suggestions-discussion

[novel belfry]

i think it's not that bad
but goddamn spez is an asshat

[limber zealot]

the only thing im still sad about is how they remove the transition to second phase

it was a rly gud feature imo

[drowsy plank]

the "transition" was he glowed white while healing, and continued attacking you while invulnerable which was

a decision to be sure

people only miss it because they dont remember how bad it was
im sure along with the resprite yharon will probably finally be given an ACTUAL phase transition

[cobalt pewter]

let's be real here, the only reason people miss it is because the transition to the main song

[drowsy plank]

i mean the song transition is still there

the only thing we lost in the overhauls was the pre-rematch theme

[north oracle]

Text wall inc

Nerf the i-frames of Celestial Tracers

Celestial tracers have an effect where if you take over 200 damage in a single hit, they grant 30 iframes. This is an extra half second of time where you are unable to be damaged, on top of the 2/3s of a second by default. Nearly every attack dealt by the bosses at this stage deals more than this much damage, except with the tankiest builds, which makes this mechanic a terrible way to nerf this accessory. As such, your iframes are nearly doubled by this one accessory.

A similarly tiered accessory that grants iframes, rampart of deities, grants only 20 more for a maximum of 50 and is known for being broken even with just this many. Along with this, rampart’s iframes stack with celestial tracers and other effects, resulting in some incredibly powerful tanking abilities.

This already powerful effect is put on top of an endgame flight accessory, granting a large amount of flight and other mobility benefits. This combination of effects is too powerful to put on a single accessory, and leads to celestial tracers being an extremely powerful accessory that flips the meta of wings being better than tracers purely because of this effect. Along with this, there is no foundation in any of tracers downgrades to justify giving them any iframes at all, let alone this many. No other set of wings grants the same benefits that celestial tracers do.

To return the balance between these tracers and the wings on the same tier, I suggest reducing the amount of iframes given. This would allow the tracers to keep their unique effect without making them the powerhouse of an accessory that they currently are.

[royal tapir]

Pre-rematch theme before is current phase 1 theme

(Infernal Catharsis Rebirth)

Original Infernal Catharsis played in rematch phase 1, and that was the one removed

[glass arch]

many, many people

[north oracle]

…everyone who knows how good they are

Read the suggestion

[glass arch]

because fun fact sticking 30 extra iframes on wings is usually not a good idea

ok

so use wings for there

tracers are still completely fucking busted

no you wont

[north oracle]

Cool

Do that then

You don’t have to at all

[glass arch]

you never have to use boots

[north oracle]

^

[glass arch]

just because theres better options doesnt mean something cant be broken

[small timber]

celestial tracer iframe issue is widely known (among the balance devs) that I think if they are not nerfing it yet chances are a suggestion will not make it happen

[north oracle]

…no you don’t

[glass arch]

you never have to even have hermes boots

[small timber]

especially that it will take 2 more weeks (min), and get enough votes and then have a chance to get into dev server

[quiet kernel]

You are most of the time in the air

[north oracle]

Fair
But I’ve seen nothing about it so far, and it’s definitely a needed change

[glass arch]

so then why act as if you need the upgrade for them over 10 tiers after you get them

[quiet kernel]

Where the boots dont really benefit anything

[glass arch]

which is good for scal

but unneeded for exos

[north oracle]

True, not like it’s going to get votes anyway

[glass arch]

because world tour

[royal tapir]

Technically Celestial Tracers have more control because more acceleration byeah

If you can control that

[north oracle]

^

They have better control anyway

[royal tapir]

This is a weird argument anyway, and the argument given doesn't negate the suggestion so like

[small timber]

eh mui gud suggession abot nerfing mi stuf? niet neva happening

50 votes

[north oracle]

Yeah lmao

[north oracle]

I’ll post it anyway as there aren’t any actual issues with it… probably nothing will come if it but oh well

[glass arch]

time to make 400 alts and get a new most voted suggestion

[north oracle]

[royal tapir]

[north oracle]

There we go lol

[north oracle]

@ashen warren .... please read the rules, joke suggs aren't allowed

[blazing kettle]

so this the type of shit being sugged at 2:30am

[north oracle]

it's only 9:30pm here, i want to actually have normal evening calcord and this is what i get

[hollow ridge]

Amazing suggestion

[ashen warren]

It is not a joke, we in fact do require the sinister potion

[small timber]

Suggestion: "Environmental Friendly Potion"

This potion is environmental friendly, it don't use water or other herbs in order to prevent the potential waste and pollutant substance created during the potion brewing; it don't even have the glass bottle used for holding the potion liquid because creating grass produce a lot of carbon dioxide which is harmful to the environment

10/10 probably will not cause flood 100 years in the future

[north oracle]

ture

[halcyon zealot]

April fools awaiting on the horizon

[north oracle]

one day of every year

[halcyon zealot]

[cobalt pewter]

iframes on tracers shouldn't even exist

[dull kite]

i frames shouldnt exist

suggestion: remove iframes

[north oracle]

true

[cobalt pewter]

unironically would make a better game

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Astral Grass Drop Hay]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[distant gyro]

ugh grass

[grave zinc]

@glass arch - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove Cosmic Elemental]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@atomic shell - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Fairies not appear on Lifeform Analyzer while Fairy Boots are equipped]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give Mirage Jellyfish a Chance to Drop Jellyfish Necklace]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[north oracle]

nice

[distant gyro]

10% chance idk

[grave zinc]

@golden sonnet - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Old Duke Reduce Bloodworm Spawn Rates After Defeat, Not After Encountering]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[north oracle]

thank fucking god

[grave zinc]

@twin timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Fusion Feeders drop shark fins]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@gaunt tiger - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Calamity's raunchy/inappropriate NPC quotes not appear when blood and gore is set to off]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@vernal moat - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Stop profaned enemies from spawning in the brimstone crag]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[cobalt pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-alerted-the-horse-horse-gt-when-the-gif-24722142

[worthy fiber]

IT'S OVER

goodnight sweet cone

[grave zinc]

@ashen warren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Celestial Tracers should have Auric rejection immunity.]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[distant gyro]

you also get immunity to astral ore touching if you... for some reason touch astral ore????

[north oracle]

...i still don't know how i feel about that tbh

[small timber]

oh no, how will we do the deep indepth Cosmic Elemental lore now

[worthy fiber]

can't believe they are killing off elementals, who is next

[small timber]

I don't know cultist assassin or something

[twin timber]

💋

[twin timber]

omg eciipse hiiii

[swift wharf]

hi hello hi

saged and green dilled suggestions

[grave zinc]

@kindred creek - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Providence Drop an Elysian Wings/Aegis for each player in multiplayer]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[swift wharf]

rare W

[stable kiln]

@swift wharf

hello

[swift wharf]

thatsme

GLASSWEAVER GAUNTLET GANG
WE LOVE WAVING GLASS

[twin timber]

@stable kiln hi burgy

[stable kiln]

hi tf2

[halcyon zealot]

[fervent orbit]

yippee

[atomic shell]

[quiet kernel]

This message is sponsored by the starlight government

[random talon]

so, there's just no potion?

[shut pollen]

yep good suggestion

that is not sarcastic

[ripe owl]

What the fuck is this "officially implemented" wall?

Not like I'm against it but still

That's a damn lotta suggestions being implemented in one day

[swift wharf]

i don't think they're all implemented in one day

just shown in one day

[distant gyro]

no it was all in a span of 2 hours

doing localization is too boring

[ripe owl]

I'm not surprised, lime genuinely most of them are like one minute deed

The ones that took the most are probably Profaned accessories in multiplayer and uuh what was it

The quotes one

Or so I think

[distant gyro]

nah it's all hay

[small timber]

now just hope 1.4.5 tmodloader port will not add a "small functional improvement patch" of completely changing how ILEdit work

"guys we make ILEdit more accessible you will love it, right?"

[ripe owl]

Oh

[small timber]

something something calval already added it but I am not sure why will they add mini robotic organic spider monster as a pet

[ashen warren]

why not doe

[swift wharf]

when the no reasoning

[sleek turret]

reasoning: pet :33333

[ashen warren]

There's no reason behind pets in the first place if you think about it

[swift wharf]

no reasoning behind the ❗ either

:3

[sleek turret]

calamity doesn't add mm pets right

just relics

[swift wharf]

yeah

[sleek turret]

tbf they'll add them when someone sprites them i believe

[ripe owl]

There are plans for Master pets

Iirc

[gilded scroll]

so
apparently
Celestial Tracers get to have auric rejection immunity, but not Yharim's Gift

seems logical to me

also, why are we giving an already powerful item another fucking buff

[sleek turret]

idk really

[golden sonnet]

[shut pollen]

the immunity line (which is what the boots are) needed to be explored further by the tracers and the angel boots anyways

the problem is in the iframes anyways right

[wide river]

The iframes are the most egregious part of Celestial Tracers, yes

[shut pollen]

the fact that no immunities are added from terraspark on was a choice i dont think i would have done

oh

how busted is this?

[small timber]

terraspark is never supposed to be the "immunity" line

at max it is fire block immunity

[wide river]

Very
Considering most hits you receive at that point are close to 200 or over 200, you pretty much always trigger that unless you've specced into a heavy tank build

[shut pollen]

water walking, ice speed, fire walking, walking fast

definately a hazard immunity line

[small timber]

I dont even think in vanilla does Terraspark boots give On-Fire immunity, it is a calamity buff to obsidian skull

[shut pollen]

i agree with the idea of immunity if your standing on it but not run into it from the side for the record

[small timber]

I dont think celestial tracer should have auric rejection because of the reason "boots is hazard immunity line", it is because "celestial tracer use auric bar"

[shut pollen]

its a combo of both

its the hazard immunity line at the highest level which uses the auric bar

[small timber]

if boots really have hazard immunity line it should make you trap immune too, or astral ore immune

[shut pollen]

awesome qol, fits logically with an item, fits logically with just the idea

[small timber]

the tldr of the extent of boots being immunity line is just it having lava waders, nothing in its material indicating it should have more than what lava waders provide

[shut pollen]

sure if you can figure out where to place that in the line that fits logically go for it

[small timber]

they don't

because you are not supposed to trivialize every hazard in the game; the only justification of lava waders is that at least all its function are provided by potions

so at max it is "QoL" instead of straight up "hazard immunity" line

[distant gyro]

it's more like immunity to touching blocks extending

[shut pollen]

yeah, i have a really hard time explaining my thought process ig

[distant gyro]

obsidian skull gives immunity to touching hellstone, not giving immunity to flame traps

[shut pollen]

yeah

yall do good work

👍

[gaunt tiger]

Rare velvet W

[ripe owl]

[glass arch]

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

[ashen warren]

HOLY SHRIT

Good

Stupid enemy

[gilded scroll]

fuck cosmic elemental

bad enemy

[wide river]

But my renewable Terragrims

[gilded scroll]

begone, useless granite elemental ripoff

rest in piss you wont be missed

[wide river]

And someone recently (well, "recently") resprited the banner
Hopefully the Cosmic Cone from Calval stays

[worthy fiber]

kills it out of spite

(better suggest an alternative way to obtain it)

[swift wharf]

shimmer or smt

[worthy fiber]

no one's going to know it exists

[drowsy plank]

terragrim...??

it's a vanilla item lmao

[random talon]

wtf is a terragrim?

[swift wharf]

!wiki tgc:terragrim

[red storm]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Terragrim

[swift wharf]

arkhalis copy

[random talon]

oh yea

that thing

[swift wharf]

so the actual arkhalis can be a dev item

[novel belfry]

HE'S DEAD.

[ornate kestrel]

THE CONE IS DEAD

[marble moat]

why yall hatin on the cone :/

[wide river]

Cosmic Cone best vanity smh

[hybrid steeple]

cone lives

peace and love on planet earth

[wide river]

REJOICE

(Also that DoG pet suggestion is pretty much the same as the Aureus one before it, isn't it?)
(It just has more reasoning, but I still don't think it's valid)

[north oracle]

There’s still no reasoning in it Tbf

It’s just add this, it could be this

[wide river]

Indeed
It's bordering on being a SIS, if not completely a SIS

[north oracle]

@silver mulch
Formatting + you need more (any) reasoning + this is a specific item suggestion as it stands

[grim tusk]

• dedicated item

[drowsy plank]

what the fuck does this even mean

[wide river]

@ashen warren Several things are wrong with this
First off, DoG is canonically dead after defeating them, so I don't see how this'd even make sense to unlock
Second, this has all the signs of a joke suggestion
Third, this is very much a SIS

[ashen warren]

NOOO BUT GAY WORM

[hollow shell]

You coulda just dismissed it as a joke sugg and be done with it

[ashen warren]

😢

[hollow shell]

But uhh yeah no joke suggs please, especially not ones like those

[ashen warren]

Ok sorry

I'll keep my lgbtq hcs of the eldeotch monstrosities to myself

[wide river]

I prefer to make sure people know what's wrong with suggestions, but you're right

[ashen warren]

Glad I now know DoG dies

That's an interesting little tidbit

(And makes me sad)

[novel belfry]

He's canonically dead after defeat? NOOOOOOOOOO--

[wide river]

Yes, nearly every boss barring a few, are canonically dead after being defeated
Supreme Calamitas is one of the exceptions, however

[drowsy plank]

deus of all bosses is another lol

[north oracle]

Slime god too, he runs initially

[ripe owl]

What happened?

[wide river]

Suggestion to add a gay DoG NPC

[ripe owl]

Isn't DoG, like, a creature with no gender?

[mortal rock]

dog is prob a guy tbh

[ripe owl]

I don't think you really can give a gender/sex to a creature like DoG

[wide river]

Most of the characters in universe refer to DoG as a "he", but I've also seen a few mentions of them being referred to as "it"
DoG does seem to be at least classified as "he/him" as far as people like Yharim are concerned

[ripe owl]

Damn ic

Missed a bit of lore here

[mortal rock]

Dog is as cocky as most guys lol

[ripe owl]

Some girls can be cocky too yknow

[mortal rock]

They don't have a cock

but ik

[drowsy plank]

he/it devourer of gods

good for him good for him

[worldly sparrow]

first, slight formatting issue

[wide river]

Second option is a nono, it's in the don'ts

[worldly sparrow]

and second, as said above the second is specifically stated for you not to do

[wide river]

Also like, if the issue with starting the fight is because you have to go in the water, then just get Gills and Flipper Potions

[ashen warren]

That's not the only issue, just one that came to mind

[drowsy plank]

#suggestions-voting message

[ashen warren]

Because now I need 2 extra potions for 1 boss that I'll never use after this boss

[drowsy plank]

anyway i am flagging this atm because yes leviana items are a dont atm

you cannot suggest an explicit boss summoning item for them

??? is the intended way

[ashen warren]

Ah sorry

[drowsy plank]

furthermore i feel like this just overlaps with this already passed sugg about improving their spawning consistency

[wide river]

I do get that it can be tedious sometimes on refights, but hopefully that'll change at some point

[ashen warren]

Well yes but that was a year ago, I didn't know it came up before

Sorry

[drowsy plank]

the typical tradition for suggs is to see if something already exists before posting, but if it was old enough, reposting is fine, the main issue is the spawn item mention

[novel belfry]

I'm just wondering, why is ??? still the only way? at the very least, I'd expect a summon item that can be obtained after the Leviana fight

like the hive bosses

[swift wharf]

that would be very fair

[novel belfry]

i'm just curious

[swift wharf]

because currently the spawn method is iffy

because zerg moment

[wide river]

I'd prefer unique spawn methods over yet more click-to-spawn items
But if Leviana is just incredibly tedious to fight repeatedly, then perhaps something else should be added

[swift wharf]

that is correct

perhaps playing a tune wirh the harp could spawn her

[novel belfry]

That's... actually cool

[wide river]

Maybe something obtained after the boss that makes ??? spawn more often, but doesn't directly summon her?

[swift wharf]

one of her drops is a literal harp

[novel belfry]

anger anahita by being a better musician than her

[swift wharf]

hell you could make HER harp summon her

[novel belfry]

i think the desire to give bosses more unique summoning methods is a nice direction

[wide river]

I would be fine with that
Helps deplete the already bloated drop pool of Leviana, and gives them a better way to summon compared to "click-to-spawn" (if we're going with my idea of making ??? spawn more often)

[novel belfry]

making scal not summoned by another eyeball summon, but rather offering calclone's ashes to an altar was great, but then there's the codebreaker

a summon method that is intended to be worked on throughout the entire game

[wide river]

Indeed

[swift wharf]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dXll36-xbMA&feature=share7

i could not disable the reply

byeah using boss drops as their own summon is cool tbh

[worldly sparrow]

and then theres me who only starts building it when it becomes relevant to progress

[high nest]

kill a dolphin or shark with her harp to piss her off?

[novel belfry]

okay, that's even better

although a bit tad too cruel perhaps

speaking of anahita, that ice shield mechanic she has should probably just be removed

i don't see any reason for its existence

[swift wharf]

cirno

[novel belfry]

that's an even bigger reason for its removal

[wide river]

True...
Anahita when Touhou

[high nest]

tying into the aquatic heart being usable

if anahita has no ice shield the heart has no reason to and i like that accessory

[novel belfry]

maybe it should be repurposed honestly

maybe as a phase 2 thing?

[high nest]

make the shield shoot little shots in an x spread from her in phase 2 to incentivise breaking it

[novel belfry]

hmm

also cryogen has the EXACT same mechanic

which is a little more acceptable because that's pretty much iconic to him, but there's other ways to use those ice spikes, like how infernum uses them for an attack

but unlike anahita, it's not set at specific parts of the fight

[swift wharf]

it is kind of weird, yes

would make more sense if it was like a coral shield or smth

[high nest]

bubble shield, increases her contact damage cause its one of her detonating bubbles

[novel belfry]

imo anahita can keep that ice shield design

[drowsy plank]

i think both ice shield should die

aquatic heart have a normal and cohesive design impossible challenge

aquatic heart is like if aquatic scourge dropped aquatic emblem the first time you shot him at a 10% chance or something

it's a preHM accessory dropped from summoning a hardmode boss

it just feels confused

[wide river]

Not to mention how some of its effects only work after having defeated Skeletron, which is just ???

Like I can get progression locks on other stuff like weapons, but some accessory that's mainly focused on water traversal? That seems unnecessary. Just lock the actual combat effects behind Skeletron instead

[drowsy plank]

the ice shield i guess could be pretty strong

and it gives decent movement buffs in water but like

fuck water arenas

[swift wharf]

strange accs

remember when it was busted as fuck

it has the skeletron locks because it was the best preboss acc

[crude geode]

yep

I remember farming it preboss it was funny

[novel belfry]

anahita's history is pretty funny in general

in the span of one update, this happened:

1.4.5.001:
Renamed from "Siren's Heart" to "Aquatic Heart".
Renamed "Siren (Blue)" to "Water Elemental" and "Siren Speed" to "Ocean's Blessing".
No longer grants defense, life regeneration, or creature detection, and no longer provides Town NPC shop discounts.
Resprited it, its Water Elemental, Ocean's Blessing, and Ice Shield buffs, and its Ice Shield Cooldown debuff.
Removed the green variant.

[swift wharf]

funky accessory

[novel belfry]

which also references a few funny things about what it once did

[swift wharf]

one color was for female siren and the other for male siren

[novel belfry]

no, it just was green, for some reason??

I have zero clue. all i know was that it was a dev item for someone

[swift wharf]

they had different player sprites

[wide river]

Oh jeez the shop discounts, I remember that

[novel belfry]

who upon leaving, decided that all siren related content related to them should be removed

which is why i think anahita is no longer "the siren"

[swift wharf]

that is correct

[wide river]

Her time as "The Siren" ended when she became Anahita

[swift wharf]

byeah it was a really funny acc

i think the male and female/blue and green variant had different effects too iirc

[sleek turret]

it was really funny because you could get it early on and get really easy stuff with it

then when you defeat skeletron it scaled up the stats

[novel belfry]

i distinctly remember one time I was... not happy about anahita getting called anahita, because I thought the "Siren" worked better as a boss name

and gave her a nice juxtaposition to Leviathan

[wide river]

Call the Leviathan "Jeffrey"

[novel belfry]

Anahita and Jeffrey

[drowsy plank]

vote for tracers iframe nerf i beg

[north oracle]

[ashen warren]

Ok

[small timber]

a (player) nerf suggestion will get enough votes before year 2050

0 copium

[ashen warren]

fr

only balance nerds are going to actually vote for that sadly

[hollow ridge]

the duality of voters

[north oracle]

1. Long sugg

2. nerf in the title

3. Mentions tracers vs wings

[random pasture]

Or buffs for that matter

Yoyos my beloved

[small timber]

there is a reason #1042197406776827914 exist, it was exactly because 99% of buff/nerf suggestion never got enough votes

[random pasture]

Ah yes #unknown my favorite discord channel

[north oracle]

Unfortunately that thread does seem to be pretty focused around weapon balance or I would’ve put it there

[small timber]

I think accessory/armor balance also qualify?

in fact the warding nerf was posted there I think

it is just exclude boss balance because Fabsol (who is responsible for boss balancing) do not look at the thread so it is pointless

it is just it is much harder to say "an accessory is broken" without it already being known because there is less accessory compare to weapon

while you can randomly have beam sword killing moon lord or something and not get spotted

[north oracle]

Hmm, I read the pin to mean that it was for weapons, but I can see how it could be items in general

[random pasture]

Ok cool

[hollow ridge]

Strage

(The bot

[shut pollen]

warding used to be even more than it is now??

[small timber]

tldr way more yes

I don't have other progression, but for the highest tier (post-Yharon or Post-DoG?) it used to be 15 defense, then 12 defense, then now is like 10?

and it use to scale way faster particularly at the start of hardmode; which is nerfed from 8 to 6

[random pasture]

The problem is that like

Its not really an issue with a specific weapon, but a mechanic designed to make all yoyos across the board slightly weaker

So idk if it actually would belong there

[austere cargo]

Moving meteorite back to pre-evil boss makes sense for the reasons given, but I wonder if there are better options than the old shadow orb condition. e.g., have it unlocked by Eye of Cthulhu

[drowsy plank]

locking it behind a boss defeat kinda like dryad could be interesting

not like any in particular just one of them

[marble moat]

that's probably better than preboss too

[gaunt tiger]

kinda crazy that so many people suggest summoning methods for siren & leviathan

for a lot of reasons, not least of which that it's a "don't"

[wide river]

A lot of people don't like how they don't have an easy summon method beyond "Kill this enemy in the Ocean", and a decent amount of people just prefer to not have to wait a lot
I do agree that perhaps there could be an alternate method, but just a "click-to-spawn" item for them is probably the worst way it could be done

[gaunt tiger]

I think a sea shrine wouldn't necessarily work either
make it have a very high spawn rate, and have a way to have it not spawn (or make it undamageable)

are siren earmuffs cal or inf

[wide river]

The Sirenproof Earmuffs are Calamity, yea

[gaunt tiger]

oh, is voodoo demon doll inf then

weird

yeah I see no reason siren can't have a very high spawnrate but be limited to 1 in the world at a time

at least at night, high spawn rate

[wide river]

I had an idea that there could be an item to simply increase the spawn rate of ???, rather than just spawning it in
Sort of like a lure... a Siren's Lure, if you will

[gaunt tiger]

nah

just make it be a default

is siren/levi post plantera?

[wide river]

Yea, they're intended post-Plantera

[gaunt tiger]

it could just be "at night, post plantera, the spawn rate of ??? is MUCH higher"

becuase siren myths and night time

[wide river]

I think that could work, yeah
Fits thematically too

[glass arch]

nope

[drowsy plank]

no that is also calamity lol

[drowsy plank]

that is already in the game

the main issue is it drops back down after defeating them

so community grinding can be hard

but at the same time like

you wouldn't want one to spawn when you're prepping for duke

??? is in a weird place tbqh

[random pasture]

Make it only spawn when raining

[wide river]

In the worlds I've been playing in that would change nothing
(Context: It is raining at least 50% of the time in most playthroughs I've done)

[random pasture]

Torrential tear exists

[wide river]

I forget that thing exists half the time

[pine star]

So your worlds are British?

[wide river]

[tired haven]

Ngl I still have a baseless suspicion that calamity makes worlds british

(and also kansas because same happens to wind)

[surreal hinge]

Zerg Potion

[drowsy plank]

calamity users reading comprehension impossible challenge

[surreal hinge]

[fervent orbit]

so is there a reason for ??? not spawning during lunar events?

[drowsy plank]

@little dew please read the rules

im just going to delete this because this was both a don't in the rules and also something that is already implemented in the next update

https://twitter.com/CalamityModTeam/status/1663661572772773888

Calamity Mod (@CalamityModTeam)

ATTENTION ALL "HP BAR STYLE" USERS:

I bring good news. 👀👀👀

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248

Twitter · May 30, 2023, 9:40 PM

[ashen warren]

maybe it works like martian probe

only spawns when no other events are happening

[little dew]

i apologize for my foolish mistake, but i did not know this was a planned change as i do not have a twiter account. i belive the rules on resprites forbid "Any suggestions asking for something to be resprited based on poor quality." i do not see how my suggestion was saying the sprites were poor quality. maybe you should reword the rules to say no resprite suggestions at all to make it more clear for someone foolish like me. im very sorry for my mistake and will not do it again.

[errant wren]

that wasn't why it was deleted

[wide river]

It wasn't deleted because of the resprite don't
It was deleted because of the health bar "frequently suggested" don't

[errant wren]

it was also already stated somewhere here that the hp bars were already planned anyway

[little dew]

could you please inform me where this dont is located as i seem to be unable to find it

[wide river]

Here, let me show you

[little dew]

please, thank you

[wide river]

At the very bottom, there's a section called "Frequently Suggested Suggestions"

[little dew]

i know this is my mistake but would like to gain a little more clarity on the situation

[fervent orbit]

wat situation??? 1.4 tml doesnt have support for custom hp for bars and fancy

thats it

[little dew]

yes i do in fact see this now, this is in fact my mistake as i said. however i thought the rules for suggestions ended after the section for server suggestions and as such i did not scroll down any further

this is my own foolish mistake and i would like to apologize to anyone i may have inconvienced

[wide river]

Oh, it wasn't an inconvenience at all
It was just a small misunderstanding that was easily fixed

[worldly sparrow]

well yes for mods at least, im 90% sure texture packs do the trick

but then, not many people know how to make a texture pack

[little dew]

do you know of anywhere where i can see the other new changes coming with the next update? i would like to know what to look forward to.

[worldly sparrow]

#changelogs

[fervent orbit]

i mean resource packs arent tml so like????

[fervent orbit]

#mod-announcements too

[worldly sparrow]

ive gotten one to work in tml before

[fervent orbit]

thats not wat i meant

[worldly sparrow]

then what did you mean

[fervent orbit]

they arent from tml, its a vanilla feature

[worldly sparrow]

yeah, true

[gritty cargo]

w for mages

[ornate kestrel]

I want my Fancy style, screw the bar style

[cobalt pewter]

cope

[blazing kettle]

do you think they are really only adding the bar style?

because yes thats actually what they are doing

[crude geode]

[novel belfry]

How do I word a suggestion to make the spacing between the lasers in DoG's laser grid attack wider?

[frosty trellis]

You don't because why do you need to? It's fine as is

And also you can dodge the laser walls without being in between the grids

And not to mentioj the game gives you plenty of space. Hell, infernum dog limits it severely and get it gives you enough space to reasonably dodge the laser walls

[small timber]

yeah the problem with laser walls is not related to the width of the gap at all

[frosty trellis]

Id argue the gap is even a bit large and too forgiving tbh

[small timber]

it is more that it basically comes without warning and only have a very short telegraph at that which require basically photographic memory unless you are ready 24/7

[frosty trellis]

Yeah that's the main issue is no warning

[small timber]

or literally count the seconds after each laser wall which is unrealistic expectation from the player

[frosty trellis]

Infernum gives a very nice warning

In dog goes away

So you have time to prepare

[novel belfry]

i'd say its absurdly small, because its so fast

[small timber]

well I can try to repost my "give DOG proper laser wall telegraph suggestion" no. 24292483429 and then failed to get enough votes

[novel belfry]

in general, that attack is just terrible

[frosty trellis]

It really isn't

Laser walls are not terrible lol

Have you tried

[novel belfry]

its how its done that is my problem

[frosty trellis]

Not dodging the intended way

I don't even dodge the laser walls the intended way I just fly straight up while making adjustments horizontally to adjust for each pattern

The reason I'm cool with the laser walls as it minus the lack of telegraph is because you don't have to dodge them as intended

Which makes that part of the fight semi interesting

[frosty trellis]

I don't even count the seconds I just have a feel for when they happen + I stay close to dogs head for the fight so I see the dissapear thing

[novel belfry]

thats not even the point of the sugg

[frosty trellis]

Even then it doesn't really need to be any wider at all
It's literally just the start of the laser walls need to be better telegraphed and that's it

[novel belfry]

I mean… it would work as well?

Yours would work as fine

[small timber]

tldr is making the wall wider (because of lack of telegraph) is not fixing the problem, it is just compensating for it

it will be like say if, king slime right now can teleport on top of the player; and instead of fixing this teleport on top of the player problem they just make it so king slime deal 80% less damage 1 second after teleport

[novel belfry]

Laser grid attack needs reworking, but I probably shouldn’t have gone for a specific solution

Whatever, I tired rn, I’ll talk about this later

[wise pulsar]

is there Aether biome in calamity 2.0.2.3 ??
ive been trying to look for shimmer for hours

[willow widget]

no

calamity is in terraria 1.4.3

also #help-advice-read-pins

[wise pulsar]

sry , how do i check the calamity's terraria ver?
ill stop after this question

[willow widget]

should just say in manage mods section

[high nest]

Modloader 1.4.4 isnt in full release yet

[ripe owl]

That uh

Huh?

Fishron wings are not Fin wings upgrade

[high nest]

Fishron wings just say move better in water

they are higher tier and the same general idea

They should probably be an upgrade to wings you can get as soon as hardmode starts

[tired haven]

I mean, it would make some sense but 1) items aren't required to become better in all niches to be an "upgrade" (and fishron wings base mobility is far exceeding the water upside of fin) and 2) they still aren't connected to each other aside from vague effect niche

[hollow ridge]

@versed mural there are mods for that

Try using nycros nohit efficiency mod

Or you can also see attempts in boss checklist if I do remember correctly

[versed mural]

OH THANL YOU

[hollow ridge]

gg

[hollow shell]

I'm surprised you didn't outright mention that having a town on the ocean to make use of the Ocean Pylon would cause ???'s spawn rate to decrease, making it difficult to fight her
and a spawn rate boost would compensate for the hostile mob decrease, or making her be considered a passive critter for that purpose

rather instead using it as an opportunity to make her more refightable, presumably implying that the rate would be even higher when near a town than if there was no town at all?

It feels like this would be stronger as a kind of "fix" suggestion

tho maybe what I'm describing isn't actually a problem? I'm not sure how large the town radius is VS where ??? usually spawns

[north oracle]

it can definitely be a big problem with a small ocean and a town right on the edge

[cobalt pewter]

shrimply just give them a harp spawner that you need to play this https://youtu.be/xvFZjo5PgG0 on in order for them to spawn immediately

[small timber]

I keep forgetting that pylon reduce spawn rate because that is such an odd function to me, since usually town already reduce hostile spawn rate so it always feel to me is a double down

[tired haven]

I don't think that's an actual feature 🤔

It's just the town (up to 3 npc's, to be specific) reducing spawnrates. Pylon just gives a compelling reason to have those NPCs around

[small timber]

is it? I keep hearing people say pylon reduce spawn rate or something and I was always confused of "since when did it do that"

often I heard is "calamity pylon should also have it" or something like that

[tired haven]

It's the first time I hear about that, for sure

Neither pylons page nor NPC spawning page have info on that, either

And the 3 NPCs effect is strong enough (cuts spawns by 30x in expert mode) that pylon reduction will be redundant

[small timber]

hmm yeah

[small timber]

sorry if I don't complete understand it; you recommend that the suggestion to be a "fix ...." suggestion? Since I don't fully understand it

I think main thing is just currently ??? is not treated as a passive creature? It is a hostile creature

town radius is not very large (iirc), but should be sufficient if your purpose is just to fight anahita; it is ok enough as an option

[blissful osprey]

what do you guys think about a shroomite helmet for miscellaneous ranged weapons? e.d. stake launcher/nail gun/flamethrowers?

[tired haven]

Desktop 1.4.4:
Shroomite Helmet now also applies its bonus to any Ranged projectile shooting weapon which is not otherwise included by the Gun or Bow helmets. This includes such weapons as Dart Guns, Flamethrowers, and Star Cannons. This category of weapons is being referred to as "Specialist" weapons.

[blissful osprey]

oh

sorry crabbar, i didnt know ;-;

[tired haven]

All good, but yeah this idea was so popular it became vanilla

[blissful osprey]

where do i read these? 🤔

i thought i was being smart

[tired haven]

changelog portion of https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Shroomite_armor

[blissful osprey]

oh

[small timber]

oh ok yeah you mean that, yeah will include that in the suggestion

[fervent orbit]

stake launcher and nail gun are bow and launcher respectively

for future reference

[north oracle]

True

[ripe owl]

"launcher"
bow

"gun"
launcher

[fervent orbit]

[halcyon zealot]

[tired haven]

[blissful osprey]

[hybrid steeple]

[swift wharf]

nuhuh

[random pasture]

[worldly sparrow]

1. it's perfectly fine as is, considering zerg potions are availible
2. formatting issue

[glass arch]

wasnt this already suggested and added

[wide river]

Added? Not that I can see
Suggested before? Likely

But yes the formatting is ech at the moment so that should get fixed

[outer bobcat]

why cant i find any bone lees in the dungeon?

[sleek turret]

not a question for this channel but they're rare dungeon enemies that can appear after you defeat plantera and go to the dungeon there

[outer bobcat]

yeah, just had a strange moment of not finding one after minutes of searching with zerg

[sleek turret]

yeah that can happen

also i agree with this sugg even though it's the smallest issue ever (it's probably changing values in the code)

[ashen warren]

@silver mulch fix the message formatting

[grave zinc]

@lavish condor - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make inactive power cell factories and chargers stand out more in Bio-center Labs]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@random talon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Improve the Alternate Ways to Get the RoD]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Hallow/Evil Spawn in Predictable Columns]

It has received enough votes to be passed on to the dev server for voting! You'll be notified again when a verdict is reached.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[random talon]

yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

epic

[golden sonnet]

Please

[wide river]

Very small batch, this
Hoping for that Hallow/Evil spawn one to pass

[drowsy plank]

🙏

[worldly sparrow]

same

[fervent orbit]

I BEG PLEASE

[worldly sparrow]

i would agree even more with the hallow/evil spawn sugg but it uses comic sans

still hard agree

[ripe owl]

@eager bobcat please talk in this channel

[eager bobcat]

sure I guess

[ripe owl]

[random talon]

when the future content suggestion hits

[ripe owl]

@marsh vigil wrong formatting + future content suggestion

[marsh vigil]

What

[hollow shell]

Calamity isn't on 1.4.4 yet

No shimmer

[ripe owl]

Read the document at the top of the posting channel

[wide river]

Also... boss summons and event summons are already infinite

[ashen warren]

Calcord users try to read challenge

[marble moat]

lets frickin go

hopefully this gets passed

though changing the worldgen sounds difficult, i wonder how code intensive it is

[wide river]

It's possible to do, based on the Don't Dig Up seed
I don't know how hard it'd be to make that be normal behavior, but it's definitely possible

@silver mulch Responses to suggestions go here, not in #suggestions-posting

[drowsy plank]

jesus chesus

[ripe owl]

Ikr

[drowsy plank]

@eager bobcat@silver mulch Do not have conversations inside of suggestion posting. The level of not-reading-the-rules here is really putting me on the edge of just straight up Warning both of you.

I know 8 other people pinged you already, but this is my job and I'm going to be logging this.

Furthermore @silver mulch your suggestion isn't going to get into voting because you didn't format it correctly.

[ripe owl]

Casual cog W

[grim tusk]

@silver mulch cant have number specifics on suggestions

Just remove the “down to 25” and you’ll be fine

[ripe owl]

Hey Shade, that's unfair, my lab blocks sugg not only did get into voting but accepted #suggestions-voting message

[silver mulch]

Ok

[ripe owl]

Still doesn't fix this issue

[ashen warren]

Bruh

[ashen warren]

Please add a title

[wide river]

You could've just edited your initial suggestion, but I guess this works
You need some reasoning too

[worldly sparrow]

yet another 🗜️

[ashen warren]

Suggestions posting is the channel ever today

[ripe owl]

Tied up with spoiler channel

[silver mulch]

I title it "phantoplasm duplication de-expensiveness"

[ripe owl]

[worldly sparrow]

[wide river]

A title such as "Reduce the amount of Phantoplasm required to research" would be appropriate, methinks

[ashen warren]

[fervent orbit]

try to read the rules impossible challenge

[ashen warren]

Calcord cannot read

[fervent orbit]

i should write the suggestion myself clearly

[ashen warren]

I agree

[ripe owl]

Ture

[ripe owl]

You're reading my mind on jod

[ashen warren]

Please I beg of you do it

[wide river]

We've given this person like no time to edit their own suggestion, give them a few minutes first

[fervent orbit]

@night eagle no

[drowsy plank]

bro where are these people coming from

[fervent orbit]

kdfmkf

i hate this

[ashen warren]

WTF

[drowsy plank]

anyway i deleted your second suggestion because you can't have two identical suggestions in posting @silver mulch
please just edit the original

[ripe owl]

The suggestion of all timr

[ashen warren]

This horde of mindless zombies that can’t read

[fervent orbit]

#suggestions-discussion message

[silver mulch]

Noted

[fervent orbit]

the guy just made a sugg and left to help advice LMAO

[drowsy plank]

@night eagle you can just use one of the mods that already helps reduce lag like the ones literally called stuff called "lag reduction" or nycro's nohit's projectile/dust settings

[wide river]

Other way
They came from help advice and went here

[night eagle]

Why?

[wide river]

.

[night eagle]

Those things dont work

[drowsy plank]

I do not believe you have actually tried them

[night eagle]

Ive tried even tho my system is beefy

[ashen warren]

What makes you think calamity will find a way to reduce lag if so

[fervent orbit]

if terraria is at 40fps with a "beefy" system then clearly its not beefy at all

a near decade old cpu and 8gb of ram is fine for 60fps
source: me rn fr fr

[ripe owl]

"my system is beefy"
100 Chrome tabs in question:

[night eagle]

bro

[shut pollen]

I got a 2k pc but that shit has just crashed in boss rush in multiplayer

rocking trippy mushroom so idk

but man

[golden sonnet]

you playing infernum or something

[shut pollen]

it’s wild

[night eagle]

I have a
Ryzen 7 2500x
Superclocked 1070
And 16 gb of ram
So how is that running at 40 fps

[tired haven]

me maliciously spawning 1000 lightning sentries to complain to relogic that their game runs at 20 fps

(1 with frameskip)

[night eagle]

I have no frame skip on

[night eagle]

The boost clocks are crazy on it

[ripe owl]

Okay let's be real

[golden sonnet]

are you in multiplayer

[night eagle]

no

single

[ripe owl]

Does your game run on 40 frames constantly?

[golden sonnet]

are you playing infernum or something

[night eagle]

no infernum and its 40-43

constantly

i have no fps cap

[golden sonnet]

[north oracle]

that's an infernum issue, it lags hard for no apparent reason on some pcs

[ripe owl]

Literally said "no Infernum"

[north oracle]

fuck

i can't read

bye

[ripe owl]

[night eagle]

lol

[golden sonnet]

average calamity player

[night eagle]

could switching it over to a ssd boost performance?

[tired haven]

Since the game loads most of itself into RAM, doubt it. SSD should only really affect initial loading

[ripe owl]

Okay so

1. Maybe we should move to #help-advice-read-pins?
2. Ctrl+Shift+Esc and send a screenshot (not here)

[worldly sparrow]

what is with this channel and bad suggs today in particular?

[golden sonnet]

It goes through phases

[ashen warren]

Sometimes there’s only good suggestions for like an entire day other times it’s like this

[novel belfry]

@spark ravine you should add a title to the sugg as a whole

like

[spark ravine]

done, sorry

[ashen warren]

Looks good otherwise

[frosty trellis]

Death dest does not need to be as large as it is either tbf

[small timber]

Abit late but isnt death destroyer size nerf in changelog?

And the "cap number of probe" do not make sense, it is directly tied to how well your weapon destroy segments, so if you have way too many probes chances are you are also melting the boss

[halcyon zealot]

😭 you're not exactly wrong but you're also overdoing it
It's a WIP, don't sugg that @abstract forge

Also that's part of the point of the mod, Cal introduces new content, it should probably be used

[ripe owl]

This is a balancing suggestion

[small timber]

@abstract forge balancing is much more complicated than just "nerf weapon", there are weapon that are good and weapon that are bad; there are accessories that way overtuned for the progression that can make bad weapon look good; there are build variety where people build full dps or full tank; there are potion, buffs, or even external mod buffs like AlchemistNPC Lite that we literally don't know if the player is using, and for each boss different weapon also works differently where a piercing/homing/aoe weapon literally can be 5x as effective on specific bosses while do nothing on others

in fact chances are what you said is attributed to some specific overtuned weapon instead of majority of the weapon, because you have to use every single weapon to know if all of them should be tuned down

[halcyon zealot]

Balance

Balance is a WIP

[small timber]

#1042197406776827914 message and another thing is calamity boss fights are, in fact, not supposed to last that long in general case

for reference this is the "expected killtime" of each boss in the game if an "average weapon"

[halcyon zealot]

A never ending WIP

Even in that thread, try to shrink the scope of your discussions to specific weapons/situations

[tired haven]

narrator: they did not, in fact, shrink the scope

[small timber]

"use arbalest"
PLEASE NERF EVERY SINGLE RANGER WEAPON IN HARDMODE THEY ARE TOO OP

[tired haven]

tbh just make deathmode autoenable 10x hp config. nobody complains about master mode bosses dying fast so clearly terraria devs were onto something

[small timber]

instead of 10x hp just readd rdr

[tired haven]

nah, but you see, reactive dr is artificial and cheap, hp bloat however is used in most games and is transparent

[small timber]

hear we out, what if we make rdr more transparent

like, we have a literal "damage cap" display on the health bar that move down with the fight, and you can visibly see the bar decrease to 0% throughout the fight

[tired haven]

[ripe owl]

Okay hear me out

You can deal only a certain amount of damage per hit

Like 108 for idk Destroyer

It can't be increased by any means, only decreased

[fathom aspen]

that sounds unfair to slow weapons or stealth attack

[ripe owl]

RDR

[halcyon zealot]

[peak mulch]

guys i found a way to get pretty much infite flight

and its accesible very early into the game

should i report that

[buoyant idol]

#1052323733961977947 Attach client and server logs

[peak mulch]

like its not bug but

i shouldnt work that way

it works by spamming super dummies under king slime mounth

mount*

[sand marlin]

Won't work on boss fights anyway

[peak mulch]

yea but

u can get to floating islands easy

early in game

[buoyant idol]

Yeah, that’s definitely exploitable

I’d make a report since it kills sky exploration

[peak mulch]

yea i did

it works better with queen slime mount tho

because it can glide

but still can be done with king slime mount

[buoyant idol]

You need to submit the log files, otherwise it’s invalid

[buoyant idol]

But this is getting off topic, let’s go to the report

[peak mulch]

wdym by log files

[peak mulch]

yea but i didnt seen anyone do it before

[swift wharf]

that sounds too much effort for

being better than just getting a gravitation potion

[buoyant idol]

It’s an inf grav potion, allows you to go over dangerous areas like the crimson

[swift wharf]

damn

[marble moat]

sounds like a lotta work to avoid building a platform

[buoyant idol]

Really isn’t, you just stop sugarcoating it once you press f + lmb + space

[peak mulch]

Alr

Reported it

[worldly sparrow]

for this sugg

#1042197406776827914

[golden sonnet]

that is not for boss fights

[worldly sparrow]

ok but also

calamity isn't balanced around death mode...

it's kinda meant to be hard

[glass arch]

that doesnt mean death mode should be unbalanced

[worldly sparrow]

right, we dont like malice

[glass arch]

and if you've ever fought death destroyer you will know just how overtuned it is

[worldly sparrow]

ive fought him

i thought he was fine

[random talon]

when the SIS

[grim tusk]

@lethal lily

[random talon]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-death-gif-22568614

[worldly sparrow]

oh man

theres literally no use for an abyss pylon too

you literally cant move npcs down there until post-aew iirc

[random talon]

I'm already struggling to space out all my NPCs

we don't need such a useless pylon

[worldly sparrow]

also has this man heard of teleporters

also de-toxifys air?

the abyss has no air?????

[gilded scroll]

abyss pylon is the equivalent of arguing with stupid people
uesless

besides, the abyss doesnt hold much importance anyways

[lethal lily]

ok fair

[lethal lily]

I had put that because iirc if you manage to drain water out of part of the abyss, sticking your head in there deals massive damage

[gilded scroll]

you go in after skeletron to get one or two weapons, another time after CalClone/Golem to get those materials, and then after Polter for a specific set of armor, and maybe Soul Edge

[worldly sparrow]

thats to prevent rushing toward the good loot in the bottom layers early and/or without anti-drowning gear

[lethal lily]

Mfs with Aquatic Emblem and Arctic Diving Gear:

[worldly sparrow]

thats the point

to explore the abyss you need diving gear

its game design here

[gilded scroll]

but yeah, all the abyss is is an optional challenge to get some (kinda mid) loot. it doesnt need a pylon

[worldly sparrow]

its also here to jumpscare people who are unfortunate enough to use their rod of discord a bit too much

funniest shit ever

[gilded scroll]

you can have a good run in calamity without even TOUCHING the abyss

[lethal lily]

Ah yes, the most artifacted superboss in the game

[worldly sparrow]

not a superboss.

[gilded scroll]

*used to be superboss

AEW is just a damage sponge for endgame folks to troll

[worldly sparrow]

calamity has a history of demoting superbosses to just bosses

[gilded scroll]

least Halibut Cannon is still good

[worldly sparrow]

ofc

[lethal lily]

and straight up deleting useless superbosses that make no sense to exist cough cough Future Bosses

[gilded scroll]

yeah, but Wyrm has lore to it. thus making it too important to get rid of

[lethal lily]

ye

[worldly sparrow]

halibut will always dominate endgame ranger (shut up about contagion)

[gilded scroll]

also, getting rid of Jared would be what i call a "modding darwin award"

but yeah, unless the abyss is heavily expanded on (unlikely at best), theres no need for a pylon

[worldly sparrow]

it probably will get a full rework

it alr got a small update

[gilded scroll]

yeah, but i think the devs are too busy with other stuff to touch the abyss

i think Astral is next to get a glowup

[worldly sparrow]

nope, it'll be sunken sea

theres a whole plan to rework biomes

[gilded scroll]

oh right

[worldly sparrow]

sunken sea is next up

[gilded scroll]

yeah, makes sense. im just hyped for the Crags and Astral to get the rework glowup

[worldly sparrow]

im most hyped for the distortion subworld

[gilded scroll]

(unless the Crags have gotten their total rework)

[worldly sparrow]

but that's 99% after the reworks

[gilded scroll]

yeah, i think its gonna be reworks and resprites before new shit is added

new Daedalus armor lookin fresh

[ashen warren]

#suggestions-posting message

Can one person just read the rules

[grim tusk]

Nope, gotta lay the foundation before building it first

[gilded scroll]

yeah, thats fair. was just wondering
cant wait to see the new biomes anyways, i bet all of them are gonna look amazing (and make my game fucking wheeze)

[random pasture]

Ah yes underwater housing

The ultimate shoebox

[frosty trellis]

Void dragon:

[worldly sparrow]

voidragon is outclassed, fun fact

[frosty trellis]

Void dragon outperforms halibut by a bit and especially with aggressive play

I have access to testing times of literally every single weapon in the game, no, Void dragon is slightly better and if you get aggressive much better on BR

It's no Contagion regardless but Halibut is not the premiere

[worldly sparrow]

isn't soma prime actually better tho?

[frosty trellis]

Soma Prime is worse than Voiddragon and Halibut

And then the other dev weapon is

[worldly sparrow]

svantechnical man

its so bad

[frosty trellis]

It's not actually

It's 2 minutes below BR kt

Soma is only 50 seconds below BR kt

Its better than Soma

Lo

[worldly sparrow]

i can never seem to figure out how you're supposed to use svantechnical

close range? idk

[frosty trellis]

It's just weird

But on BR it's:
Contagion
Voiddragon
Halibut
Svantechnical
Soma Prime

[worldly sparrow]

same goes for rainbow party cannon

[frosty trellis]

For ranger

RPC is at least incredibly broken

14 minute BR

[worldly sparrow]

yeah

and then theres uni splitter with the absolute worst cooldown ever but the highest dps

[frosty trellis]

It be like that

[royal tapir]

Ooga booga 18,000 base damage

[grave zinc]

@silver mulch - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Easier phantoplasm duplication in journey mode]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[mortal rock]

damn

[drowsy plank]

funny

[worldly sparrow]

my first sugg in a while lmao

[north oracle]

He’s getting an hp buff iirc

[worldly sparrow]

every boss gets an hp buff, thats a given

[wide river]

I think you need to remove the part where it says "inspired by the suggestion above"
This is mild suggestion chaining, since it references another suggestion

[worldly sparrow]

done

[small timber]

buff lunatic cultist is sure why not, but the way the suggestion suggested buff is definitely strange:

i) LC is getting a massive HP buff next patch
ii) projectile travel faster specifically for cultist will be extremely frustrating, because it is a circle boss; projectile travelling faster basically put a gear cap rather than a skill cap
iii) ancient doom already don't give you time to react (phase 2), phase 1 is whatever
iv) out of anything I never thought lunatic cultist have the problem of "too little damage", multiple of its attack inflict super strong debuff and deal very high damage

meanwhile the 3 proposed moveset change:

1. cultist's attack overlap with other attack, making lightning bolt fire more bolt will just be frustrating to dodge
2. ice blast is the same, just remember you have to dodge other attack while dodging the ice blast (specificailly in phase 2 you will have to dodge ancient doom and ice blast together)
3. is ok, but they need to make dragon (illusion phase) actually not trivial first

• currently you literally just spray in the general direction because you can't hit the wrong clone

[ashen warren]

That was fast

[worldly sparrow]

good points

[wide river]

I wonder what the current record holder for "Fastest implemented suggestion" is

[worldly sparrow]

fastest rejection would probably be "Rework Evil-1 to Evil-2 Progression"

like really that sugg was dumb

where would evil-2 go?

late pre-hm is alr too full, early pre-hm full, mid-hm is also kinda full, late-hm probably wouldn't fit well, and post-ml is hopeless for evil 2 to move into

[wide river]

The issue was less of moving Evil-2, the issue was more of Evil-2 is too close to Evil-1
So the proposed solution was to move some stuff in between, but that was frowned upon because it was just as bad

[worldly sparrow]

true

and moving evil-1 is almost impossible due to how early evil 1 already is

and also due to calamity not wanting to modify vanilla progression too too much

[wide river]

Truly a problematic situation
Can't move anything in between the evil bosses, can't move the evil bosses themselves, and can't remove any Calamity bosses around there because they're often quite significant to the lore

[north oracle]

Also can’t move vanilla bosses because cal doesn’t do that

[worldly sparrow]

like yeah evil 2 is in a weird spot but it is the least weird spot we have

[drowsy plank]

DO NOT GIVE HIM MORE LIGHTNING

[small timber]

to buff lunatic cultist just make every single attack predictive

[ashen warren]

Just give him rdr

[drowsy plank]

tell me you didn't even fucking attempt to read it without telling me you didnt read it lmfao

[worldly sparrow]

what i meant was that the proposals to solve it were dumb

[drowsy plank]

i saw what you said

you did not even attempt to read what i said

because i proposed exactly zero of the things you said afterwards

[worldly sparrow]

i read the convo in this channel about that sugg

[drowsy plank]

but not the sugg, clearly

my proposition was to move crab and deer between evil1 and evil2 to give the tier more of an actual reason to exist by putting content between them to make it less boss rush-y

you just talked about moving it

which i do think would be nice but has already been beaten to death

[grizzled dome]

clearly the answer is to create entirely new bosses to put between evil1 and evil2 (this is a joke if it wasn't clear)

[small timber]

no the correct answer is to create evil3 for hardmode

[weary bane]

avalon moment

[random pasture]

Evil 4 when

[tired haven]

evil 3 is slime god

[quiet kernel]

Nah we should skip straight to evil 13

[tired haven]

moon lold

[swift wharf]

terraria fan ideas corruption plantera

[delicate spoke]

can i add a german translation to calamity in my workshops??

[ripe owl]

#help-advice-read-pins or #calamity-mod-talk

[grim tusk]

I suggest you wait til the port, its way simpler on 1.4.4

[golden sonnet]

@urban berry I would recommend reading the rules on suggestions, as this is a specific items suggestion

[worldly sparrow]

very SIS

[ashen warren]

Suggestions posting users read the rules challenge

[kindred skiff]

They don’t know how to read

[drowsy plank]

@urban berry https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Tactician's_Trump_Card

actually

hm

i wonder if you could talk to the donor about reworking tact to have modes bc rn it's just a pretty fucking mediocre melee weapon that decided to transition to magic damage

[urban berry]

The way I got it is,have you ever played Allusions?

It's a Roblox game where every weapon is a reference to something.

1 of the weapons is the Keyblade. And it has an ability that every use it changes spells.

[buoyant idol]

Thorium has an item like that if you want that

[urban berry]

Spells would be the KH2 Fire,KH1 Blizzard,and KH3 Thunder. Fire would be a area around the player as a burst, Blizzard would be a cone shaped blast,and Thunder is 3 pillars striking soon after each other

[buoyant idol]

Besides talking to the donor, definitely not happening.

Interesting concept though

[random pasture]

I mean

[urban berry]

And, Oathkeeper is kinda a upgraded Kingdom Key in the games it's in.

[golden sonnet]

For the one in #suggestions-posting , is the poster aware cultist gets a massive HP buff next update?

[random pasture]

If anything it should be attacks in reference to fire emblem

[urban berry]

Why? Keybrand is a Kingdom Hearts thing.

[golden sonnet]

I know their sugg focuses on the differences death adds, but it feels like the reason to focus on that is because of how easy it is rn

[random pasture]

Because it is literally the Robin sword made of spell tomes to reference FE

[random pasture]

This thing

[urban berry]

I'm talking about a non donor weapon that's not Trump Card.

[random pasture]

Ik

[urban berry]

Since that's not a Keybrand upgrade.

[random pasture]

I wasn't talking to you

[urban berry]

Oh.

[drowsy plank]

oh yeah tbf i was just saying like

if you want a jrpg sword that cycles through magic attacks

the only way you'd get something like that is maybe you convince the donor of this weapon to make it more interesting

that keybrand idea is not only silly because it doesn't address the issue of keybrand being shit whatsoever (im not even sure this is accurate), but cal devs don't accept item ideas anymore

im not looking at the references because references are stupid

but i think the idea of a magic sword with cycling attacks could be neat

[random pasture]

Fair

[swift wharf]

just buff keybrand

[drowsy plank]

true

[grave zinc]

@lavish condor - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make inactive power cell factories and chargers stand out more in Bio-center Labs]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make the Hallow/Evil Spawn in Predictable Columns]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[frosty trellis]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[north oracle]

[bright crag]

[cobalt pewter]

how

I mean how did they do it

[worldly sparrow]

LETS GO

[glass arch]

lets

fucking

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[golden sonnet]

Big W

[drowsy plank]

presumably the same way vanilla does it in GFB in 1.4.4

also seems like the alternate rod of discord methods got lost in dev voting hell

not exactly suprised tbf

[random talon]

damnit

that was my suggestion!

[drowsy plank]

surely the vote will conclude in a reasonable and timely manner

[royal tapir]

real

[cobalt pewter]

oh yeah that's probably how

[tough hedge]

so is this a channel where i can share an idea i had and wanted to see how people think of it or is it just discussing things in the suggestion posting channel

[worldly sparrow]

both

if you actually wanna post the sugg with the intent of getting it added go to #suggestions-posting

[golden sonnet]

You can discuss ideas before deciding if you want to put them in the channel, or discuss things already there

[worldly sparrow]

^

[tough hedge]

ok cause i was thinking about posting a idea to make the calamity accesory light up the area around the cursor as firstly fire=light, and secondly it would bea neat qol thing, lighting up distant areas along with makeing the cursor that much easier to spot in dark fights

[worldly sparrow]

hmm

[tough hedge]

and abyss lighting too

[worldly sparrow]

honestly i dont really have problems with that

i mean the cursor is emitting fire after all

[golden sonnet]

Yeah, I see no issue with it

[worldly sparrow]

post it

go ahead

just make sure to format it correctly

[small timber]

the problem is how early will it be without making it overpowered or straight useless

obviously if it is preboss you will probably be way too good for exploration, but once you have nightowl + shine potion you don't really need it anymore

[tough hedge]

the... calamity accesory... from scal...

[worldly sparrow]

sir we're adding light to the calamity accesory

[golden sonnet]

Lmao

[small timber]

so it is mostly just a useless effect, well at least it do fit

[worldly sparrow]

the little touches in a game add up

bold the title

for formatting reasons

[small timber]

a touch up post beating 1 of the final boss? and chances are the final boss? (because exo generally is done before scal)

[glass arch]

bolding isn't needed for proper formatting

[worldly sparrow]

wait really?

[small timber]

yeah bold is not necessary

[golden sonnet]

No, it just looks nice

[small timber]

it just look neat

[worldly sparrow]

damn i just saw everyone was bolding it and just assumed thats how it worked

[tough hedge]

how bold work idk

[worldly sparrow]

** on both sides

like this

[tough hedge]

like this

[glass arch]

**like this**

[worldly sparrow]

thats one asterisk on both sides

[tough hedge]

this?

ah thanks

[cobalt pewter]

as long as the title and the content is separated by a line, your sugg shouldn't be technically problematic

[tough hedge]

so it good now

[cobalt pewter]

that's fine

I would suggest a more substantial feedback instead

the title is a little confusing on first glance

put quotes around the acc name

"Calamity" accessory lighting up areas

[worldly sparrow]

because the mod needs to light up

[cobalt pewter]

honestly that acc name is such a moment

https://tenor.com/view/gunna-fire-writing-heat-gif-25524005

[worldly sparrow]

they did the name drop :O

[cobalt pewter]

is this it? our Calamity?

god I wanna die writing that

[worldly sparrow]

i love when yharim is on 1% hp and he says "this truly was a calamity"

[cobalt pewter]

so true

[tough hedge]

welp imma eat, thanks for the help getting my suggestion working

[drowsy plank]

tbqh idk why it doesnt do this already

there's an accessory in story of red cloud that does this in vanity slots but that one looks very silly lmao

[marble moat]

YEAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[jovial spire]

Might take a while to like

actually get work

but

vanilla worldgen momento

[jovial spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/225030931008847874/1049927575373357066/F37E0519-8568-458A-B911-E29C75CAF546.gif

[golden sonnet]

I may be a child, but every time the SCal theme sings "ashes of calamity" I lose my fucking shit

you can't just say the mods name and the summon item in the song

[cobalt pewter]

worse, the theme was made when ashes of calamity was still just a fucking material