suggestions-discussion

[jagged zealot]

Disagree in a sense of execution, but you do you then.

This is more of what I was talking about

[ornate slate]

just put desert medallion in desert chests like how sussy eye is in underground chests sometimes

[drowsy plank]

that

is already in the game

[ornate slate]

ok

then continue doing that

[drowsy plank]

that's like the first thing i mentioned about it which is why i think DS is fine

[ornate slate]

sorry i dont speak cringe

😎

[hybrid steeple]

i mean calamity shouldnt really go for the same thing as vanilla
but yeah i just mean like. desert scourge should be mentioned somewhere beyond the lore item

[drowsy plank]

like the only other thing i could imagine being added for DS is like. idk maybe his teeth appear as background elements in the ug desert stuck into random things or something
maybe amadias talks about him like idk

[jagged zealot]

It still sucks imo that sunken and abyss don't have full on bosses-bosses. I would prefer clam be reworked into a boss.

It feels like sunken is a one and done thing in pre-hm to early

[ornate slate]

amidias is after desert scourge right

[drowsy plank]

it's desert scourge he really isnt all that important in the lore

yeah but it would give him more presence if that's what people want

[hybrid steeple]

mhm
the lore items kind of fulfill that purpose but i hope theres something we can find giving a little bit more detail about ilmerian wildlife in the sunken sea which foreshadows crabulon and fleshes out ds a tad more

[drowsy plank]

im sure it'll come with the biome rework, and the lore items are already just a temporary thing anyway

[hybrid steeple]

like a tablet or something

[hybrid steeple]

yep

[drowsy plank]

plus we have the draedon log

[ornate slate]

guide quote

[hybrid steeple]

thats just the kind of thing i was going for

[ornate slate]

desert scourge

[jagged zealot]

They are? I thought that was a permant staple?

[drowsy plank]

no lore will have better integration Eventually™️

[bright crag]

The content (the lore they communicate) is permanent
The execution may be improved eventually™️

[drowsy plank]

^

[dense ferry]

This is way too fucking obvious

You shouldn't be able to see the Boss before you actually encounter it, otherwise it completely breaks the impact of the Boss actually showing up

[dense ferry]

Abyss having a Boss is the end of the world

I will not accept an Abyss Boss, ever

AEW is already something I dislike

[glass arch]

not even a kraken

🥺

[dense ferry]

It doesn't matter

Abyss DOES NOT need a Boss

Sunken Sea doesn't either imo, it should be entirely about exploration

[glass arch]

yeah as much as it would be cool it doesnt need it

[dense ferry]

Not everything needs to culminate in a Boss fight

[glass arch]

not everything needs to be focused solely on combat

[frosty trellis]

A big problem with mp is not the content itself but rather the fact that cal's mp health scaling is dogshit

To the point where on my dedicated server even on death mode we have to crank up the HP configs to 900% to not melt the shit out of everything

Also better multiplayer exists to prevent respawn timer

[dense locust]

don't you also have like 10 people on that server

[golden sonnet]

HP scaling is adjusted next update

[vapid elm]

thats also a problem

[drowsy plank]

yeah and the fights are still pretty easy

[frosty trellis]

Yes
That's
Why we have it on 900% HP

Yeah but part of that is because tank builds are "balanced"

[drowsy plank]

lol fair

but the number of times someone solo'd a boss is also very funny

[frosty trellis]

I did pre-moonlord 900% death mode Yharon as a joke with a tank build and it worked

[glass arch]

yeah like you and that one hour long AS fight

[drowsy plank]

dont remind me

[frosty trellis]

Yeah.

[glass arch]

twice

[frosty trellis]

People just progression skip soloing shit

[golden sonnet]

#changelogs message

[frosty trellis]

Even with 900% HP

[golden sonnet]

#49

[drowsy plank]

huh

[frosty trellis]

Oh nice

[glass arch]

thank god for that

[frosty trellis]

Now the pt can be less easy bc shit has EVEN MORE HP

[glass arch]

it is unironically easier to have more people even with the hp scaling

[blazing kettle]

you need team coornation and a balanced team at that

[frosty trellis]

I just facetank literally everything and never die

That is not a joke

We are at pillars rn and I did Yharon as a joke in 2 attempts

[drowsy plank]

anyway the game isn't designed around multiplayer or abusing respawns, if you want, you can just use better multiplayer, but yeah it's not cal's place and idk what cal would do anyway @vapid elm

still trying to decide if this is worth flagging rn

[dense locust]

its always been easier, not sure why multiplayer would ever be harder than doing it solo

[novel belfry]

I feel like the Abyss is just ASKING for a boss
yes, sulphur sea has like 2 bosses and an entire event that actually upgrades throughout the game

[swift wharf]

rare rebecca W

[glass arch]

and not as in we last longer, as in we kill the bosses faster

[novel belfry]

and we don't talk about AEW

[swift wharf]

aew is not real

it is a dungeon guardian worm

in my head

[dense locust]

aew is fine stop the hate

[vapid elm]

ik its not around multiplayer. also im starting to realize that all bosses heath was just dropping

we killed yharon with like 2 minutes

[swift wharf]

aew is MID

[dense locust]

mid is not bad

they're different words for a reason

[swift wharf]

lunatic cultist worm

🥱

literally the same projectiles

unique ai

[dense locust]

damn guess brimstone elemental is a calclone ripoff

[drowsy plank]

AEW is like if LC was good
this is literally just because the hurtbox actually moves instead of just standing in place 8 different times
like the funniest part of AEW being a worm is it doesnt even have segments

[swift wharf]

what do you mean it does not have segments

[drowsy plank]

like yeah it DOES have them but like

[dense locust]

its segments are fake

[drowsy plank]

it doesnt use them they might as well not be there

[swift wharf]

only the head takes damage

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[dense locust]

lies made up by the government

[swift wharf]

do they deal contact damage

[drowsy plank]

no

[dense locust]

no

[swift wharf]

HUH

[drowsy plank]

LOL

[swift wharf]

strange entity

[drowsy plank]

really is

[swift wharf]

but like at least make the projectiles new

it is literally the same projectile

and they work the same way

[drowsy plank]

AEW is just fuckin uhhhhh Future Cultist

whatever it was called

Ancient Doomsayer or whatever

[swift wharf]

damn the lore reverted to that

[dense locust]

bro was calling aew mid yet they didn't even know that its body didn't hurt you
sounds like someone was having an opinion before actually fighting the thing

[swift wharf]

not relevant

the boss is literally lc but worm

at least infernum aew has an unique theme

[drowsy plank]

no i didnt mean lorewise, i meant AEW is basically just the old LC rematch fight back when future bosses still existed

[swift wharf]

oh lmao

[drowsy plank]

because it is just "What if LC was Hard?"

[swift wharf]

worm boss

automatically worse

I jest

but like aew is

disappointing

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[glass arch]

its a boss masquerading as a worm boss

[drowsy plank]

yknow im looking at the sugg don'ts and like
some of these are really funny and im not even sure if they're planned anymore

[swift wharf]

you could remove aew and nothing of value would be lost

just snap the player's neck if they teleport in the abyss

[glass arch]

halibut cannon:

[swift wharf]

dedicated items........

something something sunk cost fallacy

[drowsy plank]

the frequently suggs section of the sugg doc is so funny

• the implication anyone would EVER want yoyo bag in elemental gauntlet or that that would even make sense
• im not even sure if cal still wants to give the multiclass vanilla sets helmets for summoner and rogue
• the fact thorium crossover content is even ON this document when the only thing left connecting the two is that thorium's kelp herbs drop from herb bags

[swift wharf]

ultimate accessories 👿

[dense ferry]

AEW Lore is a funny one

[swift wharf]

im gonna turn aew into awas

what is even the lore for it

wait

@dense ferry is aew still related to cultists yes or no

[dense ferry]

Uuuuuuuuuh don't think I can say

[hybrid steeple]

i mean i dont think eidolists are getting killed

iirc cei said they werent

[dense ferry]

They are the offshots of Dragons

[dense ferry]

And yeah they aren't being killed

But their connections are much less... Direct

[hybrid steeple]

yeah so then theres a link between them still

[swift wharf]

i c

[novel belfry]

i mean, we could just kill aew and add silva boss or something

[swift wharf]

jane plantera abyss boss

[novel belfry]

not necessarily silva herself, but her remains are noted to be still active

[swift wharf]

anything but aew 😇

[novel belfry]

Roots of Silva, or something better

[dense ferry]

I don't think I can continue talking.

[royal tapir]

You were never talking

[swift wharf]

jane plantera confirmed

[royal tapir]

You were typing

[novel belfry]

heck, if we were REALLY unoriginal we could just call it Yggdrasil

[dense ferry]

God no

[drowsy plank]

[novel belfry]

/s

im joking of course, but point is, silva boss would probably still be better than whatever aew is

[swift wharf]

you get brambled for trying to use rod in the abyss

(is that a word

[hollow shell]

I am assuming Better Multiplayer was already mentioned

[drowsy plank]

@hollow shell

[hollow shell]

yeah thank you

[hollow shell]

and yeah day by day I wonder if I should start some dev GC and clean up the Don'ts doc
Determine what stuff the devs actually give a shit about or feel in the present day is still an issue

(also that reply looks really funny)

[north oracle]

that looks so fucking weird lmfao

[wide river]

How on earth did that happen

Reminds me of something that happened in #lore-discussion a few days back

[north oracle]

bullet points and discord being a wonderful app free of bugs

[hollow shell]

I didn't even know you could do bullet points in Discord

[hybrid steeple]

[odd geyser]

what

[wide river]

This

And subsequently these two
Anyway Discord sucks back to suggestions

[odd geyser]

Oh lmao

I once compressed an image to make 1 pixel small

[novel belfry]

probably.

[hollow shell]

Oh
Dang, what does that remind me of

Some other site or UI has a kind of hanging-over profile design like that I think

(I might just be thinking of... Discord, lmao)

[wide river]

Perhaps

[hollow shell]

Gotta work out the logistics of doin that

[hybrid steeple]

discord hates one pixel images apparently

[glass arch]

discord hates images

[wide river]

So true

[golden sonnet]

Discord hates (insert useful/good thing here)

[hybrid steeple]

tags

[wide river]

Next Discord update: "We decided to remove the chat feature as it can be potentially offensive to some of our users. We hope this will foster a kinder environment in the future."

[fervent orbit]

discord hates discord

[golden sonnet]

True

[hybrid steeple]

discord hates having a userbase

[frosty trellis]

Discord hates literally it's most appealing feature so much they are trying to remove it (discriminators)

[golden sonnet]

Tbh I think that's fair, they are known to cause confusion and difficulty

[wide river]

Alas, the new system will possibly make it more confusing
Lots of people may have to suddenly rename themselves if their name was taken

[north oracle]

Wait what will I rename myself to now

thank you discord

[wide river]

I will probably just go by another one of my aliases

[golden sonnet]

Smh my head, just be an old user like me so you get to rename yourself first

[wide river]

I do kinda hope that they roll the feature out to the oldest users first
That way it's less chaotic as everyone scrambles for their names
But at the same time, specifically releasing features to people that have old accounts first seems iffy

[north oracle]

i wasn't old enough to have an account when you made yours lmfao, i'm young

[golden sonnet]

That is how they are doing it, it said so in the article

They are rolling out to oldest first

[wide river]

That's stupid

[north oracle]

that's... an interesting decision

[wide river]

The clear solution is just to call yourself username#your current discriminator just to spite Discord

[golden sonnet]

Lmao

[north oracle]

hell yeah

except I can make my discriminator 666 now :3

[golden sonnet]

Oh wait, the only non number/letter characters you can use is _ and .

So you can't do the hashtag

They are one step ahead

[north oracle]

noooooo

they're onto us

[blazing kettle]

why are they doing this in the first place

did they even give a reason beyond "this is cool"?

[hybrid steeple]

they gave a bunch of reasons

all of which were bullshit

[fervent orbit]

im gonna try to take "noob" if someone hasnt alr

[hybrid steeple]

the only piece of evidence they actually gave for any of their claims was one reddit post asking what a discriminator was called

[golden sonnet]

They brought up statistics of 40% people not knowing their discrimator, and 50% of all friend requests failing to meet the correct people

[hybrid steeple]

40% of people, data which they gathered by uuuuuhhh trust me bro

[fervent orbit]

they think forcing usernames is the best idea? damn they must be stupid

cant wait to be called "xN0Ob__xHer3"

[golden sonnet]

You still have a display name that can be whatever you want

[hybrid steeple]

like. did anyone recieve a survey about this? was there even a poll on the reddit?

[golden sonnet]

It's just your identifier that's being changed, so like instead of Raesh#0231, I could just be Raesh

[hybrid steeple]

surely theres no reason this could be bad besides people being butthurt about losing their names

[north oracle]

yeah, that's kinda dumb

[fervent orbit]

or someone else takes raesh and ur forced with ra3esh or rae5h

[hybrid steeple]

surely no other platform has problems with the unique username system

[golden sonnet]

Please don't say this

[north oracle]

except there's a 99% chance most people will miss out on their preferred identifier

[hybrid steeple]

surely discriminators werent an objectively better system that multiple other platforms were already implementing

[north oracle]

no fucking way discord would have literally gone backwards

[golden sonnet]

To be fair, discord allowing people to have the same tag and name with the only difference being caps is kinda dumb

[north oracle]

that is true

[hybrid steeple]

literally all of the reasons they gave for this change were bullshit

[fervent orbit]

wait its case sensitive?

[hybrid steeple]

they provided no source for their statistics
"50% of friend requests don't go through" as if everyone accepts every friend request they get that was targeted at them

[wide river]

The annoying part is that they also have completely ignored any and all requests to remove the feature, despite either a large majority or a vocal minority speaking out against it

[golden sonnet]

Or being a fancy text copied from a website

[north oracle]

i definitely ignore friend requests from randoms on this server lol

[fervent orbit]

tbf thats a bit harder to stop than case sensitive

[hybrid steeple]

love cutting out "special characters" (anything thats not the roman alphabet)

very english-centric of you discord

[golden sonnet]

I mean, the new system stops it

[fervent orbit]

wait do u even get to use a space in ur handle

[wide river]

Oh
Now that you say that
Will the new system prevent people from using, for example, Russian Script in their names?
Because if so that essentially makes Discord only usable for English speaking countries

[hybrid steeple]

yes.

[golden sonnet]

It says alphanumeric and period and underscore, so maybe not?

[fervent orbit]

...

[hybrid steeple]

anything that isnt roman alphanumeric characters cannot be used

[north oracle]

thank you so much discord

ffs

[fervent orbit]

theyre going more backwards than i thought

[fervent orbit]

thats exactly wat it means

[hybrid steeple]

say goodbye to your markets in places that use cyrillic, japanese, chinese, etc

[north oracle]

good job discord

[glass arch]

only useable for places that use the latin alphabet byeah it would definitely cut down on a lot of users

[wide river]

Oh this is more stupid than I had initially assumed it
Everyone's going to have to have English names regardless of country, which'll make finding people a lot harder

[hybrid steeple]

but it appeases the shareholders ‼️

[glass arch]

i can almost guarantee lots of people will put numbers behind their names anyways

[fervent orbit]

i bet the shareholders dont even know what a discord is

[glass arch]

hell i had to put a number behind my steam username because someone had the same username

[golden sonnet]

They will be forced to

[glass arch]

it doesnt fix the issue it just makes it worse

[north oracle]

i can guarantee that i'll be forced to do that

[wide river]

The shareholders can go spark themselves
If a change essentially kills the usability of a platform, then it's not a good change

[golden sonnet]

We should probably move this conversation

[hybrid steeple]

plus individual usernames make stalking and harrassment much easier

[north oracle]

my name will absolutely be taken by an older account

[fervent orbit]

i wonder if i can get "noob"

[fervent orbit]

joined 2020? damn yea

def taken

[hybrid steeple]

and in my experience that stuff is worse on discord than most platforms

[fervent orbit]

so many people joined in the 2018-20 years

its not even funny

[fervent orbit]

account selling

[north oracle]

I wasn't even old enough (didn't stop me from having an account)

[hybrid steeple]

yep.

cant wait for someone to get swatted over a username ‼️

[glass arch]

same but i didnt break tos because i wasnt in any servers

[north oracle]

I made one in 2018, then made a new one a while after I hit 13 to actually have one that i didn't break ToS on lmfao

[hybrid steeple]

many of their reasonings in the blog post rely on the assumption that people regularly exchange discord usernames in a place where they have no access to technology

which. doesnt happen

[north oracle]

oh i joined servers because I didn't know what tos was lol, I just lied about my age when I signed up

[glass arch]

why would you exchange discord usernames in a place where you cant even friend/dm the person right away

[fervent orbit]

being data-less

[hybrid steeple]

idk but the discord team thinks thats a reasonable enough explanation for this change that they made two of their "major issue" bullet points about it

[north oracle]

good job discord, i'm really impressed

[fervent orbit]

also that statistic on people not knowing their tag is so bs because its only 4 numbers, when people are able to remember their whole ass phone number somehow

[hybrid steeple]

that ones the one that HAS to be bullshit

[wide river]

Discord when they use faulty statistics to make a change that will upset a large majority of their userbase (this will help)

[hybrid steeple]

how did they collect this data? i didnt get a survey? im sure as hell you didnt.

[north oracle]

why would they actually check with their users

[glass arch]

i dont remember my phone number
but yeah its really fucking easy to find your tag

[hybrid steeple]

TRUE

[north oracle]

they've made an arbitrary decision

and they're sticking with it

[hybrid steeple]

anyways cancel your nitro dont give out nitro trials, etc etc

[glass arch]

all i have to do is click or tap on my avatar and boom theres my tag, easy access

anyways back to risking rain

[north oracle]

go risk some rain jacob

[golden sonnet]

Make discord easier to navigate
Remove the reasons to have to navigate

[hybrid steeple]

discord should remove discord i think

that way there will be no friend requests to not go through

[wide river]

That's their current plan by the looks of things

[north oracle]

so true

[wide river]

Next update will be removing the friend request feature
After that they will make anything not in the Latin script unable to be sent

[north oracle]

after that, they're going to restrict you to the 26 lowercase letters + space

[errant bobcat]

And after that, you can only type all of those in Morse code

[jagged zealot]

Hard disagree. But to each their own.

[jagged zealot]

Also I feel this is being a bit overdramatical.

[north oracle]

tbh it's been shown how cool it can be to see the boss being visible before it's fought by infernum's sentinel things

obviously it doesn't work for every boss

[jagged zealot]

I know that

And I am NOT saying every boss needs it

But some I feel could have build up.

[dense ferry]

I heavily dislike Infernum's Distortion Trio "foreshadowing"

Because it's not foreshadowing

It's just putting carrot on a stick, dangling it on your face and saying "Oooh you want to fight this Boss don't you?"

[north oracle]

weaver's jumpscare is one of the most effective bits

signus's makes it look too much like he's actually going to fight you

and void's would be perfect if it was more clear that he's not going to fight you yet

[dense ferry]

That's not how it should be done, you should spread hints, make changes, make the player wonder "what is behind all this?", "what started this all?", not just shove the Boss in your face without having it fight you

Void is the one I hate the most

It's just there

Like, you get to the bottom and the thing simply is there waiting for you, there isn't a buildup you just look at it and think "well, I will be fighting this later"

[north oracle]

I dislike signus's, it's just placed there with him wandering around hell or in the temple, but instead of actually fighting you when you walk into the temple, he just kinda
leaves

[hybrid steeple]

i love voids tbh

[dense ferry]

It's too much

[hybrid steeple]

but yeah signus' is

[dense ferry]

I like Aquatic Scourge because it's an animal

Of course it's going to be living, and it doesn't have to fight you

[north oracle]

weaver flying out of the sky and eating everything is actually really awesome, it might not make much sense but it only lasts a few seconds and then it's gone

and it's actually a jumpscare

[jagged zealot]

Star light river seems to disagree with you.

[novel belfry]

that doesn't sound that bad

[dense ferry]

But Void literally just sits there, imagine you entered the Black Egg Temple in Hollow Knight, went all the way down, saw the Hollow Knight, and then you just see the guy there, it stares at you and then you just leave because you can't do anything

[hybrid steeple]

true

[dense ferry]

Granted, Void doesn't pack the same weight as the titular Boss of a game

But it is still a Boss

And a really important one

[north oracle]

void's would be fine if it wasn't just literally sitting there in the exact same way as it is when you fight it
it could certainly be placed somewhere in the dungeon, but it's just nowhere near as effective when it doesn't even change

[hybrid steeple]

i like voids because it really would just be sitting there
but yeah hinting at bosses is generally better

[jagged zealot]

I thought we were the hollow knight? Or at least the true vessel with no emotions? Because using that for the sealed vessel (I assume you mean him) doesn't make full sense considering he has emotions.

[dense ferry]

Void doesn't need foreshadowing at all imo

[dense ferry]

The Knight isn't hollow

[glass arch]

void could use something (a rework into Not That)

[north oracle]

true

void just feels very unclear in why it's in the dungeon at all to me

[dense ferry]

It's literally stated The Knight has a will in Voidheart

Tho yeah I do agree Void needs at least something else

I just have no idea what

[jagged zealot]

I was certain we were?

[glass arch]

the Hollow Knight isnt actually hollow
unless you do true ending (or a similar ending) the Knight you play is

[north oracle]

i feel like what all 3 really need is to not be associated with their biomes
the only one that makes any sense atm is weaver afaik

[crude geode]

Yep

[dense ferry]

The Knight isn't hollow

[hybrid steeple]

void:

[dense ferry]

Again, it's literally stated it has a will

[glass arch]

by true ending here i mean Dream No More

[jagged zealot]

I was saw it as to be the hollow knight, you need to be hollow of emotions

Nothing about will.

[hybrid steeple]

No mind to think.
No will to break.
No voice to cry suffering.

[jagged zealot]

Because if that is the case, then the seal vessel as a weak will, but still a will

[glass arch]

yeah to be truly hollow you need to be literally nothing

[jagged zealot]

Which is proven to not be for the vessel via dream nail.

[crude geode]

Lore discussions about random games in my sugg discussion? More likely than you think…

[hybrid steeple]

anyways yeah

bosses just Showing Up is generally not good

[jagged zealot]

Eh

[hybrid steeple]

infernum void is fine

[jagged zealot]

Not bad

[crude geode]

Is storm weaver still connected to dog as like. one of his kin? Or did the lore change

[jagged zealot]

Either

Depends on the boss and how it is executed

[dense ferry]

The Boss appears and you can either run or fight it

Don't just make it there

[jagged zealot]

Again, starlight river disagrees with you.

[hybrid steeple]

ok i really want to say something but there are people here who are so i cant

[hybrid steeple]

cool

[dense ferry]

And I disagree with Starlight River

Subjectiveness

[north oracle]

that's really cool
not entirely clear why that matters

[hybrid steeple]

this is just show dont tell again actually

except in this case the showing is the telling

[jagged zealot]

You can say the same about re's comment.

[hybrid steeple]

you want to hint people towards it instead of shoving it in their faces usually

[hybrid steeple]

no you literally cant?

[north oracle]

rebecca doesn't think it's a good idea, so you brought up an entirely different game

[hybrid steeple]

youre just bringing up an unrelated mod to gotcha rebecca about this

[dense ferry]

The one thing I'm striving the hardest for with the Lore I'm writing is exactly saying "there is something behind this all" and making the player want to seek out this thing

[jagged zealot]

Yes, you literally can?

[tired haven]

brb gonna code an unrelated mod each time I want to prove somebody wrong about game design

[crude geode]

Woah this entire convo in a nutshell????

[jagged zealot]

No, I am bringing up a mod that shows the concept can work

[north oracle]

(also, it's not great)
it's far better to have an actual references to the bosses than just dropping them right in front of you instantly

[north oracle]

precisely

[crude geode]

People can have. different opinions on game design choices?????

[north oracle]

the issue is that terraria doesn't exactly lead itself to foreshadowing

[hybrid steeple]

it does

[dense ferry]

The most important thing I want to do with the Bosses is without a doubt make the player think "I want to fight this thing"

[hybrid steeple]

you just have to work at it

[dense ferry]

If the player wants to fight a Boss because they learned about it, then I'm doing the thing right

[north oracle]

it allows it to happen, but it's not the sort of game that makes it easy in any way

which just makes it even better when there's some effective foreshadowing that actually makes you want to fight a boss

[hybrid steeple]

elden ring did this pretty well i think

[dense ferry]

IT DID

MALENIA

[hybrid steeple]

i remember the malenia foreshadow-

yeah

🐌

[dense ferry]

[jagged zealot]

It had nothing to do with objective game design. I disagreed with them and gave an example of one I believe does it right.

[dense ferry]

I wanted to do something like Malenia with Cal

[hybrid steeple]

i was going to bring up caelid in relation to azafure before

glad to know we're sharing a braincell on this

[dense ferry]

Just showing the shit he did, making everyone talk about her

[dense ferry]

Cei probably is as well

[hybrid steeple]

the trinity

[dense ferry]

🙏

Byeah, that's my instance on all this

[jagged zealot]

Well, at least I know some people's mod boogiemen now.

[tired haven]

You can bring up overhaul instead. Way more effective against me

[jagged zealot]

?

How is that a scare?

[tired haven]

take a wild guess

[jagged zealot]

All it does is allow you to roll and have seasons, right?

[tired haven]

Definitely not

[north oracle]

(and hopelessly breaks any mod that tries to be creative with it's weapons)

[jagged zealot]

?

[tired haven]

wdym you don't like your triple triple subsuming vortex

[north oracle]

[tired haven]

It changes a bunch of weapon usestyles to its own merit, which in turn hopelessly conflicts with anything modded that uses them

[jagged zealot]

Could you give me an example? Haven't really messed around with that mod

[north oracle]

.

[tired haven]

Magic weapons can be charged for a triple shot

[north oracle]

also most melee weapons with custom swing animations

[tired haven]

throwing is all over the place and I don't even recall myself at this point, although I do think it was "hold to throw further"

[jagged zealot]

Oh

[tired haven]

bows that require pulling the string and releasing

[jagged zealot]

I mean, the thrower one doesn't sound that bad

[jagged zealot]

So, realism?

[tired haven]

Kinda

[north oracle]

mostly totally breaking anything that tries to do it's own thing

[tired haven]

Certainly more realism focused than an average terraria mod I'd say

[jagged zealot]

Idk, I would like something that adds some realism to SOME of the weapons

Like as its own mod

*mode

It would at least take a bit more skill with some weapons.

[drowsy plank]

i mean i suppose that is what overhaul is

just

dont use it with other mods

which i suppose

is also something we say a lot anyway

xd

[tired haven]

this time around is at least 70% more serious than usual

overhaul with other mods is "at your own risk" territory

[dense ferry]

I would like a line of bows in Calamity where you pull the string tbh

But like, a singular one

[jagged zealot]

Idk, man. Most combat for me isn't engaging anymore

[tired haven]

(I wonder if it still crashes on worldgen when enabled with cal)

[jagged zealot]

The bows are rapit fire

Swords feel more like mage & range without draw backs

[bright crag]

Honestly it'd be cool if Galeforce rework had that
I assume you know the functionality, and how it'd synergize with a string pull

[jagged zealot]

And summoner feels a bit lazy ignoring whips

[drowsy plank]

maybe you should try uses some of the ones cal has actually reworked

[novel belfry]

Or better, Lunarian Bow

[dense ferry]

I have some plans to make Melee

Actually Melee

Stip has an idea

[bright crag]

?

[novel belfry]

honestly, current Lunarian Bow is not really interesting whatsoever

[dense ferry]

(The Item I talked to you)

[bright crag]

Oh, I see

[jagged zealot]

Was a general Statement about terraria overall. Not aimed at any mod specifically.

[novel belfry]

it just has a funky projectile that... slides on surfaces?

[golden sonnet]

ORB

[bright crag]

Yeah
Bird did suggest a rework recently in dev, just wasn't discussed super much

[drowsy plank]

fair, just weird to discuss it here when i really think cal does a good job actually fixing those things lol

[bright crag]

We aren't too fast with reworks, especially now

[novel belfry]

and definitely rework the upgrades too

[bright crag]

Yeah, definitely

[dense ferry]

Always found weird how Melee was all "swing a sword aimlessly and see what happens" when fighting with a sword irl is incredibly difficult

[hybrid steeple]

porting

[drowsy plank]

lunarian bow line would be so fucking cool if it wasn't so fucking bad
like visually i think with the most recent resprite the line is really coming into it's own it just need to stop being. whatever it is now

[dense ferry]

So I thought of some ways to fix that

[bright crag]

I mentioned Galeforce because it has new established functionality that was agreed upon

[dense ferry]

Won't be easy when all I have is a singular item tho

[jagged zealot]

I am interested in making a add-on that makes all bows actual bows, and makes true melee fully true melee for bosses, and make other weapons have trade offs so it isn't just a reskin of each other in different classes.

[bright crag]

Not only that, but the two people that (afaik) used to handle weapons most left so

[drowsy plank]

what if swords had these sort of three click combos and you had a sort of stamina bar and they also had a special ability on right click-

[dense ferry]

THE LEGEND OF ZELDA TEARS OF THE KINGDOM

[north oracle]

damn, that's a great idea

[jagged zealot]

Too much

[crude geode]

AoTC says what

[tired haven]

For some reason I thought of dead cells first

[jagged zealot]

I don't want melee to be overly complicated

[bright crag]

Add Island Mace to Calamity

[dense ferry]

Speaking of The Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom I will play the game now bye

[hybrid steeple]

yes

good

[bright crag]

Or a Shadowspec armor called "Plot Armor"

[drowsy plank]

i was referencing starbound because while their melee weapons are more melee starbound melee combat also suckings fucking ass because there's no way to actually close the line with your shitass mobility

[hybrid steeple]

i thought it was a soulsborne reference

[jagged zealot]

I have ideas for that, but I want to save it for an possible add-on

[bright crag]

Calamity tool that adds TotK mechanics

[hybrid steeple]

blocks

[tired haven]

fuse

[blazing kettle]

well now i habe lost my interwst in getting starbound

[drowsy plank]

starbound is incredibly mid
it's good for building ig because i think the combat is very Not Good and the tutorial is so long and drags on and there are missable items in it you can never get again

fun stuff

[bright crag]

You know, I'm quite interested in seeing reworked Galeforce, ###### ## ######## and ###### ####

[drowsy plank]

spoilers

[bright crag]

Reading the designs is one thing... actually using them is another
I hope they're as cool as they sound pun intended

[novel belfry]

You made me double take for a second

thought i was on roblox for a second

[hybrid steeple]

shiter of scrunglo and bingus blade

[bright crag]

Did the Trinity leak the names wtf

[drowsy plank]

[hybrid steeple]

bingus blade real

[jagged zealot]

I wish vanilla had summon weapons more hands on, with the best homming, while mage had the second best homing and distance, being a middle ground between summon and range, with a better chance of inflicting the longest lasting debuffs, range to stay mostly the same with a few caviotes, and melee to be only true melee weapons (as in no boomerangs);

[bright crag]

(I actually mentioned the new mage and rogue weapons respectively)

I am definitely not exploding in my wait

[hybrid steeple]

stip when aerialite

[bright crag]

The most excited person about Aerialite rework is the person that wrote it 🥹

[drowsy plank]

i like melee boomerangs 💥

[bright crag]

I do hope we can make weapons with cool takes on those basic class premises

[drowsy plank]

the funniest part is melee boomerangs are some of the best at actually following melee design principles because their range is usually only the screen unlike swords that usually have near unlimited range

so you actually need to stay close to use them which is

so fucking funny to me

[bright crag]

When the thrown weapon has less range than a handheld one

[drowsy plank]

god

[bright crag]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-25013028

[novel belfry]

we don't need whips, we just need more summon tag weapons that use completely different styles (like the wulfrum armor set bonus weapon)

[tired haven]

There is also a part where you deal significantly more damage up close than at range
Literally more melee-like than like 60% of melee weapons

[jagged zealot]

Well, I was helping someone make a add-on that would change most weapons to be like that, but alright.

[bright crag]

How about... both?

[crude geode]

Literally

[bright crag]

That's cool

[jagged zealot]

I wish they were ranged.

[drowsy plank]

i didnt know this
god that is so funny

[novel belfry]

i just wanna know, how's the progress on the tag damage

[drowsy plank]

also oops ping lol

[jagged zealot]

I mean, if the cal team is already doing this, might as well scrap it

[crude geode]

What tag damage

[bright crag]

Not on the same level as you

Definitely :p

[drowsy plank]

terraria when it cant decide what damage type weapons should be so it just says everything is every damage type (this is actually based they just dont go far enough with it )

[tired haven]

well, to be 100% clear, it's because you get to re-throw the boomerang faster. it doesn't actually make you hit harder

[hybrid steeple]

remove classes from the game
everything is melee now

[crude geode]

Literally

[novel belfry]

tag! you're it

[jagged zealot]

Uh-oh, be glad this wasn't last year. I heard saying the word "whip" would summon a boss fight in this server

[crude geode]

[novel belfry]

[drowsy plank]

oh okay im talking about things like the paladin hammers which compared to their hardmode and post-ML counterparts... yeah

[crude geode]

It still can wdym

[bright crag]

Not too good
We're still making summons consistent

By "we" I mean that Memes is carrying the summoner consistency wagon hard

[tired haven]

Ah, I see

[drowsy plank]

yeah but it's only a miniboss now because shyguymask isn't here anymore /s

[jagged zealot]

Besides, we wouldn't want something to conflict with cal weapons.

[fervent orbit]

wat is sugg disc talking about now

[bright crag]

Chances are, we'll have quite different takes
And as I said, it'll probably be treated as a gimmick, one-off weapon on our side
Because I don't think there's a desire to majorly change classes to that

Just something cool to consider and experiment with while we rework weapons to be cooler

[jagged zealot]

I thought that boss fight was already done and the members/players killed them with dev help?

[bright crag]

For example, two weapon designs for Aerialite are just brand-new
One only exists in one other weapon

[jagged zealot]

Wait, so what is aerialite going to be class focused on?

[bright crag]

It's refreshing to have brand-new or otherwise unseen stuff, even if it's just the visual design

[jagged zealot]

Also

This weapon mage or meleex or?

[drowsy plank]

well the armor is mage and ranged only but there will still be weapons for all classes

[bright crag]

Ranged/Mage armors with separate helmets

1 Melee weapon (Wind Blade)
2 Ranged weapons (reworked Galeforce + new weapon)
2 Mage weapons (both new)
1 Summoner whip
2 Rogue weapons (reworked Turbulance + new weapon)

[jagged zealot]

So what will happen with gel armor?

[bright crag]

The brand-new ones I mentioned are the mage and rogue I mentioned (as spoiler) earlier
The "only one other weapon is similar" weapon is Mage

[bright crag]

Will be Melee/Summoner/Rogue

[jagged zealot]

Is this "special gimmick existing in another weapon" weapon a mage or range one? If so, what other current in game weapon has it?

[bright crag]

Mage

And wouldn't you like to know :p

[jagged zealot]

Yes, that's why I asked

And discord is acting up again

[bright crag]

It's not the one I revealed before, somewhere

But well, I can't tell you which current weapon because that'd spoil the functionality

[fervent orbit]

not the tessen?

[bright crag]

Yeah, not the Tessen
The Tessen is unique

[jagged zealot]

I would share what was planned for that add on, but as from my speculation, you don't do my pms anymore after last time.

[fervent orbit]

ok time to look at every mage weapon

[bright crag]

Wdym?

[novel belfry]

Tessen?

[wide river]

A fan-type weapon that Stip teased a while back

[fervent orbit]

one of the mage weapons is a tessen

[novel belfry]

oh, its those fan things

[fervent orbit]

more accurately its called ####### Tessen

we dont know wat its first part is called

[glass arch]

man i really wanted it to be Stormbringer Tessen but that aint it

[hybrid steeple]

tempest tessen

[fervent orbit]

pretty sure we alr said that

[glass arch]

too many letters

[fervent orbit]

and stip said no

[bright crag]

Yeah

I mean
You probably have better luck with the other names

[glass arch]

Torrent Tessen

what if its literally just Thunder Tessen

[drowsy plank]

abcdefg tessen

[bright crag]

GALEFORCE
GILDED ########
######## TESSEN
MELODY OF PARADISE
######### ####
TURBULANCE
DRAGON FANG```

[bright crag]

Nope

I'm quite tempted to encode a message....

[glass arch]

Skyward Tessen

[wide river]

I assume that's the list of the Aerialite weapons
And some names blanks filled in with what we know

[hybrid steeple]

swyward

[bright crag]

Yes

[glass arch]

shut

[bright crag]

Close but no

[golden sonnet]

Uhhhhhh, Seas shurikens

[hybrid steeple]

do it

calamity arg..... 2

[glass arch]

Skywalk Tessen

[golden sonnet]

Damn, can't count

[bright crag]

Right idea, wrong answer

It might be hiding in plain sight

Or in plain game

You could say

[fervent orbit]

skygame tessen

[wide river]

I think I know the answer

Too bad I'm not telling anyone here because I like secrets

[hybrid steeple]

skyline tessen

[fervent orbit]

i was gonna say skydance but thats one too many

[glass arch]

Skyways tessen

[golden sonnet]

Skywalker tessen

Star war

[drowsy plank]

doesnt wind blade upgrade into storm ruler or whatever
just start looking at weapon lines and seeing what could possibly be part of the name

[fervent orbit]

too many raesh

[bright crag]

Nope, that's for the wings

Names aren't repeated within the set iirc

[glass arch]

well its gotta be somewhat related to Skyward because stip said i was close

[fervent orbit]

🤨

[bright crag]

Except armor, both are Skyplume + class descriptor

Skyplume Sentinel
and
Skyplume Sorcerer

[jagged zealot]

I thought you stopped reading my pms? You never responded anymore when I posted about the things in certain things.

[bright crag]

Oh, I see now
I'm very sorry, I hadn't seen the messages

[glass arch]

Skydive Tessen

[jagged zealot]

So like a few modded classes I know from a while back, and one I have been dying to see in action?

[glass arch]

might as well give that a shot

[wide river]

Maybe?

[fervent orbit]

skydive tessen?

oh shit jacob qlr said that

[glass arch]

[bright crag]

How are you all missing the clue I gave quite clearly :p

[bright crag]

[fervent orbit]

wait i think ik

[glass arch]

Skyfood Tessen

[wide river]

I literally think I know the answer
I shall only say it if people want to hear a guess

[glass arch]

(get it because game is made into food)

[hybrid steeple]

i looked in-game

[drowsy plank]

skibadebaboobada tessen

[hybrid steeple]

the only sky- thing with enough letters is skyline

[bright crag]

The word is used ingame

And not necessarily by Cal

[wide river]

This has solidified my answer

[fervent orbit]

YUUUUPPPP

i got it

[glass arch]

i think i do too

[north oracle]

what are you doing lmao

[fervent orbit]

lmao fluffy joining in

fluffy try to guess it lol

[north oracle]

i have no clue what's happening tbh

[wide river]

Playing the guessing game with a specific weapon

[bright crag]

^

[fervent orbit]

also stip u mentioned that the other mage weapon takes inspiration of another unique mechaniced mage weapon correct?

[glass arch]

i really wanna say what i think it is but graaaaah

[hybrid steeple]

then say it???

[glass arch]

Skyware Tessen

[wide river]

Right, I'll contribute to this, finally

Skyloft Tessen

[fervent orbit]

loft???

[bright crag]

Yes

[drowsy plank]

they should add a skyware fork and spoon bc they're skyware like silverware

[hybrid steeple]

not by cal doesnt mean not in terraria

[fervent orbit]

wild guess.
face melter

[north oracle]

sorry lmao, what weapon is this meant to be

i missed something

[glass arch]

a new mage weapon

[fervent orbit]

new aerialite mage

[wide river]

A place in Skyward Sword
Since Stip mentioned that Skyward was close, I had assumed that it was from Skyward Sword

[north oracle]

aaah

[bright crag]

The "Skyware" name is subject to change since it's in the furniture

But it's the correct one for now

[fervent orbit]

man doesnt even know wat face melter is

[glass arch]

abyss shocker

[glass arch]

crazy guess

[bright crag]

I won't tell you :p

I'll help solely with the names

[fervent orbit]

[glass arch]

damn

[fervent orbit]

needs updating smh

[glass arch]

does the unknown mage one start with Space

[wide river]

I think it's fine as is
Let people fill in the blanks

[fervent orbit]

space shurikens?

s???? shurikens

[glass arch]

Storm

maybe

[bright crag]

The one above Turbulance is the whip smh

[fervent orbit]

oh

[glass arch]

oh yeah

[drowsy plank]

sslap shandtwo

[glass arch]

Storm Shandtwo

[fervent orbit]

sslap

[glass arch]

Storm Synthesis
god damn thats actually a banger name i gotta save that for later

[fervent orbit]

hi shade!

[grim tusk]

Electrolysis but fancier

[drowsy plank]

yes the joke is i was saying the weapons was called "slap hand two" but was trying to fit it within the spaces provided

[glass arch]

i have no idea what that is but sure

[grim tusk]

👋

[bright crag]

One half is correct

I doubt you'll get the other right

[fervent orbit]

smoke synthesis?

[glass arch]

Shade Synthesis (i may or may not have a list of words that start with S up on my computer rn)

[fervent orbit]

clueless is very concerning

[wide river]

The react speaks volumes

[glass arch]

yeah the clueless tells me Storm is the right half

[grim tusk]

The chemical process of separating water into Helium and Oxygen via an electrical current.

It has various aplications including batteries to rival the conventional ones as the process is reversible.

[bright crag]

Are you guys remembering that this is Aerialite...?

[fervent orbit]

no

jkjk

[glass arch]

im just looking for vaguely sky related words

[wide river]

I've stopped guessing because I have no idea
Plus, I think it's more fun to watch the chaos

[fervent orbit]

how many letters is the 2nd word

[glass arch]

9

[fervent orbit]

WHY DOES DISCORD WANT ME TO USE STRICKERS

[bright crag]

Trust me, you have better odds with anything else

[grim tusk]

Based

[glass arch]

maybe ##### Substrate

[bright crag]

You are never guessing that word unassisted

[fervent orbit]

HAPPY????????

[grim tusk]

Its Aerialite related, not chemistry related

[fervent orbit]

sailmaker

[glass arch]

frankly

[fervent orbit]

[bright crag]

So true

[glass arch]

i may be in painting class but i forgot substrate wasnt a term for cloud types

[bright crag]

See this is why I post these things so often

It's so entertaining

[fervent orbit]

i need a measurement of closeness

[grim tusk]

Pretty sure that has nothing to do with clouds

[bright crag]

^

[glass arch]

it sounds vaguely cloudy

[wide river]

Is it because "strate" sounds vaguely like "stratus"

[glass arch]

probably

[grim tusk]

A substrate is an underlying layer or substance

[glass arch]

yeah when you said chemistry i remembered what substrate is

(i dont use it for chemistry i just use it to say what im making my art on)

[fervent orbit]

welp ig stip is gone

[bright crag]

I'm here

Making a funny coded message

[hybrid steeple]

[glass arch]

👀

[bright crag]

This reminds me of Gravity Falls

[fervent orbit]

ejdindnrjejsd

GF?!?!?!?!

stip is omega based rn fr fr

[bright crag]

Eizoha mlax jwac bavoyxp svqxw ss mise
I zmlhvl hlzisor kw ptmkge xyg pcmr
Wwivxiyo pmnhj bo ozbze xymm letc
A wnmee uxpohp, aofzxh bc kqmp
Uxxap kiiw ktplmeo sewkq ir zbs azbqe
Me bucuhml ect fllxw irkw szzkswjlt tltx
Fux kpe oztkor'j xohmk aipc ilhirw pvvdatt.```

Have fun!

Let's see how you fare against this encryption

[glass arch]

i do not fare against it at all

[bright crag]

This will be an interesting experiment

[fossil finch]

decoder websites

its funny the random leterring makes me think its just

the one where you take every letter and roll them up or down a couple positions

[bright crag]

Caesar cipher is too basic for this :p

[fervent orbit]

ceaser cipher doesnt work im useless

[glass arch]

caesar cipher but you reversed it before encrypting it

[hybrid steeple]

shrimple

A noble sword for lords of the past
Arrows that soar through skies so vast
A gilded harpoon to pierce thy prey
Sweeping winds to drive them away
A sweet melody, soured by time
Metal tail calling storm in its prime
In turmoil all fades into sorrowful tale
But the dragon's power will always prevail.

[bright crag]

Fuck

How

[hybrid steeple]

dcode.com SWEEPS

[glass arch]

LMFAOOOO

[wide river]

Aw, now that's no fun

[bright crag]

HOW

[fossil finch]

dcode dot come thats eaxctly what we were looking for

[glass arch]

decoding websites built different i guess????

[fervent orbit]

so true dcode just has every bs answer possible

[wide river]

That still doesn't help me in the slightest so I've not gained anything from it

[fossil finch]

like theres obnly so many algorithms babe if it wasnt mhand made a website out there has them all and just scans uses them

[glass arch]

wait hold on

HOLD ON

EACH LINE REPRESENTS A WEAPON

[hybrid steeple]

yeah

[fervent orbit]

who knew...

was it the galeforce or tessen one that gave it away

[bright crag]

I guess I'll just not post any more codes

This was a Vigenère cipher with the key being "aerialite"

[glass arch]

[hybrid steeple]

also just one cipher with the key aeriealite was
not what I was expecting

[bright crag]

To be fair
Vigenere is quite robust

You need the key word

[fossil finch]

it is until the key is explicit

[bright crag]

Imagine if I made the key more obscure

Anyways... there you go

[fervent orbit]

but um

this just explains the weapons

[glass arch]

A noble sword for lords of the past
Arrows that soar through skies so vast
A gilded harpoon to pierce thy prey
Sweeping winds to drive them away
A sweet melody, soured by time
Metal tail calling storm in its prime
In turmoil all fades into sorrowful tale
But the dragon's power will always prevail
the ones we already know are crossed off

[fervent orbit]

replying to put down here

[fossil finch]

tbh what calamity teasers really need is the scottesque vibes
Brighten up an image, look at the html code, and youll get a very simple clue or teasers that does not actually explicitly say anything so the community is left to theorize whether mirroring the image makes up the weird sprite actually being yharim

anyways metal tail is literlaly just a whip theres no other weapon in existence that would ever fit such a description

a harpoon is infact a harpoon and melody thing is mage weapon 2 its some sort of uhhh

instruments associated with wind google search

[bright crag]

I chose my words carefully

[fossil finch]

why did we ever think google would answer with anything that was not Literally Wind Instruments

[fervent orbit]

3rd one is Gilded ???????

being on mobile sucks

i cant count letters

[fossil finch]

itd be very fucking funny if aerealite just had a Big Fucking Tuba as a weapon actual

[fervent orbit]

cant tell if harpoon fits

[bright crag]

Harpoon isn't used

[fossil finch]

dont think itd be literally called gilded harpoon eitherway

[bright crag]

It's another word
You'll have to extrapolate a bit to find it

[fossil finch]

synonyms for harpoon or otherwise sharpy hooky things

[bright crag]

Not a descriptor for an item

[fervent orbit]

how many letters is it i literally cant count

[bright crag]

It's more of a people descriptor like "reaper"

Or "seller"

[fossil finch]

ah clearly

gilded harpooner

[fervent orbit]

trident?

[bright crag]

Not harpooner

[fossil finch]

[fervent orbit]

idk im just spitballing

[bright crag]

Nah

[fossil finch]

gilded tridenter the

[wide river]

Harpooner'd be such a lame name for a weapon

[hybrid steeple]

you'd need to have multiple layers of encryption to get past decoding sites
I could help with further ones but
devless

[bright crag]

The Mage one is probably the easiest imo iirc ngl tbh

[bright crag]

Oh, I just never had the experience of decoding sites :p
My sole experience with encrypting is Gravity Falls secrets lol

[glass arch]

Skylark's Song

[fossil finch]

the only way to make an encrypted message thats not just cracked by a dude with a computer with technology past '87 and an internet connection is just hand making it

[fervent orbit]

forgot fr rn ong

[hybrid steeple]

everyone think up as many synonyms for harpoon as possible

[bright crag]

It's not that smh

[wide river]

I like how everyone is focused on harpoons
But not the suggestion in posting

[fervent orbit]

can u tell me how many letters it is

[fossil finch]

people kind of struggled a lot figuring out draedonese and it was the most simple thing ever but because its character replacement with something that just doesnt exist outside of the puzzle it took a while to fully decypher all the symbols

its 8

[fervent orbit]

yea watever its only the helix lasers of deus thats bad

anyway

[bright crag]

12345678

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thanks

[bright crag]

So, 8

[hybrid steeple]

3rd deus sugg in like as many days

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counting on mobile is hard

[fossil finch]

deus ml replacement when

[fervent orbit]

never

I WAS GONNA SAY PIERCER BUT THATS 7

[wide river]

Spiercer

[bright crag]

You can try the others
One has a word from this chat

[fervent orbit]

storm

[bright crag]

Other than that

[wide river]

Chat

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storm piercer or smthn idk

[hybrid steeple]

this

[bright crag]

Nvm

[fervent orbit]

stip did u lie

[bright crag]

No

Actually, of the remaining names
Their respective verse carries one of the words

Like Gilded

[fossil finch]

clearly the whip is called storm tai

[fervent orbit]

dragons?

[fossil finch]

in under what circumstances, would a weapons name include the word "Dragons"

[hybrid steeple]

can you post the names thing again

[fervent orbit]

im too lazy to post the apostrophe

idot

[fossil finch]

we understand if it was like, "Dragon's" something xd

[bright crag]

.

[hybrid steeple]

tu

[wide river]

Staff of Dragons
I don't think one exists but it's a possibility

[hybrid steeple]

*ty

[fossil finch]

simply post the aposthrephe

[bright crag]

Not Dragons, "Dragon"

[fossil finch]

it can only be so much

[fervent orbit]

.

[fossil finch]

theres like 2 spots left that fit the word dragon and its the last one anyway isnt

it

[bright crag]

Yes

[fossil finch]

dragon every single 4 letter word that could fit

[fervent orbit]

theres alot of 4 letter words

[fossil finch]

wed say tail but thats an earlier weapon so clearly it is not

[fervent orbit]

isnt this another rogue weapon or smthn?

[hybrid steeple]

3rd is melody of something probably

[fossil finch]

the only other thing resembling a clue is the fact its "the dragons power"

soul does have 4 letters but

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Dragon Star

[fossil finch]

maybe

[hybrid steeple]

what class is the last weapon?

[bright crag]

Rogue

[fossil finch]

melody of urmother is off by one letter sadly crying right now

[fervent orbit]

my thought of star was because of other rogue weapons also including star like blazing star or star of destruction

[fossil finch]

this is slowly becoming a hangman game

[bright crag]

It's not

It's precisely on the size

[fervent orbit]

Dragon Ball

[hybrid steeple]

TRUE

[fossil finch]

awesome our joke actually worked were just blind

[errant wren]

what i'm gathering here is some weapon thing and trying to figure out what each line represents

[bright crag]

Yeah

[fossil finch]

were cracking the code like bigboys

anyways dragon rogue thing

[hybrid steeple]

we know what the lines represent
we're figuring out the other words now

[fervent orbit]

the new aerialite weapons

[fossil finch]

theres only so many rogue things that fit 4 letters tbh

[novel belfry]

i cant believe #suggestions-discussion evolved into Vetrasyl_s_spoiler_emporium

[fossil finch]

unless the 4 letter word is everything but a weapon descriptor then good luck

its awesome right

[bright crag]

Everywhere is my spoiler emporium

https://tenor.com/view/littlemoefades-drake-tiktok-looking-creepy-gif-23822998

[fervent orbit]

Dragon Fist

Dragon Kris

[fossil finch]

ah yes the dragon kris deltarune

[fervent orbit]

im just saying other rogue weapons at this point

Dragon Gaze

[fossil finch]

guys we have cracked the code clearly the last one is not actually a rogue weapon its a material and its actually dragon dust

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Dragon Pack

[errant wren]

man i wish i kept up with the mod for once

[fervent orbit]

Dragon Riot

[errant wren]

Dragon Rage?

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Dragon Bomb

thats alr a weapon

[errant wren]

oh right

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Dragon Clam

[fossil finch]

wait

dragon claw

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Dragon Dart

[fossil finch]

thatd be funny

[fervent orbit]

ydjdns

[fossil finch]

being added to next bloons update

[fervent orbit]

tbf im just listing other rogue weapons

expecting it to work

[novel belfry]

Dragon Soul

[fervent orbit]

alr said

[fossil finch]

dragon claw feels like a good guess tbh we will see

[errant wren]

i already forgot what we have even though i didn't actually see the list

[novel belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[fervent orbit]

lets just move on tbh

which one we havent done

[fossil finch]

is there anything specifically important about the power of a dragon prevailing that could shine any clues on the case

[fervent orbit]

soul is about it

[hybrid steeple]

vetrasyl becoming real and lightninging a hole through my roof to deliver an encoded message

[fervent orbit]

unless transmac yharim can tell us

[fossil finch]

melody of ur mother and storm OBviously A Whip

ah yes

dragon gold

clearly

[errant wren]

dragon whip

[fossil finch]

[fervent orbit]

its a rogue weapon

[fossil finch]

(acting like this is not just literally what aerealite is called)

[hybrid steeple]

yeah soul is all that fits

theres blood but thats one letter too many

[fossil finch]

dragon bloo

dragon icor fits

[errant wren]

clot

[fossil finch]

its not the correct spelling of it on english but we'll ignore that

[bright crag]

So true

[fervent orbit]

is it dragon claw

[bright crag]

Close but no

[fervent orbit]

fuuuck

wait close???

dragon jaws

dragon bite

[cobalt pewter]

dragon talons

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uhh

[errant wren]

four letters

[fossil finch]

ah yes

[fervent orbit]

other body parts that are 4 letters

dragon arms

[cobalt pewter]

ah

[fossil finch]

dragon Jaws

the popular movie about

[errant wren]

wing

[cobalt pewter]

dragon cock

[fervent orbit]

dragon legs

[fossil finch]

dragon hand

[fervent orbit]

dragon thot

its clearly dragon body part

[north oracle]

what the fuck

dragon claw?

[fervent orbit]

no

[north oracle]

ah, damn

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fluffy read

[north oracle]

no

[fossil finch]

Dragon Nail

[fervent orbit]

thats so uncool

[fossil finch]

dragon horn