suggestions-discussion

[vagrant spindle]

could probably lower the needed grave amount with this

cause people will actually want them

[ripe owl]

Yeah

I can't craft SHIT when I need a grave and have like 5 gravestones

I am simply bad at dying

[vagrant spindle]

once it shows up on changelogs ill probably make a sugg about it

[crude geode]

Or just

Make gravestones craftable.

Yknow, the actual instance where making something craftable isn’t a crime against god, bc the way it’s currently found is asinine and impossible in something like hardcore

or you can pull a thorium and make a natural graveyard

[ripe owl]

NPCs drop graves in Hardcore

But like

Yeah

[sleek turret]

make gravestones crafteable... at heavy work table and ecto mist 🚎

[ripe owl]

Killing 20 NPCs for a graveyards is super lame

[ripe owl]

Tuer

[crude geode]

Get this man orange

[sick belfry]

didn't calamity increase the amount of gravestones needed for echo mist

[crude geode]

Yes that is indeed the discussion point

[swift wharf]

yes

[crude geode]

[sick belfry]

ah, pain.

[ripe owl]

Which one there are two people above you

[crude geode]

Not you

[ripe owl]

😭

[crude geode]

Byeah I’d be fine with either instead of reverting a change that was made for. very decent reasoning

[random pasture]

Make zombies have a 1% chance to drop Gravestones

[ripe owl]

Rtue

[crude geode]

Eurt

[ripe owl]

Actually it sounds like a good idea

[sick belfry]

only cost 50 stone in a heavy work bench, maybe use like also 10 gold coins for the golden ones

[sand marlin]

Zombies are way too common

[ripe owl]

Yeah but like

[sick belfry]

because the golden ones are cool and could be used in builds

[ripe owl]

1%

[crude geode]

insert life jelly

[sleek turret]

idea idea idea but you could use blood orbs + stone at a heavy work bench to make gravestones

[sick belfry]

how many 1% chance items does calamity add (or less, pineapple)

[sleek turret]

any gravestone is cool and can be used at builds

[sand marlin]

1- Zombies only spawn at night so you gotta wait for that if you're actively looking to make graveyards
2- You may just not get enough with 1% anyway but if you make it more than that the drop table feels bloated especially later on

[sleek turret]

uhh thank you painting?

the donor item

the one that credits devs and testers

[sick belfry]

make any zombie have a 1% chance, make the rares one have like a 5%

easy

[sand marlin]

Just making surefire way to get graveyard sounds much better than some random drop

[crude geode]

^^^^^^^

[swift wharf]

just add a recipe ffs

make it like evil wood and stone

[sand marlin]

☝️

[crude geode]

It’s ok ik this chat is traumatized

But like

This is a valid spot for it

[sleek turret]

ffs make it 10 blood orbs 50 stone @ heavy work bench

[random pasture]

Make skeletron drop 20 gravestones when killed

[sick belfry]

I'd also say same recipe but at like 10 gold for the golden tomestones

[sleek turret]

make gravestones sold by skelly merchant

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give All Boss Spawners with Non-Crafting Obtainment Methods Decrafts or Sell Prices]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[distant gyro]

not to say shimmer but

shimmer

[sand marlin]

Nah just keep it simple

[drowsy plank]

oh lmao

[sand marlin]

Wood and stone sounds good

[drowsy plank]

i forgot about this suggestion

[distant gyro]

[swift wharf]

isnt that just a goofy ahh loop

to get blood orbs you need graveyard but to get graveyard you need blood orbs

[crude geode]

Altix one of five people to actually try and clear the 🛠️ backlog

[sleek turret]

where the fuck do you get blood orbs rn in calamity

[swift wharf]

Blood moon

[crude geode]

Blood moon

and now the enemies from graveyard

[sand marlin]

Yea

[sick belfry]

and some of the gravestone biomes mobs can drop a blood tear. To summon said blood moon

[distant gyro]

you mean like 1 of 1

[crude geode]

Ye

[distant gyro]

[sleek turret]

so they changed it?

[swift wharf]

altix carrying the implementation department

[sick belfry]

goated behavior

[drowsy plank]

i think gravestones being craftable at a heavy work bench along with bolders would just make sense + some of them are actually pretty cool for builds and not having to commit mass suicide to get them would be cool lmao

[stable kiln]

altix most based dev frfr

🔥

[drowsy plank]

🔥

[sleek turret]

the most based devs are the coqqers...

[stable kiln]

altix IS a coqqer

a coq leader even

[swift wharf]

make them made out of evil wood and evil stone it would be cool

[sleek turret]

i know

[swift wharf]

source: me

[drowsy plank]

wowie

[sleek turret]

make it different recipes for different grayestones 💀

[random pasture]

True!

[vagrant spindle]

evil eclipse be like: haha im so funny

[crude geode]

When did you get your banner eclipse bc it’s pretty great

[swift wharf]

I made it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/885002243529650237/1125513539243757588/funny_modding.png

[crude geode]

Beautiful

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Move Nadir to Auric Tier]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[vagrant spindle]

this is so ture

[distant gyro]

this weapon sucks???

[stable kiln]

wait i didnt know we were going through with this ngl

[swift wharf]

my modded community memes are so true

do not show them to devs

[sleek turret]

do not show iamadev.mp4

[vagrant spindle]

holy crap lois possible nadir buff

[drowsy plank]

does anyone else find it funny how many of these are mine

[swift wharf]

based suggestor

[crude geode]

Truly mod privilege

[swift wharf]

now where's the post scal miracle matter

:(

[drowsy plank]

lol

[vagrant spindle]

you're the only person to care about this mod

[crude geode]

So true

[drowsy plank]

💥

[swift wharf]

lmao

[swift wharf]

also I don't see a problem for that just add 3 recipes
ebon wood
ebonstone
and ebon stone + gold

[drowsy plank]

i forgot that after calamity players wanting the game to be a boss rush, the second most common type of fan are ones who dont play the game

[crude geode]

I just come here to make fun of the illiterate and balance nerds

[swift wharf]

based

[vagrant spindle]

the third are youtube commenters who just absolutely hate the mod and exclusively complain about it

[random pasture]

I'm just here for the comedy

[tired haven]

Ayo shimmer decraft gold farm
the aztecs were onto something with endless sacrifices

[swift wharf]

modded terraria youtube comments are actually the worst part of this community

[swift wharf]

GUH

just shimmer blacklist

[crude geode]

[sleek turret]

i would post a certain youtube comment image i have saved but it's too risky

[drowsy plank]

actually leave it in it would be funny methinks

[swift wharf]

send

[vagrant spindle]

i saw someone call vcmm shit while praising infernum ost

all hope is lost

[swift wharf]

suicide is the best method to make money

[drowsy plank]

💥

[crude geode]

What about Handsome Jack

[sick belfry]

💀

[swift wharf]

[sleek turret]

no it's not the dokuro comment one is another one from other person

[vagrant spindle]

wtf rover reference

[swift wharf]

i do have a few modded terraria youtube comment copypastas

[swift wharf]

true{?}

[crude geode]

if(false)
ban

[swift wharf]

if(false) if(0==0)

[crude geode]

if
else

[vagrant spindle]

if
else

return(0)

[swift wharf]

if (target hasbuff mod content buff type astral infection debuff)
target clearbuff mod content buff type astral infection debuff

i unironically did a free(NULL) once

[crude geode]

Woah

cheap labor

[swift wharf]

true

btw the current suggestion sucks just remove feller of the evergreens

it served its purpose now it must die

[random pasture]

[swift wharf]

it is no longer free damage
say bye bye

WAIT

WAIT

why.

[random pasture]

Delete every axe, just make trees affected by gravity and mine the blocks under the tree

[swift wharf]

who did this.

[cobalt pewter]

lmao?

[sleek turret]

trees are enemies in the code

[swift wharf]

this is the recipe.

of all time.

[cobalt pewter]

Feller of Evergreens more like

idk garbage I can't find good words

[crude geode]

I think it used to have one (1) more thing in it

[vagrant spindle]

farter of everpiss

[sleek turret]

back then it was silver axe

[swift wharf]

it used to have a silver axe

[sleek turret]

yeah silver axe

[swift wharf]

now it's a silver axe

but with more damage

[crude geode]

Perfect game design

[swift wharf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/833713085525131344/1125801808825163796/attachment.gif

[random pasture]

I love redundancy!

[swift wharf]

this is no redundancy this is malicious intent

fuck you

[crude geode]

Really

[sleek turret]

hold on a sec i'm gonna make one of those

[cobalt pewter]

calamity will never beat the unique ai allegations

[drowsy plank]

feller is getting replaced with that staff of regrowth axe in the port dw about it

[swift wharf]

GOD

oh ok based

[cobalt pewter]

Axe of Regrowth is indeed based

[vagrant spindle]

hell yea

[swift wharf]

what prompted you to make this

[vagrant spindle]

fab did

[drowsy plank]

fab asked yeah

[sleek turret]

fab asked for it

[swift wharf]

ofc

[crude geode]

Fabsol Moment

Looking at the remove feller sugg in voting that died is really funny

Cuz it mentions Lucy as reasoning which is just

[swift wharf]

lol. lmao.

[crude geode]

We should remove deerclops

[vagrant spindle]

so true

[swift wharf]

or just make it constant-only tbh

[crude geode]

actually remove every reference in terraria and calamity

[vagrant spindle]

replace deerclops with ancient fuelweaver

[swift wharf]

frog boss

[sleek turret]

eclipse? gone

30% of calamity items? gone

[swift wharf]

😭

[sleek turret]

Doo Doo Shark Pet? Gone (thankfully)

[vagrant spindle]

actually remove calamity

[swift wharf]

it will free my soul

[sick belfry]

only 30?

doubt

[tired haven]

I wonder how many terraria players will fail the vibe check of "encased and then unavoidably hit by a boss"

[sleek turret]

wild guess, so you can doubt

[sick belfry]

ancient fuelweaver would be a bad ass boss

[vagrant spindle]

terraria nohitters when

[sleek turret]

they never got to fight mother brain in super metroid

(you're unavoidably hurt in this one)

[random pasture]

Make every boss during the death animation instantly deal 1 damage to the player to make nohitting impossible

[gusty burrow]

i have changed calamity forever

[dense echo]

don’t get too cocky nerd

[deft yew]

Unavoidable damage with proper execution is fine tbh

Like Agent Black’s grab, which leaves you almost dead but has an extremely long cooldown and spawns minions that drop health pickups

Plus she doesn’t use it in the nohit mode

[shut pollen]

idk about the hook one but that wing one is awesome

[vagrant spindle]

[cobalt pewter]

next you're saying that calamity should add a nohit mode

oh wait.

[eager bobcat]

Boss-rush must be no-hit to successfully complete.

That way it's actually hard

[drowsy plank]

[tired haven]

scal nohit that takes you 15 minutes per attempt do be pretty hard

[frosty trellis]

LOL

[bright crag]

Feller of Evergreens is there for a reason

Why else would we put it there?

[swift wharf]

placeholder item

[bright crag]

Why would we need a placeholder

[swift wharf]

i dunno

[bright crag]

It already has other items

[swift wharf]

i dunno why that thing still exists

[tired haven]

(the great irony of me mentioning future content by saying staff of regrowth is about to turn feller of evergreens obsolete)

[swift wharf]

axe of regrowth my beloved

[tired haven]

I love terraria axe progression being axed to approximately 3 axes

[bright crag]

Last I checked, we have plans for Feller of Evergreens

[golden sonnet]

kill feller, make axe of purity require axe of regrowth

: )

[swift wharf]

^

That easy

[bright crag]

(You don't even know what the plans are)

[swift wharf]

Truly the plans ever

[wide river]

Hammers progression being literally just Wooden Hammer > Pwnhammer
And sometimes the Wooden Hammer isn't even made

[swift wharf]

For Silver Axe: The Sequel

Featuring Ryan Gosling as 18 silver bars and Leonardo Di Caprio as 18 wood

[golden sonnet]

hey, if you go fishing for potions you get rockfish, smh my head

you skipped the only other pre HM hammer you get

[wide river]

But where is Chris Pratt

[wide river]

I don't fish as much as I used to, so I forgot about that one

[glass arch]

why would you bother with making wooden hammer when you get copper hammer from the starter bag

[wide river]

Vanilla

[swift wharf]

Chris Pratt is the axe

[wide river]

Obviously modded makes axe and hammer progression different

[glass arch]

why would you bother making a hammer when you have sticky bombs

[swift wharf]

TRUE

[wide river]

Clearly blowing up your house is better than making a hammer to remove the one spare wall

[glass arch]

or just

leave the wall there

[swift wharf]

skill issue for building near trees

[glass arch]

[tired haven]

In vanilla, for the first approximately 20 minutes when I might not have sticky bombs
In cal, 💀

[tired haven]

calling me out like that

[glass arch]

dont worry i do it too

[swift wharf]

real men use dynamite

[tired haven]

skynamite or busted

[swift wharf]

very true

[glass arch]

realer men use celebration mk2 w/ mini nuke 2s

[swift wharf]

delete your twrld file

free exo mechs arena

[tired haven]

there is a legend about people who hold a different wall type and tap for 1 frame to remove the existing one without placing a new one

[swift wharf]

GOD

[glass arch]

realest men delete terraria

[swift wharf]

i used the wall to destroy the wall..

[deft yew]

would unlocking the aim so you can turn it at any time not be a better solution?

[gusty burrow]

both

[eager bobcat]

Just combine all hammers and axes

All hamaxes, all the time

feller of evergreens and walls

[drowsy plank]

yknow what we need

MORE vanilla crafting recipes

[wide river]

(I don't think anyone mentioned that suggestion so I guess I will)
The reasoning appears to be naught more than just "It'd make sense", so that's already not good. It also goes under the assumption that anything even remotely rare needs a crafting recipe, which while not always invalid, isn't necessarily the best solution

[tired haven]

I suppose it's less so "makes sense" and more so "there is already precedent with dps meter and similar items"

which still rings the bell of the random drops having a painfully easy to access recipe, but that's a separate topic for discussion

[wide river]

It could do with a bit of an expansion regardless, as I don't think it's got very good reasoning at the moment

[small timber]

since when did they increase the amount of twisting nether and dark plasma dropped by signus and CV

previously armored shell use more than other materials was because twisting nether and dark plasma drop at like 1/3 the amount armored shell is dropped

[sick belfry]

most likely updated them (if they did) and forgot to update storm weaver as a result

[royal tapir]

They were all changed to be the same

[grave zinc]

@ripe owl - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Replace the Feller of Evergreen with the Fiberglass Fishing Pole in the Vernal Pass]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[distant gyro]

apparently feller of evergreens is supposed to have LORE??/1?1

[swift wharf]

explains it

placeholder item moment

[small timber]

wait, it have lore to be placed inside vernal pass ?

[ripe owl]

Lore? In my BOSS RUSH?!

[deft yew]

…Seriously

[dense ferry]

Yeah

Feller of Evergreens has LORE!!!!!!!!!!

[swift wharf]

you're not a dev you wouldn't understand it

[eager bobcat]

What's to hate it's just a neat axe

[undone holly]

makes sense

[swift wharf]

it's silver axe 2

[undone holly]

I've always thought it has to have something more than just being a stepping stone/slightly more expensive but not different teired version of the tungsten axe

[swift wharf]

it's not interesting whatsoevwr

[undone holly]

exactly

[swift wharf]

the exact problem of it is just being an axe

[dense ferry]

Omw to add Axe of Regrowth functionality into it

[swift wharf]

i wish there was an axe that worked like the axe of regrowth

[undone holly]

it literally is just more expensive, but not in a different teir

[dense ferry]

Seriously tho I do think it would be good to make it a weapon line

[eager bobcat]

Agree

[dense ferry]

While also being an axe

[swift wharf]

it's

already one

[undone holly]

Grax?

[dense ferry]

Eclipse, let's be honest to ourselves

Who uses the line as a weapon?

[swift wharf]

axe of purity is actually really good

[undone holly]

okay yeah

[swift wharf]

[dense ferry]

Axe of Purity is part of the line?

[swift wharf]

yeah

[deft yew]

(I love melee speed I love melee speed I love

[dense ferry]

I forgor

[undone holly]

I just made axe of purity to make the infurna cutter or whatever its called

it looked cool

fast attack speed

[swift wharf]

inferna cutter idk

[undone holly]

but never hit anything without Tmelee

[dense ferry]

Anyways yeah what I mean is making it actually cool too

And not just

[swift wharf]

anyways just buff the items

lo

[dense ferry]

Broadsword but it looks like an axe

[deft yew]

Inferna Cutter when it is complete crap unless you get into a hyper-specific distance from the enemy and then it melts

[swift wharf]

i mean it does cut wood

[undone holly]

exactly

[swift wharf]

axes are swords that cut wood

[undone holly]

its only really useable as slightly different Tmelee in my experience, but doesnt get Tmelee boosts

[dense ferry]

Byeah, ideally

[swift wharf]

but it do be funny to add lore to some slightly more expensive silver axe

(it clearly is extremely important)

[dense ferry]

That line will get some love

[dense ferry]

It's not SUUUUPER important shit

It's just a cool thing to be there

[swift wharf]

felt like it change tm

[dense ferry]

I'm pretty sure that

What we did was already planned anyways

[swift wharf]

unfortunate

[ashen warren]

it probably saw more use when it the line also led to ele axe tbh

[swift wharf]

There was a suggestion about expanding the line

Adding more clentaminating tools

Wait no

Different thing

[golden sonnet]

Ah yes, make the entire line unusable in Multiplayer

[sick belfry]

calamity in multiplayer

[spark coral]

Forbidden oathblade and upgrades should have the old lord claymore spin attack

[ripe owl]

Or, better yet, remove the Feller of Evergreens from the Pass, add the Axe of Regrowth and make the Feller something like a post-Skeletron upgrade to the AoR

Unless that's what plans are

[swift wharf]

i'd just make something different

i don't think that feller is worth saving

[ripe owl]

Axe the axe

[golden tulip]

nohit video

[dense ferry]

^

Your arguments are Nohit biased and that's very clear, and even then that's a skill issue on your part

[oblique geyser]

@toxic basalt skill issue

Kill brothers in a better position next time

[dense ferry]

She always "stores" an attack after going idle, pay attention to what she was doing beforehand and you can know what she will resume to

And even then, Christ didn't you kill brothers in the worst spot possible

[toxic basalt]

some I can't control, Wyvern

and the problem only gets worse when BH4 rolls around

[oblique geyser]

You can stall for position

:wires:

Gosh this server needs wires

[dense ferry]

.

You can quite literally see her there, you knew she would come for your ass after you finished brothers

[odd geyser]

the wirage

[oblique geyser]

And you only couldn't dodge it because you killed brothers while being under a fist

[toxic basalt]

except she could of either gone into mobile, or anything, and I can't pay attention to her when her brothers are still alive

[oblique geyser]

It's not random

[dense ferry]

^

[ripe owl]

You got killed by the brother's projectile in that video btw

[toxic basalt]

I know it's not random, but by the end of brothers, I have already forgotten what she last did

[ripe owl]

+1 point to the skill issue

[ashen warren]

nohit + skill issue tbh

[dense ferry]

That's nothing but a skill issue

Also, again, positioning

[toxic basalt]

ok thanks guys for laughing at me

[ashen warren]

i can say with certainty it's that because i malded the same way 4-5 years ago when i did my nohits, and haven't felt that way since

[dense ferry]

You were in the worst spot possible

[odd geyser]

skill issue when I fix it:

[dense ferry]

And you put yourself there

[ripe owl]

Nohitters when they actually have to learn the boss and play the game

[odd geyser]

lmao it's funny

[toxic basalt]

I've done her 2 times already, I know what to do most of the time, don't be a dipshit

[dense ferry]

(You know this gets funny when four of the five people in this conversation were nohitters)

[strange panther]

try killing the boss next time, i think that should help

[dense ferry]

Byeah, anyways

Stop with the shitting, please

[drowsy plank]

unless feller of evergreens is going to be reworked to be indistinguishable from its current form i have 0 idea why we would keep Silver Axe 2

[toxic basalt]

I'm seriously getting sick of making suggestions, only for everyone to just turn around and laugh at me

[golden sonnet]

When silver axe 2 is worse than copper axe 2

[strange panther]

what was your suggestion

[ripe owl]

#suggestions-discussion

[dense ferry]

All there is to say is that the problem wasn't the Boss, we pointed out why what just happened wasn't her fault and just that you put yourself in a bad situation

[ripe owl]

Latest message

[oblique geyser]

Then don't make suggestions that read more like a mountains of salt post

[toxic basalt]

Give SCal a delay after a BH finishes, and when her brothers are dead

[strange panther]

oh thanks

[toxic basalt]

I make the suggestion because I believe it's something to be addressed when it happens, so many fucking times

[swift wharf]

there's a copper axe two?

[ripe owl]

Axe of Regrowth

[golden sonnet]

Axe of regrowth

[swift wharf]

oh ok the based one

[dense ferry]

It only happens often because you put yourself in said situation so many times

[strange panther]

im gonna be real

unbiased opinion

i havent played terraria in half a year

it looks like askill thing

[toxic basalt]

the situation is always different

[dense ferry]

I have never had SCal cheaply hit me like that exactly because I always position myself far from her while she stays idle

[swift wharf]

I can see the reasoning behind this suggestion but the last one was caused by using the vortex monolith

[small timber]

no by all means it is shit that the only solution is to "just know it will happen"

[ripe owl]

Yet you end up in the same position

[drowsy plank]

i mean maybe you could add a laugh to stall from brothers -> normal pattern again but ehhhhhh

[strange panther]

at least with the clip you gave, but also it waa kinda brief

i dont rlly have context

[oblique geyser]

He died because he killed brothers in an awful position

[drowsy plank]

it's not like a new player is gonna know when brothers phase starts and maybe they transition scal in a weird spot and dont have wall piercing like idk it's a thought

[toxic basalt]

ok can we just ignore the fucking position problem for a moment

[swift wharf]

But other than that a delay would be indeed be good imo

[oblique geyser]

Your problem is only a problem because of the position

[toxic basalt]

scal just instantly starts attacking the moment the last brother dies

[small timber]

the current solution to remember scals' pattern is by counting how many hellblast she does (who does that) or repeat the cycle so much that you literally phase her at the exact same time each run, which is completely unrealistic to expect of normal player that is not trying to nohit

[ripe owl]

No cause it's one of the counterweights

[toxic basalt]

and this happens in many other different ways

[swift wharf]

The part of the fight feels rushed [for the lack of better word]

[strange panther]

yeah ut youve said it like

[dense ferry]

No because that's exactly why you are having problem with this

[strange panther]

20 times

“positon”

like ok thanks

[toxic basalt]

All I showed was one example

[strange panther]

i dont think they saw

[small timber]

I didn't refer to the video at all, it is his fault but at the sametime scal should not work how it currently is to begin with

[swift wharf]

kill brothers [which, in theory are important] -> immediately change back to calamitas

bad ai

[dense ferry]

If you can show more times where you died because of this, then that would be appreciated

[ripe owl]

You didn't show it, you didn't even die to it in the clip, you died to the Bro's projectile, which doesn't show a good example

[drowsy plank]

i do think it is a bit weird she instantly starts attacking it really makes her feel more like an AI that met her attack conditions than a powerful witch methodically trying to break you down

[strange panther]

i feel like ur getting hung up on the wrong detail here. again, uninvolved person

[swift wharf]

This is what I mean as well

[strange panther]

but the clip doesnt seem to really be the point, the lack of delay is

[oblique geyser]

SCal is totally fine as is

[swift wharf]

The boss doesn't feel organic there

[strange panther]

lol

[swift wharf]

For the final boss

But Scal is literally never getting a change so XD

[oblique geyser]

The only thing I would change about her is seekers being unable to fire during dashes but even that can be mitigated

[dense ferry]

I do agree with this, but I'm afraid that could be sacrificing gameplay for thematic cohesiveness

[ripe owl]

It's not the final boss anymore, now that place is tied up by SCal and Exos

[swift wharf]

Kills yoi

[oblique geyser]

Exos aren't a real final boss

[swift wharf]

I don't think a delay and a laugh would break gameplay

[drowsy plank]

i dont think adding a single laugh after brothers death is going to sacrifice gameplay cohesiveness frankly NOT adding it would leave it in a worse state

[strange panther]

well isnt scal not supposed to be the final boss

[small timber]

scal right now can randomly fling herself across the map if she phase in/out of mobile after BH ends, fire vertical hellblast because BH ends, burst a gigablast in your face after brothers etc

and this have nothing to do with difficulty or skill issues, this is a problem with shit attack pattern that creates a situation that is completely unreasonable for normal player to keep track with that serve no purpose except for cheapshotting

what I am saying is: if you want to make the fight more difficult, do it by adding BH6, make the arena smaller because it had been proven by hard fact that it is still doable (nohit even), not make it so "remembering position" become mandatory to not get screwed over

[cobalt pewter]

Yharim is the final boss

and no, he doesn't exist atm

[ripe owl]

Not yet

[strange panther]

sorry that feels like semantics

[swift wharf]

yharim will fall before being released

[dense ferry]

Ok I'm more concerned about

[strange panther]

but yeah being the 2nd to last boss probably

[dense ferry]

How the fuck did you two had the same idea for the laugh?

[strange panther]

also important

[swift wharf]

I didn't

[cobalt pewter]

yharim will be GONE before he can step foot in MY tcaalamity mod

[swift wharf]

Cog mentioned it earlier

[dense ferry]

A

[swift wharf]

And it makes sense

[dense ferry]

Wouldn't add a laugh myself but yeah I understand it

[drowsy plank]

i came up with it and also she uses them a lot when transitioning into other attacks so it just works yeah

[ripe owl]

Calamitas laughed her ass off during the fight and died (Peter death pose)

[crude geode]

Cal’s snap into fighting after brothers is really jarring

[drowsy plank]

if you really wanted you could perhaps even put some new attack there in death mode to make the fight more distinct and guarantee no weird AI shenanigans

[dense ferry]

Byeah I do want to make Cal in general feel more impactful

[oblique geyser]

It's not that hard to know that she will attack right after brothers

[crude geode]

It’s probably workable if you’re a noshitter but like

[dense ferry]

Same for Exo Mechs

[swift wharf]

give death mode attacks in general

😭

[crude geode]

It feels out of place

[cobalt pewter]

noshitter do not have a say in design

[oblique geyser]

You don't need to know what attack she will do

[dense ferry]

.

[drowsy plank]

death mode when i

debuffs x2 faster projectiles faster dashes 0 other AI changes

[swift wharf]

reverse appeal to authority

[dense ferry]

Infact I give fuck all if a Boss is unfair only when nohitting

[strange panther]

well yeah, but knowing what attack shes doing and knowing shes doing an attack is two different things

[crude geode]

Yes.

[swift wharf]

death mode is a watered down malice

[oblique geyser]

Because if you're not pinned against a wall by another projectile you can dodge anything

[swift wharf]

i cannot stress this enough

[crude geode]

Yeah

[cobalt pewter]

again, calamity will never beat the unique ai allegations

(and I agree with death's state atm)

[swift wharf]

but don't worry guys the death reworks will exist soon!!!!!!

[oblique geyser]

:clap: bring :clap: malice :clap: SCal :clap: back

[dense ferry]

Seriously fuck off

[ripe owl]

Another one

[drowsy plank]

inshallah

[swift wharf]

death reworks promised since malice removal tm

[dense ferry]

Can you stop acting like we are just throwing ideas and that everything in this fucking game needs to be instantly reworked?

[ripe owl]

No, it's literally one of the most horrible parts of the Boss Rush

[dense ferry]

For fuck's sake, shut up, we are working

[swift wharf]

promised since malice removal tm

[oblique geyser]

What's the status of my suggestion to revert Boss Rush to Death AI btw?

[swift wharf]

it has been a good while

[drowsy plank]

tbf there is

port

[swift wharf]

but I do understand that with* the lack of the former working force it's hard

[dense ferry]

Yeah, exactly

[golden tulip]

gotta agree with eclipse here and i rarely do

[swift wharf]

:lolhd:

[oblique geyser]

Bot broke so I don't think it got sent even though it had the star threshold

[swift wharf]

idk why I said whithout there

[crude geode]

Port is my main reason I’m not complaining about plans not being implemented

[ripe owl]

Stagnation

[swift wharf]

the lack of implementors is reall

(is that a word)

[drowsy plank]

hey uhhhhhh fuckin uhhhhhhhhhhh
who was it

[cobalt pewter]

probably uhh

[crude geode]

.

[dense ferry]

Eclipse shut the fuck up for fuck's sake

[swift wharf]

bruh

i'm not wrong tho

[dense ferry]

You are

[cobalt pewter]

discord drama.gif

[strange panther]

you sound like a destiny 2 player

[swift wharf]

it's like uhhh ozz and uhhh idk who else working on it rn

[dense ferry]

You literally are

[strange panther]

sory

[dense ferry]

Maybe the 10 programmers we have?

[swift wharf]

surely

[cobalt pewter]

just clone ozz like

at least 3 times

[oblique geyser]

Where do I suggest an emote addition

[cobalt pewter]

it'll work inshallah

[swift wharf]

mod mail

[cobalt pewter]

prolly modmail

[ripe owl]

ModMai

l

That wasn't supposed to happen

[odd geyser]

this gives me the idea to suggest that brimstone fire emote which is basically 🔥 but brimstone looking

[swift wharf]

alraedy in a cal subserver iirc

[drowsy plank]

port it

[ripe owl]

Not the main server
Downvote spam

[swift wharf]

i have a bot for that actually

[toxic basalt]

this happened at one point during BH4 @dense ferry

[drowsy plank]

???

[swift wharf]

guh

[odd geyser]

what

[drowsy plank]

damn bro u sure did get hit
idk what this is trying to prove

[ripe owl]

[crude geode]

That’s no cal snapping to you

That’s just

[odd geyser]

how does it look tho

[crude geode]

SCal

[ripe owl]

That you can fly into SCal apparently

[swift wharf]

like a red fire emoji

[toxic basalt]

sigh

[tired haven]

The funniest part is that minimap is so OP it would have single-handedly saved you

[crude geode]

Minimap moment

[toxic basalt]

too focused on surviving BH4]

[ripe owl]

Actually yes

[drowsy plank]

bro really just typed sigh

[odd geyser]

guess I don't need to suggest my own edition of it

[golden tulip]

meister bro if everyone is telling you that it is your fault it probably is
take some time to reflect

[dense ferry]

Yeah this one is more fair for you to complain about

But ultimately I do think it was avoidable

[toxic basalt]

see?

[odd geyser]

(version I made for my group chat to use along with a few other fire emotes)

[toxic basalt]

SEE?

[ripe owl]

Open minimap
Press Tab once
???
You now have a map overlayed on your screen

[crude geode]

Minimap when it ruins fucking aesthetics/looks in exchange for slightly better boss fights

[ripe owl]

True

[strange panther]

i think if ur a casual player this is fucking balls

[golden sonnet]

^

[strange panther]

but if ur nohiting um idk

i dont nohit

[ripe owl]

Let's not forget that casual players would not do nohits

[swift wharf]

this is gon get subjective

[golden sonnet]

I kinda agree the hits are pretty cheap, and adding like .5 second delay would make it much more reasomable

[tired haven]

Well, 0.5 seconds would change nothing in this particular clip

[golden sonnet]

true yeah

[strange panther]

well we arent talkijg about this specific clip i think you’re um

[toxic basalt]

also like, yes, I know she was there, but I really couldn't do anything about it because of the brimstone monsters

[strange panther]

whats a metsphor that works

idk

[tired haven]

cherry picking?

[toxic basalt]

if I went back down I would of just died to them

[strange panther]

no cause u didnt do it

idk

the clip is weird

[tired haven]

strawmanning?

[drowsy plank]

i dont get it tbqh you have to keep track of scal during the fight yes but i dont see how this is cheap like you can see her moving on the map the delay would change nothing here plus im pretty sure she has one so like???? i do not get the point of this clip and i do not agree with rebecca how this is cheap this is just a basic aspect of the fight that yes you need to keep track of both her and the bullets especially during her dashes so???

[strange panther]

but the point is the hypothetical delay is what is important

[oblique geyser]

Again, on you for ending BH4 in a bad spot

[strange panther]

not the clip itself

[oblique geyser]

You're supposed to end in the opposite corner from where you started

[strange panther]

sorry ill get bakc to you if i can think of smth

[toxic basalt]

Wyvern, I have always done that route, and it has often been a good one

[tired haven]

All I tried to say is that the delay may not be efficient at what's the immediate problem here (which might be the fact you just get bodied by 2 moons and scal)

[toxic basalt]

just

[strange panther]

oh i dont think i picked thag up sorry crab bar

[toxic basalt]

find some way to stop this shit from happening because I'm tired of it happening

[strange panther]

i misunderstood u

[drowsy plank]

wouldnt it make more sense to add an audio cue for when bullet hells end or something

[oblique geyser]

A delay wouldn't even help there

[strange panther]

idk

[toxic basalt]

the other Idea I had was have her teleport to the center when a BH starts

[oblique geyser]

And might even make it worse

[strange panther]

if only someone had suggested this

[stable kiln]

her teleporting to the center would make this far worse :P

[oblique geyser]

True...

[ripe owl]

Nah not really

[tired haven]

That opens opportunity for being telefragged, albeit it is a lesson many only need to learn the hard way once

[toxic basalt]

...what? You know she doesn't deal contact dmg during BHs?

[oblique geyser]

The year is 2025 and every attack is now telegraphed due to unfairness complaints

[tired haven]

Oh, I misread. Thought you meant the end of BH

[swift wharf]

telegraphs are cool :(

[strange panther]

yes this is a good way to make a boss approachable for players who do not nohit

[drowsy plank]

king slime telegraph

[swift wharf]

GUH

[oblique geyser]

...

[tired haven]

if skeletron has one, king slime is not far away

[crude geode]

God I love subjective design opinions

[strange panther]

approacheble isnt the right word

like

[crude geode]

[strange panther]

excessively approachable

?

um

[toxic basalt]

I'll probably change my suggestion to the teleport one, if that ends up being somewhat better

[drowsy plank]

tbf his teleports technically kinda do have them because u can see the particles when he reforms

[strange panther]

idk

[oblique geyser]

Fargo boss on steroids level of telegraphs is what's required according to some people

[strange panther]

like obviously the boss should be hard but i dont see how an audio cue or some other indicator a new attack is starting ruins the boss

[small timber]

^
"just know an attack is coming", "just position yourself right" is the most shitty nohitter argument that I can imagine for Scal

because for a normal player, who is not a nohitter, they are not supposed to know what happen next, chances are they just try to "just dodge the attack" instead of "position yourself specifically so that you don't get hit after this specific attack"

not only is this super unintuitive but also extremely specific, because in normal run the player have even less chance to "set up" on correct positioning and attack pattern cycle due to less consistent DPS output and a general lack of practice with the boss; because turns out if a new player just begin fighting the boss they will not be experienced with it

and no, this is not a "because you are nohitter your opinion is immediately invalid" argument, because this specific case is way worse for normal player than nohitter, because nohitter can actually do all the adjustments above while normal player will just constantly at random point face bullshit undodgeable attack slam into their face

[oblique geyser]

It's not a bad argument, because people should expect that the boss will attack

I did not say they need to know which attack it will be

Because they're all dodged basically the same way

[small timber]

they need to because how else will they know how to "position correctly" when a phase start or end

[ripe owl]

The only situation when they don't know what happens next is when they have never fought the boss
By the time you defeat SCal you have at least 200 attempts, which already means you should be familiar with the fight

[strange panther]

im imagining a dark souls boss without any animations at all so its just particles happening

sory

[ripe owl]

And I am talking about a normal defeat here, not a nohit

[strange panther]

i know it really isnt the same thing

[deft yew]

that one hyper-specific position where you can get literally telefragged when sepulcher starts

[oblique geyser]

You learn the fight

[rich grail]

200 attempts for scal is over exaggerating

[swift wharf]

you do have to consider that the average player will eventually get used to the fight

[oblique geyser]

You're acting like non nohitters are incapable of learning

[ripe owl]

Well, that's what I experienced

[rich grail]

Lo

[ripe owl]

Idk how it is now, maybe it's miles easier

[swift wharf]

but audio/visual cues are epic

[toxic basalt]

Wyvern, SCal is a pain to learn, I've nohitted her on rev and death and I still have issues with her

[deft yew]

when you start a bh during a mobile and she stores the momentum and slingshots into you

[strange panther]

yeah but an audio cue makes the learning curve less sharp

[drowsy plank]

sans telegraphs

[ripe owl]

My last SCal was in the very first Draedon update

[swift wharf]

supreme sals

[rich grail]

Exo box exists

[crude geode]

The problem I have with SCal’s behavior is the lock on she can do where she immediately snaps to the left of you after a bullet hell. Though I’m not sure if it still happens.

[rich grail]

And even without it it's not too bad

[swift wharf]

when the post Scal gear is good against scal...

[oblique geyser]

Me when the hard boss is hard

[toxic basalt]

that depends what she did last when you enter a BH

[crude geode]

Which is gonna vary wildly?

[toxic basalt]

there's a difference between "Difficult" and "really annoying"

[crude geode]

Especially for the average player?

[rich grail]

Depends when you do exos

I do them before

[swift wharf]

you can't really use exo box as an argument

[ripe owl]

Gotta expect everything during nohits

[rich grail]

Fair enough

[ripe owl]

The game wasn't balanced around them that much

[rich grail]

But still she's not that bad

[ripe owl]

You're expected to take some hits at some points

[swift wharf]

it was ages ago

[small timber]

almost all people I saw never learn yharon is supposed to be dodged side ways instead of fall down and drag distance because it is only a pattern that you need to just practice an absurd of time to notice (aka: you only get it just by attempting it)

nearly all of any cal pt I seen by normal player never learn how to "position correctly" because it is not an assumption they will make, because the most immediate solution is to "just dodge it" and treat the occassional cheap shot as "well this is just unlucky"

this has nothing to do with "non nohitters do not learn", it is how specific this thing is to learn without just dumping stupid amount of attempts into it while getting cheapshot constantly

like I said, if you want to make the fight harder, add BH6, make arena smaller, not "remember and learn positioning and attack pattern"

[toxic basalt]

if certain attacks feel like you can never consistently avoid them, that's when fairness gets called into question

[swift wharf]

outrun the yharon bh

[oblique geyser]

SCal is also a lot harder to learn if you're nohitting lol

It's not too bad to learn a fight when it takes more than 1 hit to die to it

[drowsy plank]

this works way too well tbh

[hollow ridge]

^

[swift wharf]

you can even outrun dog lasers so

[deft yew]

[ripe owl]

If certain attacks feel like you can never consistently avoid them - a dumb idea but try a different approach

[hollow ridge]

Also he posted it LOL

Uh I don't agree with it

[strange panther]

this is a statement

[hollow ridge]

It's fine the way it is

Probably

[crude geode]

Yeah this behavior

[toxic basalt]

SCal gives you very limited options on how to avoid her, especially in the latter half of the fight

[crude geode]

It’s very wack

[oblique geyser]

It's objectively true that you learn more when you have more allowance for mistakes

[hollow ridge]

Slinging :D

[swift wharf]

thank you so much for playing my game, bye bye

[drowsy plank]

callie going to the moon

[strange panther]

im not disagreeing i just think its really funny

[oblique geyser]

It's why I practiced most of the post moon lord infernum bosses in godmode to learn the fights before nohitting them

[deft yew]

super calamitas 64

[swift wharf]

flyyyy me to the moon

[toxic basalt]

once the brimstone monsters come out, say good bye to ever considering going the other way

[small timber]

no this suggestion will probably cause more problem, I unironically think your previous suggestion (despite many people opposing it) is better than this one

[dense ferry]

Ok yeah I enjoy this one a lot more

[crude geode]

Lmao

[swift wharf]

the J

[oblique geyser]

Teleporting to the center is probably worse than a delay lo

[deft yew]

scal has a lot of problems with a lot of solutions, none of which are ever remotely happening

!

[hollow ridge]

And what difference would this change even make

[toxic basalt]

ok then tell me, what would happen?

[crude geode]

God I love differing design opinions

[hollow ridge]

Yeah delay works

[swift wharf]

I mean

[oblique geyser]

If she dashes directly after BH she's always in the center

[hollow ridge]

Cus then you can react

[swift wharf]

maybe she COULD tell that she is going to the middle

[oblique geyser]

And she also doesn't need any change

[hollow ridge]

Even if it did

[toxic basalt]

wyvern, shut up

[swift wharf]

i have no idea why i made an emphasis on the could

[strange panther]

wow true

[hollow ridge]

This wouldn't really be the way of going abt it

[strange panther]

thats why we discuss them!!!

[hollow ridge]

Damn

No need for that lol

[small timber]

tldr is if she always teleport (and still don't have delay), she will just continue to cheapshot except this time it is even less manipulatable and harder to keep track of

[oblique geyser]

This

Delay also makes it harder to manipulate her position

[hollow ridge]

Iirc either learn where she is and what attack she's doing

[bright crag]

You speak as if we have been sitting around since then :p
It hasn't been implemented yet because there simply is a lot to implement
We are busy

And, as you pointed out, drama definitely hasn't contributed to the situation

[oblique geyser]

You can use map overlay if you're that concerned about her positioning

[swift wharf]

noway

and yeah to make the center tp not shit

you'd probably have to make it predictable

which would be easy to manipulate

[bright crag]

As to the suggestion
I do think it's an entirely avoidable situation, but I don't think a delay in her attacks would do harm

[toxic basalt]

...I suggested to make her go to the centre when a BH starts...not in any other situation

[bright crag]

A tp seems like a bandaid fix

[swift wharf]

oh

[hexed hamlet]

[toxic basalt]

have you guys seriously been misreading the suggestion?

[oblique geyser]

SCal is all about positioning and starting things in a place you can dodge

[hexed hamlet]

i didnt read the suggestion

[hollow ridge]

Moyai

[hexed hamlet]

its the scal teleport to middle?

[toxic basalt]

yes

[swift wharf]

tri saw the message in devchannel

[crude geode]

Based

[bright crag]

I have read the suggestion, but I don't see how positioning is a problem

[hexed hamlet]

well

[hollow ridge]

Cheap frags if u don't know what ur doing

[hexed hamlet]

she can be a annoyance when doing the bullet hell

as she cover a whole zone

[toxic basalt]

??????????

[hexed hamlet]

?

im agreeing with what you are saying

in the suggestion

[toxic basalt]

wait

[hexed hamlet]

trully a calamity to see

[bright crag]

If you put her in a bad spot before starting a bh, that's kinda on you though

[oblique geyser]

Exactly

[hexed hamlet]

i said she being in random spots can be a annoyance

[strange panther]

make her invis during BH and then have her appear in middle with some sort of indicator like a red dot before she appears

idk

[toxic basalt]

again, I can't control it properly

[oblique geyser]

The fight is all about positioning

[bright crag]

She's never in random spots

[hexed hamlet]

the fight is all about having the exo box

[crude geode]

[rich grail]

[hexed hamlet]

draedon gaming powers sweep Scal

[oblique geyser]

:12504:

[swift wharf]

just use demonshade armor

[bright crag]

The one case where I think that positioning can be unfair is, as you've mentioned, post-brothers

[toxic basalt]

Post BH4 too

[hexed hamlet]

placing it in the middle dont seem to be a hard thing to do and i guess it could help to remove some unfair deaths

[toxic basalt]

because brimstone monsters just limit your space even further

[hollow ridge]

:1984:

[bright crag]

That's much more predictable than brothers

[cobalt heath]

did the health bar segments sugg go trough?

[hollow ridge]

The massive enemies make It harder :noway:

[toxic basalt]

being forced to go a certain rotation for the rest of the fight is not fun

[swift wharf]

I think that is the point of the moons

[small timber]

no it didnt, didnt get enough votes

[bright crag]

Then you can simply
Put her in a proper position

[small timber]

but this ancient one did a long time ago so soon™️

[bright crag]

It's not like you don't have the tools to do so

[ripe owl]

Well, fun or not, you have to deal with it

[cobalt heath]

aight

[toxic basalt]

and I have dealt with it. I feel like you're thinking that this is my first time trying to nohit her

[ripe owl]

You're making it look like truth

[cobalt heath]

scal could use a revisit in general and the tp is just a band aid for the time being

[ripe owl]

Tbh

[toxic basalt]

wow thanks

[swift wharf]

this

[deft yew]

this

[cobalt heath]

her gameplay is very much 2019, outdated I would say

[strange panther]

this witch is quite flawed

[deft yew]

except guess who's NOT getting a revisit

[wide river]

I've noticed conversations always develop to this whenever DaMeister posts a suggestion
I understand that they're very often biased towards nohits, but countering the suggestion with "Skill issue" and "You problem" is incredibly pointless and doesn't contribute to anything
It only makes both parties angrier to each other

[swift wharf]

I was trying to not say that

[swift wharf]

But this looks so jarring 😭 infernum and SLR spoiled me rotten 😭

[cobalt heath]

I would not go fixing the flaws w small improvements here as she defo needs a larger scale redesign as a boss

[deft yew]

we cover each other's Hard And Controversial Things To Say

[swift wharf]

a lot of bosses do

[drowsy plank]

scal truly is the best 2019 boss but she is still from 2019

[toxic basalt]

I'm only suggesting small changes as I know there is no way she will ever get big changes/reworks

because stubborness

[swift wharf]

we know

[cobalt heath]

do you?

[hexed hamlet]

yea

[crude geode]

It happens more in this chat than with just this one poster tbfh, Byeah

[swift wharf]

truer words have been said

[hexed hamlet]

no hit..rs

[cobalt heath]

I dunno I defo could see scal getting a bigger scale rework at some point as the polishing before yharim

[deft yew]

ok look here

[swift wharf]

[hexed hamlet]

idk if scal has rework plans (i wish exo mayhem had one but i also dont think there is plans for it), but some bosses have

[deft yew]

i am a nohitter and i strongly agree with practically everything that has been said about this

but i also think how it's been presented and how people go back at each other is stupid

[hexed hamlet]

well by the time yharim comes it might get one id

idk

future ™️

[drowsy plank]

shrimply touch up scal a bit when calclone gets her visual rework

[cobalt heath]

scal does need one tho as rn she is just a dps check

[crude geode]

Yes

Which is kinda the problem that one of the pins was trying to address

[bright crag]

SCal is probably the boss that has the least chance of getting reworked from what I see

[cobalt heath]

sadge

[wide river]

^
People just need to chill, arguing for the sake of arguing doesn't help anyone

[cobalt heath]

this hurts my heart

[swift wharf]

name calling 😭

[bright crag]

I do think a lot could be gained from it, but at the same time I really like current fight

[swift wharf]

if scal gets atleast a better arena i will be ok

[hexed hamlet]

only thing i dislike from current scal is the brothers

[drowsy plank]

uhmmmm... stinky!!!1!

[crude geode]

In fact two separate bullet points are dedicated to not being a dickhead

[cobalt heath]

I just dislike dps checks in general

[deft yew]

getting dameister and wyvern in the same room is like pulling the pin out of a grenade

[hexed hamlet]

they have such cool design but still behave like their eyeselfs

[swift wharf]

brothers are indeed a feature

[wide river]

Wdym you don't like random red box that just spawns in

[deft yew]

can bros please have a dash attack

please please please

[swift wharf]

TRUE

[strange panther]

brothers take up space on my screen

[swift wharf]

let the punchy guy punch

[cobalt heath]

brothers rn are just a moment

[drowsy plank]

inaccurate it would be like putting a pin back into the grenade

[deft yew]

supbros are HURTING to have a physical attack

[hexed hamlet]

maybe when the cal clones brothers get their reworks some touch ups to Scal brothers could be done

idk

future ™️

[drowsy plank]

sounds fine to me

[crude geode]

Cal clone brothers

[swift wharf]

infernum sbros 🤩

[drowsy plank]

at least it is on the radar

[hexed hamlet]

infernum bros

[swift wharf]

infer and num

[drowsy plank]

new super infernum bros

[cobalt heath]

Ik fab is pretty happy w scal atm but she needs a better identity

[swift wharf]

:redmario:

SHE DOES 😭

[cobalt heath]

and my god redesign the moons

[crude geode]

Can we get off of doom/hopeposting and back to the sugg

[deft yew]

this is the part where infernum inevitably gets brought up and inevitably starts an extremely hot debate that accomplishes nothing!

[swift wharf]

we need more people to work on supreme calamitas

[hollow ridge]

!!

[deft yew]

KILL the moons tbh

[drowsy plank]

sbeve calamity

[swift wharf]

i can get the nobel prize now

[bright crag]

We need more people to work on bosses :p

[cobalt heath]

yeah

[swift wharf]

😭

[crude geode]

You need more people

[hexed hamlet]

well she does have a identity

[swift wharf]

stip carrying 😭

[deft yew]

we need Any people to work on bosses

it has literally been a solo job for seven years

[hexed hamlet]

was one of the first bullet hell bosses from what i remember besides blushemagic

[strange panther]

things are generally better when you work on them more

[hexed hamlet]

its just that nowadays there is so much bosses like that

[deft yew]

scal's identity in my eyes can be boiled down to

[strange panther]

i will accept my nobel peace prize digitally

[oblique geyser]

SCal Bullet Hells are iconic

[bright crag]

And it's not even a matter of "Fab monopoly" anymore, it seems like an issue of
Nobody is really stepping up to work on boss AI, outside of gfb

[deft yew]

spend the boss fight not fighting the boss

[drowsy plank]

like i said!!! scal is the best boss from 2019!!!!!!

[swift wharf]

blushiemagic

[hexed hamlet]

ahmtaba

[cobalt heath]

though stuff like cryogen, ravager and as need it way more than scal

[swift wharf]

the mod.

[strange panther]

sekiro released in 2019

[bright crag]

I think most Cal bosses have shallow approaches to their identity and themes
Infernum does that much, much better

[strange panther]

sorry

[hexed hamlet]

dark souls released in 1994

[cobalt heath]

demon of hatred still giving me nightmares

[strange panther]

maybe 2nd best is more achievably

[hexed hamlet]

feeling old rn

[drowsy plank]

super mario bros released in 1842

[crude geode]

Aquatic Scourge when every part of it fucking sucks

[cobalt heath]

exept the theme!

[hexed hamlet]

calamity mod released tomorrow

[deft yew]

i love this channel

[drowsy plank]

scourge is one of the bosses ever

[hexed hamlet]

aquatic scourge infernum do be quite interesting tho

[swift wharf]

be the change and lead the people

scourge death animation

[strange panther]

ok also so did devil may cry 5

so scal is being bunped to possible 3rd

[swift wharf]

aquatic scourge items too are yeah yeah uhuh

[cobalt heath]

leviathan

[drowsy plank]

me when desert scourge 2

[crude geode]

The items are the worst part

[cobalt heath]

is one of the bosses

[bright crag]

I would... if I knew how to code

[deft yew]

living organisms getting the crap beaten out of them when they display internal trauma like they're supposed to

[swift wharf]

he truly was scourged

[bright crag]

I have been guiding weapon design though
Hopefully you'll like what I've cooked

[strange panther]

i dont plan to do terraria modding ever but what coding language does it use

[wide river]

The cooking is real

[strange panther]

just out of curisoity

[swift wharf]

c#

[strange panther]

col

[crude geode]

Aquatic Scourge weapons that aren’t just scourge 2?

[cobalt heath]

stip you seem to be doing what pixl was doing back in the day

[drowsy plank]

C# but also you have to deal with
Terraria

[bright crag]

What was pixl doing?

[swift wharf]

COOKING

[crude geode]

Yes

[swift wharf]

the mage rework.....

[odd geyser]

the cookage I guess

[cobalt heath]

cooking indeed

[hexed hamlet]

sentenced to armor spriter

[swift wharf]

the mana rework....

[hexed hamlet]

the worst fate

[crude geode]

My poor mana rework…

[strange panther]

what does this mean

is terraria an object

[bright crag]

Yeah, I'm definitely inheriting that

[cobalt heath]

terraria is spaghetti code

[strange panther]

this makes sense

[bright crag]

I'm proudly the Mage Guy™️

[strange panther]

most big games are

[drowsy plank]

terraria is badly programmed

[crude geode]

Based based based

[hexed hamlet]

the red code curse

[bright crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/958418404769943572/1121584362786398238/attachment.gif

[swift wharf]

the first step to getting into terraria code is not getting into terraria code

[cobalt heath]

my poor mage rework

[hexed hamlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/989215075049029684/1115422758944378921/ezgif-4-5ce6522261_2.gif

[strange panther]

most games where it receives large content updates tend to not be well made

[wide river]

Terraria is notoriously awful to deal with because it's all spaghetti code
Source: How the entirety of Calamity broke because they made Lava Slimes not drop lava

[swift wharf]

payday

[strange panther]

and infact held together with glitrer glue and popsicle sticks

[cobalt heath]

pixl was the clear voice between devs and us I miss her dearly

[royal tapir]

The Incident

[hexed hamlet]

ror2 beloved

[strange panther]

what the fuck

[crude geode]

Yeah

[swift wharf]

pixl cooked so hard she even leaked out stuff to the future doc people it was so cool

[drowsy plank]

rollercoaster tycoon:

[hexed hamlet]

i """leak""" everything i do on spoiler talk

[strange panther]

just turn the 1s and 0s correctly, stupid

shrimple as