suggestions-discussion

[hollow shell]

Phantom Debris was also my doing and that was more so my fault
I did intend for that to be in the Underground and I wanted it to be like, disguised as a rock ("ambient object") and ambush you when you got close
But I didn't provide any disguised frames in the sprite sheet so it just got added as a regular always-active Fighter AI enemy,
and in hindsight it's just a bit inelegant to have one random phanto enemy not be in the Dungeon where the rest are

[novel belfry]

oh you made these

sorry to see that your babies never got to their full potential

[odd cradle]

We're always wiser the following day, it happens

[hollow shell]

If I could do it again then I woulda done it differently
Probably would have made 3 sprites for Soldier, one for each faction
And if I kept Debris at all I woulda made it disguise as Dungeon-specific objects instead, be them ambient or furniture or something, and provided the frames in the sheet to let it be disguised

Oh well.

[odd cradle]

🤷
It's how it's

[hollow shell]

anyway yeah good suggestion, nobody's satisfied with those guys as they are currently afaik

[odd cradle]

Honestly I'd be down to see them reworked, there is potential

[hollow shell]

maybe

[novel belfry]

It could work

[median scaffold]

[ripe owl]

@full flint please change the recipe part. Other than that, the suggestion is fine

[serene vapor]

Small additions aren’t against the rules, as far as I know

@quiet kettle While I agree that it would be cool, there isn’t a definite purpose to add a Supreme Calamitas/Calamitas themed mount

[ripe owl]

Yeah you need a better reasoning than "it's cool"

[quiet kettle]

I just think it would help out with people making calamitas themed characters

[serene vapor]

We already have a vanity set for that

[ripe owl]

Yeah no that's not really a reason

You can try suggesting something like that in CalVal

[quiet kettle]

Also, it would be helpful to have maybe something that's better than the exo chair

[serene vapor]

Why? The exo chair is good enough as it is

[ripe owl]

Also Exos and SCal are on the same level

[quiet kettle]

Although there IS the brimrose

[cloud obsidian]

whar

[sand marlin]

SCal's fight doesn't really have something that would fit as a mount not gonna lie

[ripe owl]

Skull 💀

[serene vapor]

Unless you’re talking about her old design, which we already have a pet for

[misty lichen]

THE BRIMSTONE BULL

[quiet kettle]

YES

[ripe owl]

Anyway, I think there is not really a lot of reason to leave this suggestion so I'll delete it

Anybody mind?

[quiet kettle]

I would personally sprite a Brimstone bull

I have aseprite and plan on making lots of stuff for mods

[ripe owl]

Again, you have better chances at making such suggestion for Calamity Vanities

[quiet kettle]

I see

How about I edit it to something else

[serene vapor]

Best of luck in your future endeavors

[quiet kettle]

Thank you! I think I got accepted by Shade Mod!

[ripe owl]

You could try, but if it's gonna be something different then it's better to just delete the old and write a new one

[quiet kettle]

Oh right, because it has reactions

[ripe owl]

Nah, reactions are easy to delete

It's just

[quiet kettle]

Oh okay

[ripe owl]

Simplier?

[quiet kettle]

Also, I'd like to take a look at all the class weapons of the bosses

I'm sure there's a weapon for each class, but I'd still like to check

[drowsy plank]

im pretty sure there is supposed to be a class divide between the bosses tbf

[olive saddle]

probably biased but christ reaper sharks have so much fuckin health

what the fuck why does a single reaper shark have almost a 1/3rd of the health as polterghast

ok so no wonder i feel like it takes forever they have a 1/3rd of a recent boss's health

you could also just increase the amt of reaper teeth dropped that works too ig

[sand marlin]

This is a pretty good sugg

[quiet kettle]

Wait isn't insanity a moderator in one of the calamity addon servers

[sand marlin]

Infermain?

[olive saddle]

i figured since it takes for fucking ever to kill at least one and the amount you get is piss poor

[quiet kettle]

Oh yeah that's where I know you from

Hi ❤️

[sand marlin]

Anyway back to topic

[misty lichen]

i feel like you should be spending a longer amount of time in the t4 abyss so the gameplay doesn’t just become go down, get 2 items then leave. but there’s no way to do that without just making shit longer to grind

[sand marlin]

I mean t4 is literally the void

There is nothing but the minibosses and bobbits

And uh one more enemy I think

[quiet kettle]

Also the fast breath drain

[cloud obsidian]

bloatfish

[misty lichen]

i don’t think this is true, you only need to kill like 2 for most weapons

[quiet kettle]

Idk why but the breath drain is extremely fast no matter what I do in t4 abyss

[sand marlin]

For weapons yeah it's one or two
It's just Omega Blue taking a lot of teeth

[misty lichen]

i think it’s just omega blue armor

[olive saddle]

reaper teeth in general are pretty scarce

oh

nvm

yea i see now its just omegablue armor

[misty lichen]

every craft that isnt omega blue takes 6 or less, which is minimum 2 sharks

[sand marlin]

Max you can get is gills, suit and cshell or something of equivalent strength, aquatic emblem does not work because it is literally gills so they don't stack

[olive saddle]

yea i see now, doesnt change how much omega blue takes but its not nearly as bad as i thought

[sand marlin]

You can also fish

[olive saddle]

fishing works too

[quiet kettle]

There's also amidias blessing, but there isn't really a fast way of getting to the abyss, and there's only like 1 npc that can breathe underwater so I can't use a pylon

[olive saddle]

though for some reason calamity players dont like to fish

[cloud obsidian]

fishing fun

[sand marlin]

Teleporters

[olive saddle]

im not one of those people its fun

[misty lichen]

probably true

[quiet kettle]

I'll also have to take breaths outside of the abyss, and the minibosses despawn when i teleport outside the abyss

[olive saddle]

the helmet alone takes 8 and thats already more than anything else

[misty lichen]

never gone out of my way for omega blue will confess

[olive saddle]

its really good if you know what you're doing

otherwise its a hard avoid since it eats life regen

[serene vapor]

it’s good for DoG and not much else

because of when it’s obtained

[olive saddle]

it depends on playstyle but yea dog is the main use case

[misty lichen]

1 that’s not true 2 that’s not what we’re talking about

[olive saddle]

its decent for yharon if you play that way

it also eats thanatos but thats becasue its thanatos

[serene vapor]

I feel like layer 4 abyss drops should be after Providence instead of polterghast, just my thoughts

[olive saddle]

prov already gives bloodstone

dont need to kill ravager and do abyss stuff, then polter is useless

[serene vapor]

tier 3 acid rain

plus all the sentinels don’t progress the game in any way, yet none of them are useless

[sand marlin]

It can't be moved to prov for sure but it's also currently not the best on polter

[olive saddle]

old... duke..?

gives a reason to fight it ig

[sand marlin]

It used to make sense for polter before

[serene vapor]

yeah

[serene vapor]

why

[sand marlin]

Lore

[serene vapor]

ah yes the lore

I need a doc of the old lore

[olive saddle]

now its just a bunch of people kinda stuck together i think

[small timber]

omega blue is insanely overpowered, but most people cant use it comfortably and properly

[serene vapor]

I guess you could say Polterghast is a feral amalgamation

[sand marlin]

Isn't that just OD rest phase

[olive saddle]

almost like the song is named after the boss

[sand marlin]

The one time a boss allows you to get close without giving you a headache

[small timber]

#1042197406776827914 message

OK I still have the omega blue video

[olive saddle]

i didnt know old duke had a rest phase until recently

[sand marlin]

-Unknown

Oh old balance suggs

[small timber]

I am almost certain omega blue will be WAY better next patch

because of contact damage changes

[quiet kettle]

Speaking of old duke

[olive saddle]

holy fuckin christ

[quiet kettle]

Why do both dukes want to kill you

[olive saddle]

cuz you fished them up

[quiet kettle]

You're basically just feeding hem

[small timber]

omega blue also definitely melt old duke

as in, the tentacle

[quiet kettle]

Old people don't like tentacles

[sand marlin]

I'm gonna be honest if you play perfectly like that even just natural regen would've healed just as much lmao

[olive saddle]

i could also probably make a sugg to make old dukes rest phase a bit more obvious because the heavy panting can sometimes be drowned out by the noise and you cant really tell that hes taking more damage

[quiet kettle]

Also how the fuck is a literal fish almost as powerful as a fuckin god eater

[olive saddle]

silva i think

[small timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cqZDnHG4To&t=7m22s
self promote but yeah I dont have other good old duke showcase prepared

[olive saddle]

something got blessed by silva

[north oracle]

self promotion detected

[quiet kettle]

I love how it worked for a second then it stopped working

[median scaffold]

[quiet kettle]

It's like it suddenly realized "oh shit this isn't a media channel"

[median scaffold]

Nerf the omega blue recipe!

[quiet kettle]

I agree

[olive saddle]

it is a massive outlier compared to other reaper teeth recipes

[quiet kettle]

Infernum reaper shark is a bitch to deal with as is

[olive saddle]

the top thing takes 6 and the cheapest part of omega blue is 8

[sand marlin]

I mean yeah that is what it's saying

[median scaffold]

Yes, would like to see it

Goddamn Infernum and, pretty much, goddamn Calamity

[olive saddle]

its also armor and not a weapon and you generally need all the pieces of armor

so on top of it having an outlier cost you need 3x reaper teeth

[small timber]

you can say that but that is also the point:

omega blue is already much more offensively better than other on-tier armor
if it can also reach "normal" or above normal performance than it is just an "offensive oriented armor" instead of "nohitter armor"

that is the distinction

[misty lichen]

it’s a tradeoff effect

[small timber]

one is your armor is stronger offensively, one is "you die as soon as you take a hit", the showcase is to proof that it is not the later

[median scaffold]

Btw, are reaper shark teeth still post-old duke?

[olive saddle]

post polter

oh

the crate is after old duke

wow

[misty lichen]

we have to ignore the high damage from the tentacles because that’s just it’s own balance issue; replacing life regen for close range lifesteal tentacles is a valid tradeoff that will be more negative towards less experienced players

[median scaffold]

That's also pretty weird?

[misty lichen]

i do not think it’s too good in any way except for the tentacles dealing too much damage

[sand marlin]

Defensively it's not really comparable to Auric still
For God Slayer yeah I do think God Slayer needs a buff, already talked all about this before so to keep it short GSD should get a buff so that the armor has significance, in this way God Slayer would also have an edge over Omega Blue for being a tier above it

[median scaffold]

I don't know about the crate, but I think it should be post-polter. Maybe it made that way so the player can't just... not go to the abyss?

[olive saddle]

all crates are like that

[median scaffold]

Wdym?

[olive saddle]

you cant get abyss stuff after skeletron until wof has been killed

oddly enough this doesnt apply to ores?

or weapons

[misty lichen]

until sg has been killed*

[olive saddle]

oh is it slimegod?

[misty lichen]

that applies to the weapons

[olive saddle]

i think its either or

[misty lichen]

sg or wof yes

[sand marlin]

An artifact of old cal

Waiting until this is moved to skeletron

[olive saddle]

oh that explains the discrepancy

[full flint]

i got an exclamation point on my suggestion and i was pinged in #suggestions-discussion , what am i meant to do

[misty lichen]

ores are very easy to obtain, abyss items are very difficult to obtain and getting them with no combat is skipping a decent portion of the game experience

[olive saddle]

change the sugg to not have the recipe

[sand marlin]

Read what you were pinged for

[misty lichen]

the post sg thing should stay imo

[sand marlin]

So you're saying fishing should be removed

[misty lichen]

no that’s not what i said

[full flint]

oh yeah i didnt look for messages past today but i forgot it was midnight

[misty lichen]

pull up the image of that one tweet

[sand marlin]

Yeah I get that having to go to abyss makes you spend some effort on getting them but like

The entire point of fishing is to not do (extra) combat to get the items

[median scaffold]

Why is?

[sand marlin]

It doesn't really make sense in any other case besides for the sake of "balance" even though there are million other examples of this that are fine

[median scaffold]

[misty lichen]

i do think the abyss is just different

it’s an incredibly major and lengthy part of calamity gameplay for new players

[median scaffold]

There won't be any abyss reworks or smth, yeah?

[misty lichen]

i doubt it, outside of layer 4 the abyss is really good

[median scaffold]

Yeah, sounds about right

[misty lichen]

enemies actually do things instead of being vanilla ais

[olive saddle]

i was gonna say reaper shark but its outside of layer 4

[sand marlin]

If we're talking about new players anyway

Who would actually fish?

[median scaffold]

Not me

[sand marlin]

And specifically after skeletron for the abyss loot

[median scaffold]

[sand marlin]

And if they did fish

And not get the items

[median scaffold]

I think it's a pretty weird part of the game

[misty lichen]

a lot of people

[sand marlin]

Then they wouldn't do it again after SG, that makes no sense

[median scaffold]

And gets to the "player should be guided towards more obscure content" suggestion

[olive saddle]

in general terraria has a problem with lack of feedback

[misty lichen]

i mean, the game tells you in a chat message every time the abyss gets new content

[sand marlin]

Ok I'll admit it that was a bit exeggerated by me, that specific message

[olive saddle]

you get vague indicators of what luck is without really knowing what it even does its such an obscure yet integral part of grinding

[sand marlin]

But this is still an issue

[misty lichen]

i kinda see it

the only way to make that happen and not make fishing invalidate exploration is like, making it rarer which is bleh

[olive saddle]

fishing power is already kind of weird as is

[sand marlin]

I've never had trouble fishing myself as I do spend a lot of time on it, enjoying it and getting as much as I can as I do so

[olive saddle]

if you half its chance its going to do weird shit and not actually half its chance because fishing power is fishing power

[sand marlin]

So I can't say too much about making it rarer having any effects

For me it would be nothing

[misty lichen]

they’re crate items though?

lol

[olive saddle]

i thought you meant making the crates themselves rarer

[misty lichen]

all crates have a set chance to be caught then it chooses a type

[olive saddle]

so fishing power just determines the type?

[misty lichen]

i think

[olive saddle]

it would make sense if it did

better fishing power = better quality loot

[misty lichen]

it might not improve biome crate chances but i think it will give you more iron/gold than wood

[sand marlin]

Crate has a lot of other stuff that's not strictly the difficult to get items you're looking for so

Best to just tweak the inside crate chances if anything

[small timber]

imo it is like this:

1. the main point of fishing should be for exclusive drops (to certain degree this is constantly being reduced), and for "grinding" an item to be its side/secondary function
2. a secondary function of fishing is to provide a renewable sources of limited items without resorting to just "oh hey here is a crafting recipe"
3. fishing should not be the primary (or easier) way to obtain an item unless it is a fishing exclusive drops
4. tldr:

i) Reaver Shark, Abyssal Amulet etc are what you try to get from fishing, not Archerfish etc which are meant to be reward for exploration
ii) as an alternative renewable soruces of limited items, it being available post-SG instead of post-Skeletron is fine to me

[coral carbon]

I literally did not know there was an audio indication

with all the other sound going on it just seems like normal old duke sounds

[olive saddle]

Yea he starts fucking HEAVING

I didnt know he had one until literally looking it up

[coral carbon]

Yeah i never really noticed any indication as to when he's tired tbh

like I know he stops moving but when im still dodging all his projectiles and shit

its hard for me to tell

he's off-screen most of the time anyways

and like you said its not really a noticable increase in damage so the only reason I knew about the tired thing was the wiki

[olive saddle]

I'll leave it in there. Only harm done is it getting deleted or flagged

Which is unlikely as I was extremely broad with it

[sand marlin]

I don't think you're allowed to sugg before 24h pass after your previous sugg actually

Yeah I just read the doc again

[olive saddle]

Oh fuck

[sand marlin]

Just save it for tomorrow

[olive saddle]

I should probably actually read the doc fully because i know the general rules but i didnt know that

Oh its two

Cannot post more than two per day it says

Ill still save it though

Better to get more feedback about the one i already have for now

[sand marlin]

Yeah

Suppose it wasn't phrased the best

[olive saddle]

Dont worry it doesn't matter too much

[hollow shell]

@ripe owl Is Onyx's suggestion fine now?

[sand marlin]

They removed specific recipe and that was the only issue then but uh, maybe weak reasoning?

Capping it off with just a "it looks cool" doesn't work well even though the base had something better in mentioning "this lacks a dye"

[hollow shell]

Not much reasoning necessary for a pure vanity suggestion

[sand marlin]

Ig yeah it's the same as any other wulfrum tiles sugg

This should be fine then?

[ripe owl]

Yes

Removed the exclams

[whole tundra]

Just going to put this here at first so i can gain some feedback before posting it officially.

Rewrite the piercing part of Opal Striker's tooltip to make it more clear

Currently, the Opal Striker has a pretty vague tooltip when mentioning about it being able to pierce. Yes, it states that it can pierce, but how many times is left unanswered. When you do not fully charge it, it pierces only once. When you do fully charge it, it pierces twice. It's left in the dark that it changes depending on charging. So i'm suggesting to rewrite the piercing part of the tooltip to make it more clear.

[worthy lintel]

@south bolt don't, thank you

[wide river]

I think it's good, especially considering afaik the line about a charged shot also doesn't mention that it pierces more

[whole tundra]

Then i guess i'll post it, ty!

[median scaffold]

#suggestions-posting message
Surely, this is the right server

[whole tundra]

@oak otter Not the right server

[oak otter]

What server so

[whole tundra]

#other-discords

[wide river]

Goshdangit the bot's down again
Could it please stop dying every two weeks

[whole tundra]

I literally just wanted to comment about that

[wide river]

Same brain cell

[whole tundra]

I guess i should reply to myself with a snail emoji

@whole tundra 🐌

[drowsy plank]

doesnt arcane have the best mana reduction or

[serene vapor]

Tied with magnet flower

But magnet flower is obtainable prehardmode

[serene vapor]

Does my suggestion break any rules

I can never tell

[lethal heath]

ARCANE REFORGE SHOULD INCLUDE MANA REDUCTION IN CALAMITY holy

[serene vapor]

I forgor what mana reduction is

[serene vapor]

I’m talking about the Arcane Flower, not the arcane modifier

[median scaffold]

How much mana do you use

[lethal heath]

Yeah it was just a random thought in my head

[drowsy plank]

nah it's good

[serene vapor]

oh it just reduces how much mana you use

truly a moment

[median scaffold]

Yes, it is, but I won't say anything about it

Mana reduction is pretty rare in vanilla iirc

[serene vapor]

Make a suggestion about it if you so desire

[lethal heath]

I do not, no one would use it and it would be a waste of time cause damage is so much better

[median scaffold]

That's just sad at this point...

[drowsy plank]

skill issue smh

mana reduction is absolutely useful

[glass arch]

as a hardcore mage main yeah

mana reduction is huge

[lethal heath]

I agree

[ripe owl]

I am not malding I am not malding I am not malding I am not malding I am not malding

[dapper apex]

Mald

[ripe owl]

[median scaffold]

[small timber]

I think the suggestion have 1 huge issue

golem dont have an inferno attack it dont exist and it cant hurt you

[ripe owl]

Smartass

[dapper apex]

Who is golem

[small timber]

you forgot about the strongest enemy in the game prenerf? the one that deal like 400 damage per hit on master mode

this guy

[dapper apex]

Ohhhhh right

Forgot about those guys

I think I saw one only once

[ripe owl]

You guys are not making the matters better

[dapper apex]

I think your suggestion is pretty cool

[small timber]

I remember trying to suggest that

but then we instead have like, acid wood bookcase or something

[ripe owl]

Great

[small timber]

besides golem, aquatic scourge still have that attack that is invisible right?

#1042197406776827914 message
this is the attack I am referring to, but yeah looking at wiki looks like it should be changed?

[distant gyro]

erm actually golem uses projectiles coming from the diabolist who drops the inferno fork

(im ngl i dont mind it being gone as an alternative either)

[drowsy plank]

honestly could go in #1052323733961977947 considering it is a consistency thing but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wide river]

I wonder where these fishing suggestions are coming from

[golden sonnet]

Hmmm, maybe I guess?

[drowsy plank]

up 2 u

[golden sonnet]

If it counts as an oversight then a report is much faster at getting to devs than a suggestion, just unsure if it would count

Could ping shade I guess

[sleek turret]

in these cases just do the bug report and the sugg and everyone wins

https://tenor.com/view/money-smell-sus-gif-23801020

[olive saddle]

Hope this is a good sugg. I didn't even know this was a thing until checking the wiki

[hallow chasm]

not sure if its been posted or not, but when fishing up sulphurous crates is there a reason that the items in the chests (which are unlocked post skeletron) are locket behind beating slime god / WoF?

[crude geode]

Encourage players to actually go into the abyss instead of just fishing

[golden sonnet]

yes, it's an intentional thing to incentivise not skipping exploring the new areas

what cursed said yeah, I brought up the same thing a while back as I was also confused by it

[hallow chasm]

that makes a lot more sense, ty

[wide river]

Oh right
@inland saddle Sorry if you're aware of this already but the Suggestion Bot is down currently

[inland saddle]

One moment

[grave zinc]

@spark ravine - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Update the Yateveo Bloom's flail attack]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@proven needle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Allow Calamity foods and Drunk Princess Potions to be placed on Plates]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@serene vapor - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove the ability to lose Amidias’s Blessing from sulphuric poisoning]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[inland saddle]

All set

[wide river]

[median scaffold]

Waiting...

[spark ravine]

Neat

[median scaffold]

Suggestion: making aura sentry OOA armor for rogue

[grave zinc]

@serene vapor - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add Putrid Scent’s damage bonus to the Arcane Flower]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[frail fox]

Mage finally playable

[ripe owl]

[sand marlin]

Oh.

Arcane Flower meta I guess

[drowsy plank]

better it be meta than it never be used at all

[sand marlin]

Well it'd be used over concoction in vanilla since concoction wouldn't be a thing but I guess it does need some more viability in cal

I think mana cloak also needs to be buffed to 12% tbh

The self damage gimmick doesn't make it deserving of lower mana cost reduction when there's a reason cuffs aren't used

[drowsy plank]

true

[small timber]

cuff crying in the dumpster

[drowsy plank]

i swear mana cuff will be usable eventually trust

[small timber]

Mana Cuff (full power)

3 Defense

+2 life regen
Increases mana regeneration rate
Increase pickup range for mana stars
Restore mana when damaged
Increases maximum mana by 20

ya I think it is probably usable, probably better than mana flower upgrade until Arcane Flower even

[median scaffold]

Bruh?

A nice suggestion, I just have another problems

[coral carbon]

Regarding the OD suggestion, my opinion is that I didn't know it was a thing until I checked the wiki, and I didn't even know the heaving sound was a thing until someone was talking about it here

I guess theres not much to discuss on it, its pretty cut and dry, but its a good point

[spring wasp]

WHY

IS

MY

SUGGERSTON

NOT

GET

ING ADDED

[buoyant idol]

@spring wasp Please no trolling

You’re also impersonating another user

[spring wasp]

no

[wide river]

Are you sure?
There are plenty of users named "Pusheen" if that's what you're talking about

[spring wasp]

i did not

[buoyant idol]

Oh, my bad on that one. Guess that’s a common name then.

[golden sonnet]

yeah, pusheen is not a unique name

[odd geyser]

that's not pusheen that's pushing

[spring wasp]

are

ai gented suggetons allowed

[coral carbon]

no

[spring wasp]

oh man

[worldly sparrow]

nah its just the wind

[wide river]

Hi wind

[worldly sparrow]

i saw what you deleted

[spring wasp]

me

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-voting message tbh old Momentum Capacitor could be brought back if made not exclusive to rogue

(And it the boost wasnt dogshit nor made boomerangs unusable)

[errant cradle]

This is fair but

There's already a Brimstone Crags Update planned after the Sunken Sea Update

[golden sonnet]

we already have post moon lord azafure enemies, their name is ravager

[errant cradle]

So I'd imagine suggestions like these would either get locked or rejected

[sand marlin]

It'd be straight up locked yeah

[quiet kettle]

so theres gonna be new enemies?

[errant cradle]

We don't know

But suggestions like this may intersect with plans already put in place

So its generally better to avoid making them

[quiet kettle]

okay

because i was also gonna put my brimstone bull idea

as like an enemy

in order to get the mount

[errant cradle]

Suggestions to add new content like that aren;t allowed, so that wouldn't have made it into voting to begin with

I'm leaving the reaction on your suggestion for now if you;d like to change it to something else
Your reasoning isn't very strong, and there's also everything that was initially said about it

[quiet kettle]

did i already suggest an astrum aureus mount?

[drowsy plank]

you should really be focusing less on the what and more on the why

also aureus already drops a mount

suspicious jelly bean

[quiet kettle]

suspicious jelly bean is just another slime mount, so i thought id give it more variety

[median scaffold]

Well, why it should be added?

[quiet kettle]

i mean i cant say i added it because it would be cool

[median scaffold]

A pretty good reason
Sunken sea update should be delayed

[drowsy plank]

lmfao

what exactly would this mount do?

[median scaffold]

Most likely be another slime mount function wise?

[quiet kettle]

no

it would be faster, actually have legs, and it would have a special ability where if you double tap down, the mount would charge downwards and deliver a shockwave across about 20 blocks in total

[drowsy plank]

so
it's a fast slime mount with gravistar sabaton's effect

[quiet kettle]

not really

it wouldnt look like a slime

but yeah

[drowsy plank]

not talking about the look

[quiet kettle]

it would combine both the mount and sabaton

[drowsy plank]

the look doesnt really affect the functionality

that's just an instagrade that devalues two already existing items

[fresh idol]

hiiii

what's happening

[drowsy plank]

lmao hi aza?

just addressing an SiS basically

[quiet kettle]

what does SiS mean

[drowsy plank]

specific item suggestion

[quiet kettle]

oh

[fresh idol]

i like randomly apparating into random channels

going to wiki-discussion now cya

[drowsy plank]

what i try to do with these is distill the specific part out of them and address what the actual core problem they're trying to address is

the main issue here is that this doesnt really seem to be addressing anything. you just want a really strong mount to drop from aureus cause... reasons?? aureus already has drops that do these things and i feel like combining them would make a movement option that is way too strong, not to mention there's like. no logical basis to the implementation. i cant think of a good reason of why this should be added

[quiet kettle]

it doesnt really have to be strong

[drowsy plank]

okay well the functionality you outlined would be

[quiet kettle]

id rather have the shockwave knock grounded enemies into the air

and the speed should be at least 50-60 mph

[drowsy plank]

okay ur doing it again

dont outline specifics

[quiet kettle]

oh

[drowsy plank]

what exactly is the item trying to accomplish

[quiet kettle]

being able to help with crowds like events

[drowsy plank]

there are plenty of piercing weapons that do that perfectly well, and again, sabaton has an explosion on ground impact too

this just feels a bit repetitive

[quiet kettle]

but there has to be a specific height you have to be at in order to get good damage/explosion radius

[drowsy plank]

im sorry i just dont get it
i dont exactly feel like cal is dying for good options to deal with events rn; we have plenty. and as for everything else it's just stuff other items are already doing better. plus they are more balanced because they are separate so there's an actual tradeoff for these effects

[quiet kettle]

this is difficult

[drowsy plank]

i feel like this is bc you came up with an item instead of a problem and are now trying to retroactively justify it's existence

this channel is about finding and addressing problems in cal; if you cant find a problem this is solving, it might be better to just go back to the drawing board.

[quiet kettle]

i just wish there was an ideas channel

[drowsy plank]

why? the devs would just ignore it lmao

[quiet kettle]

idk it would just be nice for people to show their creativity

[undone cedar]

show your creativity by making a mod

[quiet kettle]

idk how

[golden sonnet]

the calamity art server has channels to share writing and art and stuff

maybe that would be a good fit?

[undone cedar]

learn

[quiet kettle]

that doesnt help

[median scaffold]

This suggestion is just... uh, not really a "suggestion", but an idea

Ideas are good sometimes, but that's not what devs whats from us

[quiet kettle]

i dont know where to start for modding

[drowsy plank]

probably ExampleMod or the tmod tutorials

[quiet kettle]

how do i get examplemod

[drowsy plank]

i think it just comes bundled with tmod, in general it's good to just look at the github for tmod

[median scaffold]

There should be plentiful of example mods out there and videos-tutorials too

[sleek turret]

get cal source (for learning purposes)

[median scaffold]

(Totally)

[sleek turret]

Definitive Learning Purposes

[buoyant idol]

@modern kayak Wrong server.

[errant cradle]

^

[modern kayak]

oh theres an infernum server

can you send it to me please

[errant cradle]

Its in #other-discords

[sand marlin]

It has one anyway

[drowsy plank]

im just going to delete that one

completely wrong use

not salvageable at all

[serene vapor]

probably already been suggested but I don’t see it as a recent thing

[drowsy plank]

isnt uelibloom just fucking dying

[serene vapor]

huh

they’re getting rid of uelibloom?

[drowsy plank]

i think so

[serene vapor]

oh

well

[serene vapor]

removing or replacing?

[drowsy plank]

replacing moreso

[golden sonnet]

To quote Cei, it is getting reworked to the point of "is gonna be an effective replacement"

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[quiet kettle]

eh?

[golden sonnet]

it will become a new material that creates some kind of profaned set

[wide river]

It's kinda like what happened with Astrageldon
Removed, and effectively replaced with something similar (but not identical)

[serene vapor]

suggestion deleted, had no idea uelibloom was getting axed

[crude geode]

Is there any plans for redoing the acquisition of life fruit upgrades in cal currently

Cuz with some of the newer pre generated areas (Draedon labs, special jungle/dungeon area) it would be nice to have the life upgrades somehow relate to those areas instead of just being crafted

[grim tusk]

there kinda was but now they are in a weird spot due to the 22 incident

[errant wind]

How is my suggestion

Did it got to devs

[spiral wraith]

yes sure

[novel belfry]

fuck

[median scaffold]

Uh... Sorry for the ping, but what's the incident?

[grim tusk]

Dec 2nd 2022, the dev team split with 22 devs leaving

[ripe owl]

21*

[spiral wraith]

its better with 22

fits the picture better ykwim?

[median scaffold]

What a calamity...

[novel belfry]

i wonder how much the lore rework that came after was effected by 22

[grim tusk]

a dev then left a bit later so still 22

[grim tusk]

it was gonna be rewritten regardless but it pretty much was affected as the old lore writter was among the 22

[bright crag]

^

The three musketeers main lorewriters are Cei, Rebecca, and myself
Cei and Rebecca became devs after 22, I was promoted to dev (from tester) when 22 happened

So yeah, the lore rewrite, as it currently is, is a direct consequence of 22

[ripe owl]

Gaslight, girlboss and stip

[bright crag]

Yeah, because I'm the opposite of gatekeep lol

I'm not sure what the old lorewriters had in store for the lore, but it seemed like they wanted either a gradual shift to updated lore, or to decanonize everything and work on a rewrite to be published much, much later

[lucid marsh]

As much as I don't like the shitty behavior that led to the 22 leaving, I have to admit the lore is far better as a result

There's kind of no telling if the mod itself is better or worse

[quiet kettle]

i wish i could be a dev for this place

but no amount of improving will get me in

[drowsy plank]

you could just make your own mod

[quiet kettle]

i mean, i was hired in the shade mod

but i still dont know how to make my own

its not like i have the time

[drowsy plank]

i have no idea what "the shade mod" is

[grim tusk]

(not affiliated with me, I have no clue either)

[quiet kettle]

thats besides the point

[tender crater]

Okay so, I don't know if this is just a "me" thing or if others would agree with it, but do any of you feel like it would make sense for polterplasm to turn into ectoplasm if you throw it into the shimmer?

Asking here in advance to make sure I'm not suggesting anything stupid

[crude geode]

seems harmless

[median scaffold]

Yeah, pretty much harmless

[olive saddle]

100% safe and 100% a genuinely good suggestion. I can definitely see the tradeoff you gotta do and I think itd be a great addition. It would make some sense; polter and ecto shit kinda go together

[tender crater]

The idea came from how throwing ores into shimmer usually downgrades them, so maybe the same logic could apply to plasm

[royal tapir]

Cool idea

[tender crater]

neat, i'll write it right away then

[coral carbon]

What is that 22?

[tender crater]

i accidentally pressed enter without holding shift, hopefully i was able to fix shit in time

[sleek turret]

I personally don't like the idea of having 2 oinments for 1 world (since you only need one generally) but I like the idea of combining these general "favorite this item to prevent x from spawning" items

[dapper apex]

#suggestions-posting message

I think devs are working on turning all anti-spawning items into consumables? At least I remember Dia was working on UI and items and shared it in calart

[sleek turret]

If it's gonna be like that it's awesome

Does it include vanilla stuff though?

You know, Encumbering Stone, Guide for whatever Peaceful Living or smth (zoologist + driad toggle combo) etc

[sleek turret]

huh

Nice

[dapper apex]

Looks like yea

[sleek turret]

Yeah the bunny and the sunflower seems to indicate those toggles

Encumbering Stone and the dash toggle item seems to be missing though

[ripe owl]

These sprites have such Fargo Souls vibes to, I simply cannot

[royal tapir]

Dia made some sprites for Fargo’s Souls

[ripe owl]

Fair

[dapper apex]

Dia sprites my beloved

[high nest]

Oh, if its on the table ill just scrap the suggestion i guess

[proper granite]

do the drunk princess' spirits inherit the same +5 fishing power effect that being drunk off ale has?

its one of those weird unexplained terraria mechanics that could use a tweak in calamity alongside toilets giving +5 fishing power

[median scaffold]

I forgot ale does something for fishing

[proper granite]

yeah drinking booze and bringing your toilet to the fishing spot both give +5 fishing power each

i think i'd rather have any chair give the fishing power bonus though, it would make a bit more sense

[wide river]

Being on the toilet lets you take a dump, making you slightly lighter to react to things faster

[proper granite]

with nycros or fargos mutant mod youre constantly shitting yourself on the toilet because of the unlimited well fed buff

[wide river]

Terrarian had some really bad Taco Bell

[proper granite]

im almost tempted to suggest adding scat balls as a rogue weapon to utilize the fact poop is in the game

[novel belfry]

the fact that poop is in the game

truly the red of all time

[coral carbon]

red when he adds the most fucking horrible feature to the game (he is praised by the entire community for being lmao xd)
but yeah I mean i always forget about the other fishing bonus stuff

didnt even know ale gave anything

[novel belfry]

red when he adds the most horrible feature to the game but still also adds something everyone wants in exchange

[grave zinc]

@golden sonnet - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove or Rework Enhanced Nano Rounds]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@buoyant idol - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove Enhanced Nano Round]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[golden sonnet]

Sick!

[hollow idol]

this stupid thing has been in the mod for over 6 years and has less than 100 mentions in this server (20 of those are from wiki bot)

we finally remembered to kill it

[wide river]

Calamity subreddit summoning hundreds of random Reddit users to call the Calamity dev team incompetent because of this change (they have never used this item)

On a more serious note
Direct bullet upgrades are wacky

[buoyant idol]

Wow, I completely forgot they still existed.

[drowsy plank]

finally!

[wide river]

Moon Lord defeat theme is from Infernum ain't it

[buoyant idol]

It is.

[drowsy plank]

yeah it is

but there ARE the intermissions on the normal cal ost

[rugged belfry]

I like that idea because some of the songs are long or happening during stressful moments and you don't get to fully experience DM DOKURO and the other composers' amazing soundtracks.

[olive saddle]

"I really liked this item too, such a shame" my brother in christ you never fucking used it

I can could the number of times I've used enhanced nano rounds outside of cheat sheet on an amputee

[sleek turret]

me when the game is silly :333333

[wide river]

True

[coral carbon]

I used to know a dude in another discord server who literally acted exactly like this
He would post screenshots of the changelogs and talk about how Fabsol hates fun or whatever

[sleek turret]

fabsol balloon popping "fun" gif

[olive saddle]

I used to have this. Especially with the meteor armor + space gun thing. Though now I prefer cal balancing over base game balancing I know fab doesn't hate fun anymore

[golden sonnet]

my favorite is when people complain about balancing, like wow killing the boss in 22 was seconds is totally intentional and fun gameplay

[sleek turret]

killing the boss in 22 seconds is def unbalanced but it's fun to pull off

[olive saddle]

Guys funny red blade killing eye in two swipes is totally fair and balanced

[olive saddle]

You probably could with pure and unadultered bullshit but that's also unadultered bullshit

[sleek turret]

you do that with unadultered bullshit (anything powerful the game gives at that stage) and pure unadultered bullshit (summoner)

[umbral gazelle]

am i allowed to repost my suggestion?

[frail fox]

This thing’s existence was so funny because it’s on the same tier so why not just, buff/change nano rounds?

[golden sonnet]

yeah, I mentioned that in my suggestion

[coral carbon]

tbf doing that was like the least bad thing that guy did

[wide river]

"Noooo but Murasama easter egg makes the game better!!1!11!1 "

[olive saddle]

If i had to take a guestimate:

Remnant of old cal; they couldn't modify vanilla items so they made an alternative which received little care and attention as they could actually modify nano rounds shortly after and completely forgot about it

[coral carbon]

objectively good change and seeing people cry about it gives me life
tbh i bet that guy complained about that when it was removed, i wasnt around tho, sadge

[rugged belfry]

I could be wrong, but I believe you are. As long as you're not being obnoxious about it, and as long as you're not intentionally reposting a flawed suggestion.

(Do also note that there's a 2 suggestion per day limit, and a repost would count towards that.)

[umbral gazelle]

okir

[olive saddle]

I think that one was really high up and didn't get sent due to bot bullshit, so it's totally fair

[frosty trellis]

Okay so a slight correction: It is not given to a random player, it is given to the player with the higgest aggro value

[wide river]

Yeah it was in the top 20% of its batch but then the bot just stopped sending suggestions for a bit

[rugged belfry]

Or if one was fine but didn't get enough votes to get pushed, so you're reposting it to show a new audience.

[umbral gazelle]

h

[olive saddle]

Draedon being aggravated sounds funnier than it should be

[coral carbon]

"You wish to obtain bitches" yada yada

[umbral gazelle]

but still i cant see other player aggro soooo ill mark it as random

also theres many factor that affect aggro so it is rather quite inconsistent

mhm

[bright crag]

@thorn socket Which theme plays after Moon Lord's defeat? Do you mean the Terraria credits?

[thorn socket]

i honestly dont remember

but its like a calming piano track

might just be an infernum thing

but i really like it either way

[bright crag]

That's not from base Calamity, it's from VCMM

So there isn't really a precedent for such thing

[thorn socket]

fair

[coral carbon]

yeah same as the sweet song when you beat wall of flesh

[bright crag]

Though the suggestion is still valid, afaik

You just have to acknowledge that there isn't really any precedent to such thing in Calamity, but addon mods have done it with decent success

[thorn socket]

will edit suggestion

done

[lucid marsh]

Small correction:
DoG is pretty far from all powerful, but he'd like you to think he basically is

[thorn socket]

compared to a literal goddess (providence), hes pretty strong, but otherwise thats correct

[lucid marsh]

Gods in calamity aren't like what people think of as gods in real life

They're like Undertale's monster/human soul fusion thing

Except instead of needing 7 to be a real god, you just have to have a really powerful special combination

[sand marlin]

This isn't true

There's barely any aggro factors in the game in fact

Invis pot, vortex stealth, rogue stealth, flesh knuckles and some melee armor

I'm not gonna make the assumption that you should always know but if you took a quick look at your friends' loadouts you would know who has more aggro pretty easily

[tender crater]

You have to remember that providence is in a weakened state when we fight her

Her full potential probably surpassed DoG power-wise

[north oracle]

That's old lore, she's at full power now

[tender crater]

Oh right, the lore rewrite

Then she's kind of a fraud now lol

Either that or the title of "god" is being given like candy

[north oracle]

what
She was one of the most powerful gods

Slime God is a god

[tender crater]

Okay then the title of god isn't all that impressive

I just always assumed slime god wasn't a literal god but moreso was just a fancy way of referring to him as the zenith of slimekind

[dapper apex]

God is a specific term in cal universe

With specific definition

[tender crater]

Huh, i see

[dapper apex]

God is a person who absorbed auric soul of a dragon

Auric souls had domains that they got from the world soul when it shattered, like light, life, death, gluttony, flame.

When a person absorbs auric soul, it merges with their own, forming something new. So that's why gods domains are different (dragon of gluttony -> god of slime, dragon of flame -> goddess of ashes (Providence), dragon of death -> god of sacrifices (ravager before he was reanimated with necromancy); but there are exceptions and some gods do have the same domain as their dragons), and they don't have auric souls themselves

[tender crater]

I see, i should probably do a double reading on the current lore then, I'm probably out of date

[dapper apex]

Astrum Deus is not a true God because it didn't absorb auric soul, but it is worshipped as a god

[serene vapor]

yeah in the current lore he’s kinda just… there

just vibing

[dapper apex]

He was infected

[umbral gazelle]

only if they are playing melee or rogue

or if i play it

[sand marlin]

Wdym

Do you mean you only look if they or you are playing those?

Anyone can wear knuckles or use invis pots if they wanna manage aggro
I agree with the sugg's idea either way though

Oh also putrid scent and upgrades

[umbral gazelle]

yes that

[umbral gazelle]

its the only way to estimste their current aggro without reqesting them for a screenshot

[sand marlin]

Stat meter shows aggro as well

You can also show your loadout in chat

[sand marlin]

@thorn dock last I recall suggesting resprites based on quality is not allowed

[distant gyro]

also like

[sand marlin]

I think a previous version of that failed byeah, nice to see it got improved

[north oracle]

[sand marlin]

Either way the sugg is still pretty much not right

[north oracle]

Yeah, not only are these suggestions not allowed there's an accepted resprite anyway

[thorn dock]

Oh thats awesome

[median scaffold]

Looks a little bit too big, but looks awesome either way

[dense ravine]

huh

[dapper apex]

it will be resprited reworked and renamed

the 3 rs

[dense ravine]

please dont mention that

[dapper apex]

also yea

[quiet kettle]

Okay then

I still think Arsenal Excavator would be a better name overall, considering the armor set name

[dapper apex]

i think it will be called Deconstructors Mk I, II, and III (because it will be 3 different entities for each progression point)

[quiet kettle]

Awwwwww

Then if there's a pet of it, can it be named that

[dense ravine]

i dont think the devs will add a pet just cuz someone asked nicely

[dapper apex]

tbf i imagine that it will have master mode pet variant, just like vanilla minibosses have mm pets

it would be pretty cool if all 3 stages had their own pets, and at the end you can combine them, so all 3 worms fly around you

[dense ravine]

worm

they should make it so you can combine all worm pets into one

and have a bunch

deus reference

[dapper apex]

all worm pets combine into 1 amalgamation

the calamity™️

[dense ravine]

calamiworm

[quiet kettle]

Devourer of Calamity

And when you fight Calamitas while the pet is equipped, she questions what it is and why you have it

[median scaffold]

[novel belfry]

speaking of calamitas fight

why doesn't she have a similar first time monologue to draedon?

[coral carbon]

because she wants to kill you

[novel belfry]

it just would fit one of the (current) final bosses

she just wants to kill you?

[coral carbon]

shes afraid of you becoming someone else like Yharim

[novel belfry]

alright then

Summon SCal for the first time.
SCal says "Fuck you."
You die.

[golden sonnet]

she is getting an entire dialogue rewrite

[spark ravine]

Projectile ID oversight, I would imagine. Deus resists the electrosphere launcher, which has the exact same projectile ID as the pulse dragon's electrospheres, so he resists those as well. More of an oversight than anything, also the pulse dragon is getting reworked in the future anyways.

@serene vapor

[misty lichen]

this is correct

additionally most worms have a generic pierce resist system to lingering piercing projectiles

[spark ravine]

Also why the downpour behaves like the reworked sandstream scepter, even if it makes no thematic sense for it to do so

[serene vapor]

Yeah I wondered about that

[serene vapor]

oh pulse dragon is getting a rework?

Well I guess there’s no reason for the suggestion of a rework is planned

[spark ravine]

I believe triangle mentioned it in spoiler talk a while ago, so ye

#calamity-update-talk message
Yep

[grave zinc]

@odd cradle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Generate Sunken Sea closer to the actual surface in Don't Dig Up worlds]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@olive saddle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add more multiplayer based items like Affliction]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@winter moon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Delay the Devourer of Gods’ transition into phase two so he leaves the portal on the actual drop of Universal Collapse instead of the 3 note pickup]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[winter moon]

nice

[odd cradle]

Gasp! I'm so excited!!

[olive saddle]

i would not be surprised if its a no. pretty broad suggestion yet it has kind of a high bar for entry.

i guess there is a want for this kind of stuff though

[odd geyser]

pusheen really made the suggestion #suggestions-posting message

[worldly sparrow]

its my inner bug tester
auric ore has the silliest interactions with everything, had to try it out with golf man

[odd geyser]

if it bounces off at mach 2 and the terrarian can react to it, you know what that means

[worldly sparrow]

mach 2 is the least of my concerns when it comes to auric ore and speed

[odd geyser]

[hollow shell]

holy shit

finally, a GOOD suggestion

[novel belfry]

(i still have no clue where this sticker originates from)

[crude geode]

Touhou

It might be an edit but I’m pretty sure it’s straight from one of the manga

[olive saddle]

I think golf balls are a projectile so idk how itd work. If that's true then in theory we could get a golf ball sdmg

[royal tapir]

#suggestions-posting message REAL

[inland saddle]

@thorn socket Hey, I'm the developer for the Calamity Interludes Mod
After a very short internal discussion, I'm going to add your suggestion to my mod instead and lock it here

[grave zinc]

@thorn socket - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[(If DM Dokuro is okay with it): Play Scourge of the Universe (Eulogy for the Ego) after Devourer of Gods is killed, similar to how some addons have themes played upon the defeat of major gating bosses]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[novel belfry]

hang on what?

oh

[thorn socket]

Looks like I have a new mod ro add to my regular modlist

Thank you

[tight cloud]

YAY
I WANTED TO PUT THE ALCOHOLS FOR MY BUILD
THEY DIDN"T LET ME

[drowsy plank]

it didnt pass

it's just in dev voting now

they could still reject it
prolly wont but also like

[novel belfry]

hopefully it does pass

[tight cloud]

yes yes yes yes please please
also does "Storms Before the Catastrophes" intefere with calamity vanilla music's "The Memory of a Cruel World", which both play after moonlord

[drowsy plank]

this is also entirely dependant on sprite submissions lmao

[novel belfry]

well

time to get my ass off and learn how to sprite ig

[tight cloud]

they probably only reject if: 1. nospirte 2. no time 3. to hard to implement

[wide river]

The fate of 90% of aesthetic/building suggestions
Spriting hell

[inland saddle]

I'm honestly not sure, I've never played with cal vanilla music

I think it does though

[tight cloud]

hmmmm
maybe add a config option?

[drowsy plank]

well uh
tbf it arguably is all three of those

it's a lot of sprites so it's just a lot of manual labor for sprite artists when they could be doing like

[tight cloud]

NOOOO
I WANT MY SHRINE OF INTOXICATION

[drowsy plank]

idk tiles for the sunken sea overhaul

or one of the other three biome updates

[tight cloud]

understandable

[drowsy plank]

or boss works

[tight cloud]

but i don't spirte

i am terrible at spriting

[drowsy plank]

there's so much stuff cal still needs to do it's very funny

yeah i mean idk maybe if there was some kind of way to suggest sprites which could then be pushed to the calamity art channel where artists could make submissions or something-

[tight cloud]

you are an moderator
maybe if the admins& mods discuss abou t that?

[drowsy plank]

irony is a literary device

[tight cloud]

dude

wdym

[wide river]

(I'm pretty sure the thing Cog is talking about is already in the works from what I've managed to infer)
Or at least, it's something the mods and devs want to do, given this excerpt from the Suggestion Guidelines doc here

[drowsy plank]

something ive tried to get into the works

[tight cloud]

oh ic

[drowsy plank]

sadly it seems like prolly too much work to get much momentum going on it but i did try so you gotta give me that much at least

[tight cloud]

@drowsy plank also would you mind checking up on #wiki-discussion ?

there is something that i'm not reall sure about

[novel belfry]

btw if you can try having the vanilla calamity music mod on

that serenity theme playing during the lantern nights is so fucking powerful

[inland saddle]

Update has been pushed

Also fixed a bug and some sprite issues

[lucid marsh]

Auric golfball would be so fucking funny

Especially if it damaged enemies

[novel belfry]

new MrJFL video: "Defeating Supreme Calamitas in the dumbest way imaginable"

[neat linden]

this needs to be a thing, that sounds comical

[lucid marsh]

I mean. It is basically a plastic bullet, isn't it?

Larger than a bullet

And potentially just as fast

[umbral gazelle]

golf ball can be lethal

phantom forces has proved that by making a golf ball one of available ammo for can cannon

[olive saddle]

new way to summon exo mechs

[tardy geyser]

The dragon aerie is just a golf course where yharim challenges you to 18 holes

[olive saddle]

fads0ifjasd0fjiasf

TERRARIAN, LET US DUEL... in minigolf!

[serene vapor]

I have been the tiger woods to you calamity
time… the hole in one

[lucid marsh]

YES

Although an auric golf ball would have little effect on someone like yharim, who is immune to auric rejection. Therefore, it is optimal to make the club auric, to launch the ball via rejection

You'd make the handle out of mock attuned auric, to make it safe to hold, and make the wedge thingy out of raw auric, to hit the ball

[restive wharf]

What's the point of having a tiny strip of normal underground sandwiched between brimstone crag and the abyss

[drowsy plank]

huh

[restive wharf]

Oh shit nevermind

I just realized there isn't anymore

[rugged belfry]

Pusheen with the greatest suggestion I've ever seen

[stable kiln]

why do you need auric ore to affect golf balls when you can turn yourself into the golf ball

[sand marlin]

Golf ball mount when

[proper granite]

the golf ball suggestion is good but you should also have an auric golf ball that isnt affected by auric ore for the sake of detail and more interesting courses

auric gold ball = easy mode
regular gold ball = HARD MODE

[novel belfry]

hmmm

wonder what the auric repulser panels do...

[wide river]

Kind sir this is #suggestions-discussion

[novel belfry]

but pusheen golf auric

[proper granite]

its relevant, we're talking about auric repulsion suggestion

[novel belfry]

now we just have to see if golf balls are repulsed by some of those panels

[misty lichen]

EXTREMELY true sugg

this shit getting 10 votes

[proper granite]

there was actually a suggestion along the same lines about 4 months ago and it got delivered but never confirmed or denied, and it was using different reasoning so i decided it was different enough to post

[drowsy plank]

the main issue is that terraria also balances around rarity and people not getting SHPC is already bad enough, so making the biome chest drops more accessible especially when they have upgrade lines does sort of make sense

cause calamity does not balance around rarity

[misty lichen]

but zerg already exists

[proper granite]

this is true, but you can get biome keys 100% of the time using shrines which is what i was insinuating

zerg too

[drowsy plank]

ah true

shrines do exist

[misty lichen]

and rarity is occasionally balanced around too

[proper granite]

shrines always have a biome key in them and encourage exploration of the world which is a nice bonus

the previous suggestion that was about this basically said that since the shrines always offer a consistent way to get all the biome keys the bosses dropping them is redundant

[crude geode]

I would mention the shrines

[proper granite]

Calamity already takes several steps (biome shrines, zerg)
is that good enough or should i dedicate a full sentence for it?

[proper granite]

biome weapons are intended to transcend progression somewhat in order to justify the effort required to get them. The upgrade lines serve that purpose and balance out their viability range being a bit squashed so i don't think they're any more or less important than they are in the base game.

[small timber]

isnt slime ore rework frequently suggested/suggested don't (used to be)

because well, if you have the option no one will just simply throw ores onto the most basic enemy in the game

[spark ravine]

just suggestions about adding an auric slime, if I remember correctly

[misty lichen]

problem is just calamity lacking real enemy content in general

90% of enemies that aren’t in a calamity biome are nothing burgers

[ripe owl]

Still

We have Ice Claspers, Ice Turtles, Mermen, Cryons I think they're called?

There's a ton of possibilities of where to put the Cryonic Ore to

[spark ravine]

ice elementals too

[ripe owl]

True

[golden sonnet]

cryogen

[ripe owl]

[spark ravine]

remove cryonic bars, bring back frigid bars. Problem solved.

[ripe owl]

Sooo true!

[small timber]

remove natural cryonic bars obtainment methods, cryonic bars are now acquired exclusively by buying from permafrost

[ripe owl]

Let's not get too carried away with this

[wide river]

Cryonic Bars are now sent to the player's house via heat seeking missiles

[small timber]

obtained through throwing both soul of cryogen and titanium/adamantite bar in shimmer
which will definitely be not annoying at all when you have to get the soul of cryogen back

[spark ravine]

This recipe should be brought back just for this, it'll really give you a sense of accomplishment for every bar you craft

[proper granite]

putting cryonic ore as a drop for cryons makes a ton of sense and beats using a slime, definitely

cause cryons have no actual drops other than the soul of eleum they give unless youre running calval or some other addon

cryons have a direct connection with permafrost too

[spark ravine]

Jokes aside, the suggestion is good. Ore slimes are generally pretty uninteresting, at least how they are right now

[spark ravine]

old lore moment

[proper granite]

or not daedalus, permafrost

theyre made by permafrost

it makes sense for the guy who developed cryonic ore to use golems also made out of the cryonic ore he developed

[buoyant idol]

@hollow steeple Your suggestion needs reasoning.

[hollow steeple]

yea i ented by accident

was trying to go to the next line

still have no idea how to do that to be honest i just clicked space a bunch of times

[spark ravine]

shift + enter

[hollow steeple]

thank u my friend

i added more detail also

[drowsy plank]

wow that reasoning makes me want this change even less

yes please make the bosses more homogenous and remove the diversity in storm weaver's attacks id love that

the only valid point here is maybe the telegraphs are a bit shit and the projectiles are a bit weird since they're technically just vanilla

custom ones would be nice

[ripe owl]

Aren't those like snowstorms or something?

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[north oracle]

yea, idk how i feel about this
DoG's laser grids aren't known for being a good attack, being more like DoG is not a good thing

[spark ravine]

they're ice queen frost waves

[drowsy plank]

he should get his own projectiles but im cool with them being ice themed

more varying weather attacks would actually be a good thing i feel

[ripe owl]

Yeah true

[spark ravine]

storm weather weaver

[ripe owl]

Wezā ripōto

[drowsy plank]

implying there aren't multiple types of storms

[spark ravine]

got me there

Rainstorms, thunderstorms, windstorms, ice storms, hailstorms, firestorms, dust storms, and solar storms.

Any others?

[wide river]

Shitstorms

[ripe owl]

[misty lichen]

storm weaver should incinerate the player with the power of the sun true

[lucid marsh]

The golfer should upgrade his golf club to be made of auric after Yharon

Then he'd launch golf balls at enemies at mach 7, dealing 2000 damage per hit

This would be really funny

And also a practical way to make NPCs better at defending themselves

[olive saddle]

Its a faster version of the magnet sphere like a pre 1.4 broadsword

[chilly narwhal]

Idea: remove the bonebreaker.

[ripe owl]

What?

No

What?

Huh???

[median scaffold]

That's a shitty idea
Go back with a new one later

But, if cryonic bars will be added to the shimmer chain + we could transfer polterplasm into ectoplasm... No more ravager in low%?

[sleek turret]

idea: Feller of Evergreens becomes a tool and when chopping down trees you get extra fru it

[ripe owl]

It already is a tool

[sleek turret]

I want it to become tooler

[royal tapir]

Tool (the band)

[glass arch]

no unless you want to do calclone instead

[median scaffold]

Well, you need both to deal with SCal, iirc

[glass arch]

no

rav drops cores of calamity

[median scaffold]

Lemme check if it's post another boss or I didn't know about something

[median scaffold]

Well, yeah, sure, he drops cores
Not the core of calamity before Providence, tho

[ripe owl]

Well, you still need CalClone for SCal

So uuuuh

Yeah if the shimmering gets real we literally can skip Ravager (haha no, Life Alloys)

[median scaffold]

Shimmer chain in question:

[ripe owl]

Yeah, if they get Cryonic into the chain

Then maybe yeah

[median scaffold]

We still need to Moon Lord and he drops luminite, which can be shimmered to all materials for Life Alloy except Cryonic
And if we'll get polter to ectoplasm, so no mo Ravager nerds to be defeated (we need the cores for both Exos and SCal routes iirc)

[serene vapor]

#suggestions-posting message

I have some critiques

Zerg potions don’t really make key grinding any easier, and there wouldn’t be a way to get a hallowed key outside of grinding due to no shrine.

[dense ravine]

also its a lot of grind and most of the weapons you get arent that good

you are spending ages grinding just to get a weapon that you will replace immediately or not use

[gaunt needle]

then you can just not grind it, biome keys are primarily just "nice if you get them" thing

[drowsy plank]

well in calamity things like pirhana gun are part of massive upgrade lines so making them a bit easier to obtain is kinda important

[spark ravine]

all except desert tiger, ye

[gaunt needle]

the curse of upgrade lines 😔

[serene vapor]

allow biome chest weapons to shimmer into each other

[serene vapor]

I disagree with the suggestion but we’ll see what public opinion thinks

[sleek turret]

this curse has been carried over to other mods since the release of exxo avalon

[sleek turret]

Then just make the weapons good?

if you want people to get biome keys by grinding you need to make the weapons be worth it

[wide river]

Ideally the easy-to-get/use weapons should be worse than the ones that take genuine effort to obtain or use properly
This includes Biome Chest weapons

[sleek turret]

That

honestly remove guaranteed way to get biome keys via bosses and return to grinding or massively exploring biomes for a guaranteed key

Hallowed Key is an exception (but it can be worked with) because it doesn't exactly have a shrine and the only way to get it is by grinding

[wide river]

Fortunately the devs are gonna move the key drops from bosses to minibosses (or simply "stronger enemies")
Source: #suggestions-discussion message

[sleek turret]

I see

If that's it really then it's ok

[wide river]

It's at least away from bosses
So that's a win in my book

Takes more effort than clicking your mouse until you get it (now you have to move somewhere else to do that)

[sleek turret]

I like shrines more honestly

[spark ravine]

So, biome mimics, ice golem, sand elemental, and whatever the fill in for the jungle may be (moth?)

[sleek turret]

Moth

[spark ravine]

moth

[sleek turret]

Yeah probably

[spark ravine]

jungle doesn't really have a "miniboss" type enemy

[sleek turret]

plaguebringer but that's plague related and also post-golem

[spark ravine]

draconic swarmer

[serene vapor]

moth

[sleek turret]

there are Jungle Mimics but those are a meme enemy to be honest and also they only appear on remix worlds I think

[wide river]

Indeed, they're seed-specific

[serene vapor]

Isn’t pearl god a donator weapon?

[spark ravine]

no

[sleek turret]

Pearl God is a RIV normal weapon

[serene vapor]

nope

my bad

[spark ravine]

just a borderlands reference

[drowsy plank]

yeah, feels like it should be tho

but it isn't

just has a ton of gross dust spam

[sleek turret]

Dust spam my hatred and the pinacle point of 1.3 weapon visual design

[wide river]

A good few weapons feel like that don't they
Freaking Molecular Manipulator

[drowsy plank]

lmao yeah

nah i loved when flamethrowers were nothing but massive trails of dust

[sleek turret]

I dislike them now since there's cool visuals for flamethrowers

They really needed a glowup honestly

[sleek turret]

that weapon is so goofy it honestly should only be kept for sillyness and goofyness in the game

It's the gamblemaster 2K

[royal tapir]

I feel like I remember Xyk talking about this weapon

[drowsy plank]

pearl god or molecular manipulator

tbh the worst part is that like

beyond the dust pearl god's functionality is fine

it's not terribly interesting but it's definetly not bad

[royal tapir]

Pearl God

[novel belfry]

i was fine with the previous dust form of flamethrowers, but man am I glad about the new cool visuals

[sleek turret]

dust pillar

[novel belfry]

and look at this fucking calamity flamethrower

i have many words to say about calamity boss visuals, but they certainly are not slacking off with these reworked weapon visuals holy shit

[sleek turret]

The visuals are pretty indeed

It doesn't feel very 'flamy' honestly it feels like it could be from another weapon like a staff or smth

[novel belfry]

i think thats the point