flavor is important
#suggestions-discussion
austere cargo
small timber
even if they change it to something like focus if the mechanic of stealth is not changing then it is pointless
crude geode
If you really want this change throw it in posting with the reasoning behind the change
glass arch
if they change it to focus you lose out on that feeling of badassery that "Stealth Strike" has
austere cargo
calling it stealth sets up expectations for new players it doesn't deliver on
rain jewel
Whats so hot about calling it stealth strike
glass arch
imagine if it were called focus strike
austere cargo
also, yes, stealth strike doesn't sound that great to me
small timber
it do have "stealth" features associated to it like turning invisible and reducing aggro (like invisibility potion)
crude geode
Double S at the beginning, likely
glass arch
focus strike doesnt have the same ring to it that stealth strike does
small timber
does the stealth part of stealth really matter? no
but at least there is something referencing to stealth in it\
cobalt pewter
If you *really* want this change throw it in posting with the reasoning behind t...
went ahead and done it months ago 
rain jewel
What about fatal strike
crude geode
almost a year ago*
austere cargo
fatal strike isn't bad
rain jewel
I was going to say that
small timber
fatal strike when you need to throw 100 attacks to kill a boss
crude geode
^
small timber
at that point just call it "big crit" or something
austere cargo
I mean, big crit is kind of what we're going for here
cobalt pewter
Or a scorn eater
scorn eater of deez nu
rain jewel
Call it big oof
cobalt pewter
but yeah why is scorn eater tanky
glass arch
fatal strike gives it an air of power that stealth strikes do not have
swift wharf
Now here's the question
What about the abyss
what if you want to add actual stealth mechanics to it
what would you call it
rain jewel
Ok, precise strike?
glass arch
stealth strikes are powerful yes but you arent about to one shot an on tier boss with them
cobalt pewter
what would you call it
camouflage :trollage
glass arch
in the end stealth strikes are what we have
crude geode
what would you call it
detection, like the one thing it’s currently referred to in (anechoic coating)
swift wharf
stealth strikes are powerful yes but you arent about to one shot an on tier boss...
shoutout to the suggestion about making adrenaline a one shot thing instead of 5 seconds
swift wharf
detection, like the one thing it’s currently referred to in (anechoic coating)
that is fair
small timber
precise strike was also one of the name proposed in past discussion about the topic
glass arch
shoutout to the suggestion about making adrenaline a one shot thing instead of 5...
lmao yeah that was a dumb sugg
small timber
it is like, ok, but things like "precise bar" just do not make much sense
rain jewel
Yeah
swift wharf
jorium mod focus..
austere cargo
people will get the connection
rain jewel
Precision implies some form of skill and specialization
Why would rogue hurt more otherwise
crude geode
If you *really* want this change throw it in posting with the reasoning behind t...
Again, I bring up this point.
glass arch
yeah in the end the name is the least important thing
swift wharf
people still use fiery greatsword instead of volcano
crude geode
Trying to change the mind of people who really like stealth as the name of the mechanic is pointless
Appeal to the wider crowd instead
cobalt pewter
people are heavily resistant to change
swift wharf
it makes sense
but is it needed
rain jewel
The wider crowd would love if the name was changed to amongsussy
swift wharf
do not
cobalt pewter
die
austere cargo
well, focus is fine, but the replacement for stealth strike isn't quite there yet
small timber
"focus" and "precise strike" was unironically the most agreed naming by Ozz last time this topic comes up I think
but yeah, the main thing is if stealth strike is not mechanically changing then it do not really require a name change'
austere cargo
also precision strike > precise strike
cobalt pewter
"focus" and "precise strike" was unironically the most agreed naming by Ozz last...
stealth was originally intended to be reworked entirely before the idea of the formula came in
small timber
because it will just be like "yo we change the name for this mechanic now, btw it is the exact same thing""
cobalt pewter
hold on
small timber
if they rework how stealth strike works along with the name change I can see people buy into it
crude geode
I don't have the names nailed down yet, though
The specific name doesn’t really matter, just focus on why you would be changing it, not what it would be changing it to
cobalt pewter
austere cargo
"yo we changed this mechanic entirely but didn't change the name for some reason, now we're fixing that"
small timber
imagine if Adrenaline is just renamed to like, "Flawless bar"
small timber
"yo we changed this mechanic entirely but didn't change the name for some reason...
thats the point: they didnt change how the mechanic works, yet
crude geode
Largely the individual name isn’t likely to be up to you but whatever the devs decide is best for each thing
small timber
their rework point is still a soon™️ with no ETA so cant really be relied on
glass arch
ive heard stories of how people sent death threats to the devs over the bumblebirb rework but i cant confirm it, why is stealth any different than that
small timber
even if they make stealth regen charge slower it essentially is still the same stealth mechanic, nothing fundamental really changed, just how fast it charges
austere cargo
I thought you said the current stealth was already a rework from the original stealthy stealth
small timber
"rework" as in it go from like throw 200 stealth strike to kill thing to like 100 and stealth strike not being outclassed by spam everytime
you still have the exact same thing just rebalance in a way where stealth strike is more powerful
you do not really stop performing "stealth strike" and do something else instead
austere cargo
so the mechanic never really had anything stealthy aside from the purely cosmetic invisibility?
small timber
basically yeah
austere cargo
huh
small timber
the only thing holding the name change is the hassle of changing item tooltips and also trying to change it without it just being a meaningless name change
for example Thorium can rename their mod to like "Primordial", but why would they; basically the same deal
swift wharf
ragnarok...
austere cargo
changing the title is quite a bit more than changing the name of one mechanic
swift wharf
sacred tools
crude geode
I love hyperbolic examples
swift wharf
@ dan yami
austere cargo
but I suppose if there is a major mechanical rework in the future that would be a better time to change the name
crude geode
It’s extremely unsure tbfh
small timber
Thorium is probably abit exaggerated yeah, a closer one is probably like Adrenaline to "Flawless"
austere cargo
on the other hand, you say it's a meaningless name change, but I think it's good to change meaningless names
crude geode
wanting to reframe stealth away from it’s original stealthy mechanics which were largely stripped away (aggro reduction/cosmetic invisibility) is fine tbfh. We literally saw a previous sugg not only pass but get approved
small timber
multiplayer yes, singleplayer there is only 1 target so
crude geode
austere cargo
though I understand multiplayer and calamity have an interesting relationship
crude geode
https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/9605829070245...
For the previous successful sugg
austere cargo
and it didn't get the "we've decided not to implement this" dev response?
cobalt pewter
whose sugg is that :clue
cobalt pewter
weirdo
small timber
they agree stealth is not the best name, but also don't find a reason to bother with the hassle of changing it
the hassle outweights the benefit of the change since the benefit is like literally only for flavour
fervent orbit
ok wat is going on now
glass arch
would it make thematic sense? yeah probably but its way too much work to update every. single. tooltip.
fervent orbit
i see stealth coming up and that just brings trouble
small timber
i see stealth coming up and that just brings trouble
tldr something something renaming stealth
cobalt pewter
I am the harbinger of chaos
glass arch
its a discussion on should it be renamed or not
cobalt pewter
wait let's see if I can send a gif
austere cargo
well fair enough then
fervent orbit
ok thats cool, but if stealth is renamed not "rogue" related, wouldnt the class name be different too
glass arch
the discussion was mainly on if it should be renamed to focus or smth
austere cargo
focus is probably on flavor enough
glass arch
but theres also the problem of updating every tooltip
fervent orbit
i do like the name focus more because ur not becoming more stealthy really
ur not getting minus aggro
austere cargo
yes I get the point about tooltips
glass arch
its more work than is necessary, if there was a full overhaul/rework of the system it could be changed but this scale of change (even if its only flavor) is too much work to just be done randomly
small timber
well no fundamental change, yet
cobalt pewter
fair enough
crude geode
Have there been any updates on that since the dev catastrophe
small timber
they are waiting for 1.4.4 basically
fervent orbit
they are
small timber
and since 1.4.4 tmod is still work in progress so
fervent orbit
the new recipe changes literally include ash wood
fervent orbit
just realized that ash wood seems to replace lava buckets in crafting recipes (currently only 2, hellwing staff and cinder blossom staff)
rain jewel
i see stealth coming up and that just brings trouble
Stealth is garbage tho, ranger is much better
grim tusk
#suggestions-posting message
@hearty yew aint this done already?
grim tusk
Stealth is garbage tho, ranger is much better
I’d argue the opposite, each class has its learning curve and thus the reason stealth might not be as good for you
grim tusk
i do like the name focus more because ur not becoming more stealthy really
Yea out of the best things to rename stealth. Focus seems to be it
hearty yew
https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/699359022364491868/1061780282375...
No. Neither part of that functions correctly. Same reason that it seems that the hell lab is flooded with water instead of having lava.
I'd argue it is a bug, not a suggestion
grim tusk
@sick musk ^
cobalt pewter
~~I’d argue the opposite, each class has its learning curve and thus the reason ...
man went with the polite "skill issue" path
sick musk
Ahh makes sense
grim tusk
Every class has their strengths but stealth is definetely not garbage lol
small timber
oh right shade since you are here
I think shield of the ocean's bonus with victide armor is currently not working (tried both in and out of water)
too lazy to submit a full bug report since I have to post full log file and turn off mods
fervent orbit
~~I’d argue the opposite, each class has its learning curve and thus the reason ...
he was quoting someone who was a blind idiot
swift wharf
subclass suggestion...
grim tusk
But done right
(Likely wont pass but the sugg is not invalid)
But there is post-OD sentries
Albeit not on cosmilite or auric tiers
small timber
ah yes of course the classic "sentry summoner gear" suggestion
on to-do and will be implemented soon™️
(with how Memes is planning to completely gut sentries damage output I doubt sentry based gear will be remotely useful unless they have effect that revert damage to pre-nerf version at the expense of minion slot)
grim tusk
Since old as fuck I dont mind a new sugg
swift wharf
almost one year
grim tusk
Esp cuz whatever stuff was made for it was possibly scrapped
swift wharf
mid ass armor
grim tusk
Damage isnt everything
grim tusk
You cant kill boss if you’re dead
grim tusk
it also sucks for tanking
You need to invest into tank accs a bit more
swift wharf
or you could use the better tanking armor
grim tusk
Defense for the Bloodflare core
humble mural
sentry love :hooboo:
errant bobcat
They said that there’s no sentries post old duke, is it just me or does atlas munitions beacon count as a sentry even tho you can only summon one, or does it not use sentry slots?
grim tusk
Atlas munition should take slots lmao
The reason Perdition can only be summoned once is balance
(It was batshit insane)
errant bobcat
Yea, but imagine if you could pick up more than one, dual wields giant Gatling laser guns
Atlas munitions beacon is honestly really cool, I’m glad u guys added it and nano gun
grim tusk
I do not mind having more Atlas munition beacons, as long as you can actually use sentries reliably and it gets a hefty nerf to compensate
More perditions is no
errant bobcat
I do not mind having more Atlas munition beacons, as long as you can actually us...
Yea, but would you only be able to pick up more than one?
grim tusk
Yea, but would you only be able to pick up more than one?
I’d say no
One at a time
Once one ends you can pick another while its on cooldown
grim tusk
Balance + sprite issues lol
errant bobcat
It would be cool if it had recoil so you could use one of the ones ur holding as a Jetpack
grim tusk
Even if it could be balanced (by nerfing into the fucking ground), sprite issues would be 
errant bobcat
Which actually would work irl with a certain Russian gun
swift wharf
common xpc win
swift wharf
ambiguity question mark
is it 40% speed for 8 seconds
or 40% speed after taking damage for 8 seconds straight
small timber
After taking damage get 40% speed for 8 seconds
swift wharf
"Increases movement speed by 40% for 8 seconds after taking damage" would be better
(And yes I know the effect it just sounds ambiguous)
small timber
Yeah, I will try to reupload it later with updated file
swift wharf
btw wtf is this
drowsy plank
cirrus dress
gray nebula
yeah i just know it has it cuz when it got coded in i saw fab mention it
but the tooltip is just so bizzare no one probably would know that from reading it
drowsy plank
should be demystified like DSA was
drowsy plank
lmfao
small timber
The beetle one is because it is accurate
It actually reduce damage taken, rather than just give damage reduction
swift wharf
oh its not dr?
small timber
Yeah it is not
swift wharf
oh ok
small timber
Same with Solar Flare
swift wharf
oh fearmonger has it right
small timber
Or at the very least the "damage reduction" it provide do not show on stat meter, which should had been pretty accurate
swift wharf
"Increases movement speed by 40% for 8 seconds after taking damage" would be bet...
so you can do "taking damage increases movement speed by 40% for 8 seconds"
drowsy plank
i believe hallowed armor's duration is getting removed next update isnt it? instead just having a 30 second cooldown, but always having the buff while its up
small timber
Yeah I changed it for panic necklace
small timber
i believe hallowed armor's duration is getting removed next update isnt it? inst...
You mean vanilla or calamity?
drowsy plank
in vanilla
"Holy Protection buff no longer starts its cooldown immediately at the time the buff starts, but instead begins the 30 second cooldown when you activate the dodge."
small timber
Oh that one
swift wharf
I like how DSA could be fixed by just doing this
small timber
But yeah the activate only for 5 second is a calamity nerf
small timber
I like how DSA could be fixed by just doing this
I was hesitant to do this because Power Knowledge or whatever was a unique tooltip/flavour text for artifact items
swift wharf
That's fair
small timber
Ok if there are no other correction needed then I will repost it
(since I cant just change the file in the suggestion)
swift wharf
cant you use a Google sheets link
small timber
I could had but I accidently done in on excel and I am not on pc so
Let me see if I can transfer it to Google Sheet on phone
swift wharf
seems to be working
half imp
to go with sentry based armor an post ml sentries
a potential way to help balance them could be to have sentry armors reduce minion damage by a notable amount, and vice-versa for minion armors to sentries
drowsy plank
what if the sentry armor just had 0 minion slots lol
half imp
you still have accessories
you can get enough for a full ares exoskeleton on accessories alone
to make it so that it's the inverse of current summons (primarily minions while sentries are bonus damage), it makes sense to buff sentries and nerf minions when the armor is on
drowsy plank
i mean we dont do that for the OOA armors but i supposed that's because we like to pretend they dont exist unless they're incredibly good lmao
half imp
tbh
100% that should apply to OOA armors
6/8 OOA armor set bonuses are insane for sentries alone
explosive traps when they kill cultist and deus under MNL with testing loadouts
drowsy plank
im not really sure how you'd decrease minion damage considering it's all a single damage stat tbh but maybe you could give them negative minion slots or something?
half imp
that's possible too yea
but i'd imagine it wouldn't be impossible to reduce only minion damage, no clue how much backend that is
probably something akin to true melee, making sentries and minions summon subclasses
drowsy plank
me when we now have 3 types of minion damage like how there are like... 6 types of melee damage
half imp
yea
but really anything is better than what we have now for sentries especially after the last few patches have been murdering post-ml sentries
once cadaverous carrion is balanced for minion summoner sentry-focused options are dead
! as a bonus, multiclass armors like fearmonger could be used for both sentries and minions, giving fearmonger and gem tech a bit more of a niche
with less boosts for both ofc
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half imp
Gamer
austere cargo
speaking of inconsistencies, I remember some items being inconsistent about "submerged in liquid". Some worked in honey while others didn't.
open gale
idk i just have always loved sentries, and a wish they got more love in this mod. Thorium makes them a useful subclass and i think the calamity devs could something really interesting if they put their minds to it.
glass arch
sentries just kinda exist in calamity
half imp
yeah
explosive traps for cultist, ravager, and deus is the most fun I've ever had with summoner class
it's unfortunate there's not really any similar options for the rest of the game
hollow shell
Do the lower tier explosive traps not cut it
(not a counterargument I'm just curious)
half imp
they don't have red riding armor
frosty trellis
None of the lower tier sentries are good (besides maybe t1 ballista) iirc
glass arch
is dreadmine similar to explosive traps
hollow shell
they don't have red riding armor
A fair point
half imp
red riding armor makes explosive traps attack speed 0.5s instead of 1.5s
singlehandedly makes it viable
hollow shell
is dreadmine similar to explosive traps
No they function completely differently
And yeah wow
half imp
I haven't tried the lower tier explosive traps but I don't expect tier 1 to be good at all
Tier 2 with armor maybe
1s cooldown instead of 1.5 is still a great DPS increase
half imp
None of the lower tier sentries are good (besides maybe t1 ballista) iirc
you told me explosive traps were probably not good too smh
frosty trellis
(Lighting Aura, despite ignoring defense, is absolutely worthless and does like 200 DPS at tier 3)
half imp
mfw it doesn't also ignore DR
frosty trellis
you told me explosive traps were probably not good too smh
Well lighting aura and ballistas I tried out
half imp
Oh nice
half imp
the fact lightning aura still sucks with one of the best set bonuses in the game is really a sentry moment
half imp
25% crit and ~18% fire rate, plus ~50% more range with Shinobi
half imp
Was doing like, 90 DPS to Calclone with t2
lol
frosty trellis
No
frosty trellis
9k DPS would make it semi decent
frosty trellis
Yeah
half imp
Do the lower tier explosive traps not cut it
at least on destroyer t2 does but that IS destroyer
(testing loadout)
on other's it's less crazy
grim tusk
((fall speed increase and movespeed decrease by 20%)
A perfect way to nerf Flamsteed ring if needed, thank you Iban
(I still wonder how the fuck it gets infinite stealth strikes though)
grim tusk
at least on destroyer t2 does but that IS destroyer
Destroyer moment, also #1042197406776827914
#suggestions-voting message idk why didnt mentioned anything about this sugg but:
Nucleo is basically its components’ effects but with more damage
Nanotech is Moonstone Crown reskin with better speed and damage + Raider’s talisman + Electrician’s Glove and some slight dmg cuz it uses emblem
half imp
yeah nucleo is definitely just it's components
it's not really even more damage when you consider papyrus scarab is in the tree
It's just more damage than curse gives
grim tusk
You ok bud? You’ve been typing for about 5 minutes
blazing kettle
i'm trying ti find the right fucking wird to describe something
grim tusk
How so?
blazing kettle
(I still wonder how the fuck it gets infinite stealth strikes though)
a dumb theory but maybe its the game is getting confused thinking that the mech is actually not the player? like it does the mechs attack but it forgets to take away stealth from the player as the mech is a seperate entity?
i was trying to figure out how to follow up from the question to explain what i meant
grim tusk
Possible explanation
fossil finch
A perfect way to nerf Flamsteed ring if needed, thank you Iban
y would you ever need to nerf a dev weapon
also never fix infi stealth either it is pretty fun
grim tusk
y would you ever need to nerf a dev weapon
BR(uh) moment
fossil finch
it is a dev weapon
fossil finch
there is no reasonable reason to nerf it
i guess bossrush is a thing but bossrush is cringe
they probably shouldnt have
you see, they are completely end game weapons
and theyre gonna be after yharim and after noxus and after xeroc as they get added
i dont see why would you ever nerf them
theyre allowed ti be powerfantasies
drowsy plank
https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/1060820918563...
it was mentioned but i pointed out that they technically have things unique to them, but id easily say they need it too if it passes, i just didnt want to overstep with it
i think the three i soloed out needed it more was all
drowsy plank
@prime quest those are placeholders, if you were to check the changelogs, this is already planned, we just need... you know. someone to actually sprite them.
furthermore i believe they were holding off on these until the craig/sunken sea reworks respectively
cobalt pewter
craig the biome
drowsy plank
lmao whoops
grim tusk
Craig
crude geode
Craig boss when
crude geode
a lot
fossil finch
Profaned Craig's
drowsy plank
craig is brimmy's roommate
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atomic shell
glass arch
fossil finch
Are you joking
distant gyro
ender average twitter stalker
fossil finch
It made quite the round
I wasn't stalking Twitter anyway
Someone else posted it before me
AND my first point was going to be mocking feed for thinking digger would ever be removed
Not the twit
half imp
for the record
you can still face tank with titanium melee
I did it vs rev mode planters as true melee with fetid baghnakhs
however I agree, at least all the non-melee helmets should have something different
bc the set bonus now is awesome for true melee but not great for any other class
drowsy plank
just keep the shard part and add some other effect for people who want to attack from further away
little falcon
Hello guys. I used the search and saw that this topic was of interest to many, but due to poor knowledge of english, i still had a question. How does the master mod affect the calamity mode? So it increases the difficulty by the level of revenge? If yes, what is more difficult master or revenge and does it make sense to use them together?
small timber
Hello guys. I used the search and saw that this topic was of interest to many, b...
things have (around) +50% HP and damage and thats all
compare to Expert Revengeance
this include both bosses and normal enemies
(and you start with +1 accessory from master mode, but you still have max 7 and the Moon Lord one do not give any bonus)
master and revengeance/death just stacks
little falcon
Thank for detailed answer.
ruby plover
i think you could probably save the effort and note write big attachments for these suggestions lol
99% of people likely ain't gonna read it
i think verbosity in this context isnt as necessary as you'd think
small timber
the attachment mainly is for dev use (if the suggestion get enough votes), like the one with wording inconsistency will be unviable if I dont have the attachment
but yeah I do agree I need to summarize on the suggestion itself to be less wordy
Titanium Armor
oblique crow
Would an arena builder item that can be customized be too hard to make? I have some good ideas for a really nice qol arena builder item
devout spade
is there a list of all compatible mods with calamity? i want to do a massive playthrough 👀
blazing kettle
Would an arena builder item that can be customized be too hard to make? I have s...
its not hard to make, its just unessacary
use luiafk or fargos mutant for a arena builder
oblique crow
Ita just a cool idea born of sleep deprivation
Well like, you would be able to create arena presets and have like 20 saves universally.
Im too tired to explain ill do it later
And yeah insta bridges are amazing
errant wren
Well like, you would be able to create arena presets and have like 20 saves univ...
i think that would fall under category of "an entire other mod" but i think i know exactly what you're thinking with that
small timber
yeah you have a lot of other mods that helps with arena building
crude geode
Well like, you would be able to create arena presets and have like 20 saves univ...
Cheat sheet
small timber
ideally calamity is going for the more "intuitive/natural" way, like having naturally generated arenas or things like higher block placement/mining speed (from gears etc)
drowsy plank
im very confused about what ur even talking about. just use cheat sheet, fargos, or infernum with its prebuilt arenas for some bosses lmao
drowsy plank
true!!!
blazing kettle
i mean just make the arena yourself
drowsy plank
i think he meant the arena but also like. mods exist for this u dont even need to lmfao
like the three i just listed
oblique crow
Well yeah
I know
Im sleep deprived so its hard to explain but its like an arena builder that combines the ways other mods and improves on it.
Maybe ill learn to code idk
blazing kettle
go the fuck to sleep
oblique crow
Its a cool idea
blazing kettle
im concerned for your health
drowsy plank
blazing kettle
not even coc is worth getting sleep deprived over
oblique crow
Well currently I havent slept foe about 30 somethin hours, but ive pulled triple all nighters b4 so tbis aint too bad.
tranquil echo
if this breaks any of the rules, I am sincerly sorry for that, I only read 50% of it(I read it fully, but only remember like 50%) just tell me, and I will find a sollution that will solve both our problems
cobalt pewter
@hollow shell uh
swift wharf
isn't this a don't
crude geode
isn't this a don't
Yep
vagrant spindle
Remove earth ele I think
never
swift wharf
MR BEA
crude geode
Bean
vagrant spindle
thin hill
what if we removed hote
I say yes to this
crude geode
HotE is a neat concept for a combination accessory but also the elementals are just bad in general
thin hill
remove women
crude geode
least biased joke suggestor
vagrant spindle
who says im joking
thin hill
granite elemental tho
crude geode
Anyways earth elemental. largely has no reason to exist tbfh
crude geode
No one deserves anything
vagrant spindle
i deserve everything
fossil finch
Earthele surely doesn't
crude geode
Especially with armored digger getting reworked I see earth ele losing his purpose
Of being a generic miniboss in early Hm
crude geode
devplans.png
inner anvil
We're still not sure yet, plans may change, but that was the last mention of him: "We could resprite him and have a better purpose".
crude geode
glad to see those plans are rock solid
rain jewel
I expected an aureus nerf sugg
small timber
meanwhile in purgatory land great sand shark
inner anvil
That's not true.
crude geode
Everything’s just in purgatory land
inner anvil
Not really.
crude geode
bc the mod is
rain jewel
@inner anvil are joke videos also memes if they didnt get edited?
inner anvil
What do you mean? I'm missing context.
crude geode
So true king
inner anvil
rain jewel
Wtf
warm crypt
There's an overthrow that's about to happen here. Watch out.
rain jewel
Wat
flat night
ghalax and garbo
crude geode
I love cbt
dry vector
(Rework and resprite).
🤯
crude geode
Pretty much
dry vector
wtf is gss
crude geode
exactly
rain jewel
Shark
crude geode
Great sand shark
dry vector
oh
rain jewel
We have umm, 5 sharks
dry vector
none of them are bosses 💢
dry vector
pigron
swift wharf
fishron
swift wharf
oh really
warm crypt
It does.
swift wharf
what makes you say that
dry vector
color
warm crypt
It even has a similar shape to Duke Fishron. Just with the slim design of the dolphin.
dry vector
you dont see this on the sdfmg right
red stormBOT
sullen swan
see for ur self
warm crypt
you dont see this on the sdfmg right
That's a Sharkron.
sullen swan
fetid emesis is just boomerfish with a straw
whole tundra
#suggestions-voting message Makes sense as why kill golem if you can skip to Lunatic Cultist
half imp
not being able to use Sigil without killing golem has been incredibly annoying for me
since i do minimum bosses runs
but i just use toasty's mod moon lord spawner to bypass that
rain jewel
I wanted to farm moon lord in low% but even after killing him I couldnt summon him 😭
half imp
yeah
grave zincBOT
@whole kelp - Your suggestion has received an updated status!
[Make it so you can write on the Laboratory Screens]
It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message
glass arch
distant gyro
if you wire it then it duals function as an announcement box
drowsy plank
@lapis gyro #suggestions-voting message
small timber
@sly peak you cannot suggest things that haven't happen yet
the mod is not yet finished, it is pointless to suggest something that is so far away
small timber
yes
hollow shell
You can change it to instead suggest that we do a dedicated map with the content we currently have
And it'd be valid
small timber
yeah
hollow shell
(though most likely won't get accepted)
small timber
(abit grand scale, but it is probably valid?)
hollow shell
Ah hm yeah if it's an official map that might be too grand scale
sly peak
i will repost later like i don't really thinks they will just start a random maps for the mods when the mods himself is not finish and yes probally to grand scale but i was just like it's good idea and have good reason but you have right
hollow shell
Alright
small timber
currently there is not much reason for it to have a dedicated map
lapis gyro
does red mean the suggestion has been denied
small timber
yes
frail mantle
always an option
ruby plover
to be completely honest, the accessory has little to no useability outside of pre-boss anyway
it, along with the other wulfrum stuff, is a nice pre-boss bunch of gear
and anyway, pre-boss accessories that you would put instead of acrobatics pack would likely be better than acrobatics pack anyway 
thorn dock
you dont see this on the sdfmg right
oh damn I m getting a idea ... kinda similiar to clams that attach but with horny dolphins
thorn dock
attaching to an enemy could give the wet debuff ... attaching to an enemy/the player could drop a heart every X seconds of the dolphin beeing attached
thorn dock
attaching to an enemy could give the wet debuff ... attaching to an enemy/the pl...
well attached to the player should also give wet state🤔
thorn dock
😡
swift wharf
skill issue suggestion
remove what makes the accessory fun to use and make it a hook
!!!!!!!
small timber
why make new calamity hooks when there are several (too many) there that are just not good
just buff them instead
but yeah I think the main argument is actually that acrobatic hook is just... not very good, for all scenarios
it is fun to play around but it dont really become good
but yeah while it was denied (and the reasoning of this particular suggestion is super weak), I actually agree with the suggestion
if the accessory changes every single hook to behave in the exact same way and have the same stat, it effectively is just a hook that take an accessory slot
and at that point why is it not a hook instead when it makes your hook irrelevant by setting their behavior to the exact same
in fact you dont even have to have a hook equip to use the accessory, which makes it even more of a hook that take a slot
the argument is that it have another function of "grappling to nearby walls" and increased movement speed which can be hard to execute on a non-accessory I guess
cobalt pewter
it's iban item™
cobalt pewter
personally I wouldn't mind if it takes the stats of the currently equipped hook if any is equipped
swift wharf
also it's a pre-game item.......
cobalt pewter
let us use the acrobatics pack with bobbit
whee
I think the issue to me is that this is made for pre-game while the majority of underground / cavern layers do not have big enough space to utilize this well
if it's a post-evils item where you're intended to explore the hell it'd probably have better use considering hell gets to utilize the hook better
crude geode
I love referring to pre-boss as pre-game
small timber
it definitely have use for early exploration since it basically prevent fall damage in every scenario but gravitation potion
cobalt pewter
that's just all hooks
small timber
if only calamity dont make horseshoe craftable with like 6 gold bar
small timber
that's just all hooks
no acrobatic pack automatically does it if you are about to take fall damage
cobalt pewter
I mean unless you're actually very fucking bad you can just use the hook tech without much additional effort
the acrobatics pack is advertised as something zany
small timber
you know, the advantage of actual fall damage immunity and doing it with a hook is that... you dont have to use the hook you know
traversing a cavern by hooking to walls or ceiling every 5 seconds is a lot slower than just fall down without care all the time, and acrobatic pack's simple crafting recipe is enough to justify getting it early
just yeah, because it changes every hook to the same I still dont think it really fit as an accessory instead of a hook
cobalt pewter
also you're saying that it has niche pre-game because of its convenience thing
it doesn't address the hook being completely useless early game
small timber
which is why it should be a hook instead of an accessory
at least as a hook it have a niche pre-boss, if it is an accessory it will just be even more useless once you get some good hooks
most wulfrum items are basically niche early game (pre-boss) item, just I think acrobatic pack being an accessory just dump it down even more, there is close to no reason to use acrobatic pack over using a horseshoe balloon (which with crafting recipe is really easy to make)
as a hook at least you can justify equipping another useful accessory and have your hook handle fall damage immunity and the swing mechanic is occassionally useful, but as an accessory it just get outclass very soon
is it still a very niche use? yes; but at least it is better than right now
swift wharf
I love referring to pre-boss as pre-game <:taxevasion:611637175381000193>
same thing p much
anyways I think it's fine for it to be an acc
its meant to be replaced by something better
and you could say that the horseshoe recipe is way too easy
cobalt pewter
didn't relogic yeet horseshoe back to the skies
crude geode
Yep
cobalt pewter
I feel like it'd be better to make horseshoe use sunplate just like aerialite stuff in the next update
maybe some pearls as well since it has luck stat and clams drop them next update
small timber
or just make it use skymill
you can get calcium potion relatively easy with some effort anyway, it is pointless to progression lock it, just have to make sure the player have to at least explore the sky islands
cobalt pewter
yeah that's the idea
sky mill or sunplate doesn't make much of a difference considering both can actually be crafted without going up the skies
small timber
I feel like it'd be better to make horseshoe use sunplate just like aerialite st...
oh I misred it as "make it use aerialite bar"
cobalt pewter
god
crude geode
I mean doesn’t that kinda make. calcium potions useless
small timber
calcium potion is still useful when you dont want to use lucky horseshoe
(abit worse since the argument was bundle of balloon didnt have horseshoe, but now that it has so)
crude geode
I mean when tf do you not use just a horseshoe balloon prehm
frozen hornet
I'm pretty sure 1.4.4 has a horsehoe bundle
cobalt pewter
calcium potion costs 20 silver from skelly merchant and lasts 20 mins afaik
small timber
it used to be a major case since using horseshoe balloon means you have to recraft for bundle
frozen hornet
oops didn't see that
small timber
but ya bundle has horseshoe in 1.4.4 now
cobalt pewter
I mean when tf do you not use just a horseshoe balloon prehm
bundle is post hive mind / perfs in cal now no?
frozen hornet
yes
cobalt pewter
ah
small timber
no deleting calcium just means you are hardlock into using balloon
it is the glass cannon argument again, but to me it is the equivalent of deleting gravity normalizer and tell people not to build in space
crude geode
Feather fall potions when they’re forgotten about for the 100th time
celest tundra
They should resprite calcium potion to be milk
small timber
feather fall also have an effect that is not fall damage immunity so
crude geode
indeed, giving them a better point of existence than calcium potions which you use for two seconds
Unless you really want to make it so you take fall damage with them
cobalt pewter
They should resprite calcium potion to be milk
[[tgc:Carton of Milk]]
red stormBOT
crude geode
I just. really don’t see the purpose of Calcium potion outside of justifying another dumb calamity addition
(ancient bone dust)
cobalt pewter
honestly the biggest deal breaker with Ancient Bone Dust is that it's not actually fucking capable of being Bone
which is incredibly funny
crude geode
Indeed
and that all of it’s crafts except for calcium need bones (or a future material like essence of sunlight) anyways
Making it largely just. a material to be a material
cobalt pewter
half of its recipes already had bones anyways yea
and Flask of Crumbling might as well use bones and no one will bat an eye
crude geode
100%
I absolutely don’t see the logic behind either one when other options exist in both potion and accessory form (Wulfrum acrobatic pack/horseshoe, and feather fall/gravitation)
cobalt pewter
acrobatics / horseshoe / literally any hook*
but yeah
if Calcium Potion is gone, Ancient Bone Dust suddenly has no use anymore
delete it
then replace it in Crumbling Flask with Bone and Armor Polish with some kinda metal since there's an actual metal as a container for the polish
crude geode
Yo iron’s 500th use lesgo
cobalt pewter
be the change you wanna see in the world and make it use silver instead
crude geode
Silver/Tungsten? What a concept
crude geode
Funny “we did it first so we’re keeping it in”
Also speaking of useless bone ash can we delete demonic bone ash
cobalt pewter
lemme check that one
crude geode
There’s one real thing it does
cobalt pewter
oh boi
crude geode
and that’s lock etomer behind a visit to hell
cobalt pewter
yeah this item is kinda scuffed
crude geode
For real
It’s there for theming but also it’s theming sucks when armored digger drops it
Baffling decision
cobalt pewter
true
chrome wyvern
if Calcium Potion is gone, Ancient Bone Dust suddenly has no use anymore
simply remove ancient bone dust 
crude geode
Indeed
Arguably blighted gel falls under that
Though I blame that on slime god (and it’s associated enemies) kinda being lame
cobalt pewter
slime god when it
crude geode
when it
errant bobcat
Yea I feel like blighted gel is literally just there to craft the summon. All the rest of its recipes it can be replaced with regular gel purified gel or pink gel
Also it would be cool if the slimes from qslime boss fight appeared in the hallow outside of her boss fight
cobalt pewter
just gel and evil biome materials would be fine with current slime gods theming
rain jewel
Man Titanium really needs a buff that thing is awful
rain jewel
Yes
flat night
set bonus never getting used 
drowsy plank
it stats are also trash so it really just has no niche whatsoever rn
flat night
maybe if the projectiles actually shot out or built up without needing to deal damage
I just realise half of what I said is the one in suggestion voting
half imp
titanium armor's one use is to face tank plantera with fetid baghnakhs
rain jewel
Its not even good for true melee
swift wharf
janity sets.......;.;.;.;.;.;
fossil finch
I don't think a good enough reason is provided for this
drowsy plank
what about ultrabright helmet 
drowsy plank
yeah fair, i guess... night vision helmet??? lmao
drowsy plank
frankly id rather have these armor pieces have full sets than to add more single piece armor sets bc it makes it really weird to actually use them cause the pieces basically need to be as strong as an armor set bonus alone which makes it really weird for balancing
crude geode
^
small timber
and also a lot of these are just meme items rather than an actual armor set
moon lord's leg is seed specific, djinn curse is like, useless and will be pointless to be part of an armor set
and cirrus dress is basically an accessory in chestpiece slot so (and you can kinda mix like magic hat to it but yeah)
crude geode
djinn's curse is literally just featherfall in hardmode. where you get wings.
drowsy plank
it's very funny how djinn's curse isnt even on the armor list on the vanilla wiki
crude geode
funny
drowsy plank
i will say while moon lord's legs are seed specific they are a very good item so i wouldnt mind if they were addressed somehow, even if they were just intended to be a meme. and cirrus's dress had to be nerfed so i dont think it's an exaggeration to say that it might be worth addressing these items in some capacity
crude geode
cirrus' dress had to be nerfed because alcohols don't have fucking downsides
in terms of the downsides inherent to each one
or does it get rid of those too
drowsy plank
this is true but the fact an item exists that just lets you spam them regardless and people are willing to give up their set bonus to do so still points to a possible balancing problem at some point
also no cirrus only removes alcohol poisioning which is just the punishment for having more than 3 active
or is it exactly 3 that it procs
idr
ok it's more than 3
small timber
Cirrus dress is already nerfed
Moon lord's leg dont have to be because at max it is just a high movement speed + a frog leg on legging so it will be good for preHM but it is whatever
In HM you have to sacrifice your set bonus for it
And of course it is specific seed, like drunk (who plays this) and getfixedboi (lmao)
@hollow shell #suggestions-voting message sorry for late ping but I think a dev mentioned that this is a bug (somewhere yesterday)? And I had something about desert overriding colour of sunken sea water is fixed next patch but I dont know where
small timber
I'd argue it is a bug, not a suggestion
Oh here
small timber
So the lava gen is bugged and piss water is fixed
drowsy plank
a double pointless suggestion 😎
small timber
And also I am not even sure if it is bugged
If your sunken sea generate deep enough in cavern it will just have lava unless the next patch change that
drowsy plank
i think the request is to have it remove the lava but like, u know, it can just flow into it bc that's how liquids work in terraria
frosty trellis
Moon lord's leg dont have to be because at max it is just a high movement speed ...
Drunk seed is used by low% players atm to get pre-boss wires
small timber
Drunk seed is used by low% players atm to get pre-boss wires
Totally something the average player will do
Cross world too
frosty trellis
Drunk seed is used by low% players atm to get pre-boss wires
Although that will change next update to people using ftw since odds are that the hm ores in crates pre Mechs aren't going to be a thing anymore, so ftw is used
frosty trellis
Cross world too
No low% is only one world
frosty trellis
Totally something the average player will do <:XD:936106628833488906>
You said no one plays drunk 
I was just saying there are a select few who do
small timber
So the only people playing drunk is a bunch of people doing challenges
drowsy plank
plus im imagining a non-insignificant portion of the playerbase is gonna try and smack their heads into GFB so idk it's something to consider
frosty trellis
The only people playing ftw is a bunch of people doing challenges
small timber
And funnily enough because low% is definitely world based I am not even sure if that counts
Like having ftw on or ore rework on/off or not changes how many bosses you have to kill
So you have drunk low% and normal low% or whatever
drowsy plank
i remember back when horseshoes first got moved to gold chests i suggested putting moon lord legs in sky chests lol
frosty trellis
I mean next update it's ftw for low% and we found a way to skip Yharon
small timber
Put moon lord's leg in sky island shrine
frosty trellis
LOL
drowsy plank
honestly id be up for it
frosty trellis
~~I mean next update it's ftw for low% and we found a way to skip Yharon~~
The Yharon skip works in all worlds, just need the ftw hardmode ore planetoids
small timber
~~I mean next update it's ftw for low% and we found a way to skip Yharon~~
Which is why it is arbitrary
Because if you try to do that in non-ftw it just doesnt work
So you still have ftw low% and normal low% and it is still workd based
drowsy plank
make moon lord leggings an accessory
frosty trellis
Which is why it is arbitrary
Because if you try to do that in non-ftw it just d...
It does so long as you're in expert mode
small timber
~~The Yharon skip works in all worlds, just need the ftw hardmode ore planetoids...
What do they shimmer this time?
frosty trellis
Fab is fine with it
drowsy plank
fab said it was so out of the way and pointless he didnt care i think
frosty trellis
Ye
drowsy plank
the only ones they care about are ones the average player is going to find
frosty trellis
We also managed to figure out a way to skip plantera, but we will keep that shelved for now
small timber
Cna you even craft exo and scal summon without cosmic anvil or you just have to kill dog
frosty trellis
You need DoG bc Anvil
frail mantle
yea cooling cell and the altar both need the anvil
frosty trellis
Cooling cell also need endothermic Energy
small timber
I mean low% is basically like, get a viable weapon and nohit the boss
small timber
Oh right ftw is not required you just have to have shimmer
wait I forgot you can craft
small timber
"I can place platform"
(No arena actually hurts way more than no crafting, you can fix surprising amount of lack of gear with just good arena and setups)
small timber
I had that one fucking palladium ore in my plantera tunnel that killed me at least 30 times because everytime I tried to focus on dodging I bumped into it and die
frosty trellis
Bruhhhhhh
small timber
This singular block had caused me so much pain
But yeah back to suggestion tldr all 3 of those are meme items so like really
They dont have to be an armor set
The only one close to legit is the gem robe + hat one and magic hat + mystic robe
crude geode
it was in fact so legit it had to be nerfed
serene tendon
So the only people playing drunk is a bunch of people doing challenges
No? We drunk world players genuinely think said worlds give more benefits and are just more fun.
small timber
No? We drunk world players genuinely think said worlds give more benefits and ar...
The context was "whether moon lord's leg have to be nerfed"
Compare to the majority of player who play seedless I think I can confidently say that drunk world player made up very little %, let alone low% challenge player
frosty trellis
I just use Fargo's best of both worlds to get the drunk seed features I like and exclude the ones I don't
serene tendon
The context was "whether moon lord's leg have to be nerfed"
Compare to the majo...
And I can confirm they do not break the game. You literally cannot get set bonuses while wearing it, which is even worse in Cal, it just makes the earlygame just that bit better
crude geode
moon lord's legs just being brought up is a joke
glass arch
the legs are funny
small timber
It is legit an extremely good preHM item
glass arch
but i also never use it bc lol lmao
crude geode
^
most cal players experience with it
small timber
Is it worth nerfing? Probably no
If it is everywhere sure, the fact that it is specific seed makes me think to just left it be
glass arch
ive used it a couple times in vanilla but i just dont do drunk worlds as often anymore
serene tendon
It is legit an extremely good preHM item
For exploration and mining, yes, but not for bosses.
small timber
Now someone will make a suggestion be like "Make Moon Lord's Leg Craftable" and then something something shotgun is prepared
small timber
For exploration and mining, yes, but not for bosses.
No it is definitely good for bosses, high MS and basically frog leg is extremely good
Especially preHM mage with robe + hat
Just yeah, specific seed thing
serene tendon
359 - Reduced Empress Wings flight time from 2.5 seconds to 1.67 seconds. - Done
Bruh, it was arguably worse than fishron wings to begin with. What's next, a Fishron Wings nerf?
crude geode
it's laughable that it's brought up as comparable to cirrus dress, something that is available on all worlds and not just a specific seed that a low percentage of players PLAY
serene tendon
No it is definitely good for bosses, high MS and basically frog leg is extremely...
Well yes, with that particular set it would be very good. However most of the time you have to sacrifice a set bonus, which is almost never worth it
small timber
Most of PreHM set bonus is pretty shit anyway that you probably get more form minmaxing armor parts (like gi + other things), the speed often or not is worth not having a set bonus on anything except stealth rogue, summoner and molten armor
cobalt pewter
average drunk world player vs average remix enjoyer
small timber
Ore armors are good but most of the set bonus themselves are only like ok (got nerfed hard), their power are from armor piece stats
small timber
359 - Reduced Empress Wings flight time from 2.5 seconds to 1.67 seconds. - Done...
Empress wing's upward boost active/jetpack function is completely insane which might be why
rain jewel
Most of PreHM set bonus is pretty shit anyway that you probably get more form mi...
Wouldnt say most
small timber
Wouldnt say most
Which preHM set bonus are like, extremely good to the point that sacrificing them for mixed pieces is not even a consideration (other than the ines I mentioned: stealth rogue, summoner, molten armor)
I dont mean just ok set bonus, but more that it is so good that it is not even a consideration/option
Statigel I guess but it comes pretty late
(I dont mean to be rude, but more that I actually dont remember much that will be like "no argument, you keep the set bonus no matter what")
rain jewel
Tin or copper are insane with minishark, silver armor is amazing tank, crim armor is good hp regen and damage. Molten is great for true melee.
And I dont remember what else
Platinum seems good but I never used it
Aerialite has some good bonuses, but now that fledging wings exist its not that needed
But it gives speed
I dont remember what necro had as set bonus but its good armor
Victide is made for aquatic exploration, so mostly to fight the giant clam
They are situational
small timber
Oh right tin and silver just have better set bonus than platinum and gold for some reason
drowsy plank
I dont remember what necro had as set bonus but its good armor
necro's set bonus sucks ass
rain jewel
Yeah I checked
drowsy plank
platinum's set bonus is fine im pretty sure, but gold's is Not That Great
rain jewel
The fucking consume less ammo shit that all ranged vanilla has
drowsy plank
"Every 15 defense grants +1 life regen and 1% increased critical strike chance, capping at 45 defense."
that is plat's
small timber
What I was original talking about was moon lord's leg + Gi + whatever high stat headpiece of your class (mage have the obvious choice of robe + hat)
drowsy plank
necro bonus is just 10% ranged crit now im p sure, and the pieces give 15% ranged damage total
rain jewel
Vanilla wiki says its +10% crit and 20% less ammo consumption
rain jewel
Fuck
drowsy plank
drowsy plank
necro could get a lot of things and id probably still just use aero and statigel
lmao
rain jewel
Make it shoot bones idk
Or I know
Since its necro
After you kill an enemy you gain a small bonus
serene tendon
average drunk world player vs average remix enjoyer
One problem with that: You can't play Remix with Cal, you can play Drunk with Cal
small timber
Gi is 5% damage and crit, 10% melee speed and movement speed so it is extremely good for a single piece set
serene tendon
Make it shoot bones idk
I had an idea where the set bonus would allow you to fire bones from any bow or gun, turning it into a star cannon of sorts in terms of usage
rain jewel
Old bone glove
serene tendon
Empress wing's upward boost active/jetpack function is completely insane which m...
I have not found that to be the case. In my experience horizontal mobility is way more important
than upwards
serene tendon
New bone glove no?
Like that, yes, but you use the stats of the bow/gun
Minishark means bone minigun
small timber
In that case I will describe it as "empress wing singlehandedly make vertical movement superior/on par to horizontal"
Just because its boost is so ridiculous
But yeah, it is nerfed anyway probably to put it more in line considering it has jetpack effect
small timber
Minishark means bone minigun
Then it will just be armor pen all over again except potentially more broken
Cooldown had to be put on everything practically because of that
serene tendon
In that case I will describe it as "empress wing singlehandedly make vertical mo...
Ok, so what? Upwards vertical speed past a certain amount is almost useless
Simply due to how much space you have to work with
Even on large worlds space chokes the effectiveness of upwards momentum
small timber
Then empress wing is useless to you anyway so just let it be nerfed
serene tendon
Then it will just be armor pen all over again except potentially more broken
What do you mean? It'd just be a higher damage ammo that is harder to obtain in large amounts
Like the Star Cannon but scaled back a bit
serene tendon
Then empress wing is useless to you anyway so just let it be nerfed
Empress Wings are underpowered, nerfing them seems unfair
frosty trellis
(Rarity justifying power is bs)
small timber
Like the Star Cannon but scaled back a bit
If it shoots bone it will override the property of the weapon
So everything will just purely scale with the speed of the weapon
So just like armor pen
serene tendon
If it shoots bone it will override the property of the weapon
So everything wil...
You're saying that since suddenly most of the power comes from the ammo, rapid-fire guns would be objectively better?
small timber
And if it is basically high base damage ammo it is again, basically armor pen, because you are making all your gun dealing a higher base damage than the supposedly highest tier ammo of the progression
small timber
You're saying that since suddenly most of the power comes from the ammo, rapid-f...
Of course it will be better
serene tendon
That could be worked around
small timber
This is overexaggerated, but if you put god slayer slug in preHM undertaker will 100% better than musket
Ok that is a shit example, more like minishark vs that perforator sniper
serene tendon
And if it is basically high base damage ammo it is again, basically armor pen, b...
What if the range before the bones fall increases with base damage? Minishark would have a short range but higher damage
small timber
I wanted to use that example but I forgot the name, eviscerator or something
serene tendon
Ok that is a shit example, more like minishark vs that perforator sniper
No, the example is fine, I understand
small timber
What if the range before the bones fall increases with base damage? Minishark wo...
Then it will just be another layer of ammo balancing headache that ranger have to deal with
(Aka the armor will probably also be viable on random HM even post-ML gun that shoots often/have specific property)
There is a reason that class wide alteration effect like this is rare (looking at luminite arrow, holy fire bullet and so on)
small timber
Empress Wings are _underpowered_, nerfing them seems unfair
Mainly is because I dont know how to describe usefulness in "mobility option", like basically empress wing can allow you to dodge attack in completely different way/allow you to dodge using sudden movement/react compare to horizontal
Since burst speed of vertical tend to be much higher than horizontal, especially that empress wing can give that burst in mid-air
But yeah tldr I think empress wing was really overpowered but you dont have to agree with me (opinion exist), just imo empress wing nerf is justifiable
swift wharf
I had an idea where the set bonus would allow you to fire bones from any bow or ...
Oh shit that would be nice actually
Like make it consume bones
similar to wulfrum armor
lapis gyro
and anyway, pre-boss accessories that you would put instead of acrobatics pack w...
i just want it for the physics based hook
north oracle
so apparently with dazzling stabber staff when you take off armour or accessories to decrease your minion slots, the remaning stabbers don't reposition themselves to be centered
half imp
frankly id rather have these armor pieces have full sets than to add more single...
they don't need to be as strong alone, just have unique effects to make them a potential option if you are also interested in like, cirrus dress or moon lord legs
the point behind my suggestion is just to make the hodge-podge of solo armor pieces more complete by having a helmet
(i miss OSC as a helmet but i'm probably the only person to ever use it that way)
ruby plover
whar
blazing kettle
somebody gonna tell them?
blazing kettle
yeah
celest tundra
blazing kettle
@outer vortex literally #calamity-update-talk
drowsy plank
@outer vortex also server suggestions are a dont, they're supposed to be sent through mod mail but also like?????
lol
ruby plover
yes
outer vortex
mb
rain jewel
Also the description was just 7 words lol
drowsy plank
you should read the pins before posting
errant bobcat
Yes
outer vortex
Also the description was just 7 words lol
i hit enter by accident there was a paragraph
rain jewel
Ah
ruby plover
read the pins and also read the... channel... names
drowsy plank
hey i mean there's nothing wrong with short suggs but this is literally just something that already exists + it is against the rules lmao
rain jewel
I think you need to elabore a bit tho
outer vortex
its cuz theyve been posting resprites in #mod-announcements
outer vortex
I think you need to elabore a bit tho
i did
rain jewel
Yea
errant bobcat
Also how are resprites spoilers
rain jewel
That can be a spoiler why not
outer vortex
Also how are resprites spoilers
ik i shouldnt compare but most mods consider new or updated content as spoilers
ruby plover
well, its just a sprite
its not describing the intricacies of what it will do
outer vortex
i agree
ruby plover
theres plenty of room for your own interpratations and theories
outer vortex
its not a spoiler for me personally either
errant bobcat
theres *plenty* of room for your own interpratations and theories
Ye
outer vortex
but itd be nicer if not every resprite was considered a big announcement
ruby plover
but itd be nicer if not every resprite was considered a big announcement
people ain't gonna see it otherwise, really
and its not every resprite
rain jewel
The ones planned dont
ruby plover
its only major ones at this point
outer vortex
yea u guys are right
ruby plover
clam is a significant one, the labs are big reworks, and the armoured digger didnt just get a resprite, it got 3 forms
outer vortex
i deleted it anyway
rain jewel
Yeah shame on you hairy doggo, I hope you suffer forever
outer vortex
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swift wharf
no
versed cape
@half imp awesome suggestion
crude geode
I feel like cal has pretty established it's thoughts on OOA and related shit
in that it doesn't really care about them
not to say this suggestion is invalid
just that it's been done a hundred times and has passed like 5 times
half imp
in that it doesn't really care about them
which is unfortunate but also
if it doesn't wanna redo them, at least leave them functional like they would be in vanilla
crude geode
can you summon bosses during ooa?
frosty trellis
(That's also an extremely niche scenario and not something that should be considered)
half imp
there is some OOA cheese that already exists and it's much more extreme than anything that would come from summon damage penalty being gone during the event
frosty trellis
(Especially given the arena limitations you would need at that point).
half imp
especially if that only applies to OOA sentries
(me when etherian mana means I can summon 1000 explosive traps at once if I'm willing to grind)
crude geode
(That's also an extremely niche scenario and not something that should be consid...
this is probably the more reasonable response lmao
byeah this sugg is valid
half imp
overall I wish that sentries got more love in the mod but I doubt it'll happen soon
however this is the bare minimum of stuff to do for OOA
small timber
Pretty sure the suggestion was approved
Just havent been implemented after all these time (for some reason)
half imp
that was literally like the day I joined the server iirc LOL
placid moth
I meant the OOA event thing
crude geode
The summoner damaged Nerf is constant, not just in OOA
half imp
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