#suggestions-discussion

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small timber
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OD can be just the same

misty lichen
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instead of being unnoticeable as it is

lucid marsh
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yeah that said I agree

small timber
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(let alone scal which is like 20+ steps)

misty lichen
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did that sugg not pass for voting?

royal tapir
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What does pattern have to do with rest phase

small timber
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nothing

royal tapir
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So why did you bring it up

lucid marsh
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if you're going to have a rest phase then it should actually be a fucking rest and not an invisible damage increase

small timber
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which is why the suggestion wanted to make it so it is tied to pattern

royal tapir
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Would take work to rebalance the boss then, especially considering that his attack pattern is not the same length in each phase

small timber
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exactly, which makes it so it is near impossible for new player to ever notice the rest phase is attack number based

dense locust
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tbh just give him a big stamina bar underneath him at all times

royal tapir
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Overall I don't think it should be tied to pattern, just make it more obvious

small timber
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if it is purely based on pattern it is much more easily noticeable

misty lichen
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old duke should get stunned when you hit it 80 times then fall to the ground flopping around with dizzy stars

royal tapir
dense locust
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real

glass arch
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so true

small timber
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if you ram OD dash 15 times in a row OD get stunned

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I am sure MNG user will love this change

royal tapir
lucid marsh
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but does it matter at all?

misty lichen
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yes and no i think? most people just won’t care and get by just fine but i think it’s a unique mechanic for a terraria boss

lucid marsh
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the phase might as well just be "this boss sometimes pauses attacking and takes more damage randomly"

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the player's behavior is never changed regardless of wether they know about this mechanic

small timber
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sunken sea biome lab still generating at the edge of sunken sea right?

small timber
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because you will prepare to be near OD when it is about to rest if you know it is coming, especially melee (even ranger for point blank)

golden sonnet
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you save rage and adren for those phases and stick close yeah

small timber
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and of course adrenaline rage etc

misty lichen
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rippers are the important part yeah

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if those didn’t exist then you would be right, the difference is minor

small timber
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it is not even fully minmaxed because I forgot some buff and warbanner

glass arch
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i know of the rest phases i just cant tell when they actually happen

small timber
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(gauntlet stacking but that is exactly the point of that build)

royal tapir
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Argument immediately rendered dead

lucid marsh
olive saddle
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my main thing about old duke is i feel like its hard to tell when hes exhausted

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yea theres like 3 different queues but they're kind of hard to notice or hear during the heat of post ml boss battles

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i didnt even know he could exhaust until looking at the wiki

small timber
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melee get true melee
ranger get point blank
mage IDK, weapon dependent
summoner can use (redacted) weapons that have some range limitation
rogue probably can hit attacks more easily dependent on weapon

and of course rippers

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knowing when OD rest is a big deal, unless you have a limitation like nohit timer where you are already killing OD too fast

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every other case paying attention to OD rest phase just kill it way faster

misty lichen
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rogue gets to stand still and spam stealths

glass arch
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it gets

small timber
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oh right yeah that for rogue

royal tapir
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This is why we stan ranger

dense locust
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what even is max damage boost for point blannk

olive saddle
dense locust
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I see

royal tapir
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Nerfed to 1.25x next update

small timber
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tldr yes, multiple ways to do it

small timber
misty lichen
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but like again, adrenaline is the important part. even without the above dps increases the player creates, you’re literally doing 6x the damage with adren.

royal tapir
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There could always be like

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Him charging up some stronger attack that is always followed by being tired

olive saddle
royal tapir
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Yeah I'ma be real, I have to focus to hear the huffing sound

olive saddle
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i feel like some wouldnt notice the heavy breathing becuse its a bit quiet

cosmic musk
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well then we can just make the sound louder

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fnaf 4 style

lucid marsh
misty lichen
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also most people play with sound lowered or off

cosmic musk
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no they don't

small timber
# cosmic musk mf has a custom sound effect

the tldr is always this:

assuming someone do not know that OD have a "rest phase" mechanic and do not use wiki (again, personally I am strongly against the necessity of wiki)

  1. they do not know what that sound is for
  2. no real indication OD is taking more damage (visually, except for damage number, but it is hard to pay attention to damage number unless you are specifically looking for it)
  3. it is a really intensive post-ML fight that is harder than DOG for many people
cosmic musk
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"most people" do not play with sound off

misty lichen
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fine

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a non ignorable amount of people play with sound off or lowered

cosmic musk
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i do agree on it being quiet though

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but that's a pretty simple tweak to make

glass arch
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i just have it at 5%

small timber
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or can also give OD a very tiny (small) transition where it was moving and then slow down to a halt and rest

olive saddle
cosmic musk
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its a pretty simple thing to tweak

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i can mess around with it later if i have some free time

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bc yeah a sound cue for something should be distinct and easy to hear

misty lichen
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not off

small timber
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no idea how this works but well here it goes

golden sonnet
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mushroom shrine:

grim tusk
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Imo giant hive tree needs to die

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Also that

misty lichen
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no idea what you mean with frustration in finding them, they always spawn below the spawn point

crude geode
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No?

small timber
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iirc it is completely random

crude geode
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Yeah

small timber
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there are some additional consideration too:

  1. early game mining power
  2. cal nerf mining speed to require much more minmaxing
  3. luck, just luck (especially large world which is recommended for most of the time)
grim tusk
crude geode
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I’m not so sure about a guaranteed structure but making mushroom biome somehow guaranteed would be nice

sinful violet
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whats wrong with giant hive tree

sinful violet
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i thought people liked giant hive tree

small timber
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just well, if that is the case might as well make it slightly prettier

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I thought people like the giant hive too

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(other than it do not look the prettiest)

misty lichen
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there’s nothing inside it

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and if you spawn qb there’s a decent chance it’ll count as the surface on some parts and enrage

small timber
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imo the main point of hive is for the bee hive mats itself, but yeah I guess that can be a complain

sinful violet
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ah thats why

misty lichen
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basically yeah

sinful violet
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oops!!!

crude geode
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Lmao even

sinful violet
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true

small timber
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I thought that is a small/medium world only issue for some reason

golden sonnet
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I just personally think it feels out of place and conflcits with vernal pass

grim tusk
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^

sinful violet
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what the heck is vernal pass

grim tusk
small timber
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it is that plantera arena

grim tusk
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Jungle is too cluttered

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And there’s too many damn hives already

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Why add another massive one

golden sonnet
misty lichen
small timber
misty lichen
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huh?

small timber
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or that was a different thing

royal tapir
sinful violet
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can you fight The Bee in the plant arena

golden sonnet
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yes

small timber
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I thought mining speed buff happened at the same time as base movement speed/jump height buff (which was a long time ago before the mining speed nerf)

misty lichen
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it enraging mightve been a version difference on my end

royal tapir
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The Bee is an accessory

hexed hamlet
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peepothink about the glowing mushroom

golden sonnet
# golden sonnet yes

hence my dislike of the hive, it just feels like a less visually appealing, less lore related, less useful jungle arena than the vernal which already exists

hexed hamlet
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i did have a ideia about a mushroom biome near the desert you could easily access and it would be kind of a semi crabulon arena

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with a crabulon spawner in it

small timber
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mining speed nerf as in, the patch that nerf most mining speed sources (eg: ancient chisel to like 10% or something)

misty lichen
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ancient chisel and mining potions went from 25% to 15%

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and besides, that’s irrelevant

small timber
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yeah, I remember that suggestion about naturally generating crabulon spawner in a similar style to gelatin crystal

small timber
sinful violet
small timber
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unless I completely missed the fact that cal buffed mining speed a 2nd time after that mining speed sources nerf

royal tapir
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Damn.,.,...

sinful violet
misty lichen
sinful violet
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also planetoids

misty lichen
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they’re easy to find with the glowing

sinful violet
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unless planetoids are GONE

small timber
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there are also people who just cant find bee hives

misty lichen
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that is valid that does happen

drowsy plank
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dedicated mushy structure would be nice

small timber
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it is in general just luck, unless you are specifically seeking for it and dig a lot, by which then it is a matter of grind

drowsy plank
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doesnt even need to be anything crazy just something

small timber
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tldr yeah, nothing super crazy, just a guaranteed source

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planetoid is a bit different since it is in the sky and directly on top of spawn point

crude geode
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Glowing Mushroom is already one of the most naturally pretty areas tbfh

drowsy plank
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giving mush a guaranteed easy way to be found means mush planetoids can die which i can always support

crude geode
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so true, fuck those things

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I love just getting. glowing mushrooms from my planetoids

drowsy plank
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post-ML dungeon minibosses...,..,,.,..

floral yoke
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Agreed, generally you can find a mushy biome pretty easily. If it is like Triangle’s suggestion then it’d just make sense plus be even easier to find

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Then mush planets can go

sinful violet
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planetoids are plenty silly as is if you’re gonna kill one i think they need an overall revamp

small timber
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giant dungeon shark

crude geode
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(I'm trying to kill a couple different birds with one sugg here)

drowsy plank
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no i agree

small timber
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make it so lunatic cultist spawn regularly in post-ML dungeon as a miniboss

crude geode
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true

drowsy plank
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though this could be too specific but like. i like it so

sinful violet
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yeah there’s been plans for a post ML dungeon revamp for a long time along with polter but

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work bottleneck

crude geode
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so true

drowsy plank
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i

misty lichen
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now THIS is a good suggestion

drowsy plank
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I call it... the Fogbound.

crude geode
drowsy plank
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why is meld green now...,.,.,.,.,.

undone cedar
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I call it the soul lobotomizer

floral yoke
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This will fix Calamity.

wide river
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@unborn plaza Please read the Suggestion Guidelines in the pins here
Particularly, you aren't allowed to suggest new bosses, and you aren't allowed to delve this far into specifics

sinful violet
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i am.. bound to the fog after all…

drowsy plank
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lmao ench doing my job

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i was too enticed by fogbound 2

cloud surge
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peak

unborn plaza
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but the pillars is't a boss :v

wide river
serene plinth
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The soul Lobotomizer killed my uncle

ashen warren
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Sure do love SIS

unborn plaza
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but looks good

undone cedar
drowsy plank
buoyant idol
cloud surge
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do not look at his pronouns guys

undone cedar
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its still a very major plan and piece of content that would take a lot of work to make-

drowsy plank
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uh oh

undone cedar
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uh oh!

unborn plaza
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im sorry im mexican :v

sinful violet
unborn plaza
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no puedo hablar asi tanto ingles xd

small timber
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time to make pillar a boss which is only accessible after the shield is down, and if you die during the pillar boss it despawn and not drop any item

sinful violet
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also hitler isnt mexican

drowsy plank
sinful violet
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change that/get rid of it

serene plinth
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Mr electric, KILL HIM

grim tusk
buoyant idol
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Mods, ask if this man is underage (Must be over 11 (troll)) to use Discord.

small timber
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events now is limited to 1 life and if you die during event it reset/despawn lets go

floral yoke
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There’s your answer

small timber
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moons are finally post-Golem in difficulty

ashen warren
small timber
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every 30 seconds martian saucer magnet your weapon from your hand and use it against you

unborn plaza
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looks good

umbral gazelle
novel belfry
umbral gazelle
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man predicted 6 and half hours

cobalt pewter
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if the time runs out, the event ends prematurely

tender crater
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Isn't that just the acid rain

cobalt pewter
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uhhh

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kinda different ig?

lavish condor
olive saddle
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was it calamity or fargos doing it

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because god it pissed me off

fervent orbit
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fargos, but it wasnt one life

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it just reduced ur points and wave

olive saddle
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god why

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that was beyond stupid

fervent orbit
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so u cant just throw urself at moons and get post golem strength gear

sharp ocean
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can someone quickly summarize the suggestion guidelines

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i am okay with reading long messages but 15 pages is crazy

floral yoke
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No specific content suggestions, no future content suggestions (like in changelogs)

olive saddle
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Basically dont ask for new content. Specific item reworks, domt be specific

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I think anyways

floral yoke
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Pretty much yeah

sharp ocean
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ok thanks

warped vector
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is it ok to suggest stuff about the planetoid lab?

floral yoke
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You can also discuss it here if you aren’t sure

warped vector
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i feel like the "Security" system is a bit too easy

olive saddle
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What stuff would you suggest?

olive saddle
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Oh

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Probably fine if you're vague with it

sharp ocean
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why not specific tho

warped vector
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  1. they're on the top of the core, which you can just go under
sharp ocean
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"fix the balance"

olive saddle
small timber
sharp ocean
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no i mean

warped vector
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  1. at least in some other labs, those turrets do hit you if you're not careful
small timber
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wait it was not as bad as I thought

warped vector
small timber
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just that batch probably have acid wood wall or something

warped vector
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nevermind then

small timber
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feel free to suggest a new one

warped vector
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hmm

sharp ocean
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smaller more specific non balance suggestions are fine right

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like moving an item to a different crafting station

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or group

floral yoke
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Yeah, there was one that passed that changed scales to fossils for example

misty lichen
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recipe changes if you have a valid reason is fine

warped vector
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can i send my suggestion here, then y'all discuss whether or not it's valid?

floral yoke
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But it’s one of those things that are there if they don’t completely tier shift an item

misty lichen
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tiershifts are also fine

small timber
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if you have really valid reasoning to make the case

floral yoke
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Usually a lot more strict in that case

sharp ocean
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make it so queen slime drops pink gel

king slime and slime god drop gel, makes sense for queen slime to follow that pattern
normal gel works too

olive saddle
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Not a horrible sugg but it feels off

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I cant put my finger on it

fervent orbit
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w h y

floral yoke
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Any reason why you want it to drop pink gel?

olive saddle
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Wait she doesn't drop normal gel,mm

small timber
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queen slime should drop hallowed ore instead

sharp ocean
small timber
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because slimes drop ore, that is much more common than king slime and slime god

sharp ocean
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it really isnt deep

olive saddle
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QS DOESNT DROP GEL???

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WHAT

small timber
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it is 100% valid argument

sharp ocean
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cant test ingame right now

olive saddle
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The fuck

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That's so odd

floral yoke
warped vector
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Replace the lab turrets in the Space Bio-center Lab to be more functional
As of now (see image), the turrets in the planetoid lab are very easy to evade and doesn't protect the loot in the laboratory itself. This could be problematic, as the Planetoid Lab is one of the easiest lab to scavenge on with many rewards and low risk.

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how about this lads

small timber
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because you have chlorophyte and hallowed at same tier

olive saddle
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Goog, could do with more reason to sway more people but it's optional and not needed

warped vector
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what where

floral yoke
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Hallowed is post mech in vanilla anyway

small timber
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post 1 mech, not post all 3

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and vanilla you get tier 3 ore straight away

sharp ocean
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qs dropping hallowed ore would be unbalanced imo

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qs is much easier than 3 mechs

olive saddle
misty lichen
olive saddle
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Having options is good

olive saddle
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You already have two options per stage

sharp ocean
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make it so queen slime drops pink gel

king slime and slime god drop gel, makes sense for queen slime to follow that pattern
also gastropod drops pink gel so

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thoughts

olive saddle
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Wait gastropods drop pink gel??

floral yoke
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Yeah

olive saddle
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What the actual fuck is this game

warped vector
misty lichen
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gastropods are slimes

floral yoke
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Also true

misty lichen
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they count towards the achievement

sharp ocean
olive saddle
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I mean i know they're slimes but pink'

olive saddle
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This explains it

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Ive killed a solid 5 gastropods in calamity

small timber
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of course it is a balancing issue, but personally I will rather hallowed ore/bar be behind QS to give it more purpose, because tbh even in vanilla it doesn't really make too much sense except for that for most of terraria's lifetime QS dont exist therefore they will not move it from mechs

sharp ocean
floral yoke
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Personally I’d have moved Chlorophyte to post plant

sharp ocean
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does that work

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it kinda does

small timber
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probably

floral yoke
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If plant drops a pickaxe

sharp ocean
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thats crazy

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yeah thats an easy fix

floral yoke
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Just that in cal, perennial exsists

small timber
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the only like, real disadvantage is that unbreakable chlorophyte ore and plantera arena is not a good combination

sharp ocean
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true

small timber
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but yeah, there are other ways to resovle that
(and of course balancing issue aside)

floral yoke
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This is true, or just make Chlorophyte spawn post plant, which would just make it time consuming to do

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But yeah, one issue at a time

small timber
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but I heard they wanted to do something with perennial and I completely forgot what they wanted to do about it

floral yoke
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Perennial mini biome

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Which I think may be scrapped

olive saddle
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Reaver movement helmet my beloved

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I feel like its underrated but it probably isnt

floral yoke
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I think the armor should stay in some form

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Reaver armor is good

olive saddle
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The tank helmet is from what ive heard very op

small timber
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no it is totally useless and don't need nerf at all

olive saddle
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I think you're being sarcastic but i cant tell

small timber
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it is same deal as omega: if you know how to use it it is busted

olive saddle
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Oooh ok

small timber
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(for tank helm more like gearing choice)

olive saddle
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Also is the tank helmet -30% or a 0.7x attack damage reduction

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I assume its a flat 30%

small timber
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you get it back by getting hit

olive saddle
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Yea im just curious if it multiplies your damage by 0.7 or if its a flat 30% decrease

royal tapir
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Flat

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Also I just noticed that the Reaver tank helmet still sets the rogue armor bool to true

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Funny

olive saddle
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What does that mean?

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I assume something stealth related

royal tapir
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Allows stealth

olive saddle
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So it allows stealth but it doesnt give stealth XD

royal tapir
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Okay apparently all of them do

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Wack

sharp ocean
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Hi cit

floral yoke
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Rogue continuing to be unable to get stealth from classless armors

golden sonnet
small timber
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remove it from all except Reaver Headgear

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stealth reduce threat is very useful for building and mining
clueless

olive saddle
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Is it a bad sugg to ask for a shroomite armor set bonus rework

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Cuz rn it seems.. not good

small timber
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last time I tried to make it so the bonus is dynamic it got denied

misty lichen
small timber
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but making it so it is a smaller vortex armor probably will be really busted

sharp ocean
olive saddle
sharp ocean
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Wait

small timber
sharp ocean
misty lichen
sharp ocean
royal tapir
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That's so real

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Me spreading misinformation

olive saddle
sharp ocean
small timber
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so that it dont drop to 0 the instant you start moving

olive saddle
# small timber

Oh i thought you were specific or something with the stealth thing but no you were very broad and it still got denied. Fuck

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Wonder why

olive saddle
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Though it was also years ago

small timber
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the thing is shroomite is good

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it is just an armor with no set bonus basically

olive saddle
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I like silly set bonuses

misty lichen
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i mean to say it’s not useful is literally not true

olive saddle
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It is useful, just so niche that a lot of the time it wont be useful

misty lichen
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stand still during adren for easy damage

small timber
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isnt it used to be the case where if you are attacking while standing still you still don't enter stealth?

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or they fixed/changed it

misty lichen
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don’t think so

olive saddle
sharp ocean
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But consider this

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You can replace the pants

golden sonnet
sharp ocean
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With a pre mech pants

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To get more damage

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At similar defense

olive saddle
small timber
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what if the devs accept rework shroomite armor set bonus suggestion and all they did was move 10% of the 15% of subclass damage stat in helm to set bonus

olive saddle
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Nah its a 1% difference just to say it was reworked

sharp ocean
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anyway I hate ooa armor balancing

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how dare people mix armor sets

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use our set bonuses

olive saddle
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Calamity fixes this partially

fervent orbit
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so stuff like sheath can be used for stealth

sharp ocean
olive saddle
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No it still is

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Viablw

sharp ocean
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does cal have ddu documentation

sharp ocean
olive saddle
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They shift some of the bonuses from the armors to the set bonuses

sharp ocean
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I know

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any decent piece and they just shift the stats to set bonus

olive saddle
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I really feel they should negate the summon damage penalty but im not a game designer

sharp ocean
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its so lame

olive saddle
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No

sharp ocean
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i know forbidden does

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wtf

olive saddle
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None of them do besides forbidden and fearmongerwr

sharp ocean
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here are 8 hybrid and summoner sets

olive saddle
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The summon damage penalty is removed during ooa tho

sharp ocean
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whoops you cant actually use summons

sharp ocean
royal tapir
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That's pretty funny

olive saddle
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Probably why they didnt outright remove summons despawning when using other weapons

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They just made the free damage a lot less op

sharp ocean
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if you wanted to use summons with main weapons

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you could go for a normal armor set

olive saddle
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Wdym normal

sharp ocean
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@royal tapir can u share ddu balancing and changes

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for cal

sharp ocean
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and using free summons on both

olive saddle
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I dont think you should just ping devs like that but idk

olive saddle
sharp ocean
sharp ocean
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i guess it is

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seems a bit counterintuitive to me but ok

olive saddle
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Yes

misty lichen
sharp ocean
misty lichen
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it’s listed in armor

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oh wait

olive saddle
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Dont dig up is what you're referring to right?

sharp ocean
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yes

misty lichen
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why did i think you were talking about sentry armors

olive saddle
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Yea cal doesn't touch it nearly at all

olive saddle
royal tapir
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@tardy smelt Already changed

frail fox
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Saw that coming

fervent orbit
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LGL

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THIS IS WHY I TOLD U TO TELL ME

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BEFORE U POSTED

tardy smelt
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i checked changelogs tho..

royal tapir
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Yeah, the changelogs aren't fully updated

fervent orbit
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THE CHANGELOGS HAVENT BEEN UP TO DATE WITH THE INFO WE GOT FOR SO LONG

royal tapir
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noob please chill

tardy smelt
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nuh uh

fervent orbit
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"i have an idea" she says

tardy smelt
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noob,

fervent orbit
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"i wont tell you" she says

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IHOSEDGBNKSGD

tardy smelt
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my work is done here.

frail mantle
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off she goes

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on a new adventure

royal tapir
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January 19th

misty lichen
golden sonnet
drowsy plank
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the... the lock doesnt do anything while it's in posting...,.,.,.

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ill just lock it when it reaches voting

golden sonnet
drowsy plank
drowsy plank
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@fervent meadow this is waaaaaaay too specific

fervent meadow
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ah mb

drowsy plank
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not to mention im pretty suggestions like this have passed before and the devs already have plans for the uh... "unique" accessories related to amidias and such lmao

(tfw like 3 giant clam accs and they're all kinda bad)

fervent meadow
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makes sense

misty lichen
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amidas in general sucks

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all of his weapons are just different versions of victide items, most being worse

worldly sparrow
#

lgl in calmain?

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weird

drowsy plank
misty lichen
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i did mean functionality wise

frail fox
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He’s beating Fishbone and Coral Spout at the very least (both in viability and functionality)

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So good job to him

drowsy plank
#

true

serene vapor
lucid marsh
#

I remember the weapons being good in terms of stats but their effectiveness ends up being lower than the other (not victide) things available at the same tier

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However that's without any robust testing, just based on feel from trying them a little

north oracle
#

Sand dollar, polyp, and shellshooter are all meta

kindred creek
#

I wanna know if this is a balance issue before I repot it, but to me the new paladin's hammer line just feels kinda bad. Like the DPS is way lower than doing other types of melee builds, like true melee, on the same tier.

small timber
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true melee can be excluded, true melee is meant to deal way more damage than average weapons, otherwise why will you ever use them

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but yeah, for other melee weapon, will just let people who actually test the weapons say their performance

golden sonnet
#

Pretty sure fallens and stellar are both very meta

frail fox
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All 4 are very good damage-wise from what I’ve seem

north oracle
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yeah, the hammers are excellent

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contempt is top 2 with AotE for guards and folly, fallen is very strong, pwnage is one of the best calclone options, and galaxy is a solid contender for yharon, about 10 seconds behind meta iirc don't quote me on that

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triactis is the weakest ontier of the line iirc lmao

frail fox
#

Pretty sure Galaxy is the melee Yharon meta unless you’re very aggressive with other options like cosmic discharge

north oracle
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cosmic shiv is better iirc

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discharge is super agressive but stronger too, yeh

frail fox
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Even when the legendary modifier fix happened, it was about on par with Galaxy

kindred creek
north oracle
frail fox
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That was pre-nerf

wide river
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Get CIT to do it clueless

north oracle
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ahhh, ok
didn't realise it got changed

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yeh, smasher would be the safe yharon meta then

frail fox
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But obviously both weapons got changed

north oracle
proper granite
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i like the most recent sugg a lot, DoT debuffs really are punishing for non-tanky build

proper granite
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@small timber
I made a pass for grammar/recommended word changes

DPS --> DoT (stands for Damage over Time)

non-tanky --> squishy (means the same thing, and reduces the amount of times the word "tank" is used)

HP regen --> either life regen or just regen (both terms are fine to use, but changing the word you use halfway through is unnecessary)

small timber
#

adjusted some, disagreed with some so I will keep the original wording

proper granite
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yeah it looks good

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though since youre saying multiple debuffs now the "is" at the start should be "are"

sorry to be a bit of a nag but i want the highest chance of the sugg getting in

umbral gazelle
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wtf are gramma

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i isnt know about it XD

tender crater
#

I'm so happy master mode is getting officially supported, but is expert rev still going to be the standard even after that?

sand marlin
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There is no doubt about it

tender crater
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Because i was planning on doing weapon testing for fun once the patch drops but my standard form of play is master, and that might invalidate some stuff

small timber
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expert rev should still be the standard by all means yes

sand marlin
#

Master getting support is phrased much differently than what it is actually becoming

tender crater
#

?

small timber
#

Master is looking like a "tuned down Malice", so by all means it is not supposed to be a standard difficulty

sand marlin
#

Whatever death mode is, master is that but more, as death mode got more difficulty changes as well

small timber
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and iirc they stated Master + Death can stack

sand marlin
#

Yeah

small timber
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which is why I felt like it is closer to "Malice"

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just less absurd

sand marlin
tender crater
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I don't think they're making something as stupid as malice again, but i can see the comparisons

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Either way I'm happy

small timber
#

I mean they made GFB so malice is on the plate, but yeah no reason to introduce it when many people are clearly against it

tender crater
#

I just like my games to not hold their punches, even if it isn't the "standard play"

small timber
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just rebrand it by saying it is "Master Mode" changes instead clueless
(though tbh obviously Master Mode is not as hard as Malice)

tender crater
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GFB is bullshit on purpose

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That's like, the whole joke

small timber
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the point is they have the capability to make bosses even more stupid than Malice

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if they want to do it

sand marlin
#

Anyway this is sugg disc, not really much of a topic

tender crater
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True, i just asked here because of the testing stuff

frail halo
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i dont know if anyone else has this issue, but recently i was doing skeletron on infernum in a solo world and sometimes after his rectangle prism phase he would charge at you like a dungeon guardian and one tap you

small timber
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not the channel for infernum stuff

frail halo
#

oh thank you, sorry i didnt notice that

trail fiber
#

hi guys, i have a suggestion but maybe is a bit too much

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what do you think about put a reason for rogue to make the moon events and the old one's army?

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with moon events i mean pumpking and frost moon

warped vector
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Question

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Can you spawn Nighttime Providence anywhere? Is it still biome-locked to hallow / hell?

trail fiber
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why are you asking that in this channel?

warped vector
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because i want to suggest something

buoyant idol
warped vector
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since it's enraged anyway, why biome-lock it

trail fiber
#

as far as i know she doesn't enrage anymore

warped vector
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make her spawnable everywhere specially for night time

warped vector
trail fiber
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oh, i was meaning biome enrage

golden sonnet
#

yeah, she doesn't have a biome enrage

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so this is incrorrect

trail fiber
#

i was about to tell that

warped vector
#

what

golden sonnet
#

You already mentioned it yeah, was just clarifying

trail fiber
golden sonnet
warped vector
#

oh

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lemme fix it up real quick

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there how does it look now

trail fiber
#

is better but i think it stills with the same problem, you could just quit this part and i think it would be fine

warped vector
#

oh right completely forgot that part

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there we go

trail fiber
#

now is good

warped vector
#

thanks

fervent orbit
#

amazing suggestion

topaz light
#

I can't wait to play calamity on my 3ds!

grim tusk
#

@cobalt zealot
1- why?
2- how the fuck would we even do that?
3- the 3ds would get fucking fried 💀

fervent orbit
#

i wonder if anyone has tried to mod 3ds terraria tho,,

topaz light
#

Dude I can't wait to exploit infinite healing against scal

grim tusk
#

Hmm yes perma stun arrows

topaz light
#

Oh I forgot about the boss stunning arrows lmao

fervent orbit
fervent orbit
cobalt zealot
topaz light
#

Dude do you only have terraria on 3ds

sand marlin
grim tusk
#

Terraria goes on like 3 bucks on sale

cyan thunder
floral yoke
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“Idk how to code you figure it out” on a project that would be extremely taxing for no gain

grim tusk
fervent orbit
#

SHUT UP MARIO

cobalt zealot
grim tusk
sand marlin
grim tusk
#

Gfb so it doesnt count lol

cobalt zealot
#

Simple

sand marlin
#

Smh...

cyan thunder
cobalt zealot
drowsy plank
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gfb is not a real gamemode

cyan thunder
ripe owl
cobalt zealot
topaz light
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Don't worry bro it comes out 2025 trust I have inside info

drowsy plank
# cobalt zealot On 3ds

smh you would need to hack your 3DS anyway to get calamity on there even if it was made, plus Hacking Your 3DS Is Rather Simple ultimatesmug

fervent orbit
#

havking your 3ds IS simple

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go on

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do it

cyan thunder
#

give the man the 3ds port he so craves

fervent orbit
#

hack your 3ds

misty lichen
#

it’s actually really easy to hack your 3ds guys

cobalt zealot
buoyant idol
ripe owl
grim tusk
drowsy plank
#

the 3ds is just a fancy computer anyway so just port tmod to it yourself and then you wouldnt even need cal

grim tusk
topaz light
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Dude calamity GameCube port

cobalt zealot
#

I just used mk7 for the 1.17

trail fiber
sand marlin
#

Very topic

ripe owl
#

Okay now how is hacking 3ds related to Calamity suggestions? clueless

grim tusk
cobalt zealot
ripe owl
#

Yeah, but like

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At this point it's just 3ds hacking in general

grim tusk
cobalt zealot
topaz light
sand marlin
ripe owl
sand marlin
#

This just seems like a drawnout thing

cobalt zealot
#

Is a Wii U calamity port possible

grim tusk
cobalt zealot
drowsy plank
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any port is possible if you code it yourself

grim tusk
#

And there even isnt Terraria on Wii U

cobalt zealot
whole tundra
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Wait lemme search the image

ripe owl
whole tundra
#

Found this on google

cobalt zealot
grim tusk
cobalt zealot
#

I want to fight supreme calmamitas witch now

whole tundra
#
Terraria Wiki

The Old-gen console version of Terraria was published by 505 Games and developed by Engine Software. It is a port of the  Desktop version, which is developed by Re-Logic. This version contains exclusive content not available on other versions, including enemies, achievements, music tracks and Music Boxes, armor, weapons, pets, and a boss, but mo...

sleek turret
drowsy plank
topaz light
cobalt zealot
drowsy plank
#

i dont know what the middle ground is for... pirating the wii u version but... in general just dont

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thanks

cobalt zealot
sleek turret
#

Steam Spring Sale is like in a few days actually

topaz light
#

Oh sweet

sleek turret
#

So it's very probable that it's gonna be half price

ripe owl
#

Having Terraria is one half of a problem

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Or, rather

floral yoke
#

Terraria is dirt cheap

sleek turret
#

oops steamdb link

ripe owl
#

Idk how expensive computers in the US are

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But basically

sleek turret
#

Either way check for prices actually because it might be even cheaper/more expensive depending on the country

ripe owl
#

Yeah, you gotta have a computer to play Terraria on in the first place

sleek turret
#

Terraria here in Uruguay costs 5 dollars normally and 2 dollars and 50 cent on sale

cobalt zealot
ripe owl
#

Yeah, you are a troll alright

topaz light
#

Womp womp...

cobalt zealot
sleek turret
#

emulate 3ds and play Terraria there

cobalt zealot
median scaffold
#

Play Calamity on phone

sleek turret
median scaffold
cobalt zealot
sleek turret
#

Calamity on phone is real unironically

median scaffold
drowsy plank
#

calamity mod la telefone..,.,.,.,

median scaffold
#

My phone just dies everytime I try to load Calamity

drowsy plank
#

ehhhhh

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tbf it aint REAL calamity

sleek turret
#

There's a brazilian modder afaik that is implementing various calamity stuff into mobile Terraria

drowsy plank
#

bro took um.

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"creative liberties"

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to say the least

median scaffold
#

(Copy pasted, you mean?)

#

1.3 versions are funny, ngl clueless

floral yoke
#

Who’s the person apparently working on the Calamity “mobile port”

ripe owl
#

No, there's no source code copied as far as we all are aware

drowsy plank
#

nah nah it's actually mostly original code which
makes the modern cal sprites look very out of place when the weapons and bosses are behaving like their 1.0 versions HDfailure

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do not look at desert scourge's AI on mobile worst mistake of my life

floral yoke
#

Wait is there actual video of it now?

median scaffold
#

Oh, maybe I know why my mobile "tMod" dies everytime I try to load the game

ripe owl
#

Not like some certain mod cough cough

median scaffold
# floral yoke Wait is there actual video of it now?

Yes, this is not a joke.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PD5YG5PJMpgVf8YtIzkHU3Rsjm6i_31I/view?usp=drivesdk

This is the download for mobile TML, It will crash if you open it for the first time but dont worry about that. Then you open it again, wait for the game to load. Once it's loaded, close the app, download Calamity Mod 1.4.3.2 from Mount...

▶ Play video
#

There is.

floral yoke
#

Omfg

median scaffold
#

That's just surreal at this point
When is the 1.4 Calamity coming on mobile? clueless clueless clueless

median scaffold
#

Please

sleek turret
#

Calamity Mod Overhaul

median scaffold
#

...oh, it copied Calamity code?

drowsy plank
floral yoke
#

It copied a lot of code

sleek turret
#

Infernum code afaik

floral yoke
#

Infernum shaders namely

sleek turret
#

And also Stars Above code but idk exactly what they copied

#

So I have to do some research regarding that

median scaffold
sleek turret
#

The infernum shaders part they alredy took it out from the mod

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They also apologized

median scaffold
#

Warding Nerf.

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I... uhh, missed a lot of changelogs, am I?

small timber
#

instead of being really overpowered, it is now just good (probably still more like "really good")

drowsy plank
#

it was so fucking bad man

median scaffold
#

I forgot potions actually scaled

sleek turret
#

Wait that's the Murasama thing

median scaffold
drowsy plank
#

yeah this is mura's overhaul code

sleek turret
#

YandereDev's code is way more attrocious than this code actually

drowsy plank
#

no this is pretty bad

median scaffold
drowsy plank
#

every variable in those if statement leads to a function which runs another if statement

#

it's so fucking bad dude

median scaffold
#

So it's just if squared?

sleek turret
#

If you kill all the NPCs in Yansim the game FPS increases exponentially since they're all scripted into 1 single file

grim tusk
ripe owl
#

Me when cases exist

median scaffold
#

Moon Lord AI clueless

#

What actually wrong with it, does anybody (expect devs) know?

ripe owl
#

(I still wish I could understand cases better)

grim tusk
#

Ask CIT

sleek turret
#

It's unoptimized from what I can see

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I don't know exactly which function can be used to optimize it but it can definitively be optimized

floral yoke
#

I’d ask for an in-depth discussion on it, but considering it’s horrid code I’d expect it to not be very easy to explain XD

drowsy plank
#

all i know is that it's very hard to parse and considering we have to work off a decompiled version of it that means no comments too

not that we're even sure that the moon lord code IS commented in the normal version lmfao..,.,.,.

floral yoke
#

Red was just like… Eh throw some stuff together until it works

#

Working on Duct Tape and dreams

sleek turret
#

I bought the 2 games for like less than 3 bucks

umbral gazelle
umbral gazelle
fossil finch
#

Agreeable suggestion

umbral gazelle
low venture
#

Don't see no rules about it so...

golden sonnet
#

They are indeed not

golden sonnet
#

Check the pinned suggestion guidelines and rules

wide river
#

(Here is said rule in the document that Raesh mentioned)

low venture
#

AHH I SEE

#

I will wait til dog is out then XD

wide river
golden sonnet
fossil finch
#

Agreeable suggestion

median scaffold
#

#suggestions-posting message
Actually, I thought about maybe remaking Monk and Shinobi to rogue sets, but... I don't think it's the time to do summoner related things XD

drowsy plank
#

would be nice tbh

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esp since im p sure it lost most of it's melee speed?

hollow idol
#

this is planned (at least for daybroken)
however: sprite

fervent orbit
#

sprite indeed

hollow idol
fervent orbit
#

doesnt oiled also need one

median scaffold
sand marlin
#

The debuff is Betsy's Curse for reference

median scaffold
#

Yeah, my bad

golden sonnet
#

LGL made it in, deploy the 🔒

fervent orbit
#

@drowsy plank iirc

golden sonnet
#

I should ping them again iirc

stable kiln
#

p

drowsy plank
#

uh oh

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someone marked it with a flag so i marked it with a flag

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but someone else just marked it with a lock

#

im sure this will cause 0 issues

stable kiln
#

oh is it a flag

golden sonnet
stable kiln
#

oops

drowsy plank
#

also strange how the bot just Did Not React to this

stable kiln
#

im not as caught up as i should be apologies i just read here

drowsy plank
#

maybe i should try reacting again?

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ur fine dw

stable kiln
#

give the bot a few

golden sonnet
drowsy plank
#

alright

median scaffold
wide river
#

Maker and manager of the Suggestion Bot

drowsy plank
#

that shouldnt make the bot Not post it

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@inland saddle could you look at this when you get a chance? thanks

inland saddle
golden sonnet
#

Was given a flag but didn't put a message here

random talon
#

2 scam links in 2 minutes

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crazy

golden sonnet
#

Adobe is free

fervent orbit
#

the 2nd one wasnt adobe

olive saddle
fervent orbit
#

not sure on the first

olive saddle
#

or some renewable way to obtain them because god they're so useful 😭

#

everything is renewable if you make a new world

floral yoke
#

Should be evil crates, easy

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But seriously, why isn’t it renewable at all HDfailure

wide river
#

I'd assume they aren't because they're the unique Shrine loot

median scaffold
wide river
#

However, since these ones can be placed in the world and aren't an actual piece of equipment, I'd say these are fair game to be renewable

median scaffold
#

Make the shrine loot dropped by corrensponsive crates

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...uhh, noo, actually, wouldn't really work

fervent orbit
#

kinda weird how the evil effigies and luxors gift can be basically be used for the entire game with no consequence and then theres like

#

trinket of chi

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and fungal symbiote

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and rimehound mount thingy forgot the exact name

olive saddle
#

tundra leash or smth

wide river
#

Tundra Leash

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Ye

golden sonnet
#

I like how rimehound is like, slower than onyx

median scaffold
#

What is this...

fervent orbit
#

im not sure how ugc and gladiators locket fair up currently

median scaffold
#

Gladiator's locket is fine iirc

fervent orbit
#

"When equipped, it makes enemies drop healing orbs upon death which are affected by gravity. The healing orbs restore 10 health when touched and disappear after 20 seconds. The player also gains an increase to their damage and movement speed equal to the percentage of their missing health multiplied by 0.2. For example, if the player's max health was 400 and their current health was 200, they would gain 10% damage and movement speed; if it was 100, they would gain 15%, etc. "

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eh

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kinda weird how the acc that gives u dmg bonus on low hp would heal u

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and that is quite the low bonus

median scaffold
#

And how rare those are...

fervent orbit
#

what if you made the damage multiplica-

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💥

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as for ugc

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"When equipped, every 5 seconds the player gains an invisible energy field that will send out blue arc lightning to shock all enemies within a 20-block radius for 18 typeless damage with 25 armor penetration for another 5 seconds. "

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this seems fine ig

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just very low dmg

#

i cant tell if shrine items are supposed to be whole game viable or pre boss only or what

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because theyre all so different

topaz light
#

Wait actually which description is that

#

In game or wiki

fervent orbit
#

gladiators locket

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wiki

topaz light
#

Oh nvm

#

I thought that was the in game description for a sec

sleek turret
#

Skeletron for example because the shock jumps between enemies too

#

It's also probably pretty intentional for early-game exploring because the item is so good for killing enemies especially in Underground Jungle and/or Desert

grave zincBOT
#

@bronze cosmos - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make factories and charging stations craftable]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

#

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Buff Arcane and Quick Reforges]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

olive saddle
#

both are Ws

#

i kinda hope arcane gets more mana regen so its actually useful but i doubt itll be useful vs lucky still

#

meta will still probably be mana flower which is sadge

novel belfry
#

But still

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It would be a step into the right direction

grim tusk
#

@drowsy plank given that the bot is now alive again maybe try getting rid of the checkered flag reactions and adding one back in

grave zincBOT
#

@tardy smelt - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove Anahita's Contact Damage Outside of Charges]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

drowsy plank
#

there we go

royal tapir
#

Glad LGL can know about this now

drowsy plank
#

of course

bronze cosmos
#

let's goo!

tender crater
#

I'm curious as to how they'll buff arcane

#

Quick is obvious, it's either going to be 6-8% mov speed or still 4% but with added jump speed

#

But arcane could be a lot of things

olive saddle
#

i want to make a sugg for auric fart cart

worn coyote
#

do it

misty lichen
olive saddle
#

i hope its valid

#

it is mildly serious, auric fart kart would be great

#

main thing is probably spriters are needed

small timber
#

I am almost certain the suggestion rule still keep "no joke suggestion"

olive saddle
#

fair enough

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i did say i was serious but if it does violate the rule then ill delete it

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ah fuck it

#

dont want to waste someones time

small timber
#

imagine suggesting for auric fart kart when you can suggest for auric wood armor
the truly unique armor set

olive saddle
#

lmao

#

attackers take stupid contact damage but you also die in 1 hit

small timber
#

Add Auric Wood Armor

I had this amazing idea I had since I first played Calamity mod. What if, just what if, you give every single wood armor in the game some minor stat set bonus, like +5 defense on wood armor, +5% movement speed on shade wood armor, +5% flight time on pearl wood armor, +5% breathing meter for palmwood armor etc...

And then at Auric Tier you combine them all into the super ultra omega Auric Wood Armor (it has precedent from Auric Tesla Armor combining the post-ML armor set bonus so this is legit), and then inherit and amplify the stat of all set bonus to relevant level, like +20 defense, +20% movement speed, +20% flight time... And BOOM the ultimate armor that truly captures the essence of Calamity gameplay and grinding, and makes crafting the wood armors much more meaningful and worthwhile. It is like the Zenith of Wood Armor but even better because it is actually cool

olive saddle
#

you need to put peanut butter in your eyes and put cotton in your nose and ears and eyeballs and mouth

sleek turret
#

You need to take out the bugs in your skin before making this armor.

rough sorrel
#

ngl, i do feel like god slayer dash could be changed, but i doubt i'm smart enough to write a good suggestion on it CalOwO

warped vector
#

what why change

#

i thought it's good?

rough sorrel
#

i feel like it could be a more single target focused thing other than what it is rn, since y'know... you only really use the armor to fight yharon, so piercing through it is not that big

warped vector
#

you can dash through projectiles and stuff with it, + auric inherits the dash

rough sorrel
#

like, do the whole corinth prime shock wave thing after hitting a target and when you hit the target you still keep going forward

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the dash is very used for like, running away from yharon more than being used offensively like ram dashes are, so i do think that being more focused on a single target/shockwave damage would be nice CalOwO

warped vector
#

so you mean something damaging?

rough sorrel
#

probly like, increasing it's damage a bit more, the dash distance is the same but when you hit the target, you cause a shockwave like the galaxy smasher one, since the whole piercing thing it can do is decently useless on yharon yup

olive saddle
rough sorrel
#

and after spending the big damage on the enemy you decelerate CalPat

warped vector
#

not really?

#

the cooldown is okay

rough sorrel
#

45 seconds for a dash is kinda situational

warped vector
#

healing potion

rough sorrel
#

so giving more use to it is pretty nice

#

again, it is only useful for dodging yharon's fire barrage, since 3K damage is not that much on yharon

#

and i guess for events, but a shockwave would be just as good for events

olive saddle
#

They're simple yet effective

rough sorrel
olive saddle
#

Godslayer dash does a fair few things that seems oddly situational

#

If you want to cleanse debuffs then use purity

sleek turret
#

It's niche

olive saddle
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Its good movement but that cooldown is rough

sleek turret
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If you want survivability in general just use Purity line

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It's just so good

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Absorber is also pretty good

warped vector
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well i dont really know much about god slayer dash

olive saddle
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It cleanses almost all debuffs, deals i think 3000 damage and inflicts godslayer inferno, makes you immune to damage for its dash duration, and can be used omnidirectionally

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On a 45 second cooldown

sleek turret
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Does it cleanse the debuffs or does it make you immune to the effects of the debuffs for the duration of the dash?

warped vector
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art

rough sorrel
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would do an actual try if i had the god slayer dash sprite but uhhh, nah :3

warped vector
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would you like a gsd sprite

rough sorrel
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is there a way to get just the sprite of it?

rough sorrel
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wtf FallWithinMyCalculations

sand marlin
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i mean, it would still be the same, but instead of the whole piercing it would be more single targeted with a shockwave becuz shockwaves are very cool i guess :p

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with the player still getting the immunity frames after ramming through the enemy

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also, while looking at this, i just noticed that the middle dummy didn't got the debuff, is it supposed to happen?

warped vector
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uh oh

buoyant idol
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@dusk crown Suggestions for references aren’t allowed.

sleek turret
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Chargebacking the SCal projectiles would be so fun but I feel like it's too much for Midas Prime honestly

median scaffold
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I forgot Midas Prime exist wires

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flint notch
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Insert Iban quote here

rough sorrel
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a friend of mine just did a better drawing of my idea lol

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i did ask to be simple so no big effect tho CalOwO

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rough sorrel
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yharon training dummy moment

rough sorrel
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Did you played Fargo's souls by any chance?

rough sorrel
rough sorrel
median scaffold
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There's an item from Queen Bee giving you a pretty good dash, which doesn't have a giant cooldown (it's... pretty much useless since you just forget about it)

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And it also on a separate button, which is pretty weird

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kinda, my idea is that it would be better for single target, since the whole just piercing part is kinda meh, but it would still have a cool shockwave on impact like that ranger weapon has for crowd control

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lemme find the name of the weapon

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sleek turret
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It's pretty much useless outside of tmelee post-yharon

rough sorrel
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Both rogue and ranger tries to have some distance with the boss since those two classes don't really want to be close to literally anything

rough sorrel
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and i guess you can use it for scal and exo mechs, but not really that offensively, so it would still keep it's use but better for single target

sleek turret
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For rogue there isn't a reward for getting close to a boss in particular afaik

median scaffold
rough sorrel
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It's great at movement (especially tmelee, again), but the cooldown is... killing the thing

rough sorrel
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tru

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