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#suggestions-discussion
hollow ridge
blazing kettle
git that mibdset i was talking about yesterday
post every idea you want to implement in the game and act live a dev in the process
crude geode
This reminds me of the time I posted about ravager like six times and annoyed the devs enough to placate me with promises of moving him
fervent orbit
This reminds me of the time I posted about ravager like six times and annoyed th...
did they move him
crude geode
They say they will
blazing kettle
jesus fucking christ why are my pojemon so dumb
blazing kettle
using blizzard when spike cannon is right there
fervent orbit
wat
blazing kettle
playing pokemon mystery dungeon
fervent orbit
how can ur pokemon be dumb
arent you contro
ohhh
wait r u not picking the moves urself????
novel belfry
oyeah they were going to do it with that Iban resprite
blazing kettle
you can just press A to have an ai pick moves automatically
fervent orbit
đź’€
novel belfry
but yknow
blazing kettle
vecause some dungeons are LONG and sometiens you get bored
fervent orbit
people actually play mystery dungeon like that???
unreal saffron
Y has muh post been flagged
novel belfry
im gonna be honest, i feel incredibly salty for iban taking away all of his concepts cause it included those contest concepts
random pendant
I know that specific item suggestions are a no-no for mod suggestions, but what if most of the legwork (spriting, animating, balancing, and/or coding) was already done
fervent orbit
no
glass arch
no
random pendant
Good to know
glass arch
thats an even bigger no lmao
fervent orbit
if u can do it urself just make a mod
blazing kettle
people actually play mystery dungeon like that???
i dont do it all the time, i just do it when im trudging through some boring floors on a long abd easy dugneon like stormy sea
unreal saffron
Ah ok
fervent orbit
also that remove uelibloom mod idea i had was awesome
gotta ask doze how to do some shit
cosmic karma
uelibloom should be much more common
crude geode
uelibloom shouldn't exist
cosmic karma
i had a world where there was like 5 veins total (though that may have been a bug)
crude geode
sounds like one
glass arch
ueliblooms spawn rate was like doubled in a recent update
crude geode
uelibloom is like. the 4th jungle armor set that isn't actually called a jungle armor set
glass arch
rework Eventually™️
crude geode
more if you count bee and the two plague sets but I wouldn't count the later of those
and beetle
and turtle
cosmic karma
uelibloom is like. the 4th jungle armor set that isn't actually called a jungle ...
jungle, bee, chlorophyte, turtle, beetle, tarragon
frosty trellis
Oh shit just did backreading and yeah I can see why chat is happy for once with all the based suggestions passing
glass arch
the jungle bloat is real
crude geode
not passing
cosmic karma
and also spectre and shroomite if you count that
crude geode
implemented
crude geode
spectre and shroomite are a bit more their own biomes
dungeon and mushroom respectively
so they kinda have more to stand on
glass arch
what is mushroon but dark blue jungle
cosmic karma
spectre and shroomite are a bit more their own biomes
however chlorophyte
novel belfry
it has good generation
cosmic karma
me when uhh
crude geode
what is mushroon but dark blue jungle
less bloated
cosmic karma
4 different armor sets stem from chlorophyte
grave zincBOT
@serene tendon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Give Lunatic Cultist's sprite a forcefield similar to Scal's]
It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
distant gyro
this is already done silly bean
serene tendon
Yeah, I thought it had been
wide river
It technically will be available in the next update
serene tendon
true
wide river
No one ever said it had to be a part of the update
grave zincBOT
@coarse tartan - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Rework Aeralite generation]
It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
distant gyro
x2
wide river
A lot of people are going to be confused as to why they got pinged
grave zincBOT
@native nebula - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[** While the Old One's Army event is active, disable the Minion Damage Reduction when holding non-summoner weapons on Old One's Army Sentries .**]
It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
distant gyro
x3
glass arch
lao
wide river
The implementation streak increases
north oracle
wide river
The Murasama tooltip one?
glass arch
im guessing so
fervent orbit
i love going thru the reactions on my suggestion and seeing which people i know of voted on it
north oracle
Already have đź‘Ť
distant gyro
implementation rate is now ~45%
fervent orbit
Already have đź‘Ť
I know. No need to tell me.
north oracle
fervent orbit
wat i do know is that altix hasnt voted on it
glass arch
do you know who ELSE-
distant gyro
im not rigging voting
fervent orbit
im not rigging voting
wait r devs not meant to vote on suggs?
wide river
Suggestion: stop talking about who's starred your suggestion
It's part of one of the pins
fervent orbit
oh ok
unreal saffron
Quick question: am i the resident “guy who wont shut tf up” for this channel. I have made so many arguments lol
glass arch
depends on situation
glass arch
true
unreal saffron
Yeah, but my tangent lasted, like, 6 hours
distant gyro
people around here don't shut up in general
wide river
Anything that is suggesting to make the simplest changes ever will instantly be the best suggestion
It's a secret code of #suggestions-discussion
north oracle
Flipping icicle arrows sprite
wide river
Exactly
fervent orbit
Anything that is suggesting to make the simplest changes ever will instantly be ...
or its related to hote
distant gyro
some day a suggestion will top icicle arrow flip
north oracle
Unless it’s that suggestion about making them not waifus
glass arch
or its that suggestion to add more things to it because god forbid 5 elementals is enough
fervent orbit
no it was to rework hote and its components
distant gyro
only a mere 400 stars required to top
north oracle
Wait 400? Jesus
distant gyro
currently sitting at 406
glass arch
where is this suggestion i need to vote for it even though its already passed
distant gyro
look up icicle arrow in voting
north oracle
Wow, 400 votes
fervent orbit
no
keen zodiac
look up icicle arrow in voting
doesn't work
fervent orbit
u just blind af then
north oracle
Worked for me
hollow ridge
doesn't work
keen zodiac
thank
hollow ridge
đź‘Ť
fervent orbit
someones cooking
round ravine
drowsy plank
@thorny cloud #suggestions-discussion message
prolly dont need to pass the exact same thing twice
drowsy plank
understandable
it's helpful to check the disc. bot's post with a quick search before posting just to make sure u aren't duping
thorny cloud
good point, I will remember that for the future
drowsy plank
ye
thorny cloud
Funny enough, some of my ideas for said elemental perks were quite similar
Icy shield from Anahita was basically the exact same, lol
half imp
currently sitting at 406
w h a t
crude geode
413 now
glass arch
what can i say except people really like that suggestion
wide river
Why are people still starring that suggestion
glass arch
because its a classic
wide river
Apparently
hollow shell
What's wrong with Scrib's suggestion
Was it edited extensively after the exclamation?
hollow shell
- First line is not necessarily chaining suggestions, there's no rule against mentioning co-authorship currently (might've been an edit?)
- The pre-boss thing is meant not to talk about how it's a pre-boss weapon, it's meant to convey how the weapon is hyped up throughout the game because you can see and obtain it in its inactive state as early as that (which I see someone else also brought up)
- Mura got brought up in the balance thread which is good, thank you xpcqe
- I'm not sure what Shade is talking about with the endgame thing? The sugg talks about using it against SCal and Exos, which are the bosses that Mura is on-tier for, as it gets unlocked after Yharon
- and iunno the reasoning seems pretty reasonable to me. Maybe a bit too wordy/fluffy, but I prefer that over not enough.
- The two suggs we got recently about Murasama were about tooltip clarity and something purely aesthetic. The aesthetic (& sfx) additions would make the wep feel cooler to use, but that has nothing to do with its actual functionality or inherent conceptual unviability against bosses like Exo Twins and SCal Brothers who are fixated outside of Mura's range.
cobalt pewter
god whenever a mura rework gets suggested I kept thinking about my old sugg that adds a sheathing launch to mura
actually incredible
grim tusk
If we go by aesthetic, we got two suggs already as you said.
Viability would fall under balance
A lot of the sugg was just ranting
For endgame I meant BR where its utterly outclassed by Earth and Elemental Excalibur
cobalt pewter
Mura is not for BR though?
glass arch
complaining about it being unviable on twins is just like what do you want the devs to do make it even bigger
cobalt pewter
theoretically it shouldn't be
grim tusk
edit did address the pre-boss but then post-Yharon aspect
glass arch
twins are hard to hit for almost everything
cobalt pewter
complaining about it being unviable on twins is just like what do you want the d...
make it stop time whenever you swing 
grim tusk
the pre-edit version was horrid, no offense
but currently its still invalid due to balance and us just gotten an aesthetics sugg.
glass arch
as for saying you need to go into the projectile source to deal damage... what true melee doesnt have you go towards the boss
swift wharf
there's so much better reasoning for reworking murasama
glass arch
thats like the core mechanic of true melee
cobalt pewter
primal urge to not misspell the weapon into muramasa
swift wharf
marsupial
cobalt pewter
so true
grim tusk
also unlike older Cal where every weapon had to be viable for everything, now thats no longer the case as well. Brothers also can be reached with Murasama with handful of techniques, Exo twins are indeed very tricky but Murasama compensates for its performance against Ares and Thanathos
heck look at Dragon Rage which just nukes hearts and Thanathos, with some skill seekers
and it has less range which makes it practically unusable for a large part of Exos
swift wharf
literally never happening
glass arch
"the weapon currently makes you dive head first into the projectile source in order to deal even the slightest bit of damage" no offense but have you ever wondered what true melee's main drawback is
grim tusk
that too
cobalt pewter
literally never happening
shut up let me dream
grim tusk
but that would have just gotten it downvotes in dev and not an exclam
errant bobcat
True melee is meant to be ridiculously good damage or utility, but only if you can actually reach the target
That’s the point of the subclass
blazing kettle
yet anothwr deleted sugg i wish to know what it was
glass arch
mura is the least offensive true melee weapon because with its range its practically a projectile melee weapon
glass arch
yet anothwr deleted sugg i wish to know what it was
rework uelibloom sugg
swift wharf
two days without a decent sugg
glass arch
which is coming
blazing kettle
rework uelibloom sugg
again??
glass arch
ye
grim tusk
if the Murasama sugg is reposted next week I can see it passing
glass arch
what the fuck
cobalt pewter
lao
glass arch
there is no way youd be able to fit that in one world
cobalt pewter
@hollow shell
glass arch
at least not without having it being the entire goddamn world
drowsy plank
lmao what did it say i dont see it
glass arch
at least not without having it being the entire goddamn world
vanilla on its own has over 5k items
glass arch
lmao what did it say i dont see it
add a museum that has every item in vanilla and calamity
drowsy plank
grim tusk
glass arch
vanilla *on its own* has over 5k items
hell its closer to 5.5k
wide river
Wasn't there a copypasta like that suggestion
glass arch
how many items does cal have atm?
worldly basalt
add a museum that has every item in vanilla and calamity
isnt that just builder's workshop
wide river
"I need to be able to collect every single item in a playthrough or I will die" or something like that
glass arch
even if it could fit in one world that would be fucking horrible for any sort of balance
wide river
how many items does cal have atm?
I have no idea and it's too hard to count them either in game or on the wiki
Probably in the thousands
glass arch
according to the forum post 1880+
worldly basalt
wiki says there's 2,588 pages but that includes enemies and other stuff too
glass arch
and considering the post also says 5 different difficulty modes its HEAVILY outdated
glass arch
7 actually
you forgot plain ol master
and i dont blame you for it i wanna forget about it too
bright crag
Tru
wide river
master is a difficulty that exists
bright crag
The voices LIED to me
bright crag
the
https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/797075236...
We should make Murasama right-click summon a sword-gun Murasama that shoots magic bullets which stealth strike on crits
glass arch
preposterous, the voices NEVER lie
blazing kettle
so many bad suggs that keep getting deleted today
wide river
As they should be
hollow shell
complaining about it being unviable on twins is just like what do you want the d...
That's why we have a suggestion-level suggestion asking for a rework
Not something that can be (gracefully) handled with just balancing
hollow shell
the pre-edit version was horrid, no offense
Alright
bright crag
Yeah, which is fair and decent suggestion material
(Though I feel like that's on the boss, not the weapon, in a mod where true melee is a thing)
glass arch
asking for a rework isnt a bad thing
they just could have done it so much better
hollow shell
Would you like to try
considering Shade seems confident in this one being invalid even post-edit
glass arch
no i dont have a great concept
i would suggest to make the bosses a bit more true melee friendly instead of reworking mura
swift wharf
I mean murasama could be reworked because it's functionality is outdated
hollow shell
also unlike older Cal where every weapon had to be viable for everything, now th...
Alright yeah I understand that
I think it's good that you can/should use different weapons for different purposes even within the same fight
That's one of the things that single-weapon "boss kill time" testing really detracts from
bright crag
*cough* Masamune *cough*
ornate kestrel
preposterous, the voices NEVER lie
The voices know all and are omnipotent
drowsy plank
fr the singular "problem" with mura could just be fixed by giving twins the same tmelee flag that cal bros have
no rework necessary
and at that point there would be no excuse to give it one
bc what problem would you even be fixing?
if this is even worth considering a problem lmao
errant bobcat
honestly it would be interesting to see bosses become more aggressive/come closer if you are holding a true melee weapon
drowsy plank
several already do! it's really not that much of a problem unless you're like exactly callie clone and love staying a set distance away
wide river
Reworking it to be less mgr related would be even better tbh
I'm pretty sure that if all you did was recolor and rename Murasama people wouldn't see it as a reference anymore
drowsy plank
blue...,.,.
wide river
I was thinking grey, but blue is also an option
drowsy plank
muramasa is blue henceforth murasama should also be blue 
grim tusk
considering Shade seems confident in this one being invalid even post-edit
One of the main issue is complaining about viability compared to other weapons (and not consistency, although True melee weapons are inconsistent by nature), which goes on #1042197406776827914. The first paragraph of the suggestion is the issue, the other 2 are now very good post-edit.
If it got less compared to other weapons, and instead did something more akin to the other 2 paragraphs argued and not other weapons as well as less on visuals (of which we literally got a sugg) I could see the exclam being gone
drowsy plank
feel like this might be relevant to @unreal saffron
frosty trellis
and it has less range which makes it practically unusable for a large part of Ex...
(Actually with bobbit hook and Drew's it's very reasonable to just use it on Ares)
(I've done it before and bobbit launching makes it so actually decent DPS on Ares)
frosty trellis
(And ofc with twins Void Sash is your best friend if you want to hit them since ethe dash is long enough to elongate your openings after Artemis dash)
half imp
or high ruler :)
halcyon zealot
One of the main issue is complaining about viability compared to other weapons (...
Unrelated, but Shade that last sentence bends my brain
grim tusk
Why is that so?
halcyon zealot
"If it got less compared to other weapons like the other 2 paragraphs and not other weapons"
I do not comprehend what it's saying, maybe I am missing context
it reads/flows goofy
maybe it's 2 sentences in one
maybe it just says the same thing twice and I'm overthinking
o shit
homework due in 25 min
grim tusk
Is it more clear now?
wide river
I can understand it better now
halcyon zealot
Is it more clear now?
also, nice nickname good sir
narrow mantle
think of it like this: scal arenas will have symmetry and make sense
unborn idol
Wong
ashen warren
cus the 2 mods are too big
fair, then i guess adding official to name of real mod would be better?
also calamity mod music isnt that big so adding like 50 megabytes wouldn't be a big issue
ashen warren
Cal Music is 200mb at best
oh well thas an L
ripe owl
Merging Calamity with Music will be like combining two unstable nuclear reactors together
ashen warren
thats the usage from my last load
ashen warren
Merging Calamity with Music will be like combining two unstable nuclear reactors...
fair, il edit it out to just be adding official to calam music
ripe owl
đź‘Ť
ripe owl
Maybe you should've encased the "official" part
But whatever, if devs will get it then fine
ashen warren
I personally don't agree with this, because no one will look at Infernum Mod Music and go, "Hmm, this is very official, this is to do with Calamity and not some other related mod called 'Infernum' I must download it!"
ashen warren
I personally don't agree with this, because no one will look at *Infernum* Mod M...
fair, but infernum music was just an example
theres so many music mods that it can create confusion
crude geode
I personally don't agree with this, because no one will look at *Infernum* Mod M...
You say that, but knowing the amount of suggs related to infernum in here, it’s not out of the realm of possibility
unreal saffron
@ashen warren if i were u, i would reword it. Say something like, “Add official to the name of the music mod”.
ripe owl
@karmic stone hi could you please give a man in the #suggestions-posting an âť— "award"?
🥺
eternal escarp
*remove
dense ferry
Holy shit Blanana
north oracle
I see no issues with this suggestion whatsoever
thin hill
april the first moment
random talon
half imp
@random talon the passive is based on the primary
Two of them are Cancer and two are Capricorn
half imp
Cancer vs Capricorn is shown in the sprite of the sword
swift wharf
lmao
half imp
karmic stone
@pseudo hill don't do that
drowsy plank
@vernal moat this sounds more like a #1042197406776827914 thing but also... why??
vernal moat
<@930992544643444737> this sounds more like a <#1042197406776827914> thing but a...
i didn't know that thread existed...
how was i anyways
drowsy plank
like wow post-Cultist drops are stronger than post-Golem... that is. the point
cobalt pewter
how was i anyways
pins
vernal moat
like wow post-Cultist drops are stronger than post-Golem... that is. the point
obviously they should be, but not for post golem bosses
drowsy plank
cultist being too easy isn't a reason either, he just got a +80% HP buff
in the upcoming update i mean
vernal moat
i mean the bosses that are sandwiched between golem and cultist
vernal moat
cultist being too easy isn't a reason either, he just got a +80% HP buff
oh
well then I see my suggestion was pointless
drowsy plank
it's fine
i mean yes it is pointless but dont feel bad
you prolly didnt know all this stuff
regardless if weapons are too strong or bosses are too weak, calamity is just going to adjust the weapons and bosses for where they actually belong in progression, because all this would do is confuse people
random pasture
I also disagree with Duke being in that list, most of his drops are pretty strong
drowsy plank
Briny Baron only recently finally got nerfed and that thing used to be 
small timber
now it is quite shit
but yeah they probably can just buff left click instead rather than un-nerf (partially) right click
swift wharf
hardmode progression moment
wide river
How has this one not been exclaimed yet
#suggestions-posting message
undone cedar
wide river
This new one is radiating SIS energy
undone cedar
The the the zero reasoning
wide river
It is certainly a suggestion of all time
drowsy plank
@cloud panther please read the rules in the pins
id argue this is SIS because you have zero reasoning for this
cloud panther
<@833383649596145706> please read the rules in the pins
i was short on time and forgot to elaborate
on why
drowsy plank
how can you be short on time
if you dont have reasoning yet just dont post it until you do
random pasture
The sword you can make when slime god dies
wide river
Sword that can be crafted from Purified Gel
random pasture
Its pretty not great
ripe owl
Fsr I was thinking of King Slime
random pasture
Hey it is original
eternal escarp
but its a wave!!! its so unique!!!!!!!!
drowsy plank
if u mean design wise; yeah it sucks
but rn that thing is under KT on WoF and is arguably hardmode viable lmao
wide river
It goes through walls
People that say "The projectile goes through walls" when I enter their house through their walls
drowsy plank
me when flask of fire + slimed + melee weapon privledge
ripe owl
cloud panther
i gave an explanation
drowsy plank
eternal escarp
i see multiple issues
eternal escarp
A) makes sense isnt a reason
B) theres no material from QS you can upgrade the sword with anyways
wide river
It's certainly an explanation, that's for sure
ripe owl
So true...
eternal escarp
ark isnt a statigel weapon
drowsy plank
A) makes sense isnt a reason
B) theres no material from QS you can *upgrade* the...
sparkle slime balloons. technically
eternal escarp
perish
swift wharf
it uses statigel
wide river
A) makes sense isnt a reason
B) theres no material from QS you can *upgrade* the...
Let's just make a new material that only drops from Queen Slime for the sole purpose of adding this weapon
swift wharf
🤫
ripe owl
Let's just make a new material that only drops from Queen Slime for the sole pur...
Good ol' material overbloat
My favorite
eternal escarp
one gearset at a time
ripe owl
swift wharf
i love when I
kill boss and make a [material] broadsword that shoots [a projectile]
! !! !
eternal escarp
i hate boss materials
drowsy plank
you'd arguably have an easier time saying queen slime doesnt drop weapons for every class and since she's slime god 2 she could drop thematically upgraded versions of slime god drops but
please dont
wide river
i hate boss materials
That's why we are trying to get rid of Rotten Matter, Blood Samples, and Living Shards
swift wharf
stop sticking to a theme
go crazy go stupi
eternal escarp
no living shards are based
just make them not a boss drop
wide river
I can see that working
swift wharf
tbf wulfrum does stick to a theme and DOES go crazy and stupid but i am biased against lame items
drowsy plank
iban moment
swift wharf
iban W
wide river
I can see that working
Just so long as it's not more stuff locked behind Plantera
ripe owl
tbf wulfrum does stick to a theme and DOES go crazy and stupid but i am biased a...
Aren't we all
drowsy plank
look there is a way to make this suggestion actually work (even if i hate it) so im gonna tell him to do that
swift wharf
i mean the suggestion is certainly fine but reasoning
drowsy plank
@cloud panther if you want to argue for a geltic blade upgrade it'd be a lot easier to just ask for queen slime to drop weapons for every class, since she only drops weapons for summoner right now, and since she's an upgrade to slime god, it'd make sense for her other class drops to be spiritually upgraded versions of slime god drops
small timber
so yeah this should just be exclaimed for lack of reasoning
at that point my as well be "make queen slime drop a weapon similar to geltic blade but stronger"
wide river
obviously none
Literally none
ripe owl
Guys guys guys the Perennial to Desert finally might get into the dev server
wide river
Unless you count Blade Staff to be an upgrade of the Corroslime and Crimslime staves
drowsy plank
Real
wide river
Which no one should do ever
drowsy plank
but it IS funny
to think that
regardless this sugg is grasping at straws but at least my logic is marginally less terrible
drowsy plank
very funny
ripe owl
Truly
wide river
My recent one is the only valid one in so long
drowsy plank
regardless this dude made one edit and then refused to make another gotta love ding dong ditching
wonder how long it'll be til someone comes and flags it
ripe owl
My recent one is the only valid one in so long
And dragonfly's
wide river
Oh ye, I had glossed over that one
wide river
wonder how long it'll be til someone comes and flags it
I give it five minutes
golden sonnet
arguable since pogo exists preboss
undone cedar
stop sticking to a theme
go crazy go stupi
FACTS
undone cedar
Me absolutely destroying every single cookie cutter item set in existence i am filled with Wrath
wide river
i hate sets just make cool weapons instead
Makes me wish that we didn't have materials that craft stuff for every class at all stages of the game
In particular, the multiclass helms
swift wharf
GOOD chat
wide river
Death to Hydrothermic and Daedalus armor when
random pasture
Tbf it makes complete sense time wise for generic armor sets to exist.
wide river
I get that it's easier for generic armors to be a thing over unique armor, but when there's like 10 of them copypasted throughout the game it gets to be a bit annoying
random pasture
True
serene tendon
@cloud panther The last thing we need in Calamity (or Terraria in general) is more worm melters
grim tusk
I am wondering if its an âť—
serene tendon
SIS, I think so
grim tusk
Cuz the reasoning is literally “why not”
serene tendon
and faulty reasoning
wide river
Considering it requests an upgrade to a specific weapon from a specific boss, I think it's definitely âť— worthy
small timber
and yeah it also kind of just request a specific upgrade from a specific boss with absolutely 0 precedent (no slime god items have had upgrade on queen slime before)
blazing kettle
arent these vanilla items???
swift wharf
good suggestion
drowsy plank
yes they are vanilla items but also i agree with this person why the fuck are those hardmode locked lmfao
wide river
yes they are vanilla items but also i agree with this person why the fuck are th...
Here's why
Every single one of them requires a hardmode item to make
wide river
Considering none of these are particularly "game-breaking" it definitely seems fine to suggest
golden sonnet
Honey sensors pre-Hm would trivialize every boss
drowsy plank
🤯
wide river
...I'm sorry, what??
Post-Providence is the first time you can get a honey source for crafting?
wide river
Honey sensors pre-Hm would trivialize every boss
Here's the thing
Cogs and Magic Droppers
drowsy plank
we literally have an item called honey dispenser and it doesn't dispense honey 
wide river
The time sensors aren't a problem to move, but the rest require you to kill a mech anyway so it doesn't matter that much to move its crafting station
random pasture
drowsy plank
it cant hurt if you want to craft them before mining tho and make it more consistent with the ones we did change
wide river
In particular: Cogs are from the Steampunker and the Soul of Sight is from the Twins
glass arch
Honey sensors pre-Hm would trivialize every boss
arent they still hardmode locked because of the dropper
wide river
And the Cogs
glass arch
yeah cogs too
half imp
player sensors too op
wide river
I'm unsure about a suggestion idea that I had.
I wanted to suggest another ranged weapon like the Eventide and Telluric Glare, but I don't know if I can suggest it without it being considered a SIS
drowsy plank
I'm unsure about a suggestion idea that I had.
I wanted to suggest another range...
Well, what about it makes you wish there was another one?
Also I think Void Chest's sprite might be displaced
wide river
Well, what about it makes you wish there was another one?
They have a more unique method of firing as compared to normal bows, in that they fire out beams rather than arrows
drowsy plank
Well, I mean, we got Ultima
wide river
I refuse to acknowledge the existence of that thing
It's so bad
But I suppose it's something that exists, too. Just not the beams that I was thinking of.
wide river
It doesn't?
blazing kettle
this is gettibg fixed in the future with a proper abyss shrine
lapis gyro
It doesn't?
the dark grey and the green definitely make it look plague themed
glass arch
what green
lapis gyro
i supposed the other ones are more green than black but still
tf you talking about what green
wide river
You're telling me that you think these have the same design pattern
glass arch
theres like 10 pixels of green on there
dense ferry
Excuse me?
glass arch
i can go count exactly how many green pixels there are on ultima
lapis gyro
christ i get it
blazing kettle
theres like 10 pixels of green on there
erm actually its 11
glass arch
a total of 14 green pixels
blazing kettle
wheres the other 3?
worldly basalt
they're on the back
wide river
Space, I guess
drowsy plank
lapis gyro
the metal does seem to have green undertones though unless im going nuts
drowsy plank
ugh
glass arch
wheres the other 3?
theres some in the star at the bottom, a few at the front, and most in the string
drowsy plank
i love discord image formatting!!!
blazing kettle
i only counted 13
wide river
i love discord image formatting!!!
That's why I just stitch the images together at this point
drowsy plank
fair
worldly basalt
starmada is plague themed confirmed
glass arch
i only counted 13
did ya count the one in the line at the front
blazing kettle
theres 2 there and i still only coubted 13
glass arch
it with all the green pixels turned blue
blazing kettle
oh thats yellow not green
glass arch
which one
lapis gyro
so you were missing two?
drowsy plank
they really dont seem to have any more themeing to plague than they do to other random Space™️ shit on their tier
glass arch
next to just the 1 dot
is it the line of yellow and white because that one is the same color as about 4 other pixels
blazing kettle
they look like random pieces of exo mechs turned into weapons
drowsy plank
if starmada and ultima are plague themed than so is prismatic armor
lmao true
but fr they use
0 plague items
lapis gyro
i was talking about the bow specifically, and i changed my mind
drowsy plank
they're not plague themed no matter how much green you added
lapis gyro
you dont have to keep convincing me
wide river
It's The Anomaly's Nanogun
blazing kettle
again, they look like you took off a random piece of exo mech for the items
wide river
I'm unsure about a suggestion idea that I had.
I wanted to suggest another range...
Anyway, back to this.
Now that I think of it, where would one even go?
Adding one after DoG seems more like a "Please add a weapon like this for every tier", but adding one before Empress doesn't seem that great either
half imp
ultima looks vaguely like an exos drop
wide river
It does!
random pasture
It's a gun
wide river
I think if it moves farther along, it completely obscures the player
wide river
Pretty much
wide river
I don't think that having a weapon completely obstruct the player's vision of where they are is a good idea
half imp
you can see where you are
it's the center of your screen
and it's where the big bow is
hollow shell
Hitboxes tho
wide river
Is this a good suggestion or is it too SIS-y
Add more ranged weapons similar to the Eventide and Telluric Glare
The Eventide and Telluric Glare have a more unique method of firing compared to normal bows, in that they fire out beams of light rather than arrows. There's also the Ultima, although that is a dedicated item, and it doesn't have the same kind of attack pattern as the two aforementioned weapons. Adding more of these unique forms of attacking would allow for the Ranger class to be more interesting overall, as well as making Ranger less boring than "Sniper Rifle 2.0" and "Bullet Hose".
I think I need a bit more reasoning
blazing kettle
it seems okqy t me, but you already have 2 suggs up on posting
hollow shell
And there's also
Alluvion and Heavenly Gale, which shoot out beams too
their own kinda beams
wide river
it seems okqy t me, but you already have 2 suggs up on posting
No I don't
wide river
And there's also
Alluvion and Heavenly Gale, which shoot out beams too
My major gripe with the "subclass" is that every single one that Calamity adds is post-Providence
blazing kettle
screw lasers, give me more sharks and bees to throw
wide river
I'd like some either before Empress, or at Sentinel-tier, if at all possible. However, I can't add those tiers to the suggestion because that'd make it too specific
...Maybe for that last point, I could suggest that The Storm gets reworked instead.
I think I'll do that, considering The Storm is just a rapid-fire Daedalus Stormbow clone at the moment
drowsy plank
oh thats cognitive
lol lmao
wide river
Hmm. Have there been any plans on adding a new Miracle Matter melee weapon?
I assume not, but I just thought I'd ask.
crude geode
Why
wide river
It doesn't matter that much. I was just thinking of suggesting to add one, but I looked and Exos give access to three separate melee weapons, so it doesn't need to happen.
errant inlet
Am i the only one that things that the soaring insignia should get a rework?
The devs saw "infinite flights" and went "oh we can't have that so we'll make it a hardmode harpy ring"
grim tusk
And then it was still broken as hell due to having a velocity multiplier and built in frog leg
And still has em but not as good
wide river
It's still really good, I think
north oracle
definitely, still a super good movement accessory
errant inlet
Well that didn't stir up anything
Hmm
Ok not a serious suggestion but
I think it'd be funny if a plaguebringer Goliath turned into a queen bee upon death
drowsy plank
insignia is Boss Rush viable
just an absolutely wacky accessory
also i have
no idea what that's even supposed to mean
like the gores resemble queen bee or something??
north oracle
it made more sense as infinite flight, but that was obviously super broken
drowsy plank
"made more sense" lmao how
wide river
Anything that has percentage scaling can either be absurdly good or absolutely horrendous
north oracle
it's weird having a random really good mobility item placed in late hardmode with no connection
vanilla's version had it's own distinct purpose, even if it was really really strong
drowsy plank
with no connection?? empress is a flying fairy so she gives you a blessing that imbues your flight
why did she drop an infinite flight accessory in vanilla?
north oracle
because she's a flying fairy
drowsy plank
frankly cal severly lacks good pure mobility accessories after like early hardmode
exactly
so it makes as much sesne
lol
grim tusk
Anything that has percentage scaling can either be absurdly good or absolutely h...
1.5 stealth moment
Sheath stacking
north oracle
yeh true lmao
drowsy plank
like you get grand jelly and then... the next big upgrade is insignia lmao
north oracle
i just like infinite flight more than movement buffs
grim tusk
Sheath stacking
Hmm yes, Silencing Sheath is stronger than DSA
wide river
How has Rotten Dogtooth survived for this long without being purged
drowsy plank
yeah we have infinite flight it's called mounts lol
grim tusk
yeah we have infinite flight it's called mounts lol
12504
errant inlet
like the gores resemble queen bee or something??
Canonically, the Plaguebringer Goliath is a Queen Bee that got eaten away at by the plague nanovirus (the bestiary states so). So in the end, plaguebringer is just a green QB on stereoids
north oracle
i dislike mounts for absolutely no reason
wide river
SOON
Just a 10% boost to stealth strike damage as well as giving a debuff that makes the enemy take even more damage isn't broken at all
drowsy plank
Canonically, the Plaguebringer Goliath is a Queen Bee that got eaten away at by ...
nooooooo... that's old lore. she's a explicit cyborg that draedon himself makes and then also happens to imbue with the plague.
drowsy plank
i mean she is still a queen bee but
not a "queen bee on stereoids"
she's mauled beyond recognition at this point
glass arch
even if it was still the same as old lore uh
errant inlet
Because why would draedon make a whole new cyborg body and imbue it with the virus when you can just let the virus go ham at a queen bee
glass arch
the queen bee isnt there anymore
glass arch
its just the plague stuff now
drowsy plank
the point im making is that there's no reason for her to "turn into a queen bee"... whatever that means... still. cause you haven't explained what that even means yet lmao
north oracle
he's just trying to instigate fights here
glass arch
if i replace my arm with a robotic arm and i cut my robotic arm off there isnt gonna be my organic arm in there
north oracle
ignore him
errant inlet
Basically the virus formed an outer shell "around" the queen bee
So you scrap that shell
drowsy plank
oh okay so i should've just stuck with blocking him the first time
good to know
will do that again now
drowsy plank
anyway the whole insignia thing got me thinking
about the fact that insignia is the last pure movment accessory cal has lmao
glass arch
ture
north oracle
exhumed insignia
drowsy plank
i mean there are dashes and wings but no pure boosts, and sure some have a pitiful amount of ms slapped on but that isn't a movement accessory
lmfao no exhumes are for lore items
north oracle
damn it
north oracle
lmfao no exhumes are for lore items
yeah that makes sense thinking about it actually
drowsy plank
point is, i wanted to turn yharim's gift from a stat stick with a star cloak slapped on into an actual movement based accessory (a la old yharon lore prolly)
glass arch
that could work
north oracle
i like that
drowsy plank
ill prolly type up a draft but ill need to wait until tomorrow to post it anyway
errant inlet
If the insignia was to be upgraded past it's nerfed state, it would have to come with massive downsides to prevent it from being able to cheese all and any bosses that there are
north oracle
i can post it if you put it in here
errant inlet
The only logical conclusion i can come up with for an improvement of insignia is a post yharim upgrade which would let you kinda free roam the game
drowsy plank
oh cool
errant inlet
Other than that it would be too op for any stage before endgame
drowsy plank
yeah lemme just pop open my doc and ill get to work on it
north oracle
đź‘Ť
drowsy plank
Rework Yharim’s Gift Into A Pure Movement Accessory
Did you know? The last pure movement accessory obtainable in Calamity is the Soaring Insignia you obtain from the Empress of Light.
This leaves accessory progression in a really weird spot because Insignia ends up being… viable until Boss Rush. It’s just THAT good, and there’s nothing else that even slightly competes with it because there are no other items added into progression that are even slightly like it.
Calamity needs more movement accessories (we’re also lacking in mid-Hardmode but that’s a problem for another time), so why not look to a very similar source to produce one?
Yharon’s old lore item was almost identical to the Vanilla implementation of Soaring Insignia and while such an effect was never added back in (for obvious reasons), it DOES make a connection between Yharon and flight/movement boosts.
My argument is to go all in with Yharim’s Gift. Turn it into an actual pure movement based boost, instead of the pathetic and confused stat stick it is today. It’s just an upgraded Star Cloak with 30 defense and 15% damage and movement speed slapped on to make it viable! That’s lame as hell! Making it into an actual spiritual successor to Soaring Insignia, or even just something entirely new (but still movement based) would help with both its identity and the lack of movement accessories in the late game.
drowsy plank
i can post it if you put it in here
this look good, you think?
north oracle
looks pretty good to me
although as someone who doesn't write suggestions i don't know a ton
drowsy plank
fair, it just needs to be good enough for you to post, everyone else can just tell you to edit it if they don't like it after it's up
wide river
Don't forget the fact that Yharim's Gift gives 30 defense as well!
wide river
For even more stat stick-ness
blazing kettle
i dont get this suggestion
drowsy plank
i just noticed yharim's gift's meteors are active whenever the players iframes are
i wonder how that interacts with lucrecia...
wide river
Oh good lord
north oracle
i just noticed yharim's gift's meteors are active whenever the players iframes a...
oh no
drowsy plank
i dont get this suggestion
yharim's gift is boring and there are 0 pure movement accessories post-Empress
this kills two birds with one stone
north oracle
^
drowsy plank
it gives yharim's gift a niche, and helps fill the progression gap between soaring insiginia and... well beating the game i guess
grim tusk
SISy
drowsy plank
it's an existing item??
wide river
A solution could be to remove the defense and damage boosts, and boost the movement speed by a bit
north oracle
it's a rework item
drowsy plank
im just asking for it to be more movement focused than just the 8th post-ML stat stick
grim tusk
Just remove the make it a spiritual successor to Old Yharon lore and Soaring insignia
drowsy plank
oh fair
north oracle
kk
wide river
It does go a bit into detail on how the rework should happen, I think removing that will fix it
grim tusk
^
blazing kettle
isnt yharims gift a melee accesory
wide river
No
grim tusk
isnt yharims gift a melee accesory
No thats yharim’s insignia
blazing kettle
ah
glass arch
nah its just stat stick 129356187935
drowsy plank
đź‘Ť yharim's jarhim
glass arch
jharims yharim
drowsy plank
yharim's fat toke
wide river
Yharim and his Yharim lived in a Yharim
drowsy plank
i get yharim is important and all but maybe we should add like. another word to every item that's just Yharim's [Item]
i cant wait to beat him and then i upgrade my auric into Yharim's Armor
glass arch
the Yharmor
glass arch
it Deals Yharim's Damage
north oracle
does that look better now?
wide river
Looks good đź‘Ť
drowsy plank
should prolly just uh... @grim tusk
grim tusk
Hämis 👍
drowsy plank
ez
north oracle
nice
half imp
yeah for this instead of saying make it into a soaring insignia
just say that we have no good movement accessories (barring wings and dashes) that are obtained after Soaring, or maybe just after Moon Lord
swift wharf
good suggestion
half imp
don't focus on the upgrade, focus on the fact that half the game is lacking a movement accessory
but honestly
movement accessories need a WHOLE lot more than just a new one
right now there's 3? good movement accessories that aren't boots, dashes, or wings; being Frog Leg, Magiluminescence, and Soaring
wide river
Considering movement speed becomes nearly irrelevant in the late game due to wings just being really fast, perhaps a few more would be good
half imp
and two of those are pre-boss
north oracle
aero stone too
half imp
aero isn't nearly as good as those
north oracle
yeah
drowsy plank
aero is pretty good
north oracle
at least it's an option
half imp
it's mostly good bc of lack of good movement imo and the flight time ig
drowsy plank
aero + preHM wings is really good for the early game
considering fledgling and skyline exist
drowsy plank
but it does drop off hard after BoB and Literally Any Good Wings
since boots and leg also provide the same kind of bonuses
and it's less noticable with stronger wings
half imp
magiluminscense casually being viable the whole entire game because it provides the highest amount of one of the three movement boosts that matter:
(being accel, jump speed, and flight time)
(move speed matters earlygame but it falls off a cliff as soon as you're not using balloons)
drowsy plank
wait magiluminescence gives flight too? goddamn
half imp
no
drowsy plank
oh lol
half imp
it gives 1.25x accel
i was just saying those 3 are the only move boosts that genuinely make a large difference
half imp
yeah but once you get tracers you dont need it... as much
or insignia
magi also buffs run speed
a lot
like specifically boot run speed
drowsy plank
huh
drowsy plank
ill be honest maybe it's just how i play but tracers horizontal speed always felt like more than enough to the point it's almost hard to control, which is why i run it with soaring so much to make up for its lacking vertical
but i imagine magi is prolly really good with just wings
drowsy plank
fair
another accessory that Sucks is Plague Hive
been thinking, it might be cool if it somehow allowed you to bypass Plague Immunities, therefore making it better than just the World's Worst Instant Upgrade (It does nothing)
wide river
It used to have Toxic Heart in the recipe, but that got removed due to Toxic Heart being exclusive to Expert Mode at the time
swift wharf
make plague heart buff you if you're plagued
wide river
Maybe the Toxic Heart could be added back now that it's no longer Expert Mode exclusive
swift wharf
make plague heart buff you if you're plagued
or any of the accs idk their differences
wide river
Before I post this suggestion, would adding an image mess things up or no
Here's the suggestion, for reference
Rework Violence
One might think that with Violence's sprite it'd be a standard spear or trident, but no. It's a spear you throw out that follows your cursor, which is just a glorified yoyo. Due to this, it is one of the more boring drops from Supreme Witch, Calamitas. Considering that this item has had the same behavior for a year and a half with only one change, I think it's time for it to be different. Changing this could lead to more unique weapons in the endgame, as well as giving Violence more of an identity.
I'm thinking that I should add the Violence sprite just so people know what I'm talking about
bright crag
Add a give of it being used
wide river
I'll see what I can do, but I can't promise that I can get one
drowsy plank
was checking to see if the wiki had a gif and
man remember when weapons had organic/inorganic bonuses
truly a funny moment
wide river
That existed?
wide river
I thought the only "type damage" that existed was debuff resistances, huh
blazing kettle
wasbt that planned to be expanded upon at some point in the past?
drowsy plank
tbf it's kinda like a rudimentary version of what the debuff system is
wide river
I don't know how to crop the video so this is what you get
hollow shell
Pretty sure it was meant to have a true melee combo and a throw-out
when it was originally proposed
But we only were able to do the throw-out
for whatever reason
Mighta been time restraints
wide river
Ah, so somewhat like what the Ark of the Cosmos is.
wide river
Why is it just a glorified yoyo?
It's literally everything a yoyo is, just with a bigger hitbox
swift wharf
Because why not
If you want to suggest a rework, go ahead, but the sprite part makes zero sense
wide river
How so?
swift wharf
"It looks like this so it MUST do this"
hollow shell
I don't understand
wide river
What don't you understand, sorry?
swift wharf
Fyi rover I'm eclipse
hollow shell
I thought Emmalyn was also saying that Violence had a stupid sprite for its function
ah yes I see in my funny notes
swift wharf
trolled by april fools
wide river
Fyi rover I'm eclipse
Oh I had known ever since I saw how you were talking
You have a distinct talking style
hollow shell
I think this was the legitimate inspiration for Violence and how it functions
I may have even been the one to propose that
swift wharf
I remember something else doing that but idk what
wide river
If I knew how to code I'd make a concept of what a Violence rework could look like, but again
That'd just become a SIS
swift wharf
Tbf I wouldn't mind it having a charge and throw animation
wide river
Let me see if I can describe what I was thinking about through text
drowsy plank
hey wait @wide river do you still have violence and the game open
wide river
hey wait <@862493534950785036> do you still have violence and the game open
I don't have the game open, but I can get that set up easily.
Right, what did you want me to do?
drowsy plank
Right, what did you want me to do?
could you check if rancor and violence have their onhit organic effects work on exos?
wide river
Yea, sure
Violence makes a bunch of sparks fly when the Exo Mechs are hit, and Rancor doesn't seem to do anything
drowsy plank
okay cool
Temp ended up getting me the code anyway but I appreciate the double checking đź‘Ť
wide river
I should get a better video of Violence before sending that suggestion
One that shows that it actually follows the cursor, preferably
Right, I think this one will be better
crude geode
I feel like violence is a cool concept but it’s weakened by the fact that it’s just. Go wherever you click.
crude geode
Yeah atm it kinda just. feels like a yo-yo with how it works
half imp
If I knew how to code I'd make a concept of what a Violence rework could look li...
but I might be able to add it to doze melee reworks if I have enough time and like it enough :)
wide river
but I might be able to add it to doze melee reworks if I have enough time and li...
Want me to tell you the idea?
...Why does it have the 🗜️react.
swift wharf
formatting
hollow shell
Oh uhhhhhhh
The video size
It must be below 8 megabytes
Thas why we got this pinned https://8mb.video/
wide river
Here, let me send the video here instead
hollow shell
I'm not sure how this works considering you're not even Nitro yet you were able to send it up there
hollow shell
heh
wide river
I don't know how to crop videos, but I'll check if I can
hollow shell
m
wide river
Right, that should've done it
Somehow just by removing a bit at the end and beginning it more than halved the size
half imp
I'm not sure how this works considering you're not even Nitro yet you were able ...
i think due to boosting we can send like
50 mb
oh
glass arch
level 2 is 50
proper granite
it seems like there isnt anything ingame that tells you when exactly the mech alts are fought
i know i had to look it up when i started playing calamity
hollow shell
i think due to boosting we can send like
Ahh you right you right
proper granite
so for example aquatic scourge is pretty obviously supposed to be the first boss of hardmode since it mirrors the desert scourge that was fought previously but cryogen is also available immediately at the same time while brimstone elemental, which is a little before or the same tier as cryogen requires specifically a mythril pick from the first mech boss
drowsy plank
aquatic scourge is currently second
proper granite
then calamitas, which is generally fought after or at the same time as third mech has a crafting recipe which is very similar but easier to make
proper granite
aquatic scourge is currently second <:CirrusBreakdown:662872697419857920>
ig it depends on your class equipment cause i melt that boy right at the start
drowsy plank
oh yes you can beat scooge in pre-Hardmode easily but he is still the second in progression
proper granite
and calamitas is on tier with plantera
yeah like after third mech i say during cause you can do it if youre bold
drowsy plank
you can fight Cultist as your first boss if you want to be bold
that shouldn't be considered for progression
proper granite
the power spike is not very large in this case
on my first death PT i did calamitas before destroyer cause it was just easier
proper granite
shouldnt be disregarded regardless
drowsy plank
callie is supposed to be fought on tier with plantera
wide river
shouldnt be disregarded regardless
It shouldn't be disregarded, but it also shouldn't be taken as fact
drowsy plank
all it really means is maybe calamitas should be made harder, at most
proper granite
It shouldn't be disregarded, but it also shouldn't be taken as fact
well thats why i used general language
drowsy plank
okay we're getting off topic, what exactly is the point you're trying to make?
proper granite
it seems like there isnt anything ingame that tells you when exactly the mech al...
its confusing if you dont look it up
wide river
If we don't assume that the players will use other mods or the wiki, then the only way of knowing about it would be the Guide, which most modded players ignore
drowsy plank
its confusing if you dont look it up
boss checklist
proper granite
and specifically with brimstone elemental i think you could work the required progression into the recipe so you could know when it's available
since its already gated behind one mech
drowsy plank
we're already reorganizing them next update i think
so that cryo is last, brimmy is second, and AS is first
regardless that would probably interfere with non-linearity
ripe owl
we're already reorganizing them next update i think
Who are "we"?
wide river
We are us
They am I
drowsy plank
so true
ripe owl
i mean the devs
Then it's them
drowsy plank
technically it was a suggestion that did it so im referring to the sugg-disc community obviously
ripe owl
You're not a dev, Mr Longname
drowsy plank
you can just call me Cog lol
ripe owl
proper granite
regardless that would probably interfere with non-linearity
oh you cant summon brimstone elemental pre-mech if you have earlyHM progression rework on
drowsy plank
yeah see it was eclipse obviously the "we" was referring to me and my very good friend eclipse i was definitely involved with this
proper granite
thats the reason i bring it up
drowsy plank
yes i know unholy cores are locked behind mythril but if you just kill golem then you could do brimmy at any time
proper granite
based, actually
drowsy plank
the point is yes some spawners do have progression locks
like ravager and brimmy
but overall most bosses can be fought in any order
i mean you DO need to beat WoF to do the Hardmode bosses still, after all
wide river
yes i know unholy cores are locked behind mythril but if you just kill golem the...
When you don't want to do a mech so you progression skip to like two tiers past to kill a boss to craft the summon to a boss whos drops are irrelevant at that point
drowsy plank
nah nah i needed abaddon for void of extinction, duh
proper granite
that big pre generated arena for plantera with a bunch of plantera bulbs makes skipping mechs very tempting
wide river
nah nah i needed abaddon for void of extinction, duh
Ah yes, the stat stick accessory
Yharim's Gift 0.5
kindred skiff
I’ve never used violence
drowsy plank
Ah yes, the stat stick accessory
Yharim's Gift 0.5
it's not a stat stick, that would imply any of its effects were actually good! i just use it for brimflames immunity, brimflames on attack, and 12% damage
discount emblem stacking đź‘Ť
proper granite
putting some relevant progression material like mythril or [any mech boss soul] as a crafting ingredient for unholy core would also alert the player of the tier of weapons you can craft with that material as well right when they become available
crude geode
it's not a stat stick, that would imply any of its effects were actually good! i...
implying stat sticks have to be good
kinda cringe bro
proper granite
cause they exist but you have to specifically go down there and mine some suevites when you get your mythril pickaxe or else you might miss their use case
drowsy plank
> implying stat sticks have to be good
kinda cringe bro
true, but the only stat it actually gives is damage, so im saying it's worse than a stat stick :)
proper granite
idk its weird and not an easy thing to solve
drowsy plank
i dont really consider it a problem
people use boss checklist
if they dont they can also just check the wiki
frankly, missing bosses is probably a good thing for the average player
more replayability with new content to find
proper granite
well again you also miss a tier of weaponry and the earlyHM progression rework can be frustrating if you dont find stuff like that
drowsy plank
it's not exactly like you can just ignore the crags considering you need essence of havoc to summon calclone, and henceforth supreme calamitas anyway lol
idk i dont exactly thing there is an easy solution for this besides just. have boss checklist or check the wiki
proper granite
it's not exactly like you can just ignore the crags considering you need essence...
i went down to the crags with my cobalt pickaxe and tried to mine it at one point
you can absolutely ignore it
we could add more status message bloat
drowsy plank
i mean yeah you can ignore the ore i meant you can't ignore the biome
which is the more important thing here
if you HAVE to go to crags you might think "hm, i wonder if there's stuff here earlier, too?"
proper granite
frankly, missing bosses is probably a good thing for the average player
i think earlyHM progression rework twists your arm a little bit in terms of skipping bosses
proper granite
like its frustrating enough for new players that guiding them a bit might be a good idea
drowsy plank
i think they meant you can't skip them because you need the power from the drops or something
proper granite
i think they meant you can't skip them because you need the power from the drops...
hard for new players i mean
half imp
being able to skip bosses is good
but it shouldn't be overly common for a player to not realize a boss existed
which is very much possible with crab and brimmy rn
proper granite
yeah and especially if its being balanced with fighting those bosses in mind
you can skip them, but in the case of unholy cores you also miss out on weapons that you didnt know you could craft
that wouldve been really easy to craft and sometimes better then your current ones
glass arch
well id say more like just crab because you use essence of havoc for brimmy's and clones summon
if you can find clone's summon you can find brimmy's without too much more effort
drowsy plank
just add cores to callie's summon :)
glass arch
what
cores are post plant and clone is same tier as plant
proper granite
well id say more like just crab because you use essence of havoc for brimmy's an...
youll probably get the idea that infernal suevites can be mined at the start of hardmode which is when you need to go to the crags to get crafting materials but its impossible to mine until you kill a mech
glass arch
or do you mean the other cores
proper granite
so you have to go back, just to get the cores
wide river
There's way too many cores in Calamity
glass arch
mfw multiple crafting materials are called cores
drowsy plank
so true
glass arch
mfw this isnt even all of the things that have core in them just in cal
(couldnt fit blazing core on there)
wide river
Add in like two or three more from QoL mods and you have a recipe for confusion
cobalt pewter
mfw this isnt even all of the things that have core in them just in cal
cores that make up core of calamity (or as would be a more appropriate name, coc) could very well be banished
lead core doesn't exist anymore at least
drowsy plank
bloodflare core bloodstone core
graceful walrus
are joke suggestions allowed?
glass arch
no