#suggestions-discussion
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ye it has been
Fabsol: so disgusted at the party girl bathwater tooltip that he removes it from the mod
Also Fabsol:
sorry this is now just Mean
I get it already, the mod's not pure
yeah
No it’s truthful
xpc always coming out with the biggest suggestions lao
It’s literally pointing out things in the calamity mod
90% of which die in voting because people vote for the shorter and simpler ones more often
ok but i think this one will be more popular
oh boy this sugg
people love things being clarified
Make this thing make more sense is always good
I do recall Oz being open to items revealing specific details on tooltips when holding shift
ooh yea
you could do smthn like that
Holding [Shift] goes more in depth of an item
I don't think that's good on all of them, the shorter ones would be better to just rephrase
true
Like, you don't want a shift popup for Band of Regeneration of all things
the context of this was Cobalt Armor passive
If you dont like nurse cheese literally just play death mode
Why go through a bunch of complicated changes when you can just go play a mode that disables her during bossfights
Because Death Mode is just "deleting" and not "balancing", according to the suggestion poster
or just dont nurse cheese
dont even have to upgrade to death you can just decide to not nurse cheese if you think its that much of an issue
When the "Add potion shop config because my friends can't be trusted" suggestion
That was certainly a suggestion of all time
yeah and it can be completely dismantled in one sentence: you trying to micromanage your friends isnt cal's issue
Suggestions like that are always quite strange
Like the "add a thing to lock the player into Revengeance or Death Mode" suggestion from a while back
Suggestion: Make it so that to use the Nurse you have to take out bank loan and health insurance, arrange a doctor's visit, describe your symptoms and conditions, wait some time for Nurse to identify if those symptoms are true and identify what sickness you have and before you are treated you have to sign sick leave and also wait 3 days to recover from the treatment
Also if you are not hurt enough the Nurse will tell you to go home and drink some warm water because they have no time for your pesky little injury
Make it so the Nurse requires your credit card number to heal
jack up the price to 500 platinum and give it a 75% chance to not do anything while still taking your money
Ah yes, American Healthcare™️
game design is my passion 😎
"10% chance for you to received a failed surgery because why would you consult a Nurse for surgery instead of an actual physician"
insert cosmic elemental quantum tunneling suggestion
Someone should resuggest that at some point
(do not)
an apple a day

Good
Btw
Melee isn't getting a new drop
Wind Blade is unaltered tho
Mage lost Tradewinds but got 2 new weapons in return
Hmm yes this sword is shit
Leave it at that
Your Regular Projectile Sword
But it sucks enemies in
I remember back when Slime God'a big slimes didn't count as boss NPCs and were getting sucked by Wind Blade's projectile

The wind vortex can have good interactions with true melee
Since it can essentially trap enemies
Though I think the current problem is that the projectile is unreliable for that purpose
So tre
I don't have any particular love for Wind Blade, but other devs have voiced their appreciation for the weapon
And they do have a point so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
high standards i see i see
TRUE
Goldplume wasn't unique in any way
But yeah we do wanna have less swords
that shrimple
Pre-hardmode projectile spear
At least something unique
wants less swords
removes the spear
keeps the sword
So expect Perfect Dark to become another subclass, for example
It's specifically Wind Blade that's staying
Because a sword does fit Aerialite as it's characterized
Fair
Neither of you really went against our argument, so like
What is there to complain?
If the projectile is ugly, it can be resprited
The item itself will already
Isn't a lot of the mod getting resprites eventually to look more updated
Yes
Also the other weapons are brand new
In 5 years it’ll happen
I already knew that
Yep

they better be good
(Why the boohoo? Tradewinds was incredibly unoriginal and pretty meh)
Trade winds noooooooo
🤨
(I'll take 2 new bc variety will be nice)
The projectiles move quickly! Unique!
i don't remember using any of the aerialite weapons 
I've used a few
except galeforcé because it was in guide class setups, didn't like it tho
Literally.
I've only ever used Galeforce and Turbulance
Both of which were awful at the time of using them
tradewinds was dog
anyway why not just make goldplume wind blade (aka, give the spear the sword's projectile and remove the sword) 
no that;s deathwind 
💥
In terms of Aeralite stuff:
Wind Blade, boring name, boring functionality
Goldplume Spear: Cool and strong but feels shit to use
Gale force: Jester arrows go brrrr
Tradewinds: Absolutely amazing for queen bee
(Then after that I haven't used the others at all)
It's near useless for spam rogue, but pretty good for stealth rogue
What would that accomplish...?
more spears, less swords 
Also just
Gets rid of the dogshit functionality of goldplume
As goldplume is shit to use
Even just the first part of that and I would be happy
And as I said, we plan on converting other swords into spears/flails/etc
oh fair enough
Fair enough
super swag
So Wind Blade will turn into something interesting? 
Is all the Aeralite rework stuff coming with the port or later?
Later, probably
Fair
(Not Wind Blade, but for example, evil-2 melee drops)
if it did it would be funny because it would be the second time (in a row) that a port reworked a pre-hardmode...set
Ah yes
The old gravity-affected projectile swords
Gotta love those
Oh come on 
Just evil-2’s melee drops?
evil-2's continued existence is truly one of the decisions ever
not like we've come up with any actually good idea for them tho 
I was asked about only melee :p
Specifically sword bloat
Make hive mind not unironically easier than KS when
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tradewinds is biofusillade if it was good
The best idea thus far has been
Removal 
Trai-
Not really
Other devs seem to really like Wind Blade
I'm satisfied as long as we have a sword or spear in Aerialite
Trade winds is biofusillade if it was substandard
Honestly I'm more interested in the other weapons
Instead of dogshit
And being a dev involves compromising between different interests so
makes sense
Sky Stabber stealth when Deerclops: (Removes Deerclops from the game)
It was a joke, I do understand that there's a team of other devs that have their own mind
i spent like 20 minutes just looking at the 1.0 weapons still in the game and They Sure Are
i mean
if thats not good idk wat is
Balance for reasoning to exist
yeah biofusillade is also viable that isnt the point
I'm sorry, the spiky ball deletes Deerclops?
Looks to be so
Any weapon can be viable or unviable if you buff/nerf it enough
it's that the feather was barely better than the nondescript green energy
Doesn’t mean every weapon should exist
sky stabber floats and deerclops doesnt move sooooooooooo
^
well he does but
It just shreds him
man to even call that dude a boss
He gets deleted instantly
Side note: Why are Spiky Balls pretty much a subclass
bc they are
Bc they’re better than what a lot of rogue has?????
rogue when they need to actually have weapons bc they have nothing in vanilla to fall back on
Hmmm yes spiky ball boosting armor when 
Spiky balls are a cool underdog
Literally
That's why Cal should make a Deerclops Rev+ AI
Facts

shroomite: rogue edition
rogue post ml: 
where is blast fr
Ong
Wake up
Ngl
My two favorite weapons, luckily, were kept from the initial concepts
without blast to remind me ill probably start believing you at this rate
A Mage one, and a Rogue one
I love spiky ball
especially how most of them just randomly perform 10x better in a small arena
Feather Knives?
Feather Knives will be tiershifted to post-EoC, to Sky Glaze's side
Pure Aerialite pretty much doesn't have feather themes anymore
It focuses on wind and storm
At least
Turbulance had a change to the stealth strike
And there's a brand new weapon, one of my favorites
Thank goodness
Multitheme sets are pretty 
They prevent us from using the theme 5 times in a row!!!!!
perennial and uelibloom found dead in a corner
Wdym shooting feathers isn't unique 

I'm really excited about Aerialite
Welcome to what cal devs have to deal with
I was the "lead" per say in the conceptualization
I wrote the majority of the lore, and organized/brainstormed the weapons
AERIALITE LORE?
tell me more
Aerialite lore real
Still hoping for Cryonic and Scoria set reworks at some point
Hopefully, yes
soon
Though we might rework Statigel first
Soon™️
seems like theyre going from pre hm forward
(After Aerialite)
which means stati next?
i think that's been the plans since wulfrum & victide reworks
Difficulty: Impossible
(altho wulfrum did come after victide...)
I haven’t heard of vanilla sets being that much of a pain
Sprites are being made, these are done by Triangle
This is the last public picture of the new Aerialite btw
well fed pumpkin armor soon™️
can we get more pictures thanks
Armors will be Ranged and Mage
Hoping for Statigel being a Melee/Rogue armor to compensate 🙏
(I can't share more pics)

what bout the other 3 classes
screw the rules tell us all
no
melee waiting for a preboss armor since 2016
Statigel will likely be the antithesis
Melee/Rogue/Summoner
so why is aerialite splitting up summoner and mage
Idea: Artists like to have the work done before sharing it
Not saying that's what's happening here, but it could be the reason
So stati's getting a retier?
We wanna move away from 5-helmet sets
And we thought ranged and mage fit
It's honestly either shocking or insulting that you didn't expect this 
No
Why would it?
That would entail Slime God getting retiered as well
Fair
john statis the thrower summoner
ranged has necro but mage doesnt have a new set
He throws the summons at people
evil 2 bosses retier would be ebtter?? i mean at least you don't have to literally go
evil boss 1 > evil boss 2 in progression
melee style
suprised that it wasnt melee/mage/rogue since summoner literally just got bee armor from QB at statigel tier
never
true
in terms of overlapping armor sets
We can fill the necessary gaps with standalone armors
enjoy fighting the two bosses of the same biome one right aftee the other
and rogue gets jack shit now
fair
Bee armor is pre-Skeletron
Closer to evil-2 than SG
Me when I don’t get an armor set literally every boss (this is so cringe) 
And Summoner also has Obsidian before Bee
kid named obsidian
Sulphurous is decent, I don't know what you're talking about
The average Calamity player mindset
mmm yes
i mean this is true but it's still the set they'd be using on WoF if not obsidian which is even earlier
rogue getting one (one) set
sulphurous up until statigel
i feel like what you said just sort of reinforces my point
It's not really about being decent, moreso about spacing out armors adequately
rogue really needs one at what was previously aerialite tier, and mage could use one at statigel tier if the jungle armor nerfs ever actually become real
I mean, as a Mage you can fight WoF with preboss armor
melee is still funny as fuck
yes and that mayhaps be a problem 
Yeah, basically
you get molten and shadow then kill another evil boss and ge aerealite
Ideally we'll adjust Mage pre-HM armors before inserting new Aerialite
Mage armor sets when they uhhhh make no fucking sense
oh and a preBoss specific melee set could be nice since Iban's is obviously dead
its funny how molten, necro, jungle and obsidian/bee are all meant to be used on wof in vanilla but are gotten at wildly different times
Just move Meteor because the evil bosses spawning it is ❓
maybe rework fossil to be melee/ranged multiclass 
they do
They do
GUH
you have to Kill them for meteros to spawn
wat r u on
Loud incorrect buzzer
????
They do lol
You need to kill Evil 1 to get meteorite
1.4
since WHEN
1.4

istg
"erhm aktually you can get meteorite pre boss"
Or find it in golden chests near hell for some reason
fuck this game on goddddd
so yeah meteor and aerialite kinda overlapping is a bit sussy
Almost three years now since that happened
i thought that was reverted
OH
JUMPSCARE
WHAT
and 1.4 alamity
Suddenly moderators
W
GG COG AND ECLIPSE
trial mod jumpscare
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
WHAT
Jumpscare
Woah
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
LOL????????????
Gg!
AND FRYZAHH
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
just watched like 3 names change in real time
AND CITRUS
lmao
The powertrips begin
Trial mods!
REB TOO????
and whoever rebecca is
Huh?
MY TROLLING POWERS
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
im fucking dying on god
The chat has been thrown into chaos at this
Aw come on 
we're winning
THE W
This is fantastic 
I envy you now
ok can i get trial mod now (jk i didnt finish my app)
So who wants to moderate cmt
Congratulations!!
I love negativity
k lol
comically timed
I want to completely shutdown any and all hope of anyone new coming to this chat
behave well
comedy
You changed nothing other than adding 5 words
"give a weapon more upgrade" is applicable to every single weapon in the game
as in, every single one
Cei trial mod kinda based
you should give better reasoning why exactly flamelash to get an upgrade beyond "but I like the weapon"
What the heck Cei too
especially that rainbow rod is basically hardmode flamelash
i joined and i see everyone has a role and it was extremely confusing
Ikr
Trial mod moment
why do u have a number at the ned of ur name now
Next time I'll definitely make sure to apply if the turnout was like this
so it matches with my steam username
they were cloned
Calamity Discord users when someone likes being consistent (this is outrageous)
I should apply next time if I’m still active here
see my steam username would have just been imjacob but i was forced into having imjacob17
this is why i use notes
same
can't you literally just change your steam name
And who the 4 dozes are
🤓
I have all of your speech patterns memorized
You cannot hide from me
do you now?
Doubt
I just look to see if people are incredibly negative towards ideas 
cei is playing btd6 i bet she dont even know she got trial mod
maybe idk
We should ping her
actually my steam name is just jacob rn
She got her priorities straight
good idea
There was a new btd6 update today so fair enough
@jovial spire ik ur playing funny monke game but congrats on trial mod!
wait today?
like the
Yeah
the new monkey?
New monke has joined the roster
Nohitcord has been talking about it all day lmao
NO ONE FUCKING TOLD ME
Yes, the beast handler is here
L

Discord servers having a topic is a myth 
Could you take this convo from this channel to media or something?
Most calamity filled #suggestions-discussion :
i return to the moderation team after years of dormancy
There’s trial mods, topics are meaningless
(technically 2 is multiple)
So true
Trial mod Cei
new monkey or new hero
Yeee
new monke
new monkey
Monke
its a support
beast tamer
oh cei isn't orange
Were you a moderator before?
I wasn't here if you were around as one
holy shit they dont ever do that anymore
Now they have
Oh beast tamer finally came out? Dang, a reason for me to open btd6 for the first time since like, january lol
Ikr
Congratulations, Cei ^-^
Yeah, back in 2020 and early 2021.
i gotta play btd6 for once
I wouldn’t even want to become a full mod
i havent touched it for ages
Still praying for the Bloonchipper to make a return 🙏
the last monkey to be added to btd6 before this was dartling and that isnt even a new monkey
wait it released???
ok bloon time
NK already confirmed it will never happen
bc you aren't exposed to it that often
can i be trial mod just for the aesthetics?
Nah, the colour is kinda ew
fuck you
likely eont ever come back
wait don't server boosters get an icon

it wont be iirc
I am saddened by this development
yea but its just the generic one every server has
it wont be
Yeah
bloonchipper was simply too powerful
i saw someone with a different one
Patreons also get one
Oh my God guys
If they pay enough
ah
Four people didn't need to mention it
Two was enough
Chipper is a balance nightmare
Yeah
bloonchipper would be amazing to have but its also horribly broken in btd5 in my experience
but that takes money

just wanted to make sure you knew
I don’t have that either
SWF is THE single most broken tier 4 to ever exist, bar none
we have bloonchipper hero who is balanced tho
Can I get a custom role colour just for me 
Hmm yes I've been pinged four times
What could be happening 
i should join nohitcord but no
chipper could be a hero
anyways im off to play more antimatter dimensions i gotta figure out this cel 3 shit
and be balanced
guys, what if we kissed talked about dart throwing apes in #general-media 👉 👈
no
Because I’m special
Don’t be absurd
can i get a custom role color just for me
because i'm doze
remade it
that is so true
@dense ferry I've found some shit for you to do
this sounds like an sis
Now you're too specific
Make sure to read the pins before making suggestions
yea join in with the convo rebecca
This is very sis
Ok what happened already 
let cei do it ess ehm haich
The whole channel is off-topic
guys i dont think this new guy knows how to do stuff
You didn't provide any reasoning, you just made it into a specific item suggestion, do what Enchilada said and read the pins please
We’re just a little bit off topic 
no we r on topic now
You're not
plus doesnt it already kinda exist in the form of rainbow rod
Yeah, after I called Becca in
You can drop watching chat 

no
damn time to kill all of #lore-discussion because calamity lore is a side topic in there 90% of the time
So true............
the mods ARE the law
Mods make laws
Becca is a trial mod
Most of it is talking about Dragon Ball and the theoretical activity of something completely unrelated
guh i wouldve finished the app if i knew how aesthetically cool id look
She's not law for now
Suggested law
well we arent talking to a mod in chat arent we
Trial law
no we arent

No
The topic doesn't exist
The topic is suggestions posted in #suggestions-posting
ok fine
the fuck does topic mean
We're discussing nothing from and about that
Noob what are you cooking
GUYS #suggestions-posting
❓

WE CAN TALK ABOUT BTD6
You guys sometimes are incomprehensible
This suggestion seems poorly formatted
I will kindly ask you to delete that, please
Why have you done this
That's not how it works you dummy

NOOB YOU BITCH THATS NOT WHAT THE CHANNEL IS FOR
w;fple]
Strange users
this is hilarious
@dense ferry Pinged bitch
I'm dying omg
We’re going to need a bit more reasoning for that suggestion noob

btd6 is cool 👍
fuck gotta wait 9 minutes
I will ban you for profanity
so about that suggestion
So unfortunate
Insta warned
not in the rules
rainbow rod exist
it is basically just flamelash, except not use flamelash in the recipe
I make the rules now 😎
xpc did u not see my suggestion before i deleted it?
no ur on trial
Rebecca can't ban me anyway because my blue is cooler than her's tbh
what makes texas bread different from normal bread
tbh, true
Anyways yeah I will leave you to you now
Very true
no
Trial mod colour is kinda ech
how does that relate to flamelash
Don't say that when they're around
You'll get removed for that
cuz some guy said sugg disc is about sugg posting
I'll call you again in 2 minutes don't worry
so i posted "talk about btd6"
Hey that was mean
They should just get a better colour smh
When the failed loophole
i am 5 parallel universes ahead of everyone
No, it will talk about you being dumb and not knowing the rules of suggestions segment
wdym failed

The mods are a parallel universe ahead of you
^
Imagine not reading the suggestions doc before posting
So true
...
that will be a server suggestion not #suggestions-posting ,therefore it goes to mod mail
So true?
its not funny when you explain stuff

The rush of seeing trial moderators went to their head
We've lost them
dun
We should get a btd6 thread in calcord 
Cope
anyways off to sleep
That’s still very sisy
We should get a gaming channel
replace that i with a u
Oh wait there is one it's #general-media
You have not adressed the fact it's a SiS, or the fact rainbow rod already exists

makes post in posting
refuses to elaborate
"dun"
leaves chat
I don’t like that channel 
This channel has went off the rails in a hurry ever since people got promoted
no one likes the general channels
more mods = more chaos
Trial mods were clearly a bad idea
SiS? The hell is that
Subjective opinion detected
Specific Item Suggestion
Specific item suggestion
0 moderators must be best then 
(I'm kidding)
Specific item suggestion, this is in the pinned messages which we mentioned you should read before making a post
u like the gen channels because u dont get told off at all
Please read the suggestions document then rewrite your suggestion 
wheres the thrill
@dense ferry oh hey look I told ya I'll call you in two minutes 
the mystery
😭
If you really need to go to sleep, then delete it and suggest it again tomorrow
(4 minutes have passed but who cares)
Or just don't suggest it again, whichever you prefer
What powers do trial mods get?
Afaik I just can't ban people
i assume giving warn is as best as u can do
She could time you out for being too sassy
possibly mute
Be nice to the trial mods
They can warn you

specific item suggestion, as in suggesting a brand new weapon to be added and listing its mechanics and (not in your case) what it drops from or what materials you need to crsft it
Double jump, telekinesis and firebreath
but if they warn me
Fair enough
how will i post results of funny weapons?
That's the thing
So behave or get bonked
You won't
So you listen to the rules to keep that privilege
meh
we can react but i dont know the policy on us applying voting flags atm
whats stopping you from asking rover
You’re going to be an excellent suggestions mod lmao
Wow that's one hell of a scheme
Your behavior has really deteriorated since the trial moderators were announced, I've noticed
actively calling out the willingness to commit warn evasion via other people to trial mods
oh hey add is here
Get back on topic
@ripe owl Don't minimod
Move on
I don't 😭
Noob got a bit excited 
I called Becca a few times so she could mod
Move on
hello add
thank you add
u dont come here often
Thanks add
Oh my God please
Move on
Anyway so far there are some nice suggestions in the posting (at least the ones that are not marked)
Dun
It didn't get any better
Bruh
There are still specifics
Gn
G'night
That change kinda achieved nothing in fixing the suggestion
Just leave it be for now, methinks
There's still plenty of time to fix it later
The suggestion is asking for a direct upgrade to the Flamelash, not a spiritual upgrade
yeah but like
what hes proposing is like
on tier with rainbow rod
so why bother at that point
The suggestion itself will be fine, provided the recipe and function parts get removed. The reasoning may be weak after that, but at the very least it won't be breaking any rules.
yeah thats true
and even then weak reasoning isnt a good thing to have on a suggestion
and also because of as said previously, the recipe and function
broke: making a suggestion that's SIS
woke: making a SIS suggestion
@maiden sequoia if you want to revise this suggestion, may i point out the existence of our second magic missile upgrade; shifting sands? magic missile already has a TON of upgrades, but we've already discussed the possibility of replacing the magic missile in this item with flamelash in this channel before anyway, though, the addition of a completely new upgrade for flamelash seems... a bit unwarranted considering how many "follow the cursor" items we already have tbf ^^;
and yes. it is also a specific item suggestion, so reading the rules in the pins would be appreciated
adding (sis) doesnt make it not break the rules any less
Ain't knew about that
that's what i'm here for!
tldr yeah
(and also rainbow rod exist and it is of course identical to flamelash)
focus on why we need flamelash upgrade, not how a flamelash upgrade can be implemented
and shifting sands is identical to both as well
im sure you could argue even more fall under that category too
yeah
I mean if you think really hard spectre staff is basically a flamelash upgrade that don't require you to aim with your cursor and rapidfire
basically
This channel is about suggesting a solution to a problem, not just suggesting something you think is cool
explain why a lack of an upgrade is a problem
a good rule of thumb tbh
kinda true but also not entirely
we're bashing this man's suggestion and he's literally gone to sleep
but yeah in general
so buisness as usual?
I mean they are awake 8 min ago so 
average suggestions posting conversation
Idk I haven't seen a suggestion get passed that isn't solving a problem in a very long time
if there is no 50 pings in the morning it is not suggestion discussion
I said that they could fix it when they woke up, we don't need to keep telling them that it's flawed somehow
They know about this stuff already
If they're actually sleeping, I don't actually know 🤷
that would be weird if you did know
Or would it?
No, it definitely would
that would be extremely weird
Pretty much (Also yoooo congratz on trial mod!!!)
Sooooooo trueeeeeeeeeeeeeee
You missed the show earlier when it happened
It got pretty bad
Nah I was lurking instead of participating
we somehow ended up in btd6 because cei was playing it
That is much better than whatever was happening
dankashon 
btd6 is highkey therapeutic
Completely unrelated, but congrats on trial mod!
thanks lol
I'm quite new to calamity so I don't even armor progression and items
Anyways
snores mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi
that is
not grammatically correct but it sounds like you don't want to fix it so
guess it'll just die lol
What
me when I the cat 
Plus
My pc can make multi-player difficult
Especially worm enemies, jelly fish when player underwater. They glitchy as hell
Anyways
mm
This is all one sentence
@heady root give it a title
And correct the spelling mistake
There are spelling mistakes and grammar mistakes but eh
put spacing (shift + enter on pc) between the header and the explanation
the main reason tracers don't have them because hover effect is surprisingly good
and tracers is already a lot better than wings at horizontal flight speed
hover is powerful yeah
not just "able to move horizontally with high stability", but most importantly the fact that "you can stay in place in air"
which is EXTREMELY useful
while maybe not tracers i do think there should be post ml hover wings other than starboard
This is random BUT
The vanity item tooltip
Regardless if its an accessory or a piece of dev armor
Whenever you equip it in a vanity slot, the tooltip gets changed to "equipped in social slot, no stats will be gained"
I think that this should be turned off for accessories and armor that are purely vanity
So no matter where you equip them, they retain their tooltip
But accessories and armor that affect the player's stats will still have the "equipped in social slot" tooltip when equipped as vanity
Its a really minor thing but it wouldn't be hard to do right
Thoughts?
So you want all accessories to have the tooltip when in a vanity slot
This is actually quite annoying, but what I’d want to happen would be to press shift and have the stats be revealed or something
Especially for comparing set bonuses it would be very convenient. Although we’re getting loadouts which will help a ton anyway ig
Yeah the best outcome would show what the item does + this is a vanity therefore it does nothing
No?
Only accessories that are purely vanity
Not accessories that affect the player in any way
Since
- Their tooltip is already indicative of them being vanity items
- They don't have stats in the first place, so why display the "no stats will be gained" tooltip in the first place
icicle arrow type sugg but this might actually take effort so idk if it'll pass
Icicle arrow?
small trivial aesthetic change
If the accessory/armor piece has "Vanity Item" in its tooltip, simply disable the "Equipped in social slot, no stats will be gained"
yeah but like
that's a vanilla thing
so i could bet 5 bucks it isn't gonna be that simple
Also woah you're a trial mod
yeah lol
Congrats on that
thanks
it's "simple" in the same way allowing you to spawn golem before plantera is, probably 
Tooltip changes/custom tooltips are already present all around the mod
yes this isn't a custom tooltip this is changing the vanity slot behavior
So there must be a line of code in the game responsible for the vanity slot tooltip change
like im guessing if red hasn't done it himself, cause it's such a small trivial thing, then it probably isn't as simple as it seems
The suggestion is really specific so that may be the reason too
you can try, obviously, all im saying is, if a dev comes in and says no
dont be suprised
antisocial does it
that's all i know
Not antisocial
ik you don't want antisocial
That makes vanity slots act like normal slots
Because the vanity slots are completely replaced by normal slots, not reworked
no
Yes
the slots are the same, just they actually run UpdateEquip()
and are configured to show tooltips
Well if the show tooltip configuration could be made so that it only applies to pure vanity items
That would be the entire suggestion implemented
I used elysian tracers vs Yharon recently
And liked it
Do I need a medical check
Is there something wrong with me
Sorry, saw the sugg n had 2
i tend to use seraph tracers for scal because the others are too fast
But yeah shouldn't have hover
Yes (Bc Elysian Tracers are objectively bad as their base speed are slower than Silva Wings)

It genuinely felt good to dodge utilizing platforms though
And the speed difference felt negligible in the bigger picture of dodging the boss
On the topic of Elysian Tracers, funny how everything labeled as "Elysian" is obtained from a different source
Lol
I mean, they are all from providence themed items
I mean tracers seems to be the only odd one out
But obtaining them yeah
The Wings and Aegis are from Providence, the Tracers are after the Devourer, and the Arrows are from Unholy Essence
Yeah, all but the tracers are from profaned sources
And tracers are crafted from profaned items
I don't really see any issues with theming or consistency
I mean, that fits providence as she is a goddess who resides in the hallow, a "paradise"
I guess even if there was a problem with the name, there wouldn't be a much better name
i mean dog stuff is called cosmic
and dog isnt exactly from space
just another dimension
the descriptors arent exact but it captures the essence
providence is a goddess
See
My platforms are 80 blocks apart when I fight Yharon
And my entire playstyle revolves around being close to him
So I kinda need the flight time
Yes mine are 80-100 blocks apart as well
A full vertical flight only gets past like 2 layers
But that's enough + just hook
And when he dashes
Just running on platform and ramming left and right felt so nice
To add to the debuffs, death mode makes them all do 50% more damage, making them even more brutal dps wise
Ig so but considering how much time I need to be in between them at times it's better for me to have the flight time
Fair
I just need my flight time for Exos
Not Exos
Yharon
Me dum
Fair enough
I am indeed also still biased towards wings
Just not my playstyle and generally not recommended since Yharon is a more vertical fight afterall
I mean
I am biased towards wings but the numbers don't lie for tracers dogshit stats
Very true 
Also I still use celestial so it's not like I don't use them period
Acid venom doing 45 damage a second in death mode is kinda ridiculous
according to the wiki its 30 dps in all modes
Is acid venom exempt from the death mode changes to debuffs?
no it is just all
So I would assume it also applies to acid venom
aka every single thing is 50% more
Which is insanity
yes
though for the most part only 1 boss inflict it which iirc is plantera (?) and spiders
It makes a single acid cloud from AS do 368 damage.
oh AS too, so thats why it hurt so much
The toxic cloud only does 176 contact damage
The rest of that is all in the debuffs
4 seconds of acid venom and poisoned
That's more so specifically acid venom being overtuned (why does it do 30 damage a second base what) but still
after such a bad few weeks im glad to see voting with new and interestign suggs
I wish these had a purpose lol. maybe reducing GS dash or something. I doubt anyone actually makes them
they're calval
wait fr?
yes
dam. So theres not even a god slayer wing set LOL
yeah, Main Cal has been waiting on a sprite for godslayer wings for like years
iirc
2 years since ozz posted in assets-needed
still no accepted wings
ive only seen i think 2 submissions for em
yharon resprite moment
animation hell
there was literally 2 dozen when he posted they were all just rejected
standards be like 👍
yeah i mean i did just join calval about 3 months ago so
oh yeah calart fuck i mixed up the names
lol
and i just checked it was in november of last year when i joined so a touch over 3 months 💀
last submitted god slayer wings was december 2022
@hollow shell spam
Uh
Oooh
Thought he actually pinged everyone somehow
I just have notis on for posting
lmao
thanks
Someone else gave em the mute but I deleted the rest
thanks as always rover
mm
And I was like "aw hell naw man 😭"
huh
so this latest suggestion amuses me
nice
What are people's thoughts on the point NPC's sell weapons?, namely arms dealer and wizard. For reference, arms dealer and wizard sell all post plantera dungeon weapons after killing golem. It makes sense to not make them immediately purchasable post plantera, or you would have no reason to go to the dungeon, but it just feels so weird having them post golem. If the weapons are good enough to be used then you will want them for all the bosses between plantera and golem, so you still need to farm if you want to use them. The only use is because the drops are materials for post golem things, which at that point you are best off skipping the dungeon, using other weapons, and then just buying the drops for crafting post golem.
Maybe I am overthinking this, but it just feels like buying them post golem is weird and incentivizes you to just skip getting them when they are relevant
Your arguments against it are quite literally the intended reasons for it existing
They're provided for crafting purposes
yeah the only reason they're in there at all is to ease crafting requirements
ex; dealer selling boomstick post-QB
just seems weird to do that with some things but not others, idk
Indeed
Coin gun being well known
It's kind of a iffy thing to fix
ive been pushing for pirate to sell pirate invasion drops for forever
i think THAT's the bigger problem
I am uhhh not a fan of a lot of the things Calamity puts in shops
Because on the other hand, you could raise the droprates instead but then get flooded with drops
Potion shops

Alright, I won't bother to make a suggestion as it feels like it would require a in depth analysis or rework of NPC shops in general, thanks for the feedback
If money actually meant something then maybe my opinyot would be different
Simply tie the drops to max happiness or something
Or if all of them could only be purchased with a new more valuable currency
Defender Medals
(thorium tracker
imksushi tokens)

Was going to make a suggestion to make happy grenades always available as calamity makes all other NPC's sell the weapon they drop on death
then I found out happy grenades deal half a normal grenades damage

i guess they're cool for aesthetics???
would be neat if they had like
halved use time or something
less damage but you can throw em faster
I was gonna say make them inflict party but party is not a debuff
@heady root your suggestion has no reasoning
Also for hovering vortex booster, nebula mantle and Celestial starboard exist for Providence so please address them in the suggestion
ok, so please don't judge me for this next suggestion, but I am cooking.
(Obligatory mention that I would far prefer that non-boot wings get the hover to reduce the boot wing supremacy)
(Same, boot wings already have massive opportunity cost benefits cuz they free an accessory slot and allow faster horizontal movement while grounded)
I disagree with this suggestion because I like that Terraria has some stuff that's purely aesthetic and fun, with no meta or gameplay benefit
Yea confetti is meant to be cosmetic
But as a sugg itself, it is fine.
If they got a debuff it would be idk the enemy is covered in confetti and thats it
agreed
idk, it could be something like Party debuff, "the enemy is excited", increases enemy movement speed, reduces contact damage. It was just an idea I had while looking through debuff related items, I'm not super dedicated to the idea, and might remove it if I feel compelled/convinced otherwise
party girl is an easy source of bacon
and I think debuff builds are fun and unique, with calamity providing support to them via alochols and new debuff mechanics
Party bullets are very competent pre-hm too
Joy Buzzer Electricity debuff...,.,.,...
worst case scenario it's another mid suggestion to make the better ones win 
isnt this missing the point of confetti
It should do the fortnite thing





