suggestions-discussion

[small timber]

but yeah crit damage will probably be more obscene than AP anyway so never gonna happen

[half imp]

nah

[swift wharf]

no not really

[half imp]

crit dmg should be on menacing

so you have to mix

[frosty trellis]

(Menacing gives flat damage )

[swift wharf]

yea

[half imp]

if it was on anything

[swift wharf]

minishark powerspike

[crude geode]

🧌

[half imp]

THAT would be more broken than AP

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

It was a joke

[small timber]

(1 flat damage is basically 2 AP)

[swift wharf]

my mechanics aren't broken

it's the mod that's not balanced

😊

[frosty trellis]

THEN STOP THREATENING ME WITH EVEN MORE UNBALANCED SHIT

[half imp]

what if menacing provided light amounts of DR penetration

like

very light

[swift wharf]

just balance the mod

iirc

[frosty trellis]

DR pen instead of armor pen could be interesting

Like, .5% Dr pen per menanacing

[swift wharf]

dr pen when it'd affect 5 things idk

[half imp]

DR pen wouldn't be nearly as busted as AP

[small timber]

flat DR pen?

[swift wharf]

doctor pen

[small timber]

multiplicative DR pen maybe, flat will cause problem

[frosty trellis]

Fair

If multiplicative like, 1-2% Dr pen per menacing seems fair

[swift wharf]

attack speed

[frosty trellis]

Violent:

[swift wharf]

melee isn't a real class

[half imp]

menacing could also add like debuff dot

a small amount

[glass arch]

does arcane really need something

[crude geode]

yes.

[half imp]

yes

most of all yes

[crude geode]

more than any other affix

[frosty trellis]

Yes

[crude geode]

the thing is so useless

[frosty trellis]

Arcane is horrid

Bc vanilla hardcoded Mana cap

[half imp]

arcane giving mana regen too

would be cool

[frosty trellis]

After you hit 550 it's worthless

OOOOOO

MANA REGEN

[glass arch]

now that i think about it yeah it definitely doesnt help that its a single line reforge

[crude geode]

mana regen not just being a thing on 3 items

[frosty trellis]

And a potion and station buff*

[glass arch]

mana regen is silly

[crude geode]

the potion is one of those 3 things

[swift wharf]

arcane should ignore the cap

tbh

[half imp]

really the two that need this most is like

[crude geode]

does crystal ball give mana regen

[half imp]

arcane and quick

[crude geode]

yeah

[half imp]

arcane and quick are just

bad

[swift wharf]

then we can nerf star beam rye

ez

[half imp]

hmm i wish i could think of something not damage related for menacing

maybe projectile speed

[frosty trellis]

Wait, no I'm dumb
It's max Mana, damage and Mana cost reduction

[half imp]

so it's not just flat out better than lucky or violent

[swift wharf]

inflicts enemies with fearidfk

[half imp]

projectile speed would be interesting

dunno how it'd work

[swift wharf]

something something point blank funnies

[half imp]

but it would make some weapons way more usable

[half imp]

oh

yeah forgot point-blank

[frosty trellis]

Would be completely worthless on half the guns in the game after holy fire starts existing

[swift wharf]

fast projectile = not so point blank

[frosty trellis]

No

It's not like that

[half imp]

but it is?

[frosty trellis]

D.Breath has a point blank of 10 blocks ATM

It's weird

I don't know the formula

[half imp]

it's a set length of time iirc

[swift wharf]

it's time not distance yeah

[half imp]

so more speed = more point blank range

[swift wharf]

for some ungodly reason

[frosty trellis]

Apparently d.breath is supposed to have a 16 block point blank but it's a 10 block

According to Ozzatron

[half imp]

oh menacing could give knockback

[swift wharf]

when the mechanic is poorly implemented

[half imp]

i think that'd be the best option

[frosty trellis]

I've tested it, the damage each bullet does increases when closer than 10 blocks

[half imp]

knockback wouldn't make menacing flat out better than the others

[frosty trellis]

Yeah kb would be cool

Would make it good for non-boss purposes as well

Which is fun

[half imp]

yeah

[frosty trellis]

Not everything needs to be boss centric!

[half imp]

@small timber what about knockback for menacing

and what about for silent

[swift wharf]

but but but but
zrue melee boss balanc,......,.....,

[crude geode]

I feel like half the time the knockback on cal weapons is like. randomly thrown on

[small timber]

I feel kb might be a bit too useless since it is largely affected by weapon

If your musketball minishark can knockback herpling then it become an entirely different issue

[half imp]

i mean

we don't want the secondary effect to outclass lucky or violent in combat

DR pen would 100% do that

and make menacing by far the best option in most situations

[small timber]

Violent and Lucky already have better scaling than menacing (naturally) so I think should be fine

I am willing to change menacing but yeah, i dont feel kb fit and want something better/more fitting than dr pen

[half imp]

yeah but it's only minorly better

DR pen is much better than the difference in menacing and lucky

[small timber]

Violent is a lot better but yeah lucky is only minor

(which is why I am willing to change menacing yeah)

[half imp]

violent/lucky/menacing all scale the same actually for the most part

[small timber]

It is just the first idea that make sense so I put it there just so there is no blank in the suggestion

[half imp]

except you get less of violent and lucky from gear

so they're better

[small timber]

Basically yeah

But since they are not changing gear stats massively that likely will stay the case

[gray nebula]

if it gets accepted i cant wait for it to not get implemented because itd be really ugly to implement

like how even would you do it.. like

the hook is made out of 4 points ,with one on the player and one on the hook's end, and then 2 other ones inbetween

if the points are aligned its simple to just make the hook shorter of course, you just shrink the distance between the points

but what if youre swinging , how do you "shrink the cord"

:/

[crude geode]

yeah the physics on that sounds. awful.

[gray nebula]

part of the reason why i didnt implement it

other part is because the whole point of the joke is that the hook reeling mechanism is broken so thats why its just stuck extended and you can swing around

[crude geode]

lmao fair

[sudden knot]

Has anyone made a suggestion of the astral infection not spawning on top of unique biomes?

Just about had my snow biome totally overwritten by the meteor.

[small timber]

they try to fix it next patch iirc

[sudden knot]

Good to know

[small timber]

ok apparently no it is only for corruption

I thought it avoid hallow or something next patch but seems no

[blazing kettle]

snow doesnt get overwritten, and the hallow can just be moved elsewhere

but has the astral infection ever taken over a jungle?

[glass arch]

it shouldnt

but if worldgen becomes fucky (as it sometimes does) it has the potential to

[ripe owl]

Oh huh

[gray nebula]

isnt that in the tooltip

unsure if that made the final cut

[drowsy plank]

it is not

well

it doesn't say it's broken

The wulfrum slingshot trades the ability to reel you back in for advanced rope physics, letting you swing around the hook as you please```

[crude geode]

trades the ability to reel you back in

pls make Wulfrum acrobatics be able to reel on

[ripe owl]

Yes

[grave zinc]

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[errant bobcat]

Also they should make the wulfrum acrobatics pack a actual hook that just scales in game progression so you don’t need to waste an acc slot on it

[swift wharf]

it's a

preboss hook

[bright crag]

^

[swift wharf]

[bright crag]

And you're supposed to use more than one hook throughout progression

[swift wharf]

it's supposed to use an slot as well

why are people like this 😭

[bright crag]

Legendary scaling was removed precisely because people would use it for the whole game

[swift wharf]

If you really like it, you won't care about a slot

[half imp]

it would be nice, though, to have an upgrade to it later

[bright crag]

Tru

[serene tendon]

Just make it an actual hook that doesn't scale

[swift wharf]

just leave it alone because it is a perfectly fine item

😊

[drowsy plank]

istg people will only leave it alone once it has like

two effects or something

[half imp]

it has two effects

the swing and the fall damage prevention

[drowsy plank]

i mean like

that it is like two accessories in one

because rn everyone just says "well why isn't it a hook!"

[swift wharf]

just keep shattering their dreams

ez

[frosty trellis]

Honestly, yeah

Let acro pack be it's own thing

[drowsy plank]

oh of course, but it doesnt make what i said any less true

acro pack sugg don't when

[swift wharf]

the don't is that i'll eat the cranium of whoever makes a suggestion about it

[crude geode]

You’re willing to eat the craniums of most people who make suggestions

[drowsy plank]

arent we all

[half imp]

i just wish there was an acro pack that felt more mobile

it's always felt a little stiff to me

idk why

[hollow shell]

Isn't Acid Rain unbelievably common for a while after EoC

[half imp]

idk I have ran into this issue multiple times myself

less so recently because I plan ahead more now

[hollow shell]

aight it's a one-time guaranteed spawn

[half imp]

But I've also seen others with the issue

It's guaranteed to spawn after EoC and AS

Maybe polter?

the other thing is just

torrential tear and caustic tear do not both need to exist

but that's not the main reason for the suggestion so I left it as an option for a solution

[hollow shell]

I dislike replacing Torrential with Caustic because that'd make trying to spawn normal rain feel kinda hacky and unintentional

[half imp]

not if you change the tooltip to indicate it does both

[hollow shell]

Also the resulting rain would be subject to AR's dissipation rules and not normal weather

[half imp]

oh true

didn't think about that

still an option but yeah it's not a perfect replacement

[drowsy plank]

...why doesnt that sugg have a formatting flag

is something wrong with the bot again

[half imp]

rip

[drowsy plank]

ok there we go

@cedar grove your sugg needs a title and body like the rest

[half imp]

also like

Wulfrum cores aren't RNG

[drowsy plank]

oh right lmao

[cedar grove]

eh

[half imp]

they're only dropped by empowered enemies

Which already spawn more often by a wulfrum.. beacon?

Is that the new name?

[drowsy plank]

i guess if you're having a really hard time spawning a amplifier?

amplifier

[cedar grove]

yup but the beacon i used three times didnt drop any cores so welcome to rng

[half imp]

Amplifier ahh

[drowsy plank]

do you mean the lure

lure doesnt spawn amplifier

[half imp]

nah I was looking for wulfrum amplifier

[drowsy plank]

no i meant young

[half imp]

This

[drowsy plank]

he mentioned a "beacon"

[half imp]

yeah I was talking to them

[drowsy plank]

also wait

you need cores to use the lure??

????

[cedar grove]

unfortunatly

[drowsy plank]

if you used it three times you already had enough cores for the armor

[half imp]

So how it works is a type of enemy called wulfrum amplifier empowers other wulfrum enemies near it, that's the blue aura

[cedar grove]

tellme about it

[half imp]

when an enemy is empowered, it always drops a core

If it's not empowered it never does

No RNG about it

[drowsy plank]

you only need 7 cores to craft all the wulfrum items anyway...

[cedar grove]

so what i just sit there in the bluoe circle with no minion and wait for one to spawn and walk into the circle

[half imp]

Wulfrum Amplifiers only spawn naturally though, not from the Wulfrum Lure

[half imp]

basically ye

The amplifier makes more spawn

[cedar grove]

hm

Okay but I would also argue who tf would ever know that

[half imp]

emits a field around it that will supercharge nearby Wulfrum Robots and increase their spawn rates by 5.5x. If a player enters this field, it spawns 1 / 2 Wulfrum enemies.

from the wiki

[cedar grove]

N one browses every enemy of the wiki i have 2000 hours i should def know t hat

[half imp]

that's a better point, but the better suggestion would be to provide in game documentation of it somehow

[cedar grove]

agreed

[frozen hornet]

It's not that hard to figure out

The spawn rate gets buffed so much it's impossible not to notice

[cedar grove]

no shit i took me literally zero seconds to figure out once he told me lmao

[frozen hornet]

I'm saying it's not hard to figure out if you're a new player and don't want to use the wiki

[cedar grove]

well actually its impossible to figure out play the game man

[drowsy plank]

what

it is not impossible to figure out

[small timber]

Yeah you throw wulfrum metal scrap or wulfrum battery to recipe browser and the item is there

[cedar grove]

several people are typing

[drowsy plank]

it's like maybe a bit difficult if you aren't paying close attention

[half imp]

I do think that wulfrum cores could have a tooltip line explaining it better

[cedar grove]

xpc im not sure what ur ever reffering to man

[half imp]

like "Only drops from empowered wulfrum enemies"

[cedar grove]

well it doesn't only drop from empowered enemies but it raises the drop rate to 100%

[small timber]

Oh I missaw it as wulfrum lure

[half imp]

it's only when empowered

pretty sure

[cedar grove]

nah

[small timber]

Pretty sure only amplifier drop it naturally but at the same time maplifier is the one empowering so

[half imp]

yeah

[cedar grove]

i mean i get it all the time from random ones and the lure once in a while so yeah but the amplifier tip is nice thx

[half imp]

ok I love the idea but it just

doesn't seem like a calamity feature

for pinning recipes

[glass arch]

yeah it doesnt seem calamity to me

[half imp]

seems like its own addon mod

[glass arch]

ik calamity does a bunch of qol stuff but pinning recipes seems like something more specialized

[half imp]

which would be such a good mod to exist too bad I'm not skilled enough to make it

[distant gyro]

recipe browser can pin recipes I think

[glass arch]

yeah

[half prairie]

true

[half imp]

yeah recipe browser can

although making the guide more useful and having it built in through that seems cleaner

[half prairie]

i mean ig downloading another mod is ez

[glass arch]

on its own the idea is great it just seems a step too far into dedicated qol mod to me

[half prairie]

yeah cause how you put in an item in the crafting slot and it shows everything you can make with it

[distant gyro]

the guide being the guide is part of the reason why recipe browser is generally used

[half prairie]

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

recipe browser allows pinning recipes by "favoriting" them

[hollow shell]

Recipe Browser already allows for this, yes.

And Recipe Browser is like, the most used mod aside from Calamity itself, I think

[small timber]

I just think it would be like, useless for calamity to add it

how many people who use tmod dont use recipe browser, and if they use recipe browser they already have the option to favourite, and even if they dont know you can favourite with recipe browser chances are they will not go to guide for a favourite option

I think the most direct/similar mod is boss checklist, calamity doesn't exactly add their own boss checklist dont they; or magic storage: a suggestion to "add better/larger chest" will make more sense if magic storage dont exist (but they exist so)

[cobalt pewter]

the last example is probably just me being contrarian but it's not as mandatory as boss checklist or recipe browser are

(also I hate magic storage so )

[small timber]

I mean, recipe browser is "mandatory" but favouriting recipe is not

[frosty trellis]

Recipe Browser, Ore Excavator and Magic Storage are the "correct" ways to play terraria, don't @ me

[cobalt pewter]

@frosty trellis

[cobalt pewter]

only recipe browser is relevant in that string of nonsense

[glass arch]

id slap boss checklist on there too but its just a matter of preference

[small timber]

Ore excavator is definitely not needed (ore slime, mining speed), magic storage you can get by without (and tbh the new magic storage "features" make the mod worse)

Like magic storage giving weapon dps stat or something that are incredibly inaccurate, or automatically is deluxe version which makes every single slot super small

[glass arch]

ore excavator is mainly for people who are too lazy to mine out the entire vein (like me)

plus its a bit faster

[frosty trellis]

Ore Excavator is nice for clearing out large open spaces in hell pref WoF since explosives don't work on hellstone yet

[grim tusk]

@hearty yew guide sugg is an ❗ ?

[hearty yew]

what

I don't understand at all.

[brazen pawn]

can somebody please help me and tell where exactly do i get calamity mod on ive been searching for so long i cant find it

[golden tulip]

the steam workshop

[small timber]

I think shade meant does this count as vanilla alteration + how hard will this be implemented? (I think?)

[formal sphinx]

idk if this has been discussed already but I had an idea for #suggestions-voting message
The suggestion to rename the "stardust" material to avoid confusion with the Stardust Pillar fragment and items.
I'd call it "Astral Ash"

[small timber]

I didnt put any specific naming for it to give freedom for the devs to decide what name they want to switch to

(+ it have to get enough votes to begin with)

[versed cape]

its pretty good imo

calamity has a lot of very extensive crafting recipes

[swift wharf]

What's the point of cal adding this, if there is a mod that already does it and better with way more features

[eternal escarp]

or, if you cant bother downloading the most used qol mod
you can use notepad or a literal paper to note down recipes if youre really desperate

[swift wharf]

TRUE

[cobalt pewter]

or be a dumb 🤓 and spend your childhood reading Terraria wikis as a hobby

eventually you'll remember everything

(totally not something I experienced myself )

[distant gyro]

[grave zinc]

@glass arch - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add an outline to Providence's attacks]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[errant bobcat]

Fr same here

[half imp]

yes!

[errant bobcat]

Yes that was very needed tho

I kept running into them bc I couldn’t see them on the floor and with omnisence pot

[golden tulip]

i just want an outline to her enrage area

[errant bobcat]

Just don’t go too far

[swift wharf]

now do it for every boss

[half imp]

So true

[half imp]

The floor ones were so bad

[serene tendon]

True

[glass arch]

LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[small timber]

One problem I found with the suggestion is it stated a lot of changes but didnt explain at all why they should be change in this way

[frosty trellis]

Thanks for calling me out

[small timber]

Like why terminal should be 5 tile (and no stating it as personal preference dont help, explain why 5 tiles is better), or light should be white instead of yellowish

[frosty trellis]

Seems

Quite sissy

[swift wharf]

no reasoning

[small timber]

Lab screen as a sign I guess is like, acceptable? But the word will be super tiny

And console as a switch have loose connection

But yeah I literally have to guess why these changes should be made

[swift wharf]

I think they mean signs as vanilla signs

[glass arch]

yeah that would make a lot more sense

[swift wharf]

and how can something be perfect but need tweaks..................

[half imp]

5 tiles makes sense as a centerpiece maybe

idk

but like

they need to explain that

[drowsy plank]

...didnt this already pass

like im pretty sure the sign thing is in the next update, and everything else is just against the rules lmao. like just make a lantern for labs if you wanna change the light color lul

@prisma moon #1052323733961977947

[prisma moon]

but it isnt a bug

[drowsy plank]

sounds like a bug

[prisma moon]

he shoots things down from above you right?

[small timber]

Yeah I remember the sign suggestion was posted, just I never remember if it got enough vote

[glass arch]

thats less of a bug report and more of crabulon being crabulon

[small timber]

Craublon should fall through blocks to your level

It just climb towards you through space and time

[prisma moon]

what?

[drowsy plank]

crabulon phases through blocks

he shouldnt be able to get stuck in the ceiling

frankly i still have no idea what you're talking about

[drowsy plank]

you're gonna need footage because this still sounds like a bug lmao

[small timber]

Also yeah the sign suggestion definitely got implemented

[swift wharf]

#1052323733961977947

[drowsy plank]

@supple hare

[swift wharf]

my brain missclicked and I forgot half of what I was gonna say

[small timber]

^ also read from here to below

[swift wharf]

maybe we should put #1052323733961977947 above suggestions

[supple hare]

well i added on ig

[small timber]

You need to explain why these changes should happen, not just what changes should be happening

[swift wharf]

reasoning > options

[small timber]

Like I can make a suggestion that just say "crabulon should have a supreme calamitas style bullet hell" but what is important is "why"

[hollow ridge]

How much does a sugg need to be voted on to be sent to the dev server again?

[small timber]

Top 20% of the week basically

[swift wharf]

it's the top 20% with most votes

[hollow ridge]

Oh

Ok

[swift wharf]

Anyways I am surprised that the labs still don't have their own light source

[hollow ridge]

By the week does it just mean all suggs from a certain date

[swift wharf]

instead of just using glass lanterns

[hollow ridge]

I feel like it says this somewhere

I just can't find it

Oh

Pins

Ok

And doesn't it ping me if my sugg actually makes it somewhere?

[swift wharf]

Yes

[supple hare]

Me too, hence why they need to either give them lab lights or change the lantern light color

[swift wharf]

I made two suggestions about it but it didn't get anywhere

[supple hare]

Guys opinion on my suggestion

[serene tendon]

It's cool apart from the glass lantern part.

Labs need their own light source anyway, why not say that instead of trying to change a vanilla texture?

[supple hare]

Idk if they would add lab furniture because exo furniture exsists

[serene tendon]

I thought it already had furniture, didn't you say so in the sugg?

[drowsy plank]

it's bad. the sign thing is already implemented in the next update, so that point is useless, and il editing the vanilla glass laterns to have a different light color instead of just asking for a new light source seems like a bad solution. i also dont get why the lab terminal should be 5 wide? and the reasoning you edited on not only is bad formatting, but doesn't make much sense.

[supple hare]

Suggestion deletion: imminent

[serene tendon]

Changing vanilla textures would also really screw up resource packs

[drowsy plank]

^

[supple hare]

Yea

Anyways I'm going to show you guys why I would like the terminal to be bigger

[serene tendon]

I really like the switches part

[serene tendon]

Symmetry reasons?

[supple hare]

Very

[supple hare]

I'm just gonna delete the rest then

[serene tendon]

Wow. That hurts so much now that I've seen it, maybe include that image in the sugg

Keep the 5 wide part in, I'd say

Because that looks painful

[supple hare]

It is very painful especially since it's either that or the draedon hologram which is 6 or 7 wide and therefore ruled out for this build

[supple hare]

Check suggestions

[serene tendon]

Looks good!

[drowsy plank]

i could be pedantic about some of the reasonings, but overall this is much better

[glass arch]

SIS moment

@vivid kraken read channel rules

[blazing kettle]

ah yes

classic summoner whip sugg

[vivid kraken]

K I did

What did I do wrong?

[glass arch]

specific item suggestion

[vivid kraken]

Oh

[glass arch]

explicitly banned after a bit too many of them and i think one getting in

[blazing kettle]

which one specifically?

[vivid kraken]

I just had a cool concept for a whip and I wanted to share it

[hollow shell]

Fun idea but yeah this type of suggestion is no longer allowed.

[vivid kraken]

I’ll edit it

[glass arch]

im not sure, i just know out of all of them just like one got in

[hollow shell]

oh boy

[hollow shell]

Plantation Staff is the prime example but there were a handful of others

Seeking Scorcher is technically one but that was a joke

[vivid kraken]

K I changed it to just a whip that fires multiple strikes

[blazing kettle]

its still a

item suggestion

[hollow shell]

You need to add a reason to the suggestion

All suggestions need to be solving some sort of problem

Also

eventually Calamity will have a 'whip update' that adds all the whips they wanna add

It hasn't been done yet due to balancing concerns

[vivid kraken]

K, but this is a concept for when they do add that update

And I have added a reason

[drowsy plank]

[hollow shell]

oh boy

[half imp]

There's also a future item suggestion rule

[hollow shell]

I hate having to shut down people acting in good faith

[half imp]

yeah

It's a good idea just not what this channel is for

[vivid kraken]

Where should I put it then?

[drowsy plank]

in a google doc and program it yourself lul

[hollow shell]

iunno
The subreddit I guess
You can post whatever you want there... the devs don't look at it

[blazing kettle]

isnt there a melee weapon or a mage weapon thats simular to the sugg?

[worldly basalt]

there's that one melee weapon that has 2

[drowsy plank]

biome blade and shadowflame doll do kinda work like that

grovetender's touch specifically is a bunch of whips

[blazing kettle]

chain knife too right

[half imp]

grovetender is one

lamentations of the chained is a ton

[drowsy plank]

oh right chain knife exists

[vivid kraken]

I just want the devs to see it. Maybe it’ll give them an idea for the whip update

[drowsy plank]

ok you see the problem with that is

they have their own ideas

and they'd much rather do those

[blazing kettle]

the devs probably have ideas planned already yeah

[lost valley]

holy shit

[half imp]

I have plenty of ideas I wish the devs would see but they don't fit here sadly

like making sentries usable by themselves

[blazing kettle]

give sentries legs

[half imp]

instructions unclear ballista staff now shoots legs instead of bolts

[lost valley]

has 12312 knockback and 0 damage now

[blazing kettle]

the grand return of grand dad

[vivid kraken]

The whole point of sentries is that they stay still and assist u. That’s what a sentry is. They arent supposed to be usable on there own( but that’s my opinion)

[drowsy plank]

grand dad... 2!

[blazing kettle]

8 grand dad

[hollow shell]

when I left the dev server there were 0 salient whip ideas

[drowsy plank]

and that's why we dont do specific item suggestions anymore

[blazing kettle]

you kinda missed the whole joke

[vivid kraken]

Oh

[drowsy plank]

just use catalyst mod's whips (since they're cannibalizing calamity whip mod)

[half imp]

So true

[worldly basalt]

give the sentries legs then break the legs so they can't walk

[lost valley]

based, just use other mods to do things that cal aint doing

[vivid kraken]

We’ll ima dm fabsol byeeee

[grim tusk]

Plantation staff

[drowsy plank]

please dont dm fab about this

[vivid kraken]

Jk

[half imp]

I am literally making my own for sentries for that

[drowsy plank]

ok good

[hollow shell]

And Catalyst is owned by Calamity devs now (technically), so...
Calamity may cannibalize whip mod too

[half imp]

Simply learn c#

[drowsy plank]

based

[half imp]

wait what

epic

[vivid kraken]

But I do wish my idea could have been seen by fabsol.

[drowsy plank]

catalyst mod will be real in 5

[vivid kraken]

Bye guys.

[grim tusk]

Yea HPU is the owner of Catalyst and he’s a Cal dev

[half imp]

til

based

[grim tusk]

Honestly lots of Catalyst has gotten into Cal dev lately

[drowsy plank]

it's because catalyst is good

[half imp]

now I simply must become a Cal dev so I can make calamity cannibalize sentry overhaul

[drowsy plank]

so true!

[grim tusk]

And before you had YuH and me already

[grim tusk]

(Pretty sure wont happen but can serve as inspiration for some whips)

[blazing kettle]

tmodloader? you mean calamityloader?

[grim tusk]

Me when 1.4 port was people spamming “where calamity” 24/7

[lost valley]

i thought you (devs) needed to rebalance a lotta shit around whips existing, bc arent they all balanced around not using them

[half imp]

the fact I got a request to make my hydrothermic vent mod not require calamity baffles me

because cal is so big

[grim tusk]

Yes thats correct

[half imp]

and it's literally a cal projectile

[grim tusk]

Summoner accessories atm are too cracked

[half imp]

Summonner needs a full rebalance anyway

[drowsy plank]

just steal the sprite

[half imp]

not just bc of whips

[grim tusk]

[grim tusk]

[lost valley]

yeah it sounds rather fun

[worldly basalt]

just add the whips and keep everything as-is, it will go perfectly fine i promise 😄

[half imp]

not just the sprite but the internal code

[lost valley]

based

[grim tusk]

Me when Melee, Summoner and Rogue all need full rebalances

[drowsy plank]

summoner when red finally looked at it too hard and now you have to remake the entire class from the ground up again

[half imp]

if I did make it

[half imp]

mage and ranger chilling due to not having a unique mechanic that breaks them

[grim tusk]

Melee speed, Accessories & Whips, Stealth & more accessories

Mage has busted as hell enchantments

[half imp]

oh I know

[grim tusk]

Ranger has some op ammos

Notably Holy fire bullets and Luminite arrows

And changing ammos is

[half imp]

wait that number wasn't even properly using bloodthirsty

I could get higher

[grim tusk]

Wait what

[half imp]

well you see, bloodthirsty applies to projectiles already in flight too

[grim tusk]

Oh that reminds me, I need to ban Final Dawn from Bloodthirsty and Resentful

[half imp]

including traitorous demon

[grim tusk]

[half imp]

if I was insane I could stack withering too

but stacking adrenaline and withering is uh

incredibly hard

with all the other micro I did

[frosty trellis]

I love traitorous and how everything can affect it :)

[drowsy plank]

isnt this already planned?

the renames i mean

[glass arch]

pretty sure

[small timber]

Yeah,they literally just, need to think of a name to change it

It unironically will be better off if the suggestion give an exact name than suggest to change it (though it will become specific)

[swift wharf]

rename vanilla fruits because cal ones came first

[blazing kettle]

blood tangerine

ancient grapes

[swift wharf]

rocacaca

[cobalt pewter]

jojo reference

[serene tendon]

Those 2 sound cool

[serene tendon]

What about Atrium Orange? As in, the (or one of, can't remember rn) chamber(s) of the heart, which the sprite appears to be based off.

[blazing kettle]

i was just spitballing

[serene tendon]

Huh? Haven't heard that phrase

[grave zinc]

@steady cloud - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add an item similar to the lunar event monoliths for the Cryogen northern lights effect]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@serene tendon - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove Meld Constructs]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[blazing kettle]

here i was thinking it'd go the other way around

[grave zinc]

@tame mountain - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add actual Calamity credits]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[hollow shell]

thing thing stuff ping explanation reason line break etc

[cobalt pewter]

laoo

[half imp]

Lol

[drowsy plank]

maybe they're... gonna turn them into blocks??????

also mine is... still in voting i guess

[swift wharf]

I hope that they have plans for it otherwise

[bright crag]

👀

We do have some ideas for meddling with the Meld set as a whole

[drowsy plank]

also isnt the renames for the health fruit already in the next update

we prolly dont need another sugg for it

@fluid steppe
#suggestions-discussion message
#suggestions-discussion message

this is already in the next update

[fluid steppe]

oh,ok,i didnt noticed it

[drowsy plank]

yeah if u wanna delete, no dupes is appreciated

[fluid steppe]

i think i will just later write about only blood orange,cause it needs to be renamed too

[drowsy plank]

no... blood orange is... in the second suggestion

i posted two links

one for elderberry, and one for blood orange/dragonfruit

they're all already renamed

[fluid steppe]

Ok

Then i will just delete the suggestion

[drowsy plank]

👍

@ashen warren already denied

furthermore shrines are getting reworked to be easier to find, and symbiote is getting overhauled too

truly we have not had a single good suggestion this week

that's like what 7 in a row?

[swift wharf]

GOOD

[ashen warren]

yo i remember reading a suggestion exactly like this back in last year october

[drowsy plank]

yes we just talked about this i posted the links

[swift wharf]

anyways shrines items are meant to be a "hey i found this nice" item

[drowsy plank]

we dont really need to discuss why the sugg is bad, it already passed and was denied anyway lul, sending it again isn't going to change that unless @ashen warren is willing to add something to differentiate it from the last one, they're literally word for word almost identical rn

[swift wharf]

different timeline where entropic claymore is an axe and tome of fates is a hammer spell book and empyrean armor is neato

[drowsy plank]

impossible

[ashen warren]

yeah im back on calamity after a few months so i didnt know it was already denied n stuff lol

mb

[drowsy plank]

it's fine, if you wanna delete or rework it, that'd be appreciated, but dupe suggs always suck cause it just takes away chances for something new to pass

[swift wharf]

critters are cool

but idk if anything that is not a killing machine would survive there

[drowsy plank]

nah absolutely things could

if things are small and hard enough, they could survive just out of the sake of not being appetizing to predators. like i think calval adds abyssal isopods, and that makes total sense

[small timber]

abit late but isnt the point of abyss layer 4 literally that it is a "dead zone" because the water pressure is getting too high?

as in "normal things" will not be able to survive there, which is why everything you encounter are basically monsters

[supple hare]

Guys

In the name of needing an arsenal lab light set I created this as a pure joke

[drowsy plank]

you'd have to show it to the art server, that's where they take sprite submissions

[supple hare]

There's a what?

How do you get there?

[drowsy plank]

https://discord.gg/CKByxd5

i think there were discussions about this

esp considering that 40 buff slots is going to be coming soon

[half imp]

yeah

This is a real issue rn

[frosty trellis]

44*

[drowsy plank]

:22:

you get the point

[small timber]

#suggestions-voting message cooldown one is passed and probably considered pretty recent

(and I think the entire reason it is not implemented yet is just waiting for 1.4.4 since they have to solve it by then anyway)

[drowsy plank]

@indigo hawk already passed

[indigo hawk]

mb i'll delete

[drowsy plank]

👍

[prime quest]

''482 - Renamed "Calamitas" (the hardmode boss) to "Calamitas Clone" and adjusted all mentions of her to reflect this change''
This would kind of spoil the fact that this Calamitas is actually a clone.

[glass arch]

not really

considering the boss defeat message literally calls her a clone

[swift wharf]

so does the lore item

[half imp]

that was the point

after the fight you realize

oh crap that was just the clone

but I think it's a good change overall still

[small timber]

#suggestions-voting message speaking of naming I just remembered that I made this suggestion and it is basically forgotten as a potential solution

(imo the best one given the scenario too)

[drowsy plank]

it passed too but never got added

so sad

[golden tulip]

i wonder how cei managed to realistically have an explanation for the eyeball thing

[swift wharf]

or maybe they have a resprite for it

[blazing kettle]

mate be expecting clone to becan eyeball forever

[golden tulip]

itd be weirder for the lore to just entirely ignore the fact that shes an eyeball

[half imp]

Whip rebalance is already planned

[hollow ridge]

Whip balancing will likely be happening

[half imp]

but there's a lot of other summoner stuff they have to do first

[drowsy plank]

while this sugg is pointless, it technically isn't breaking any rules so

yeah sure man gl lmfao

[grim tusk]

I wonder if we should add whips to the frequently suggested dont

Latest sugg also feels like walking the line between future content but since it indirectly states that we have not added whips I suppose it can stay

[blazing kettle]

a lot of flops recently

[drowsy plank]

very

[drowsy plank]

i really think we should, considering nothing productive can be said about them in their current state, so every whip sugg is basically a non-sequiter since it isn't gonna be implemented until calamity actually implements their whip overhaul. at the very least it should be added under the future content dont, if nothing else.

[swift wharf]

temporary don't

[hollow shell]

@fluid steppe That critter suggestion is incredibly weak

[fluid steppe]

I know

[hollow shell]

Also the 4th layer is meant to be sparse
It's supposed to be like a void
hence its OST being titled "void"

Unless you meant "empty" in another way?

[crude geode]

Is it actually being referred to as a whip overhaul

I will cry if so

[grim tusk]

No lol

Most we’re overhauling is getting rid of flat tag dmg

Cuz its a monstrosity

[drowsy plank]

lol

whip rework/rebalance/whatever

the point is cal still isnt caught up with them

[small timber]

Abit late but does the whip suggestion count as large scale reconsideration + #1042197406776827914 ? I am unsure about it

Since if the suggestion is requesting to balance a specific whip then maybe fine, but it is asking to rebalance all of them at once and in a specific way

It will be like "to balance rocket launcher and their ammo of how mini nuke is always the best, reduce ammo damage differences and then buff each launcher individually to compensate" or the same but for bow

(+ I am unsure of how much "whip does more damage than minion" is true outside of maybe preHM, because with equal investment you probably get way more damage for minion than for whips)

[grim tusk]

Oh wait it does

@frozen veldt see above

[half imp]

They do not do more damage then minions

period

ever

if they're dealing more DPS than your minions you need to use a better minion

[frosty trellis]

^

Even mourning star, a whip designed to be a big damage whip, isn't outdpsing

[quasi wigeon]

damn there hasn't been an actually good request in a while

[drowsy plank]

mhm

[golden sonnet]

Is it known how powerful avalanche is against worm bosses?, and is it something worth changing or mostly intentional.

[swift wharf]

Yes

It is known

[golden sonnet]

Lmao, I figured but wanted to check because it's pretty ridiculous and was going to make a suggestion post about it if it wasn't well known

[swift wharf]

consider joining #1042197406776827914

also id:customize wtf is this

[golden sonnet]

Oh wack, didn't know that existed because thread, thanks

[glass arch]

a nerf is planned but theres a lot of other stuff the devs need to do before they can get to the nerf iirc

[drowsy plank]

the "nerf" seems to just be to ignore it until they just rework it completely going off of what the devs said last time it was brought up (two days ago)

cause i guess its seen as a relic of old calamity

[small timber]

I think ozz was pretty ok with giving a cooldown too? not sure if it will be carry through later though

[fervent orbit]

whip changing can wait until whips have been properly balanced

[grim tusk]

Melee speed being ech causes lots of weapons to be broken

[drowsy plank]

@frozen veldt

already planned for implementation

istg people dont even try to look to see if their suggestion is a duplicate lmao

[frozen veldt]

oh ok

[sullen swan]

he’s actually suggesting a second rogue station

[small timber]

didnt you posted the exact same suggestion at some point and was told that it is approved?

or I misremembered

anyway it is approved (on to-do even)

and what is the use of preHM sentry armor/gear anyway, at that stage what sentry are even available outside of OOA (which already have its own armor set)

[cobalt pewter]

I'm fairly sure it was marked before

it's the exact same sugg yes

[mortal rock]

I did But with no explanation so I just wanted to make a update one sorry if caused any trouble :>

[small timber]

nah it is not trouble, I just remembered that this was posted (though I thought it was a different person)

[mortal rock]

no it was me

wait that one isn't mine

[drowsy plank]

if it's approved we probably don't? need to pass it again??

[small timber]

it is not just approved, to-do even

so yeah additional suggestion that have to go through 2 weeks of voting probably is unnecessary, if it gonna happen it will happen, if it is not it is not gonna happen because of a suggestion

[drowsy plank]

@mortal rock you can prolly just delete the sugg lmao

[half imp]

There's some pretty dang good ones in prehardmode

Caustic Croaker post EoC

is kinda insane with two sentry slots

[small timber]

ok sorry wrong elaboration, more like "do we need more than OOA sets" for preHM

[half imp]

polyp launcher post DS is good too

[small timber]

yeah for the good one having extra sentry slot earlier than intended will be balance issue too

[half imp]

yea that's the issue with sentry gear

hard to keep it and minions from being broken together

[small timber]

especially next patch have wartable for free +1 sentry permanently, doesn't really help

the balance will have to be like -> 100% power pre-EoW, 50% power post-EoW sentries, and then random pre-EoW ones will become overpowered immediately

(or have all of them be 50% power altogether which will result in sentries being dogshit)

[half imp]

which is why having at least one early accessory/armor is nice, eases the transition

especially bc OOA will give two slots

war table + accessory

[small timber]

for me I just think it is overkill

because you have like 3 sentries weapon but have an entire set for specifically those 3 weapons at that point? or accessories for them etc (accessories is even worse because it have to take into account for once OOA become available)

EOW/BOC is not exactly too late into progression, if someone follow vanilla kill order it will be (optional) King Slime -> Eye of Cthulhu -> Eater of World/Brain of Cthulhu; so like about 2nd/3rd boss into the game even

[half imp]

I don't think the OOA needs a prehardmode set

especially bc it'd be hard to like... Make four of those have good effects

[fervent orbit]

there is a whip armour for 3 whips in prehm

[small timber]

And also something added by vanilla not by calamity as an extra

Vanilla literally can add a preHM armor that give x2 damage output but you die in 1 hit and no one can say a word (other than its community trying to convince them it is a bad idea)

[drowsy plank]

whip armor for the one, maybe two whips that are actually on tier for the class at that point

[fervent orbit]

when red asks for 1.4.5 ideas im saying this and u cant tell me otherwise

[frail mantle]

i believe you

[fervent orbit]

ive been staring at this for a few minutes and i cant tell if im illiterate or ur illiterate

[drowsy plank]

there are 3 whips in preHM, two are pre-Boss, one is post-Skele, and Obsidian is post-Evils

[fervent orbit]

yea 2 whips are used with the armour primarily

(unless ur weird)

[drowsy plank]

so like just cause there's only a handful of sentries doesnt mean sentry armor couldnt work

[serene tendon]

I support this

It'd be funny

[serene tendon]

Is it ok to make a sugg asking to remove a dated vanilla item with no purpose, or is that not allowed?

[drowsy plank]

not allowed

[swift wharf]

"Which item?"

https://tenor.com/view/list-amazinggrace-court-watching-scroll-gif-13488308

[serene tendon]

Active Stone Block

[swift wharf]

ask red to put actuators on stone

[drowsy plank]

arent those so you can see bolder traps with dangersense

[swift wharf]

mayb idk

[drowsy plank]

regardless

calamity doesnt remove vanilla items

[swift wharf]

ya

and they do have a purpose

[serene tendon]

no, they don't glow with dangersense, the boulders do

[swift wharf]

are we really going to argue about the usefulness of active stone blocks

[half imp]

they're very useful for uhh

umm

uhh

pre-skeletron actuator projects

[serene tendon]

Even vanilla's dead men's chests use actuators instead, active stone blocks were obviously made before actuators existed, and they have no place in modern Terraria due to actuators being better in every way

[half imp]

with natrual wires

[serene tendon]

You can use actuators from dead men's chest traps

[half imp]

not pre skeletron

if you wanna move em

which i have needed to do before

[swift wharf]

why are we still talking about this

go ask in terramain idk

[undone cedar]

Why would calamity go through the effort of removing these

[serene tendon]

Same with wires

[half imp]

yeah but you can use natrual wires

either way

[swift wharf]

😭

[half imp]

cal doesn't remove items from vanilla

[swift wharf]

you cant even remove items without 💥 the game

[serene tendon]

That is a fair principle though, and I suspected the answer would be no, just wanted to check if this was an outlier

[serene tendon]

Really? Like, it's literally impossible?

[drowsy plank]

no idea why it would be it would probably just break worldgen lmao

[drowsy plank]

lava slimes.

that is all

[half imp]

i don't think you can actually remove items but you can make them unobtainable

[swift wharf]

this game is like a jenga tower

[drowsy plank]

there's a reason they're making terraria 2

and it ain't just for the name

[serene tendon]

Lava Slimes dropping lava in expert mode is a very good change

[swift wharf]

its also why they're making payday 3

because the engine is fine

the devs suck

[drowsy plank]

lmao

[swift wharf]

or "the code sucks" if you wanna say that im being mean

[serene tendon]

You can't move them without a wire cutter

[half imp]

you don't need to

[drowsy plank]

i mean if you're saying C# is the engine, then yes the devs just suck
im talking about terraria, in it of itself, as an engine
it would take so much work to fix the dilapidated codebase that it'd be easier to just start from scratch at this point lol

[half imp]

they are running into legit engine limitations

they can't add any more wire colors

[swift wharf]

It's an issue of "We couldn't make the game future-proof so we're making a new one"

[drowsy plank]

LOL

[half imp]

they can't add more liquids

[swift wharf]

EXACTLY

[half imp]

yea

[swift wharf]

the liquid code is

[half imp]

there's a reason tmodloader doesn't support liquids natively

[swift wharf]

engine limitations caused by their own issues

I feel like if you were to rewrite terraria from scratch it wouldn't have that problem

[grim tusk]

Terraria lighting engine try to not be ass challenge

On Tml it gets worse

[drowsy plank]

how does it get worse on TML

lmfao

[swift wharf]

tmod devs

[drowsy plank]

i meant how did the tmod devs make it worse obviously =U

no it was actually the code goblins they ransacked the lighting engine

[swift wharf]

me when pressing the lightning function keybind crashes the game

[jagged zealot]

Armor for sentries would be nice imo. Not enough support, despite being older than whips.

[half imp]

and being more interesting as active weapons often

[drowsy plank]

i mean yeah the main issue is that it already passed lmao

[crude geode]

Why have the spriters not simply pressed the sprite button

[glass arch]

@safe oxide #1042197406776827914 is better

plus melee moment

[hollow shell]

#1042197406776827914 indeed
Also infernum mode

[glass arch]

yeah infernum isnt what cal is balanced around

[frosty trellis]

I mean anything in regards to the biome blade line is either dumb overpowered or horrid as shit

[glass arch]

yeah the curse of biome blade

broken as shit or absolute shit

[drowsy plank]

does rover still do the ❗ cause

[frosty trellis]

(Mercurial tides )

[drowsy plank]

this prolly should be

[half imp]

this is a suggestion of all time

[atomic shell]

if your broken biome blade forest attunement is doing 22k damage something is severely wrong

[glass arch]

yeah lmao

[half imp]

even if that's 22k dps

that's not right

[glass arch]

22k dps pre hardmode would be funny

[half imp]

bet crossmodding

[atomic shell]

probably

[drowsy plank]

me when i use a mod that gives me an accessory that give +100% damage and wonder why my weapons are unbalanced

[glass arch]

its just

why would you use infernum as an example

when its not part of the base mod

[atomic shell]

also I find it funny that

22k damage in prehardmode
“almost unfair”

[drowsy plank]

lmfao

[glass arch]

either they forgor what biome blade they were using for that measurement or they're measuring it with insanely off tier armor and accessories

[atomic shell]

there’s no way forest attunement especially would ever reach that kind of dps

forest is like the worst one lmao

[half imp]

galaxia can't even reach that dps

[glass arch]

isnt galaxia also pretty bad

[celest tundra]

TBB isnt even that good

[atomic shell]

I think

[glass arch]

isnt unattuned TBB the best attunement

[half imp]

no

[celest tundra]

not anymore

[half imp]

not after the 400 to 200 dmg nerf

rn it's sanguine fury

[small timber]

Broken biome blade is super broken but iirc only for desert attune

[half imp]

it sucks on all bosses after it besides exo twins, surprisingly enough

Exo twins it actually outperforms AotC on

[small timber]

The other 2 I dont remember anything broken on them yeah (maybe gesture of the drowned on worm but I dont use it)

[swift wharf]

crossmodding momentum

anwyays isn't the sprite suggestion kind of a don't

because spriting

[half imp]

hmm maybe

[drowsy plank]

it isnt about respriting because of looks

if you read the donts

[glass arch]

also was this person testing DPS on dummies because if so thats even worse than testing on infernum

[half imp]

I said sprite for functionality

[small timber]

That said I am unsure if desert attune causing iframe to be resetted on contact damage (aka you die instantly to contact) is received already, might wannt bug report it again

[grim tusk]

MELEE SPEED ❗ ❗

[grim tusk]

please do

[small timber]

And also since it is posted in suggestion, shield of the ocean actually do not work

I meam the "set bonus" it provided

[grim tusk]

judging the numbers it seems like it

[half imp]

wait how so

[swift wharf]

hug

huh

[half imp]

watch them be testing on 10 grouped dummies

[glass arch]

its always funny seeing suggestions like that

[swift wharf]

there is no way bbb is doing 22k dmg

also I think that the tracers may get a shoe sprite when they get resprited

[cobalt pewter]

this sugg is peak lemao

[small timber]

It doesnt provide the "set bonus" stat with victide armor, I tried both in and out of the water

[swift wharf]

byea the suggestion is valid but why woulr you use brand of inferno with ocean shield

[small timber]

I mean this one, at least when last time I tried it out

[worldly basalt]

its called pro gamer strats you wouldn't know

[swift wharf]

i see

and why do we need to care about a shoe slot mod

[small timber]

And tracers I think already works for wing slot, so yeah probably can just drop the whole shoe slot thing

[swift wharf]

that is true

[hollow shell]

right yeah

[bright crag]

Why does this item exist again

[swift wharf]

relics of old cal.....

[small timber]

It is to give asgard's valor a completely unnecessary underwater effect

[swift wharf]

asgard valor shield bloat yippie

[small timber]

Ornate shield is at least actually useful (as a mini asgard's valor basically) but yeah shield of the ocean is just really useless

If it works properly it will actually be decently powerful, but at that point then it will be nerfed

(still waiting for asgard's valor to become a pure ornate shield upgrade)

[bright crag]

I might just suggest to delete it

I can't think of anything relevant for it to have

[small timber]

Underwater dash maybe but yeah that is a stretch

[royal tapir]

Deep Diver does that anyway smh my head

[atomic shell]

asgards valor taking deep diver would be cool

but probably annoying

[small timber]

Deep diver is AS now

Nah asgard definitely should not have deep diver, it eill only make asgard even more notoriously overpowered

"if you are underwater, give your dash item class emblem damage and about hero shield level of defense"

(it is because of stuffs like this that I seriously think abyss enemies need to be buffed)

[swift wharf]

asgard valor needs LESS materials

and the line should stop at elysian aegis but that is just my opinion

ultimate accessories are zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[golden sonnet]

I really like Asgardian, but agree with less materials

[cobalt pewter]

not all things need to be combined

[finite smelt]

Remove combines and give us 10-20 accessory slots

[serene tendon]

please no

[finite smelt]

Is this not a sign of tomfoolery?

[finite smelt]

For clarification this is a horrendous idea

Do not

[serene tendon]

People, myself included, often say radical things here, and genuinely believe the game would be better if they would be put in place. I was just giving my 2 cents

[finite smelt]

Oh god y'all unironically say stuff like that?

[fair ledge]

Ive played Calamity for 3 years and have never made a suggestion, but what about something along the lines of preventing the DoG from disappearing during phase 1 leaving you sitting like a dumbass waiting for him to come back

[serene tendon]

What, you want him to change outfits on camera?!

[fair ledge]

Nah not the phase transition lmao

At some points during phase 1 he'll just fly off

Music will stop playing

10 - 15 seconds later he'll come back

[serene tendon]

Sounds like you're just moving too far away, it's happened to me before

[fair ledge]

Could be, I'll look into it before writing any dumb shit

[small timber]

on screen DOG went into a portal yes

[serene tendon]

It's usually "death to [feature name here]", and not as radical as what you said, but yeah.

Ore Slimes for example

[fair ledge]

Ore Slimes are legendary

[serene tendon]

@swift wharf would hunt you down if he knew where you lived

I'm exaggerating of course

[fair ledge]

I love putting arbitrary challenges on myself that make Ore Slimes incredibly useful 💪

[finite smelt]

Death to tinkerer's workshop

Yknow what no
Death to crafting in general

[serene tendon]

Calamity has a very strict policy of not removing vanilla items. If they won't remove Active Stone Blocks, they won't remove that

[glass arch]

2024 copypasta where

[glass plover]

I think that The tyrant King Yharin should be added as an endgame boss according to lore tablets

[serene tendon]

They'll do it eventually

Coming Soon TM

[glass plover]

Ohhhhh Yay

I have been thinking it should be and that makes me happy

[glass arch]

@naive sky next update is planned to be on 1.4.4, sugg is not needed

[naive sky]

i did mention that it'd be a temporary patch or something

[small timber]

they are not doing patch before 1.4.4

as in, the next patch will be 1.4.4, there will be no temporary patch

[naive sky]

but yea, if it's releasing in like a week or something insignificant, then nevermind

[glass arch]

unless its mod compatibility there wont be a patch

[small timber]

(trust me there are a lot more things needing temporary patch than critter companionship guide but that didn't happen anyway)

[glass arch]

and the compatibility needs to be decided by the devs iirc

[drowsy plank]

so can you delete the sugg

[naive sky]

honestly i forgot they're already working on porting it, i thought they were still waiting on tmodloader first

i'm so sorry

[drowsy plank]

yeah well there's a dev version of tmod 1.4.4 out rn i believe, but they're just working with temporary changes they can manage on 1.4.3 that will be necessary when 1.4.4 rolls around, so it's fine

[minor spindle]

I thought the devs already had a plan for zenith or has that changed?

[willow widget]

i would assume its going to get a buff of some sort

[small timber]

rebalance zenith is explicitly stated as something that is disallowed for suggestion

because people will be endlessly arguing which approach is better that leads to no results

if you want to "buff zenith" (in damage and so on) then #1042197406776827914 is more appropriate

@wheat berry

[wheat berry]

alr thx, missed that part

[cobalt pewter]

I would love if there are less combinations in general tho

or at least less things in any given combinations

at some point certain things are just mandatory due to being a combination

if you're not using Rampart of Deities you're actively crippling yourself, for example

[blazing kettle]

yo when are we getting the ultimate acessory acessory

intetesting sugg

[small timber]

@cobalt otter you need a better reasoning than that I think, there is nothing indicating that the "Devourer of Gods" cannot use fire named "god slayer inferno"

you can just have both

[spark flax]

Add Amours for Sentries

amours?? 😳

[swift wharf]

[drowsy plank]

what type would "dimensional surge" even be?? electric?

[small timber]

nobody knows, I think the suggestion's reasoning is just pretty lacking

the basis of the suggestion is "DoG should not have god slayer inferno", but that is an opinion thing; it is perfectly fine for DoG to apply a debuff like that

[swift wharf]

Honestly

They could make it an electric debuff because of the sheer number of fire debuffs

like bruh

Storm Weaver already inflicts electrified

And unless lore changes that, it'd make sense for dog to inflict a strong version of it

[fair ledge]

Yeah would definitely make sense

[crude geode]

when all 3 major post ml bosses have similar weapon themings

[swift wharf]

AUIGH

[crude geode]

[swift wharf]

anyways

me when the godslayer dragon flames

[crude geode]

Yeah

[half imp]

I do think that we need more debuff diversity

part of the issue we have now is Fire has both the strongest boost gear as well as the most and strongest debuffs

[distant gyro]

that's changing slowly

[half imp]

awesome

[small timber]

electricity debuff amplifier who

[half imp]

Wet

Already exists