suggestions-discussion

[buoyant idol]

Still, chaotic in that he makes them

[sleek turret]

yeah cog is lawful good

[worldly sparrow]

ofc

[buoyant idol]

Good man, applied for mod and got it. Well deserved

[worldly sparrow]

i know for certain i am NOT lawful something

[ripe owl]

Could I be Neutral Evil?

[worldly sparrow]

ok but who would be true neutral?

[buoyant idol]

I think (if there’s room, pretty inactive here) I deserve Lawful something

[glass arch]

good question

[ripe owl]

Or at least Impure

[glass arch]

id be somewhere on the evil scale

[buoyant idol]

I think I’m either lawful impure or lawful moral

[golden sonnet]

I think I could be, I'm probably not in the most active users though even if fairly active here

[worldly sparrow]

on one hand the title "social impure" is absolutely perfect for me
on the other hand thats half on the good side of the chart

[buoyant idol]

I guess to determine we should ask what other people know us by

[worldly sparrow]

yeah

we cant trust ourselves

[buoyant idol]

Chaotic evil is people who don’t read the pins

[worldly sparrow]

well yeah what else would it be

[buoyant idol]

Joke suggestioners

[worldly sparrow]

true neutral are people who read the pins

[buoyant idol]

Wait people who argue that their bad sugg is good are chaotic evil

[worldly sparrow]

people who argue with the mods/devs about their sugg

are chaotic evil

[buoyant idol]

Moral neutral I’d say

[worldly sparrow]

fair

[drowsy plank]

EquinoxShark gotta be somewhere in the evil section
man drops the worst suggestion of all time, gets flagged, does not respond to any criticism, and then disappears again

[worldly sparrow]

lmfao

[golden sonnet]

Lmao

[worldly sparrow]

rebel evil

[buoyant idol]

Agreed

Should I belong in Lawful Impure?

[worldly sparrow]

hmm

sure

[buoyant idol]

Devs in general need a spot

[worldly sparrow]

chaotic impure has to go to the guy who suggested a retheming of the sulphurous sea because it wasn't scientifically accurate

[buoyant idol]

Agreed

[distant gyro]

i think you need a couple more suggestions to be on alignment

otherwise place this one

[worldly sparrow]

yeah idk if we have 25 active people

but we def have more than 9

[drowsy plank]

oh finally i can save a copy of this

[buoyant idol]

Make up people

[distant gyro]

<><><><>

[buoyant idol]

People can take 2 spots if need be (ect: in certain subjects I can be chaotic evil)

[worldly sparrow]

why dont we also include balance suggestions

[buoyant idol]

Def

[pine star]

where the hell am I

or am I even there

[buoyant idol]

Chaotic Moral should go to people suggesting railcoins I think, they just want what they see fit

[halcyon zealot]

it doesn't have to be a grid
in personal opinion it shouldn't be a grid

[worldly sparrow]

enchailada has to be lawful something

[halcyon zealot]

have axes and a spectrum

[buoyant idol]

Like the political compass?

[halcyon zealot]

yes

grid is so limiting

[worldly sparrow]

well its not like many people fit into the same category

[buoyant idol]

You can fit more I think

Also it'd be harder to make

[worldly sparrow]

for sure

[halcyon zealot]

na it's

[buoyant idol]

You get Rebel Good for that quote

[halcyon zealot]

easier

[worldly sparrow]

i think alignment charts are easier

[buoyant idol]

More understandable to the average person too

[worldly sparrow]

true

i can barely read a political compass

[halcyon zealot]

dawg

it's the same thing

but continuous instead of discrete

[buoyant idol]

I argue way too much politics so I feel like it could result in a political arguement

[halcyon zealot]

😭

[halcyon zealot]

politics is complicated
the medium of graphics is not

[buoyant idol]

From some perspectives it'd be harder

[buoyant idol]

Me trying to annoy somebody with politics (It's how many positions I took on issues just to be on the opposite side as them)

[halcyon zealot]

[worldly sparrow]

ok so anyways back to the alignment chart

[neat linden]

where would i go :3 (i have posted one suggestion in my lifetime but helped write a second one for someone else)

[worldly sparrow]

you wouldn't be on the chart then

[neat linden]

that and i am considering a suggestion but i don't know how to exactly write it

[halcyon zealot]

purgatory

[neat linden]

oh that's where i already am

[halcyon zealot]

[neat linden]

i'll make a quick draft and ask for opinions because this has been really bugging me for the past few days

[buoyant idol]

Social moral to you then

[worldly sparrow]

ok we cant include literally everyone

we'll get a similar situation with the one in general pins

where nobody knows who anyone is

[buoyant idol]

Didn't realize that

Btw who's keeping track of who's what

[worldly sparrow]

im gonna make a 4x4 chart version of this

(a 4x4 chart is a 5x5 without neutral)

[halcyon zealot]

istg free yourselves

you don't need the grid

evolve

fly

[worldly sparrow]

freedom is hard to read

which is why we dont have it

[buoyant idol]

Reject modernity, return to tradition

[halcyon zealot]

no 😭

[neat linden]

okay i have a very rough draft of my suggestion

and i require opinions

Make Aquatic Scourge's acid mist projectiles more visible.

The acid mist projectiles, while not terribly damaging, can be very irritating to dodge due to how badly visible they are. Not only do they blend in extremely well with the biome's background, especially if the boss is fought during daytime. but their animation makes the problem worse, as they appear quite small for about 30% of their animation, even as far as only having three pixels of size during the animation's last frame.
Making the projectiles stand out more against the background would make it feel more fair to dodge.

i could also attach the actual spritesheet for context

[halcyon zealot]

[buoyant idol]

Great suggestion

[neat linden]

any nitpicks/edits or can I just post as-is, with the spritesheet included

[buoyant idol]

TL;DR might be nice for those who can't read 1 paragraph

[halcyon zealot]

the title is the tldr

[neat linden]

yeah that's the title

i'll post as-is and if any issues arise i'll just edit

[halcyon zealot]

👍

[neat linden]

thank heavens that sprites are public in a google drive

[buoyant idol]

Back to alignment chart issues, has construction started?

[worldly sparrow]

yup

ok where would i be

actually i know

[buoyant idol]

Where am I or am I not on it

[worldly sparrow]

lawful impure

[buoyant idol]

Seems accurate to how I act, thanks

[worldly sparrow]

im either rebel moral or rebel impure i just cant decide

and since this is a 4x4 chart theres no neutral

[buoyant idol]

Moral, I don't think you've done any bad

[worldly sparrow]

ehhhhhhh

well yeah nobody else knows me on a personal level enough to know what bad i did

so sure

[buoyant idol]

Same here, anybody who knows me on a personal level could make an arguement to being lawful evil

[worldly sparrow]

anyone who knows me on an EXTREMELY personal level could make an argument for me being chaotic evil

but alas this is the cal discord

the worst ive done is fuel arguments

[buoyant idol]

I'm mildly manipulative I'd say

[worldly sparrow]

ok so we have 5 spaces left

[buoyant idol]

But I think many of my evils stem from my beliefs

[worldly sparrow]

rebel good, chaotic good, rebel impure, chaotic impure, and lawful evil

[buoyant idol]

Perhaps groups of people in this server like SIS suggest people?

[worldly sparrow]

i know some balance sugg guys that could fit

[buoyant idol]

Put those in first then

How about people who say insert SS tier weapon is bad if you run out?

[worldly sparrow]

im doing exclusively specific people

with the exception of non-pin readers and pin readers

[buoyant idol]

Alright

[worldly sparrow]

suggestions-discussion/balance suggestions alignment chart

[golden sonnet]

What makes me impure

[worldly sparrow]

v1

[golden sonnet]

Is it my urge to delete everything

[worldly sparrow]

yes

[buoyant idol]

Seems accurate

[golden sonnet]

I just think all the pointless and outdated items should die, the items are the impure ones not me smh

[buoyant idol]

Truth

[neat linden]

factual

[buoyant idol]

Are we sure that this is "Chaotic Impure," seems pretty good to me

[deft yew]

I’d be lawful evil because I mostly just want to kill half the mod atp

[worldly sparrow]

good for you

[buoyant idol]

I say I'm Lawful Impure since I'm usually one of the people to immediately attack ❗ suggestions

[worldly sparrow]

you literally are lawful impure in the chart

[neat linden]

i want to obliterate 82.33% of donor items

unfortunately most of these are untouchable

[worldly sparrow]

i want to destroy a solid 20% of weapons

vanilla included

[neat linden]

oh if i could go after vanilla weapons i would obliterate these too

[worldly sparrow]

most vanilla weapons need either a complete rework or a deletion

[golden sonnet]

BASED

[neat linden]

like

why was Trimarang added in 1.4.4

[worldly sparrow]

fr

[neat linden]

what is its purpose

[worldly sparrow]

why does the magnet sphere exist

[neat linden]

it's not even unique it's just there

[worldly sparrow]

has anyone actually used it unironically

[neat linden]

i have actually

it's there

[worldly sparrow]

dont even get me started on the medusa head

[neat linden]

flower of fire / flower of frost

[worldly sparrow]

tome of infinite wisdom shreds destroyer like instantly but why the hell lock it behind ooa?

[neat linden]

blood thorn is very cool but name one person who has used it or has heard of it

[worldly sparrow]

the nettle burst exists

[neat linden]

its main problem got kinda fixed in 1.4.4 so it's viable in vanilla now afaik

[worldly sparrow]

somehow

betsy's wrath only exists to inflict a broken debuff

[neat linden]

Spider staff

It's a staff that summons spiders

[worldly sparrow]

pirahna gun

[neat linden]

What else is there to know about it

[worldly sparrow]

the toxikarp

its a fish

that shoots acid bubbles

ok what reason does the poisoned knife have to exist

[neat linden]

Quad barrel shotgun in question

The weapon died the moment it got moved to post skele

[worldly sparrow]

nah at least quad barrel was good for 10 seconds

[neat linden]

1.4.0.1-1.4.1

[worldly sparrow]

proximity mine launcher try to be useful for 3 seconds challenge

[neat linden]

like look at the hints section in terraria wiki for it

none of these are useful for a post skele weapon

[worldly sparrow]

its not even good at wof anymore

[neat linden]

It has a severe lack of accuracy and low damage

[worldly sparrow]

stake launcher unironically being viable but with the worst ammo to ever exist

[neat linden]

Why would one ever use it

[worldly sparrow]

pulse bow

[neat linden]

Oh god pulse bow

I don't think it's even that bad but like

Why would you ever get it

[worldly sparrow]

tsunami and eventide are almost equal until phantasm walks in

and yet the phantasm sucks against the one thing ahead of it, moon lord

scourge of the corruptor can get buffed 8 times in a row and still be worse than vamp knives

[neat linden]

hard to compete against powerful lifesteal

[worldly sparrow]

like seriously relogic

maybe if you nerfed vamp knives scourge could be a competitor

but relogic doesn't nerf unless its holy arrows

[neat linden]

as honorable mentions i'd like to bring up the entire roster of swords

[worldly sparrow]

specifically the true melee ones, right?

[neat linden]

yeah

especially some of the crossover ones

i get adding a bunch of DST content for crossover

but did we really need some random broadswords as drops

[worldly sparrow]

deerclops as a whole just needs to be deleted

[neat linden]

the crossover was great in theory

in practice, uh

deerclops sucks, most weapons suck

[worldly sparrow]

the terraria x kfc collab could've been good

[neat linden]

the seed uh i don't know

it's forgettable

[worldly sparrow]

but there was no additions to the game in the kfc collab

[neat linden]

barely anyone remembers it

[sick belfry]

don't starve did the crossover better

[worldly sparrow]

i really hope that the dead cells crossover does it better

[neat linden]

from what i've heard from my friend who is an avid don't starve player, this is true

[neat linden]

i'm genuinely worried tbf

if the don't starve one was mostly bad

[sick belfry]

i got this from my don't starve bro and seeing gameplay

it gave a great weapon and some cool stuff

I think the problem with deerclop is DS limited weaponary that isn't just melee

and most of those are just swing

I think the only real ranged weapons were slingshot and the gun.

[swift wharf]

Rookie numbers

[rich grail]

I'd rather have more dps than life steal tbh

[rich grail]

It's too annoying to obtain tbh

[drowsy plank]

tbqh why isnt it just like

the first half of the sheet lmao

[swift wharf]

idk

the last sprite is funny as fuck

[drowsy plank]

3 green pixels when i

[tawdry arch]

What removed items should be added back?

[swift wharf]

none

[tawdry arch]

No bloody edge? No Exo Gladius?

[swift wharf]

No

[tawdry arch]

Why not?

[swift wharf]

Boring/Identity-less items

[fervent orbit]

they were removed for a reason

[swift wharf]

And also suggestion rules

[worldly sparrow]

i do wish coldheart was still with us tho...

[sick belfry]

a funny weapon, killing AEW post cryo

[fervent orbit]

im going to add back coldheart when i become i dev ||and make it completely useless||

[weary bane]

+2% health on hit (for the enemy, not you)

[sick belfry]

summons a cryogen on hit

[worldly sparrow]

coldheart when hotbrain walks in

[sick belfry]

roomtemplungs rolls up

[weary bane]

warmbowels enters

[wide river]

Honestly mine seems about right

[fervent orbit]

wtfff where me

[golden sonnet]

Not real

[fervent orbit]

[north oracle]

Sounds about right

[fervent orbit]

pusheen forgot about me im gonna make a formal complaint

[worldly sparrow]

oh shit not a formal complaint

[fervent orbit]

uhhmm uhh

ur a meanie for forgetting me

thats my formal complaint

[worldly sparrow]

[fervent orbit]

remember me next time ok :c

[worldly sparrow]

dw i specified v1

which means i can legally make a v2

[bright crag]

Xeroc when I show them this funny stabby icicle

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/767950470874398720/956000393773604874/E7cOxZZWQAE_I3C.gif

[pine star]

get a friend on the world, enable pvp, and then get them to start stabbing you over and over and over

[worldly sparrow]

v2 made (legally)

[swift wharf]

put me in chaotic evil

i want half of this game gone

[wide river]

Judging by the past stuff you've said I think you want everything that isn't Starlight River gone

[swift wharf]

that is correct

[ashen warren]

There’s pins?

[worldly sparrow]

no room

unless i make 5x5

[swift wharf]

you'd need to add 9 more ppl

[wide river]

That one person who made the Chaos Elemental suggestion should be one of them

[worldly sparrow]

which one

[swift wharf]

improve chaos elemental ai?

or did it pass

[worldly sparrow]

i never saw that one

can send picture of message?

[wide river]

If I can pull it up, I'll show it

[worldly sparrow]

cool ty

[crude geode]

Truly one of the suggs of all time

[crude geode]

Based amber

[worldly sparrow]

ah, a satire

[swift wharf]

HUH

oh that

the sheer size of it reminded me of the "add a new game+" suggestion

[worldly sparrow]

lmfao

[wide river]

I think I remember that one too

[swift wharf]

hello please borderlands 2 the entire game

we need 30 subworlds 50 raid bosses 2000+ weapons

[worldly sparrow]

god imagine a raidboss in terraria

[swift wharf]

Yharim the Invincible

[worldly sparrow]

actually upon further thought a terraria raidboss isnt a bad idea

just not a good one

[swift wharf]

would be wack

[worldly sparrow]

balancing hell

[swift wharf]

100 million hp boss

10 ppl fighting it

[worldly sparrow]

xeroc in multiplayer be like:

[wide river]

That sounds familiar

[swift wharf]

trimming that healthbar with nail clippers

[crude geode]

devs pls add nail clippers as a weapon pls and thank you

[worldly sparrow]

it would be funny if in multiplayer xeroc upon summoned is like "aw hell naw they ganging up on me 💀"

exact quote

[swift wharf]

me and 9 other players wasting 20 minutes fighting xeroc for it to drop common xeroc blade

[worldly sparrow]

he just drops a bigger rock

[sleek turret]

he drops bigger rock to make the bigger noxus spawn item 🤫

[swift wharf]

he drops bigger rock so you can farm xeroc more

[deft yew]

projectile broadsword ladies and gentlemen

[sleek turret]

peak weapon design

[worldly sparrow]

ermm achtually, noxus is supposed to be fought BEFORE xeroc 🤓 🤓

[crude geode]

Aw hell nah xeroc dropped the xeroc blade with only 90% dr 💀 💀

[deft yew]

nah you don't get it, each bigger one drops an even bigger rock and creates an infinite loop of fighting bigger and bigger noxuses and xerocs

give it a few rounds, noxus will be taller than a giant redwood

[sleek turret]

noxus will come out of your pc and ask for an irl rock

[worldly sparrow]

to defeat xeroc and not draw him you have to throw an irl rock at him

[swift wharf]

no draedon grip and yharim hilt

i wanted the 94%

[worldly sparrow]

me and the bois rolling up to xeroc only to end up getting 4th, 5th, and 6th place in damage (only the top 3 get the good loot)

[crude geode]

When are we getting a copypasta about UI features

[worldly sparrow]

"why extra hearts should be added to the health bar after consuming blood orange/miracle fruit/elderberry/dragonfruit"

[deft yew]

i'll give him a demon core

[sleek turret]

demon core
not a demon inside the core

[worldly sparrow]

ok so alignment chart

it has been transferred to 5x5

just missing people

[deft yew]

i'll take neutral evil for 1200, please

[worldly sparrow]

alright

[sleek turret]

swap chaotic evil with neutral evil tbh

i'll take personally chaotic neutral

[wide river]

Put EquinoxShark in Chaotic Evil because they don't read pins even after being told to

[worldly sparrow]

actually ill swap rebel evil and chaotic evil

ah

the regular nerf old duke sugg

🥱

[wide river]

Me when the pre-DoG gear isn't used after DoG

[worldly sparrow]

7 remaining

[wide river]

(God this is annoying to ping because of the blank name)

[worldly sparrow]

ill do it for ya

@dense plank

[pine star]

why the hell is Eclipse in chaotic evil

even worse than the people that don't read pins

[worldly sparrow]

man wants to delete the majority of everything

also he wanted chaotic evil

[pine star]

oh

[buoyant idol]

We need to add SIS to it

[dense plank]

yeah?

[swift wharf]

i think old duke is meant to be harder

because optional boss and all that

[worldly sparrow]

yeah old duke is meant to be hard

[dense plank]

but the loot feels underpowered

[wide river]

Going from the top, there's not much reasoning present here, so you need to fix that
Next up, the entire argument seems to be based around balancing, which (for weapons) should be directed towards #1042197406776827914
Then, why should Old Duke be post-DoG? Why does that make sense? You need to convince people that your proposed solution is a good idea, and right now it doesn't

[worldly sparrow]

trust me, it's perfectly viable

[swift wharf]

if the loot isn't that good, #1042197406776827914

[drowsy plank]

funny sugg

also terraria raid bosses is just thorium

[worldly sparrow]

lmfao

[wide river]

So true

[swift wharf]

I wouldn't mind having old duke drops be viable against yharon
but 1. would become too good for dog
2. post dog weapon quantity

[sleek turret]

TRUE

[wide river]

Post-DoG when at least 60 weapons

[buoyant idol]

Add more weapons to post DOG, I foresee no issues

[sleek turret]

more weapons to kill

[worldly sparrow]

re-tier old duke to post-dog

problem solved

[dense plank]

so i may have forgotten how much post dog stuff there was

[swift wharf]

but od is kinda weird don't worry too much

[frosty trellis]

Define chaotic moral for me I'm curious

[sleek turret]

there's a lot of weapons post dog

[drowsy plank]

just pull an anomaly's where you're mediocre for your on tier boss and completely busted on the tier afterwards

[swift wharf]

balancing nerd...

[worldly sparrow]

its because of all those tank builds and the fact that balancing nerd

[swift wharf]

PFT i was kidding

[buoyant idol]

Your tank builds are too much for this world

[worldly sparrow]

nah its valid

[wide river]

Cadaverous Carrion viable on Yharon

[swift wharf]

tanking isn't viable wdym

[drowsy plank]

the Funny

[frosty trellis]

Fair

[frosty trellis]

I hate this so much

[drowsy plank]

it's gonna be so great when half of these items are dead and/or resprited

[pine star]

may I see an example of one of your tank builds?

[drowsy plank]

we already have the potions

[worldly sparrow]

☠️

[buoyant idol]

Mpg send the facetanking exos

[wide river]

It lacks Celestial Shell so it's immediately bad

[dense plank]

wait someone can facetank exo mechs?

[halcyon zealot]

😭 please release yourself from the limits of the grid

[worldly sparrow]

yeah lmao

[worldly sparrow]

still no

[wide river]

Yes
None other than our very own MPG

[worldly sparrow]

harder to make, harder to read

[frosty trellis]

In action or the build itself bc I only have the former in video I don't have the builds on me specifically

[sleek turret]

use the tierlistmaker alignment chart function

[worldly sparrow]

end of story

[sleek turret]

it's not limiting

[halcyon zealot]

like three times in a row you have run into issues with it

[pine star]

the build itself

[dense plank]

speaking of exo mechs, i misread their health and thought they had like 300k total health

[frosty trellis]

Teehee

[halcyon zealot]

how
legit demonstrably false

don't even need boxes, just drag and drop bro

it's just the same thing, just continuous instead of discrete

[worldly sparrow]

plotting people on a graph is considerably harder than inserting people into one of a bunch of boxes

[sleek turret]

jesus christ lmao

[dense plank]

wha-how

[halcyon zealot]

what graph ? 💀

[worldly sparrow]

the political compass is quite similar to a graph

[deft yew]

there is one big issue i do actually have with OD in terms of fight

[frosty trellis]

I have a slight amount of power

[north oracle]

Don’t nerf OD, he already dies in 2 rest phases
Remove the rest phases, then he can be nerfed

[deft yew]

you know the improvements made to tooth visibility?

they accomplish like nothing

what are the improvements anyway, the only one i've noticed is they emit glowing dust

[halcyon zealot]

both the discrete and continuous versions are graphs?

just discrete

and continuous

[dense plank]

he was able to kill me while i had full demonshade on

[halcyon zealot]

only difference

[north oracle]

Most bosses are capable of killing you while you have full demonshade on

[dense plank]

not if they're being photoeviscerated

[worldly sparrow]

old duke has a lotta health

[north oracle]

And a lot of DR and defence which all goes away every 10 attacks

[halcyon zealot]

well then with a grid arrangement, how are you going to

fit people in appropriately (number and slots)
communicate overlap (which there is plenty)
communicate nuance in difference

without having to bend shit awkwardly

[worldly sparrow]

sir this is an alignment chart

bending shit awkwardly is kinda required

[dense plank]

what?

[halcyon zealot]

this is infographics, and I am invested in that shit

[wide river]

Defense Damage is a very real mechanic

[worldly sparrow]

cool, well this is patrick

[halcyon zealot]

[dense plank]

oh right

[north oracle]

Every 10th attack OD stops attacking, stays still, and takes significantly more damage

If you abuse those you can completely melt him

[sleek turret]

he becomes The Thinker statue

[halcyon zealot]

just, whatever you do, make sure these get resolved somehow #suggestions-discussion message
if you are going to make calcord lore do it well

[sleek turret]

calcord lore (it's full of ooc messages coming from random people)

[halcyon zealot]

[dense plank]

i knew he stopped moving and attacking but he loses defense and DR when he does that too?

[halcyon zealot]

👍

[sleek turret]

the more ooc the more hidden

[north oracle]

Yes

[worldly sparrow]

i still have no clue who would ever be true neutral

this is a discord server, nobody is ever true neutral

[sleek turret]

Rover

[worldly sparrow]

oh

yeah

[pine star]

feedza?

[worldly sparrow]

true

ok so this is the current state

5 more

[wide river]

That chart is clearly missing someone, the person who started this whole thing
Cursed Being

[worldly sparrow]

cursed being is neutral impure imo

though im not sure

[pine star]

well they are cursed

[crude geode]

[worldly sparrow]

ok so given that reaction imma just go with neutral impure just to be safe

[pine star]

where am I?

[worldly sparrow]

social neutral maybe?

[pine star]

I guess?

[worldly sparrow]

i mean in your about me you say you're average

[pine star]

also there aren't any more "extreme" positions

[worldly sparrow]

wait

neutral good is the average alignment

so neutral moral you get

[pine star]

ok

[north oracle]

So I’m chaotic but not as chaotic as jupi? That sounds about right

[halcyon zealot]

I'm still tilted nah I'm stil going at it look it's amazing and easy to digest

I beg once more stop limiting yourself to a grid

[worldly sparrow]

i know my limits

[pine star]

why did you have to do a graph of vtubers

[wide river]

The great debate of #suggestions-discussion
Grid or Graph

[halcyon zealot]

[wide river]

Hey despite the allegations v-tubers aren't all cringe

[worldly sparrow]

ok 3 left

lawful neutral, social neutral, and rebel impure

[pine star]

another thing is that I don't understand the axes at all

[halcyon zealot]

maybe you have trouble getting discord pfps?
you can inspect element from the browser discord to get the images

[deft yew]

physically how is rover not lawful good

[halcyon zealot]

although I don't have qualms with screenshots of their profiles

given the names are attached

[worldly sparrow]

because hes the most neutral you'll get for the cal discord

also cog is 100% lawful good

[halcyon zealot]

crazy

almost like there's

some overlap

🤔

that cannot be communicated in a grid

I will not complain anymore, I am not making it afterall

good night

[north oracle]

[worldly sparrow]

just for stopping the complaining eventually you get social neutral

[halcyon zealot]

[worldly sparrow]

also surprisingly civil debate

[wide river]

Funny how this grid has been the main focus of this channel today
I'm not complaining it's just funny

[pine star]

if they did not stop where would you put them

[pine star]

yes

[halcyon zealot]

[worldly sparrow]

rebel neutral but thats taken

... by me

[halcyon zealot]

I do not wish to cause discord, I just want things to be as good as they can be within reason

[worldly sparrow]

you know, good on you man. good on you.

[wide river]

Name drop of the platform (real)

[halcyon zealot]

roll credits

[worldly sparrow]

ok so 2 spaces are left

lawful neutral and rebel impure

im all for cei being lawful neutral

[swift wharf]

is cei a sugg regular

[worldly sparrow]

...no

its just that we're out of sugg regulars

screw it

including balance sugg people as well

[swift wharf]

ozz in neutral moral becuae ozz is cool

[worldly sparrow]

neutral moral is taken

its just lawful neutral and rebel impure

[buoyant idol]

Fabsol? He’s why we’re here

[worldly sparrow]

yeah sure lmao fabsol

ok so now its just rebel impure

although fabsol isnt a sugg regular in the slightest

[buoyant idol]

He doesn’t suggest, he just does

Ex. Point blank dmg

[drowsy plank]

truly the mechanic ever

[distant gyro]

[worldly sparrow]

still need to think of who would fill rebel impure

[wide river]

I'm surprised you haven't put EquinoxShark on there yet

[worldly sparrow]

ok thanks

Alignment Chart v3

[wide river]

I was gonna say Fryzahh in Lawful Neutral
I see Fryzahh here decently often to call him a "regular"

[north oracle]

I maintain my position

[blazing kettle]

what happened here

what does this mean

[wide river]

Backstory for what's been happening today

Read from there down to get context

[eager bobcat]

Tfw social good

But not active enough to receive a specific alignment

[ornate slate]

I am rebel evil

[blazing kettle]

i am not good at categorizing myself in things

[swift wharf]

this makes more sense

[ornate slate]

what are ye doing get back to suggesting........

[halcyon zealot]

[bright crag]

Real

[atomic shell]

chat is this sugg valid or not

[wide river]

The suggestion ever

[swift wharf]

i have embeds wdym

also server suggestions go in @sonic torrent

[atomic shell]

how does this suggestion sound
Make me moderator
Make me a moderator on the server.

“Embeds for us lowly life forms, you mods.”

this is so emotional I cried

[crude geode]

Is mods a slur

[atomic shell]

yeah probably

[swift wharf]

😭

[atomic shell]

modd’s

[grave zinc]

@wide river - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove Frost Barrier from Auric Tesla armor's recipe]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[wide river]

Oh hello
Quite the pleasant surprise

[golden sonnet]

Nice

[swift wharf]

dub

[worldly sparrow]

W

also alignment chart v4

swapped fabsol for fryzahh

[swift wharf]

r3al

[glass arch]

HELL YEAAAAAAAH

[livid coral]

Kaizo being chaotic neutral fits

[grave zinc]

@wide river - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove Frost Barrier from Auric Tesla armor's recipe]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[golden sonnet]

fasted impliment in the west

so based

[wide river]

Oh
Well then

[glass arch]

7 minutes later...

[worldly sparrow]

all thats left is the flying carpet

problem is that the flying carpet's functionality is in the armor's too :P

[golden sonnet]

and is really good

[worldly sparrow]

i am STILL thankful i dont have to grind for lead core every run

[hearty obsidian]

oki but thematically and gameplay wise it sucks

[swift wharf]

Would be 20x funnier if it was denied

and frost barrier removed

[frosty trellis]

Flying Carpet FUCKS against Exos

[golden sonnet]

yes, and it's still good without it, I agree it should be killed

I know, Raesh wants something removed? unheard of

[wide river]

Totally unheard of
Ignore the 4 different suggestions you keep resuggesting in hopes that they pass

[glass arch]

carpet is sometimes really good with auric tesla

but just because somethings good with something else doesnt mean it should still exist

like nobody cares if the frost barrier in tesla has a couple of specific scenarios where it becomes an absolute godsend to have, they still want it gone

[golden sonnet]

jungle ones and corroslime both got approved, but are in implimentation hell, bone/demonic dust was mentioned to be planned to be a single item by a dev

so at this point my list of assasination victims has grown slim, but still exists

[worldly sparrow]

meanwhile the lead core was used in auric tesla helmets before everyone realized it was literally useless

ah yes it grants immunity to irradiated

[drowsy plank]

i really hope they just make use of the hell mats tbqh

[worldly sparrow]

so bad that the item got removed entirely

[glass arch]

yes because thats literally all it did

[golden sonnet]

just make it a material in the ankh shield as asguards valor is really bad rn

[glass arch]

if it did something other than literally just immunity to irradiated then it probably wouldnt have gotten outright removed

removed from auric tesla, yes, but not outright removed

[wide river]

I want nothing more than the death of the entire Asgard's Valor line
Not the removal sort of death, but just the nerf sort of death
Why is Ankh Shield there it has no reason :hdflr:

[golden sonnet]

I quite liked your split shield line suggestion, a defensive/immunity line and a mobility line

[drowsy plank]

uh. is shield. duh

[golden sonnet]

but community when nerf popular item suggestion

[drowsy plank]

we should add captain united to it tbqh

[wide river]

Dear lord

(Actually a parry could be cool if there wasn't quite as much junk in Asgard's Valor at the moment)

[golden sonnet]

asguards shuld combine with high ruler and elysian to make the ultimate dash sheild, with a new type of dash, a bam (combines a bonk and ram)

[wide river]

@ MPG

[hearty obsidian]

how would you combine a bonk and a ram

bonking enemies immediately launches you into a super fast ram

[sleek turret]

yeah its weird

[crude geode]

Mario kart double dash

[hearty obsidian]

true

[royal tapir]

bonks enemy
charges up for 1 second
fast ram dash forward

[hearty obsidian]

exactly

[golden sonnet]

Add an upgrade to the ninja gear or asguards line that's the dash from God slayer armor with no cooldown

This would not be at all problematic, trust me

[wicked cradle]

lmaoo

[grave zinc]

@lean prairie - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make it so you're able to place stuff on top of calamity piano]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[distant gyro]

you know, featuring terraria jank

[wide river]

Oh hey I forgot about that one
Funny

[distant gyro]

the crystal piano is so powerful that it lifts a book 10 inches off the ground except like half the calamity pianos have this in some way

[royal tapir]

Minor trolling

[distant gyro]

except this one is so egregious that this is not allowed

[sick belfry]

if one of the books fell the piano would break

so it need to keep them floating

[grim tusk]

Seems like a 5x5 chart cant fit all of us

[wide river]

I think like a 6x6 or 7x7 chart might suffice
Goes to show how many regulars the channel got since the last one

[distant gyro]

nvm it's more than half

[worldly sparrow]

the problem with 6x6 or 7x7 is that we 100% have more than 25 but less than 36 and especially 49

[grim tusk]

The Catalyst mod in question

[halcyon zealot]

The voices

[halcyon zealot]

there is an incredible solution, the continuous (instead of discrete) graph

[worldly sparrow]

god

i cannot escape the graph

[halcyon zealot]

[worldly sparrow]

id rather use a 5x6

[halcyon zealot]

[distant gyro]

if you think about it a graph is basically a table but some slots are blank

[north oracle]

[worldly sparrow]

ill only make a 5x6 if theres 5 people i legitimately forgor to add

[sleek turret]

ngl this looks more of a projector than a piano/keyboard

[halcyon zealot]

It actually does wtf

[sleek turret]

it looks silly

[sick belfry]

most likely made with the same materials, they break so easily (or last more then you will)

[wide river]

@ashen warren Please read the Suggestion Rules in the pins before making suggestions

[hearty obsidian]

he wants a fortnite reference

[ashen warren]

I’m serious

It’s not a joke or meme

Therefore not against the rules

[hearty obsidian]

^

read the rules

[ashen warren]

I did

[hearty obsidian]

and the doc

[ashen warren]

Ok I’m not doing that much work

🥹

[hearty obsidian]

also you just aren't following the rules in the first place

[ashen warren]

Ok

🤓

[hearty obsidian]

good one

[wide river]

There is a specific rule that prohibits references for the sake of references
This suggestion violates that rule

[blazing kettle]

mfw when theres plenty of suggs out there that have made it into voting and even dev with only 3-5 lines

[worldly sparrow]

but fortnite is all 8 year olds, and 8 year olds can't write paragraphs!!!!!1!

[drowsy plank]

do i even need to bother flagging this

cause im not

into the pit it goes

[worldly sparrow]

yeah dont

[small timber]

Graph need to be 5x7

Also are we really not gonna flag a suggestion that complains about difficulty of unable to kill OD at demonshade/shadowspec tier? Like this is just massive skill issues with no excuse

[worldly sparrow]

this and it's been suggested multiple times over

[small timber]

Like literally, 1 rest phase and OD disappear from the world with shadowspec

Buffing the drops is valid though but #1042197406776827914

[worldly sparrow]

might as well do a 6x6 at that point

[north oracle]

i did say this

however

[small timber]

OD is not notiriously difficult over other bosses on tier anymore especially after the shark debri nerf

[north oracle]

and he completely melts with omega blue too

[small timber]

It is just the bosses surrounding it are way too easy

Polter and Signus is a joke, CV is ok while Storm Weaver is mostly rungod simulator, Providence is difficult but dont deal damage so

[worldly sparrow]

true dat

[small timber]

While OD is the only one that is somewhat hard and deal a lot of damage so it actually is a fight

[worldly sparrow]

od is the opposite of the other bosses before it, hard to learn attack pattern with predictive dashing, small projectiles, and a fuck ton of hp

its not really a matter of od being hard

its a matter of the bosses preceding him being easy

[worldly sparrow]

wait, why isn't the od suggestion flagged again?

[wide river]

No idea

[worldly sparrow]

i mean either way its gonna get denied in dev voting

[worldly gale]

I think my suggestion is gonna get downvoted to oblivion

[golden sonnet]

It's currently breaking some suggestion rules so it won't get into voting

[worldly gale]

oh

unfortunate

[small timber]

yoyo dont need new accessories

they just need to stop being bugged and underbalanced

[worldly gale]

I see

[worldly sparrow]

theres no downvotes

[worldly gale]

oh

[worldly sparrow]

instead we have insults in #suggestions-discussion

[golden sonnet]

You cant use a subclass as reasoning for a suggestion, as it's a self imposed challenge, the suggestion donts has more details, I would recommend reading the pinned messages

[small timber]

Master Yoyo Bag is unironically one of the best accessory in the game in terms of effectiveness already

[worldly gale]

oh

[small timber]

no other class have a 33% additive damage boost just there

it is just currently it is bugged on all yoyo without infinite duration which basically make them deal 66% damage instead of 133%

[worldly gale]

ok

[umbral gazelle]

❗ jumpsacrer

[worldly sparrow]

yes

i agree

[swift wharf]

just nerf brain

[halcyon zealot]

lol

the spore sac function more than makes up for it, that might need to be addressed

[small timber]

I understand the effectiveness of nebulous core as an accessory (in fact I actively go against the previous suggestion that wanted to rework the accessory), but I am referring to the fact that its revival effect is underpowered compare to dodges

And from experience the spore sac function only make up for yharon on an average performing weapon due to the ram heavy nature of the fight, on Scal it does nothing while on Exo most of the time if you are using above average weapon the spore sac is just worse, because my test result probably is massively skewed by my very aggressive exo playstyle

And of course The Amalgam exist as an upgrade at post-DoG

#1042197406776827914 message can refer to this

[swift wharf]

I jest, the suggestion is good

[atomic shell]

I feel like I would prefer nebulous core to just be dodge lethal damage + heal when that happens + other effects

[swift wharf]

amalgamated brain should fucking die along with bloody worm scarf so rotten brain and bloody worm tooth can have some actual identity

[atomic shell]

no i love my amalgamated brain

rotten brain just sucks on its own tbh

worm tooth is good for melee phm

[swift wharf]

me when
increased damage
shade rain
dodge
increased crit chance and summon damage when dodge

((i was about to ask why boc has a summon damage bonus when I remembered that summons cannot crit)

[frosty trellis]

Amal brain is kinda overpowered tbf but yeah neb core needs a buff

[drowsy plank]

what do you mean shade rain

[swift wharf]

death to the funny brain

make rotten brain cool instead

[sleek turret]

it rains shades (of gray)

[small timber]

Ah yes the primary shade rain function to make up the accessory

[swift wharf]

or make rotten brain something new entirely because why do we need two brains

[small timber]

Same as gehenna, massive defining feature there

[drowsy plank]

i like the amalgam line but making rotten brain cool as well would be nice

[swift wharf]

gehenna fans raise your hands

🦗

[sleek turret]

shade rain when it's star veil resprited

[swift wharf]

do rework bloody worm tooth too anyways

fuck melee

[small timber]

There is rumor that every 2 minutes gehenna can actually hit the boss you are fighting once (assuming not Leviathan)

But it is just a rumour because scientist are yet unable to replicate this consistency

[swift wharf]

gehenna is simply a material

nothing else

same with abaddon

[glass arch]

gehenna does not exist it cannot hurt you

[swift wharf]

abaddon could be a vanity item and nothing would be lost

[sleek turret]

me when i'm in filler accs competition and my opponents is gehenna

[wide river]

Gehenna and Abaddon when they are both dropped by the same boss and made into the same accessory

[swift wharf]

and then there's void of calamity which is gehenna

but better

[sleek turret]

Oh wow! Star Cloak with almost no changes whatsoever except sprites!

actually no it isn't star veil it's star cloak that does the star rain stuff

[small timber]

Give gehenna star veil iframe immediately S tier accessory

[wide river]

You could legitimately make these be one accessory and nothing would be lost

[swift wharf]

but would that accessory be useful

[wide river]

Still not

[sleek turret]

it's like

[swift wharf]

🪓

[sleek turret]

fuck i would use an analogy here for it but damn i don't have one

byeay good sugg xpc

[swift wharf]

or do merge them into an acessory and kill the immunities

[small timber]

Void of extinction is an insane quick swap after your amalgamated brain dodge is proc

[swift wharf]

make being on fire/fire debuffs in general buff you

[small timber]

Because it basically does the samething but worse

But yeah literally just slap a fire debuff amp on void of extinction and it probably will still be mid because debuff are just very limited in damage after the resist nerf

[swift wharf]

I was thinking of like

being set on fire/brimstone flames/whatever would give you buffs but still take the dot

[small timber]

Half the entire point of void of extinction is to inflict brimstone flame

That or be a 1 dollar store Yharim's Gift knockoff

[swift wharf]

make it set YOURSELF on fire

burn everything

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/800781171138494544/1053705209978826872/sketch-1644250040344.png

relevant image

[sleek turret]

make brimstone items thematic to brimflame armor ngl...

[swift wharf]

time to be a nerd and mention a skill in borderlands 2 that increases damage reduction while on fire for example

[halcyon zealot]

was that testing with background walls
iirc spore sac, and neb core by extension cannot spawn their things unless there are walls / ground within ~25 blocks of the player

[swift wharf]

what is that mechanic

[halcyon zealot]

terraria moment

[small timber]

No walls since my arena dont have walls

[swift wharf]

👁️ 👁️

[halcyon zealot]

worst part is, platforms don't count

[small timber]

And chances are most people's arena will not have walls

[sleek turret]

spores are also affected by wind?

[swift wharf]

👁️ 👄 👁️ my god

[sleek turret]

yeah now with 1.4.4 arenas with walls and tiles for heart lamps and stuff won't exist anymore since you can place them directly on platforms

[halcyon zealot]

correct, but if it becomes the meta, meta slaves will do their thing

[small timber]

Oh wait no, my exo and yharon have walls

Because I copy pasted walls + torch for lighting so I had 1 row of walls on each platform

[halcyon zealot]

oops wrong reply

[small timber]

So only scal dont have walls but I dont imagine it will do much since scal can only get hit by it during mobile or charge (and the fight had solid blocks anyway)

[swift wharf]

why is that even a thing

[sleek turret]

ask vanilla devs 🤷‍♂️

[halcyon zealot]

both work on ground (expected)
spore sac works on platforms, neb core does not (why????)

neb core working on walls but not platforms

[sleek turret]

this is one of the inconsistencies ever

[glass arch]

yeah because iframes are stupidly broken

[drowsy plank]

frankly spores should just be made to not be block/wall dependant tbqh

[distant gyro]

as someone who never used spore sac or nebulous core idfk

[halcyon zealot]

🆗

[eager bobcat]

Another day another nebulous core suggestion

[halcyon zealot]

fr

[drowsy plank]

@hollow badge this is already planned, and even if it wasn't, this would be denied under the ground of it being too much work. luckily, they already plan to add the distortion and dragon's aerie as subworlds, so ur good in that department ig

events could also help solve this issue, or just adding more content for existing biomes as well

but again, not something we need to worry about lol

[hollow badge]

Sorry then I didn’t know about those two

[wide river]

Funny joke
God this community is horrible sometimes

[atomic shell]

hello dear moderators

[drowsy plank]

@ashen warren don't

in fact this is going to be a verbal :)

and now you're warned!

[sleek turret]

isn't the spotify sugg kinda dependant on what cdmusic decides if they want to put it on or not

[ashen warren]

me: ok

[drowsy plank]

please, keep tempting fate and i can make it a mute

[ashen warren]

OK

[wide river]

Yes I believe so
But regardless of the method of doing so, it's not a valid suggestion for here

[glass arch]

yes that is why its exclam'd

[drowsy plank]

^

[sleek turret]

ye

[swift wharf]

no I exclaimed it because I can

[worldly sparrow]

the latest one in voting is soooooo gonna get denied in dev voting

like the boss is designed to be harder than the rest???

[wide river]

You're actually kidding me how did it get through
I guess it was like... vaguely valid, but it just doesn't do a good job at explaining its points at all, and numerous issues were brought up that were ignored
...Nothing that can be done, I guess, but I'm still just like... why

[worldly sparrow]

...yeah

hope it doesn't even get to dev voting

[north oracle]

yeh

multiple issues were repeatedly explained and ignored

[wide river]

Hey if no one votes for it at least it's a filler suggestion to increase how many suggestions are in the top 20%

[worldly sparrow]

true

[north oracle]

lol

[swift wharf]

summoning my 400 alts

[north oracle]

[worldly sparrow]

just use the alts to vote good suggs

but like

for gods sake

old duke isnt even required

hes treated more like an extra challenge you can do for pretty nice loot

[swift wharf]

nuh uh

405 stars suggestion

[worldly sparrow]

[swift wharf]

need more to break the 416 record

[wide river]

Just get 400 alts to vote on literally every suggestion
They'll all pass if they're all highly received

[swift wharf]

TRUE

[worldly sparrow]

wait what got 416 again?

[north oracle]

icicle arrow sprite flip

[glass arch]

icicle arrow

[worldly sparrow]

ah

[glass arch]

the best sugg ever

[north oracle]

@muted flint you need some reasoning other than "it would be cool"

[frosty trellis]

@drowsy plank Pretty sure this most recent sugg is under the "doesn't have enough reasoning" don't

(And also feels very memey)

(Well, less memey but not like, great)

[north oracle]

if they can come up with good reasoning it can stay, but there's literally nothing atm

[drowsy plank]

@muted flint no scaling + specific item suggestion + no reasoning

[bright crag]

^

Scaling items are generally a bad idea

[worldly sparrow]

^ unless its the upcoming arsenal armor, which i love the concept of

[bright crag]

Arsenal armor isn't even a case of scaling, it's more like
The armor being upgraded along the line

[worldly sparrow]

hmm

[deft yew]

That’s not progression scaling, that’s progression upgrades, which is what I assume the sugg meant in the first place

[bright crag]

Kinda like how you have weapon lines such as Ark and Biome Blade

[worldly sparrow]

yeah

[sick belfry]

the closest I see for arsenal armor is turtle to beetle, but it's a very small difference in progression

[worldly sparrow]

and you cant evolve traits for turtle/beetle

[sick belfry]

ik, I meant in it's a set of armor that gets scaled up per progression

[worldly sparrow]

ofc

[cosmic karma]

oh yeah increased minion damage is so misleading if it increases whip damage

[crude geode]

Something something

Whips blow up sugg discussion

In actuality for criticism, doesn’t this also extend to sentries? Or is that like a 1.4.4 thing

[lament mulch]

wouldn't sentries be included under the summon damage umbrella? genuine question i dont play this game enough

unless it SPECIFICALLY boosts sentry damage and no other summoner damage type

not sure of any sets that do but im sure they exist

[crude geode]

I remember something regarding minion damage specifically not actually boosting sentry damage

[lament mulch]

ill go check

[crude geode]

or sentry damage just being weird in general, but I also don’t remember that much about it and it doesn’t really concern me all that much

[lament mulch]

yeah lol im not willing to die on this hill i just think it would make more sense for parity w/ vanilla and also to validate my own confusion

minion damage does also increase sentry damage, just checked w/ staff of the frost hydra and silva armor

so it seems to be just summon damage with a different name

[crude geode]

Fair

[lament mulch]

if anyone else has any takes for contention or w/e ping me cause im gonna head out

[grim tusk]

@muted flint just sprite GS hoverboard, we have been waiting AGES for someone to sprite one.
Hadarian Mantle also kinda works like one

altho no doing tricks on em

just a regular board

[frosty trellis]

I thought there was like, 8 billion god slayer jetpack submissions, just the devs didn't like them wot

[grim tusk]

there was actually too little of em most of not good quality

and some that im surprised that the old team rejected

[small timber]

isnt there one that is like acceptable?

by the people spriting the current new signus

since currently it looks like it is gonna be a soon™️ deal if skipped on that one

[grim tusk]

is there?

[small timber]

I dont know, a really old one

this one iirc? I forgot if is this one

unless the godslayer rework/resprite is coming soon I think the item sprite still definitely fit, the wing maybe need to be abit different but mostly look good

[whole mirage]

the original signus sprite is beautiful in my eyes

[grim tusk]

oh yea thats the one I was "why was this rejected?"

[frosty trellis]

Why WAS that rejected what the hell

That's cool as shit

[small timber]

maybe can brought that up again? since looks like there will be no new godslayer hoverboard submission in the next 5 years

or I can try to submit one with mspaint and definitely not get ridiculed

[tired haven]

"simply awful"

[glass arch]

could try pinging the poster of that one and asking if it could be resubmitted

[small timber]

I thought that one is sprited by the current dev spriting new signus

[glass arch]

nope

[tired haven]

My guess is that it's too swingy and thin, but my guesses on artistic view are always like 5 parsecs away from truth

i love subjective ratings

[grim tusk]

"it doesnt align with my vision" - Iban, probably, probably not, who the fuck knows?

[glass arch]

void isnt on the dev team

[small timber]

that or I think at the time the devs thought there will be way more godslayer wing submission

and then proceed to not get any good one for like 5 years

[grim tusk]

plausible

[golden sonnet]

Tbh I do think the animation is a bit jank and it does look a bit thin, but it's by no means worse than some sprites currently in the mod

[small timber]

but yeah, tbh I think imo iirc can just accept that sprite and then maybe make some adjustment to the wing (either not make it overly thin or add something like flare out of it instead of just the empty air) and it will be good

[tired haven]

Checking the backlogs, the statement was "it's a pair of wings that did not match the requested item"
What gets me in retrospect is that the request was as follows:

[tired haven]

Definitely felt like it

[wide river]

I would totally take up spriting simply to finally get another submission for that
However, wing sheet spriting.

[small timber]

tbh

betsy' wing is a hoverboard (in function), and it is not a hoverboard

at this point I will be honest it is better to just take it as otherwise it will just be another soon™️ item

[tired haven]

Well, neither are nebula wings, indeed

[glass arch]

maybe gelatum will do gs wings after provi

[small timber]

since it is not like it is a bad sprite or anything, it is pretty good

probably better than most wings in the mod even, because most of them are resprite of each other

[tired haven]

uhh

[small timber]

ok I mean the one added by cal

[tired haven]

I can't remember any other than drew's

[small timber]

why did I always thought tarragon and silva are resprite for some reason

[grim tusk]

tarragon used to be way back, but has gotten a resprite since like Rust and Dust lol

[frosty trellis]

Tarragon Wings with green dye my beloved (They look so good)

[wide river]

I was wondering when you were going to show up

[frosty trellis]

How did you know I was gonna show up wat

[crude geode]

Does Ench think MPG is springtrap?

It would explain MPG’s tanky nature

[frosty trellis]

What the heck is a springtrap

[crude geode]

Micheal Afton Purple Guy FNAF 2,3, Sister Location, Etc.

Mr. I always come back

[frosty trellis]

You could not confuse me more

[drowsy plank]

maybe i should try renovating my old design but also i dont want to post in calart again so

[crude geode]

Who was it that went on a rant about cal’s art standards being set so high it’s now crippling them

Was it feedzuh or Thomas or someone else

[small timber]

I mean if the standard is skyhigh of course it will discourage people from posting it

imagine if any suggestion here require the entire mod team to have a more than 50/50 personal opinion approval for it to be posted in voting
literally 90% of suggestions will stop existing

[crude geode]

Lmaooooo

[frosty trellis]

LOL

[crude geode]

Ok eclipse was the one who brought it up of course

[cobalt pewter]

it already kinda is

[small timber]

but none of them require majority approval, just it have to not break rule or is a non-issue (eg: give player 500 more max HP permanent upgrades because game is too hard)

[cobalt pewter]

true

[muted flint]

I can't sprite for shit I'm sorry

[hollow shell]

I like that you specifically clarified that Purple Guy did not show up in FNAF 1 and 4

yet also I just noticed you got his name wrong, that's his son

so technically your statement is only accurate about Sister Location because the Purple Guy in that game is in fact Michael and not William

[hollow shell]

The cal devs themselves went on that rant, is was part of the reason why they wanted Iban off the team

[ripe owl]

When the artist is so good that they're too good

[hollow shell]

... and then, in an amazing stroke of irony
When they redid the art submission system after The 22 Incident and Iban was off the team,

They made the positive ratio required for a sprite to be considered accepted more strict
Literally tangibly increasing the art standards

ex:

[north oracle]

that thing looks so much better

in my opinion
clearly not in 5 of the devs

[hollow shell]

(fun fact I was the one that made the current Boss Effects icon, back when Boss Zen was first implemented)

[ashen warren]

If you mean the ratio the bot requires, that could be brought up with nycro and whatnot

[hollow shell]

Not my place to speak, I'm not a dev anymore

[ashen warren]

What was the old ratio/system and how was it more lenient for comparison sake

[hollow shell]

I'm pretty sure the acceptable ratio was anything above 50/50
Later on I think it required a 1 vote lead, so, the same as dev-side suggestion voting

But now I think it requires a 66% lead

or 70%? 75%?

[earnest raptor]

This sprite is 64% lead

[ashen warren]

I believe it’s 2/3

[hollow shell]

Alright so yeah 66%

[earnest raptor]

It's like so close to 66%

[hollow shell]

RIP that guy

[ashen warren]

That does happen with automated stuffs sometimes unfort

[hollow shell]

Anyway yeah I only bring that up to be daft and facetious against the narrative that Iban increased the art standards

[north oracle]

[hollow shell]

I can see why wanting a 66% lead is a good idea

[north oracle]

the quality of a lot of his sprites certainly did increase the expected quality of other sprites

[earnest raptor]

or 16/25

[hollow shell]

( 5 / 9 = 0.55 🤔 )

[earnest raptor]

I thought it's (9/(9+5))

[swift wharf]

as much that I think that was the best godslayer wings sprite weren't they supposed to be not wings

[hollow shell]

... I don't know if you're correct or not
You could be

Math class was a weak point for me unfortunately

[earnest raptor]

Amount of agreeing divided by total amount of votes

[ashen warren]

Saaame

[hollow shell]

I feel like they/we should have just cut losses and implemented it anyway

at some point

of having no more submissions

[swift wharf]

pft

[hollow shell]

It was a cool sprite with a neat direction
It wasn't what was originally intended but it was high quality and unique

But yeah also fuckin like it wouldn't be hard to implement a shitty sprite just to have the item in the mod