#suggestions-discussion | Calamity Mod Discord | Page 75

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 12:06 AM

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They do
But
They don't state who the dev for the item is LOL

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(Just checked shattered community to confirm)

flint notch Nov 22, 2022, 12:06 AM

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Wiki my savior

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 12:06 AM

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Scarlet Devil?

errant cloud Nov 22, 2022, 12:06 AM

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ye

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 12:06 AM

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That broken ass thing?

crude geode Nov 22, 2022, 12:07 AM

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so unless you check the wiki religiously for every dev item it's easy to forget

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 12:07 AM

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Pretty much

jagged zealot Nov 22, 2022, 12:07 AM

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Wait, so patreon items are no longer allowed to happen, right?

crude geode Nov 22, 2022, 12:07 AM

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likely not for years

flint notch Nov 22, 2022, 12:08 AM

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tbf its not really necessary to know WHO's dev item is which

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unless you're doinng suggs in which case-

errant cloud Nov 22, 2022, 12:09 AM

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the whole - developer item - label has kinda worn itself thin so really i think some kind of custom rarity text (like current) but with bg vfx + an animated sprite might do the job

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i hate referencing catalyst but like how catalyst did rarities

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what is it the uh, white sparkling text

crude geode Nov 22, 2022, 12:09 AM

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what's catalyst

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 12:11 AM

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Calamity addon mod

errant cloud Nov 22, 2022, 12:11 AM

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the execution is really not the part i'm good at, all i know is that there's better ways i guess these days with new tml lib stuff to let developer tier items stand out

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other than just [label] subtext

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or yknow, w.e it is

hollow shell Nov 22, 2022, 12:16 AM

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It's because there is a universal internal variable for being submerged in any Terraria liquid, and we just use that

And yeah the Wet debuff already has an enhancing effect to other debuff types
Adding it to the Water debuff list wouldn't actually do anything cuz Wet has no effect on its own

jagged zealot Nov 22, 2022, 12:19 AM

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hollow shell It's because there is a universal internal variable for being submerged in any T...

Oh, dang. Wait, does it affect ice debuffs?

Also, I thought a enhancing a debuff would already qualify? I guess not then.

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 12:23 AM

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I don't think it's really necessary to display dev items more fancier

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they already have custom rarities

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just read tooltips on god

cobalt pewter Nov 22, 2022, 12:26 AM

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wdym no one can read here :clueless:

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 12:26 AM

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not everything must be fancy auuuuuugh

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just the item itself is enough

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except that we can't change that because dedicated item

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anyways custom hage bar would be epic

restive atlas Nov 22, 2022, 12:46 AM

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If my Eldritch tome suggestion goes through by any chance I'd be happy to take a crack at spriting the whip segments

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 12:59 AM

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or just use shaders to make actual tentacles

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:06 AM

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frosty trellis They do But They don't state who the dev for the item is LOL

Ah okay, I see your point. You have to go to the wiki to know whose dev item is whose (same for donators). That is a valid point.

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:06 AM

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jagged zealot Wait, so patreon items are no longer allowed to happen, right?

Patron items have been closed for 2 years and we have no plans to reopen them.

jagged zealot Nov 22, 2022, 1:06 AM

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hearty yew Patron items have been closed for 2 years and we have no plans to reopen them.

Dang. It seems like everyone I know gots one

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:06 AM

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hollow shell It's because there is a universal internal variable for being submerged in any T...

Technically you can do wet && !lavaWet (stupidest name I know), but I forget how to check honey.

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:07 AM

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jagged zealot Dang. It seems like everyone I know gots one

Well I don't

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:07 AM

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swift wharf they already have custom rarities

Not all dev items have custom rarities, but almost all do.

errant cloud Nov 22, 2022, 1:07 AM

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jesus, ozz.

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LUL

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y'all turned the responsibility knob up to 12 by replying to everybody then broke it off

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mad lad

jagged zealot Nov 22, 2022, 1:11 AM

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hearty yew Well I don't

I thought you did?

errant cloud Nov 22, 2022, 1:12 AM

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(patron items are not always dev items and vice versa, iirc. someone can correct me on that if i'm wrong)

jagged zealot Nov 22, 2022, 1:13 AM

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I meant generally have a dev item.

I didn't know devs could do both

errant cloud Nov 22, 2022, 1:13 AM

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technically they used to be able to, i think?

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obviously patron items were made for people who paid money to fab ($40, iirc?), so if you were a dev and donated that amount, then i mean, yeah, you could add a patron weapon/item for yourself...?

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(i have no idea if devs are just able to add in weapons for themselves or where the technicalities on that stand but yea)

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:20 AM

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jagged zealot I meant generally have a dev item. I didn't know devs could do both

~~I don't think there are any current examples, but it is theoretically possible for someone to be a donator, get a donator item, then become a dev and get a dev item~~

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:21 AM

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jagged zealot I thought you did?

I have Shattered Community and Nanoblack Reaper, both dev items. I don't have a donator item, I have never given a dollar to Calamity.

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:21 AM

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errant cloud y'all turned the responsibility knob up to 12 by replying to everybody then brok...

Sorry, that's just what I do.

jagged zealot Nov 22, 2022, 1:21 AM

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I wish I did when patreon items were a thing

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Because I wanted a wing or vanity set

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:21 AM

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errant cloud (patron items are not always dev items and vice versa, iirc. someone can correct...

Both exist under the umbrella category of "Dedicated Items"

errant cloud Nov 22, 2022, 1:22 AM

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oh ok

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:22 AM

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though codewise they are 2 different things entirely

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// CalamityGlobalItem
public bool donorItem = false;
public bool devItem = false;```

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:23 AM

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hearty yew ~~I don't think there are any current examples, but it is theoretically possible...

CORRECTION
https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Profaned_Soul_Artifact
https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Profaned_Soul_Crystal

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Amber donated, got PSA, then became a dev and coded its upgrade, PSC, herself

jagged zealot Nov 22, 2022, 1:24 AM

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hearty yew ```cs // CalamityGlobalItem public bool donorItem = false; public bool devItem =...

Wait, so if someone made a add-on, could they theoretically use this bit of code to make sure their coded items get the rarity of the item of a dev?

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:24 AM

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Yes, though nobody has done so.

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It would be trivial to mark some arbitrary item as a dev item.

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You could mark Dirt Blocks as a dev item.

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I think that's fine, if used responsibly, e.g. by Calamity addon mods like Infernum.

jagged zealot Nov 22, 2022, 1:25 AM

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I mean, interms that a cal-addon dev would make

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:25 AM

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yeah, exactly

jagged zealot Nov 22, 2022, 1:25 AM

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Like, something dedicated to them in the add-on mod

errant cloud Nov 22, 2022, 1:25 AM

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hearty yew ```cs // CalamityGlobalItem public bool donorItem = false; public bool devItem =...

i interpret this btw in-code as "there are also bools for each rarity tier set to false by default that we enable per item" which is kinda cool

i wish i could describe it better

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funsies

hearty yew Nov 22, 2022, 1:26 AM

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nope rarity is a vanilla enum and ModRarity is a TML class

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example...

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namespace CalamityMod.Rarities
{
    public class Violet : ModRarity
    {
        // Violet is Rarity 15
        public override Color RarityColor => new Color(108, 45, 199);

        public override int GetPrefixedRarity(int offset, float valueMult) => offset switch
        {
            -2 => ModContent.RarityType<PureGreen>(),
            -1 => ModContent.RarityType<DarkBlue>(),
            1 => ModContent.RarityType<HotPink>(),
            2 => ModContent.RarityType<CalamityRed>(),
            _ => Type,
        };
    }
}

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alright that's offtopic enough

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we are not discussing suggestions at all lmao

jagged zealot Nov 22, 2022, 1:32 AM

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rip

hollow shell Nov 22, 2022, 4:08 AM

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hearty yew ~~I don't think there are any current examples, but it is theoretically possible...

(Lilac, Amber, and Terry were kinda like that)

hollow shell Nov 22, 2022, 4:08 AM

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hearty yew Amber donated, got PSA, then became a dev and coded its upgrade, PSC, herself

Ah yeah you got it

small timber Nov 22, 2022, 7:23 PM

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Isnt enchant one of the most broken (overpowered) mechanic in the game already

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And also scal still exhume items

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The equivalent of this suggestion will be like if goblin tinkerer's reforge is not good enough and it should have additional function like reforging armors; or that nurse is not good because you need to click on her and she should additionally heal in an area around her when there is nearby enemy... Or something like that

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:25 PM

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small timber Isnt enchant one of the most broken (overpowered) mechanic in the game already

ive never seen the use of it

small timber Nov 22, 2022, 7:26 PM

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You use it on exo or boss rush basically

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:26 PM

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wait so wait

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wait now im confused

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i get the boss rush but

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exo?

small timber Nov 22, 2022, 7:27 PM

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Exo and scal (supposedly) are the dame tier of progression

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You are expected to either beat scal first or beat exo first, and challenge the other with their loot

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So it is not scal > exo, it is scal = exo in terms of progression

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Just a lot of people found exo easier

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:28 PM

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fair

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anyway uhh

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how are enchants overpowered again

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scaling?

small timber Nov 22, 2022, 7:28 PM

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Because they are multiplicative damage boost

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I think?

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:28 PM

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yea ima have to suggest to change scaling

small timber Nov 22, 2022, 7:28 PM

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Even if additive their scaling is absurd

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Let me check just to be sure

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:29 PM

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yea no im relatively new to suggesting but id thought id share an opinion

small timber Nov 22, 2022, 7:30 PM

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It is mainly just a lot of enchantment are currently too powerful tbh

Main reason is because a lot of them have too low downside (besides the close/long range one)

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And also there is exhume items, though you mainly use it for shattered community

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So basically scal just give you a bunch of gear upgrades and some situationally super powerful enchant

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And on top of that, even if we assume all of these functions are useless because they are weak, scal comes in super late as an NPC

I dont know what function should be given to her other than just having her give you a bunch of gears (which she currently do), and if the problem is she dont give you enough gear then they just have to add more gear to enchant/exhume rather than making her have a different function

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:33 PM

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ok so

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:33 PM

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small timber And on top of that, even if we assume all of these functions are useless because...

i feel like this would have to be up with the devs when we get pre/post-yharim content for whenever that releases

drowsy plank Nov 22, 2022, 7:33 PM

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i dont think this is really gonna go anywhere

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also yes enchants will shine once we actually have post SCal content

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besides BR

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:34 PM

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yea so i might just

cobalt pewter Nov 22, 2022, 7:34 PM

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many enchantments definitely have lack of proper risks

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:34 PM

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save the suggestion for a few years into the future

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 7:34 PM

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The problem is: weak enchantment
The solution is: add another functionality to scal

??

small timber Nov 22, 2022, 7:34 PM

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The intention is that enchant will scale into yharim, you dont really need stronger stuffs

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:34 PM

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cobalt pewter many enchantments definitely have lack of proper risks

should i add that?

cobalt pewter Nov 22, 2022, 7:34 PM

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nah

drowsy plank Nov 22, 2022, 7:34 PM

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prolly for the best to see how she performs later on anyway

cobalt pewter Nov 22, 2022, 7:34 PM

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I think there's room to improve on scal when more stuff are added endgame

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:35 PM

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swift wharf The problem is: weak enchantment The solution is: add another functionality to s...

no the problem is
enchantments are either too weak or strong
solution is
give a reason to not use enchants

cobalt pewter Nov 22, 2022, 7:35 PM

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which is not in the near future

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 7:35 PM

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jarim...

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:35 PM

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cobalt pewter which is not in the near future

fair

cobalt pewter Nov 22, 2022, 7:35 PM

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hell, it won't be in any far future

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Yharim will not exist by the time sun died

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:35 PM

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yea so for now i guess ill just delete it? because i think we have come with a collaberative agreement that my suggestion will go nowhere as of now

small timber Nov 22, 2022, 7:35 PM

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The devs also spoke something about removing downside from exhume items, though never sure if same approach will be taken on enchant (or whether plan changed)

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 7:36 PM

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Removing the downside of enchants would just make them buffs

small timber Nov 22, 2022, 7:36 PM

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runic sandal yea so for now i guess ill just delete it? because i think we have come with a c...

The main problem with the suggestion is basically "scal already provide strong function why do we need more on her"

drowsy plank Nov 22, 2022, 7:36 PM

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the permafrost amidias cyborg pirate in the corner

small timber Nov 22, 2022, 7:36 PM

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If said function is weak they should be buffed, rather than add more different ones

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 7:37 PM

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permafrost mana upgrades....

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 7:37 PM

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yea ngl might change that

small timber Nov 22, 2022, 7:45 PM

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After looking at the enchants again, their wording implies multiplicative boost (mainly the weapon damage boost ones)

The ones that boost your weapon damage directly are completely overpowered, while the others that do random thing like summon demon or whatever are super weak

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But ya overall I think the suggestion still severely lack reasoning: just calling an entire category of things useless is not a good reason without anything to back it up, and the 2nd half of reasoning is basically "I dont care, I want more, give me more" (even if the title tried not to be that)

(And it still ignored exhume)

runic sandal Nov 22, 2022, 8:07 PM

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Yea ima just delete it now and see if the devs do anything when pre whatevers next content appears

cobalt pewter Nov 22, 2022, 8:12 PM

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here's a wild idea for Cyborg

make him work like Gungeon's Duct Tape

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HDfailure

drowsy plank Nov 22, 2022, 8:13 PM

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attaching two weapons together sounds like calamity balancing hell

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at least cyborg has a purpose selling rockets

frosty matrix Nov 22, 2022, 8:29 PM

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for any gamers who are unaware this is what the starlight melee effect looks like

cobalt pewter Nov 22, 2022, 8:34 PM

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I don't think the first paragraph is needed

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(the one that refers to this being a repost)

safe oasis Nov 22, 2022, 8:37 PM

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the last one and the image isn't needed either

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the suggestion voting userbase does not care about donor rule stuff and it only makes the sugg longer for no reason

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 9:38 PM

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elemental shiv is getting reworked anyway

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so is the part about it really needed

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 10:02 PM

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Okay saying Ele shiv is "underwhelming" is flat out wrong LOL

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It's like, tied with celebration mk.II for the best weapon for Providence

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Period

hollow shell Nov 22, 2022, 10:04 PM

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(depends on if they mean underwhelming design-wise or performance-wise)

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"I think they would appreciate the buff" ok nvm

hollow shell Nov 22, 2022, 10:05 PM

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swift wharf elemental shiv is getting reworked anyway

hahahahahha

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 10:05 PM

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please dont

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i am terrified now

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 10:10 PM

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hollow shell hahahahahha

Rover you're scaring me

royal tapir Nov 22, 2022, 10:12 PM

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Very interesting

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clueless

hollow shell Nov 22, 2022, 10:13 PM

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frosty trellis Okay saying Ele shiv is "underwhelming" is flat out wrong LOL

@frosty matrix

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 10:19 PM

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the elemental weapons are getting reworked... right?

hollow shell Nov 22, 2022, 10:28 PM

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[Anakin gazing in silence with a serious expression]

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 10:28 PM

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hollow shell [Anakin gazing in silence with a serious expression]

Isn't that just Oz's pfp?

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 10:29 PM

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no his pfp is from the 3D particle simulator

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(control)

hollow shell Nov 22, 2022, 10:29 PM

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Jacob Geller SCP game

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 10:30 PM

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hollow shell <@201510164828782592>

Also kt for ele shiv if you're interested

Screenshot_2022-11-22-14-30-01-91_e2d5b3f32b79de1d45acd1fad96fbb0f.jpg

hollow shell Nov 22, 2022, 10:30 PM

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I don't know her standard kill time but I imagine that is a good number

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 10:30 PM

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4 minutes HDfailure

hollow shell Nov 22, 2022, 10:30 PM

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Damn!

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 10:31 PM

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Yeah

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The only other weapon that can match that is Celebration Mk.II

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Which is also 2:0x HDfailure

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 10:31 PM

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clueless

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 10:32 PM

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Cele Mk.II red rockets are at least getting nerfed in 1.4.4

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 10:32 PM

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which ammo did you use

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 10:32 PM

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Mini Nuke I bc why wouldn't I use mini Nuke I?

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 10:32 PM

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good

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it would be so funny if they added mini nuke 3

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and kill all rocket balance whatsoever

glass arch Nov 22, 2022, 10:35 PM

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they'd also have to add mini nuke 4

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mini nuke 3 would be bigger than mini nuke 1, and mini nuke 4 would be the same but break blocks

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also isnt that just mortar rounds

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 10:36 PM

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Mini Nuke II already breaks rocket balance iirc since everything was balanced around rocket IIIs in 1.5

drowsy plank Nov 22, 2022, 11:00 PM

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glass arch also isnt that just mortar rounds

mortar rounds are bullets arent they

glass arch Nov 22, 2022, 11:00 PM

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true

frosty matrix Nov 22, 2022, 11:32 PM

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frosty trellis Also kt for ele shiv if you're interested

oh, i rescind my statement about it being underwhelming now ;_;

frosty trellis Nov 22, 2022, 11:32 PM

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LMAO

frosty matrix Nov 22, 2022, 11:34 PM

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safe oasis the suggestion voting userbase does not care about donor rule stuff and it only ...

i put it there because last time the donor rule was brought up

frosty matrix Nov 22, 2022, 11:34 PM

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swift wharf elemental shiv is getting reworked anyway

any info on this? im curious as to how its changing

safe oasis Nov 22, 2022, 11:35 PM

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it was brought up in discussion yes to make sure the suggestion was valid, doesn't make sense to be put in the actual thing itself though

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 11:35 PM

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yeshoney

frosty matrix Nov 22, 2022, 11:36 PM

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HDhurdur

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if it has an interesting rework ill take my suggestion down

swift wharf Nov 22, 2022, 11:37 PM

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TrollDespair

drowsy plank Nov 22, 2022, 11:40 PM

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tbf we just dont know yet lmao

errant cloud Nov 22, 2022, 11:49 PM

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at cognitive

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do you do the lurky here atm

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i like dutchman tweak but i'd prefer a 75-90% chance of item drop instead of guaranteed because of how many ships you encounter in one pirate invasion

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how do u feel abt that;

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is that yes

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or nou

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 1:17 AM

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isn't that the infernum one

serene tendon Nov 23, 2022, 1:18 AM

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Both are infernum

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The current place holder is the infernum mechs theme and if my sugg gets implemented it will be replaced with the infernum Exo Mechs theme

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 1:19 AM

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hm

serene tendon Nov 23, 2022, 1:20 AM

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I assume it was used since Catastrophic Fabrications was not made at the time

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But now that it is made, the placeholder can be switched to that

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 1:23 AM

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I do agree with this

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Because the infernum exos theme fits so very well

serene tendon Nov 23, 2022, 1:23 AM

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Yeah

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 1:54 AM

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While it is sensible to 'upgrade' the theme to the newest one, there is some problem:
i) there is a chance infernum's exo mech just stay using their new theme (instead of one will be created by CDMusic), so using it now will be like "yo Infernum you have something new give me that" rather than just as a placeholder theme (I dont know how to describe it properly)
ii) create confusion on players thinking it is the new theme
iii) create further pressure to finish the exo mech theme because instead of a placeholder that is not meant for exo mechs, an actual theme that are supposed to be used on exo mechs are used now

hot zephyr Nov 23, 2022, 1:55 AM

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iv) i'm pretty sure pin hasn't expressed any interest in the idea

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 1:56 AM

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conclusion: no

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HDfailure

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 1:56 AM

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Basically yeah, and it will be extremely rude to do so (to infernum)

vocal grotto Nov 23, 2022, 2:00 AM

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It'd ultimately be Pin's call, but yeah, just up and taking content from addon mods without their consent is no (and probably isn't even allowed from a TML ToS standpoint)

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 2:01 AM

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(I doubt they're very strict about enforcing that for cases where the mods are clearly connected)

serene tendon Nov 23, 2022, 2:01 AM

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vocal grotto It'd ultimately be Pin's call, but yeah, just up and taking content from addon m...

Yeah, obviously it wouldn't be done without his permission

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 2:02 AM

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But yeah I guess you can add that we'd need Infernum approval to do this and not just Pinkie's?

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 2:02 AM

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vocal grotto It'd ultimately be Pin's call, but yeah, just up and taking content from addon m...

(actually just this message is basically infernum delegating the decision to Pinkie)

serene tendon Nov 23, 2022, 2:02 AM

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Did it

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 2:03 AM

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the tmod ToS - at least as far as i can tell - doesnt say you can't take content from other mods without credit, although its probably frowned upon

vocal grotto Nov 23, 2022, 2:03 AM

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Technically only Pinkie's is needed afaik, since it's his asset?
I'm OK (albeit a bit reluctant due to it being after he left Cal) with such a thing happening if and only if Pinkie is absolutely comfortable with such a thing happening

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 2:04 AM

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Imo even if approval are given I still dont think it should be done

Just let it stay as something unique to infernum

The current theme is a placeholder, I dont think it is sensible to just replace it with another placeholder that is the finished project of the proper exo mechs theme of infernum

vocal grotto Nov 23, 2022, 2:05 AM

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Yeah, I think that's a good point

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 2:05 AM

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mm

unique bobcat Nov 23, 2022, 2:05 AM

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ok so like I got a question about wood

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and I need to send a picture

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and here I have pic perms so imma send a picture

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 2:06 AM

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This better not be porn

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 2:06 AM

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Oh no

unique bobcat Nov 23, 2022, 2:06 AM

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hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 2:06 AM

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ok

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 2:06 AM

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Ok

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 2:06 AM

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smh rover

unique bobcat Nov 23, 2022, 2:06 AM

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what are the woods circled

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cause like idk

serene tendon Nov 23, 2022, 2:06 AM

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unique bobcat what are the woods circled

Bamboo?

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 2:06 AM

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Uhh
Is this gonna lead into a suggestion?

unique bobcat Nov 23, 2022, 2:06 AM

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no

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 2:06 AM

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wew

serene tendon Nov 23, 2022, 2:07 AM

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Bamboo or Dynasty Wood

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 2:07 AM

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One of those two yea

unique bobcat Nov 23, 2022, 2:07 AM

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serene tendon Bamboo or Dynasty Wood

thank u

serene tendon Nov 23, 2022, 2:08 AM

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unique bobcat thank u

I think that the blocks are some form of painted bamboo, and the the beam is made from Dynasty Wood

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but I can't be sure

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 2:11 AM

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It's Large Bamboo

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Painted brown

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 2:24 AM

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why is this in the suggestion channels

willow widget Nov 23, 2022, 2:27 AM

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thoughts on combining the crimslime and corroslime staff?

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i just don't feel like there is enough justification to have both, its not hurting anything, its just kinda there

worthy lintel Nov 23, 2022, 2:29 AM

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slime god as a whole is due for some... adjustements

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🧌

willow widget Nov 23, 2022, 2:31 AM

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true

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king of a mix of king and queen slime tbh

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at least currently

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 2:36 AM

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that's not a bad position for it to be in, it's just a bit uh. tame for its point in progression

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 2:37 AM

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Slime god when it still has 40k hp phase 1

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(I still dont know if this is a bug)

errant cloud Nov 23, 2022, 2:43 AM

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i still remember when slime god's sprite looked like a badly drawn dr. seuss cartoon character

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HDfailure

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also i have no idea how to feel about replacing the exo mechs theme. i can tell you that using catastrophic fabrications (the infernum version) instead of the current one has a pretty high chance of taking away some of the atmosphere that makes infernum what it is

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but it doesnt really have any functional change so i'd also say yea, let pinpin decide

worthy lintel Nov 23, 2022, 2:48 AM

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i slap alternate exos theme ripped from youtube and call it a day

errant cloud Nov 23, 2022, 2:48 AM

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real.

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 2:49 AM

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Make a sorting algorithm the new exo theme

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 2:53 AM

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worthy lintel i slap alternate exos theme ripped from youtube and call it a day

Based as I do the same

worthy lintel Nov 23, 2022, 2:53 AM

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😎

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 2:54 AM

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Run just works too well and it's really fun to listen to when testing Exos

willow widget Nov 23, 2022, 2:57 AM

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just mute the music in game and listen to whatever you want during the fight peepoSitBusiness

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the most based way to play

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 3:06 AM

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true

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 3:08 AM

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Me who used the unofficial calamity music mod religiously:

willow widget Nov 23, 2022, 3:09 AM

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its really good, but sometimes i just want to finish a song

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instead of restarting it every 2 and a half seconds

worthy lintel Nov 23, 2022, 3:12 AM

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i dunno i just find the placeholder to lack the kick i'd associate with giants machines of death

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not bad, just not fitting

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 3:12 AM

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Yeah

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For sure

willow widget Nov 23, 2022, 3:12 AM

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im excited for the new exo theme

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 3:12 AM

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It works for normal mech trio (Which is why I have the infernum music mod enabled when not playing infernum) but yeah

worthy lintel Nov 23, 2022, 3:15 AM

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gombli

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 3:15 AM

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@astral flax wrong format and what do you mean?

worthy lintel Nov 23, 2022, 3:15 AM

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(also wrong format)

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 3:15 AM

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gombli

astral flax Nov 23, 2022, 3:16 AM

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sorry let's say I use the translator and I forgot how to write

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and let's say I saw another mod that allows you to modify / improve armor pieces

which I liked and imagine that with calamity adding passives for classes

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 3:18 AM

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That sounds like an absolute balance nightmare

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And really does not need to be implemented in the slighest

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If an accessory or armor set is bad, buff it instead of just making a billion modifications and break balance

worthy lintel Nov 23, 2022, 3:19 AM

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good god that sounds like brutal death

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however, if you believe some armor sets are underwhelming/weak, suggest it in #1042197406776827914

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i believe you'd be the first to suggest looking at an armor if you did lmao

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 3:20 AM

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Yeah

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Nothing about armor yet

worthy lintel Nov 23, 2022, 3:21 AM

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😭

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 3:21 AM

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~~Speaking of armor, nerf the ever living shit out of mythril armor thankyouverymuch~~

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 3:21 AM

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most of my issues with armor are design, not balance

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but I haven't checked a ton of reworked armors

astral flax Nov 23, 2022, 3:21 AM

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lose but give it that replayability of

I need damage or defense since it would only be +3 damage or defense maximum but with exclusive passive like a dash plus jump chance to inflict something extra

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1 pasive onli

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 3:22 AM

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Jesus fuck absolutely not

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No

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Please freakin' no

astral flax Nov 23, 2022, 3:23 AM

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Ok sorry

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 3:23 AM

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That is

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An absolute

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Balance nightmare

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If you are having trouble with fighting something either take a step back and learn the patterns or figure out your gear, not suggest equipment buffs for stuff that doesn't need it or give random passives to things

astral flax Nov 23, 2022, 3:27 AM

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Well, the only one that had a problem was Calamitas and the Bullethell

since there are times that I could not escape making it a miracle if I get out alive

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 3:29 AM

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are you

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trying to outrun it or something?

astral flax Nov 23, 2022, 3:29 AM

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Yep me luck no is the best :"/

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About 5 times I manage to dodge 3 projectiles in my direction to get out, which is and my PC doesn't help sometimes.

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 3:36 AM

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astral flax About 5 times I manage to dodge 3 projectiles in my direction to get out, which ...

LeviKek

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jesus christ this dude

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you're supposed to stand still and dodge them

astral flax Nov 23, 2022, 3:39 AM

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I do that and I defeated her a few times in addition to using the slime queen's hook :"3

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 3:40 AM

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why not just buy Rod of Discord in the hallow lol

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 3:41 AM

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drowsy plank trying to outrun it or something?

Okay in his defense Calclone bh2 is bullshit

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:50 AM

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if the game is too difficult then you can always just lower the difficulty

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or just go full warding, as long as you are not in master FTW bosses can't touch you (unless you get chain hit)

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 3:50 AM

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Oh yeah full warding is busted

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People say go full offensive while I just sit here and like: If the first few tries aren't going well full warding. Easy enough

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:57 AM

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full warding when exo mechs first hit against you do 50 damage
(yeah defense are quite stupid when you maxed them)

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 4:29 AM

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we have a hell pylon it's called the craigs HDfailure

distant gyro Nov 23, 2022, 4:33 AM

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multiple craigs

hybrid steeple Nov 23, 2022, 4:33 AM

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craigs

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 4:34 AM

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@tidal epoch "It can be useful to have a neutral Biome house"
What does this mean?

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 4:38 AM

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underworld house is considered no biome I think?

tidal epoch Nov 23, 2022, 4:39 AM

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The underworld Its not liked or disliked

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 4:39 AM

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Yeah

tidal epoch Nov 23, 2022, 4:39 AM

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As I understand

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 4:39 AM

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Underworld is neutral for all npcs

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 4:39 AM

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Okay but why is it useful to have a pylon for a biome because the biome is neutral?

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 4:39 AM

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So like, having a transport to the underworld? I don't really see the practical uses for that?

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 4:39 AM

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demon conch already do that too

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 4:39 AM

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frosty trellis So like, having a transport to the underworld? I don't really see the practical ...

Nah it is useful

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 4:39 AM

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Yeah

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 4:39 AM

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But Demon Conch

tidal epoch Nov 23, 2022, 4:39 AM

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Yeah, Like, to get in the Underworld in a sec with one pylon

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 4:40 AM

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Demon

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Conch

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Exists

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 4:40 AM

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it is craftable?

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yeah super easy craftable, hellstone + some demon bone ash

hollow shell Nov 23, 2022, 4:40 AM

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(also I just put my Cavern pylon at the lowest point of the Caverns so I can drop into Hell quickly if I want to)

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(in my recent pt)

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 4:40 AM

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Yeah

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frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 4:40 AM

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hollow shell (also I just put my Cavern pylon at the lowest point of the Caverns so I can dro...

That's what I do in all my pts

tidal epoch Nov 23, 2022, 4:41 AM

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Ok

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 4:56 AM

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I like the idea itself, but...

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There is currently a Pylon overload of sorts

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With just vanilla and Calamity, you barely have enough NPCs to make all Pylons work

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Adding another one would put even more tension in this

tidal epoch Nov 23, 2022, 4:57 AM

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Oh,ok, it makes sense, sry

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 4:58 AM

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Not to mention, Crags Pylon works as an Underworld pylon for all effective purposes

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 4:58 AM

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tidal epoch Oh,ok, it makes sense, sry

(You don't need to apologize)

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As I said, it's a good idea... just a bit hard to pull off without compromising other things

frail mantle Nov 23, 2022, 8:44 AM

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hollow shell (also I just put my Cavern pylon at the lowest point of the Caverns so I can dro...

you could just put your cavern pylon in hell if you want to

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still works down there

swift wharf Nov 23, 2022, 12:25 PM

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the terraria economy strikes again

short walrus Nov 23, 2022, 12:27 PM

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In shambles

distant gyro Nov 23, 2022, 12:28 PM

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god damn chest loot is an anomaly

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Ice Boomerang, Ice Skates, Blizzard in a Bottle, Flurry Boots: 1g
Ice Blade: 40s
Snowball Cannon: 2g

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Flurrystorm is 80s but that's because of the rarity-sell price system

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besides, lower sell cost means lower reforge cost

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and 9 times out of 10 lower reforge cost has better utility than higher sell cost, otherwise why even craft it in the first place

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 12:35 PM

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awesome

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 1:25 PM

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im sure you could probably find more examples of this than just flurrystorm

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:10 PM

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mage doesnt struggle tho

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accessories i agree with

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but mage doesnt exactly struggle on anything but DoG

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:13 PM

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even DoG there are some weapon that are busted against it

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the overall only "struggle" of mage is that they dont have accessory for some reason, but in terms of weapon no they are well equipped

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:15 PM

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compared to every other class mage has a pitiful amount of accessories which is the only downside really

short walrus Nov 23, 2022, 3:15 PM

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@kindred creek you can't just suggest to buff an entire class goddamn

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the balance suggestion thread is right there

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:15 PM

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especially if it is not true

short walrus Nov 23, 2022, 3:15 PM

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and do you have any idea how much work that would be if it were to go through?

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rogue took ages and it's rebalance is still happening

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:16 PM

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you could suggest new accessories but dont suggest a class-wide buff

short walrus Nov 23, 2022, 3:16 PM

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even then its ,.,.,.,

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as i said, balance suggestion thread is right there

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:17 PM

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(pretty sure class wide buffs are also a no in the donts doc)

short walrus Nov 23, 2022, 3:17 PM

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oh boy a ditcher

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:18 PM

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adds suggestion
people give feedback
ignores feedback

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 3:21 PM

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why are yall surprised all of equinox's suggs are like this lmao

short walrus Nov 23, 2022, 3:27 PM

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I'm not, just tired

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We should implement suggestion ban role

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:28 PM

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true

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:29 PM

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Suggestion discussion try to remember the point of #suggestions-posting (it is a complete mystery)

short walrus Nov 23, 2022, 3:30 PM

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What?

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Please, explain

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:30 PM

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we do have the ❗ on it, so at least theres that

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:30 PM

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if a suggestion have problem it should be corrected here, not outright ban someone from posting

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:30 PM

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The joke is that suggestion posting exists to weed out bad suggs

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:30 PM

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unless they are intentionally trolling

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Banning someone from posting is so excessive and unnecessary

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If you really dislike bad suggestions that much you can just. ignore suggestion posting and only look at voting

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Or if it’s a repeat offender and you’re really getting that worked up block them

short walrus Nov 23, 2022, 3:33 PM

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Ah, true

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I am joking

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Mostly

kindred creek Nov 23, 2022, 3:34 PM

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Where is the balance suggestion thread?

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:34 PM

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Threads

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Also pins

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:34 PM

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https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/1042197406776827914

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:34 PM

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I dont really think it is a balance suggestion anyway since it is such grand scale (for some reason that thread is mostly weapon only)

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if you want to resuggest you should focus on the fact that mage completely lack accessory option, they only have like celestial emblem, sigil of calamitas; and chaos stone and stuffs on the other hand also basically forces mana flower

unlike other classes where you can build a bunch of different things especially rogue that allow them to build stealth, spam and hybrid now

basically focus the suggestion on "making mage more fleshed out" rather than "buff mage", when I don't think mage even need that buff

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:37 PM

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yeah, more accessories is definitely something mage needs

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up until ethereal talisman you're almost guaranteed to be using mana flower

grim tusk Nov 23, 2022, 3:38 PM

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Yea mage is actually quite strong

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But the lack of accessories hurts it a lot

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:39 PM

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mage when their best post-DoG accessory is a RTN

grim tusk Nov 23, 2022, 3:39 PM

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TRUE

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(Altho RtN is an S tier acc)

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:39 PM

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nah its RTN and ethereal talisman

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:40 PM

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you need 2 to 3 (damage accessory), and mage somehow struggles to find the 2nd (if the weapon dont need chaos stone)

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it is so shit to the point of you might just use ethereal talisman + sigil of calamitas

short walrus Nov 23, 2022, 3:40 PM

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What is rtn

grim tusk Nov 23, 2022, 3:40 PM

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Reaper tooth necklace

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:40 PM

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reaper tooth necklace

short walrus Nov 23, 2022, 3:40 PM

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H

grim tusk Nov 23, 2022, 3:40 PM

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small timber you need 2 to 3 (damage accessory), and mage somehow struggles to find the 2nd (...

Hey at least stacking mana flowers for mana cost reduction is not op anymore (holy fuck it was busted)

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:41 PM

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grim tusk Hey at least stacking mana flowers for mana cost reduction is not op anymore (ho...

(I saw it got buffed to 20% and I was like 'huh this is definitely not normally')

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:41 PM

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small timber it is so shit to the point of you might just use ethereal talisman + sigil of ca...

slap on destroyer emblem and sorcerer emblem too for laughs

grim tusk Nov 23, 2022, 3:41 PM

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small timber (I saw it got buffed to 20% and I was like 'huh this is definitely not normally'...

I was like Fab wtf

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:41 PM

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I love balance

grim tusk Nov 23, 2022, 3:41 PM

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Then after backlogged balance change after they got to 20% they got nerfed to 12%

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:42 PM

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Still baffles me why vanilla designed mana regen band and then turned it into celestial cuffs

grim tusk Nov 23, 2022, 3:42 PM

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glass arch slap on destroyer emblem and sorcerer emblem too for laughs

Alamgam

grim tusk Nov 23, 2022, 3:42 PM

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crude geode Still baffles me why vanilla designed mana regen band and then turned it into ce...

HahaYes

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:43 PM

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and all of its upgrades loss the mana regen effect I think? (and the hp regen)

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:43 PM

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yes

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The hp regen is fair tbfh

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:43 PM

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yeah its just gone

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:43 PM

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It’s the whole trade of the thing

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But the mana regen being replaced with on hit is just baffling

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:44 PM

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the hp is only 1 regen/ 0.5hp/s so I dont even think it will be that strong

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:44 PM

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yeah it wouldnt be great

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:44 PM

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True

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:44 PM

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since celestial cuff is not exactly an amazing accessory

grim tusk Nov 23, 2022, 3:45 PM

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Doesnt Sigil absorb it?

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:45 PM

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cuffs is something i only use if im out of options

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:45 PM

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sigil yes, though it is already post-Golem for 1 regen

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:45 PM

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grim tusk Doesnt Sigil absorb it?

celestial emblem, not cuffs

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:45 PM

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on the other hand celestial shell with their nightwither and holy flame immunity

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:46 PM

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Cuffs are shrimply forgotten

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:46 PM

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cuffs i have legit only used for early pre-hardmode

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:46 PM

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Early pre-hardmode has you using cellphone components tho bc of reforges

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HDfailure

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:46 PM

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wait no

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sigil dont even take celestial cuff

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:47 PM

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Yep

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:47 PM

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just cel emblem

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:47 PM

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yeah I dont think +1 life regen to this will make it overpowered anytime soon

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:47 PM

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which is the best use for celestial magnet

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:47 PM

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this is like mana cloak but worse

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:48 PM

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Mana cloak my beloved

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Byeah

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 3:48 PM

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celestial emblem does the job of using celestial magnet and avenger emblem very well

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:49 PM

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Keep in mind
Mana restored is equal to the damage of the attack before factoring defense, but will never be lower than 10. Damage from drowning and debuffs does not trigger this effect, while damage from falling will. This effect does not stack with the mana restoration effect of the Magic Cuffs.

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Baffling vanilla design

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 3:50 PM

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imagine if it gave you mana on hit instead

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like i understand why the picked that effect even if it is ass, bc they really couldn't think of anything much better that didn't completely break the class's design

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until mana flower came along and just turned it into ranger 2

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 3:51 PM

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short walrus rogue took ages and it's rebalance is still happening

rogue will still get reworks as long as the amount of reworks is less than dog resprites

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:51 PM

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vanilla balancing when
firecracker be like "yeah that will do it"

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10-15 damage unscallable by any damage bonus

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:53 PM

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Vanilla balancing is an anomaly

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 3:55 PM

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"balancing"

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fr why does the flake not scale with summon damage tho

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 3:55 PM

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can't cal change that

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:56 PM

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Can’t vanilla just do it instead

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 3:56 PM

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I mean lmao

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:56 PM

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the cowards will never give me my damn sugg channel in the official discord 😤

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 3:56 PM

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you can probably ping Red and it might or might not be in 1.4.5

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can't wait for them to make 99% of Dead Cells broadswords with broadsword usestyle

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HDfailure

frozen hornet Nov 23, 2022, 3:57 PM

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crude geode the cowards will never give me my damn sugg channel in the official discord 😤

To be fair that'll probably be much worse than this channel

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:57 PM

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Probably

frozen hornet Nov 23, 2022, 3:57 PM

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Terramain has more than twice the amount of members as calamain

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 3:58 PM

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Byeah can’t wait for the true final update (please believe us)

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 3:58 PM

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and they will get a revert rod of discord chaos state change every 12 hours

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or the revert vampire knife nerf one

frozen hornet Nov 23, 2022, 3:58 PM

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Or the funny SIS

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Also just dm one of the game testers for balancing concerns tbh...

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 4:00 PM

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thankfully I have a close access to one

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HDfailure

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"close" as in literally close in proximity

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just a tap away

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or 2

frozen hornet Nov 23, 2022, 4:01 PM

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Well yeah that's literally just the entire internet smh

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 4:01 PM

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no.....

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byeah

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 4:02 PM

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God I just realized this sugg uses “coin gun” as part of it’s reasoning

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pain

frozen hornet Nov 23, 2022, 4:03 PM

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*coin gun upgrades

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 4:03 PM

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arent those meant to be good if you can use em right

frozen hornet Nov 23, 2022, 4:03 PM

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Get it right smh...

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Aren't there like one coing un upgrade though

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7️⃣ striker that is

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 4:04 PM

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coulda sworn there was another

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 4:05 PM

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they counted midas prime

frozen hornet Nov 23, 2022, 4:05 PM

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Midas is a drop and crackshot is pre-hm

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Get owne

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 4:57 PM

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How is Mage weak?

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It has some of the most busted weapons in the game

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Though of course, some were nerfed by now

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I do agree it needs more accessories and some weapons need reworks
That'll be worked on, hopefully

swift wharf Nov 23, 2022, 5:01 PM

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least scuffed reasoning in suggestions-posting

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 5:09 PM

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bright crag It has some of the most busted weapons in the game

Slithering Eels, Spectre Staff, Hadal Urn, Terra Ray, Vesuvius, Plague Staff, Last Prism, Lunar Flare, Thorn Blossom, Eidolon Staff, Victriolic Viper, Event Horizon, Face Melter, Tesla Cannon, Gruesome Eminence, off the top of my head

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 5:11 PM

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How are Face Melter and Tesla Cannon busted

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 5:12 PM

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is eidolon staff good?

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I remember it being pretty mediocre

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oh right I didnt use it on DoG, I guess maybe it is ok on DoG

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 5:14 PM

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Eidolon Staff is about 2:50ish DoG

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 5:15 PM

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bright crag How are Face Melter and Tesla Cannon busted

You tell me how they aren't

Screenshot_2022-11-23-09-14-51-18_e2d5b3f32b79de1d45acd1fad96fbb0f.jpg

Screenshot_2022-11-23-09-15-09-92_e2d5b3f32b79de1d45acd1fad96fbb0f.jpg

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 5:16 PM

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That's likely your aggression :p

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 5:16 PM

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Loadout I was using

Screenshot_2022-11-23-09-16-34-21_e2d5b3f32b79de1d45acd1fad96fbb0f.jpg

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 5:16 PM

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Specially Face Melter

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 5:16 PM

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Face Melter yeah you have to be aggressive LOL

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Because of the amp

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 5:17 PM

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As it gets a lot of power from staying in one place

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 5:17 PM

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~~we have a tread for this now~~ let me try face melter since I never use it, curious what it actually do

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 5:17 PM

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Don't have to be aggressive for Tesla. It's just hilarious

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 5:17 PM

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Hmm... weird

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Another one I have to test

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Which is ironic because I buffed it in the first place

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 5:17 PM

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Face Melter and Event Horizon I was very aggressive with
Tesla don't need to be.
I can record me using both in a few hours if you wish

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 5:17 PM

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And it was definitely not that strong

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 5:18 PM

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Didn't pop Silva revive on either iirc so no silva immunity tanking

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But yeah Face Melter needs aggressive play to function bc of the amp

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 5:19 PM

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small timber ~~we have a tread for this now~~ let me try face melter since I never use it, cu...

Make sure to read the tooltip xpc
Very important for this weapon

small timber Nov 23, 2022, 5:20 PM

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frosty trellis Make sure to *read the tooltip* xpc Very important for this weapon

so you right click everytime yharon is away?

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 5:20 PM

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Basically:
You right click to summon the amp at the cursors location
To relocate the amp to wherever you need it, right click to de-summon, right click again to summon it

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I got a 4:0x time with it before I knew the amp existed HDfailure

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 5:23 PM

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frosty trellis Didn't pop Silva revive on either iirc so no silva immunity tanking

~~Oh god I just realized this was before RTN was supposed to be included in the setup~~

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~~Over Amalgam~~

prime karma Nov 23, 2022, 6:42 PM

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frosty trellis Slithering Eels, Spectre Staff, Hadal Urn, Terra Ray, Vesuvius, Plague Staff, La...

dont forger spectre staff

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6-7k dps post plant

stable kiln Nov 23, 2022, 7:02 PM

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its there, the second weapon listed

grim tusk Nov 23, 2022, 7:14 PM

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bright crag That's likely your aggression :p

Even if playing agressive that killtime is just wrong

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 7:15 PM

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I know :p

grim tusk Nov 23, 2022, 7:15 PM

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Minute under FallWithinMyCalculations

bright crag Nov 23, 2022, 7:15 PM

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I will re-check those weapons

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But depending on the weapon, that'll have to be the balance

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Because otherwise it'll basically force aggressiveness

ruby plover Nov 23, 2022, 10:13 PM

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wowie, what a suggestion

swift wharf Nov 23, 2022, 10:20 PM

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asks to buff mage
does not provide any examples for underperforming mage gear
refuses to elaborate
leaves
gigachad

ruby plover Nov 23, 2022, 10:21 PM

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yep, pretty much

novel belfry Nov 23, 2022, 10:44 PM

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IMO Mage certainly feels boring, if because there aren’t that many play styles / accessories to choose from

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 10:45 PM

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Playstyles I disagree with entirely

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Accessories fair

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Mage has a fair few varied playstyles with the different weaopns making you do varied things and can change up how you play

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You wouldn't use Face Melter the same way you would use something like Recitation of the Beast, to give an example off the top of my head

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Or frigidflash bolt the same way you would use Snowstorm Staff

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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Last I checked mid game mage felt kinda lame tbh

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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Define mid-game

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 10:49 PM

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Like the stretch between post dungeon and pre-dog

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 10:50 PM

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Post dungeon to pre ML I can give you
I don't really see post ml to pre dog being lame

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Only lame part about post ml mage is that the vanilla weapons are stronger than the calamity ones on providence

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By A Decent Margin for Last Prism especially

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 10:51 PM

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I can’t recall any real standout weapons post ml to pre dog

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especially if we’re talking originality wise

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 10:52 PM

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Post ML: Elemental Ray and Nuclear Fury
Post Providence: Thorn Blossom, The Prince, Aethers Whisper
Post Polter: Eidolon Staff and Victriolic Viper

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 10:53 PM

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Nuclear Fury tagged as original when it’s literally razorblade copy pasted in a circle PensiveCore

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 10:53 PM

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I like using Nuclear Fury ;-;

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 10:53 PM

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It’s not the most original weapon

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 10:53 PM

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Best mob killer until post dog weapons and it was fun to use

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Originality fair

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 10:54 PM

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Elemental Ray I forgot what it’s placement was

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There is no contest that it’s the most original weapon in that stretch of the game

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Vitriolic Viper always felt kinda. lame tbh

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It’s just another plague staff esque shotgun

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 10:55 PM

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Shrugs

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 10:55 PM

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but it’s ACID RAIN FLAVORED

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 10:55 PM

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Eidolic Wail and Fates Reveal then

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 10:56 PM

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Eidolic Wail is a funny bouncing weapon I like a lot…that kinda just takes waterbolt and reflavors it until it’s unrecognizable

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Fate’s Reveal is hard to remember because it’s a direct boss drop post ml

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HDfailure

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 10:58 PM

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Fair

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Regardless, there isn't exactly a lack of weapons that can be cool. Uniqueness can definitely vary but fun to use is subjective and lame is another subjective term

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 10:59 PM

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Understandable

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I just want more elemental rays and less vitriolic vipers or line upgrades

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(Even tho elemental ray is a line upgrade but it differs heavily from previous varmint iirc)

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 11:00 PM

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It does differ from Terra Ray yeah

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 11:01 PM

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Thorn blossom at this point just feels kinda like filler compared to it

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If only we could axe it and have the prince be the upgrade PensiveCore

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 11:03 PM

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Thorn Blossom is very fun ~~to kill yourself with~~

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 11:05 PM

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It’s probably because thorn blossom used to be a riv that I forget about it constantly

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 11:05 PM

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i love thorn blossom

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 11:06 PM

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I haven’t actually gotten the chance to use it now that it’s no longer riv or malice mode

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 11:06 PM

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It's fun

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It has a downside that uses 3 hp for every use but god damn is it broken as shit

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Signus and Polter just die

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 11:08 PM

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Fun

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Btw can we delete asteroid staff

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 11:08 PM

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Yes

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It's broken but yes delete it

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 11:09 PM

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i think it could be more unique, but thorn has always been a blast to use for me

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also yes fuck asteroid

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 11:09 PM

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i forget asteroid staff exists

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 11:10 PM

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asteroid is just a worse vesuvius

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 11:10 PM

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I didn't know it existed until I went to find weapons that actually delt damage to inf provi

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 11:10 PM

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i like the concept but man is it dumb

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 11:10 PM

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drowsy plank asteroid is just a worse vesuvius

True!

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Because Vesuvius r.click makes Vesuvius not dumb

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 11:12 PM

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Asteroid is just a worse lunar flare wdym

swift wharf Nov 23, 2022, 11:12 PM

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astreoid st~~aff is literally just lunar flare~~

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yeah this

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 11:12 PM

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Compare it to the weapon that has the exact same theming and place in progression lol

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 11:16 PM

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drowsy plank i like the concept but man is it dumb

You like the concept of asteroid staff?

distant gyro Nov 23, 2022, 11:16 PM

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asteroid staff is exactly meteor staff 2

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 11:17 PM

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Yes

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I can’t exactly say that though bc I could also say that about a chunk of cal’s other weapons (vitriolic viper my beloathed)

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 11:25 PM

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i like the idea of meteor staff upgrade but there has gotta be a better way to handle it than whatever the fuck asteroid is doing

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like, moving it later in progression and making it a lunar flare + meteor upgrade would be cool i think

crude geode Nov 23, 2022, 11:26 PM

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Does cal mage not already retread enough ground that we’re going to meteor staff

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It would also be kinda hard to justify theming wise unless you just threw it onto dog bc funny cosmolite crafting half the post ml items

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 11:35 PM

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Asteroid staff should actually make an asteroid belt around you

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 11:36 PM

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kinda like the titanium set bonus?

cobalt pewter Nov 23, 2022, 11:37 PM

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a bit, but way larger in radius

glass arch Nov 23, 2022, 11:38 PM

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so like

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5 blocks away?

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or more

frosty trellis Nov 23, 2022, 11:38 PM

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More like Flowers of Mortality

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Imo

drowsy plank Nov 23, 2022, 11:43 PM

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that would be cool

distant gyro Nov 24, 2022, 5:58 AM

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coincidentally, this is planned

drowsy plank Nov 24, 2022, 6:02 AM

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nice

cobalt pewter Nov 24, 2022, 6:07 AM

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woa

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:24 AM

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Very based suggestion, denim

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Well articulated reasoning

cobalt pewter Nov 24, 2022, 6:27 AM

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alchnpc my beloathed

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I wouldn't even subject my worst enemy to Terraria economy

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 6:29 AM

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hollow shell Well articulated reasoning

Thank you. I don't expect anything to come of it but one can dream.

small timber Nov 24, 2022, 6:32 AM

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I think the "they dont in vanilla" dont have to be in the title? since I dont remember town npc selling potions

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the only exception is drunk princess but that one are alcohols not potion; so potion selling only apply to lifeforce, heartreach and love

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 6:33 AM

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small timber I think the "they dont in vanilla" dont have to be in the title? since I dont re...

Merchant sells lesser healing

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I'm fine with that

small timber Nov 24, 2022, 6:33 AM

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oh you counted hp pots and potion here (since title said buff potions)

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:33 AM

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I've taken issue with this Calamity feature many times, just asking for it to be outright removed, but your suggestion did give me an idea for a compromise
Having all the NPCs sell "Lesser" variants of their potions
The buffs all being weaker than their hand-crafted equivalents, and also being unable to stack with their equivalents

People get their easy potions but it's still worth it to go through the effort of brewing em yourself

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And yeah I don't think any NPCs sell buff pots but several sell healing and mana pots, in vanilla

small timber Nov 24, 2022, 6:34 AM

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I think that will be very confusing tbh

hot zephyr Nov 24, 2022, 6:34 AM

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The dev vote for adding a config for potion selling already concluded

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20-4-0 in favor of making it an enabled-by-default config

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:34 AM

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Oh right we did vote to add one

hot zephyr Nov 24, 2022, 6:34 AM

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It just hasn't been implemented yet

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 6:35 AM

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Oh sweet

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hot zephyr Nov 24, 2022, 6:35 AM

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(20 for adding config, enabled by default, 4 for adding a config, disabled by default, 0 for status quo)

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 6:35 AM

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Very cool

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Very glad to hear

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Idk how to delete my message, but that sounds fine to me.

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:36 AM

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0 was not for complete removal, it was for status quo

hot zephyr Nov 24, 2022, 6:36 AM

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right

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i forgor

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(it was my vote and I forgor troll )

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:36 AM

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There was no vote for complete removal and that smells like bias to me >:(

hot zephyr Nov 24, 2022, 6:37 AM

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It's true

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I'm anti-rover, sorry

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:37 AM

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Doesn't matter much anyway

hot zephyr Nov 24, 2022, 6:37 AM

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sadcat

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:37 AM

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Not anymore at least

hot zephyr Nov 24, 2022, 6:38 AM

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sadcat sadcat sadcat

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i kno.....

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#shayysweep

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:39 AM

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shwayyp

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 6:39 AM

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Personally I think it's great to have the option for people that hated it

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But for me it's kind of an important part of it all

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:39 AM

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Yeah

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You can delete your sugg if you want
or you can change it to just be asking for more incentive to hand-craft potions, without mentioning the config

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 6:42 AM

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I'm happy with config

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HakuThumbsup

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:42 AM

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Okie dokie

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 6:42 AM

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Hand craft incentive I feel would uh

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Anger people

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This feels safer

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:42 AM

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heh

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 6:42 AM

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Take the quiet W

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 6:43 AM

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Sometimes you need to tell your kid that they can't have dessert until they finish their dinner

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(except in this case the kid is a nohitter) HDFailure

distant gyro Nov 24, 2022, 6:45 AM

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unnerf potions if they are crafted normally HDfailure

glass arch Nov 24, 2022, 6:46 AM

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me on my way to cheat in the ingredients for potions so they're unnerfed ultimatesmug

cobalt pewter Nov 24, 2022, 6:48 AM

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pop da cheat sheet

frosty trellis Nov 24, 2022, 7:23 AM

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hollow shell (except in this case the kid is a nohitter) <:HDFailure:860207009919926302>

This made me laugh way harder than it should

hollow shell Nov 24, 2022, 7:25 AM

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I'm glad

grave zincBOT Nov 24, 2022, 10:29 AM

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@river path - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Mini Boss Relics less rare]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

swift wharf Nov 24, 2022, 10:52 AM

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hot zephyr (20 for adding config, enabled by default, 4 for adding a config, disabled by de...

why a config, just don't buy them

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Berdley_doodley

distant gyro Nov 24, 2022, 10:54 AM

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so true choomfius

small timber Nov 24, 2022, 11:29 AM

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@prisma flax this one I am not sure, but I think when the suggestion enters voting it will only have 1 picture

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so basically try to combine the 3 picture into a single png or something (you will have to repost the entire suggestion for that since I think you cant edit picture on after it is posted)

frail mantle Nov 24, 2022, 11:36 AM

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You could manually remove the embeds and put an image link in the suggestion but I’m not sure if the bot’ll embed it

prisma flax Nov 24, 2022, 11:36 AM

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small timber so basically try to combine the 3 picture into a single png or something (you wi...

grave zincBOT Nov 24, 2022, 1:25 PM

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@frosty trellis - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Give some sort of indication after skeletron has been defeated that the abyss exists]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

distant gyro Nov 24, 2022, 1:26 PM

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took the easy way and added it to shadow key

grave zincBOT Nov 24, 2022, 1:27 PM

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@cobalt pewter - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Adjust Slime Gun's tooltip to account for the reworked debuff system in Calamity.]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

distant gyro Nov 24, 2022, 1:28 PM

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also includes sparkle slime bunger

cobalt pewter Nov 24, 2022, 1:28 PM

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yoooo

frozen hornet Nov 24, 2022, 1:40 PM

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You could do something similar to profaned slabs and runic profaned slabs

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As in they're both the same blocks but one has only the runes and the other doesn't have it

grave zincBOT Nov 24, 2022, 2:29 PM

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@sleek wadi - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rework or Remove Terra Edge]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

distant gyro Nov 24, 2022, 2:29 PM

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died

small timber Nov 24, 2022, 2:32 PM

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what about terratomere

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since terrablade have 2 upgrades now

distant gyro Nov 24, 2022, 2:35 PM

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#changelogs message

swift wharf Nov 24, 2022, 2:40 PM

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is bloody edge gone too

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I remember storm mentioning it but idk

distant gyro Nov 24, 2022, 2:42 PM

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all 3

drowsy plank Nov 24, 2022, 2:42 PM

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💥

swift wharf Nov 24, 2022, 2:42 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407264700006420/1025706031092858971/trim.4F292C0D-CA65-42C1-8CB8-056EAE820F2D.mp4 this is relevant

▶ Play video

drowsy plank Nov 24, 2022, 2:43 PM

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now carnage can finally become a good weapon because it no longer has to sit in the shadow of bloody edge

swift wharf Nov 24, 2022, 2:43 PM

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NextTimeEatASalad

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now we wait for the suggestions/mods that bring t edge back

distant gyro Nov 24, 2022, 2:45 PM

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"bring back terra edge" modder when the "bring back old terra blade" mod exists

lucid flare Nov 24, 2022, 2:46 PM

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terra edge fell off the terra ledge

swift frigate Nov 24, 2022, 3:29 PM

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i think that rune thing is simply because of how terraria works :d
minor here, but you def can see some blocks changing too, unless you replaced them for some reason

frozen hornet Nov 24, 2022, 3:32 PM

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that's...what they're trying to change

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rn it's inconsistent

prisma flax Nov 24, 2022, 3:32 PM

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swift frigate i think that rune thing is simply because of how terraria works :d minor here, b...

are you referring to red-ish thingies on the ground?

swift frigate Nov 24, 2022, 3:32 PM

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yes, things those are under relics

prisma flax Nov 24, 2022, 3:33 PM

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i think that's just my character's blood when he walked past )

swift frigate Nov 24, 2022, 3:33 PM

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huh

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no

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i didnt meant blood D:

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those plates

prisma flax Nov 24, 2022, 3:34 PM

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aaah, you mean the runes

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yeye

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hm, i haven't noticed it before

swift frigate Nov 24, 2022, 3:35 PM

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tml doesnt saves tile frames on saving world iirc

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according to that atleast

distant gyro Nov 24, 2022, 3:36 PM

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mm yeah

swift frigate Nov 24, 2022, 3:36 PM

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it does seem to save tile frame number ("style" i think) tho 🤔

frosty trellis Nov 24, 2022, 4:54 PM

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distant gyro took the easy way and added it to shadow key

Fair enough

eternal escarp Nov 24, 2022, 5:03 PM

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@keen leaf sounds more like a bug report than a suggestion

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 5:03 PM

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I assumed it was intentional

eternal escarp Nov 24, 2022, 5:04 PM

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i dont think it is?

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atleast, i dont see why it would be

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so yea

swift wharf Nov 24, 2022, 5:07 PM

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why would it be TaxEvasion

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 5:07 PM

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i assumed their logic was something like

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it displays on server startup -> people join a multiplayer server and can't see messages before they joined (which was after startup) -> they can't see the message (host included)

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displaying the message every time someone joined could be disruptive, so they left it like that on purpose

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That was my theory

swift wharf Nov 24, 2022, 5:20 PM

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Ok that is a valid reason

eternal escarp Nov 24, 2022, 5:28 PM

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yeah that actually does sound reasonable

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i would ask ben about if its just an oversight or intentional but i cant bother right now

swift wharf Nov 24, 2022, 5:34 PM

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maybe it does display the message but only one time when the host joins although I can't confirm because I do not pay attention to the chat

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Actually I think that the ore excavator message appears after the cal message too

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 6:27 PM

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swift wharf maybe it does display the message but only one time when the host joins although...

I've never seen it as host any time i join

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but hosts join after the server is up

swift wharf Nov 24, 2022, 6:27 PM

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huh

keen leaf Nov 24, 2022, 6:28 PM

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but yeah i figured there was a reason its this way, I can't know for sure, but I figured i'd recommend it be changed simply because if there is a workaround, it'd be nice

vocal galleon Nov 24, 2022, 6:44 PM

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@keen leaf are you hosting it off dedicated server, host service, etc?

kindred creek Nov 24, 2022, 11:06 PM

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Could calamity send a cease and desist order to fandom?

frail mantle Nov 24, 2022, 11:06 PM

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theoretically yes

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but it would cost more than it's worth in legal fees

kindred creek Nov 24, 2022, 11:07 PM

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Makes sense

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But how much money do they lose by people going to fandom instead of wiki?

frosty trellis Nov 24, 2022, 11:08 PM

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Considering ad sense and over a million people have the mod, a bit

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I swear at least 30-50% of the questions asked in #help-advice-read-pins is "why can't I make [insert fandom item]'" or "was [insert fandom item] removed?" Or some variation

novel belfry Nov 24, 2022, 11:14 PM

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frosty trellis I swear at least 30-50% of the questions asked in <#350387256583782400> is "why ...

I need to know some examples of [fandom item]

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like i know of hypnos

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but what about

golden tulip Nov 24, 2022, 11:21 PM

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kindred creek But how much money do they lose by people going to fandom instead of wiki?

how would they lose money by not going to the right wiki

bright crag Nov 24, 2022, 11:39 PM

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novel belfry but what about

Meridian spear

pale nacelleBOT Nov 24, 2022, 11:39 PM

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Official wiki: https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/

**Do not use the Fandom wiki**

It will no longer be updated nor maintained, and it is heavily vandalized with fake information.

Use the official Calamity Mod Wiki here at wiki.gg instead.

bright crag Nov 24, 2022, 11:39 PM

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...

drowsy plank Nov 24, 2022, 11:40 PM

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lol

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the great filter

bright crag Nov 24, 2022, 11:41 PM

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Draedon with sunglasses, harbinger of knowledge

frosty trellis Nov 24, 2022, 11:47 PM

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novel belfry I need to know some examples of [fandom item]

Warloks Moon Fist (The Melee Accessory)
Grand reef (giant clam flail upgrade)
The verboden one (soul of eternity but calamity)
Subnautica Plate (Jared drop, needed for shadow spec bars for some reason)
Neuraze (magic gun)
Aergian Technistaff (Summon)
Exodimus (White-Blue grand guardian but rogue)
Shadows Decent (Dev tier spiky Ball)
Anything related to Noxus

novel belfry Nov 24, 2022, 11:48 PM

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Shockingly, some of these item names don't sound half bad

frosty trellis Nov 24, 2022, 11:48 PM

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Literally

novel belfry Nov 24, 2022, 11:49 PM

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Meanwhile you see Warlok's Moon Fist be classified as a melee access and not a summoner weapon

frosty trellis Nov 24, 2022, 11:49 PM

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They made a sprite for it abd everything

frail mantle Nov 24, 2022, 11:51 PM

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bright crag Draedon with sunglasses, harbinger of knowledge

MC Yung Drae

golden tulip Nov 24, 2022, 11:57 PM

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pale nacelle Official wiki: <https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/>

WHAT IS THIS

frail mantle Nov 25, 2022, 12:00 AM

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MC Yung Drae

worthy lintel Nov 25, 2022, 12:55 AM

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its not fake info, its community content...

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😔

errant cloud Nov 25, 2022, 1:19 AM

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Tru

glass arch Nov 25, 2022, 1:20 AM

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its a bandaid on a severed limb is what it is

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 3:15 AM

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@ashen warren that seems like a bug, but also dummies are not really that important for weapon functionality, so idk how relevant this change is

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 3:16 AM

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use the right click button

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 3:16 AM

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lol

glass arch Nov 25, 2022, 3:21 AM

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the cooking pot is only used for crafting consumable buff items for the player, if seafood was one it would make sense but since its just a boss summon item its not really necessary

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(at least im 90% sure, cant find a list of calamity recipes that use it as a crafting station)

tidal epoch Nov 25, 2022, 3:23 AM

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I can't see how you can cook with an anvil TBH

glass arch Nov 25, 2022, 3:23 AM

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well to be fair its also made using sand so

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cooking with an anvil isnt out of the question

ornate kestrel Nov 25, 2022, 3:38 AM

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You can hammer the shit out of something to cook it

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It'll eventually work, I mean I've welded metal by hammering it

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 3:44 AM

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vocal galleon <@114103251753893891> are you hosting it off dedicated server, host service, etc...

the host and play button on tmod loader

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 4:30 AM

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@keen leaf that's already planned

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 4:32 AM

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... uhhh hmmmm

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Not sure what to say

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 4:34 AM

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I think I know what you mean

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:35 AM

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drowsy plank <@114103251753893891> that's already planned

neat

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 4:35 AM

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I might be able to sub in

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 4:36 AM

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idk what yall have in the warehouse but i know yall at least said the line has A rework planned at least

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even if it isn't Exactly That

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 4:37 AM

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the other half is Catastrophe Claymore and that line is

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dread

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 4:37 AM

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dont remind me it exists god

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:37 AM

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alternative question then

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 4:37 AM

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catastrophe claymore is moon lord viable btw

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:37 AM

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doesnt this line merge with the ark and biome blade lines later

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 4:37 AM

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that's the short reason why it's not that simple to complete the line

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 4:37 AM

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distant gyro the other half is Catastrophe Claymore and that line is

We did have plans for that line, but not anymore! :)

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 4:37 AM

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:)

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 4:37 AM

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🤔

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 4:37 AM

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keen leaf doesnt this line merge with the ark and biome blade lines later

Nah, you're getting mixed up

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 4:38 AM

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Devil's Devastation is the final

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:38 AM

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you're right

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 4:38 AM

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Oathswords + Catastrophe

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:38 AM

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ok, so if there's no plans to mess with the catastrophe line

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what does that mean for the merging of that line and the old lord line

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 4:38 AM

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spontaneous combustion

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:38 AM

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they converge yeah?

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 4:38 AM

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wait what is the calamity sword that is dropped by hallowed mimic again?

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:39 AM

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in uhh devil

glass arch Nov 25, 2022, 4:39 AM

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celestial claymore iirc

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 4:39 AM

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small timber wait what is the calamity sword that is dropped by hallowed mimic again?

no you're thinking of celestial claymore :)))

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 4:40 AM

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drowsy plank no you're thinking of celestial claymore :)))

nono, catastrophe claymore is moon lord viable, I just forgot what is the one dropped by mimic

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 4:40 AM

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celestial is the mimic one i meant

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:40 AM

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distant gyro spontaneous combustion

NOOO

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 4:41 AM

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this is actually a good thing fuck the popsicle swords

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:41 AM

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popsicle swords?

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 4:41 AM

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small timber catastrophe claymore is moon lord viable btw <:XD:936106628833488906>

Same with Flarefrost Blade

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 4:41 AM

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they look like popsicles

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:41 AM

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im assuming you mean catastrophe

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 4:41 AM

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yeah

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 4:41 AM

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frosty trellis Same with Flarefrost Blade

Got a 3:16 with Flarefrost on ML

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 4:42 AM

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keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:42 AM

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if they get removed, i'd hope that old lord keeps a line going up that focuses on new stuff, maybe something similar to its current rework

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 4:42 AM

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Flarefrost Blade my beloved

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 4:42 AM

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small timber wait what is the calamity sword that is dropped by hallowed mimic again?

They do indeed have very similar names
Celestial is a dead-end sword though, no crafts

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 4:42 AM

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le melee weapons when melee speed simply exist

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 4:42 AM

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Celestial can also die bc why does it exist?

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 4:42 AM

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^

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broadswords broadswords broadswords broadswords broadswords broadswords

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 4:42 AM

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celestial is good for queen slime

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 4:42 AM

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keen leaf if they get removed, i'd hope that old lord keeps a line going up that focuses o...

i dont think they're killing devil's dev, just the devastation line itself lol

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 4:42 AM

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Just kill Celestial/Catastrophe/Solistic Claymore

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 4:42 AM

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thats it I think

keen leaf Nov 25, 2022, 4:43 AM

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I'm down for that

storm mist Nov 25, 2022, 5:07 AM

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nerf giant tortoise

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:08 AM

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Too many offscreen snipes?

storm mist Nov 25, 2022, 5:10 AM

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hollow shell Too many offscreen snipes?

i want giant tortoise removed

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:12 AM

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That isn't going to happen unfortunately. Calamity wouldn't outright remove vanilla content

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We can adjust their AI though

storm mist Nov 25, 2022, 5:13 AM

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hollow shell We can adjust their AI though

Giant tortoises are the embodiment of pain and suffering, id rather fight a eye of cuthulu every time i see one of them, you dont understand how much pain they cause the community. i recommend making their AI less smart because they always manage to do crazy stuff some how

glass arch Nov 25, 2022, 5:14 AM

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their jump distance and velocity should be nerfed if thats what you mean

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:14 AM

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You can make a suggestion about making their AI more forgiving somehow, or giving them more significant telegraphs

storm mist Nov 25, 2022, 5:14 AM

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glass arch their jump distance and velocity should be nerfed if thats what you mean

yes.

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:14 AM

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(try not to have too much exaggeration and hyperbole in your reasoning though or people will take you less seriously)

storm mist Nov 25, 2022, 5:15 AM

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hollow shell (try not to have too much exaggeration and hyperbole in your reasoning though or...

I am a walking meme, i dont really care about people not taking me serious tbh

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:15 AM

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Well, suggestions are voted on by the public

glass arch Nov 25, 2022, 5:16 AM

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yeah if you want to have the suggestion go through you should try to be taken seriously

storm mist Nov 25, 2022, 5:16 AM

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i will seduce all the mods and devs to make my suggestions come true 😍 (this is sarcasm dont ban me pls)

grave zincBOT Nov 25, 2022, 5:32 AM

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@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Allow Hallowed and Cryonic Ore to Spawn in Biome Variant Blocks]

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distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 5:32 AM

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this was true even before the suggestion was posted but I had to sanity check it real fast

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drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 5:35 AM

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it was magic storage

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:35 AM

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distant gyro this was true even before the suggestion was posted but I had to sanity check it...

Okay I remember there was a lot of testing and confusion over that

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Was it really Magic Storage

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 5:35 AM

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yes

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:35 AM

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Damn

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 5:36 AM

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funniest shit ive ever seen

versed cape Nov 25, 2022, 5:36 AM

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@tidal epoch are you sure scourges need to eat warm food?

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:36 AM

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Magic Storage does some fucked up shit to gen code for some reason
cuz I'm pretty sure it was also the cause of the Sulph Sea getting flipped

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:36 AM

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versed cape <@796559509304246314> are you sure scourges need to eat warm food?

That's a weird question

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 5:38 AM

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on a side tangent I've always heard that hallowed ore is super rare and it doesn't really seem like it tbh HDfailure

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:38 AM

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Not everything made at the Cooking Pot is "warm"

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Notably almost everything made with fruit

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is not a traditionally warm dish
and in fact one of them is "Frozen"

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:38 AM

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distant gyro on a side tangent I've always heard that hallowed ore is super rare and it doesn...

I have also heard that

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(maybe that can also be blamed on Magic Storage...)

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 5:40 AM

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on god what is magic storage doing with world gen

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 5:44 AM

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something fucked up fr

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:45 AM

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I imagine they have to do a lot of complex tile stuff to get their core storage system to work but

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I dunno why that would affect gen

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 5:46 AM

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hollow shell Magic Storage does some fucked up shit to gen code for some reason cuz I'm prett...

Sulph Sea getting flipped was just importing from 1.3 to 1.4
That is just an import thing and nothing can be done about it

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:46 AM

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I've heard it happening to some people long after the port, worlds made from the beginning in 1.4

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 5:46 AM

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Ic

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 5:46 AM

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but, all rumors I suppose

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More rigorous testing required

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Scientific method

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 5:47 AM

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Sulf sea flip happened in my testing world when I imported it since i had to import an expert world due to the astral chest bug at the time

grave zincBOT Nov 25, 2022, 5:51 AM

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@hardy dock - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Significantly increase the generation of Uelibloom]

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@digital saddle - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Uelibloom ore easier to get]

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@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Increase the Vein Size of Perennial and Uelibloom Ore or Make Them Spawn More Often]

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distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 5:52 AM

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why are there 3 uelibloom suggestions

stable kiln Nov 25, 2022, 5:52 AM

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lmao

glass arch Nov 25, 2022, 5:53 AM

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distant gyro why are there 3 uelibloom suggestions

because it sucks to get

north oracle Nov 25, 2022, 5:53 AM

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they all got voted through somehow and it's annoying to mine

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 5:53 AM

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increased it by like

glass arch Nov 25, 2022, 5:53 AM

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i will be (probably not) the first to admit i cheat in uelibloom because i can never find any

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 5:53 AM

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86.67%

stable kiln Nov 25, 2022, 5:53 AM

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yes but why 3
also uelibloom slimes are really easy to find in open jungle areas with zerg which is also an option, but thats besides the point

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 5:53 AM

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almost double

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also I didn't do Perennial but idk

grave zincBOT Nov 25, 2022, 5:59 AM

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@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rework the Wood Armors into Utility Sets]

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@fathom aspen - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rework Brimstone Flask]

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@fathom aspen - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[An appropriate icon for Daybroken.]

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@fathom aspen - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make all Cryogen, Permafrost and Cryonic Bar related items (and other HM items with frostburn) inflict Frostbite instead]

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frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 5:59 AM

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grave zinc <@166992984171085824> - Your suggestion has received an updated status! [**Rewo...

WOOOOOO

grave zincBOT Nov 25, 2022, 6:04 AM

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@fathom aspen - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make all Cryogen, Permafrost and Cryonic Bar related items (and other HM items with frostburn) inflict Frostbite instead]

It has been add to the devs' to-do list and planned for implementation!
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frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 6:04 AM

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Oh shit they already have that planned

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Time to make flarefrost blade EVEN MORE BROKEN

fathom aspen Nov 25, 2022, 6:05 AM

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~~Few pre-plante bosses are weak to cold tho~~

grave zincBOT Nov 25, 2022, 6:05 AM

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@fathom aspen - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rework Brimstone Flask]

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frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 6:05 AM

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fathom aspen ~~Few pre-plante bosses are weak to cold tho~~

~~Flarefrost is op for ML so yeah~~

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 6:13 AM

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grave zinc <@408551217720066059> - Your suggestion has received an updated status! [**Rewo...

this is conflicting to flasks being flasks

drowsy plank Nov 25, 2022, 6:14 AM

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frosty trellis WOOOOOO

ultimatesmug

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 6:17 AM

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new Uelibloom gen (yes this is a small world it's faster for testing ok)

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+36.36% Perennial gen

grim tusk Nov 25, 2022, 6:25 AM

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grave zinc <@408551217720066059> - Your suggestion has received an updated status! [**Rewo...

“Cursed flames is better than brimstone flames”
So why not just buff brimstone flames instead? (And was planed already way before the sugg got posted)

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@tidal epoch address how you are going to keep the item hardmode only

cobalt pewter Nov 25, 2022, 6:40 AM

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hollow shell (maybe that can also be blamed on Magic Storage...)

magic storage my

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(where's my items supremacy)

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 6:44 AM

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I did an organized chest pt recently with WMI, after Magic Storage spooked us by almost vaporizing our items

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 6:45 AM

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I've never had that happen to me in single player, mp via steam or mp via dedicated server

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I refuse to believe that bug exists

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 6:45 AM

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And I gotta say
... chest organization is miserable, I never wanna do it again.
Magic Storage is a blessing

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 6:46 AM

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LITERALLY

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Magic Storage and Ore Excavator

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The two main reasons I can never go back to vanilla

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I will flatten my world by hand with sticky dynamite
As I do on all of my pts
I refuse to not have my ore excavator and magic storage

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 6:49 AM

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VeinMiner (and its successors) I can live without
Not a big deal to dig through ore veins

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But yeah having to put shit in the appropriate chests every time you get any new items
Having to expand the chest system after runnin out of space, having to reorganize

It's so, so tedious, it's maddening

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It's a mental task every time

grave zincBOT Nov 25, 2022, 6:54 AM

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@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make it so ???, Hive Cyst, and Perforator Cyst can't be killed by Falling Stars to prevent unintentional Boss Fights.]

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distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 6:54 AM

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pain in the ass to test

errant cloud Nov 25, 2022, 7:07 AM

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im zoned out but an upping to ueli ore gen is good

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glad that got passed

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i had no idea why ueli was as infrequent as it was but auric was giant motherload veins and needed 50 ore a bar taxevasion

errant cloud Nov 25, 2022, 7:08 AM

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distant gyro

cotton candy image btw

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:13 AM

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one finally landed

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0 damage

hollow shell Nov 25, 2022, 7:34 AM

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pog

tidal epoch Nov 25, 2022, 7:35 AM

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grim tusk <@796559509304246314> address how you are going to keep the item hardmode only

Wait, wait, wait...

I tought It needed a normal Anvil to be made, I remember that a Youtuber beated the Scourge in Prehardmode, also the worm spawns in PH so the wormfood being hardmode is complicated

short walrus Nov 25, 2022, 7:35 AM

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It spawns naturally

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:35 AM

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it can spawn naturally in PHM

short walrus Nov 25, 2022, 7:35 AM

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Seafood not required

tidal epoch Nov 25, 2022, 7:35 AM

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Like, I'm sugesting the station change because its craftable PH

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:36 AM

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intended progression and summoning item are after 1 mech boss

tidal epoch Nov 25, 2022, 7:36 AM

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So It doesnt mater and gives you a dumb joke of the Terrarian Cooking the Seafood

crude geode Nov 25, 2022, 7:36 AM

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does it need to be hardmode only

tidal epoch Nov 25, 2022, 7:37 AM

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Bruh, it uses an Iron Anvil

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Why do you say Its hardmode only?

tidal epoch Nov 25, 2022, 7:38 AM

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grim tusk <@796559509304246314> address how you are going to keep the item hardmode only

This is super-dumb

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:39 AM

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also yeah I thought that was changed at some point

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smh shade

tidal epoch Nov 25, 2022, 7:41 AM

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:v
nope...

Still prehardmode

grave zincBOT Nov 25, 2022, 7:42 AM

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@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Have The Regenator 'Make The Player Cannot Have More Than 50% HP' (Instead of Reduce Max HP by 50%)]

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distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:43 AM

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crude geode Nov 25, 2022, 7:44 AM

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pog

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 7:48 AM

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low life build Pog

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:48 AM

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it somehow works with potion for a frame

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fuck

crude geode Nov 25, 2022, 7:49 AM

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rip

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 7:49 AM

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~~loses a single frame of necklace of vexation, nohitters in shambles~~

cobalt pewter Nov 25, 2022, 7:49 AM

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god

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:50 AM

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you go to 680 health for a frame so technically it's a frame perfect timing for skilled players :clueless

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 7:51 AM

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distant gyro intended progression and summoning item are after 1 mech boss

Sorry how tf is this summoning item post 1 mech? Seems like pre boss shit to me

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:51 AM

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frosty trellis Sorry how tf is this summoning item post 1 mech? Seems like pre boss shit to me

was hardmode anvil at some point

cobalt pewter Nov 25, 2022, 7:51 AM

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awesome

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 7:51 AM

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Hasn't been for AWHILE

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:51 AM

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I just took it off what Shade said and didn't bother checking

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HDfailure

crude geode Nov 25, 2022, 7:52 AM

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shade such a boomer

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 7:52 AM

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Pretty sure even Fandom has that correct HDfailure

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When fandom corrects a dev

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:53 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/644479854036647937/706573586520866906/h.png

cobalt pewter Nov 25, 2022, 7:53 AM

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clue

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 7:53 AM

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Okay the recipe is different but the anvil is the same and the progression is the same on fandom

frosty trellis Nov 25, 2022, 7:54 AM

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distant gyro https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/644479854036647937/706573586520866906/h.p...

Lmao

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 7:55 AM

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distant gyro you go to 680 health for a frame so technically it's a frame perfect timing for ...

oh right forgot to ask, the life regen on regenator is nerfed right?

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since previously regenator was gimped by halfed max HP which makes the regen scale badly + life regen limit (getting doubled)
so if it dont get reduced it will probably be comically overpowered

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:56 AM

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no but I can do that later

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 7:56 AM

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(+ constant 25% DR from frozen shield now)

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 7:58 AM

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halved regen time

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potions now heal for 0 if you're at half health HDfailure

crude geode Nov 25, 2022, 8:02 AM

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lol

errant cloud Nov 25, 2022, 8:17 AM

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basedbasedbased

grave zincBOT Nov 25, 2022, 8:39 AM

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@fathom aspen - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make all Cryogen, Permafrost and Cryonic Bar related items (and other HM items with frostburn) inflict Frostbite instead]

It has officially been implemented into the game, and will be available in the next update!
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distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 8:39 AM

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speedrunning

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 8:44 AM

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distant gyro speedrunning

sry if this is not related to suggestions, how many of the "half HP" items work if you are exactly on half? since I remember a suggestion about fixing old duke's scale (or is it the truffle one) and necklace of vexation had been mentioned as suggestion at some time that they don't work if you are exactly on half

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you must be half then -1 or something

distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 8:44 AM

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uhhh

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like

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old duke's scale

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everything else is above or below like frost flare or vexation

small timber Nov 25, 2022, 8:45 AM

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distant gyro Nov 25, 2022, 8:46 AM

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or even rotten brain, partially