#suggestions-discussion

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wide river
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So then this is just "increase multiplayer boss health scaling" again

cosmic karma
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vanilla does have health scaling just not 100% per player (because realistically it isnt 200% dps anyways)

grim tusk
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^

cosmic karma
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its much easier to hit a boss when the enemy is focused on you, and also unless you have the same setup, from my experience one person usually has a majority of the dps anyways

wide river
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Indeed, my experiences also lend themself to having one person dealing most of the damage
Mainly because I always invest in defense builds in multiplayer while the person I play with invests in damage but I digress

fervent orbit
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wasnt this alr passed

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iirc they just need a sprite for the monoliths themselves

wide river
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And yes it is mainly a matter of needing sprites

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Such is the fate of nigh all furniture suggestions

buoyant idol
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#sprites-needed

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We need a dev to post something there

wide river
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Now that the God Slayer Hoverboard finally got a sprite accepted, I'm sure it won't be too too long until the next thing there

drowsy plank
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@wintry gale this already passed twice, just as an FYI; there's no rules against sending it again, but i dont feel like this is going to get done any faster passing a third time ^^;

wintry gale
drowsy plank
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"for your information"

wintry gale
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can i ask for smal changes into shadowspec tier items?

fervent orbit
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uhhhh

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what kind of changess

wintry gale
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make enraged from demonshade armor a toggleable

spark ravine
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isn't it already toggleable? just don't hit the armor set bonus

fervent orbit
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that could be fine?

fervent orbit
spark ravine
drowsy plank
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it lasts for 10 seconds

fervent orbit
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you have to spam it if you want to constantly keep the buff

glass arch
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honestly just suggest to give it a cooldown like literally every other toggleable cal set bonus

fervent orbit
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the thing is

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it doesnt have a cooldown

drowsy plank
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well a cooldown would be a nerf

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yeah

fervent orbit
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and probably shouldnt need one

wintry gale
fervent orbit
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no not really

glass arch
drowsy plank
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it's amazing how it's just a slightly worse DSA but DSA is still pretty bad

fervent orbit
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not like endgame balancing exists anyway

drowsy plank
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no but that is something to consider at least a little

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i think making it a toggle makes sense

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a la vortex

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yknow?

wintry gale
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ye

fervent orbit
spark ravine
drowsy plank
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you take 10% more damage than DSA

fervent orbit
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oh u meant

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taking damage

drowsy plank
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+25% extra damage taken for +25% damage, while DSA is +25% damage for +15% increased damage taken

glass arch
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its

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+125% extra damage

drowsy plank
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oh i thought that was implying you got 25% more damage multiplicatively lmao

wintry gale
drowsy plank
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okay so it's +125% not *125%

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lol

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wow DSA really is pathetic lmao

glass arch
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yes

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its so bad im not even gonna use it for my omegamaxxed glass cannon setup

drowsy plank
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funny

wintry gale
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so uhhh
who is the demonshade set's dedicated?

drowsy plank
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also why the FUCK does demonshade have a star clock effect boohoo

glass arch
drowsy plank
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tbf it's dedicated to AstroKnight and i dont think that guy has been here for years

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yeah

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so ur prolly fine to suggest that??

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i mean none of this will matter when demonshade gets reworked anyway but w/e ¯_(ツ)_/¯

glass arch
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the melee/tm helmet will keep the enrage wont it

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at least wasnt that the plan

fervent orbit
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yea demonshade is able to be changed

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it should be pretty apparent since its going to get reworked

wintry gale
drowsy plank
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also i mean yeah i spose that is true but also it will probably get changed to be more, yknow, normal by then anyway

glass arch
wintry gale
fervent orbit
drowsy plank
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to be a bonus damage buff that lasts a duration with a cooldown like its cousins brimflame and plague reaper lol

glass arch
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yeah demonshade is gonna be one of the last sets to be reworked

wintry gale
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oh ok

drowsy plank
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oh right cause instead of it being continuous it spams it

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it honestly would prolly be easier if it just did it continuously instead of starting and stopping over and over

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but also

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getfixedboi

stark locust
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Just make him spin faster then

trail sleet
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what if there was sentinel themed armor

drowsy plank
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the sentinels of the devourer no longer exist

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storm weaver, signus, and ceaseless void are their own bosses now with only tangential relations to the distortion tying them together (hence their themes still being similar)

regal willow
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lore moment

drowsy plank
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wiki is wrong yeah, the sentinel page has needed to die for a while lol

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i dont know why i didnt kill the page myself, i suppose idk where id put the info on it right now since it does have a couple unique points, but yeah they aren't "the sentinels" anymore as in the old lore they were basically straight up slaves/extentions of the devourer himself

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yeah i should lol

fervent orbit
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once rune of kos dies, the sentinel page will have to die

drowsy plank
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frankly it could die before that

fervent orbit
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keyword: will

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literally the only thing keeping the sentinel page alive is rune of kos

drowsy plank
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should we have a duke association page bc old and fishron are both summoned by fishing? HDfailure

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just because they have similar spawning methods doesnt mean they need the page anymore tbh

fervent orbit
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cog

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its not similar

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its the same item

full mirage
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does anyone else agree that the requirement of 20 tombstones for the graveyard biome is a bit excessive? i dont mind gathering the tombstones of course but its a pain trying to find space to put all 20 tombstones when theres already stuff everywhere

drowsy plank
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nah

full mirage
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i mean, why even change it from 8 in the first place?

drowsy plank
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helps to stop spawn from becoming a graveyard in multiplayer at the start and 20 really isnt that bad

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bc people die more in calamity

full mirage
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ah, i suppose

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a slider in mod configurations would be nice though

fervent orbit
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n o

wintry gale
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like
Horrors of Distortion

drowsy plank
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no lol

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they're just guys they're not a trio anymore

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signus most especially

wide river
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Since they all have some connection to the Distortion and all

fervent orbit
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my name c:

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actually idk if it is my name

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but i am the person who uses it most iirc

novel belfry
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Horrors of the Distortion seems appropriate

drowsy plank
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what's more appropriate is not giving them a name bc they aren't a trio anymore. like i said HDfailure

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u dont call king slime, queen slime, and slime god the slime trio or something lmfao

novel belfry
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Storm Weaver - Member of the same species as the goddamn Devourer of Gods
Ceaseless Void - Eldritch portal to the Distortion that's older than in some way than the Devourer of Gods
Signus - Super duper eldritch assassin

wide river
drowsy plank
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lmao

novel belfry
drowsy plank
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i was just talking to cei and temp about deleting the page entirely lol

novel belfry
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i think they should remain for now

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since we havent gotten to the part where rune of kos dies

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yet

drowsy plank
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there is no point for the name to stick or the page to exist

glass arch
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if the page isnt outright deleted it needs a name change

wide river
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I would definitely consider the page on the chopping block, for sure

drowsy plank
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it's already being deleted so like

wide river
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It's lore inaccurate and serves little purpose

novel belfry
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but like

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its not yet

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wait, are you saying that rune of kos's death is sooner than i think it is?

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cause i assume its not dying like, next update

wide river
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Uncertain about that, but the Sentinels of the Devourer page has now been deleted, so there's not much that can be done in the way of convincing its stay

novel belfry
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oh

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its dead

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huh

grave zincBOT
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@crude geode - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Abyss Minibosses more complex]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

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@dim snow - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Buff the skyfringe pickaxe's power]

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@tough ledge - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add an astral campfire]

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crude geode
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Oh fuck I forgot I made a suggestion

grave zincBOT
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@fathom aspen - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Improve Murasama's VFX position]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
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@abstract forge - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the laboratories look less awkward]

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tough ledge
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An en masse announcement
Lmao

crude geode
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Yeah cuz the suggs got sent to dev

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Week is over and whatnot

wide river
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When I sent the message the page was deleted
Seems to be back now under a different name now so /shrug

pine star
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At least they aren’t the Sentinels anymore

worldly sparrow
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ok so ive edited one of my rejected suggs a bit and i need some thoughts

📎 sugg.txt
wide river
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Armstrong should be amstrong in honour of that one suggestion clueless

worldly sparrow
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oh god that one

bright crag
hybrid steeple
stoic flame
worldly sparrow
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i guess my sugg is invalid

stoic flame
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yah, fun idea tho

worldly sparrow
stoic flame
worldly sparrow
hybrid steeple
stoic flame
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ill see myself out

worldly sparrow
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lol

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anyways imma update it to "fit the rules" better

wide river
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<><><><><><><><><><>

worldly sparrow
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actually is it short enough to fit in a discord message

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no

drowsy plank
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if ur trying to break every rule u should remove the title so it break the other rules too
also make it 3 suggestions that are chained to each other

cold cosmos
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Sorry am I missing something here or is this just an SIS

worldly sparrow
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it already doesnt have a title

cold cosmos
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Or are those legal now?

worldly sparrow
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the title is part of the body

drowsy plank
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the joke is its supposed to violate every rule

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it's a bit

cold cosmos
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Oh I see

wide river
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Comedy

drowsy plank
worldly sparrow
cold cosmos
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So I was missing something

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I think you need to add a reverted change in there

worldly sparrow
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but also i cant find where it explicitly says in the sugg guide that you cant attach more than one sugg per message

worldly sparrow
drowsy plank
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bottom of best practices

worldly sparrow
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ah

drowsy plank
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also i meant that you should split it into three seperate suggestions that all references each other

worldly sparrow
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i see

drowsy plank
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just to really break the rule

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lol

cold cosmos
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Oh no it has reverted changes

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I didn't see that

worldly sparrow
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armstrong used the excelsus nanomachines to become strong

wide river
worldly sparrow
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and then the whole mention of an irl earth subworld

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should be the final one

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really tying into the mgr thing

cold cosmos
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It's not explicitly a rule but this is written entirely too coherently

drowsy plank
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well if i tell someone how to break the rules as a joke, then you can better understand what im hoping yall DONT do so i DONT have to do my job and yall just do it urself

drowsy plank
wide river
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Needs random grammatical errors and literally no way to comprehend the purpose clueless

cold cosmos
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There needs to be about 50 more spelling mistakes and run-on sentences

worldly sparrow
drowsy plank
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@crimson nymph difficulty isn't a good basis for a suggestion; bosses are allowed to be hard, and how hard you find them is irrelevant considering everyone has a different subjective experience with different bosses. furthermore, it sounds like you're mixing mods and something broke calamity's custom generation for the jungle temple because it makes the arena for it MUCH bigger than vanilla so you should be able to fight him quite easily. if this is the case, that's on you and also something that belongs in #1052323733961977947, not #suggestions-posting

wide river
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(The tone of the suggestion feels somewhat rant-y in my opinion, also)

drowsy plank
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true but that isn't a sin

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just dumb and unlikely to pass

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esp not once it reaches dev lmao

wide river
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Just feels like it'd be hard to convince people if you come across as overly aggressive towards something

drowsy plank
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well u see this is why ur suggestions are good and this one is not BrimSmug

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anyway i feel like this dude prolly doesnt know u can kill the head either

wide river
worldly sparrow
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honestly ill just make it so the suggestions keep getting less and less coherent

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the first one is coherent

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the second one is somewhat hard to read

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and the third sounds like it was written by a ten year old

drowsy plank
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lmaoooooo

worldly sparrow
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"You see, at the moment the current situation of the excelsus is that a post-Yharon mage weapon currently that does very well on the Desert Scourge."

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i love this line

worldly sparrow
crimson nymph
drowsy plank
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no like

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Calamity does that

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by itself

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Calamity IS a custom generation mod and the chances are you're using something that reverts its changes to the arena

crimson nymph
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nah

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i have literally no mods on

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no qol mods

drowsy plank
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hm

crimson nymph
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just

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calamity mod and mod music

drowsy plank
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i mean it IS bigger than in vanilla though, right?

crimson nymph
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yeah calamity is bigger than vanilla lol

worthy lintel
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much bigger and always a perfect shape

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still doesnt redeem golem

tardy geyser
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He means the golem room

crimson nymph
crimson nymph
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i have made no progress since day one of fighting golem

tardy geyser
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Send a screenshot?

drowsy plank
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^

crimson nymph
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i have the warned role

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so i can’t

tardy geyser
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DM it then

drowsy plank
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i think you can still send a link to the image

crimson nymph
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alright

crimson nymph
drowsy plank
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it wont embed but that's fine peeps can just click it

crimson nymph
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ill just dm cuz idk how to turn it into a link

wide river
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Something something imgur

drowsy plank
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huh

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looks like a normal golem arena to me

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sorry but i think this is really just a uh

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well i dont like using the term but this is basically just a skill issue

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i suggest looking up some death golem fights and taking some tips from their dodging styles to help yourself

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plus there are plenty of guides for gear

worldly sparrow
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so uhh yeah thoughts on my sugg? i will be posting it in sugg posting in 3

📎 sugg.txt
drowsy plank
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this is so awesome

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rivals the suggestion to make chaos elemental real

crimson nymph
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though i disagree as i have done all of the bosses up to golem without much problems

wide river
tardy geyser
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Rev+ golem is definitely harder than vanilla due to the fireballs but its doable

worldly sparrow
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so anyways how many bans from suggesting ever again would i get if i actually posted it

worthy lintel
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yes

royal tapir
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Would make combustible lemons to burn your house down

worldly sparrow
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ok so thats good to know

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when cit gives you lemons dont make lemonade

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it might combust

wide river
novel belfry
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im still annoyed that this sugg of mine (#suggestions-voting message) never got enough traction, purely because i still cannot comprehend why spasmatizm in rev+ just deals shadowflames instead of the flame debuff that actually fits his colors

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that said, its a repost but hey

grim tusk
novel belfry
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Well purple flames just look weird on a guy I’ve always associated with green flames

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Especially since like, it’s been so much his thing that his exo mech upgrade still has green flames

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One might say it’s… inconsistent

drowsy plank
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doesnt he only have purple flames in his final phase

ripe owl
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LEANTHROWER 💜💜💜💜💜

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my sincerest apologies

eternal escarp
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@tidal epoch remove the A recent post gave me an Idea part, your sugg needs to have an actual title + this is unneeded information
also, id say you probably need to expand more on your reasoning

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half your reasoning is "itd be cool" which, isnt a good reason

tidal epoch
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1- Done
2- the title is "Rework?"
3- the easoning is kind of a short heavy bleeding to intensificate the menace Spasmatism gives, because burning slowly can be unnoticed with good regen, but high short bleeding cant be unseen

This is what I mean with "Giving a higher counciousness to spasmatism attacks"

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I mean, if you have +3 regen, it can go unnoticed if you go for adrenaline as the low hits you get are compensated with the regen, but a high bleeding cant be neutralized that much and the amounts of debuffs can give an alarm

hollow shell
lucid marsh
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The flame single flame debuff is insignificant in current gameplay, and not much of a threat

bright crag
small timber
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the suggestion's reasoning still feel relatively lacking

what does this accomplish other than well, "it is cooler"

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the suggestion even explicitly give a solution to make it stay on relatively similar power level so as to not drastically impact the difficulty of the fight, so it is not really to make the fight harder either

with that the suggestion in its current state just feel lacking in reasoning

bright crag
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@tidal epoch Your suggestion is kinda low on reasoning
Why should this change be made? How does it improve the boss fight experience, or attempt to solve an issue with the current iteration?

lucid marsh
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Possible reasons:
Multicolored flames are easier to see
Multicolored flames look more dangerous
Current flames used are not very dangerous, perhaps less than they should be, this would make them more dangerous.

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Other good but invalid reasons: it's cool

small timber
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1,2 is cosmetic, especially 1 (current one doesn't really have visual issue) and 2 is subjective
3 is balance related, and I am almost certain shadowflame is just stronger than cursed flame by a large margin
4 is just it is cool

crystal girder
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anyone else feel like the dragonslayer/band of the hawk sword from berserk should be added? and maybe the armour too?

buoyant idol
crystal girder
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sad ig

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doesnt calamity reference the mursama from metal gear?

buoyant idol
crystal girder
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huh k then

fervent orbit
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just be a donor from 3 years ago

marble moat
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because like funny ultrakill gun

fervent orbit
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trying to avoid adding them

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also cracksholt and midas are obv gonna stay, theyre actually unique and not a reference for the sake of reference

marble moat
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yeah

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like berserk sword wouldnt be too cool unfortunately

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by cool i mean

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unique, positive addition to gameplay

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anyways let us railcoin with high projectile speed weapons

drowsy plank
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the next person to bring up railcoining gets obliterated by my laser beams

errant wren
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coming out of lurking for the sole purpose of bringing up railcoining (please don't hurt me)

drowsy plank
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💥

buoyant idol
solar pewter
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How do you make suggestions?

drowsy plank
wintry gale
grim tusk
fervent orbit
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so midas prime vs murasama

buoyant idol
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Murasama gets removed XD

frail mantle
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i take a bite out of the murasama

frosty trellis
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At least Murasama doesn't use the mechanics of the MGRR one

buoyant idol
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It’d be better unironically, the current is a big slow terragrim.

gaunt needle
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were more "upgradable" summon weapons (like abigail, desert tiger or stardust dragon, not sure how to name them) considered by devs? summoner really lacks those hard-hitting slow minions in late game, and they would be kinda fun to give the firecracker some more love

frosty trellis
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There is ZERO reason to give that broken mess more love

gaunt needle
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wait it actually is broken?

frosty trellis
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Completely

gaunt needle
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with which weapons?

frosty trellis
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I would have to go double check but a few

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A big later game summon that I can think of it does well with is Dragon blood Disgouger

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As it can be better than Kaleidescope with it

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Firecrackers damage is completely insane iirc

gaunt needle
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aren't unique minions not exactly good? since you need to fill up remaining slots with stuff that can take the explosions

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also

frosty trellis
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I mean we have several multi slot minions and all

gaunt needle
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is there a specific place where most balance discussions take places (other than the thread)

drowsy plank
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no

frosty trellis
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But the reasoning to "give firecracker more love" is uh
Not a good thing

gaunt needle
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i mean

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true

drowsy plank
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"arent unique minions not good" no they are who told you this

gaunt needle
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the feeling about how firecracker should work with them

drowsy plank
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cal isnt balanced around whips atm so i have no idea how they feel together but unique minions are fine rn

frosty trellis
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No the reasoning behind them being to give firecracker love is the issue

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We have a bunch of single use minions with high slot usage or stuff like Mechworm which is stardust dragon but DoG

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And they are (mostly) fine

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But firecracker is the second to last thing that needs to be buffed rn
The last thing being Kaleidescope

gaunt needle
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im sincerely sorry if firecracker is stupidly broken and the "give cracker more love" is totally invalid

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i just did the test and it seemed okay to me

frosty trellis
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There is also just
Weapons that have higher base damage and take several slots if you want to use it still because it's viable

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Like Dragon blood, Tenryu, Sirius, Mechworm, Saros, Yharons Kindle Staff, Cosmic Immateralizer, Ares Exoskeleton and Peredition before the endgame

gaunt needle
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wait i just noticed a strange thing with tenryu

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is the white dragon supposed to have much longer iframes than the black one?

north oracle
north oracle
gaunt needle
marble moat
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Chargebacking would be super cool but also not balanced in the slightest lol

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or at least, would be annoying to balance since enemy HP is so different from player hp

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I think

shadow trout
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in calamity what class is the hardest

frosty trellis
fleet flume
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I need to get some sleep so respond quick if you want to reply. I'll wait until x:55.

small timber
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isnt it will make abyss basically unexplorable during bloodmoon? because of the blood moon visual

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abyss creature are already dark in colour that you have to use light sources to see them, blood moon will basically just make it so you cosmolight blood moon off as otherwise abyss is just unexplorable

fleet flume
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It might need more work to be balanced I guess

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A visual change might come with issues

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I didn't think of that.

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Maybe the default blood moon water color wouldn't quite work in the abyss anyway.

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It's just too light.

dapper apex
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Blood ocean.....

fleet flume
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Don't expect a reply now.

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It's 12:30 and I need sleep.

lucid marsh
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I would much rather water not turn red outside the surface. It looks ugly and is distracting when you're trying to focus on something else

buoyant idol
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Inconsistency, oceans don’t turn red.

buoyant idol
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Perhaps some Adrenaline, Rage and Flight bar styles should be added since maps have styles, as do health and mana.

small timber
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why will there need to have multiple styles for them, health mana bar have style because that is vanilla vs calamity style

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adrenaline, rage, flight are exclusively calamity features

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for the time they make "alternatively adrenaline/rage/flight bar style" they might as well just improve on the current one

buoyant idol
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Fair enough

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It’d take some time to do.

grave zincBOT
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@abstract forge - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the laboratories look less awkward]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

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@fathom aspen - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Improve Murasama's VFX position]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

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@tough ledge - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add an astral campfire]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

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@dim snow - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Buff the skyfringe pickaxe's power]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

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@crude geode - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Abyss Minibosses more complex]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

north oracle
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good week

spark ravine
crude geode
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Now for the eternal wait for 🛠️

worldly sparrow
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nice batch

north oracle
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of course that's probably something already planned for 3 years time

dim snow
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idk why this always bothered me

crude geode
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3 years down the line we can say we were a part of the calamity mod

stray warren
dreamy raven
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hey

coral carbon
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Is there anything wrong with my suggestion, or is it good to go?

sand marlin
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I don't see anything wrong

dreamy raven
drowsy plank
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very weird how the transformations overwrite each other lol

golden sonnet
coral carbon
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The best of two worlds would be very simply just not remove Werewolf's nighttime stat bonuses when underwater at night

glass arch
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god NO we DO NOT NEED ROVER DRIVE SHIELD MORE ACCESSIBLE

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there is a reason reworked sponge is so good

worldly sparrow
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^^^

wide river
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Can't wait for MPG to appear out of nowhere with an essay about how this is a bad idea

worldly sparrow
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elemental blaster already has a """""planned""""" rework

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heavy quotation marks

flint notch
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Sawcon

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!!!

worldly sparrow
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yes

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ture

buoyant idol
coral carbon
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Also, the Speed Blaster got a right-click ability recently, which the Elemental Blaster lacks

modern rapids
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speed blaster is really fun

burnt beacon
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if thats actually gonna be added at some point then fair enough

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i cant remember if that sugg was accepted or not

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that was in cal art wasnt it

flint notch
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I mean dia (the person who submitted that) became a dev so…

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Byeah it was

burnt beacon
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right, well that bodes well lmao

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yeah im all for more unique ranged weapons, theyre pretty vital

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but good progress is being made on deviating it from being a hold m1 simulator

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its in a much better spot than it was

worldly sparrow
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the rework proposal in calart was indeed accepted

flint notch
regal willow
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most unique midas prime sugg

modern rapids
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would elemental saw launcher have a different recipe
since it makes absolutely no sense for it to be a paintball gun upgrade

coral carbon
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Also, unless other Elemental weapons get also resprited/reworked, that rework's look doesn't fit within the Elemental weapon set

golden sonnet
flint notch
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(Dia also made a book, but didn’t submit it before they became dev)

golden sonnet
flint notch
spark ravine
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isn't the whole "elemental" theme set to be liquidated

regal willow
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what is liquidated

modern rapids
flint notch
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TBB? Yeah it does function like the chains one ig

stray warren
novel belfry
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yes, penumbra, ora

drowsy plank
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didnt something like this already pass

bright crag
wintry gale
wide river
drowsy plank
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wait implemented?

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@kindred thicket this is already in the next update

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wait that's 2022

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why is this marked as implemented

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huh

wide river
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So either this is already ingame or the flag was wrongfully placed

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From what I can see on the wiki it seems to already be a thing

spark ravine
drowsy plank
wide river
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Peculiar
Though I expected this, somewhat

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Then why was the flag there...?
Was the functionality removed at some point, or was the flag truly placed incorrectly?

drowsy plank
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hey, since you responded to the intial implementation, what the heck happened here?

tidal epoch
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About the abyss sugestion, in my opinion it does make sense that the abyss does not change on a blood moon because the abyss is isolated from the world, and it makes sense magic does not work because the density levels of the water

drowsy plank
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how about; the ocean doesnt turn red during blood moons in vanilla and also the shader would make the abyss look like shit HDfailure

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it can just die in voting but it's a bad idea

wintry gale
tidal epoch
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Wait, the sea doesnt turn red on vanilla?

drowsy plank
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i dont think it does

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which is funny

tidal epoch
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I think it does

wintry gale
drowsy plank
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huh

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til blood moon mono doesnt change water color

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but yeah all the biomes are affected

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still it's not a great shader for the abyss

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so im fine with that not happening

distant gyro
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terraria sign data is never supposed to hold a tile that is not 2x2 tiles in size

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a lab screen is 3x2 so it counts as 1.5 signs

fervent orbit
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💥

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have you been able to find a fix so far?

distant gyro
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the extension tries to function as a second sign but it will corrupt itself

fervent orbit
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hmm

drowsy plank
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i see

distant gyro
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naturally the fix is to make the screen tile 2x2 but then is it even a screen anymore

drowsy plank
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should this be added to frequent suggestions or something then? since we get it a lot but it seems like there is a technical problem preventing it

fervent orbit
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trying to think of a way that could fix this but im not very smart so idk

distant gyro
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me neither

regal willow
fervent orbit
drowsy plank
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@spice jacinth feel like it's worth pointing out calamity has configs that let the guide respawn in literal seconds

fervent orbit
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yes, even during the night

spice jacinth
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The settings don't work for some reasons

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I tried multiplying the number and set NPCs to come on night and it has no effect even after reloading

left hawk
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Same, for me the nighttime NPC spawn setting works but NPCs spawn at the same rate no matter what the spawn multiplier is set to

drowsy plank
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sounds like a bug

golden sonnet
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mfw when this lost to like 3 things that had already passed or were already planned

wintry gale
fervent orbit
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there is a blood moon fountain

wintry gale
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Wait what

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Name?

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Oh wait im dumb

drowsy plank
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...Blood Water Fountain

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lmao

wintry gale
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Yeah

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Btw

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Any thoughts about my sugg?

drowsy plank
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good idea

fervent orbit
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iirc very much would be possible, would probably be really popular in voting

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and yea good idea

buoyant idol
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Looks good

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GFB treasure bag would be abusable with world hopping quite easily, maybe it should drop how it does in Normal Mode.

drowsy plank
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what

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read the suggestion again

fervent orbit
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provi alr does the exact same thing

golden sonnet
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and lore items

frosty trellis
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Also GFB world hopping was already something you could do lol

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Can world hop to a GFB world, murder crab and infinite money with zero effort

buoyant idol
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Nvm no point in balancing around world hopping.

golden sonnet
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yeah, balancing for world hopping is kinda just unnecessarily limiting the player. I think back on purified jam dropping only the first time per player and per world

buoyant idol
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Purified Jam was a disaster of an item

golden sonnet
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real

drowsy plank
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would've been funny if it got retiered to shadowspec lo

buoyant idol
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If it was craftable, it might've been interesting but that's something that'd make True Melee the best class.

ashen warren
frosty trellis
buoyant idol
frosty trellis
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It ain't just the BLENDER lol

buoyant idol
fervent orbit
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bh5

buoyant idol
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Wow

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How to beat SCal with only Empyrean Knives without moving

drowsy plank
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i think emp knives are actually like

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really bad rn or something

north oracle
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7:26 SCal

fervent orbit
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fun fact: they heal the same amount of vamp knives!

north oracle
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on the other hand, healing and half decent damage

fervent orbit
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range and velocity

worldly sparrow
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and damage ofc

tardy geyser
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Theyll be even worse once silva armor is melee hage

fervent orbit
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yes

wide river
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Silva armor is inheriting the Melee helmet from God Slayer armor, and God Slayer will be receiving either the Mage or Summoner helmet from Silva

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(Still tbd what helmet gets moved from Silva iirc)

fervent orbit
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thematic reasoning

wide river
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Melee fits better with Silva armor because Braelor is Silva's champion in the lore iirc

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So it's a matter of which of Mage and Summoner fits Silva less

small timber
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also vampire knife (by itself) is, in fact, stupidly good

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so it is less of a matter of "empyrean knife lifesteal = vampire knife = bad", it is a matter of "why tf is vampire knife's life steal that good"

fervent orbit
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yes its damage is on par with scourge of the corruptor iirc

tardy geyser
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Its because vamp knives dont use the lifesteal cooldown right?

frosty trellis
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No it does

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The lifesteal is just
Stupid

small timber
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it just heals a lot

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big numbers

tardy geyser
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ic

fervent orbit
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its big heals

frosty trellis
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(Also I thought emo knives lifesteal was just worse than vamp knives)

small timber
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and iirc vamp knife (and empyrean knife) is pretty much on tier viable damage, except they also lifesteal like crazy

empyrean knife at least is like a C- or D+ damage; but iirc vamp knife is C - C+ in damage

novel belfry
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I NOTICED that

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vampire knives is somehow better than every other lifesteal

frosty trellis
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Which speaks to it being completely broken more than the others being bad

novel belfry
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like, seriously, Gilded Probocis is only useful for the damage part, because its lifesteal is so dogshit in comparison

frosty trellis
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Well, I mean Reaver Lifesteal is kinda broken

novel belfry
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its like a Tsar bomba vs coughing baby situation

worldly sparrow
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monstrous knives also have pretty good healing for how early you get em

small timber
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have you seen the best "lifesteal" in the game

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from the best weapon in the entire universe

frosty trellis
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Omega Blue?

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Oh

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Lmaooooo

small timber
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omega blue is a bit different because while its lifesteal is overpowered it is supposed to compensate for the no regen downside

frosty trellis
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Fair

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The three horseman of broken Lifesteal
Vampire Knives
Omega Blue Armor
Reaver Tank

small timber
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is pearl god bad now? in terms of lifesteal
and that bloodflare flame thrower

frosty trellis
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I'm not sure

novel belfry
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but anyways i dont like the swap i think there's better ways to go about it

small timber
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such as making silva armor pre-boss because god is dead and so is its armor

novel belfry
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god is dead and so is its armor
dryad

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h

small timber
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"Changelog 52 - Moved Silva Armor to Post-Eye of Cthulhu and renamed it to "Sunflower Armor", and it is purchasable from the Dryad NPC"

novel belfry
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godslayer armor just becomes available pre-boss, but it has to be used to kill gods to get its post-DoG stats

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to make its title better

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"Changelog 53 - Moved Godslayer to Pre-Boss, its stats now change and upgrade upon killing the Hive Mind/Perforator Hive, the Slime God, Wall of Flesh, Queen Slime, Empress of Light, Ravager, Providence, and the Devourer of Gods."

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As far as im concerned, these bosses either are the remains of gods, are gods, or have absorbed the power of a god

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so theres my shitpost done

fervent orbit
worldly sparrow
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mf even forgor silva (get rid of all of the planty mush and she's dead)

fervent orbit
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also i dont think eol should count

worldly sparrow
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eol really shouldn't count

fervent orbit
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its more like she was gifted power, for something in return

novel belfry
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Though her title is lofty, she is more an emissary for the powers beyond and forces of nature.(...)

Her penchant for leeching the strength of other great beings is uniquely deplorable.

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im not actually sure what she is, could someone enlighten me with out-of-game lore knowledge?

fervent orbit
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she was given the power to channel primordial light

novel belfry
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presumably by Xeroc, i suppose, since i cant think of anyone else who could do it

fervent orbit
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primordial light itself is alive

novel belfry
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Source?

fervent orbit
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just trust me

novel belfry
sand marlin
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Honestly I find Neptune Shell too strong as a post one mech accessory that isn't even a standalone which means it's relavant for a good while

modern rapids
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how so

sand marlin
# modern rapids how so

Permanent water breathing/greatly reduced breath loss in abyss, pseudo flight inside water which is holding space to basically fly up due to the flipper effect combined with unrestricted movement, being a part of the greatly viable accessory CShell which allows you to have a great stick at the same time as an underwater accessory. This thing is more convenient than abyssal diving gear considering its circumstances and it's only after one boss in hardmode. Aquatic Medallion is not a bad alternative but does not give you flipper and instead defense, Aquatic Heart Idk that thing might be kinda busted tbh the ADR is also too strong as a hotswap

modern rapids
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(i never tried it over abyssal diving gear) i should try that

sand marlin
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I misspelled Aquatic Emblem as Medallion whoops

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Oh it seems to even slow the player

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Merfolk waterbreathing seems to stack with Gills but Emblem doesn't for one

sand marlin
dim snow
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doesn’t matter uncle ben, amidas blessing clears both

sand marlin
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Idk man nohitting is kinda hard clueless

dim snow
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true…

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reaper shark too hard..

small timber
# sand marlin Permanent water breathing/greatly reduced breath loss in abyss, pseudo flight in...

all of the above can be achieved elsewhere, especially flipper effect
you can literally get a flipper potion with a relatively free recipe, and its water breathing effect is substitutable with water breathing potion in non-abyss and for abyss I will definitely rather have +50 defense instead

and I dont know why, but abyss breathing is super free nowadays even just stacking like 2 water breathing accessory so you don't have to exceedingly stack it

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the most unique effect of neptune shell is it is one of the 2 available item that gives actual "ignore water physics" effect, but the other alternative which is aquatic heart is just this but better

tldr is neptune shell is literally just aquatic heart but worse

crude geode
sand marlin
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It's more like Aquatic Heart is the one that's slightly overtuned though

small timber
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aquatic heart is not overtuned

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more like neptune shell is significantly undertuned

sand marlin
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That's

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Not really much a point

small timber
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flipper + water breathing is just a shit effect to have because they are 100% replaceable with just potion, its only worthwhile effect is water physics ignore

sand marlin
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It's a builtin feature towards a greater accessory as well

small timber
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it is a builtin feature to a greater acessory by which the weakeness is that neptune shell is part of it

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in its current state if celestial shell don't have neptune shell it is straight up just a better accessory, because it means you can use it underwater without suffering stat loss (at least for melee)

sand marlin
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For one, werewolf effect is only at night and like you wouldn't really go out of your way to obtain werewolf form when you're doing abyss exploration it's a very tiny bonus even if it did anyway

cobalt pewter
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neptune shell is pretty ancient I recall

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it never got much of changes since it was implemented in vanilla

sand marlin
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If you don't have neptune shell in CShell then you don't get any of the underwater effects that's not really an argument for CShell being better underwater when you're losing said underwater bonuses

cobalt pewter
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we should bring back old gills effect

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air becomes water and water becomes air

sand marlin
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  • Gills stacks with Merfolk form so it's not an alternative but a bonus with it
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The only alternative here is flippers which is sure, it's not that bad

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If you're talking about underwater it's really only abyss to take into consideration here anyway

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Underwater arena for bosses is very niche

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So we have one minor alternative at best to be able to compare

small timber
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for underwater arena, neptune shell effect is actually useful because for boss fights the unhindered movement is pretty good (the other options are aquatic heart and fishron wing), the issue is of course with creating and using underwater arena

at pre-golem (no celestial shell), there is no reason not to use aquatic heart instead because neptune shell do the same just worse, for post-golem fishron wing is one of the best wing until post-ML

for abyss specifically, for underwater exploration I will 100% rather just have aquatic emblem, aquatic heart or even better the abyss diving gear line just because all of them do the same job but better

neptune shell is only useful if you are specifically asking for an underwater abyss accessory that gives damage, but all of the above mentioned do better in other regards (particularly defensively)

with the current state of abyss, you don't need more than gill + any of the above, and abyss diving gear in particular already outclass many others that you should be using it just because of light level alone (unless you go hunter potion and go blindly or stack other sources of light but arctic diving gear is just the easiest)

and this doesn't dispute the fact that the entirely reason neptune shell is remotely usable is because of Celestial Shell, which the suggestion stated is basically more because of celestial shell being too good than neptune shell being a good effect

crude geode
sand marlin
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Abyssal Diving Gear having good light level is not bad actually that's a good point

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Other than that, you can't stack gills with emblem so that's not really a good thing to be saying for something that is supposed to be better? You would be lacking the breath loss reduction at which point it would only be an alternative for a defensive accessory not underwater accessory

small timber
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iirc the last time I tried it in death ftw, just abyss (only arctic even) + gill potion alone gives you line 5 min of water breathing and lvl4 abyss

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so you really do not need more than that, especially with amidias blessing helping you to tank the breath meter until you take a hit

small timber
sand marlin
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It's not really hard to take a hit on the way with the abundance of mobs and steam and bubble

sand marlin
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You're making comparison for an underwater accessory

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Not a defensive one

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It doesn't matter if it has 50 defense, it's not actually an alternative

sand marlin
small timber
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aquatic emblem is an underwater accessory that I will much rather use over neptune shell

sand marlin
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Except with Gills it's really not

crude geode
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The other underwater accessories over other things besides just. water movement.

small timber
crude geode
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Defense or light level or ice shield or anything besides more aquatic stats

small timber
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meanwhile surviving with the overstated abyss enemy is much more useful

sand marlin
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You can't really ignore that point, it's a defensive accessory underwater, not anything to do with water breathing which is what gills already does and not stack with

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Like, the defense is good

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It makes you slow which makes it harder to dodge which is a somewhat fair downside

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But again that's not really the same thing in comparison

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It's just not an alternative to neptune shell

small timber
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that applies too for neptune shell, it has 3 effect:

  1. water breathing (pretty much irrelevant as stated above just because it is too easy nowadays)

  2. flipper (flipper potion)

  3. ignore water physics (which is unironically not useful for abyss exploration since it is a slow process anyway, it is useful for water arena for boss fight)

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so 2/3 of the effect is just not relevant for abyss (which as you say is the main thing people usually use underwater accessory for), while water breathing have alternative sources that provide better bonus (namely arctic/abyss diving gear)

sand marlin
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I can't really agree with you on the ignore water physics part, flipper is fine and understandable, water breathing as you've said is superior to emblem's for stacking with gills and is another check complete for the list you mentioned above being gills + any stackable water breathing

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To say that ignoring water physics is not useful is a heavy understatement

small timber
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so for abyss: neptune shells just do not really give super relevant effect

for water arena for bosses: neptune shell do not give stats to compensate for the loss of an accessory slot for ignore water physics effect (which is pretty much the only relevant effect here)

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ignore water physics IS super useful, the issue is not for abyss

sand marlin
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It is though, how would it not be useful for abyss?

small timber
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because abyss mobs just do not require precise dodging that ignore water physics allow you to do, most of them do large movement

crude geode
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I’ve never really felt the need for precise movements in abyss

sand marlin
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Are you really gonna fall down to the bottom while waiting twice the time you would be otherwise?

small timber
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unless you are talking about post-ML (polter) abyss miniboss, by which point you have abyssal diving gear and diving suit available which do exactly that

sand marlin
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Doesn't have to be layer 4 or anything

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Water physics is a pretty big obstruction for your descent taking so much time to just fall down

crude geode
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Iron Boots exist to make you fall faster and are a part of the dedicated abyss item line

sand marlin
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It's pretty much an unupgraded iron boots together with the other two effects

small timber
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which aquatic heart/fishron wing also gives (though fishron wings come later, but its main competition in this case is celestial shell)

sand marlin
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I mean there's not really much a point in not using CShell when you get it because it is the best stat stick around that stage anyway, they kinda cancel each other out with that

crude geode
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That’s not really a plus for Neptune’s tho

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That just makes it another garbage material accessory

sand marlin
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It lets you use other wings or just like, until you get Fishron?

crude geode
sand marlin
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I love skipping details that I think don't matter!

small timber
# small timber for underwater arena, neptune shell effect is actually useful because for boss f...

which is again back to the point:

the fact that "neptune shell effect" is remotely usable is because it is part of the Celestial Shell, not because it is a great standalone effect, which the suggestion stated is what it intend to do, to buff the "neptune shell" part of the effect

Celestial Shell will become stronger in the process yes, but at least you still lose the Werewolf part of the bonus, and it still take some effort to assemble the accessory because the ingredients are somewhat specific

sand marlin
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I don't have anything more to say, I've said my piece

small timber
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I am not saying neptune shell should give like +10% damage +5% crit underwater to basically make it an underwater werewolf form, just something so the stand alone neptune shell is more worthwhile

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and if abyss breathing meter is harder to come by it is a considerable effect yes, but at this point abyss breathing meter had been nerfed so hard that this is not really a considerable upside anymore, just an upside

dreamy trellis
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Could give neptune a more powerful version of uhhhhh Desert Scourge’s thing

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Or whatever made ocean creatures friendly

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Maybe it could extend to layer 1-2 Abyss enemies or something

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Since you become a fishy abomination

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At that point anyways layer 1-2 are to some extent trivial

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But I dunno

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Not much that can be done without just adding a stat stick

bright crag
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@mystic sandal Balance suggestions aren't allowed, please read the suggestion rules for the details

mystic sandal
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My bad

bright crag
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It's alright

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Thank you for removing it

grave zincBOT
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@burnt beacon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give the Elemental Blaster a similar mechanic to the Speed Blaster, its predecessor]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

regal willow
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🔒 moment

burnt beacon
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yeah i forgot about the saw launcher which is even better so no problem with that

frail mantle
golden sonnet
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Also bugs don't go here as outlined in the rules

glad rain
coral carbon
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That "undecided version number" could even be the Sunken Sea Rework update, so IDK when it drops

fervent orbit
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calamity players try to read challenge

frail mantle
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shut up

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you don't need to make fun of people because they missed something

coral carbon
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I also lagged on these lasers, but I treated it like a "bullet time" of sorts

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Still, would prefer the lag being gone

wide river
crude geode
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specifically the reading comprehension "joke"

glad rain
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the interaction doesnt matter

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ill lag everytime when hes on my screen

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as a summoner

golden sonnet
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Have you seen if this happens with calamity only?

novel belfry
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should i write a sugg to have the crystal assassin armor boost dashes?

fervent orbit
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i think smthn like that was alr suggested

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cant remember if it passed or not

royal tapir
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@wintry gale Old Duke already uses Duke Fishron's theme if Cal Music is disabled

wintry gale
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oh

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ok

drowsy plank
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@mental fractal that's gross; calamity already removed something like that off of sparkle slime balloons from vanilla

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im just straight up deleting that one

mental fractal
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What the

lucid flare
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bro what even was the suggestion 😭

fervent orbit
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dont ask

lucid flare
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i already asked

fervent orbit
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you dont want to ask

lucid flare
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i already did

fervent orbit
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well

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just unask

lucid flare
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no

lucid marsh
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I kinda want to know what it was too

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Going to assume it's the tooltip on the sparkle slime balloon

buoyant idol
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Morbid Curiosity

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Perhaps spoiler it

supple rivet
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can they make leviathen big asl too if they're making dog big asf wires

glass arch
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levi is already big as fuck

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and nobody wants to resprite levi

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especially when her current sprite is more than sufficient

cobalt pewter
supple rivet
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i need atleast half my screen filled

glass arch
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downgrade to pre rust and dust

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boom theres your half screen levi

wide river
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Another option: zoom in

supple rivet
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i remember clueless

lucid flare
glad rain
drowsy plank
flint linden
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"Elemental Blaster is one of the most boring ranger weapons" literally one of the most unique ranger weapons lol

hollow shell
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Blaster? Isn't it just a homing projectile currently?

glass arch
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iirc yes

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just a hell of a lot of homing projectiles

lucid flare
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i'd say clockwork bow is the more unique one (and it's on the same tier too)

regal willow
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wires 🙏

flint linden
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Because it's still more interesting than boring pew pew guns and bows

lucid flare
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i'd give it a C tier

glad rain
drowsy plank
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also i do not think cal is going to be adding sentry slots anytime soon until The Great Summoner Balancing is actually complete

glass arch
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yeah uh

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sentries are extremely fucked balance wise

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(see: spikecrag killing pbg in under a minute solo)

drowsy plank
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lul

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also stardust is still pretty solid for most of the game

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idr does auric summoner have slots?

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i feel like it got like one or something but maybe im just thinking about stardust having sentry slots

glass arch
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none of the armors that go into it have sentry slots so

drowsy plank
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yeah but auric is trying to move away from that anyway

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eh w/e

frail mantle
ripe junco
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did not know summoner and the new sentries were in general need of balancing i just found it odd that there was not a single thing outside of the ooa stuff that buffed sentries considering some of the end game stuff is supposed to be the everything of the class yet not a single sentry buff to be found making the ooa gear the best for max sentry builds even post scal

stable kiln
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I have played the update DoG and can confirm I got a clean 60fps during walls for the first time in months

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its fixed, at least in the private version

bright crag
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They gave Stardust 1 sentry slot, and that's it

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Because minions and sentries are not mutually exclusive in how the weapons work
You can use both at once
So, to make the class balanced, you can't have sizeable bonuses to both

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You either go full sentry, full minion, or a very limited mix of both

ripe junco
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yeah that is understandable though it makes me wonder why no sentry focused set as even one would be nice

grim tusk
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In vanilla stardust is balanced due to being post-game

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On Calamity; Stardust armor is fucking overpowered with its vanilla stats

ripe junco
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huh i see

drowsy plank
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would be nice to see a single sentry slot on auric or smthn tho considering its position is progression CalSmug

bright crag
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I do think post-ML should have one or two sets entirely dedicated to sentries

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But no sentry slots outside of that

frail mantle
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how many post ml sentries are there again

golden sonnet
drowsy plank
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Old Besty REAL 💥

golden sonnet
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Holy shit, old Betsy

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Real shit

frail mantle
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by the gods

ripe junco
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6 post ml sentries according to wiki so yeah a set or 2 for them would be nice

golden sonnet
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In all seriousness, the distortion events or whatever is planned for them could have sentry aspects

wide river
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Turn Fearmonger into a sentry armor ultimatesmug

modern rapids
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sentries might be interesting to balance for the final bosses
since exos are usually fought in a large arena which makes stationary sentries less viable while scal is the opposite

wide river
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Oh yeah idk if anyone's brought it up yet but there was in fact a suggestion requesting sentry slots to be added to existing post-Moon Lord summoner armors that was denied

novel belfry
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also a callback to this terrifying utterance

north oracle
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one punctuation mark in that entire suggestion

worldly sparrow
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oh shit you right

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mf types like sans undertale

buoyant idol
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No capitalization either

golden sonnet
north oracle
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True, there’s an apostrophe

buoyant idol
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Exactly one comma, no periods.

ripe junco
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yeah dispite english being my only language i never fully learned how to use punctuation so i end up not using it most of the time and as for the no caps yeah no that is just me being lazy

supple rivet
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Revamp the golem temple

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Shits ASS

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Golems too good to have an ass temple

crude geode
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What about it is ass

novel belfry
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it sucks

wide river
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Yes, but how

crude geode
wide river
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Just saying "it bad" (basically) doesn't really get your point across

crude geode
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Yeah

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It doesn’t give any clue on what needs to be fixed regarding the temple

drowsy plank
buoyant idol
wide river
north oracle
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wow that's a good idea

drowsy plank
modern rapids
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ravager clueless
close enough

novel belfry
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ravager is probably the most poorly designed boss in calamity and yet it's STILL miles better than Golem

buoyant idol
novel belfry
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aside from crab, yeah

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but still better than golem

buoyant idol
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I'd honestly go to say Crab is worse than golem.

novel belfry
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the only reason why people still like crab is because his music is way too good for him

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i also like how its absurdly cheery because his lore back then was literally just a copypasta

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not yknow, actual calamity mod lore

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but now that crab is defined as the husk of a crab from illmeris that's being puppeteered by SHROOMS

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well it just feels funky

buoyant idol
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Wasn't ever really a fan of Infestation either since it sounds like the mushroom theme and I don't like that song.

novel belfry
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you should probably check out vanilla calamity's mushroom theme, i think that sounds a whole lot better and really nice

buoyant idol
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Will check

modern rapids
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only just noticed the intro of that theme is infestation slowed

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cool

novel belfry
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNeUjUD4yLI

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buoyant idol
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Much better

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Keeps the vibe of the biome with the slightly unnerving undertones of what the shrooms do.

modern rapids
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i don't even remember what vanilla mushroom theme sounds like

novel belfry
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and also somehow a very slight dog motif

buoyant idol
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I noticed that too, maybe an upcoming theme?

modern rapids
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are you referring to literally the first 3 notes of universal collapse

buoyant idol
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I posted a note block cover of that and it got 22K views from a 10 sub channel, people love Universal Collapse

hollow shell
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forgetting the booowooowEEEEOOoo

buoyant idol
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Mushroom theme be like

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I'm in danger

drowsy plank
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crabulon is bad for many reasons but he still feels more thought out than the second required jungle boss immediately after the first required jungle boss

crude geode
sinful violet
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theres required jungle bosses

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?

fervent orbit
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what

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oh cog meant

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vanilla

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plant into golem

sinful violet
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ohhhhhhhhhhhh

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so true

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that makes zero sense to me no idea what crab has to do with that but so true

crude geode
buoyant idol
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Out of the way, hold item in air spawn method. Morning wood walking with jumping and shrooms. Incredibly basic and limited due to small intended arena.

small timber
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small and limited arena is not a problem, in fact most of the more interesting bosses have a small arena, because it allows attacks to be better designed without easily being trivialized

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the issue with crabulon is crabulon have a small arena and then proceed to do nothing interesting with it, they just make it incredibly passive instead

buoyant idol
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Contact damage also messes with the fight a lot, would be better if it had a dedicated melee move instead.

stray warren
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my brain when playing getfixedboi (it's terrible)

worldly sparrow
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posting is empty :O

crude geode
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This is truly a Halloween miracle (or curse)

wide river
hybrid steeple
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dont think
generate suggestion and post it immediately

regal willow
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sugg sigma grindset

buoyant idol
royal tapir
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❗

buoyant idol
regal willow
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🧐

buoyant idol
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Did anybody see a wall of text instantly vanish?

regal willow
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not me...

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must have missed it
mods can check message logs fr

small timber
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Why should they catch on fire, they should be really angry instead of damaged (considering it is called "berserk")

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As in something like ares blender escape enrage visual, except for all mechs as they drop lower health

buoyant idol
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While interesting, why would the machines be angry? It’s implied that Ares is manually enraged by Draedon, so large changes would have to be done to account for that being the case for all 3.

small timber
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Not necessary angry (it is just the first adjective that come to mind), more like starting to get overclocked

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While yes fire do fit "overclocking", but considering how high tech exo mechs is supposed to be I will find it strange/unfitting if they catch on fire from it

buoyant idol
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I’d say they catch fire due to circuit damage, maybe a small spark rain similar to the one from Violence instead?

small timber
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I will say the "berserk" visual fit much more as "desperation"

If they catch on fire and start breaking down it convey more that they are just "dying" instead of trying to drag you down with them

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If you do both then it might work yes

buoyant idol
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I find the damage to work less as dying, rather a last stand of sort.

small timber
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That fits for human/wild life etc (or just living being) but not mechs (thematically)

You beat down on a machine, it only get more damaged, there is no last stand from a machine

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Hence why only the breakdown/damaged visual will just not work, if you want to both ("berserk" visual + damaged) should be done

buoyant idol
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I’ll change my suggestion to include that

small timber
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Or you can change it more generic and ask for a visual indication that the mechs are in "desperation phase" and only put it as example yeah

Since currently for the most part the fire (or if you changed it, berserk + fire) will still be the main point of the suggestion rather than a potential way a visual cue can be implemented

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Because the devs might also do something else, considering they have the entire idea with exo crystal to tinker with if they want to (or just a different implementation of the idea)

buoyant idol
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True, open ended suggestions are more likely to pass

buoyant idol
edgy nebula
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make it work with advanced world generation

fervent citrus
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i want to suggest some furniture or anything similar that would atract meteors/astral meteors to prevent those from spawning anywhere inconvenient, has such a suggestion been made before?

drowsy plank
fervent citrus
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it clearly didnt workXD

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drowsy plank
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i dont see any chests in there

wide river
fervent citrus
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guess imma just add more chests everywhere

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good thing i had autosave disabled lo

wide river
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Echo Coat the chests if you don't want them to interfere with the ✨ aesthetic ✨

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Never mind that's not available til after Plantera

fervent citrus
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well i can always remove them after the meteor falls lo

golden tulip
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didnt andrew already wanna rework exos

worldly sparrow
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did he?

wide river
buoyant idol
ashen warren
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this has given me a cool idea

buoyant idol
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@formal sphinx Great idea, but could you provide alternative reasoning to "It'd be cool" since the devs don't accept that line of reasoning.

formal sphinx
buoyant idol
formal sphinx
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Alright how's that

drowsy plank
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"Profaned Crags" lmfao

wide river
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Yes besides that minor issue I would say it's valid

drowsy plank
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gfb suggs are weird

formal sphinx
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Oof

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I keep mixing up the words in my head

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Fixed

wide river
# drowsy plank gfb suggs are weird

I would say something like this is fine because the concept of it isn't inherently a meme, unlike other GFB suggestions we get
In my opinion, GFB suggestions (and suggestions that would indirectly affect the seed) are valid as long as they do not exploit the Suggestions Guidelines by using the memeness of the seed as an excuse to post meme suggestions

stable kiln
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and i mean, they are valid

fervent orbit
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its just difficult to do them without saying "its cool"

stable kiln
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but tbh the chances of them being implemented are low becuase gfb was something the team worked on while working on other things was weird, and i doubt people would want to work on the seed now unless itsd a bugfix or something

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my take, at least

wintry gale
wintry gale
novel belfry
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rebuilding Azafure would be actually neat

crude geode
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I can’t believe this new sugg is actually valid cuz of the new sugg rules

novel belfry
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finally

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we have a chance of fixing this unnecessarily stupid issue

crude geode
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It feels a bit roundabout of a way to fix it and I feel like the old sugg rules still serve as good criticism against this sugg, but ultimately it isn’t invalid

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This is a way to fix the problem, just a more convoluted one than simply. giving graves a crafting recipe.

wide river
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I would say that simply suggesting to lower the grave requirement might be better if people truly believe it's too much, but that's been tried many times before and hasn't done much...

royal tapir
crude geode
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Is this a sugg predicting the future moment

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or dev plans in general

regal willow
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👀

royal tapir
crude geode
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@novel belfry

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See above

novel belfry
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what does that mean?

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i might sound like an idiot tho

wide river
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An update of Calamity in the future will have Tombstone recipes, thus making it easier to create Graveyards without needing to die

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Thereby making this proposed config of yours redundant, as the config wouldn't need to exist if Graveyards are easier to make than they were before

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Also makes Graveyard setup for Hardcore characters a bit easier than massacring Town NPCs repeatedly...

novel belfry
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i still find it weird tho, but i suppose this will have to do

ripe owl
fleet flume
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Are there new rules or are you referring to the new document?

stable kiln
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there are plans already to deal with the graveyard changes, already implemented I believe

grim tusk
fervent citrus
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unless some other mod i have somehow messes with astral meteor worldgen

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knowing terraria/tml code, i wouldnt be too surprised clueless

halcyon hazel
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is it possible to get the broken hero sword after only one mech boss or all three?

daring solstice
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wrong channel tho

half sage
small timber
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evil sky island still exist right?

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the suggestion should probably at least mention that

wintry gale
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done

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well
any thoughts about the sugg?

small timber
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should be fine, don't really have an issue with it

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they wanted to delete evil sky island and provide alternative, so to certain degree it is already planned, but might be a different implementation

royal tapir
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So, about that too

fervent orbit
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"made dryad sell the other evil seeds at any time, as long as its in a graveyard"

royal tapir
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Yes

fervent orbit
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i am simply too smart for this world

wintry gale
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no

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i am.

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i predicted first

royal tapir
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You're literally Reimu catgirl