#suggestions-discussion

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royal tapir
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Sorry

fervent orbit
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shush

wintry gale
drowsy plank
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didnt i already make this suggestion and get it passed? or am i forgetting

royal tapir
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I mean either way, what this suggestion is asking for has been implemented, and evil island dying is 100% in devplans.png

wintry gale
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hmmm
looks like my wish wasnt so selfish as i thought it was
just because i didnt want to fight hivemind before eow in my crimson world

drowsy plank
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okay so just gonna flag it ig since it is already implemented šŸ˜‡

wintry gale
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Guess i cheated in for nothing then

royal tapir
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Not yet

wintry gale
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Oh

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I assume that both evil chest will coexist in dungeon once island gets removed

glass arch
bright crag
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Dryad selling the Seeds at any time (in a Graveyard) has been implemented but not released
Evil Island deletion hasn't been implemented yet, because we plan on replacing it with something else

regal willow
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ok the one about starting at crag is cool
of course "cool" isn't the determined factor so, eh

novel belfry
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at least its better than a gfb suggestion whose reason is just meme

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my only issue is that it wouldnt be under the upside-down abyss/sulphur sea

regal willow
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ah shit
that is true, fuck

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what a shame

novel belfry
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but eh, center brimstone crags would really sell the idea of GFB being the stupid difficult seed, with emphasis on "stupid"

primal cairn
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I don’t like making brimstone crags the center tbh I like it being a safe hell biome

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It’d also make fighting brimstone elemental a pain if ppl have set up houses and stuff there

south bolt
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It's supposed to suck by design

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It SHOULD be a pain in ass to fight the brimstone elemental

primal cairn
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?????

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Mentally deranged

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I haven’t played gfb zenith calamity but I really enjoyed my gfb vanilla playthrough

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It’s not supposed to be easy but it’s not supposed to be shitty and intentionally unfun either that’s just kinda bad

drowsy plank
primal cairn
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What’s the point in the seed at all if it’s meant to be unplayable tbh

novel belfry
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the suggestion did propose that the crags should be the "safest area", so...

golden sonnet
primal cairn
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It’s good for like shitty terraria YouTubers and not much else

small timber
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Gfb is the "stop trying to minmax difficulty setting" difficulty

novel belfry
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as a person who had the unfortunate pleasure to go through the whole thing with a class specific* playthrough, i can assure you that its still a legitmately interesting mode

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but its also a stupid difficult mode, with emphasis on "stupid"

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if that tells you off, then its probably not for you

small timber
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You likely have to cheese or outright outgear most of the bosses yes

novel belfry
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fortunately enough, calamity GFB pretty much encourages this sorta thing

small timber
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Or play in multiplayer and realise the mod is easy because you just cant die if you dodge semi nicely

novel belfry
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by giving the player ample opportunity to outgear the bosses

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planetoids have spikes and cobalt/palladium from the get-go, allowing you to get the Metal Monstrosity quickly and Cobalt items too as soon as you get a molten pick/reaver shark

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and EoW drops a Light Disc, which can be shimmered into... Hallowed Bars

small timber
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If you play gfb with a character named Samuel Rodrigues your murasama base damage is locked at 10 damage and all gfb alternative boss drops are disabled

novel belfry
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Interesting

golden sonnet
small timber
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No it is not real, but someone can make it happen

buoyant idol
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The Sam easter egg was removed

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(Also the Murasama is pretty mid design wise, should be remade into a more Omniblade style weapon)

small timber
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Murasama is an omniblade style weapon

buoyant idol
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Terragrim styled, omniblade is quite different

small timber
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Uniqueness of the weapon or interesting design is not everything

Usability is also a large part of it

We already have executioner for the super short range, cant change attack direction TM sword in post yharon

golden sonnet
buoyant idol
small timber
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Wait not executioner, I forgot what does the postDOG TM called

buoyant idol
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The Enforcer

small timber
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Yeah that one

drowsy plank
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ive literally never had this issue and also how would that help your problem at all

wide river
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Bot down?

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Latest suggestion in voting has the lock reaction but nothing's come up here about it...

drowsy plank
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also yeah i did notice that

worthy parrot
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since right now if both dodge directions are pressed then it just uses your current velocity to determine the direction

novel belfry
wide river
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I know what it means, but normally:

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When the reaction happens, a bot message comes up here telling you that. I don't know about you, but I haven't seen that message

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The suggestion in voting also lacks the normal light blue outline that it has when that reaction it placed

stable kiln
stable kiln
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just stop holding it and dash the other way

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there is 0 reason to keep holding a button of a direction you dont wanna go in

wintry gale
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forgets the button pressed

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(this happened to me alot)

worthy parrot
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ideally i'd release A and start holding down D on the same frame but that's not how it usually goes

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so there's like a few frames as im switching directions where im holding down both, and if i attempt to dodge during that period then i end up dodging the opposite direction i intend to

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it's not something that's constantly happening the entire game or anything, but it does happen once or twice per boss attempt and it can really screw over the attempt

drowsy plank
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i want to flag this but im not sure if it's really breaking a rule

north oracle
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that was my instinct too

drowsy plank
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like this is objectively just a fucking horrible idea celestial shell was scal viable a couple updates back so this is just wrong but i dont feel like there is an explict reason to flag this beyond "it has really bad reasoning" but like

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that's what voting is for, ig

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it's like just on that edge of almost having no reasoning at all beyond "it's bad eventually" (which it really isnt) and "it doesn't have an upgrade" which is like.

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a nothing reason

north oracle
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It’s not an objectively terrible idea, just a complete and utter balance nightmare and not really necessary

tidal epoch
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:v

I'm not saying its necesary, its just that I saw that it is untouched

ಠಿ⁠_⁠ಠಿ

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So I sugested it

drowsy plank
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i mean if you'd need to nerf cshell to make room for its upgrade then i dont really see a point and considering cshell is still close in power to egaunt (i forget did its melee speed die yet? i think it did so it still just has solid damage stats at least) the last thing it needs is a more powerful form

tidal epoch
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I mean, it has some potential for being a mobility one or adding stuff that its not damage or regen

north oracle
drowsy plank
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okay that's a plus at least

north oracle
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It’s now a slightly better destroyer emblem for melee and worse than destroyer for everything else

drowsy plank
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lol
also why is it slightly better on melee still?

north oracle
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The night buffs only affect melee

drowsy plank
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oh it has melee crit

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that's dumb

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lmao

tidal epoch
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I remember the night buffs affected summoner

drowsy plank
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they do not

tidal epoch
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At least on vanilla

drowsy plank
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the melee speed is dead

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so

tardy geyser
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I think it always gives minion knockback?

tidal epoch
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Yeah, it does

drowsy plank
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that's at all times yeah

tidal epoch
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I think...

lavish condor
drowsy plank
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because minion knockback is such a strong perk HDfailure

tardy geyser
north oracle
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So tru

tardy geyser
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byeah not every accessory needs an upgrade

drowsy plank
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so yeah i mean i guess there could be room for it but like
why tho
you could just make something actually cool and original instead of being stuck with the world's jankiest combo accessory

north oracle
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I think the big issue is that it just needs reasoning for why it should get an upgrade
It’s fine finishing where it does

drowsy plank
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also true

tidal epoch
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I mean, Lycans jump at you, so it can become a dash accesory with buffs instead of a dodge

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And there is the moon and sun stones, is there a buff related to those objects?

drowsy plank
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what

lavish condor
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attacks inflict holy flames and nightwither at their corresponding times is all I can think of

tidal epoch
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I mean, you asked how you can make upgrades

drowsy plank
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slimes jump at you too we should slap a dash on royal gelatin clueless

tidal epoch
lavish condor
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werewolves are fighter ai

drowsy plank
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that is not what we asked we asked why

tidal epoch
lavish condor
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Cog is asking if there's more reasoning for adding an upgrade

drowsy plank
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okay i dont watch a lot of werewolf movies so maybe you're right but i object to putting a dash on celesital shell from a moral standpoint, and that still doesn't answer the question of why this thing needs an upgrade

lavish condor
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becoming useless after a point doesn't really work because a lot of accessories do that

buoyant idol
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Read through, there’s plentiful amounts of multiclass post moon lord

drowsy plank
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and it isnt even true because dest emblem, and henceforth cshell (if it really is just a better melee dest emblem) is entirely endgame viable

tardy geyser
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Isnt cal trying to move away from big accessory crafting trees? like cshell is already the combo of 4

drowsy plank
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also true!

tidal epoch
# drowsy plank that is not what we asked we asked *why*

I mean, dash accesories have 2 variants

Shield: Mandatory and gives inmunities

Belt: Dodge and damage items/projectiles

It can be interesting/useful to have an offensive dash that makes you stronger but its shorter than the belts

buoyant idol
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I’d ā— it for false and no reasoning

drowsy plank
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that's not rule breaking

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like i said it isn't breaking the rules it's just really bad

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voting would sort it out

tidal epoch
drowsy plank
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that's
that's not a reason cshell should get an upgrade you're just creating a problem for it to solve (and one which doesn't even exist because currently bash dashes outclass belts so badly it's barely even funny [also there are multiple types of shield dashes like bonk, bash, etc.])

north oracle
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Bonk, bash, and ā€œget hit bitchā€

drowsy plank
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LOL

tidal epoch
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I mean, a dash that does not give you inmunity or bash is pretty much a nice exchange in my opinion

No dodge but better stats/just celestial shell stats with extras

drowsy plank
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calamity already has a default dash like

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also you're still focusing too much on celestial shell

tidal epoch
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You mean the ultra short and realistic like

drowsy plank
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if you want a third type of dash accessory that should be the suggestion, not to make celestial shell one

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the point of a suggestion is to find a problem and come up with a solution to that problem

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you're just finding something cool you want to do and trying to come up with a problem to justify why calamity should add it

tidal epoch
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I was suggesting a upgrade cuz it was untouched

The idea of the dash were just my point on how you can make it into something worthy to choose, there are more ways, not only dashes

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My bad

drowsy plank
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that's not a problem that's just how terraria works
i still want an upgrade that puts toolbox and toolbelt into hand of creation but we don't all get what we want

tidal epoch
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Yeah, still, the sugestion is not a must be tho :)

It is just that I saw it like that, and if the devs wants openings, welp, why not?

buoyant idol
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Why not opens a large hole since anything can use that

tidal epoch
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I mean, not all can?

But meh, I mean, just a sugestion, not a recomendation, lets ignore me

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Then

novel belfry
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i like a celestial shell upgrade, but i can't exactly think up of any reason that isn't "Why does its line end far before the Endgame"

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and trying that for the Absorber did get a lot of stars from the community, but the devs weren't as receptive to it (Read: rejected)

drowsy plank
# tidal epoch Yeah, still, the sugestion is not a must be tho :) It is just that I saw it lik...

the devs dont want openings, the point of this channel is for people to report actual gameplay issues with calamity and help the devs identify and solve them; something not having an upgrade isn't a problem it's just a fact of powercreep in the game

i mean just look at the suggestion rules doc and i felt like that was obvious

like say, idk exodium is really hard to get right now or something so i suggest that moon lord drops exodium alongside luminite or something. that's a problem (exodium is hard to get) and i provide a solution (moon lord can drop it), but overall the main focus should be on the problem

novel belfry
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mind you, exodium is actually super duper easy to get, but cog's point still stands

drowsy plank
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erm yeah but what if the exodium meteorites don't spawn in clueless (this is a bug and not a good basis for reasoning)

night jolt
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Yeah I was about to ask if they removed the meteors or something

novel belfry
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item suggestions are pretty difficult to come up with, mainly because you have to be generally vague about them

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you cant try to be too specific

buoyant idol
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Sadly, this includes anti grav hook that works on enemies

tidal epoch
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I mean, we moved too far from the sugestion
The thing I want to say is just an idea they can use randomly

I was not saying the shell should become a dash especifically, but say that it can become viable to use it if you add an extra that does not affects stats and all of that, like a debuff to enemies or just an extra thing like a dash or inmunity

drowsy plank
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yeah they dont want that

night jolt
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Wait when did a dash on the Celestial Shell ever get brought up?

drowsy plank
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again we're still ignoring that cshell is entirely viable

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he used it as an example of something the upgrade could do

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but this doesnt explain why it needs an upgrade

tidal epoch
buoyant idol
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Profaned theming could be used for it, merge with blazing core

tidal epoch
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Sorry

drowsy plank
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you don't need to apologise, the point im trying to make is that this just isn't what we're looking for

night jolt
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You don't need to be sorry, suggestions are hard and good suggestions are even harder

drowsy plank
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is that not made clear in the rules? because we just did a big rewrite to try and avoid this kind of confusion again

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if it isn't clear id like to know what we could change to make that more obvious

night jolt
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It takes experience to know what makes a suggestion good, and this is just a little bit of experience

drowsy plank
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also true

buoyant idol
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Idk how my first 2 suggestions got 180 and 210 respectively now that I think of it

night jolt
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I haven't gotten to endgame in a while, is the Void Scarf still lame compared to the Aegis?

north oracle
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Yes

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It’s more viable now that Elysian guard is gone

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But in general you just want the ram, or counter scarf for the short cool-down dodge on SCal

ashen warren
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add nuclear warheads

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supereme calamitis is too hard

drowsy plank
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thanks man

north oracle
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So true

drowsy plank
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also wait we already have those HDfailure

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tfw mini nuke I real

ashen warren
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u have nuclear?

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omg

drowsy plank
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that's a vanilla thing dude lmao

ashen warren
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oh

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ok i need to update game

north oracle
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We need a new post DoG rocket that’s just Nuke 1

drowsy plank
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LOL

buoyant idol
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Legalize Nuclear Bombs

ashen warren
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ya

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wait nvm

drowsy plank
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look im all for more rocket ammos but i know the hell that making them is

ashen warren
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sorry

errant wren
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why are we suddenly talking about nukes

north oracle
drowsy plank
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cause some dude mentioned nukes

ashen warren
errant wren
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i stopped looking for 5 seconds

ashen warren
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i need quick and easy solution

drowsy plank
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that's just fryzahh's chicken cannon rework

north oracle
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TRUE

ashen warren
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ok what if u add

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anti matter

buoyant idol
ashen warren
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so anti matter and regular matter

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combine

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to make explosion

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like

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anti dirt

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or anti supreme calamitis

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i summon regular sc and anti sc

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thye combine and they both die

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i win

errant wren
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what

drowsy plank
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you should try this really cool tool called cheat sheet butcher tool CalSmug

north oracle
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No wait, he’s got a point

ashen warren
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pair annihilation

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or something idk physics

drowsy plank
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i know this is just an elaborate shitpost but anti-matter rockets would be really fucking cool HDMood

marble moat
north oracle
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That is true

drowsy plank
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too bad adding new rockets sucks ass bc u need to make new rocket types for every explosive weapon

ashen warren
drowsy plank
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truly a terraria moment

ashen warren
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why dont we just

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put anti matter

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in my PC

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so everything in terraria is anti matter

marble moat
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ain't they just damage values and explosion radii

drowsy plank
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NAH BRUH

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NEW PROJECTILES FOR EACH

errant wren
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oh fr?

ashen warren
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y

drowsy plank
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this is why cele mk2 doesnt work with some types of rocket

marble moat
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that's terrible

ashen warren
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ik

ashen warren
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it doesnt work with that

drowsy plank
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incredibly

ashen warren
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and its so fucking annoying

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because i drained out

errant wren
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wait so

ashen warren
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the abyss

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and i cant fight

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the scourge thing

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because theres no fucking water

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im so stupid

errant wren
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you have to make projectiles, for every rocket launcher individually?

drowsy plank
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just use scorpio instead that one still works with wet rockets

north oracle
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I feel like if you drain the abyss that’s your own problem

ashen warren
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i was using

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fargo mod

errant wren
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WHY

ashen warren
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city buster

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to make arena

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idk it destroy water :(

drowsy plank
errant wren
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understandable

ashen warren
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calamity developer should NOT nerf sand dollar

drowsy plank
ashen warren
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calamity developer should LEAVE sand dollar alone

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because calamity pre hardmore is a BREEZE with sand dollar

errant wren
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i can't believe that's actually the reason why

worldly sparrow
drowsy plank
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im pretty sure sand dollar already got nerfed and there is a very real question on if it will even exist still with the sunken sea rework (there are too many repetitive sunken sea weapons)

worldly sparrow
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ok cog is gonna break the news

drowsy plank
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oh wait right

ashen warren
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its nerfed

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WAIT

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WAITTTTTT

drowsy plank
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bro is still on those old ass updates

worldly sparrow
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yeah

drowsy plank
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lmfao

ashen warren
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WAITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

errant wren
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kill the sunken sea weapons i hate them

north oracle
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It’s been nerfed for a while

ashen warren
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FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

worldly sparrow
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its been nerfed for like a month now

ashen warren
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IM GOING TO CRYYYYYYYY

worldly sparrow
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maybe 2

ashen warren
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😭

ashen warren
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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WHYYYY

drowsy plank
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god forbid we nerf a weapon which entirely invalidates the game clueless

ashen warren
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THIS GAME SUCKS ASS

ashen warren
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HORRIBLE

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0/10

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NEVER INSTALLING

errant wren
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aren't we off topic here?

drowsy plank
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skill issue

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a little

glass arch
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calamity players when one singular item gets nerfed

ashen warren
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true

drowsy plank
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but i allow it for the joke

worldly sparrow
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cal players when balance boohoo

ashen warren
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literally

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cal players when they cant oneshot SC

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unfair :(

north oracle
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Traitorous biofusillade my beloved

errant wren
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i forget about half of the weapons this mod adds

ashen warren
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cal players when the difficult game they play becomes difficult

glass arch
north oracle
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Ofc

ashen warren
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ok serious question will more sub worlds be added

buoyant idol
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When death mode kills you 😢

ashen warren
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those r pretty cool

drowsy plank
worldly sparrow
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but honestly i love how they're gonna keep a free skip to all of hardmode unnerfed purely because the ammo is never worth getting

glass arch
ashen warren
errant wren
buoyant idol
drowsy plank
ashen warren
glass arch
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theres gonna be at least 2 subworlds though

ashen warren
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litttt

glass arch
errant wren
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oh that one

ashen warren
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infernums fun

small timber
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You know, if celestial shell is unchanged in calamity, I have this amazing idea on how to change it

Make celestial stone combined at post-golem, give neptune shell a buff (in stats) or something, then add uelibloom bar or something to Celestial Shell combination

Now you cant complain it has no upgrade because it is post-ML

errant wren
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depth crusher's alright

buoyant idol
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I know practically every weapon in this mod

errant wren
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i never get around to using it though

ashen warren
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just curious is fargos and cal worth playing

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i heard its overpowered af

drowsy plank
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dc is one of those weapons i hear people constantly forget exist

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idk fargos made a compatability mod so

worldly sparrow
drowsy plank
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it's probably not awful

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yeah

north oracle
glass arch
north oracle
errant wren
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i get too many of them sometimes

drowsy plank
buoyant idol
ashen warren
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was abyss wyrum jumpscare a intentional feature

worldly sparrow
drowsy plank
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🐌

ashen warren
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thought so

north oracle
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Excellent

ashen warren
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i shidded my pants

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when i use

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discord rod

buoyant idol
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Moar

errant wren
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i feel like i'm one of the few players that like actually takes the time to enjoy the game instead of treating calamity like a boss rush

drowsy plank
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i love how it's bladedge too instead of blade-edge railbow

north oracle
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Yeh XD

glass arch
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now whats the name of the uelibloom melee weapon

drowsy plank
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i love my bleghed rainbow

tardy geyser
buoyant idol
drowsy plank
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melee

buoyant idol
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Wait

glass arch
tardy geyser
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funni darksouls weapon

north oracle
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Verdan-

drowsy plank
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lifehunt scythe or?

glass arch
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lifehunt yes

worldly sparrow
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now whats the name of the aerialite classless weapon

drowsy plank
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do you mean aetheticus or

worldly sparrow
drowsy plank
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lol

ashen warren
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i dont recognize 99% of the weapons mentioned here

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i think im stupid

drowsy plank
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no a lot of them just suck

worldly sparrow
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ok scoria spell book

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go

drowsy plank
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from a design standpoint idk about viability

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ah fuck that's like fucking steam eruption or some shit

glass arch
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now
what is the ranged weapon sold by the archmage after all 3 frost moon minibosses have been defeated

worldly sparrow
ashen warren
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pulse bow

worldly sparrow
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not steam eruption

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not pulse bow

ashen warren
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no im just saying

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pulse bow

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i like

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it do bouncy

drowsy plank
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oh my god wait i know the bow one
fucking
I JUST WAS USING IT IN GFB
it's not abs zero that's the sword it's like winter's fury or something dumb

buoyant idol
worldly sparrow
ashen warren
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wait im stupid nvm

ashen warren
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chlorophyte arrows

glass arch
buoyant idol
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Ranged, my reading comprehension is bad

drowsy plank
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||eternal blizzard|| (i had to look it up)

buoyant idol
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That's too similar to the removed cryo bow

drowsy plank
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what was cryo's bow

glass arch
ashen warren
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has anyone fought la ruga boss at all?

worldly sparrow
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now whats the post-cryo shortsword

ashen warren
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i cant find anything about it on youtube

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only the theme music

glass arch
buoyant idol
buoyant idol
ashen warren
drowsy plank
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i dont think eblizz and effluv bow are similar at all

ashen warren
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looks horrifying tho

worldly sparrow
glass arch
drowsy plank
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FUCK

drowsy plank
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i hate you

worldly sparrow
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ok what was the only ranged dart weapon cal ever had added

buoyant idol
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Let's remove it

drowsy plank
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i hope you melt into a fucking puddle you piece of garbage

ashen warren
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dart weapons r so good

drowsy plank
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charged dart blaster

ashen warren
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in vanilla

glass arch
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charged dart blaster

drowsy plank
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that one is easy

buoyant idol
worldly sparrow
#

goo job

ashen warren
#

how come there isnt more in calamity

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they r cracked in vanilla

drowsy plank
#

goo job more like goobow XD

glass arch
ashen warren
#

:(

worldly sparrow
#

and the removed vile shard upgrade

#

what is that one

ashen warren
#

cal developers killing off a weapon because only 0.0000000001% of the community used it

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(it was meaningless)

glass arch
drowsy plank
#

hell burst

worldly sparrow
worldly sparrow
ashen warren
#

vanilla weapon upgrades r cool they should keep them in

buoyant idol
#

Name of the Muramasa shortsword

ashen warren
#

i like most vanilla weapons

drowsy plank
#

and also it used none of the flamelash parts it was just a firey version of crystal vile

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it was very silly and bad

glass arch
#

yeah it was just

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cvs pharmacy but arson

ashen warren
#

unless im playing rouge for the most part im using vanilla weapons until post moon lord

worldly sparrow
#

oh yeah, replaced post-aureus star cannon upgrade

#

what that

drowsy plank
#

for the love of god please make shifting sands a flamelash upgrade i beg

buoyant idol
drowsy plank
#

do u mean star cannon ex

ashen warren
#

do cal devs actually check this channel

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or is it just hopes and dreams

drowsy plank
#

sometimes

ashen warren
#

that die

#

oh ok

worldly sparrow
glass arch
drowsy plank
#

i still confused super star shooter and star cannon ex

drowsy plank
#

star cannon ex just feels more natural at this point

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i associate the name with the vanilla item to the point where i still call it that

ashen warren
#

does getfixed boi seed work with normal calamity

drowsy plank
#

yes

glass arch
#

yes

#

it is hell dont do it

ashen warren
#

too bad

#

:)

#

after my exams

#

imma play get fixed boi

ashen warren
glass arch
#

no

ashen warren
#

:( ok

drowsy plank
#

isnt there a patch or is that just for gfb and master

#

i mean ftw

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whatever

#

too many seeds

glass arch
#

just ftw and master

drowsy plank
#

and acryonyms

#

very silly

glass arch
#

inf completely breaks on gfb

drowsy plank
#

lul

ashen warren
#

:(

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i like infernum

drowsy plank
#

so why not play it the intended way

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instead of trying to shove it into gfb

ashen warren
#

already played it :(

drowsy plank
#

lmfao

#

try another class or something idk

ashen warren
#

ok

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i will do

#

mage

errant wren
#

guys i need suggestions on how to sue an unknown person for crashing into my family's car and fleeing the scene

ashen warren
#

bomb

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their house

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(in terraria)

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(but u dont have to do it in terraria im not suggesting anything but you can do whatever you want but its an idea that you can persue again not suggesting anything violent but it exists in the grand scheme of everything)

lucid marsh
#

don't ask on discord

#

dummy

errant wren
#

ah yes my mistake

#

(but in all seriousness i am going to lose it)

bright crag
livid coral
#

šŸ™‚

bright crag
#

(Yes, a few devs show here regularly)

royal tapir
#

Calamity development

ashen warren
ashen warren
south bolt
#

Expert

#

Or heros mod

ornate kestrel
#

Yeah

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Just play with god mode

#

Fixes all skill issues

#

Just don't tell anyone

#

Or else we will all decide you have a really bad skill issue

ornate kestrel
#

You really did them dirty

ashen warren
ashen warren
bright crag
#

You don't need to :p

#

It's alright that you dislike the boss

ripe owl
#

Just be constructive and rational

buoyant idol
#

Be destructive and irrational like me

#

It's gotten me two suggestions into the mod

ashen warren
#

bruh now i feel really bad wtf

ripe owl
ashen warren
#

aight no more shitposting for me

ripe owl
#

Yeah do not do that

small timber
#

just be mindless, got it

Suggestion: Move Rampart of Deity to Earlier in Progression

Deific Amulet just feels so bad and there are bosses like DOG that are very hard, and Rampart of Deity is too late into the progression to be useful. I think making Rampart of Deity available at like Post-Providence will make it much more useful against projectile heavy boss like Yharon and DOG, and of course the hardest boss in the game: Polterghast

#

but yeah, Celestial Shell definitely don't need an upgrade if you look at the stats (it practically is still basically a post-Golem Badge of Bravery but better)

so just tier shift it instead
clueless

wide river
#

Dark Sun Ring would technically be a Celestial Shell upgrade (however indirect)... if it had any of the stats that made Celestial Shell actually useful

drowsy plank
#

didnt we already get monoliths passed but are just waiting on sprites or something

small timber
#

yes, pretty recently iirc

lucid marsh
#

it would make more sense for dark sun ring to be a celestial shell upgrade

novel belfry
#

yeah that would be a lot better honestly

regal willow
#

rampart of deity to earlier?
didn't they just move it post yharon because people said it is too OP or sth

north oracle
#

Not just because people said it was too op
Because it was too op

glass arch
#

yeah rampart is

#

stupidly good

regal willow
#

and... it still is, right?
or did they nerf it so that xpc said it should be post provi viable

north oracle
#

No lol, he was joking

regal willow
#

I am laughing

north oracle
#

the hardest boss in the game: polterghast

regal willow
#

wdym
it is the hardest boss in the game

stable kiln
#

celestial shell never gets useless ngl

#

it's EXTREMELY good from when you get it until you beat polterghast, and then it falls off because the debuffs it helps with are not relevant anymore and the stats are overshadowed

#

but I don't think it needs an upgrade

small timber
#

what it need is to add Uelibloom bar to Celestial Shell combination cost

#

and make Celestial Stone post-Golem -> Pre-Providence, upgrade into Celestial Shell post-Providence
in this way you can buff the (non-offensive) part of Werewolf form and also give Merfolk form stats/other unique property without the accessory going batshit insane

tardy geyser
#

The yharmy's return

ripe owl
ashen warren
#

i suggest adding an uber accessory that combines every single possible accessory from both vanilla and calamity

#

(very balanced)

drowsy plank
#

verboten one

novel belfry
#

Soul of Eternity

stray warren
#

@elder cedar suggestions about future content are prohibited

bright crag
#

^

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Besides, Yharim's army is mostly disbanded

worldly sparrow
#

not a good day for the yharmy

wintry gale
#

unless someone decide to make an addon where you travel back in time and fight against it

buoyant idol
#

Does that one get outright deleted?

bright crag
#

The suggestion?

#

Suggestions with ā— get deleted automatically after 24 hours with the reaction

umbral gazelle
#

wait, if you somehow block every single moderator and every developer does that mean you technically cant get the ā— since its reaction made by person?

golden sonnet
#

Blocking people doesn't stop them from seeing your messages

umbral gazelle
#

but they cant react to it iirc

buoyant idol
#

Gets deleted moment

drowsy plank
#

^

#

i WILL just delete your suggestion if you do that

fervent orbit
#

that sounds hilarious let me do that

golden sonnet
#

Noobs final stand

stray warren
royal tapir
#

Of course noob would say that

fervent orbit
royal tapir
#

Boutta make fun of you for Reimu catgirl pfp again

fervent orbit
#

ok and?

royal tapir
#

Feel bad or something

swift frigate
#

that'd be insane if that actually worked somehow (worked as in suggestion would get passed)

eternal escarp
#

if that happens the sugg will be instantly deleted

#

like, its not some kryptonite HDfailure

swift frigate
#

yeah sounds about right

fervent orbit
#

whatttttt??? mods have message delete permissions???? noooooooo

eternal escarp
#

youre right, the sugg passes due to their incredible wit and cleverness

#

i was lying!

royal tapir
#

Mods can we delete these messages

fervent orbit
#

because you are weak

royal tapir
#

I'm not a mod

eternal escarp
#

caught in 4k

bright crag
#

@native merlin You need to provide better reasoning than that. Why should a station like that be added? What would it accomplish? That's the type of questions you should aim to answer with your suggestion

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Also note that we're making Tombstones craftable next update

buoyant idol
#

Me on my way to change my suggestion last minute to add among us with proper reasoning.

wide river
native merlin
#

I changed it

bright crag
#

We're already adding tombstone crafting....

bright crag
#

And in Hardcore, NPCs drop Tombstones when they die

native merlin
#

k

drowsy plank
#

you could probably much more easily just shift the whole line tbh

#

spectre staff already has its own upgrade anyway

#

just do like Magnetic Meltdown post-ML, Voltaic Climax is now post-Sentinels instead, and Void Vortex is still post-Yharon

wide river
drowsy plank
#

like why tf is voltaic made with darksun anyway

modern rapids
wide river
#

Those aren't the problem

#

Magnetic Meltdown -> Voltaic Climax -> Void Vortex line is the problem

wide river
#

My personal solution to the whole thing would be to make Magnetic Meltdown post-Polterghast to serve as a better counterpart to the other 3 Dungeon magic weapon upgrades (all of their upgrades are post-Polterghast except for the Magnet Sphere's upgrade for some reason...), remove Voltaic Climax, and keep Void Vortex the same

worldly sparrow
#

me agree

drowsy plank
#

Magnetic Meltdown - Post-Moon Lord
Alula Australis
Magnet Sphere
5 Luminite Bar
5 Galactica Singularities

Voltaic Climax - Post-Polterghast
Magnetic Meltdown
2 Ruinous Souls
3 Armored Shells

Void Vortex - Post-Yharon
Voltaic Climax
5 Auric Bars
5 Darksun Fragments

#

i have fixed the weapon line

wide river
#

Alula Australis...?

drowsy plank
#

aureus staff

wide river
#

I know that, but why would it be part of this?

drowsy plank
#

replaces spectre staff but still gives it a staff part

drowsy plank
#

plus it makes a funny shape and MM makes a funny diamond so that's where that comes from since MM doesn't really have any spectre staff aspects beyond the staff part

drowsy plank
#

i also think a nerfed MM would still go brazy on Provi so i think it would be a fun change as well

drowsy plank
# wide river I know that, but why would it be part of this?

oh also a-doy
the thematic reason is aurora borealis is the magnetosphere interacting with solar wind so it actually has a connection to the whole magnet thing since the weapon fires aurora beams
also aurora australis is also a thing and exists for the same reasons i think

#

which makes way more sense than fuckin

#

ghosts

worldly sparrow
#

anyways imma suggest to retier barracuda gun brb

wide river
#

Spectre Staff should definitely be taken out of the line in any case

#

The line inherits absolutely nothing from it and it already has an upgrade through Phantasmal Fury

#

It's also time for a more controversial one
Resuggesting something from 5 months ago with a rewrite to better fit my standards

modern rapids
#

maybe add jungle key to the vernal pass then

#

actually maybe not
you're basically guaranteed to find vernal pass since (i think) it always spawns above the temple

#

while that's not the case for other shrines

wide river
#

That would still leave the issue of the Hallow Key, which would either be an inconsistency, or require worldgen to be added for the Hallow besides block conversion (which iirc is a bit finicky due to the position not being guaranteed)

fervent orbit
#

iasejdgv9posejdhbo9gja9so0ebgh9oeasjh

#

i have no idea how to write

wide river
#

Hence the keysmashing

fervent orbit
#

SHUHS

golden sonnet
#

Nothing new there

royal tapir
#

That was noobish

eternal escarp
#

based biome key sugg

grave zincBOT
#

@dim snow - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Buff the skyfringe pickaxe's power]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

golden sonnet
#

Hell yeah

wide river
#

(Ok I'm gonna be away from Discord for a couple hours so I'll respond to any feedback I may get when I get back)

fervent orbit
#

smh ench ding dong ditching

dim snow
wide river
drowsy plank
#

smh conflacting sickness debuffs and potion and mana sickness

#

something should really be done about that in general

buoyant idol
#

Disease debuffs

fervent orbit
#

but poison isnt a disease

golden sonnet
#

you could just say "sickness type debuffs"

#

but debuff types aren't exactly explained in game so idk

#

doesn't starlight river have like a definition function? something like that could possibly be done for debuff types?

grave zincBOT
#

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Profaned Guardians Drop Unholy Essense]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

fervent orbit
#

šŸ’„

drowsy plank
#

lol nice

dim snow
#

fire

grave zincBOT
#

@modern rapids - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make night Providence drop more Divine Geodes]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

modern rapids
#

nice

dim snow
#

poggers?

#

goated week

dreamy trellis
#

Title is kind of shit but uhhhh, I think this works

wide river
#

I'd have to do a little bit of testing but from what I can see, there's nothing particularly wrong about this

royal tapir
#

Yharim’s Insignia got reworked and will no longer be used in Elemental Gauntlet
Elemental Gauntlet will also inflict the new Elemental Mix debuff instead of Hellfire

dreamy trellis
#

ah

#

I see

#

I suppose I missed that one in the changelogs

royal tapir
#

I don’t think the latter is directly in the changelogs actually

#

So not your fault

wide river
#

The rework was there but yeah the Elemental Mix part isn't directly stated

dreamy trellis
#

I do still think simplifying the Recipe would be worth it

#

since it seems just a little bit odd to use luminite post-DoG

#

I could see Cosmilite + galactica Singularities being a bit of a better simplification if Galactica Singularties are the 'Elemental' part

royal tapir
#

Galactica Singulairities and Luminite Bars were added to all 5 of the post-DoG class accessories in 1.5, I was not a dev back then so I don’t know the exact reason why
The theming of items with ā€œElementalā€ in their name has admittedly been up in the air for a while now

dreamy trellis
#

huh

#

it might be time to take a look at them and figure out whats up with them then

#

because Luminite + Galactica Singularities feels so Pre-DoG

wide river
dreamy trellis
#

I remember talking about leaning into the Post-DoG aspect and renaming it the Cosmic Gauntlet like, 10 seconds before I made the suggestion

#

So thats good to note

#

will agree with the elemental weapon set needing a look through

#

I think they lack some kind of identity other than 'oh its multi-colored and has ALL da fragments' or whatever

wide river
#

Y'know actually
Sorry to change the topic back but I just noticed
Every single part of the Elemental Gauntlet line (starting from Mechanical Glove) has differently organized tooltips XD

dreamy trellis
#

hate this

#

pls fix

drowsy plank
# royal tapir Yharim’s Insignia got reworked and will no longer be used in Elemental Gauntlet ...

if it's already getting a new debuff anyway, then asking for it to become a cosmic glove so it can inflict god slayer inferno seems a tad repetitive, so shouldn't this be flagged then? this also feels a bit like asking for something the team already knows is pretty boring to be reworked for the sake of it just being boring and not much else, so im unsure. like this feels like the kind of suggestion Ozz wanted to avoid getting since it isn't really helping much, but maybe im just not looking at it the right way and there's some other reason you didn't flag it yourself

royal tapir
#

If you want to flag it for conflicting plans and reworking for just being boring, then go ahead

fervent orbit
#

its called šŸ”’

drowsy plank
#

aight someone remind me to lock when it gets into voting then ig

fervent orbit
#

i will

golden sonnet
#

excuse to harass Cog spotted

glass arch
fervent orbit
dapper apex
#

Yeah yeah whateverCalPat

golden sonnet
fervent orbit
#

AI(EOGJV(OPAWJGKUBV(OAWJUOSBHGJ(OAWSZEBHJG(O)AWJSZEO)BGH(JKAO)PWSJBHGKO)ASWEZBHOGASWZO(PBGHAJK)OPW_{BHGJ

fervent orbit
#

i need to be warned first

buoyant idol
#

Anyways who saw the new Ultrakill teaser?

fervent orbit
#

no

buoyant idol
#

Yes

#

I am the ultimate annoyance, relegated only to this channel.

frail mantle
#

no

crystal cedar
#

holy shit noob jumpscare

wide river
#

Ramen jumpscare

golden sonnet
#

Ench jumpscare

odd geyser
#

Raesh jumpscare

buoyant idol
#

Primalzius Jumpscare

worldly sparrow
#

freddy jumpscare

glass arch
#

pusheen jumpscare

golden sonnet
#

moderator warning jumpscare if we do not stop

regal willow
drowsy plank
#

does

#

would this just fall into the same caveats as the. almost identical eglove sugg

short warren
#

?

drowsy plank
#

the suggestion literally like 3 messages up

short warren
#

I don’t know what you’re referring to

drowsy plank
#

we were talking about how it lacked reasoning, but furthermore, that it conflicts with the fact they just gave it elemental mix, but im not sure

short warren
#

Ahh

#

Yeah I see what you mean by near identical sugg now

#

I still think it’s a valid suggestion, both of these

#

The theming just doesn’t fit the placement, neither distortion themed nor unique

small timber
#

can always just put a šŸ”’ if devs feel like it

grave zincBOT
#

@wide river - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove Biome Key drops from bosses and increase their standard drop rates to compensate]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

drowsy plank
#

oh?

fervent orbit
#

memes?

#

gonna explain orrrrr?

inner anvil
#

I'm supposed to?

#

🧐

fervent orbit
#

no its just better to leave some sort of explanation

inner anvil
#

Okay.

#

We're moving it to minibosses / uncommon (Or elite if you like that name) enemies.

fervent orbit
#

ah so like gss

torn oak
#

Now delete that explenation, so nobody can know.

inner anvil
#

This guy knows, gentlemen, this guy knows what he's saying.

novel belfry
eternal escarp
#

byeah thats nice

#

less boss focus is goated

drowsy plank
#

i guess mimics prolly get evil keys and frost mimic gets ice key, but idk what jungle enemy is gonna get jungle key. at least we have gss for desert key ig for now

wide river
#

Plaguebringer (enemy), maybe?

drowsy plank
#

oh maybe

#

awfully late compared to the rest tho

worldly sparrow
#

you supposed to open biome chests post-plant

wide river
#

Well it's that or freaking Angry Trappers so

worldly sparrow
#

what about turtles

wide river
#

Could be a Moth, now I think about it, actually...

royal tapir
#

Lemme find the plans again

#

Desert -> Sand Elemental
Frozen -> Ice Golem
Crimson -> Crimson Mimic
Corruption -> Corruption Mimic
Hallowed -> Hallowed Mimic
Jungle -> Uncommon drop from Jungle Temple mobs (this is definitely the one most subject to change)

north oracle
#

the solution is clearly to add a temple miniboss on the exact same tier as the actual boss

royal tapir
#

āŒ

north oracle
#

hey it worked for PBG

worldly sparrow
#

did it?

royal tapir
#

I'll infect YOU with the Plague.......

north oracle
eternal escarp
#

just move it to moth yeah

#

they are the rare enemy of the jungle

#

jungle mimics arent real in normal game

drowsy plank
#

moth miniboss AI when

eternal escarp
fervent orbit
#

just make them real in normal game smh

modern rapids
#

jungle -> plantera tentacle

north oracle
#

because plantera is a boss

crude geode
#

It’s trying to not be connected to bosses

#

Yeah

north oracle
#

and these are being moved away from bosses

novel belfry
#

oyeah

torpid glen
#

Add yharim

novel belfry
#

they're minibosses but still

#

plantera is the boss that makes these keys usable so

crude geode
#

eh

#

it puts more of a focus on plantera which is already unnecessary

#

plus it feels redundant at that point, why even have the jungle key if you could just say the jungle chest is unlocked after plantera's death (shut up about the astral chest)

crude geode
crude geode
#

lmao

buoyant idol
#

@hot leaf Improper Format + It already is

fervent orbit
#

ban him

north oracle
#

noob

#

chill

worldly sparrow
#

nuke him

hollow shell
#

Just gonna delete that

worldly sparrow
#

aw man

grave zincBOT
#

@dreamy trellis - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Update the Gauntlet Line]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

drowsy plank
#

remembered to do this for once

dreamy trellis
#

yay

drowsy plank
#

anyway as CIT mentioned earlier it inflicts elemental mix now so

#

sugg cannot really pass

glass arch
#

Great Lihzahrd Brick Shark

north oracle
glass arch
#

TRUE

short warren
#

And could spawn in all worlds

potent flicker
#

make vanilla yo-yos relevant in calamity

#

they all get immediately powercrept to the point where i can’t think of a single yo-yo besides the terrarian that’s actually good on tier

north oracle
#

see this is funny because terrarian is only mediocre on tier, in comparison to several of the op vanilla yoyos

marble moat
north oracle
#

Code 1, Code 2, Valkyrie, Red's throw

#

there were a couple of others, but i can't find the tests to know for sure

#

ah, artery and malaise are strong too

frail fox
#

Yelets, The Eye of Cthulhu, even damn Kraken

north oracle
#

hive five is above average too

#

there's barely any that are bad

#

and several that are very good

#

terrarian is one of the worse vanilla yoyos XD

marble moat
#

it's a shame that it's like the only one that looks cool to use

random pasture
#

Its funny because almost every vanilla yoyo is identical besides number changes

dapper apex
#

Simply make jungle mimic spawn in regular worlds and give it jungle keyclueless

stray warren
#

Simply make jungle mimic spawn in regular worlds and give it jungle keyclueless

#

Simply make jungle mimic spawn in regular worlds and give it jungle keyclueless

dapper apex
#

What happened

#

My discord just died

#

Wh

#

Mobile discord sure is an app

#

Also I'm unfunny because people already joked about jungle mimic so I'm cringe now

north oracle
#

throudon what happened

dapper apex
#

I don't know

#

My discord lagged and then closed itself

#

And sent message twice

#

For some reason

fervent orbit
#

@drowsy plank can u lock the other ele gauntlet sugg

drowsy plank
#

im unsure if that one is entirely invalid

modern rapids
#

has something about ceaseless void's contact damage been posted before

#

like it doing contact damage before its dark energies can is kinda stupid

wide river
#

Oh wait there are more

modern rapids
#

yeah basically that

wide river
fervent orbit
drowsy plank
#

hm

#

fair i guess

grave zincBOT
#

@short warren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Retheme the Elemental Gauntlet and Quiver to be Godslayer themed]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

short warren
#

Close enough šŸ‘

grave zincBOT
#

@golden sonnet - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a Visual Indicator for Providence's Holy Inferno]

It has been add to the devs' to-do list and planned for implementation!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

golden sonnet
#

hell yeah

wide river
#

Now people can rest easy and not suggest it more

royal tapir
#

Amber has been cooking (literally)

ashen warren
umbral gazelle
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this is my 2nd suggestions about rover drive i hope its ok wegud

wide river
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I realize I've posted this at a poor time considering I'm gonna be going to sleep in like 5 minutes :hdflr:
I'll post it again tomorrow morning when I can actually respond to feedback, for now I'll delete it though

eternal escarp
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@cosmic jungle youre the online mod currently

ripe owl
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So true Suggestion Bot...

cosmic jungle
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bruh

ripe owl
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Hi Omega

cosmic jungle
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@pulsar carbon I'll just warn you for that, don't post stuff like that in suggestions posting

wintry gale
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šŸ¤”

golden tulip
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im getting a deja vu

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this has already been posted has it not

wintry gale
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Whats a flavor tooltip btw

wide river
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A small bit of text in a tooltip that (generally) isn't there to describe its function

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So in the case of Solar Fragments, its flavor text is 'The fury of the universe lies within this fragment'

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Mainly flavor text serves as a minor touch on an item that usually holds no bearing in its actual use

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Sometimes it can be used to give more exposition into an item (take Cosmilite Bars' A chunk of durable and highly resilient cosmic steel)

buoyant idol
wintry gale
drowsy plank
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what

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no lavafishing is possible in preHM what dude

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oh hotline isnt

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lavaproof hook

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why is a fishing pole called fishing hook

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that's so fucking dumb

wide river
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✨ vanilla choices ✨

drowsy plank
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it's fucking goofy

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fishing is a disaster fr

wide river
drowsy plank
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TRUE

tardy geyser
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You can lava fish pre hm with the underworld bait cant you?

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yeah

wintry gale
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also
calamity's brand new angler quest rework allows you to have hotline prehm

drowsy plank
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i thought you were saying calamity made lavaproof fishing hook preHM when it always was but then i realized u meant the fishing pole

wintry gale
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i see

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cant blame anyway lmfao

dense ferry
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@wide river jeez man you didn't need to go this hard for flavor text HDfailure

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I will do that eventually, even if this doesn't pass

wide river
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Worst-case it doesn't pass, but even then it still helps other suggestions in

dense ferry
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Worst case it gets added in the game because I'm doing it

wide river
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:ah:

dense ferry
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I just have to discuss what will be it

wide river
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If it's already planned should I just remove the suggestion?
It'd just get hit with ye olde "planned for implementation" reaction anyway I assume

dense ferry
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Leave it there, I'm busy now

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And knowing myself, I will forget it

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And it's good to let other Devs know that this is going in so they can come up with their own things

crude geode
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Meld’s lore should simply be denying it is the 5th fragment

wide river
novel belfry
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Meld's defintions:

  1. (Verb) - blend, or combine
  2. (Noun) - a thing formed by merging or blending:
grim tusk
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[user that does not exist anymore] - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Display debuffs above Super Dummy]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

(i literally had this one done 4 months ago, just forgor to push it)

golden sonnet
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I'm sure [user that does not exist anymore] is very happy

grim tusk
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that sugg was OLD

wide river
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Nearing 3 years old, huh

grim tusk
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it was also literally just fucking adding one line lmao

regal willow
hollow shell
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(^ User's still here actually, bot just didn't embed them)

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holy shit it's the silksong news guy

near topaz
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ty devs

hollow shell
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šŸ‘

dapper apex
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The world is so small huh

fervent orbit
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@olive saddle ram is a type of dash which lets you gain invincibility frames when you hit an enemy during the dash

glass arch
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yes

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and the line directly above that tells you that you can do that

marble moat
fervent orbit
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fuck

grim tusk
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oh imma add it to regular dummies too (done)

fervent orbit
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šŸ’„

drowsy plank
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@turbid gull how does this make the game less wiki reliant?? now you need to go to the CALAMITY wiki to see how we changed the recipe instead of just using the default vanilla one. arguably your change produces the opposite effect of what you intend, and also hay really isn't that hard to get

grim tusk
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^

turbid gull
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Is assuming that players play with recipe browser not normal

grim tusk
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its also dirt cheap already

grim tusk
turbid gull
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true but neither of those sources explain how to get hay

drowsy plank
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i mean if you know what a scythe/sickle is..,.,.,.

grim tusk
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but still you'd go to the Vanilla wiki, see it doesnt work in Cal, then you'd have to go to the Cal wiki...

drowsy plank
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also true!

turbid gull
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ig

drowsy plank
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this is just overcomplicating something and creating a problem where there was none

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it's not like terraria tells you the axe cuts trees and the pickaxe mines stone; if you have a basic understanding of what the tool is, it's quite obvious how hay is obtained

bright crag
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(You'd also render an item useless and confuse the people that expect hay to be obtained that way)

small timber
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dummy is also not integral to game progression

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you don't need dummy to play the game

bright crag
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It's in Merchant's shop so it's definitely not that invisible of an item

golden sonnet
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Also, just by reading the item in the shop you know how to get hay

drowsy plank
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lol

golden sonnet
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If you were to say, make it crafted, you would have no idea how to get hay without looking up the recipe or the guide

drowsy plank
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the obvious solution is we should add dummy to the starter bag clueless

golden sonnet
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Which would also require either the wiki, or a different npc

errant wren
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is the mod based around higher level players in terms of game knowledge or whatever? asking for future reference

grim tusk
# errant wren is the mod based around higher level players in terms of game knowledge or whate...

No, that's a misconception from Calamity versions from way back in early 1.3 versions.
The mod is intended to be friendly to everyone although it is recommended the player first completes a vanilla playthrough (preferably on expert) first so they don't get overwhelmed when they see way too much content as well as to grasp the basics of combat, exploration, construction, management and other things you'd do in base Terraria.

golden sonnet
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I'm not a dev so I obviously can't speak on design philosophy, but as shade said, in channels such as #help-advice-read-pins the community as a whole heavily encourages completing a vanilla playthrough before doing calamity, and encourages expert, but doesn't expect you to be a pro or anything

glass arch
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yeah its fully possible to do cal without doing expert

fervent orbit
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i think the modded community of any game encourages you to complete said game first

glass arch
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i was an extremely low experience player when i started cal (never did even classic, i had only done .5x journey) and i was able to do rev

small timber
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in theory the game is balanced around beta testers who are relatively high skill

however, there had been active effort in making the mod easier to account for player who are to certain degree much less skilled than beta testers (who often are nohitters)

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so the tldr is:

if you are not super good at the game, just get the best gears available (wiki or not) and you probably will get pass everything

if you are super good at the game, you don't even have to get proper gear because the gears (even off tier) are generally powerful enough

or you know, regardless of if you are good or bad, just use full warding full defense instead of full menacing + dimensional soul artifact and omega blue armor because "damage make the game easier"

errant wren
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so, knowledge is helpful but not entirely necessary. got it

stable kiln
drowsy plank
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@slow sparrow please speak english so we may moderate properly, and don't post memes in this server. again. you have been warned.

slow sparrow
hybrid steeple
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nowhere in this server

slow sparrow
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oh no

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its so bad

buoyant idol
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It’s a moderation nightmare to deal with memes