh that's really weird, not sure how that could be happening, but you can just delete the second one yes

[whole tundra]

Please dont ping me while i'm asleep :(

[umbral gazelle]

you can block them

[buoyant idol]

Do not disturb for phones:

[olive saddle]

Dnd on mobile does fuckall

[sleek turret]

Just supress pings on the server

[buoyant idol]

No I mean for iPhones and Android.

[olive saddle]

Oh

Holy shit I'm stupid

Yea

[buoyant idol]

Works for me at least.

[sand marlin]

Isn't that just Magic Storage

Or more like I'm sure it is

[umbral gazelle]

alternately delete the app

[cyan thunder]

ngl with the moon lord dungeon message i think it should be changed altogether

the actual message is way too similar to plantera’s and doesnt really exemplify as much

[drowsy plank]

honestly kind of agree there

[coral carbon]

just change the message to "WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?"

[drowsy plank]

[sand marlin]

GFB post ML dungeon

[coral carbon]

Love is in the air? WRONG! The profaned flame blazes fiercely!

[distant gyro]

When there's something strange...

[wide river]

Amazing

[novel belfry]

Something strange? In the Dungeon? Who you gonna call?

POLTERBUSTERS!

[whole tundra]

Incredible, just Incredible

[serene vapor]

can you add this to gfb

[novel belfry]

please

[fervent orbit]

dragon scales when it

[sand marlin]

@torpid mural I don't think you're allowed to send a suggestion before 24 hours pass from your last one

[fervent orbit]

the limit is 2 per day

[sand marlin]

Huh?

Did it change?

[fervent orbit]

no

it was always 2 per day

[sand marlin]

Well there goes like a few people I told not to sometime ago

And nobody told me

[dapper apex]

[fervent orbit]

habble doesnt read sugg guidelines confirmed?????

[north oracle]

[sand marlin]

Spinoffs are not canon

[north oracle]

so rogue instead of being a slow but high damaging class, is a very fast and low damage class
what exactly does this mean

[fervent orbit]

i think they mean it has high hit rate and low dmg projectiles due to projectile spam

[golden sonnet]

I think it's saying that rogue being based around stealth is slow high damage hits, but because of the amount of on hit projectiles with low% scaling it feels like the opposite

[golden sonnet]

this yeah

[torpid mural]

erm acthually it wath 4 hourth away from 24 so i think thaths cloths enougth 🤓 ☝️

[fervent orbit]

nevermind can we delete this guys suggestion

[torpid mural]

basically

shoot fast

do 1 dmg per projectile

but overall does a lot of dmg bc of how fast it shoots

executioners blade for example

[drowsy plank]

i feel like you are mistaking executioner's blade/spam for the entire class's identity

[torpid mural]

srry if i worded that weirdly

[fervent orbit]

you see there is a phenomena named after this its called projectile spam

[torpid mural]

all the weapons shoot very quickly and depending on what stage of the game ur on its sometimes better to spam

and even then

[fervent orbit]

and i explain it really well here

[torpid mural]

some weapons like wrath wing spawn like 30 projectiles per stealth strike

[drowsy plank]

when you build for spam it is better to spam yeah

that is also true

[north oracle]

when rogue uses stealth, the weapons shoot quite slowly
they just produce an awful lot of projectiles

[torpid mural]

also im not talking about this being a full feature

im talking abt it being like

an ldm option

[drowsy plank]

surely this will be addressed in the third rouge rework

[torpid mural]

i was fighing exo mechs then died to the wormy guy bc of rogue lag 😢 (stealth strikes only)

lol

[torpid mural]

ROGUE REWORK?

i like that

[golden sonnet]

to be fair, rogue does have a lot of on hit projectile spawns, it's the reason ichor is still better even with the high damage of stealth. Normal stealth effects, Shadow potion spawns, corrosive spine, electricians glove, feather crown line, nanotech, venerated locket, dragon scales, etc

like, on hit effects are practically part of rogues identity rn

[drowsy plank]

true

[fervent orbit]

empyrean armour

[drowsy plank]

i sure hope they wont be soon!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fervent orbit]

[drowsy plank]

what's that

[misty lichen]

not a good thing!!!!!!!!

[golden sonnet]

Correct imo

[grim tusk]

So just increase Dragon Scales’ transparency again?

[fervent orbit]

yea just literally make it invisible

[golden sonnet]

they are also bringing up lag to be fair

not just visibility

[grim tusk]

Also locket needs a visual rework or a complete one

Cuz atm its in fact horrid

Although last time I tried, I gave every single projectile a shader instead of the one I wanted

[stark locust]

how is this
**Make it so Deerclops spawns above the player or make it so he is unable to spawn below the player **
I think that this would be a good idea because this would prevent deerclops from spawning under the player and getting cheep hits as well as just removing the annoying wait time for him to surface where in most cases on Rev+ he will do his far ranged attacks/harder attacks even if the player isnt trying to run away from him

[crude geode]

Spawning above the player sounds problematic

[stark locust]

yeah thats why i said or unable to spawn below, even if he spawns above he cant really telefrag unless your moving up since his legs dont have a hit box

[prisma isle]

is there a faster way to fight the laviathan?

[stark locust]

no and this is not the right channel

[prisma isle]

then i shall change it, should there be a way to spawn the leviathan in faster?

[median scaffold]

I think that's a fine enough suggestion, but getting jumped by Deerclops is not funny

[olive saddle]

Nah. There are third party mods for this though. ???s spawnrate already gets multipled in hardmode by 4x and post plantera by 4x again for a total of 16x

[prisma isle]

yet sitting next to a water candle and drinking a zerg i normaly wait 5 min each try of fighting them under water

just want to smash my head into a brick wall faster ya know

[grim tusk]

This guy doesnt know —> @left crag

[left crag]

whar

[grim tusk]

Demonshade is being tiershifted to not be from shadowspecs and to be from Ashes of Annihilation instead

[left crag]

interesting, will there be a Shadowspec armor set that will replace it?

[grim tusk]

Not planned

[left crag]

link jumpscare

[wide river]

Adobe once again

[novel belfry]

[worn coyote]

[eternal escarp]

making deerclops spawn above you would just lead to confusion and probably people complaining that it might be unfair or cause more cheaphits depending on how its done
i think itd be better to just ask for it to always spawn out of screen on the ground, like its natural spawn is during a winterstorm

[fervent orbit]

why do u need more fishing accessories

[boreal olive]

iono

it feels empty

i can get everything pre-mech

there should at least be new stuff

[warped vector]

Who fishing post moon lord

Also that's very specific (miasma)

And probably overpowered

Miasma is good for worms tho

[north oracle]

@boreal olive for both of these suggestions please focus more on the reasoning (or why these changes are needed) and less on what specifically should be done. In particular, you can't suggest specific reworks to items or specific new items to be added.

[boreal olive]

me

[boreal olive]

ok

[boreal olive]

??? it doesn't pierce

[fervent orbit]

1 minute destroyer kill time:

[warped vector]

[warped vector]

For what purpose may I ask

[north oracle]

(Also, miasma is quite strong on most bosses, and especially shreds destroyer)

[warped vector]

Curious

[boreal olive]

what

[warped vector]

Do you have a killtime

list

[north oracle]

1s

[fervent orbit]

Miasma

Twins - 2:14
Destroyer - 1:11
Skeletron Prime - 2:30
Cryogen - 2:07
Brimstone Elemental - 2:08

[warped vector]

Pretty good

[north oracle]

Thanks noob

[boreal olive]

that's crazy

[north oracle]

awkward on mobile

[boreal olive]

i never knew that

i'm a calamity mod newgen

[warped vector]

maybe discuss your suggestion here before posting them

[boreal olive]

ijat

okay

[warped vector]

And also read the rules

[boreal olive]

ijat

okay

[north oracle]

(BTW, issues with balance should go to #1178515062030348308 anyway)

[boreal olive]

cool

[median scaffold]

#suggestions-posting message
I guess this suggestion is already dead, but isn't the deal with those fishing items (not from Supreme Angler box) is that they give you easier time getting things from one pool (potion fishes) or another (crates, iirc)?

Also, Devourer of Cods already exists and it's pretty good

[lucid marsh]

Fishing is unnecessary at that point in the game

You don't need better stuff

[serene vapor]

blood fins and reaper teeth

[uneven adder]

does that also mean gemtech armor will get a buff? currently it's pretty blatantly inferior to demonshade armor in every way

and also debatably inferior to auric tesla

[olive saddle]

Dude i love gem tech so much

[grave zinc]

@ripe owl - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add (at least a shitty) sprite version of the Golem's Inferno]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[royal tapir]

Not a sprite but it uses particles now

[ripe owl]

No more unfair hits!

(is it that projectile again or am I seeing things?)

[royal tapir]

Which one

[ripe owl]

The overused

Used in most EoL drops, for example

The Crystal thingy or whatever it is

[royal tapir]

It's the same texture yeah

Not like I care about that

[ripe owl]

Not like I care either

But I find it funny

[uneven adder]

the fact it isn't orange is currently mentally damaging me

[misty lichen]

well the dust explosions are yellow

[royal tapir]

It specifically was changed to be yellow so that it did not look identical to Inferno Fork's projectiles

[misty lichen]

💀

[ripe owl]

Well yeah cause you might use it during the fight

Which might cause confusion

[hybrid cedar]

what if i turn my monitor off, then it's confusing regardless of which colour is picked

[uneven adder]

just uninstall calamity

instant solution

[median scaffold]

He says about post-providence fishing acc, where you can use the alternative to bloodfins, which is also easier to get, and reaper teeth... ehh, kinda fine, but people tend to just go and farm reaver sharks. And reaper teeth from crates are post-OD, which people also tend to just skip till post-DoG or smth

[restive wharf]

why isn't there a brimstone lava fountain that changes nearby lava to brimstone lava?

[buoyant idol]

Either it was never brought up or it's a sprite issue.

[drowsy plank]

functionality issue i believe

[umbral gazelle]

if any suggestion require a sprite, suggest it, and make the spriter suffer

[floral yoke]

Wait until you see an indomitable spriter 💪

[golden sonnet]

An alternative that is worse

[median scaffold]

Sorry for the ping, miss click

[median scaffold]

I won't argue that Bloodfins are better than what comes after supreme potion, but honeyfin are better than most pre-hm healing potions. Do people use them?

[sleek turret]

Are you willing to fish on honey?

[golden sonnet]

No because they are worse than restoration which are easier, people still do use hadal stew tho

They are not comparable

As bloodfins are much more common

I still disagree more fishing stuff is needed, I just also disagree that no one is fishing then

[sleek turret]

Yeah there's also Hadal Stew which is the whole bundle (60 minute T2 well fed buff and mana/hp recovery)

[median scaffold]

No

[sleek turret]

See

[median scaffold]

I actually don't know exactly how rare Bloodfins are

[sleek turret]

You get Bloodfins from lava fishing right?

[median scaffold]

I think so

[sleek turret]

Issue with honey fishing is that it takes longer than lava fishing I believe

Way longer

[median scaffold]

I think that's mostly because there's literally 1 or 2 drops in honey, including the honeyfin

And ye, 10% isn't that rare, even if that's only for 1 bloodfin

[sleek turret]

You also can sped up the lava fishing process

Using the Hotline Fishing Rod or upgrades that let you fish on lava + that one acc that enables you to fish with any rod on lava

[sleek turret]

It's only 2 drops if you have the angler quest for Bumblebee Tuna

Otherwise it's always Honeyfin

[drowsy plank]

tbf they can spawn anywhere

[misty lichen]

i really dislike how the perfs/hm and eow/boc enrages are incorporated

evil1 bosses are meant to be fought underground but you CAN fight them on the surface for the “harder mode but with more space”, but then the evil2 bosses are meant to be fought on the surface but CAN be fought underground for the “easy mode with less space”

[torpid mural]

their spawns underground are kinda jank tho, and in the underground you do NOT have enough room 😭

unless u dig it out but

im too lazy for allat

[drowsy plank]

ive fought perf in the underground crimson just fine

[wide river]

If I'm not wrong this suggestion has passed before ain't it

[drowsy plank]

dont remember

[misty lichen]

evil2 bosses enraging on the surface is just confusing with the red name making you think you’re doing something wrong

[wide river]

#suggestions-discussion message
Different wording same idea

[torpid mural]

oh

[sleek turret]

imo From a first player perspective the player would encounter the spawners on evil surface rather than on underground evil biome

[torpid mural]

should i delete or keep mine then

idk

[wide river]

It doesn't really matter either way

[sleek turret]

It's until then that you learn about the enrage that the bosses have when you craft the boss item consumable

[torpid mural]

yea in my first calamity playthrough i got hardstuck on perfs

bc i kept fighting them on surface

[misty lichen]

they’re still easier on the surface

[torpid mural]

i agree

[misty lichen]

the surface enrage does very little

[glass arch]

their surface enrage isnt even an enrage yeah

[misty lichen]

the underground ai is so pointless

[glass arch]

its not counted as one for the healthbar isnt it or is that next update

[floral yoke]

Only time I did underground perfs was infernum, before then I forgot surface enrage was a thing

Definitely not enough to warrant going out of your way to go underground

[wide river]

Love me an "enrage" that's barely even noticeable

[sleek turret]

Atleast for surface death-Hive Mind it felt like the boss was pretty good that way

[novel belfry]

im annoyed that enrages are just applied in situations that i dont think make too much sense

why is the eow/boc now stronger outside of the corruption/crimson? shouldn't they just turn back and try to leave?

[sand marlin]

Because despawning them is quite annoying for the littlest step you take outside and becomes cheesy as well

Works best to just make it leave more of an impact that it is indeed enraged and make the player more aware outside of an incredibly vague health bar indication

Well, not as vague but people can't usually pay attention to the name on the health bar

[misty lichen]

i think enrages are a general rev change

[stark locust]

Sorry I completely forgot I made the suggestion, something came up, but yeah I will go change that

Ok made some changes

Did it on mobile so check if everything makes senses I gtg

[restive wharf]

why are there no biome campfires

[drowsy plank]

i mean sunken has ultrabright

doesnt crags have gloom or am i just crazy

i mean there are definitely torch types at least

as for campfires that depends on spriters

[restive wharf]

yeah there are no campfires

i checked

[drowsy plank]

art server moment

[misty lichen]

you can paint vanilla campfires as a temporary solution

[stark locust]

Or use cal Val

[restive wharf]

cal val doesn't have campfires

i'm using it for consistency and the torch luck mechanic

[drowsy plank]

i dont

think campfires affect torch luck?

[floral yoke]

Campfires seems like a simple thing to accomplish

[drowsy plank]

yeah they dont

feel free to make one and submit it in calart then

[restive wharf]

why does fertilizer not work on calamity mod trees?

[bright crag]

Probably hasn't been implemented

[golden sonnet]

I think it has to do with modded tress being jank AF

unless they've gotten better

[bright crag]

Mechanics like that need to be actually integrated to Calamity through code, and won't work otherwise

There's also that, yeah

[restive wharf]

i want to submit a suggestion about that but i already have today

[grim tusk]

wydm?

[drowsy plank]

you can do 2 per day

[grim tusk]

^

[restive wharf]

oh

[grim tusk]

also your other sugg is not on #suggestions-posting so you have 2/2 left

[swift furnace]

make a kelvin catalyst upgrade

[sleek turret]

Celsius Katalyst

[fervent orbit]

requires 273.15 delicious meat to make

i love how this is just

wrong

[frail fox]

Sentinels downgraded to not bosses damn

[fervent orbit]

yea

polter too

[golden sonnet]

@faint pivot The only needed post ML bosses are devourer of Gods, Yharon, SCal, and Exo mechs

[dense ferry]

Guardians > Provi > DoG > Yharon > SCal and Exos

Considering what is expected for a player

[golden sonnet]

literally just those 4

[fervent orbit]

guards and provi can be skipped with shimmer if ur willing to do yharon early

[dense ferry]

Skipping to DoG is unrealistic to consider imo

[golden sonnet]

fair, it's still way less then their claim

[fervent orbit]

when stuff like vanilla pillar armours exist

[dense ferry]

That post still de-considers Void, Signus, Weaver and Polter

[fervent orbit]

_ _

yea

[dense ferry]

And, in the future, Ravager will be there too

Tl;dr half of the Post ML Bosses are realistically skippable for the average player

And we aren't adding more Bosses

@faint pivot

[north oracle]

(except yharim who will in fact be required for progression)

[golden sonnet]

How do you know

[random talon]

bc... he's the final boss?

[median scaffold]

He has some unforbiden knowledge we can't disscuse

[north oracle]

oh sorry endgame will stay post SCal and exos, yharim's entirely optional

[random talon]

unrelated but the YTer Nova is about to beat SCal for the 100th day while waiting for Yharim to release

[median scaffold]

[wide river]

Yharim is now a pre-Hardmode miniboss. Done ✅

[median scaffold]

Would be actually funny if Yharim will be somwhere before SCal

GFB moment, ig

[grim tusk]

Also looking at the sugg:
A- Folly has stuff planned
B- OD drops can obliterate DoG and are decently Yharon viable
C- You only need DoG, Yharon, Draedon and SCal lol

[median scaffold]

[grim tusk]

You’d need Providence and Guardians if it wasnt for fishing

[median scaffold]

Low% exists

[grim tusk]

You can fish auric ore up from crates

[median scaffold]

Can you kill Ravager from Low%, please?

[grim tusk]

Probably will when it gets moved

Then Cryo becomes mandatory

[median scaffold]

Can you kill Ravager and bring Low% to 5-6 bosses instead of 6-7? Pretty please

There was some suggestions making this possible, but iirc those didn't get passed, sadly

[uneven adder]

so WoF -> lunatic -> ml -> dog -> yharon -> scal hmmm

i mean yeah removing ravager would bring it down to 6, though I would really only support it if it was viable in a speedrun context considering how much work it would take + the fact I'm biased af
low% and speedrunning are both extremely small niches though so I don't think it's getting changed at all

though I would seriously like there to be a cosmilite pickaxe of sorts so provi and guardians could be skipped in speedruns

[grim tusk]

Fishing for titanium crates post-Yharon

And then you get Uelibloom with shimmer

[golden sonnet]

you missed calclone and exos

[median scaffold]

Exos don't need more bosses iirc, so it's fine

[warm vale]

There's a boss called Calzone?

Nowait, I misread...

[grizzled dome]

I sense a getfixedboi change incoming

[coral carbon]

Can you kill|| Ravager from ||Low%||, please? ||

[worldly sparrow]

Can you ||kill|| Ravage||r from Low%||, please?

[golden sonnet]

They are why you need DoG

[glass arch]

no you need dog anyways to make altar

dog is unavoidable in every route, ive checked

[wide river]

So is Yharon to get Auric stuff

[glass arch]

yeah

[umbral gazelle]

you dont need to kill any of these boss if you have cheatsheet

[glass arch]

you dont need to play the game if you have cheat sheet

[golden sonnet]

Forgot it was at cringe anvil

[glass arch]

if you're gonna bring cheat sheet into an argument at least do it at a point where it makes sense

[misty lichen]

it was a joke man

[sleek turret]

Your honor, the client used the emoji on the end of their sentence, indicating a sarcastic tone.

[novel belfry]

i use to indicate a sarcastic tone

[sleek turret]

I use /s since it feels the most direct one

[warped vector]

[sleek turret]

See there's many sarcasm indicators because of Poe's Law or whatever the wikipedia page says

[north oracle]

||||

[bright crag]

Just noticed that Demonshade suggestion

How did no one comment against it?

Actually, no need to

[grave zinc]

@left crag - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Demonshade Armor should provide Auric Rejection Immunity]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[north oracle]

Shade did, it didn't get flagged tho for some reason

[bright crag]

Basically, Demonshade armor won't be made with Shadowspec Bars in the future
It will be made with Ashes of Annihilation

Even if you don't consider that, Shadowspec and its tier is dedicated (non-canon) content
So the rules of canon don't apply to it at all

[drowsy plank]

tbf it does still make a modicum of sense for late game armors to have immunities to it tho

[grizzled dome]

That one seems great, except for how "s" can stand for "serious" or "sarcastic" and that's sort of a problem.

[misty lichen]

or alternatively let auric keep that one cool thing that it has instead of shoving the immunity onto every other armor past it

[drowsy plank]

i dont really consider that a "cool" part of auric......

[misty lichen]

it’s something

[drowsy plank]

i guess

the armor is gonna get reworked eventually anyway so im not really too concerned with that

tho i think tracers give you immunity now anyway or something so i suppose it isn't a big deal

or at least

some accessory does

i know something passed that gave you an alternative at least

[fervent orbit]

seraph tracers

[uneven adder]

oh yeah I keep forgetting there's no other sources of ashes of cal

if it's exos it's currently wof -> lunatic -> ml -> ravager -> dog -> yharon -> exos iirc

[coral carbon]

Make the Celestial Onion only drop on non-Master Mode
The Celestial Onion gives a bonus accessory slot, that for balance reasons can't be obtained on Master Mode. It also means that it is just a waste of space on Master Mode - you can't even sell it to NPCs, as it has no value. Thus, it would be the best go make it drop only on Normal and Expert (and, by extension, non-Master Revengeance and Death as well).

...oh, I think that it would be a duplicated sugg. But, is it good anyway?

[olive saddle]

People want some kind of use for it but i say bullshit you chose this path and also if it got a """use""" please let it just be sell value above all else

Good suggestion. Doesn't dabble into the argument of whether or not it should do something, presents a simple solution to a convoluted problem

[misty lichen]

i just don’t see why it shouldn’t have a sell price

i would buy that thing at a garage sale

[olive saddle]

We can throw lore out the window here and say "its for gameplay fuck u"

[floral yoke]

Make it activate prepare to cry in master mode

[olive saddle]

Please chew chips sideways

[floral yoke]

😇

[umbral gazelle]

thats so brutal what the fuc

[quiet kernel]

I could feel pure hatred and anger from reading that holy

[hollow ridge]

@boreal jetty what are you actually suggesting?

As in make all minions have no projectiles

[boreal jetty]

Sorry for my english

But

I wanted say

[hollow ridge]

I do agree with the mess on screen sometimes but it isn't really possible to change all summon weapons like that

[sand marlin]

Fargo's Mutant Mod has a configuration for friendly projectile visibility which includes summons

[boreal jetty]

Well

Another mods

[hollow ridge]

It fixes your problem

[boreal jetty]

Thx

In future then i play infernum as summoner i will instal fargo (for minions) and maybe unofficial whips

[floral yoke]

Calamity unofficial whips?

Because that’s a part of Catalyst now

And vastly improved in Catalyst as well

[sleek turret]

There's a separate mod

[grim tusk]

@boreal jetty either Fargos Mutant or Summoner’s association

[faint pivot]

no... no yharim 😦

[fervent orbit]

yharim will be added obviously

just dont expect it anytime recently

[restive wharf]

Bruh, my suggestion never got posted even though it's been more than 24 hours

[golden sonnet]

wdym

I don't see any in #suggestions-posting by you

are you saying they got lost in the transfer to #suggestions-voting ?

[restive wharf]

Yeah voting

It never got transferred

[golden sonnet]

what one was it? you sure it didn't have a reaction?

[restive wharf]

It didn't have any reactions on it

[median scaffold]

#suggestions-posting message
There was a suggestion regarding some debuffs like stone, etc., but it didn't get added iirc?

[misty lichen]

i love being convinced why low fishing power is a bad thing, actually

[proper granite]

and to prevent this you must drink a flipper potion and ale and sit on an underwater toilet with the inner tube on

[misty lichen]

i don’t think most baits are as useless as you think, it’s more of a nightcrawlers being really broken deal i think

[median scaffold]

That's just "random fishing bullshit go" at this point

[proper granite]

+15 fishing power if you do that lmfao

[misty lichen]

most of them are above 15% power and it’s just like the really common critters like grasshoppers and scorpions that are under that, anything 15% or above is good enough

[proper granite]

later on its definitely less of a big deal since youve got access to other sources of fishing power

[median scaffold]

Also moons and rain

[proper granite]

but early on its very important

[median scaffold]

Minmaxing minions? Nah, minmaxing fishing

[misty lichen]

night crawlers kinda an instagrade ngl ngl

[median scaffold]

Night crawlers are existing and already breaking the entire fishing balance, I guess

[proper granite]

now me, i just get one master bait and go infinite from there

[misty lichen]

i could honestly see just nerfing their recipe to use more stars or something, as far as baits that aren’t hyper rare are it’s only lightning bugs (hardmode item) and magma snails being at 35%

and they’re stupidly easy to get if you have the stars to spare

[proper granite]

im not sure if nerfing night crawlers are the solution, they're the only really consistent source of bait

the thing that annoys me is that like for example maggots require fighting zombies in a graveyard biome created by the player and still give less fishing power then a worm

same with dragonflies, whom i never see

[misty lichen]

nah fireflies are where it’s at

[proper granite]

and apprentice bait is the biggest joke of them all

[proper granite]

not fireflies, dragonflies

the ones that only spawn above water and spawn in groups of 2-3

[misty lichen]

im talking about fireflies

they spawn in such high amounts and give 20%

[proper granite]

yeah those are fine

its like butterflies, they arent consistent to find

so it makes sense its good

[misty lichen]

and at the end of the day just worms would still be the best bet if you can’t get nightcrawlers

[median scaffold]

Fireflies are pretty good as an early alternative to bites, imo

[proper granite]

and if you find the shimmer early its literally joever because herb bags turn into can of worms

[drowsy plank]

if your issue is maggots/dragonflies you should mention those as being rare but also shit

like that is a good time to be specific

mention rare critters having awful fishing power in particular

[proper granite]

its not necessarily that there's a percieved rift in rarity/value because there are good rare critters like fireflies and butterflies but its more that all the other ones fail to reach the baseline of hitting any rock in any cave and having it spawn a worm

so going into the sunken sea and getting sea minnows and baby ghost bells does give you bait that has 20% fishing power but going anywhere else would get you worms which not only give more fishing power, but can be upgraded into nightcrawlers later on

maggots arent necessarily rare but it doesnt make any sense that bait which should be at least as good as a worm is nerfed to 22% for some reason

and fishing power is really important doubly so early game because fishing power doesnt scale linearly

[drowsy plank]

like i said

you should say that in the suggestion then

[proper granite]

hows that

[drowsy plank]

yeah that works

[drowsy plank]

wh

i dont

stealth is literally just free damage even if you're using spam i dont understand what the point of this is

right?

am i forgetting how stealth works?

[golden sonnet]

you aren't

and like, if you spam stealth won't ever happen anyway

so like, why would you need to disable it?

for the single stealth strike at the start of the fight that is free damage?

[ashen warren]

Also, isn't that what makes rogue unique as a class?

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[wide river]

I can see an argument for this
Not a good one
But an argument nonetheless

[drowsy plank]

i

cant

[golden sonnet]

I can't either

[coral carbon]

i cant

[drowsy plank]

im gonna flag it until i get more of an explanation

this is just config bloat

@marsh scaffold can you please explain why this is needed, exactly?

[marsh scaffold]

I just want to use the blunder booster without needing to stop attacking to charge stealth

[drowsy plank]

wh

[marsh scaffold]

it's a super cool accessory, just wish it was easier to work around

[drowsy plank]

you just wouldnt be able to use it if you-
oh you mean make it so stealth isn't consumed and doesnt give you any bonuses when you use the weapon

[marsh scaffold]

Yeah

[drowsy plank]

i

guess that is technically allowed but i dont think they're gonna do it

[wide river]

Stealth regens fairly fast, you'd only need to wait a second or two at most
By the time you have Blunder Booster (or even Plagued Fuel Pack, really) you can get that 25% of Stealth back in no time at all

There's also, of course, ye olde Stealth Rework™️ in the plans so I'd imagine this'd get 🔒'd in a hurry

[marsh scaffold]

i guess

[boreal jetty]

Association of summoner (yes have fargo mutant but it need download mod) and need ig without other mods

[lucid marsh]

Honestly stealth seems like a dumb mechanic

For terraria

Plus it also kinda isn't stealth at all I think?

[glass arch]

its gonna be renamed

this will happen with stealth 3.0

[lucid marsh]

I see

Maybe I'll try it then

I have also noticed that rogue is basically just melee minus swords

Tbh I think it shouldn't have existed in the first place

[glass arch]

really isnt

[grim tusk]

Melee is just mage with no mana

[glass arch]

rogue is very much its own thing, no matter how ununique it was when first implemented

[crude geode]

Summoner is just mage with longer lasting minions

Ranged is just mage with ammunition

[glass arch]

*more types of ammunition

[misty lichen]

what

[grim tusk]

@marsh scaffold
Please specify that this is for accessories such as Plagued Fueled Pack, Sand Veil, Spectral Veil and Blunder booster cuz otherwise this suggestion looks extremely pointless, you can already not use stealth strikes by just keeping spamming your weapon and use whatever accessory you want. So maybe be a bit more specific so it gets better chances to pass

[bright crag]

How is it dumb?

[marsh scaffold]

Alright

[bright crag]

Pretty much every class borrows magic from Mage

[crude geode]

[drowsy plank]

HIS ASS IS NOT COOKING!!! 🧊 🧊 🧊🧊 0️⃣ 0️⃣ 0️⃣

[grim tusk]

Stealth 1.0 used to be more stealthy with accessories and the stealth points giving aggro reduction

Stealth 2.0 stripped a lot of those aspects away to make stealth more combat viable but its not stealthy anymore (although stealth doesnt work on Terraria boss fights at all)

Stealth 2.5 was just making it not actual torture to use early game

Stealth 3.0 is going to rename it and more more so towards dynamic combat which makes more sense. The most likely name currently being “Focus”

[crude geode]

I love Hollow Knight

[marsh scaffold]

Can't wait for 3.0

[grim tusk]

Unfortunately whips are first lol

[crude geode]

[misty lichen]

honestly i just don’t like how stealth regens automatically

for charge attacks you should feel like you’re doing something to activate it

with stealth you just constantly get it whenever you’re just trying to mine or something

[frail fox]

People will really just say anything lmao

Rogue is all boomerangs and slick cane

[lucid marsh]

Well, yeah. Boomerangs are melee according to terraria

[distant gyro]

i think boomerangs are only melee according to terraria because traditionally their design is based on the fact that you can only throw one, there is a sizeable penalty for missing, and the closer you are the faster you throw and hence higher dps

a typical rogue boomerang will feature none of those and some that feature one will not necessary feature all

[misty lichen]

or you can be fishbone boomerang (⚠️)

[distant gyro]

fishbone boomerang is a myth

[frail fox]

And the point is that only rogue boomerangs and some daggers (like mycoroot and jaws of oblivion) and slick cane could reasonably be called melee weapons, and they aren’t the majority of the class. If anything it’s closer to ranger (that throwing became).

But ultimately it doesn’t matter and classes are made up

Magic guns, whips, beam swords, magic swords, there’s plenty of stuff you can say

[distant gyro]

some spiky balls last enough time to might as well consider themselves summoner so rogue has it all

[frail fox]

System’s Bane is my favorite sentry

[grave zinc]

@fervent orbit - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rotate the Eye of Desolation sprite so that it points to the left.]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[distant gyro]

yeah

[fervent orbit]

what the FUCK

[quiet kernel]

Visual consistency

[fervent orbit]

you were supposed to let it surpass icicle arrow

[distant gyro]

can't beat the og

[north oracle]

Skill issue iir

[restive wharf]

My suggestion still hasn't been posted...

Oh well

[royal tapir]

Noooooooooooo

[ashen warren]

Someone post sideshadow

[sand marlin]

[worldly sparrow]

didnt even outvote auric golf...

[faint pivot]

fr

[umbral gazelle]

ranger is just summoner except it doesnt summon minion and doesnt consume mana and doesnt consume minion slot and doesnt do summon damage

[sleek turret]

Ranger is Black Hawk Jet but instead of it attacking by itself YOU use it to attack enemies

/s

[drowsy plank]

smh ranger just copying calamity summoner 🙄

[sand marlin]

** ** ranger

[umbral gazelle]

‎ i ‎range ‎ agree

[sleek turret]

See class weapon consistency is whatever the devs feel like instead of it following whatever assumption or smth We Don't Care as long as the weapon is fun to use

[sleek turret]

I agree with this sugg

Even if certain themes suggest what debuff weakness/resistance an enemy has it feels a good game design thing to tell the player what weakness/resistance an enemy has directly

[sand marlin]

I believe this suggestion idea is already in voting

#suggestions-voting message

@weary plaza

[sleek turret]

Afaik it's also planned that the bestiary would show the enemy's weakness/resistance thing but I don't particulary like this change

[sand marlin]

Byeah this #suggestions-discussion message

So it was already agreed on by the devs to implement this

Or like, thumbsup I guess

[weary plaza]

oh it is?

alright mb then

[sand marlin]

I mean you couldn't have known so it's fine

[weary plaza]

ig that was from like 2 months ago so i would have needed to scroll up a lot to see that

ill delete it in that case

[flint notch]

I wonder where this sugg spawned from?

[fervent orbit]

[drowsy plank]

...

just use dash keybind

[golden sonnet]

^ the keybind exists for this reason

[drowsy plank]

@torpid mural i literally cant think of any reason to do this when dash keybind already exists

[torpid mural]

what i mean is

lower the ms

where

you have to double tap faster for it to actuate

as in, some sections of some bosses (ex scal bullet hell) u gotta move kinda slowish, so u tap ur movement keys

then u accidentally dash even though you werent tapping that fast

[glass arch]

yeah so you use dash keybind

[torpid mural]

WAIT

omg

i just

that exists?

[glass arch]

or alternatively dont use a dash at all

[torpid mural]

i just processed what yall said

[glass arch]

yes

[torpid mural]

makes things like dog impossible

[fervent orbit]

me when people dont check the controls

[glass arch]

hi hello someone who plays without dashes here

no it does not

cal has a default dash anyways

[grim tusk]

Also: Old Lord’s Oathsword and Phosphorescent Gauntlet

[torpid mural]

i meant infernum dog mb

[sleek turret]

Make Guide NPC have a ❗ above him whenever you create a new world explaining stuff like base dash, fall speed changes, etc

[novel belfry]

thats

a good idea

[sleek turret]

It is in my opinion and has been tried on Thorium for explaining wtf is the inspiration mechanic whenever you get a Bard weapon for the first time

[golden sonnet]

base dash and fall speed are self explanatory tbh

and calamity already has an explaination on stealth, like thorium does for inspiration

[novel belfry]

its a bit finicky tho to see

[golden sonnet]

oh, maybe calamity could add a guide charachter, to explain stuff to you

it could be called Fanny

[north oracle]

[golden sonnet]

[drowsy plank]

🥹

[bright crag]

GREAT IDEA

[distant gyro]

id rather have clippy

[grim tusk]

[ripe owl]

[umbral gazelle]

[ripe owl]

@ebon skiff no reason, no nothing, plus SIS

[hollow idol]

a reminder that toilet asset submissions for furniture sets without them are allowed

Abyss, Acidwood, Ancient, Ashen, Botanic, Cosmilite, Monolith, Otherworldly, Plague, Profaned, Sacrilegious, Silva, Statigel, Stratus, Void
Eutrophic probably getting resprited for SSO

[novel belfry]

you cant stop me from submitting an otherwise good submission for toilets and including a skibidi version of that toilet in it

[crude geode]

Yharim fight but it’s just his head on a toilet

[ripe owl]

S-kill-b-it-alread-i

[buoyant idol]

I think that was on the list of don’ts but it got wiped.

[gleaming vortex]

about my automatic weapon charger suggestion, one way to balance it could be to only make it charge weapons up to a maximum of 50-80 percent so that you dont fully benefit from the dmg bonus at high charge

[buoyant idol]

80% is the cutoff for damage loss. I think it’d be best to not have it or cap it at around 30%.

[drowsy plank]

im pretty sure the devs have said multiple times they aren't going to do this

[buoyant idol]

Considering that’s the point of the mechanic, I agree on not adding it.

[gleaming vortex]

i dindt know

[drowsy plank]

yeah i mean if you search for similar suggestions im p sure this one has been explicitly rejected

[gleaming vortex]

i just looked at the suggestion doc

[grim tusk]

If we do it will be monkey pawed as fuck

And yes this sugg is on frequently suggested

Oh, used to be there

No longer there

@dense ferry can you move Sugg doc to the top and add autocharger/battery pack/power bank back to Frequently suggested

[dense ferry]

That's for Rover

But I can move the pins

[grim tusk]

@hollow shell since Reb cant

[ashen warren]

I think I posted this #calamity-addon-talk message in the wrong place. Should I post it as a suggestion? Eg "Add True Melee support to Recipe Browser"?

[grim tusk]

Yes although maybe change the second paragraph to be more serious

[ashen warren]

Done, tried to make it as concise as possible 😉

[grim tusk]

👍

[drowsy plank]

honestly i was almost thinking this should just go in #1052323733961977947 bc it's a consistency/compatibility thing

[ashen warren]

Certainly was scratching my head trying to find the correct channel 😆 please move it as you see fit @drowsy plank, and thanks!

[drowsy plank]

nah i was just thinking about it in relation to what Shade wants but if shade wants it in here then this is where it should go

[gleaming vortex]

maybe not tomorrow, maybe not next month or even year but at some point, i swear, i will come up with a good Suggestion

[grim tusk]

This is adding something that doesnt exist yet, so it goes here

Rogue gets split cuz its internally a throwing subclass (for now) and Recipe Browser recognizes that

True melee is on the same vein

Although this sugg might get a 🔒 given true melee’s plans

Although the separation might still be good so idk

[hollow shell]

I shall do that once I'm back home yeah

[bright crag]

That's what I thought too

It depends on how far off those plans are

[golden sonnet]

I don't agree with this, nothing would imply that it makes you lose adrenaline as you aren't taking damage

Same way dodges don't need to specify they don't lose adrenaline, because if you dodge the attack you aren't taking damage

[gritty plaza]

But the tooltip just says "reduces damage by 10%"

[golden sonnet]

No, it creates a barrier

And the barrier is what takes damage not you

The Dr is unrelated to it not losing adrenaline

[fervent orbit]

the wiki for rover drive doesnt even mention adrenaline

barriers are a new mechanic in calamity that most people dont even know they even have this ability