suggestions-discussion

[hybrid steeple]

nah

[worldly sparrow]

(modded minecraft reference)

[ivory galleon]

and than maybe change up the evil 1 boss to make a little harder

[hybrid steeple]

evil 2 goes much harder than evil 1

[drowsy plank]

evil2 moving has been brought up a plethora of times

[ivory galleon]

dragonsteel 🤬🤬🤑

[drowsy plank]

it has never worked

[wide river]

...Wouldn't removing Evil-2 be the same issue?

[ivory galleon]

idk man

[wide river]

Minor spelling mistake

[ivory galleon]

what if we MERGE them 🤑🤑

[cerulean lotus]

🤑🤑🤑

[drowsy plank]

what does that even mean

[bright crag]

That's an understatement

[ivory galleon]

book worm

😤

[drowsy plank]

[wide river]

Curious

[bright crag]

I hope that, when new Bestiary drops and Aerialite rework releases, you understand the extent of evil-2's influence

[hybrid steeple]

#suggestions-discussion if talking about evil 2 was banned

[worldly sparrow]

so on the same tier we have:

2 pretty important figures in lore
worm who "eats worlds" but literally cant eat
brain

[wide river]

So true though

[hybrid steeple]

its come up like

three times in the past week

[ivory galleon]

ok let’s just keep evil 2 it’s fine where it is and usually beat first try

for me atleast

[worldly sparrow]

ok but like

i seriously have no idea on how the calamity devs will get a player-sized swordfighter boss to work

(yharim moment)

[ivory galleon]

maybe like uhh asriel dreemurr fight

[cobalt pewter]

expect it to be like a vanilla boss

[ivory galleon]

swings big sword

stars come out

boom

[hybrid steeple]

lots of dashes

[cobalt pewter]

because that's what essentially calamity bosses are

[ivory galleon]

Big stars 🤩

[wide river]

Like Cultist but better

[worldly sparrow]

quite the low bar

[wide river]

If I wanted a low bar I'd say Ravager

[ivory galleon]

ok guys let’s talk about draedon furniture set

[cobalt pewter]

yeah don't put too much hope into Yharim until he's out

[hybrid steeple]

TRUE

[ivory galleon]

wait what does ravager even there for

what does it drop

[drowsy plank]

items

[worldly sparrow]

bloodstone

fleshy geode

[ivory galleon]

ohh bloodstone right

[hybrid steeple]

to be a disgrace to the mod

[ivory galleon]

i farmed the brimstone crags

[drowsy plank]

so true

[ivory galleon]

i didn’t know it dropped bloodstone

[random talon]

bad equips that become good equips at endgame

[drowsy plank]

ravager's weapons are good for it's tier too. at least. pre-rematch.

[hybrid steeple]

its there to be a cool flesh golem thing and then fails at being cool or flesh

but succeeds a lot at being golem

[drowsy plank]

so true!!!!!!!!!

[north oracle]

XD

[ivory galleon]

hmm let’s remove ravanger than move evil 2 their to make them harder and make it drop what they drop (joke if you guys don’t agree with me 🤑

[bright crag]

Evil-2 may not seem like it
But it's the strongest manifestation of those dead Gods
They are the world evil

[worldly sparrow]

btw quick question: which class do yall think is on average the most reliable throught the entire game

[north oracle]

that is an accurate description of ravager

[north oracle]

i'd say ranger tbh

[worldly sparrow]

same

[north oracle]

it's incredibly reliable at every stage

[random talon]

that explains why they're stopped in such a pathetic way

[ivory galleon]

and than it’s one of the easiest bosses in the game

[wide river]

You've already adopted the #suggestions-discussion regular attitude of removing everything

[drowsy plank]

Evil-2 being the manifestation of the those gods feels weird considering the Evils only drop off in Hardmode after you get Ichor/Cursed Flames

[random talon]

i.e. making some big trenches

[drowsy plank]

lmao

[ivory galleon]

let’s remove scal

and exo mechs

and mech bosses

[wide river]

Ok now that's too far

[ivory galleon]

yharim worm

[worldly sparrow]

add la ruga

[random talon]

fuck it, let's remove the whole mod

[hybrid steeple]

weak ass world evils
hive mind is like
drastically easier than eow

[ivory galleon]

and every boss exepct DESRERT SCOURGE 🤑🤑🤑

[bright crag]

(Which is why I think they should be harder and their defeat more dramatic)

[wide river]

We may talk about removing stuff frequently but we have standards

[ivory galleon]

actually delete calamity

i’m tired of this delete the whole mod 🤑

[bright crag]

It does have some footing in lore

[wide river]

Just leave the server
I've solved your issue

[drowsy plank]

I guess the idea is WoF is holding back their full potential or something? That's the only thing i can imagine

[hybrid steeple]

Remove the Calamity Mod
The Calamity Mod feels very unfinished. The final boss has not been added, multiple of its sprites are outdated, it has lots of plans that aren't being implemented at this time, and it is rife with bloat. I believe it would be best for the mod if it was removed.

[ivory galleon]

no

[north oracle]

lmfao

[ivory galleon]

w suggestion

[random talon]

what if we move Ravager down to Pre-Mechs and put the Evil2 Bosses in its place?

[wide river]

Dear god no

[hybrid steeple]

aeriealite

[bright crag]

Yharim would've locked what he could of the evils in WoF, once WoF was created
But too late, the evil had already spread

[ivory galleon]

what if we put scal pre king slime and put desert scourge post exp mechs

[random talon]

I see

[wide river]

People are forgetting about Aerialite when they talk about moving Evil-2

[bright crag]

Ravager will be moved to Post-Providence eventually

[random talon]

damn

[ivory galleon]

idk evil 1 can do that

[wide river]

...Not really

[bright crag]

Nope

Evil-1 certainly can't

[glass arch]

evil1 already gets you hellstone gear

[worldly sparrow]

where every biome becomes irrelevant:
forest: no idea
underground: visit occasionally until post-yharon then never go back
hell: post-wof now that provi and guardians are summonable anywhere
evil biomes: early hardmode
hallow: post-eol
space: idk
ocean: post-duke
sulphurous sea: nobody fights old duke so post-polter acid rain
abyss: fight aew i guess?

[north oracle]

provi and guards are summonable everywhere?

[drowsy plank]

oh ur saying after the next update

[worldly sparrow]

recent change

in the next update

recent

[drowsy plank]

yeah but i mean you also have to consider the biome reworks that are coming too

which we

do not know about at all

[north oracle]

ah
not changed yet

[worldly sparrow]

dragons aerie: post-yharim
distortion: post noxus

there

[bright crag]

Neither do we :)
We would have sat down to discuss them but funny port

[drowsy plank]

yeah...

[glass arch]

abyss: post polter too because polter buffs it and gives it new drops

[bright crag]

Dragon's Aerie won't be post-Yharim, you'll fight Yharim there

[ivory galleon]

guys what are the calamity bosses that are needed in progression

[drowsy plank]

oh boy

[ivory galleon]

are their any i don’t remember

[drowsy plank]

well you see

[wide river]

Let me get the low% routing

[drowsy plank]

low%

[bright crag]

Distortion would be available pre-DoG through CV it seems

[ivory galleon]

i can remember you can skip to moonlord in hardmode

[worldly sparrow]

thats why it becomes irrelevant post-yharim

[ivory galleon]

i think you need to beat only like 2 bosses in this mod

[drowsy plank]

i wonder if that whalefall idea is still at all possible or if that was something taken in the devcident

[errant cradle]

Oh?

[bright crag]

Oh, this is when it becomes irrelevant

[wide river]

Yeah that

[errant cradle]

Does that mean DoG's fight will be moved there or has not much thought gone into it yet

[ivory galleon]

you can skip lunatic cultists with eidolists i thought

[novel belfry]

So uh... what's Noxus currently?

[glass arch]

god this is so compressed i didnt realize thatd happen

[bright crag]

Of an ecosystem sprouting of an otherwise dead location? It still stands

[novel belfry]

I know he started out as super slime god, but now he's super different now

[bright crag]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glass arch]

no eidolists are what you need to skip to cultist

[novel belfry]

i don't even know what he is

[bright crag]

Not much is known in public lore

[errant cradle]

I know of the whole DoG pulling you into Distortion for P2 but hearing this now has me thinking of this instead

[worldly sparrow]

hints in the lore point to the distortion

[ivory galleon]

huh

what’s noxus

[wide river]

Something
Related to the Distortion in some way, I don't think we know much more

[ivory galleon]

is that gonna be a boss

[bright crag]

He's the puppeteer behind DoG, and somehow related to the Distortion

[worldly sparrow]

superboss, actually

[ivory galleon]

coolio

[bright crag]

Noxus will be a superboss eventually

[ivory galleon]

i love super bosses

wait will infernum be updated to calamity’s bosses any more or is it done

[wide river]

Infernum is done

[worldly sparrow]

its done

[ivory galleon]

crap

[worldly sparrow]

no infernum yharim

[ivory galleon]

i needa finish my thorium playthrough fast

so i can play infernum

[worldly sparrow]

bro chill

[errant cradle]

The most you'll get out of an Infernum update now is a hotfix for any big Cal changes

[worldly sparrow]

yharims not coming until 2050

[errant cradle]

Thats bout it

[ivory galleon]

oh ok

[wide river]

^

[ivory galleon]

does catalyst work with infernum

[errant cradle]

Yeah

[worldly sparrow]

yeah but no astrageldon rework

[errant cradle]

^

[glass arch]

yeah but infernum doesnt touch it

[ivory galleon]

isn’t astrageldon hard enough tho

for it to count

[worldly sparrow]

yes.

[ivory galleon]

ok than lol

[wide river]

You also can't fight it post-Moon Lord

[worldly sparrow]

astrageldon is a superboss

[ivory galleon]

wgat

so i need to fight a suberboss pre moonlord

[wide river]

If you beat Moon Lord you can never fight Astrageldon

[ivory galleon]

holy molay

[wide river]

On either the character or the world, I don't remember what causes it

[cerulean lotus]

why does calamity devs never update the future bosses or maybe do a xeroc rework

[undone holly]

really?

[hybrid steeple]

kid named Catalyst Anti-Tier Lock

[undone holly]

good to know in the future

[glass arch]

well, without the addon

[novel belfry]

LOL

i love that meme

kid named Post-ML Astral Infection

no seriously, I want actual Post-ML Astral Infection stuff, that biome rocks too hard to get straight up ignored in post ml aside from Astrum Deus lunar fragment farming

[wide river]

I'm not sure how you'd make it relevant post-Moon Lord

[ivory galleon]

i get rid of astral infection after astrid deus

it gets annoying

[worldly sparrow]

^
deus is about as good as you will get, what is basically a god fallen from grace iirc

[hybrid steeple]

a god

[ivory galleon]

that one trident against a god

tenebrus tides or smth

[wide river]

Tenebreus Tides, yeah
And Astrum Deus isn't a God, only seen as one

[ivory galleon]

where do u find lore

[hybrid steeple]

#lore-discussion

[wide river]

The document pinned there will serve you well

[ivory galleon]

k

[rugged belfry]

Also, if Obs Swordfish is only viable early hardmode, it's hardly worth getting. Who's fishing immediately after entering hardmode??

[random pasture]

Crystal serpent

[drowsy plank]

Crystal Serpent does counter your point, the main issue is Obs Swordfish is

no where as near or even close to being as good as Crystal Serpent

that thing shreds even emode

[tired haven]

I wouldn't say "shred", it's serviceable

[drowsy plank]

fair

[tired haven]

meanwhile obsidian swordfish is worse than no weapon at all because you hurt yourself more than you hurt foes

[drowsy plank]

i just like it a lot

so true

[rugged belfry]

True but lava is more out of the way than hallow

Hallow you have reason to be in: passively getting souls of light which aren't obtained from altars unlike their counterpart

[random talon]

kid named lavaproof fishing bobber recipe

[rugged belfry]

Lava is just a nuisance

[random talon]

hey, would you consider 1.4.4 Night's Edge to be true melee?

[glass arch]

no

[tired haven]

Personally? Nah
Code-wise? Unclear
Is it True Melee compared to Murasama? Yeah

[glass arch]

mura is goofy

however looking at the demo gif of nights edge on the wiki shows its got a separate projectile aside from the one that stays stuck to the blade

https://terraria.wiki.gg/images/d/dc/Night's_Edge_(demo).gif

[wide river]

I think 1.4.4 Night's Edge is projectile melee
The blade itself doesn't do any damage, and relies on projectiles to actually be of use
Like, if the projectile cap was hit (somehow), it'd be crippled, whereas if it were true melee, the blade would still work fine regardless

[glass arch]

if it was just the closer of the 2 swings id consider it true melee, but since it has the extra distance slash thats separate from the first one its not true melee

(also does that gif look wonky to anyone else)

[wide river]

What is happening to the video quality at the end

[glass arch]

i have no idea its not happening to the wiki upload one

[random talon]

the vid just dies at the end

[tired haven]

It's a gif
That just happens

[cobalt pewter]

it's a wiki gif

it's just a feature at that point

[tired haven]

I'm not sure what you talk about there tbh
Blade is visual, yeah, but projectiles aren't a new thing to TM definition (cue all the way back to arkhalis and spears)

[wide river]

Idk just my technical analysis of things
Maybe it's wrong, maybe it's not

[royal tapir]

Also swords are projectiles lulw

[novel belfry]

maybe if you made the second slash only appear when you strike the enemy

[tired haven]

Nuh uh

Swords are in fact the only type of weapons that are not projectile

like, it's literally ignored by projectile cap

[cobalt pewter]

your pee is a projectile

but yes

broadswords are its own use style and doesn't use projectiles at all at base

probably because some of the earliest Terraria weapons and tools are broadswords

[royal tapir]

Terraria

Bottom text

[cerulean lotus]

what u guys think abt that suggestion

[wide river]

I don't even understand what this is asking for
Is it asking for better tile blending? Because if so, it should clarify that better
Regardless, it needs reasoning and a title

[cerulean lotus]

idk which one is supposed to be the changed one

[glass arch]

i think it is

[blissful echo]

before I file a bug report does the Beenade Launcher work for anyone? I can only shoot it upwards all others are "blanks"

[golden sonnet]

Beenade launcher????????

[wide river]

I think it's something from Bombus Apis

[blissful echo]

wrong place?

[golden sonnet]

Yeah, that's not a calamity item, you can see the mod it's from in brackets at the bottom

[blissful echo]

gotcha ty

[ripe owl]

The most comprehensible tMod item description

[silk matrix]

In the next update please make the pitch black attacks on moon lords forced back ground a little bit darker

[small timber]

sounds like a bug instead that I heard someone had encountered before

[silk matrix]

Oh

[small timber]

because Moon Lord's attack are all white in colour with a pitch black background

[silk matrix]

Then I'm sorry for being rude

Thanks for telling me

[small timber]

check the mods you have (or maybe texture pack, I forgot if tmodloader already have it or not), chances are it is mod conflict or texture pack problem'

[silk matrix]

Thanks I'll try it

[stuck inlet]

what name this mod?

[small timber]

there are 3 mods here depend on what you want:

The first light blue/cyan colour one showing boss name and boss kill time is Nycro Nohit Efficiency
The show "You were above minimum nohit length" and orange colour Average DPS is Toasty's Calamity QoL
The final red colour text showing average DPS etc is Calamity Tester Helper Mod (which I am not sure is public)

but yeah this is not the right channel to ask since this channel is for suggestion; #help-advice-read-pins or #calamity-mod-talk probably will get faster response

[rugged belfry]

The purple is Calamity btw

[swift wharf]

boss death messages are not real in vanilla

[random talon]

based and purplepilled

[cobalt heath]

can someone put a lock emoji on my sug? Altix said it's already in the to do list

[ripe owl]

Is it the furniture one?

[cobalt heath]

yep

[undone cedar]

ok

[grave zinc]

@cobalt heath - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add draedon lab styled furniture]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[ripe owl]

[cobalt heath]

danke won't bloat dev voting

[random talon]

crazy

[shut pollen]

@random talon there is a item to completely stop voodoo demon demons from spawning

[random talon]

yea, but

when you don't have it

ONLY voodoo demons spawn

I don't like the "all or nothing" route here

[shut pollen]

the qol of actually getting them is amazing and the fact you can turn it off when it does matter to you i.e you’re building and don’t wish to pay attention is nice

[random talon]

I see your point

should I just get rid of the suggestion?

[glass arch]

no i think its a good idea to tone it down

[random talon]

ok

[shut pollen]

see what other people think

I am one person and you are one person

[random talon]

ok

[cerulean lotus]

voodoo demons are so annoying while building the arena because you kill them and wof spawns and you have to go all the way back down there and theres like 5 voodoo demons

i think lowering spawn rates is a good idea

[blazing kettle]

isnt there afeature in 1.4.4 that reduces voodoo demob spawns?

i think you have to equip a guide voodoo doll to make them go away in 1.4.4

[wide river]

The only 1.4.4 change I see is just making them stackable

[blazing kettle]

really?

[cerulean lotus]

is tmod even 1.4.4

[blazing kettle]

not yet

[wide river]

Not yet

[glass arch]

no

[blazing kettle]

cal's next big update is going ot be the port though right

[wide river]

Yeah

That is the plan

As for what the port will have, I don't think that's confirmed yet

[fervent orbit]

the plan for the last 5 updates

[cobalt heath]

we love relogic keeping the promise of ''This will be the final update''

mod devs love this

[random talon]

"just one more update!"

[blazing kettle]

i assume the port for the most part will only have balancing changes

[cobalt heath]

the ds sprite

[random talon]

and maybe one more boss

and another biome

and more NPCs

and also some more equips

[cobalt heath]

and a full new class for the sake of it

[blazing kettle]

and the resprite(s) yeah

[errant quest]

Not only that but even the doll that you can craft to stop them doesn't seem to always work in multiplayer

So yeah they should be toned down or the doll could just be craftable

My friend has spawned the wall of flesh accidentally at least 3 times whilst exploring the underworld

[cerulean lotus]

most things dont work in multiplayer

[grim tusk]

Maybe some but not many, we will not delay the port for a mega balance-patch

[glass arch]

no spawn blockers work in mp

[errant quest]

Damn rip

[rugged belfry]

Doesn't work for me

Multiplayer issue?

[cerulean lotus]

look at chat

[fervent orbit]

yes

[rugged belfry]

I'm blind

[cerulean lotus]

why is the borderline sis onto voting

not even border line it is very specific

[rugged belfry]

Which one

[cerulean lotus]

newest in voting

[rugged belfry]

Not too specific

Maybe the trade off is

But the concept itself is just expanded on an existing idea

If it was a new concept in itself it would be too specific

[cerulean lotus]

they still laid out functions and concepts for a new item which is against all the suggestion rules

[rugged belfry]

Existing functions

[cerulean lotus]

true

why not just add the tag ability to some existing armors tho

[cold cosmos]

Yeah wait actually

[gaunt tiger]

we have whips yeah

but they're broken atm and not at the top of priority, so we have to be patient

[cerulean lotus]

i see no reason to add new armors when you can just add the feature to already implemented armors while whips are still being balanced

[drowsy plank]

they arent asking for armors

they just want a gun that deals summon damage and tags

[cerulean lotus]

oh i didnt read that lol

[toxic basalt]

welp my destroyer balance suggestion is now a lost cause

great

[drowsy plank]

lol

[toxic basalt]

I'm just tired of getting sniped from a laser that just comes out of nowhere in a random direction

[drowsy plank]

arent we all

yknow considering the fact devs have already come in here and said they dont like the scal idea i wonder if i could just get it locked

[wide river]

"Don't like" and "won't get implemented" aren't necessarily the same thing
Although in this case said devs were lore devs, so it's likely that a lock would happen regardless
Locking it after it's gotten in the top 20% may be... less than desirable. But maybe in this case it'd be fine.

[drowsy plank]

the point is it is just going to get rejected from what ive seen at least anyway

[dense ferry]

I would reject it as fuck

And yeah I'm pretty sure it's not only the Lore Writers who don't like the idea of having Cal just chit chat with you in the middle of the game

[drowsy plank]

something i notice is the devs really tend to avoid anything other than reject, accept, or implemented
do you think there's be enough resistance or enough already existing plans that this could be done?

[wide river]

Then maybe a lock would be preferable, if it's just going to get denied anyway
Give other suggestions the chance, rather than one that's incredibly unlikely to be implemented

[hybrid steeple]

plus it

kind of does conflict with plans probably

[dense ferry]

I don't think it would even have resistance, we would just say "no"

[hybrid steeple]

since those plans are "scal shouldnt show up"

[dense ferry]

Exactly

Cal showing up is fucking ridiculous to me

That's the same as having Malenia walk into a room with you and just say "hi there I am clearly not Malenia what do you think of Radagon of the Golden Order"

[glass arch]

cal showing up wouldnt be a bad move imo as long as she isnt all buddy buddy with you

[wide river]

Why is it the top suggestion of its bunch
Why do people want it this much

[dense ferry]

Because people want Cal foreshadowing

It's just that people don't understand the concept of waiting :)

[wide river]

But that's the wrong way :HDflr:

[glass arch]

scal needs something compared to draedon
this just isnt it

[dense ferry]

Exactly

I wanted SCal to literally be on everyone's mouths

Every NPC talks about her, in some way

[crude geode]

The devplans.png meme isn’t really enough for some people

[glass arch]

draedon is already kinda buddy buddy with you in the fact that he nearly directly talks to you in the logs and schematics

[dense ferry]

You would see the disasters she caused, you would feel a grain of her power still be so powerful, you would hear about every single person talking about how fucking terrifying she is

[glass arch]

and that works... very well for his character actually

[dense ferry]

And this is also why I want Cal to be the singular Boss that spawns naturally

She just shows up

[hybrid steeple]

the air is getting calamitous around you

oh

there goes my nitro i guess

[dense ferry]

Lmao

[glass arch]

[wide river]

Live nitroless reaction

[hybrid steeple]

no more hdflr

[dense ferry]

Byeah, imagine just

[glass arch]

petition to add :HDflr: to calmain

[dense ferry]

Walking there on the forest, and suddenly everything goes silent

[glass arch]

what the fuck clyde got a new pfp

[dense ferry]

And you just see a hooded figure walking to you

[stone bloom]

Rebecca that idea fucks hard

Hell yeah

[north oracle]

that would be fantastic

[crude geode]

This seems kinda. Difficult.

[hybrid steeple]

that would be SICK

[north oracle]

you have the choice to approach her and start fighting or just fucking dip

[dense ferry]

She doesn't say a single word, the fight just starts and you read the name that has been uttered as the most fucking horrifying person you could ever come across in your entire life

[wide river]

That sounds badass what the hell

[hybrid steeple]

im like

[swift wharf]

bloodedge calamitas

[hybrid steeple]

handicapped now

my emote pool is vastly shortened i cannot communicate without my beloved hdflr

[crude geode]

[dense ferry]

Byeah just

FUCK man

I want my LORE ACCURATE CALAMITAS FIGHT!!!!!

[errant bobcat]

What happened here

[swift wharf]

make it less edgy

[errant bobcat]

I’m confused

[dense ferry]

Tho I'm afraid it would be kinda

Ass.

To fight her if you die

[wide river]

Another conversation about how the Scal foreshadowing suggestion was bad

[errant bobcat]

Ah, makes sense

[dense ferry]

But I can think of something, I'm the ideas girl

[crude geode]

This is kinda my fear, even though edge is kinda SCal’s whole thing

[swift wharf]

old scal dialogue

[crude geode]

[dense ferry]

The meaning of the word edgy has been entirely lost

[hybrid steeple]

its not edgy if its well-paced and works ‼️

not everything dark or dramatic is edgy ‼️

its edgy if its old scal dialogue

[dense ferry]

Edgy means "using a serious topic in a narrative but completely butchering it to the point where it's impossible to take it seriously"

[swift wharf]

scal needs a proper arena before anything else

[dense ferry]

I agree on that

Box is weird

[errant bobcat]

Maybe have her shoot a laser at the altar of the accursed and absorb the energy of the ashes of calamity then laugh and summon her arena using them

[swift wharf]

anyways when the point of view is subjective

[glass arch]

something something that one subworld idea

[crude geode]

Altar is extremely rad for how awful the arena is

[dense ferry]

No

We are not

[hybrid steeple]

scal box arena-

[dense ferry]

Making Subworlds

[hybrid steeple]

I DONT HASVE DESOLAGE

[dense ferry]

For arenas

[hybrid steeple]

[glass arch]

octo having a panic attack when she realizes she ran out of nitro

[hybrid steeple]

anyways yeah scal box arena is

definitely a thing

[wide river]

Make a modmail requesting that this grievous error be rectified

[dense ferry]

We have it dead set in stone that we are going to have only two Subworlds

[hybrid steeple]

love me some Arena Blocks

[dense ferry]

Distortion and Aerie

[crude geode]

We’ve already proven we can make arenas naturally in the world without shoving them into subworlds

[dense ferry]

No more

[errant bobcat]

I just realized that was octo too…

[glass arch]

[drowsy plank]

oh wait profaned biome is going to be in the overworld? huh...

[dense ferry]

Yeah

It can fit in somewhere

[wide river]

Just about as generic of a name as "Light Block" from Minecraft

[errant bobcat]

I have a simple solution to this problem: make SCal not exist anymore:

[swift wharf]

also where the hell did you get that definition

[glass arch]

profaned biome can go like

[dense ferry]

My ass

[glass arch]

anywhere that isnt the surface

[swift wharf]

figured

[dense ferry]

But it's still basically what it means

When something is fucked up and you can't take it seriously

Just look at Tokyo Ghoul

[errant bobcat]

Honestly it wouldn’t be bad to put it around the hell lab

[swift wharf]

not really

it's when something tries too hard to appear cool

[errant bobcat]

Or is far too intentionally emo

[crude geode]

Definitions are for governments

[hybrid steeple]

kind of wish she could have no arena but so much of her design is based on having one

[crude geode]

The entire fight design is yes

[swift wharf]

1.2 scal 1.2 scal

[dense ferry]

Yeah, you can't make Cal not having an arena, but I like it because to me it feels like a whole

[swift wharf]

realrealrealreal

[dense ferry]

"You are not running away."

[errant bobcat]

Actually, just put invisible blocks and background change

[glass arch]

"You cannot escape."

[swift wharf]

invisible blocks

god

[crude geode]

[glass arch]

echo blocks

[dense ferry]

Invisible blocks are lame as fuck 😭

[swift wharf]

please be sarcasm

[glass arch]

‼️

[hybrid steeple]

shader arena that bounces you back or smth

[swift wharf]

they're not lame they're the worst option

[errant bobcat]

That way you can style it however you want without having to put actual blocks and figure out the code to build it

[swift wharf]

infernum has tileless arenas

just do that

[hybrid steeple]

yeah

[dense ferry]

How so?

[swift wharf]

and when you get close, they appear

magic

[dense ferry]

Oh I see

Yeah that could work

[errant bobcat]

Invisible blocks with background change or tileless arenas yea

[dense ferry]

We will see

[swift wharf]

no clue about how it works, but empress, ML, brimmy etc has that

CV too iirc

[glass arch]

i can check

[hybrid steeple]

square arena made of Arena Blocks that only breaks when you get close to them is definitely one of the things old calamity added

[glass arch]

i mean, infernum is public now so you can just kinda steal the code

[swift wharf]

does provi still have the box

[dense ferry]

Anyways yeah FIX ALL PROBLEMS SLAM SLAM SLAM

That will be fixed

[errant bobcat]

Better to ask and then do it’s

[wide river]

We call it borrowing in the world of coding

[swift wharf]

sisyphean task

you can never fix calamity

[hybrid steeple]

complete the calamity mod suggestion

[dense ferry]

We appreciate ideas but we are currently stuck.

[crude geode]

Provi box

[hybrid steeple]

when the porting is

[glass arch]

when the tmod is 1.4.4

[dense ferry]

1.4.4 Port is being absolutely obnoxious yeah

[swift wharf]

but for real though, does the provi box still exist

[errant bobcat]

Provi DOT for leaving the range really does need an indicator tho

[swift wharf]

not that

[dense ferry]

But I assure you guys that once we get past this hell, things should go on much, much quicker

[swift wharf]

the box that appears when you kill her

[wide river]

Anyway tl;dr someone should lock the Scal foreshadowing suggestion or something

[hybrid steeple]

oh right that was what this was about

[errant bobcat]

Ye, y’all take your time on port, make sure bugs are fixed

[grave zinc]

@last spoke - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Have Supreme Witch, Calamitas encounters throughout your play-through]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[dense ferry]

Locked

[crude geode]

Btw what’s the plan with the sentinels? Xpc mentioned them possibly getting less connected with dog but that seems a bit wack, and I somewhere remember discussions coming around about their areas and stuff

[dense ferry]

First of all, they won't be Sentinels anymore

[wide river]

I recall a mention of the Rune of Kos dying, but other than that I assume not much
They're staying in the same places, from what I remember

[hybrid steeple]

if only we could rename tracks

[dense ferry]

They are the Distortion Trio now, a better name will come up eventually™️

[crude geode]

That name alone is better (they’re kinda shit sentinels)

[dense ferry]

They are all beings linked to the Distortion, in one way or another

And I can assure you one thing

[wide river]

"Sentinels" implies they stay in the same place

[dense ferry]

Weaver is now based.

[golden sonnet]

nice save, the tm was almost missing

[hybrid steeple]

theyre sentinels because they were uhhh sent an l

[swift wharf]

sentenela

[dense ferry]

It took me two fucking hours but I came up with SOMETHING for Weaver

Honestly I don't blame a single person in the entire world for not knowing what to do with that motherfucker

[crude geode]

He certainly is something

[dense ferry]

Legit DoG but small, what do you do with it?

I thankfully did

[wide river]

I honestly might try my hand at making a collective name for them
I don't expect any of them to be good, seeing as I don't know all the lore, but I may as well give it a shot

[royal tapir]

DoG tries to raise a child and gets raided by the CPS

[dense ferry]

So true

[crude geode]

Signus seems like a blank slate at least?

[dense ferry]

Signus FUCKS

[glass arch]

i must share this with weavercord

[royal tapir]

The implications are uncanny

[dense ferry]

Do it

My Storm Weaver Arc is coming to a close

I hated Weaver, I despised it

But I took care of it, I nurtured it

And now look at my boy

[hybrid steeple]

character growth via character growth

[dense ferry]

Well you can't it's not public yet

But you will see soon

[glass arch]

idk looks pretty public to me

[dense ferry]

[wide river]

Ture

[crude geode]

Are each of the sentinels still connected to their current biomes

[dense ferry]

Weaver and Void yeah, don't think Signus is much connected to Hell anymore

[crude geode]

Signus was always the weirdest biome wise

[stone bloom]

Its funny how the sentinels are just always gonna be called that even if they arent that anymore

[crude geode]

What about dragonfolly?

[swift wharf]

will weaver have proper projectiles

instead of using ice queen's

[crude geode]

Will any of the bosses in cal have proper projectiles/sound bytes

[swift wharf]

SO TRUE

[crude geode]

Granted

I realize the music mod takes up a lot more space than something like a texture pack for cal/terraria

But I’m not asking for 5 minutes of music when ravager shoots his nukes

[swift wharf]

@ moonburn

[novel belfry]

...WHAT 'CORD?

[wide river]

Weavercord
A subserver of a subserver

As one may expect from the name

It's related to Storm Weaver

[novel belfry]

What... does that mean?

What does a subserver mean? does mean somethin like #calamity-mod-talk

[wide river]

A subserver is like, if you had a server dedicated to food, a subserver of that would be a server dedicated to apples

[night jolt]

Kid named Voodoo Demon Voodoo doll or whatever that item is called:

[errant quest]

Doesn't work in multiplayer unfortunately

And kinda annoying having to have an extra thing in your inventory at all times when in hardmode just to not accidentally spawn it

[bitter monolith]

MP is uh

bad

[last spoke]

Oh, not what I expected (In a good way). Glad to receive an update regarding it.

[toxic basalt]

has anyone made a suggestion over removing Calclone's Hellblast projectile acceleration during her BHs yet?

[small timber]

it used to accelerate much faster and is deliberately nerfed, and I think it is already nerfed sufficiently

[toxic basalt]

still causes unfair hits when they accelerate out of nowhere

made worse in BH2 when fireblasts are thrown into the mix

fireblasts force you to move around a lot more, which is then punished by the hellblasts randomly speeding up

[small timber]

BH1 is definitely fine; you are supposed to dodge in a small area from your initial position when hellblast starts; that way they literally do not accelerate

the problem is more that in BH2 the fact that fireblast exist is very poorly thought out; fireblast should NOT fire like how it currently is: literally on top of the player

this force the player to move therefore cause hellblast to accelerate

so if someone is to suggest to change something about BH2 I will rather it be to adjust fireblast (which is the real problem) than hellblast acceleration (which really is not a problem)

because the acceleration will be needed because unlike scal the player can run god it (and then still can even with acceleration)

if anything I think they should like place a "beacon" when BH starts that mark an area that you are supposed to dodge the projectiles in (basically scal arena except less strict and during BH only); and the projectiles only massively accelerates outside the arena

[toxic basalt]

I had that idea in my head, a temporary box during the BH phases

but I had an idea

wait no

you also put it there

[gaunt tiger]

wait isn't the voodoo doll prevention item in calamity?

what mod is that from then

[toxic basalt]

it is

[gaunt tiger]

#suggestions-voting message
tf is this for then

[toxic basalt]

shrug cluelessness or they just forgot the item exists

[tired haven]

or it doesn't work in MP (it does in fact not) or it's a solution to a manmade problem

[cobalt pewter]

yeah it's basically the "make a problem, sell the solution" except the solution isn't exactly sold

[toxic basalt]

@small timber #suggestions-posting message how's this?

[small timber]

seems fine? didnt see issue with it

[cobalt pewter]

of course it's mp

this game is running on sticks and stones

[small timber]

time for tmodloader 1.4.5 port to be a multiplayer engine enhancement patch where you have to rewrite every single code in the mod to be multiplayer friendly so that we can have another 6 months port

[cobalt pewter]

6 months? that's an optimistic estimate

realistically it'd be at least 2 years

[tired haven]

Don't forget the part where singleplayer is moved on mp logic as a result and next 3 years are patching that alone

[small timber]

and then tmodloader patch 1.5 rework the entire vanilla base line code to make ILEdit more friendly and easy to carry out that coincidentally also require you to use Python instead

[random talon]

terraria 1.4.5 will be made using entirely Scratch code

[small timber]

"small performance enhancement patch"
"Tmodloader now is based on Unreal Engine 4"

[cerulean lotus]

:

[tired haven]

Put terraria on unity and watch it combust in flames trying to render spawn area

[cerulean lotus]

hi crabar i love ur video

[small timber]

"we know this change really fuck up a lot of modders as it changes the base game system, how terraria is coded and also all internal working, but please understand our in depth reasoning on why we did this:

just imagine, put yourself in our shoes: what if Overhaul really wanted to make the fire graphics more real"

[cobalt pewter]

nah, straight up UE5 with hyper realistic 3D

make Terrarian's muscles move exactly as humans do when they're swinging Sword of the Universe

[cerulean lotus]

removed enemies to improve performance

[hollow ridge]

Is this another sugg based around him nohitting it then having an issue with it?

[small timber]

no calclone bh2 is legit just kind of shit

fireblast literally dropping on your face is extremely unintuitive to dodge as it forces you to move = hellblast accelerate

[random talon]

hellblast accelerating is bs

maybe instead of the projectiles accelerating, Cal could make 2 brimflame pillars to prevent you from just running off

[wide river]

Gee that sounds familiar, I wonder what boss already does that

[cerulean lotus]

just make scal a chase you around the world boss again

[hybrid steeple]

potion of nonbinary

[cobalt heath]

a legit good idea

[hybrid steeple]

how would that work is the question

[cosmic karma]

i feel like a lot of this is like hardcoded

[cobalt pewter]

this almost reads like a meme

[small timber]

you should ask Terraria to add that function instead of Calamity

[hybrid steeple]

is it the same hurtsound and body type as what you chose in character creation?

[cerulean lotus]

resprite the character

[hybrid steeple]

ideally hurtsound and body type wouldnt be linked at all

[cobalt heath]

Legit I have no idea, I just thought about it and thought that would be cool

so, suggestion

[cobalt pewter]

1. This is certainly not a calamity thing to do
2. This would over complicate armors
3. Just use male body and a custom hit sound ig?

[hybrid steeple]

but i think thats probably how it should work since. idk how easy adding a third hurtsound would be and it seems shrimple enough to edit any dialogue talking to the player with pronouns to just be they

[cobalt pewter]

also "it'd be cool" is not enough reasoning

[cobalt heath]

I did reason it pretty well

[hybrid steeple]

just use the selected body type

[small timber]

^

[drowsy plank]

gener

[small timber]

tell Terraria (vanilla) devs to add that, not Calamity

[cerulean lotus]

how many liberals does it take to change a log by bolb

[cobalt pewter]

just use races mod and be a slime, that thing's gender neutral

[drowsy plank]

i think red was already approached about this, and it might end up being a thing in 1.4.5? it might be worth it to ask him again tho

[cobalt pewter]

but honestly yeah this has nothing to do with Calamity at all

[cerulean lotus]

none! there to beusy... there gender!!!

[cobalt heath]

Oh didn't know

[eternal escarp]

this is a nice thought but idk if this isnt something cal needs to do, or if theres even a good way to do so

[cobalt pewter]

always good to ask for confirmation yea

[cobalt heath]

if it's coming to terraria already then there is no reason to sug it

[drowsy plank]

tbf i
only saw it on a chippy twitter summary but you should still try to contact him to see if im right

[cobalt heath]

how tho

[cobalt pewter]

I'm just waiting for my Dead Cells content damnit

[drowsy plank]

twittr

[cobalt pewter]

where is it

[eternal escarp]

twit er

[cobalt heath]

I don't use twitter

[cobalt pewter]

twitter, dm red

[eternal escarp]

too good i guess

[drowsy plank]

this is understandable but it shouldnt be hard to throw together a burner account to do so

[cobalt heath]

Ill just get my gfs account to do it tomorrow

[drowsy plank]

lmfao

[fervent orbit]

oh hey cog can u unwarn me

[drowsy plank]

lemme check logs

[cobalt heath]

Cus I won't sign a deal with the devil

[fervent orbit]

it was on the 24th

[drowsy plank]

get this man a true

[swift wharf]

it would be SO BASED

but why is this in

[cobalt heath]

or I could just pull up terraria dc and ask a dev

[cobalt pewter]

me when I am the devil:

(I only use Twitter for lewds)

[swift wharf]

calamity mod suggestions

[swift wharf]

hits you with rock

[drowsy plank]

next time ask via modmail or smthn but ur good now

[swift wharf]

like i'm non binary and it does suck but why is this calamity's issue??

[royal tapir]

All the 0 people who were wondering this:

[cobalt pewter]

The More You Know™

[royal tapir]

[cobalt pewter]

they were already nudged towards asking Red if something like the sugg is coming to 1.4.5

I'd say just flag it for now since it's potentially not calamity related

[distant gyro]

im like solidly sure that vanilla is doing the thing yeah

[cobalt heath]

yeah Ill get my gfs twitter acc tomorrow

ask red

[swift wharf]

nuh uh'd

[cobalt pewter]

would be funny if that addition breaks armor as it's a new body type

and we'll see 1.4.5 tmod port in 2075 at least

[cobalt heath]

cus idk if devs like being dmd in dc, or read them even

[distant gyro]

become calamity and conglomerate every armor sheet for all genders

[fervent orbit]

just tag him

[swift wharf]

GOD

[cobalt pewter]

no more booba armor

[swift wharf]

i mean the only armor difference that armor has is for the chestplate

[cobalt pewter]

(honestly being real armors would probably use male)

most of them are gender neutral enough

[small timber]

I think the best approach is to turn Terrarian into just a yoyo

[swift wharf]

simply don't add "female" variants

[cobalt pewter]

it just so happens that the female ones are boobafied

[small timber]

no more worries about gender and armor sprite etc

[swift wharf]

if theres no variant, its already gender neutral

[cobalt pewter]

become a real life item

god that'd be a funny April Fools

you play as a yoyo, just visually

[swift wharf]

@ thom

[small timber]

you no longer get fall damage immunity; instead when you take fall damage you just get stunned and roll on the ground until you stop similar to a tombstone

[cobalt pewter]

holy shit that sounds banger actually

like something wacky that fits ftw or zenith seeds

[small timber]

and be careful in multiplayer with other player playing golf because they can accidentally hit you if you are close by

[cobalt pewter]

golf class

@multibanana

[umbral gazelle]

❗ jumpsacrer

[blazing kettle]

the gender fluid

[ripe owl]

Gender fluid? You mean c-

[random talon]

just pretend you're an genderless amoeba

[ripe owl]

Asexual =/= gender neutral

[random talon]

oops

lemme change it

[ripe owl]

[random talon]

does genderless work?

I am big dumb

[ripe owl]

If you're neutral, I guess you technically don't identify yourself as any gender so you don't have one

Idk I am not a professional at this

[blazing kettle]

hello, gender expert here, amoeba dont have gender

[ripe owl]

That's uh

I think that kinda was the point

[fossil finch]

Based sugg

Vanilla should be adding the non binary option by tomorrow else The Accident will occur

[drowsy plank]

so true

[tired haven]

male and female reworked into body type A and body type B respectively

[cobalt heath]

I hope relogic will make it vanilla

cus it's kinda pain not having the option

[wide river]

I want it to happen too, but I don't know how it'd happen

[tired haven]

legitimate question though: what would be the difference between male character and NB character in terms of appearance?

[cobalt heath]

this is a fair question, so I would want it executed the way you said

[wide river]

I assume it'd be a slightly modified version of the male body, just to make it not so masculine

[cobalt heath]

just remove the gender part and make them body types

[random talon]

body type bs my beloathed

[tired haven]

terrarian and masculinity are mutually exclusive terms imo

bro built like an office clerk and sounds like a wimp

[random talon]

lmao

help my brother is suggesting to give the Onyx Excavator Key an overheating/charging mechanic

he really hates the Excavator

meanwhile he has Fargo's Mutant installed

[wide river]

Didn't you bring this exact thing up like a week ago

[swift wharf]

disable hitsound texture pack

[random talon]

my brother brings it up every goddamn time he sees the excavator

"waa waa! how dare Calamity have QOL features!"

[tired haven]

A rare sight for sure

[random talon]

but then

kid named Fargo's Mutant Mod: Enabled

[fervent orbit]

saw some guy complaining about ds dropping 2% drop fishing accessories in cmt

[swift wharf]

that was m-

[fervent orbit]

no.

no it wasnt

[swift wharf]

e

[random talon]

I once thought of a system where the Angler gives you knockoff Defender Medals to get his stuff

removes a lot of RNG

[small timber]

I think what your brother really want to suggest is that onyx exacavator key can't be used until you hold a crystayl crusher in your inventory

[swift wharf]

the drops are kinda too op imo but i think they got nerfed

[random talon]

lmao

he also thought that it could multiply your pickaxe speed by 3 or something

[swift wharf]

yeah they got nerfed nvm

[random talon]

thought of a meme about my brother's tirade against the drill, but memes aren't allowed unless they're relevant

and the meme isn't relevant to silence so...

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[golden tulip]

bruh

[blazing kettle]

just add the habd drills from DRG

its exactly what they want

1. cool looking
2. overheat system
3. not fun

[tired haven]

they are definitely fun though, albeit it might be due to contrast with pickaxes being molasses

[random talon]

DRG?

[tired haven]

Deep Rock Galactic

[random talon]

ah

[blazing kettle]

its fun in drg but in terraria it would be quite annoying (in concept)

[golden sonnet]

exodium is not renewable in any other way

[cosmic karma]

i never knew of the transformers existence until yesterdsy

[wide river]

Hmm, yeah. The suggestion doesn't even acknowledge Exodium at all, which is probably problematic

Also, saying that the Transformer is useless isn't quite true. It gives immunity to Electrified, which the only other way to gain immunity to it is by wearing a post-Moon Lord Ranger accessory: Dynamo Stem Cells

[glass arch]

transformer is a niche accessory

[fervent orbit]

its also quite strong when compared to other "effect on getting hit" and is also not part of the absorber

[serene tendon]

You can craft it...

[fervent orbit]

no

[wide river]

That got removed

[serene tendon]

And anyway, you need exodium for like 3 recipes in the entire game, and you get thousands, so it doesn't even need to be renewable

[wide river]

It's used in the Cosmic Anvil

[fervent orbit]

it is certainly not used for "3"

[wide river]

One of the most important crafting stations in the whole game

[fervent orbit]

its used for soul artifacts, several weapons and the cosmic anvil

[serene tendon]

I'm exaggerating, but not by much

[fervent orbit]

an exaggeration that is over triple the amount

[dense ferry]

Shockstorm Shuttle has actual Lore now btw

[wide river]

If we remove the renewability, then the Cosmic Anvil might just become unobtainable in worlds where the Exodium Planetoids don't generate
And while that's kinda a bug, it's still a common scenario

[dense ferry]

^

Or someone can be stupid and trash all of it

There are multiple scenarios were you could not have access to it and making the Ore renewable is important

[serene tendon]

People won't just mine every single exodium planetoid and trash all of it, if only because they're too lazy

[dense ferry]

Accidents happen

[serene tendon]

If it's purely accidental, chances are you'll just un-trash it

[fervent orbit]

who tf trashes one item at a time? people usually mass trash their inventory

[dense ferry]

If you still want Shockstorm Shuttle to be removed, provide solutions for what to do with the Transformer and how to make Exodium Clusters renewable as well

[wide river]

Apparently Exodium is used in 5 different donor items and a donor armor set
Not exactly relevant, but I thought it was neat

[serene tendon]

Already provided a Transformer solution, I guess I can suggest a renewable exodium alternative

[dense ferry]

We aren't removing the Transformer

It has its uses

[glass arch]

transformer has its uses ye

[dense ferry]

Niche, but they exist

[wide river]

Removing something because it fills a niche use isn't a good solution
In my eyes, the better solution is to make the use case less niche, so more people use it

[glass arch]

one of them isnt even that niche its just not getting fucked in the ass by electrified

[dense ferry]

Also if you can, please reword some parts of your suggestion to make it less aggressive and condescending

[serene tendon]

If you, being a dev and all, got offended by it, I'm sorry. I meant simply to show my annoyance towards the enemy

[wide river]

I'd think it's more just because the aggressive tone of the suggestion can come off as a rant

And you don't want your suggestion to look like a rant, trust me

[dense ferry]

^

[serene tendon]

I'll do my best

[dense ferry]

Exactly that, I didn't get offended or anything, but doing that retroactively makes your suggestion less likely to be accepted

[swift wharf]

transformer doesnt suck

debuffs do

the accs that increase effectiveness of debuffs are great

the problem is that there are no debuffs to buff

[fervent orbit]

shame theres only one electricity debuff

[swift wharf]

precisely

[fervent orbit]

id like a post martian electricity one

[serene tendon]

That's never happened to me, am I just lucky?

Or is it rare?

[swift wharf]

however I do agree about the enemy

why is a martian saucer just there

[fervent orbit]

probably a more advanced scout that has battle functions like the martian probe

[swift wharf]

strange creature

a relic of old calamity

[wide river]

It's common enough that people report it frequently in help-advice, but not common enough that it happens every playthrough
It just depends on how cluttered space is by the time you defeat Moon Lord

[swift wharf]

literally just exists to make exodium renewable

actual slime

[fervent orbit]

just switch probe and shockstorm positions

why is the attack one the one you meet first

[swift wharf]

just make exodium drop from meteor heads

ez

and add a recipe for martian plating or smth idfk

[fervent orbit]

meteorite exists

[swift wharf]

weird ahh enemy

i mean exodium on its own is a strange material

luminite 2

[serene tendon]

lets just remove it

[swift wharf]

so true

[fervent orbit]

just make it craftable with galactic singularities and lumi- oh wait

thats just the old recipe

lol

exodium is just weird

its mainly used as a middle man for ruinous souks and lumenyl i just realised

but it comes from outer space

[serene tendon]

How's this?

[grim tusk]

Transmuting is future content

[serene tendon]

?

I just meant a crafting recipe

[grim tusk]

And why the fuck would we put aerialite as a way to get exodium

[grim tusk]

Transmuting is shimmer’s thing

And it would also be specific on the recipe since you are asking for a specific material so thats another ❗

[serene tendon]

Hah, forgot that that system had that name, I should reword that

@grim tusk What about now?

[grim tusk]

Suggestion may live

[serene tendon]

Thank you

[drowsy plank]

shockstorm shuttle made more sense when it spawned earlier in progression as a hint towards martians eventually existing

• it let you get martian plating earlier for cool building shit and for crafting the martian distress beacon

idk why tf we moved away from that

[wide river]

I can see a grand total of 1 item that would give a progression skip (If Shockstorm Shuttles were to drop Martian Conduit Plating at any time)
It'd allow Shock Grenades as soon as you get access to Nanites, but like
I've never seen a single person use the things

[drowsy plank]

nanites are

also post-Golem

this changes literally nothing lmfao

[swift wharf]

just make a martian enemy spawn

[wide river]

No...?
Always available from the Cyborg, which is a post-Plantera NPC
I see nothing on the Vanilla Changes page that says anything about changing when Nanites are sold

[drowsy plank]

i keep forgetting cyborg is post-Plant

my brain is insistent this dude is post-Golem idfk why

[wide river]

Maybe because a lot of mods just shove Martian stuff in his shop for some reason

[drowsy plank]

lol prolly

maybe it's also because two jungles bosses right next to each other is lame as fuck and im constantly forgetting what goes where

[swift wharf]

just make martians themselves drop exodium clusters

tbh

[wide river]

I'm not sure why Shockstorm Shuttles drop it in the first place
They're both from space
And that is the only connection

Or maybe not

After all, bestiary rewrite and such

[swift wharf]

yes the lore will fix the issue

[crude geode]

Lore will fix every issue

[swift wharf]

it's not a problem if the lore says so

[dense ferry]

Idk why Shockstorm Shuttle drops Exodium

I don't even know WHAT IS Exodium

[swift wharf]

exodium clusters

the post ml planetoid ore

[dense ferry]

I mean in the Lore

[drowsy plank]

space rock

[dense ferry]

I have my ideas but we will see

[drowsy plank]

fr tho is there like

any reason we couldnt just KILL exodium

just replace it with luminite they're practically the same thing

[golden sonnet]

^ agreed

[drowsy plank]

and if you really need something to surround the planetoids with to make them look good you could just use fragment blocks or titanstone or something

or even just makes something new idk

[golden sonnet]

arena blocks

[drowsy plank]

[undone holly]

yeah, exodium is just luminite 2

[drowsy plank]

idk i just find it weird that there's this post-ML material that is. primarily used at. post polter tier and seems to have no justification for it's existence

[undone holly]

yeah, the main thing I can think of that it’s used for that’s near the. Tier where it’s spawned, is the Normality Relocator

[drowsy plank]

it's also used in the soul artifacts but most of them are locked by materials that are further in progression anyway

also wtf is going on with the plates

weird ass block

[golden sonnet]

plates look very cool in builds and I love using their background walls painted, little confusing in general though

[drowsy plank]

oh no of course i just
why do they exist? like. in the lore?? what does "it resonantes with otherworldly energy" even MEAN

[golden sonnet]

love them or hate them, they do be resonatin

[drowsy plank]

sooooooo true

[golden sonnet]

some item descriptions feel like Yugioh normal monster flavor text

just completely isolated bits of text that bring up so many questions

[drowsy plank]

so true

[ivory galleon]

hello

a lot of these suggestions are just remove this

remove that

i’ve seen a lot of those

but stormshock shuttles are annoying

[random talon]

dumdum forgot to put in reasoning

oop he's cooking

[drowsy plank]

yes welcome to suggestion posting

also looking at deleted messages and i have a feeling this is gonna be a bad one

[random talon]

yea

[random talon]

you know how I've been ranting about my brother's anti-Excavator tirade

well

now you don't have to hear it from me anymore

[drowsy plank]

[random talon]

hear it from him

[drowsy plank]

lovely

[random talon]

he's waiting for the slow mode to finish

[ashen warren]

WHY SLOW MODE WHY

[ivory galleon]

let’s remove exo mechs, scal, yharon, dog, all melee items, all summon weapons, all mobs and the mod

[random talon]

lmao

[ashen warren]

-_-

[oblique geyser]

would a rogue placeable station be a SIS

[ripe owl]

If you don't specify what it does - no

[random talon]

HEADS UP

[ripe owl]

But I think it has been suggested often enough for devs to have at least something in plans

[random talon]

MY BROTHER'S MESSAGE IS HERE!!!

[ripe owl]

That just ain't right!

[ashen warren]

finally

its done

[north oracle]

hasn't there already been a sugg about this recently

[ashen warren]

wait wut

wdym

[drowsy plank]

it would be a waste of time bc it already passed

[oblique geyser]

ah

[drowsy plank]

#suggestions-discussion message

[ashen warren]

yea

i kinda liked the 'scale with mining speed' thing

[random talon]

you think Boom Shurikens are balanced shut up

[ashen warren]

theres a difference

you have to mass buy those

they're EXPENSIVE

[random talon]

1 silver each, was it?

[ashen warren]

idk

[swift wharf]

lame sugg

[north oracle]

[drowsy plank]

it really doesnt

i havent actually seen any good reason it does

that thing sucks for a multitude of reasons when trying to use it in any practical scenario

in fact most of the time i avoid it because it's so unruly and bad lmfao

[north oracle]

it has such a tendency to just suddenly be melting large amounts of something you don't want it to

[lavish condor]

It is quite disproportionately fast for the stage you obtain it

[dense ferry]

Ok, now answer me

What are you going to use this line for?

Like...?