#suggestions-discussion

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ornate kestrel
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Worst vanilla event is old one's army imo

cobalt pewter
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the bar is indeed low

wide river
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It has more enemy variety than 20 different fighter AI so it's automatically better

crude geode
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Literally on the floor

deft yew
cobalt pewter
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nah old one's army is conceptually the only event that does it right

deft yew
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it actually structures itself as a proper event

crude geode
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I wish every frost moon enemy was elf copter esque in behavior

cobalt pewter
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it has a primary objective (protecting the crystal)

deft yew
crude geode
ornate kestrel
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I dislike it for some reason

crude geode
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and not just fodder for your aoe

wide river
distant gyro
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best one is actually solar pillar clueless

cobalt pewter
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difficulty is relative (mod can balance things if they like), concept is the one that matters the most

crude geode
cobalt pewter
ornate kestrel
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Actually pillars are worst

deft yew
ornate kestrel
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Then old one's army

crude geode
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They hated crawltipede because he showed terrarians based events

ornate kestrel
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Then every other event

distant gyro
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it is the most interesting of all vanilla stuff that does not have passive side quests

wide river
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I will defend Pumpkin Moon with my life but that's only because I'm biased towards spooky

cobalt pewter
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all events should have a form of crawltipedes

deft yew
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terraria event ranking

  1. old one's army
  2. literally everything else
  3. pillars
crude geode
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Elf copters are the crawltipedes of frost moon /j

cobalt pewter
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Dutchman can act as pirates' anti-air

crude geode
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Fighter ais are the crawltipedes of the moons /srs

ornate kestrel
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I like frost legion cause snowman

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It literally serves no purpose

wide river
ornate kestrel
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But I like it

crude geode
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It just sucks that the role is taken up by half the enemies

cobalt pewter
distant gyro
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fly up then swoop down to get hearts gameplay loop

ornate kestrel
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How dare you

crude geode
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It’s actually pretty neat but the fact there’s so little flying enemies kills any enjoyment of the moons

ornate kestrel
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I love the most useless event for being the most useless

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It means I don't have to do it for better gear

cobalt pewter
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frost legion could be gone and no one would remember, let alone weep for it

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that's how forgettable the event is

ornate kestrel
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Which is why I love it

distant gyro
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moons descending into spam of 1 enemy kinda destroys it

cobalt pewter
crude geode
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Also true

wide river
cobalt pewter
ornate kestrel
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The zenith seed should've created a thing that combined both pumpkin and frost moon

distant gyro
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solar pillar actually has a dynamic of 2 fuck you enemies that you have to juggle your tasks between

crude geode
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Yeah

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Every other event has like 1 that is split across 10 different enemy types

distant gyro
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other events fall into the category of a mass of easy enemies or the 1 big enemy that matters

crude geode
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Wyverns when they

quiet kernel
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Wyverns are actually pirates (lore theory)

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I mean they can apear during a pirate invasion

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And uhhh

crude geode
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The player is actually a pirate

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Anyways buff toads to be an absolute menace to society so you’re forced into the water

cobalt pewter
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pellets from each toad explosion cover the entire biome and dissolve in sulphurous waters

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that's a gfb idea there

small timber
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in gfb skyfin uses gastric belcher AI

wide river
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Nuclear Toad projectiles turn tiles into Sulphurous Sand in GFB

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Bring back old Corruptor behavior cowards /j

cobalt pewter
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I love environmentally hazardous enemies

hollow shell
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[obligatory evil island conversation]

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there, now we don't have to talk about it HDfailure

wide river
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It's gonna happen anyway knowing this channel

golden sonnet
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Damn, now I can't discuss it as everything has been said

crude geode
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Just delete the suggestion so we don’t have to talk about it

wide river
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The people here are the masters of making unnecessary conversations for hours

crude geode
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We are

fleet flume
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Yes, truly

crude geode
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Remember that time we talked about events for a good like three hours

fleet flume
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I want that emoji wiped off the face of the Earth for good

golden sonnet
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Why, XD is great

fleet flume
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This XD is absolutely horrifying.

north oracle
wide river
golden sonnet
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He is my son ♥️

wide river
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Insert gif of it clapping with the word "epico"

fleet flume
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Some may hate a person, despite the fact that they're another's son.

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The same applies to emojis

glass arch
fleet flume
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Oh no there are more

wide river
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Thank you

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(How did you find this)

glass arch
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go into the gif browser and type in epico

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it is literally the first gif

crude geode
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Gif browser is one of like 5 good things they’ve added to discord

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Hey we should talk about gif browser for two hours now

wide river
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Somehow this conversation is more interesting than 90% of the conversations this place has

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And it's not about suggestions

fleet flume
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We could do better than 2 hours... How about nine?

glass arch
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yes because all of the other conversations devolve into talking about every single cal flaw in existence

crude geode
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You have to be in sugg discussion for bare minimum a year to appreciate random design conversations

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It’s like a renaissance painting or the Mona Lisa

glass arch
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i dont appreciate them because theres so goddamn many

fleet flume
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I've already seen how long conversations can go for.

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You get instant responses, but somehow it takes hours.

glass arch
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or hell if they actually went anywhere

fleet flume
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They're fun to me.

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Perhaps we can come up with some sort of system for this. How do threads on discord work?

drowsy plank
fleet flume
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Where is that?

wide river
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On mobile, I have no idea because I don't use mobile

fleet flume
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You have to click it every time?

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That is awful.

wide river
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Wrong reply but you get the point

fleet flume
fleet flume
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Okay bye!

drowsy plank
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evil islands are dying anyway lmao

regal willow
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real?

drowsy plank
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they've said it a lot

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they're ugly and bad

regal willow
drowsy plank
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i think it might come next update since presumably that will be the balance/cleanup post-port

regal willow
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so what is the replacement

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for evil boss 2 pre hardmode and the opposite evil biome chest

drowsy plank
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nothing lol
maybe the second chest will generate in the dungeon instead? idk
dryad will be selling opposite evil seeds during blood moons in preHM instead of hardmode so you'll have that at least i think

wide river
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(Numerous being like 2)

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(I overexaggerate shit ok)

regal willow
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(wires 👍)

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(feel free to ping me, I don't mind)

hybrid steeple
north oracle
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I’d use that one too

fleet flume
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Or a surprised :0X:

crude geode
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mfw minor rename sugg that will instantly get sent to devs

hollow ridge
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Providence, a Profaned Goddess

whole tundra
fleet flume
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Providence + , Profaned Goddess

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That's how it works I believe, with a prefix, the boss's main name, and a suffix.

cobalt heath
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doesn't the current one work the same way? As she is THE god of purity

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though slime god lacks the ''the'' in it's name

cobalt pewter
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I don't like the whole naming of "<name>, <title>" in general

crude geode
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Like Silva and whatnot

cobalt pewter
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honestly just ball and remove Profaned Goddess from her name

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or implement a title system

crude geode
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Someone made a mod that kinda does that for biomes recently

cobalt pewter
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oh really?

crude geode
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It’s on the front page of the workshop and looks neat

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Adds a little flair whenever you enter a biome with it’s name and a little like addition

cobalt pewter
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that's cute, might check later, rn I'm a bit confused on why Kelvin is performing surprisingly well on things now

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last time I checked it sucked

crude geode
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Balance when it is baffling

fleet flume
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<Providence, the >

crude geode
sand marlin
cobalt pewter
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whuh

fleet flume
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Providence, the Profaned Goddess - Profaned Goddess = Providence, the

cobalt heath
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isn't scal even

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Calamitas, the supreme witch

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or no?

quiet kernel
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Its Supreme Witch, Calamitas iirc

cobalt heath
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Imo the 'the' makes the name sound more like

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epic

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cus there is only one

crude geode
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It’s such a subjective thing that I could not care less

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Tbfh

cobalt heath
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this is just lore channel war all over again

cobalt pewter
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yeah honestly just remove titles from boss names

cobalt heath
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lore tards fighting over stupid shitt

cobalt pewter
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and implement titles somewhere else

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no one's gonna bother mentioning their title

sand marlin
crude geode
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Lore dorks versus no shitters who’s winning

cobalt pewter
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what about nohitter lore nerds

distant gyro
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speedrunners

cobalt pewter
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playing both sides so they come out on top

cobalt pewter
distant gyro
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that's the joke clueless

fleet flume
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People who want to play Calamity, but haven't got any way to play the mod. I used to be among them.

crude geode
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Anyways the answer is lore nerds bc they didn’t actively get removed in an update and shoved in a separate mod

cobalt heath
junior tendon
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what

cobalt pewter
bold wave
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How about "Profaned Goddess Providence" clueless

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Like you don't say "Arthur, King"

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"Biden, President"

fervent orbit
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do you not know?

bold wave
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Enlighten me

fervent orbit
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we obviously called arthur with Arthur, King

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every brit can attest to that

halcyon zealot
distant gyro
bright crag
bold wave
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Hm, ig that way it sounds better if the title has multiple words

junior tendon
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Flesh, Wall of

robust cove
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Cthulhu, Eye of

solar bobcat
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Worlds, Eater of

halcyon zealot
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😭

tired haven
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True, Cthulhu, Eye of

bold wave
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😭 I was talking about names that would work even without the "title"

fervent orbit
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Orca, Orcinus

bold wave
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You got me

fervent orbit
north oracle
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Cryogen, Cryogen Cryogen

fervent orbit
livid coral
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Lmaao of course you want to

halcyon zealot
north oracle
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my phone died and that sent when I powered it on ok

hollow shell
native sable
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If it's Supreme witch, calamitas, make it profane goddess, providence

livid coral
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I know I’m being facetious hehe

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tbh I share similar sentiments regardless

hollow shell
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Hard not to arrive at that feeling as a dev for Cal

cobalt pewter
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calamity 2 when boys

livid coral
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Yeah though I’ve been watching some peeps have loads of fun reworking some things and sometimes that’s all that matters:having fun.

junior tendon
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but byeah uh what did you mean by your message rover lmao

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"SoA pilled"

ashen warren
hollow shell
cobalt pewter
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many things about cal is definitely improving yea, I think the only issue for me is how they drop updates for changes

because major patches take forever at a time, and while understandable due to the size, I think stuff can definitely be chopped up into slightly bigger minor updates

junior tendon
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oh you have no idea

hollow shell
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at least he was last time I played

livid coral
junior tendon
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guess I got confused by the "pure luminite" thing

cobalt heath
hollow shell
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I feel like I remember some mod in the past had a non-fragment Luminite armor that was thrower

junior tendon
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pretty sure it was Thorium

livid coral
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Didn’t Tremor have one of those?

junior tendon
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nope

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Tremor had an own pillar

livid coral
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Thorium mixed fragments but Tremor-yeah

bright crag
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Tremor was Alchemist Pillar, wasn't it

junior tendon
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nope

sleek turret
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piss yellow pillar

junior tendon
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surprisingly

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anyways don't tell anyone

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cobalt heath
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how generation

cobalt pewter
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I don't remember my idea for meld, but I think it involves a parasitic being "leeching" off existing pillars to manufacture its own Creature based off the leeched pillar

cobalt heath
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I liked it but

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can't suggest it

hollow shell
cobalt heath
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also there is a pretty good chance my meld obtaining sugg will go trough

sleek turret
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i think my sugg goes next batch which should be the 17th

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otherwise i'll resugg it again

oblique geyser
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We need suggestion categories

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Rename suggestions when they take over the top 20%

cobalt pewter
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sugg categories huh

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it

could potentially work

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conceptually at least

drowsy plank
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ive asked about it before
never really went anywhere

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well actually i think rover just said no

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but yeah

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it is very funny how suggs end up working out sometimes

ashen warren
cobalt pewter
whole tundra
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Btw. Providence, Profaned Goddess, sounds like there are multiple of her. That would only spark confusion

worldly sparrow
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as a lorehead i can confirm that there are not multiple profaned godesses

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so keeping the "the" is good

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remove = bad

oblique geyser
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Like how balance suggestions are banned

ripe owl
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They're not

eternal escarp
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i mean theres no reason to ban thwm

ripe owl
eternal escarp
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and they werwnr banned thwy were redirected

oblique geyser
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Because they crowd out other suggestion

hollow ridge
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Wasnt scals name changed on a sugg

ripe owl
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They are banned but only because Balance Suggs thread exists

oblique geyser
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"Shotgunk" pushed out some y'know actually good suggestions

eternal escarp
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sure but thwy are still valid suggestions usually

oblique geyser
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Okay but rename suggestions suck

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Even if they're valid

eternal escarp
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you can say that on anything its subjective

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aerodynamite waa renamed because of a sugg

hollow ridge
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also holy shit that's alot of red

ripe owl
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You're welcome

eternal escarp
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CD should show above nohit roles.,.,.,

hollow ridge
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No icon

oblique geyser
hollow ridge
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not cool

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👎

eternal escarp
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thats not my point tho wyvern

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my point is these suggestions do sometimes pass just as much as other suggestions do

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cant just ban them

oblique geyser
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Rename suggestions push out a lot of other good suggestions and they're usually just kinda minor gripes

eternal escarp
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other gameplay sugg can also be about minor gripes

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and even if they are still doesnt make them non-valid
there should just be a better way to make suggestions not drown each other out rather than just ban a completely valid suggestion type

oblique geyser
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Flat star threshold return when...

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Actually good suggestion vs Shotgunk rap battle

eternal escarp
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i mean i honwstly thought shotgunk was kinda clever personally

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so yeah
subjective

cobalt pewter
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I think it's fine to like

idk let the devs / mods react to a sugg so that the suggestion would be processed separately? might run into problems but otherwise it would sift the rename ones away from others

hollow ridge
eternal escarp
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rovers suggestions history post

cobalt pewter
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check pins, rover made a whole ass sugg timeline

eternal escarp
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check it

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yea

hollow ridge
cobalt pewter
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the lowest one

eternal escarp
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it ddfinitely is

hollow ridge
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yea i see it

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nvm ill read it again

worldly sparrow
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honestly just make a thread for rename suggs just like how there is one for balance suggs

hollow ridge
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there is loads of types of suggs tho

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so why facilitate only 1?

worldly sparrow
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because we dont want threads for every type of sugg

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that would be crowded af

hollow ridge
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(balance suggs doesnt count cus more than balance suggs goes on there)

hollow ridge
worldly sparrow
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2 is company

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it's just kinda sad that rename suggs that almost nobody will notice in game get in the 20% like 70% of the time

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pushing out suggs that are needed

oblique geyser
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^

worldly sparrow
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which is why i think either making a thread for rename suggs
OR BETTER
making it a flat star limit

drowsy plank
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just resugg clueless

worldly sparrow
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but there's just gonna be more rename suggs in that batch :/

wide river
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The problem with re-introducing the star requirement is that makes it so actually bad suggestions can get through

cobalt pewter
ashen warren
worldly sparrow
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and ive read the lore

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theres only one

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removing the "the" from dragonfolly makes sense because there's multiple

wide river
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As another lore rep I can also confirm that there's only one Profaned Goddess

cobalt pewter
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I would like to ask an opinion of this place's old man,

is rover awake

worldly sparrow
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who knows

ashen warren
cobalt pewter
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amazing

fervent orbit
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i am such a giga brain when making shitposts

making an actual suggestion tho.....

small timber
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I think the only distinction it need is like "cosmetic" and "functional" suggestion have their own pool

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For example instead of only picking top 20% of all suggestion, pick top 10% from each pook or something so the total amount stay the same just what get passed is more split

fervent orbit
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segregation is key to all problems

wide river
fervent orbit
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the chances of that are so low

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that would NEVER happen

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right?

grizzled dome
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I don't know the exact solution, but I do think categorizing suggestions could be useful. Maybe do "top 20%, but no more than X rename suggestions"? Or "batch" rename suggestions so they don't count towards the limit in the same kind of way? There's rename suggestions I liked (one I made, even!) but I still feel bad about them because there's a lot of minor suggestions (some verging on bugfixes) which just bury and push out other, better, more meaningful suggestions.

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The other thing is that, and correct me if I'm wrong, rename suggestions would probably take significantly less time on the devs' end. If the idea to limiting the number of suggestion is limiting the amount of work shoveled onto the devs (which I should clarify I am not opposed to!) it seems odd that a boss AI change is treated as equal to changing a single string, and then sometimes other references to that thing (which might not even exist, for many items).

I want to make it clear that I'm not just trying to whine about how calamity devs should bend over backwards to do more for meeeeee. I'm just hopping onto the bandwagon.

fervent orbit
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do note that xpc specifically mentioned cosmetic

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it doesnt have to be sprite renames

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it can be resprites or new decorative blocks

grizzled dome
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Ah. I did not read carefully enough. Yeah, those things are similar in some ways and very different in others.

wide river
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Work in progress of a random suggestion idea I had

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Remove Spooky armor from Fearmonger armor's recipe

For an armor that is intended to be all-class, Fearmonger armor has a lot of connections that imply that it's a Summoner armor, being Spooky armor. If Fearmonger is supposed to be all-class, why is it crafted with a Summoner armor? If it's there as a way to connect it to the Pumpkin Moon, then surely Spooky Wood could be put in its place, or another material entirely.

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Wait, I noticed a typo. Better fix that

hollow shell
# worldly sparrow which is why i think either making a thread for rename suggs OR BETTER making it...

definitely no more flat star requirement because for the several years we had one it had to be changed so many times, manually, so that the ratio of suggs reaching the dev server remained around 20%
The influence of average activity usually outweighs any individual well-performing sugg

We decided to cut out the middle man by transitioning to our current system where we just directly calculate and send the top 20% every week

hollow shell
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wait what, colored alt healths wasn't implemented in the port??

drowsy plank
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it is

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i can literally go boot the game and see it

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idk what happened there

pine stratus
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I may not have played the 1.4.4 port yet, still on 1.4.3

wide river
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It's implemented on the 1.4.4 port

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Not on 1.4.3

hollow shell
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Don't make suggestions based on an outdated version, silly.

pine stratus
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Ah, I see. Well, thanks for the information.

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Not sure if I should remove it or not now, though...

wide river
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It ultimately won't matter if you delete it or not, as it will be automatically deleted in 24 hours due to the ❗
Though, if you delete it now, you'll probably be spared from the people telling you this was implemented hours from now

pine stratus
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Yeah, I'd rather not have that happen 😅

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Anywho, thanks for bringing this to my attention.

wide river
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No problem wedragud

eager bobcat
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I feel like too many suggestions are just "slightly improve base Terraria content"

drowsy plank
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correct

crude geode
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Kinda the problem with current sugg system

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Or just suggs in general

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I feel like the sugg regulars are definitely getting more and more tired with it tho so it might change

worldly sparrow
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^ as a sugg regular, i am getting tired with the current sugg system

drowsy plank
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make a calamity-suggs and vanilla-suggs sections clueless

sick belfry
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ban those that do constant bad suggestions from making more (unless most of the bad suggestions are 1 and dones where they don't ask again after)

drowsy plank
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the only person that'd apply to is equinoxshark XD

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since people who are bad at suggs usually just give up and leave

worldly sparrow
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make a requirement that needs to be fulfilled to make a suggestion
what a requirement could be in a server with like 6 roles, idk

sick belfry
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I've seen some bad suggs, and idk how to counter the wave of them that happen like daily

drowsy plank
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ive already asked rover to lock us behind the like. discord tutorial thing they do but it never went anywhere

sick belfry
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||Like the time someone wanted AP and another with CShell buffedclueless ||

eager bobcat
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Inherent open forum problem

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Literal children, English second language, trolls

worldly sparrow
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just ban every frequent suggestion

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renames? banned

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gfb changes? banned

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no problems

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whatsoever

sick belfry
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buff already broken item, banned

worldly sparrow
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will come from that

wide river
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Eventually every suggestion is banned and no one can suggest anything again

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We've solved the suggestion crisis

worldly sparrow
drowsy plank
worldly sparrow
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and then re-ban it in another few months

sick belfry
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banning the most asked will just be a cycle

neat linden
worldly sparrow
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actually better

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restrict suggestions to only people who talk in this chat

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no problems will come from this

drowsy plank
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unironically if u had to talk here first

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would be better

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i joked about also locking sugg voting behind the prompt so only smart people got to vote on them godoftroll
but that was too far so we didnt even consider it

worldly sparrow
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i was gonna say that people would treat this like cmt just to get messages

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but like

sick belfry
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you need an approved role to do suggestions, could work

worldly sparrow
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its legit better than the current system

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you need to actually read the rules to do suggestions

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how we'd do that? the famous password to unlock channel trick

sick belfry
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like idk a role given to people that aren't breaking rules or being a dick overall

worldly sparrow
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there should legit be a sugg ban

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most give up after 1 flagged sugg but some keep going

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with more bad ones

wide river
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Suggestion bans seem a bit far

sick belfry
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like idk ig I mod would need to give them out, or maybe a chat that lets people ask for the role (chat now showing other people's messages so it doesn't become a cmt)

worldly sparrow
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im just putting dumb ideas at this point but what if active suggestors had their own sugg channel

sick belfry
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like they can ignore or even mute maybe ban is someone keeps spamming their to get a suggestion. but ik it isn't a full proof plan

wide river
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A lot of the ideas here are involving of just gatekeeping the channel

worldly sparrow
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yeah ._.

hollow shell
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I'm sorry, what's the issue that we're trying to solve, exactly?

sick belfry
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bad suggestions that break rules I think

worldly sparrow
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we just tryna think of a way to improve the current sugg system

sick belfry
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or are constantly said when it doesn't need to

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like rename blank by 250 different people clueless

hollow shell
glass arch
sick belfry
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ik

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some think it is

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but the same rename

worldly sparrow
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they arent horrible

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most of the time

sick belfry
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like more then one asking for a rename of the same thing

worldly sparrow
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the one asking to rename providence is dumb and stupid

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it contradicts lore for the sake of sounding cool(er)

glass arch
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it

hollow shell
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Then don't star it

glass arch
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literally doesnt contradict lore

worldly sparrow
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removing "the" kinda implies there's multiple

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though i dont grammar

wide river
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Not really

neat linden
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it doesn't

coral carbon
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it doesn't really

glass arch
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yharon and scal do the same thing

sick belfry
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it doesn't, like you can say hades god of the underworld instead of hades the god of the underworld

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still can mean one for a god

glass arch
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ultimately

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if it gets shot down by devs or doesnt make it into dev it doesnt really matter

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theres already so many suggs this voting period that we're gonna get a good amount that go to dev

worldly sparrow
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but like, the current sugg system is pretty flawed with quality suggs often being pushed out of the top 20% because of incredibly small changes that 99% of people will never notice, ever

glass arch
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and

worldly sparrow
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but thats just a problem with how suggs like the latter often dont have downsides

glass arch
worldly sparrow
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quality is subjective at the end of the day

glass arch
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yes

hollow shell
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Small changes are both easier to agree with and easier to implement

Big sweeping changes are going to be more controversial, divisive

glass arch
# glass arch yes

however saying quality suggs get pushed out of the top 20% implies very strongly that you dont think the smaller changes have quality to them

worldly sparrow
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i am biased as fuck

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toward larger suggs

crude geode
halcyon zealot
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@left hawk beautiful sugg prayge

wide river
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Even Ravager itself

sleek turret
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this mod is controversial

north oracle
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Now this one is a good sugg

sleek turret
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yeah this one is good

halcyon zealot
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hopefully the fix isn't complicated

glass arch
#

wait what the debuff indicators are cal????

coral carbon
glass arch
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i thought those were fargos

halcyon zealot
drowsy plank
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@left hawk calamity doesnt have debuff indicators

timber temple
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cant you move the stealth bar anyways?

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just like rippers

halcyon zealot
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The issue he's describing doesn't involve that

glass arch
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moving it around doesnt fix the issue of it being a static element that isnt locked to the player

eager bobcat
left hawk
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Let me update my suggestion real quick

drowsy plank
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huh

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wacky

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i think i do remember seeing them actually but yeah the player ones are fargos

sleek turret
#

hyperlinks format is (name of the hyperlink)[URL] right?

wide river
sleek turret
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thanks!!

wide river
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👍

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If you want the link to not embed, you can add <> around it within the parentheses

sleek turret
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ye i'm doing that

wide river
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Note: Don't use that in the title, the bot doesn't like it

cobalt pewter
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interesting

sleek turret
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wait the bot doesn't allow hyperlinks?

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huh

novel belfry
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yeah remove the hyperlinks in the title asap

wide river
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Only in the title

novel belfry
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its otherwise a really good sugg

wide river
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The ones in the suggestion base are fine

sleek turret
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i also wanted to come up with another sugg about uhh making voodoo demon voodoo doll use demonic bone ash but i want to hear y'all opinions on the idea first

wide river
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Hit enter too early I take it

bronze tendon
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I fixed it.

marble moat
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backread a lil of the conversation on reworking sugg posting and if the problem is that small suggs gain more engagement and push out larger suggs that by nature gain less votes, why not add the ability to tag suggs as "small" "medium" "large" and have a select number of each category get pushed at the end of the period

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it aint a perfect solution but it helps curb the problem of stuff like this happening

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where a suggestion obviously has engagement but isnt pushed

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and if too many people get suggs exclam'd because they aren't following the rules, isn't it possible to just make it so that to access the suggestions posting channel, you have to read through the channel rules or smth

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anyways back to lurking have fun yall

worldly sparrow
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if this were added, 18 whole seconds would be added to each attempt

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maybe it could only play for the first attempt then afterwards it'd be how it is currently?

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because imagine nohitting scal but every attempt now has 18 seconds of waiting before the fight

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that'd be well over an hour of intro waiting

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having the intro play the first attempt would work

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the second and so on, not so much

orchid briar
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Or add functionality to click on the altar again to skip the intro like with the Old One's Army crystal

quiet kernel
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Actually thats smart

deft yew
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you could just cut down on it

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like only use the last 3? seconds

drowsy plank
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that would also work

worldly sparrow
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yeah, the full intro is too long

cobalt pewter
#

like this?

deft yew
#

precisely

cobalt heath
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isn't the speech copyrighted

cobalt pewter
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whuh

cobalt heath
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yeah wasn't the old issue with adding the prologue

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that

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it had copyright issues

sand marlin
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They're not talking about the speech

cobalt pewter
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yeah

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it's about the intro tunes before the first part of the song

cobalt heath
#

ooh

cobalt pewter
#

GP's vid does that there

untold tusk
north oracle
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@hidden swan put in more reasoning for why this should be added and less specifically describing the items you want added (which is a suggestion don’t)

dense ferry
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I think that's completely unnecessary

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It's not like you need MORE mining power Post ML

narrow sandal
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yea

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mining at all in hardmode is incredibly easy and quick with how fast ur tools work, especially in cal

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and if ur post ML, you really need to clear a HUGE area and the blossom pickaxe is SOMEHOW too slow for you, install cheat sheet

small timber
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can't you just use reaver armor? especially at post-ML

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or at post-ML drill containment unit, at if start of HM you can just slap on the mining accessories and it will probably be good enough

narrow sandal
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the DCU sucks ass

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onyx excavator is based af

stable kiln
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thats so extremely unnecessary

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you can get max mining speed in like pre hardmode

small timber
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I havent check on it, don't the mining speed nerf make it harder?

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or with everything max mining speed is still pretty easy?

stable kiln
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even if its harder, you have mining armor + ancient chisel + mining pot + well fed

small timber
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and ya there is also like another better mining speed tool in post-Plantera

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it is called rocket launcher
or its even stronger sibling p90 mortar round

narrow sandal
stable kiln
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i'll just flag this, no reason to let it through because it doesnt even really make sense

small timber
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the concept make sense as a QOL, just it completely ignore other mining tools available

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most notably reaver armor
or just, you know, rocket launcher

cobalt pewter
#

(why is Sandslasher so jank)

crude geode
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bc it’s a rogue weapon duh

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Rogue always gets janky shit just look at their defining characteristic, stealth strikes

hollow shell
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"inches" isn't the correct distance measure unit iirc

narrow sandal
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blocks?

crude geode
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Isn’t it like feet or meters

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Or blocks yeah

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Also blocks is oftentimes hard to understand so just use like screen (half screen/full screen) measurements

hollow shell
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1 block = 2 feet

cobalt pewter
#

oh wait

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what's the measurement used in Compass?

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feet?

hollow shell
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yeah

cobalt pewter
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I think I might be a lil dumb

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okay editing that in

hollow shell
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👍

crude geode
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I kinda dislike the argument about tiles getting in the way tbfh

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When it feels like half the weapons in calamity blatantly ignore tiles

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But that may just be a me thing

tired haven
#

There are certainly valid cases for both
When a projectile hitbox is bigger than ~1 tile, you will commonly hit stuff you didn't want to. And calamity loves big projectiles
But at the same time, in comparison to vanilla's rather scarce tile phasing weapons, cal feels more like a coin flip at this point

crude geode
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Literally

lapis charm
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you guys should make it so that infernum slime god doesnt despawn 2 centimeters away from you

deft yew
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infernum is not calamity

drowsy plank
lapis charm
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leave me alone

drowsy plank
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then dont talk here

lapis charm
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leave me alone

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🤢

drowsy plank
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strange critter fr

deft yew
lapis charm
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k

lapis charm
drowsy plank
lapis charm
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then stop answering back

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leave me alone 🤮

deft yew
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this sure is a discussion about a suggestion isn't it

drowsy plank
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truly

lapis charm
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lets talk about the cutscene suggestion

drowsy plank
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im starting to think this is just a troll or something

lapis charm
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bro is clueless

stark thorn
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no I am 😃

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(Sorry I had to)

drowsy plank
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lol

deft yew
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honestly quite

hollow ridge
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@merry sentinel 😐

coral carbon
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😐

merry sentinel
coral carbon
fervent orbit
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@drowsy plank

merry sentinel
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Give a good reason as to why not

hollow ridge
fervent orbit
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because it isnt our mod

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dumbass

hollow ridge
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Not calamity

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And also toasty wouldn't allow it

merry sentinel
coral carbon
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bro

merry sentinel
coral carbon
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just going in one ear out the other

glass arch
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the creator specifically left the caldev team

merry sentinel
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K

north oracle
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…have you seen how Infernum is a totally different thing in terms of how the ais work
It wouldn’t fit into the main mod at all lol

hollow ridge
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Better off deleting the sugg too iirc

merry sentinel
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Fair

merry sentinel
hollow ridge
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🐌

merry sentinel
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Just wanted to know why it wasn’t possible but that’s fair

coral carbon
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🐌

hollow ridge
merry sentinel
deft yew
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it's not about whether it fits

north oracle
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True

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But there is no situation in which cal could add it, even if there wasn’t other drama

drowsy plank
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lol missed this

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was playing terracraft

worldly sparrow
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i also missed it

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was watching too many cat videos

deft yew
robust cove
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what is it capable of? you're scaring me

fervent orbit
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why do you think he stopped talking

drowsy plank
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truly the funniest parasite on the planet

worldly sparrow
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and its completely harmless

deft yew
worldly sparrow
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im just gonna choose to ignore that

wide river
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This is one of the suggestions discussions of all time

deft yew
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truly

fervent orbit
worldly sparrow
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yeah

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someone suggested to add toxoplasma gondii to calamity so thats why we're talking about it

lavish condor
# deft yew

the parasite telling me to change my political view
me listening to the parasite

worldly sparrow
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its deleted so dont check for yourself

hollow ridge
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Also

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rip iirc

deft yew
crude geode
# hollow ridge

@inland saddle the bot doesn’t seem to like the new links in words (see above), anything we can do about that

inland saddle
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Unfortunately not for suggestion titles, should still work for the actual body though

crude geode
grave zincBOT
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@wide river - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rename "The Dragonfolly" to "Dragonfolly"]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

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@hybrid steeple - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove the "A" from "A Desert Nuisance"s name]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

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@grizzled dome - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rename the Rune of Kos]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

north oracle
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Nice

worldly sparrow
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truly a few of the rename suggs of all time

north oracle
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Not the worst, not the best

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At least they make sense

worldly sparrow
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yeah

grizzled dome
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...I am having serious deja vu. I thought this had already happened? ...no, that was for them being delivered to the devs in the first place.

worldly sparrow
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rune of kos actually shouldn't exist though

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it'll take the devs a while to replace it so a rename will have to do

grizzled dome
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that was basically what I was told when I was asked about it: "it'll get replaced but future events shouldn't be considered when writing suggestions for current changes".

grave zincBOT
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@chilly osprey - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add a meter that shows flight time remaining while flying.]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

grizzled dome
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I do feel a little bad that mine passed and in doing so forced out another more meaningful suggestion, though.

ashen warren
chilly osprey
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ty cal team 🙂

gritty plaza
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How does a terraria mod have better suggestions implementation than mknecraft?

north oracle
worldly sparrow
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console, mobile, pc, all that shit

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calamity mobile is coming never™️

gritty plaza
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  • modded mobile is coming never
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Me when suddenly bullet point

worldly sparrow
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you can actually mod vanilla on pc

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tmod isnt actually required, it's just that it needs a much, much more elaborate setup to mod vanilla

gritty plaza
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Also like wtf is Modding Minecraft in general?

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Download sussy jar files

worldly sparrow
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have you seen the latest one?

gritty plaza
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Yes

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Doesn't need to download to steal everything

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Like how is security SO BAD

sleek turret
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tech mod number variable (it can be x, y or z, choose one)

gritty plaza
#

W

fervent orbit
gritty plaza
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HOW

fervent orbit
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modrinth on top forever!

gritty plaza
#

*terraria on top

hybrid steeple
oblique geyser
ripe owl
odd geyser
#

Calamity per telefono

grave zincBOT
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@wide river - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rename "The Dragonfolly" to "Dragonfolly"]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

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@hybrid steeple - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove the "A" from "A Desert Nuisance"s name]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

wide river
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Cool cool

north oracle
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Makes sense

odd geyser
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The renaming

ornate kestrel
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I'm happy with these minor changes

sleek turret
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minor changes are (mostly) always nice

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they generally don't cause too much discussion so i like to suggest them because of that

glass arch
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i suggest small changes because they're both easy to suggest and can typically make it to dev

oblique geyser
#

Enhance the Multiplayer Experience

As the Calamity Mod gains popularity among Terraria players, improving the multiplayer experience could be a significant enhancement. Implementing better synchronization for events, bosses, and world progression would create a more seamless cooperative gameplay environment. Additionally, optimizing server performance and minimizing latency issues would ensure that players can enjoy the mod's content smoothly when playing with friends or other players online.

crude geode
distant gyro
#

among

oblique geyser
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Among is not the funny here

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Someone please find the funny though

crude geode
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the funny is you

wide river
#

Comedy

oblique geyser
sleek turret
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srs though I rlly like it

grim tusk
oblique geyser
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Nobody has identified the funny with the suggestion yet wires

sleek turret
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joke sugg concept where the idea is actually good but every word is an hyperlink to it's definition on the dictionary

lavish condor
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Incorporate hover capability into late-game wings

Hovering is a vanilla mechanic where certain wings allow you to hold down+jump to retain your vertical position. In vanilla, several wings have this mechanic.
In order of progression:
-Certain dev wings (technically post-mech1, hard to get)
-Hoverboard (Post-Plantera)
-Betsy's wings (Post-Golem)
-Vortex/Nebula Mantle (Post-Moon Lord)
-Celestial Starboard (Post-Moon Lord)
Vanilla spreads this ability out over the tiers of Hardmode progression. If you want wings with hover, you have options at just about every stage that you have wings.

Calamity has a lack of wings with this mechanic, the only set being the Hadarian Wings, which drop from an obscure Astral Infection enemy post-Aureus and compete with the hoverboard. Most crucially, Calamity adds no hover wings in its post-ml wing progression, meaning that once starboard becomes outdated, you have no hover wings for the rest of the game.
Hovering is a great ability that adds a dynamic to wing movement that you don't get with just raw stat increases. Its even spread through the game cuts off abruptly post-Providence, which is tragic as it is fun to use once you get used to it.
Adding hover capabilities to existing wings or adding new wings with hover capabilities would spruce up wing variety post-ml, and allow more wings to be good without increasing their flight stats.

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How's this sugg

grave zincBOT
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@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Most Hardmode Yoyos More Agile and Have Infinite Duration]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

lavish condor
wide river
crude geode
wide river
oblique geyser
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The funny is that it's written by ChatGPT XD

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I fed it the past 15 suggestions and told it to write a new one and this is what it came up with

distant gyro
#

honestly there's too many hover wings

north oracle
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LMAO

north oracle
sleek turret
sand marlin
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Starboard existing at all makes hover too op

distant gyro
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makes them less special

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once post plant breaks it's just half hoverable

wide river
oblique geyser
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None of the suggestions I used even mention it

north oracle
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Exactly, there hasn’t been a multiplayer sugg in ages

sand marlin
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Starboard and Betsy's should retain hover worst case scenario because those are hella competent with their hover

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Hadarian's hover is damn weak tho

oblique geyser
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This is the prompt I used

Screenshot_20230812-230113.png
north oracle
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Ask it for a suggestion in that format about buffing rampart of deities

cobalt pewter
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but I agree

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hovering is cool and I hate how underused it is

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honestly the Tracers could be cool with hover

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skywalking

lavish condor
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I'm imagining like zelda hover boots

oblique geyser
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It's not gonna know what a Rampart of Deities is

wide river
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At least it's a valid suggestion in any case

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It's not exclaimable anyway

cobalt pewter
oblique geyser
cobalt pewter
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Hoverboard, Starboard and Betsy have alright hovers

sleek turret
#

the only complain i have with the sugg is like good formating (even though it's alright)

lavish condor
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wdym good formatting?

oblique geyser
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I need to refine the prompt because idk if it's actually taking in any input from the suggs

sleek turret
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uhh not necesary but to highlight more, use **text** in the title to highlight the main point of your sugg by making it use bold letters

lavish condor
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I bolded the title

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It somehow lost the bold when I copy-pasted

cobalt pewter
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not every wings need hover, but having a few throughout the rest of the mod would be nice, y'know

sleek turret
#

Hyperlinks can be used as well to the items you're talking about (like Vanilla dev wings for example)

lavish condor
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vanilla wiki doesn't have pages for the separate wings it's all one wings page

sleek turret
#

sucks

lavish condor
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except hoverboard for some reason

crude geode
#

Clearly they’re mocking cal for not having godslayer hoverboard

sleek turret
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waiting for godslayer hoverboard ser como

cobalt pewter
#

god slayer hoverboard is The elusive item

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still with zero sprites submitted

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(I think)

sleek turret
#

there are sprites submitted afaik

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just rejected

crude geode
#

There literally was a contest regarding it and they said “nah”

wide river
#

A good few people submitted sprites but all were rejected
I know someone who's trying to make one themself, if even to get people to get back on it

sand marlin
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They are super fast

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At their stage

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Betsy kinda deserves it

frosty trellis
#

Starboard hover can't be cracked if the dash bug still exists 🛌

sand marlin
#

And starboard is very hard to use without the hover and boosts

lavish condor
#

starboard's also expert-exclusive in vanilla. It's kinda just the "You beat the final boss on hard mode here's cool wings"

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makes sense that it's fast

sand marlin
#

Right now I bet I could probably use it on current Inf night Prov and it would be just as fine

sand marlin
#

Things that are meant to be broken for being post ML

worldly sparrow
lavish condor
#

Should I reword "which drop from an obscure Astral Infection enemy post-Aureus and compete with the hoverboard" to "which suck" for conciseness?

worldly sparrow
#

both are kinda true

sand marlin
#

I think I used to get Hadarian wings always when I got to that stage but after getting used to Aureate I realized it's just Hadarian but with slightly less speed and much more flight time so it wasn't worth using Hadarian anymore

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Hadarian needs to kinda change regarding that

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That low a flight time is probably too much

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Since it can't even reach max speed without expending a good amount of its flight time

cobalt pewter
#

expert only I mean

lavish condor
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yeah it probably isn't

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I was justifying it being op in vanilla

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oh crap it embedded when I tried to add links

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do I just press the X next to them?

wide river
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You can add <> around the link to remove the embed

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It needs to be within the parentheses though

cobalt pewter
lavish condor
#

yeah figured it out

small timber
#

[normal message](virus link)

#

I love discord's new features

lavish condor
#

it tells you the link you're going to before it redirects

cobalt pewter
#

it always does that now yes, so if you proceed anyways it's completely your fault

lavish condor
#

I guess you could go {google.com}(virus link) but if the person clicking that reads the big text block they won't fall for that

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and if they don't they had it coming

grim tusk
cobalt pewter
#

indeed

oblique geyser
#

Virus link my beloved

worldly sparrow
#

i feel like suggesting something

#

suggested something

fleet flume
#

Ancient stuff here

#

Look at this ancient history!

fleet flume
#

Wow. Has a volcano exploded? What happened to make the server so silent?

cobalt pewter
#

please shut the fuck up, thanks

fleet flume
#

I've been silent for half an hour.

finite smelt
#

yet now you're talking again.

coral carbon
#

saying "byuh wow so crazy so slient chat dead XD!" adds nothing

narrow sandal
#

just makes it more dead

#

also this isnt general or CMT, so dont bother trying to revive chat, it will get up on its own

fleet flume
#

We know what happened last time someone tried to revive [another]. I'll stop.

rugged juniper
#

How much stars does a suggestion need to pass through

ashen warren
#

i think just "add a border" should be good

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a fire border could count as a sis

#

not sure though

ashen warren
#

iirc it was 200 but then they lowered it because nothing was going through

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or maybe the other way round

halcyon zealot
undone holly
sand marlin
#

Describing the border too much still counts as specific and the details should be left to devs

cobalt pewter
#

just adapt remix hell worldgen to all seeds

cobalt heath
#

I am suprised this hasn't been suggested more

golden sonnet
#

Tbh 1.4.4 kinda already does this with ash trees at the sides of hell

deft yew
#

It hardly changes the landforms at all though

cobalt heath
#

yeah and saying that is enough space for providence

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for example

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is just mad

#

the boss I think needs it the most is for providence

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cus that takes legit half a hour for 1 boss

#

pull the quote yes but still annoying

acoustic thunder
stable kiln
#

azafure exists, do you really need a more open space than that

rugged juniper
small timber
#

you only need a large area for wall of flesh yeah (which the suggestion say to disregard), arguably providence but providence can also be fought in hallow

#

did providence have their biome enrage removed this patch? so you can just spawn it hallow mode

stable kiln
#

she did yes

drowsy plank
#

unless you want to do moonlight (which i do lmao) you'll have to fight her in hell at some point tho

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same with signus

small timber
#

doing providence with post-providence gear feels a lot easier than pre-providence, but yeah I guess that make sense

glass arch
#

thats probably because it is easier

small timber
#

on a different note I think the different biome thing will be removed at some point right after the lore rework/profaned biome or something similar?

quiet kernel
#

I mean if provi is gonna be moved into the profaned biome it just makes sense

drowsy plank
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yeah whenever we finally get it lol

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signus will prolly be moved as well at some point

cobalt heath
#

that's the biggest counter argument to this imo

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that they will get their arenas at some point in other places

buoyant idol
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Change the Phaseslayer's spinning to be based off of Movement speed instead of mouse speed

The Phaseslayer is a visually interesting weapon with the arguably one of the most unique forms of attack. However, said form of attack is what utterly fails the weapon. The damage and ability to form projectiles is based on spin speed, scaling up to 6 complete rotations around the character per second for max damage. This may seem ok on paper, but many players and testers have gotten severe wrist pain from using this weapons, not to mention such a form of attack is much too distracting. This firmly places the weapon in -F tier, since it hurts the user and does relatively poor damage that'd place it more towards something you'd use against Polterghast. For reference, this weapon is a post DoG weapon.

To fix it, spinning could be based on movement speed. Higher speeds would boost the damage more, incentivizing movement speed based builds and forms of movement that wouldn't be used otherwise such as the Portal Gun. Of course, this would be capped around a certain point to prevent abuse from Hoiks and Wulfrum + Glorious End. This would fix the health hazard and make it into a much more usable weapon without a full scale rework.

Is this too SIS?

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(definitely not inspired from a convo in Balance Suggestions)

wide river
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This firmly places the weapon in -F tier, since it hurts the user and does relatively poor damage that'd place it more towards something you'd use against Polterghast. For reference, this weapon is a post DoG weapon.
I think this point is irrelevant to your issue because simply buffing the weapon could fix it, thus making it a #1042197406776827914 issue
Otherwise I think it should be fine

cobalt pewter
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Momentum Capacitor walks in

coral carbon
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Capacitor cant be used during boss fights

cobalt pewter
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but yeah anything to majorly

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change the current phaseslayer would be nice

buoyant idol
coral carbon
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yeah can confirm using the phaseslayer gives you a real life debuff

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although my pre-existing gamer wrist™️ from playing payday 2 so much at the start of the year probably didnt help

buoyant idol
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I think my pinky is busted from ULTRAKILL thanks to crtl being slide and slam.

deft yew
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I would keep the cursor swinging gimmick at base, but seriously change how it actually works

cobalt pewter
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wiggle

sleek turret
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hand cramps aren't peak weapon design

deft yew
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Like if you swing the cursor hard enough, the weapon automatically does a big, powerful swing and fires a wave slash

fervent orbit
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insert cits image

sleek turret
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same with carpal tunnel

deft yew
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This has a bit of a cooldown

cobalt pewter
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so velocity?

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hm

deft yew
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So you still control it with the cursor but you’re not forced to move it constantly

cobalt pewter
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I assume doing specific gestures instead of spinning could be good

sleek turret
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i was thinking abt it lately of phaseslayer having like a bar that goes up and down and you have to time the click correctly so that you can do 100% of the damage the weapon gives

deft yew
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Flick the cursor outwards and get a dash

coral carbon
deft yew
sleek turret
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yeah kinda how thorium handles rhythmic weapons

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although my brain is suggesting to also implement a mechanic from papa's freezeria (??????) to the alredy made concept

deft yew
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Would be cool on a weapon, but I don’t think it fits Phaseslayer

sleek turret
worldly sparrow
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phaseslayer lmfao

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anything to buff that thing is needed

novel belfry
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Make Delicious Meat and Blasphemous Donut grant the Exquisitely Stuffed buff instead of Plenty Satisfied

One of these is an utterly unremarkable post-Cryogen food item you can buy off Permafrost that almost sounds like it came from the fandom wiki. The other is an rare drop from Impious Immolators that references the previous donut like shape of the Profaned Guardians. Both of these simply give the Plenty Satisfied buff upon eating.

sleek turret
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i agree with this sugg

novel belfry
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I just feel like I need to write more for this sugg

fervent orbit
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one of the problems is that exq stuffed is alr readily avaible from happy npcs post skeletron, and that the point of these items is to have plenty satisfied for a long time

sleek turret
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golden delight only being crafted with 1 gold critter and having 48mins of exq stuffed

grim tusk
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Gold critters are rare as fuck

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But yea cant you just buy burgers?

buoyant idol
grim tusk
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Change food mechanic to be like DST, not The Constant but actual dont starve

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And have the boost trigger be like Wolfgang’s

sleek turret
fervent orbit
sleek turret
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costs the same as a burger in practice really but gives you more buff time

buoyant idol
sleek turret
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confusing how zoologist sells Steak on hardmode vs other npcs selling exq stuffed food items in pre-hm post skeletron

buoyant idol
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The zoologist selling steak seems like a major issue

sleek turret
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it's ironic tbh

oblique geyser
buoyant idol
# sleek turret it's ironic tbh

I would like to see it no food in shops since the point of food rn is that it’s a small buff you have to go out of your way for.

sleek turret
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i honestly AGREE

buoyant idol
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Suggest then, hopefully the boss rush only terraria players don’t ruin it

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It’s the same thing as potion selling, just a different sprite

sleek turret
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i'm doing research about food items

worldly sparrow
glass arch
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if it had f tier killtimes it would be in unuseable

oblique geyser
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Z Tier is a meme tier

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No serious weapon is going to go in there iirc

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Lacerator is Z tier since the joke is it's not viable godoftroll

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(imo ofc)

glass arch
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unless you're playing gfb

worldly sparrow
glass arch
worldly sparrow
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no way, its viable on dog

glass arch
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iirc its one of the best weapons for gfb dog

sleek turret
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the enemy spawn rate potions and items near my npc houses:

oblique geyser
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So it makes sense to make t3 food more available

buoyant idol
oblique geyser
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And golden delight

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Seafood dinner gave t3 food buff before 1.4.4

glass arch
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rarity shouldnt be an excuse for power

buoyant idol
oblique geyser
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The 1.4.4 change reminds me of Hypixel Skyblock

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Crazy rare stuff that gives a very minor increase

sleek turret
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there should definitely have a food item progression because i find it excessive the first npc you'd usually get and get the happy conditions get the plenty satisfied buff early

oblique geyser
sleek turret
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(merchant npc)

buoyant idol
oblique geyser
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(in calamity)

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In vanilla it's all RNG stuff

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Which is bad

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Seafood dinner should have kept exquisitely stuffed

buoyant idol
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Why is it so bad? Is t3 needed that much?

worldly sparrow
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kinda

sleek turret
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it's more stats

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which is truly something

buoyant idol
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How did we survive in 1.3

fervent orbit
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seafood dinner

worldly sparrow
glass arch
worldly sparrow
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the other 2 tiers didnt exist yet

buoyant idol
glass arch
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no

oblique geyser
buoyant idol
sleek turret
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?????

fervent orbit
glass arch
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its just not worth the effort to farm for stuffed

worldly sparrow
fervent orbit
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we dont take gfb in account anyway

worldly sparrow
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true

buoyant idol
sleek turret
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tbh i'd keep food items if we didn't have the base movement changes in calamity being applied to balance and never existing in first place

glass arch
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stuffed doesnt do enough to warrant spending maybe HOURS grinding fodder enemies to get a sustainable supply of it

buoyant idol
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Buff those rates then instead of putting it in shops

sleek turret
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because
a. Merchant alredy sells you good food early as fuck
b. In my opinion it removes Calamity's Boss Rush stigma thing or whatever is the issue

wide river
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I'm not sure what this argument is about but it seems to be the average suggestions argument

buoyant idol