suggestions-discussion

[small timber]

shadow = darkness, corruption is more "rotting/rotten" at least that is the difference to me

[distant gyro]

corruption is decaying, rotten brown-ish green-ish flesh

which is primarily featured in eye of night

[crude geode]

I feel like you'd need to distinguish that shadow and corruption are different better then

[distant gyro]

the portrayal of shadow is just swift dark/purple object, technically night's ray does fine

[crude geode]

considering

and the corruption-made weapon literally called perfect dark

[small timber]

I mean shaderain still have that brown-ish kinda rotten part, meanwhile night's edge is just full purple

(this one I do think distinction is not obvious enough though, since basically only the top "eye" is rotten which is not obvious enough)

[crude geode]

also doesn't help that the armor you craft from the corruption in vanilla is literally called Shadow Armor

and there is NO hint of any of the brownish rotten stuff in that armor

[small timber]

well vanilla is not renaming it so it is a "it is what it is" moment

(tldr crimson is added later so original evil biome = corruption only, which causes many of these theming issue)

[glass arch]

i think shadow armor (and the nights edge) are pretty much made with just demonite bars, at least in vanilla, which are purple, so they are subsequently purple. there isnt really a brownish corruption material in vanilla so it doesnt make sense for the weapons and armor to have that

[distant gyro]

rotten chunk is brown and i think planned resprites are brown

particularly the insert famous hive mind resprite

[crude geode]

hive mind will be resprited we swear

[glass arch]

Someday™️

[grave zinc]

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[Allow Thanatos to be targeted with summon weapon right clicks]

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[Rework (Revengeance+) Hallowed Armor Into a Proper Dodge Effect]

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[Rancor, to be extra cool and lore accurate, has special interaction with water]

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[cobalt pewter]

it is time

[grave zinc]

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[Prevent Astral Infection from falling onto evil biome]

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[Revamp the Various Dodge Effect So The Early Ones Are No Longer Too Weak]

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[Buff Frost Armor To Be On-Par With Other Post-Tier 3 Hardmode Ore Armors]

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[Change the way SCal creates her arena]

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[Make Exo Mechs "choice" Description Wording More Hinting Towards Their Referred Mechs]

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[cobalt pewter]

that's it?

50% of the delivered suggs are xp's

[small timber]

@cunning palm a better suggestion will probably be to suggest DoG to spawn less randomly so it has no chance to cheapshot the player regardless of whether its head is dealing damage

head dealing no damage is incredibly band-aid to me

[cobalt pewter]

DoG should just spawn on the player after a delay when cosmic worm is used, indicated by a portal

[hot zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/despite-all-my-rage-despite-cat-gif-24628181

[frosty trellis]

I don't agree with biome blade keeping it's attunements simply because in some cases (Like the true version) I might want it unattuned so it can receive true melee benefits

[small timber]

I remember that one is because of technical issue, similar to how reforging dont let you keep charges for draedon arsenal weapons

not sure if it is fixable now

[frosty trellis]

Reforging keeps the charge on draedon weapons though

[small timber]

oh it does now? for a long time it didnt

[frosty trellis]

Unless Caltesthelpers is the one that does that

It does

[high folio]

then they should add a remove attunement option

[frosty trellis]

How would one do that is the real question....

[small timber]

with 1.4.4 you can just throw it into shimmer

[frosty trellis]

I just like reforging as the simple option as it is easy and you should reforge the weapon before attuning it anyways

Oh right

Shimmer exists

[high folio]

i just reforged 2 of my biome blades and now i have to travel to 4 biomes just to get its attunements back

[frosty trellis]

Well that is annoying yeah

[tropic sleet]

Just reforge the biome blade before attuning it?

[high folio]

what if you dont have enough coins to reforge it but you need it to get the coins

[short walrus]

fight as many bosses as you need

guarantee you will hardly run out of money (personal experience: almost 500 plat by yharon

[small timber]

"potion grinding is annoying because it is overly relying on fishing, and the alternative of blood orb is not very efficient before you get blood orb"
"but what if you just spend more time fishing then you dont have problem not having enough fish for potion making"

if there is an obvious inconvenience it should be fixed instead of trying find all the get around to avoid the problem
as long as it is not due to technical limitation I see no problem with the suggestion

reforging should not reset your attunement for seemingly no reason

[short walrus]

but an inconvenience as minor as that (and was borne out of technical limitations) hardly qualifies

[small timber]

well turns out the most starred suggestion of all time is to flip the sprite on an arrow

not all suggestion must fix a "major problem" in order for it to be valid

[short walrus]

that has precedent
this doesn't

[lucid flare]

damn...

my sugg almost passed

[slender void]

my sugg passed sweet

[tranquil perch]

Neat

[hybrid steeple]

wait actually this is a really cool way to integrate the lore into the gameplay

(even though calamitas didnt actually evaporate it it can still be related to the general burning of the sea kingdom as a whole)

[golden tulip]

wdym calamitas didnt actually evaporate it

[frail mantle]

she wasn't the sole person to fuck it up

she was more of a background element literally bringing hell upon the sea kingdom while the actual war was ongoing

[golden tulip]

hmmm

ic

mustve missed that part then

as far as i remember she was commanded by someone to burn the whole thing down

[grim tusk]

@high folio pretty sure thats a vanilla limitation as goblin clears all NBT data before reforging

Do arsenal weapons keep charge?

Pretty sure they dont

[high folio]

So that means its not possible?

[grim tusk]

IL editing perhaps but idk how much of a pain in the ass would be

[high folio]

Yeah probably not worth to spend this much time on a one time mistake

[inner anvil]

Yes.

Now they do.

[hollow shell]

It is a more recent reinterpretation of the lore

[golden tulip]

ic

is the "great lore rework" like, coming at once or is it gradually being inserted through different means

[inner anvil]

It's been on To-Do for like 2 years.

[golden tulip]

that i know. but has anything come of it yet

[inner anvil]

No.

[golden tulip]

actually, isnt what's on draedon's wiki page new lore?

[inner anvil]

Which one exactly? Draedon's Logs?

[golden tulip]

how he was found by yharim etc

its at the bottom i think

[inner anvil]

At the bottom of where.

[golden tulip]

the wiki page

[inner anvil]

Okay, I mean which wiki page, it's not Exo Mechs, that's for sure.

[golden tulip]

okay nvm i cant find it anymore what the hell

[inner anvil]

Reminder that all the lore was removed.

[golden tulip]

what?

from the wiki?

[eternal escarp]

the wiki lore was removed recently iirc yeah

[golden tulip]

why

[inner anvil]

Because Mrrp didn't want it.

[eternal escarp]

but youre right, that page used to have lore

[inner anvil]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

He ditched the lore.

[golden tulip]

why are you telling me this after we had a whole discussion about lore being on the wiki page

[inner anvil]

Because I don't check this channel 24/7.

[golden tulip]

the discussion was with you osjghhsaghshgs

[inner anvil]

Ah, that one.

[eternal escarp]

i think theres a misunderstanding to what conversation is at hand

[inner anvil]

Uh huh.

[golden tulip]

anyway yea

it was on the exo mechs page then

well if he scrapped all the old lore for real now, the new lore cant be that far

right?

right??

[inner anvil]

😐

[hollow shell]

We are planning on having more bits of in-game lore instead of having big explanations like we had on the wiki/forum before

[inner anvil]

Biomes:

[golden tulip]

scal ingame lore

[inner anvil]

Like, the reworks.

[golden tulip]

[inner anvil]

I guess the Bestiary is also new lore.

[hollow shell]

indeed

[golden tulip]

yea tbf i think the bestiary had helped a shitton with ingame lore integration

[grim tusk]

@high folio its possible

[high folio]

okay i hope it makes it to the suggestions voting

[radiant meadow]

Because the suggestion only said on the initial meteor

But aside from that, how would the game know what tile to convert the ore back to

Unless you just meant one way

Performance is a nonissue
If there's performance issues, it would be because of astral solution as a whole

[summer rock]

guess what

saul goodman skin available now

mute me for off topic do it

[frail mantle]

stop

actually have a warn since you've done this before

[summer rock]

I will stopn't

[frail mantle]

well you either stop memeing in here or you stop talking completely

your choice

[summer rock]

I choose the harder way

https://tenor.com/view/3d-saul-saul-goodman-adamghik-gif-23876766

wait

you took away my gif priveleges

[frail mantle]

warned does that yes

[summer rock]

wait 1 second

ill be right back

[frail mantle]

i'd rather you don't

now stop

strange user

[worthy lintel]

peak comedy

[drowsy plank]

he was so funny everyone forgot to laugh

[bright crag]

Turn it into Platinum on the way back
With Shimmer, you'll be able to downgrade if necessary

[hollow frost]

why is the chaos candle white rarity :(( I'm farming in the underworld and lost it to a dying lava slime burning it out of existence

[drowsy plank]

wtf yeah water is blue

[distant gyro]

because no one pays attention to item rarities

[small timber]

just make all items except for copper, silver and goin coin be immune to lava, problem solved

[distant gyro]

me throwing my guide voodoo doll wondering why it didn't work :clueless:

[small timber]

just make guide voodoo doll spawn WoF as soon as it touches lava but the item itself is not destroyed
I see NO problem with the idea whatsoever

[distant gyro]

the wofpocalypse

[worthy lintel]

the issue is how the guide dies if the doll remains intact

[hollow frost]

the guide just sits in agonising pain until he turns into the wall of flesh by choice

[small timber]

but ya except for like stuff made of wood (and guide's voodoo doll) I dont really see a problem with making items immune to lava tbh

[frosty trellis]

1.4.4 comes out
All your npcs die from throwing it into lava

[cobalt pewter]

Water Candles are non-renewable?

(this is vanilla recipe)

[cobalt pewter]

@hollow frost

[hollow frost]

😳 okay good point

I'll edit

[cobalt pewter]

yeah otherwise the sugg is fine because the items should have the rarity to reflect their position

but I think many furnitures are white despite

despite being later in the game

[hollow frost]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Category:Items_of_rarity_0 astral biome chest is in there lmao idk if that's right

[distant gyro]

all biome chests are rarity 0

[cobalt pewter]

the chests themselves are rarity 0 yes

they're technically replicable in 1.4.4 now

but like

guh....

[distant gyro]

a lot of blocks are also rarity 0

[cobalt pewter]

(1 biome key per 1 chest)

(not a big deal in cal but in vanilla....)

[hollow frost]

😔

[drowsy plank]

you should mention the fact that out of any item, candles are the most prone to being destroyed due to being used in active combat

[small timber]

@trail bane I made an exact same suggestion before but was outright denied

[trail bane]

bruh

f

[cobalt pewter]

I think most bosses would benefit more from being better in spawn positioning

[small timber]

let me see if I can find that old suggestion

[trail bane]

i do however feel like that is a problem, specifically in late game with more specifically D.O.G, sentinals, polterghast, plantera, scal, and a few others

oh yea also the 2 scourges

[short walrus]

all of those examples spawn offscreen

scal's bullet hells are fired from a set direction, so that doesn't count either

[trail bane]

exactly, but they attack so fast that you cant really react to put summoning items away until you are already hit

[trail bane]

fair enough on that one

[short walrus]

dog is literally passive for 10 seconds

[cobalt pewter]

scal will always spawn where her altar is

[trail bane]

ok, then thats just me remembering old dog my b

[small timber]

ok found it

[cobalt pewter]

dog still deals damage on head

and tail actually

[trail bane]

most people even wanted this

[cobalt pewter]

during that brief moment

[small timber]

I never really got a reason why it was denied, it is just more devs dislike the idea more than those that like it I think

[trail bane]

doesent the head do like 90% hp even to melee and usually instakills other classes without dodge?

[short walrus]

you'd have to be an idiot to get hit by either

[cobalt pewter]

it's big damage but I don't think it's that big

probably 60% hp tops

with some equipment

[trail bane]

well im kinda in a blindspot when putting the items awya

[short walrus]

press numbers

[trail bane]

fair enough, i usually play mage

[short walrus]

you can switch between hotbar slots instantly

[trail bane]

thats not how i play

[cobalt pewter]

I play rogue

(which is funny because rogue has stupid amount of survivability)

[small timber]

it is not uncommon for people to use summons from inventory yeah

[trail bane]

and i doubt others use the numbers always too

[small timber]

since you only have 10 slot in hotbar

[cobalt pewter]

anyways

[short walrus]

how many weapons would someone really use anyway

[trail bane]

i usually have mine filled with weapons, summons or essential items

like 5 usually weapons wise with summoner

[small timber]

yeah especially summoner is can be alot

[short walrus]

unless they're doing a challenge

[trail bane]

which im currently doing

[short walrus]

mm, fair enough

[small timber]

things like pickaxes, rod of discord, recall even can also occupy your hotbar

[trail bane]

yeah

unless you ahev that upgraded version much later

[short walrus]

if you're fighting a boss though ideally you wouldn't have tools in it though

[cobalt pewter]

typically you'd put pickaxes off hotbar during fights anyways

[glass arch]

oh wow i do fights wrong then

[cobalt pewter]

plus you rarely need to pull it into hotbar unless you're making specific builds

[trail bane]

same

[cobalt pewter]

magic mirror is the last thing I wanted to put into my hotbar during fights unless hardcore (and mediumcore but who tf cares about that one)

[small timber]

I dont think everyone will manage their hotbar to put away tools (since it can get annoying), for me I even often have platforms in my hotbar when fighting bosses

but yeah tldr I think it is pretty cheap for player to get ambushed by bosses when you are trying to find where it spawns anyway

[trail bane]

also re sumoning sentries

[short walrus]

all of the examples you listed before are post moonlord too, which has access to normality relocator

[cobalt pewter]

just make their spawn better smh my head

[short walrus]

which has a keybind

[small timber]

or this

[trail bane]

theres so many damn keybinds so i just dont bother at this point, i just use the essentials

[small timber]

(this had been approved to be changed btw, and it is basically still like this today)

[cobalt pewter]

only skelly really needed the brief moment because of how you spawn him initially

ok rav are just garbo lmao

[trail bane]

also doesnet goliath attack like, really fast also

[cobalt pewter]

even oreos I think only turn on for a bit after it spawns

[short walrus]

always starts with summons now

[cobalt pewter]

PBG spawns far off screen, and she starts with summon all the time yes

[glass arch]

i always turn on hero's infinite reach to spawn in skele because i dont want to risk getting deleted as soon as i spawn him

[trail bane]

always had trouble with that one

oh yea that guy, probably the biggest offender

other than ravager, fuck that guy

[cobalt pewter]

skelly has this brief moment of thing actually

and prime for some reason?

[trail bane]

also, tad off topic but hot holy hell they need to increse visibility of some boss projectiles

cryogen pisses me off on that matter

[unborn schooner]

they could add custom achivements

that would be nice

[small timber]

waiting for it to be supported by tmodloader iirc

(and they eventually will be added)

[blazing kettle]

achievement for the verboten one when

[ruby plover]

never because fandom should be driven deep into the earth's crust

[sand ermine]

fandom and crossmodding shall be buried alive

[frosty trellis]

The cinders of lament suggestion doesn't really make any sense in that regard because it's a summon that's designed to attack that player, not really as a summon weapon in the strictest sense of the word

[small timber]

(3rd try is the charm) sorry if I ding dong ditch (if there are any problem), I will be back in ~10 minutes

[lost valley]

Holy based idea

[tardy geyser]

its about being able to control what your minions attack not the brothers from cinders. i was confused too at first since the suggestion doesnt address that

[frosty trellis]

Ah ic

[small timber]

except for anahita I dont see a problem with the suggestion

but if they didn't change it anahita is less aggressive when you have wet debuff (which is applied by her bubble)
yes it is a weird mechanic but it exist(ed?)

not sure if this is still the case

[fathom aspen]

Anahita&Levithan and/or other ocean themed enemies can be an exception

[cobalt pewter]

yes

water gun meta

[fathom aspen]

but it's so weird that I have to Water Gun a Zombie to apply wet even when it's raining

[swift wharf]

overhaul !! anyways I think this would be cool like other items that function during events

so it rewards the player for using smth during the event

[cobalt pewter]

@fathom aspen also forgot to mention but the wording of the title can be made better

if you wanted this to apply to just enemies (which would be weird since players can technically be applied with wet too), title could be something like

Make rain apply "Wet" debuff to enemies directly under it.

also while this is a bizarre case, technically remix seed in 1.4.4 allows raining in the cavern (or Remix's surface / underground) layer

but it doesn't have impact to the sugg

[fathom aspen]

ok got it

[short walrus]

@hollow shard why should the spawnrate change?

battle potions and water candles help significantly

[lavish condor]

I feel like blighted gel is already common enough. I always have more than enough and if I don't it doesn't take too long to get more

[fervent orbit]

if anything that will make it funnier

[small timber]

is rover drive no longer provide a 50 damage shield but instead only increase your max hp by 50 intentional?

[cobalt pewter]

isn't the dmg shield just effectively EHP

[frosty trellis]

No, the DMG shield actually gives you extra hp in your health bar that you can visibly see

So long as the shield exists

[cobalt pewter]

interesting

[small timber]

currently this is how the shield works now: basically it increase your max hp but don't touch your current hp bar

aka: if you got hit, your current hp bar decrease, and when shield regenerate it don't regen the 50 max hp you gain

so you basically get a temporary +50 max hp buff

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

Which is

Slightly broken imo

[soft quest]

there is so much accessories and mechanics elating to being under-water in this game that I sometimes feel like you're expected to make a water arena

Deep diver, ambergris, victide, fathom swarmer, omega blue, mollusk, aquatic heart, abyssal amulet etc.

[frosty trellis]

Gets my cheat sheet endless water bucket
Well, I mean, if we are expecting you to make one, then might as well give you the tools to make it

[small timber]

The Menacing Community sounds even weirder

[umbral sonnet]

no

[small timber]

and for consistency it is better to use the same for every accessory/item that starts with "The"

[umbral sonnet]

it really doesnt

[gray nebula]

The toxic community

[small timber]

The Menacing Community completely changes the meaning of the item

[umbral sonnet]

oh yes

and Menacing abagails flower sounds so nice

[small timber]

Menacing The Community is "(modifier) The Community"
The Menacing Community is "(a particular) community that is menacing"

[gray nebula]

I mean

Menacing the community is funny

it's what I do when I start seeing people start having bad ideas

[glass arch]

the only thing i know of that puts the modifier behind the "The" is The Penetrator from fargos soul mod

[umbral sonnet]

violent the scourge

thats another one

[umbral sonnet]

?

[gray nebula]

it's a joke about the action of "menacing the community"

[umbral sonnet]

the whole point of the modifiers is changing the nature of the item itself, the reason a menacing modifier does more damage is because the accessory itself is now menacing

ah

[gray nebula]

as in, threatening the community

hilarious pun

[umbral sonnet]

I thought you were making fun of me or him

i was confused for a second

i get it now

its not you

its me

i cant read social cues

[gray nebula]

nw

[hollow shell]

Are there examples of vanilla moving the position of the modifier?

[drowsy plank]

@umbral sonnet there are 36 items in calamity that start with 'the'. 31 of these are weapons, 24 of them modded, 5 are accessories, 4 of them are modded. none of them work this way.

they all put modifier before the

[hollow shell]

same time lmao

[drowsy plank]

i just tested them all

the old reaper
the atom splitter
the final dawn
the storm
the sevens striker
the pack
the maelstrom
the jailor
the hive
the ballista
the obliterator
the mutilator
the microwave
the last mouring
the god's gambit
the enforcer
the burning sky
the oracle
the wand
the swarmer
the prince
the dance of light
the anomaly's nanogun

the bee's knees
the rotted fork
the meatball
the axe
the breaker
the undertaker
the horseman's blade

the absorber
the transformer
the first shadowflame
the evolution

the plan```

list btw

for reference

[hollow shell]

I personally enjoy having the modifier at the very start even if it's incorrect grammatically

cuz I think it's funny

[glass arch]

the only example of the modifier being behind the the that ive seen is with the penetrator from fargos souls

[drowsy plank]

do you mean infront of the 'the'

[glass arch]

no

if i have godly on it its name is changed to "The Godly Penetrator"

[drowsy plank]

ah that's what i meant

positioning w/e

but yeah it would be weird for cal to change considering even vanilla doesnt

[glass arch]

should there be a suggestion for some boss or event summons to have their recipes altered so they are obtainable before said event or boss?

[frosty trellis]

Already denied several times

[hollow shell]

You mean like Teratoma?

[swift wharf]

Uhhh

Isn't the last suggestion like

[hollow shell]

That one is probably a bug fix yeah

[swift wharf]

A vanilla feature

[hollow shell]

Probably

[swift wharf]

I mean when you place smth in front of a door it wont open

[hollow shell]

No

[swift wharf]

because there is something in front of a door

[hollow shell]

In vanilla, the door will open the opposite way if the normal way is blocked and the opposite side is free

[swift wharf]

Oh I see

That's from 1.4 right tho

Cuz I remember you having to face a direction to open it

[glass arch]

yeah, i can see why it'd get denied but for evil2 and acid rain you're stuck if you're unlucky with spawns

[hollow shell]

Acid Rain is guaranteed after killing EoC I thought

[swift wharf]

Yeah

[frosty trellis]

It is guarenteed

[swift wharf]

If there's no chat message, just go to sulph sea

[frosty trellis]

The instant you enter the seas it's guarenteed to spawn

But you could also just leave and then if it despawns you have to wait until post AS for another guarenteed

Which Ik some players do bc they think they aren't ready

[glass arch]

ohh i thought it was the chance every frame no matter what

[swift wharf]

t1 is useful for like

rogue

[frosty trellis]

Yeah a 1/360,000

Every frame

[hollow shell]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Acid_Rain#Notes

tis here

Admittedly it's semi buried in the Notes section so, can't really blame you for not knowing

[glass arch]

yeah

[swift wharf]

A message that indicates it would be nice

[hollow shell]

But for the Evil2 bosses yes we intentionally made it so the spawn items are only available after the boss
because item spawns are BORING

[glass arch]

true

[swift wharf]

[swift wharf]

the problem with this would be if you already visited the ssea

so you would get 2 messages

[hollow shell]

Yes it seems like there is no EoC defeat message indicating that AR can begin to occur

There is only a message for once you arrive at the sea

so

Someone can make a suggestion about that

[hollow shell]

wdym

[swift wharf]

I am pretty sure that you get the acid rain spawn message as soon as eoc dies if you visited the sulph sea before

[glass arch]

i thought there had been something that showed up in chat once you killed eoc

[hollow shell]

That sounds wack

[swift wharf]

or maybe I am extremely lucky and a random one spawned

[hollow shell]

In the past there was, cuz AR would start instantly upon EoC dying
However that was kinda unfair because AR eventually stops if you haven't killed any enemies from it for a while (so that it's not permanently raining in your world)
And with basically pre-boss movement and survivability, it's hard to get to the Sulph Sea on time

[umbral sonnet]

thats why im saying, they should

[glass arch]

it works fine as is

[drowsy plank]

i think other people have pointed out how this kind of messes with the meaning of "modifiers". bc it isn't 'The Menacing Community' is is A 'Menacing The Community'. plus it would be a pain in the ass to maintain every item with 'the' to have this condition. im sure there are other items that have this problem too. it's just a lot of work, and for what?

[umbral sonnet]

that is true

[hot zephyr]

no robot disrespect

[inner anvil]

No robot disrespect.

[frosty trellis]

Just.... Turn off your sounds

All summons have sounds

And none of them allow you to turn them off manually

No reason for this

[fervent orbit]

"u dont understand!!1! wat if someone doesnt know how to do thiiiiiss??/?"

[hybrid steeple]

All robot and computers must shut the hell up
To all machines: You do not speak unless spoken to
▶️ And I will NEVER speak to you ◀️
I do not want to hear "Beep" from a Wulfrum Droid
I am a Divine being : You are an Object
You have no right to speak in my Holy Tongue

[frosty trellis]

PFFFFF

I NEED THAT COPYPASTA FOR LATER

[upbeat yacht]

to be fair, most summons only have attack sounds while controller also has idle sounds

[frosty trellis]

Annoying is still subjective and I don't see why this is needed

Just turn off your sounds or don't use the summon if you hate it so much

[upbeat yacht]

me sending people from #help-advice-read-pins to write improperly formatted and barely thought out suggs so that #suggestions-discussion has to deal with them (i'm feeling delightfully devilish today)

[frosty trellis]

Woooooooow

[drowsy plank]

common suggester L

[swift wharf]

[eternal escarp]

@dusk zenith you need to explain why

a sugg needs reasoning

[dusk zenith]

Oh sorry

There you go

[tardy smelt]

I agree with this suggestion

[drowsy plank]

this is really hard to read lmfao

@dusk zenith do you mean weapons you can fish up? or... fish themed

[dusk zenith]

fish themed

[dusk zenith]

also sorry, i wrote it up while getting back home

[drowsy plank]

there are plenty, you even listed a bunch, and that reasoning sucks

i think adding more weapons obtainable by fishing them up would be cool but there are a ton of ocean themed weapons already, i could list them there's probably more than in preHM and HM combined

[drowsy plank]

ball o' fugu, urchin flail, urchin mace, archerfish, dragoon drizzlefish, black anurian, sparkling empress, herring staff, magic conch, seabound staff, polyp launcher, cnidarian, fishbone boomerang, lionfish, purple clubberfish, swordfish, minishark, frost daggerfish

hardmode

floodtide, greentide, mantis claws, typhon's greed, leviatitan, megalodon, barracuda gun, flak kraken, sea's searing, polaris parrotfish, hadal urn, forgotten apex wand, deepsea staff, gastric belcher staff, shellfish staff, orthocera shell, skyfin bombers, leviathan teeth, garcruxian mollusk, bladetongue, obsidian swordfish, flarion, megashark, toxicarp, piranha gun, tempest staff

post-ML

the malestrom, alluvion, monsoon, sdfmg, seadragon, storm dragoon, voiddragon, svantechnical?, halibut cannon, fetid emesis, vitrolic viper, calimari's lament, cadaverous carrion, valediction, s.d.m.g.```

ok i went and counted them out and there's plenty of fish themed post-ML items

ignoring the fact that this reasoning is just "because it would be cool to have fish themed stuff"

[swift wharf]

alluvion monsoon seadragon storm dragon giant snake birthday cake large fries chocolate shake

[drowsy plank]

lmfao

[devout shell]

Halibut cannon is TECHNICALLY hardmode

But nobody in their right mind would fight AEW seconds after getting a rod of discord

[frosty trellis]

Considering no more coldheart no one in their right minds would fight AEW pre exos

[hollow shell]

I thought this was already impossible

[hollow shell]

Do you have other mods that affect worldgen?

[idle swallow]

yes

best of both worlds?

[hollow shell]

That one might have an effect, but unlikely
Any others?

[idle swallow]

hm

let me check

[hollow shell]

The meteor is always supposed to crash on the Dungeon side of the world afaik

because of exactly this

[idle swallow]

begone evil, victima mod rebirth

think thats it

very interesting

did create a half-assed one though

[hollow shell]

Never heard of the latter before and info seems kinda sparse

[idle swallow]

begone evil? disable evil biome spread

[hollow shell]

No, Victima

[idle swallow]

actually im not even sure if victima adds world gen

Victima Mod currently adds:

• 140+ new items;
• 6 new armor sets;
• 8 new NPCs;
• 2 new bosses;
• 1 new ore;
• throwing class;
• russian translate;

[hollow shell]

It doesn't look like it affects worldgen that much, but
I've never seen this issue before and I've never seen that mod before
So I'm willing to bet that it's the cause, of the possible possibilities

[idle swallow]

it is the likely cause

[hollow shell]

🤷

[idle swallow]

i mean its not really an issue though

just weird

[hollow shell]

we do provide astral solution at all times for a reason, yeah

You should be able to do everything using your lil artificial biome, as long as you got the altar and astral ore blocks

[idle swallow]

off-topic, should i finish omori

[hollow shell]

LOL
Uh yeah I'd recommend it
Try to refresh yourself on the story thusfar if you're resuming a save and it's been a while

[idle swallow]

oh, has it?

lmfao

my xbox gamepass has expired

so it's gotta be worth it

[hollow shell]

You said "should i finish", so I assume you started it and got a good amount through, but haven't touched it in a while

[idle swallow]

yep

[hollow shell]

But uh yeah very good story very good ending
One of my favorite game stories

[idle swallow]

this is also a recurring thing

for me

[hollow shell]

I feel that

But yeah offtopic

[idle swallow]

have a good day tho

[hollow shell]

[tardy geyser]

drunk world?

[idle swallow]

nope

[tardy geyser]

why tf are the hives so big then

[idle swallow]

fargo's best of both worlds mod

[tardy geyser]

oh ok, didnt know it did that

[idle swallow]

does a lot of cool things

[deft yew]

slightly random but what do we think of crystal assassin nerf?

[spark ether]

Please make compatibility with advanced worldgen pls. i want super massive worlds with calamity stuff <3

[sullen swan]

never used it

[tardy smelt]

Whats the nerf anyway?

[fair radish]

I just posted about it

Calamity removes the 10% damage and 10% crit from the set bonus

Making Crystal Assassin armor a Putrid Scent

You gain an extra accessory slot but you lose so much damage that it simply isn't worth it

Unless I'm missing something, a Tabi dash isn't broken by any means when SoC can bonk and Counter Scarf can dodge attacks

Reminder you DONT gain iframes from dashing through an enemy with Crystal Assassin armor

I should absolutely make sure to include that in the post because that is a MASSIVE factor that actually goes against a CA nerf, not in favor of it

[hollow shell]

Hm yes it does seem that Crystal Assassin was over-nerfed from what you're sayin here

Plus the fact that it's post 1 Hardmode boss, while Cobalt and Palladium are post-WoF

[fair radish]

I never checked the Mollusk armor in terms of stats but a quick glance at the wiki tells me despite the movement speed nerfs Mollusk armor also seems significantly better than Crystal Assassin

[frosty trellis]

Mollesk Armor is really fucking powerful but the ms nerf is extreme

So it's generally not advised to use it

[fair radish]

I'd still probably use it over CA if forced to use either tbh

[frosty trellis]

Oh for sure

[fair radish]

The damage and crit is worthless and the dash is negligible since you'll already have Counter Scarf

[frosty trellis]

The offensive and defensive stats are kinda obscene

Just you lose a lot of ms from it

[fair radish]

Right

Kinda like the opposite of CA, tanky and slow instead of light and fast

Kinda cool that they're like counterparts to each other

Well except CA sucks in Calamity

[grave zinc]

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Exo Mechs "choice" Description Wording More Hinting Towards Their Referred Mechs]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@tranquil perch - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Change the way SCal creates her arena]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Buff Frost Armor To Be On-Par With Other Post-Tier 3 Hardmode Ore Armors]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Revamp the Various Dodge Effect So The Early Ones Are No Longer Too Weak]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[tranquil perch]

alright cool

[grave zinc]

@slender void - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Prevent Astral Infection from falling onto evil biome]

It has been reviewed by the devs, and for one reason or another they decided it would be best not to implement it.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@oak sage - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rancor, to be extra cool and lore accurate, has special interaction with water]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Rework (Revengeance+) Hallowed Armor Into a Proper Dodge Effect]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

@molten haven - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Allow Thanatos to be targeted with summon weapon right clicks]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[thorn dock]

Hm I really like magilumescense but it doesn't really fit the ninja theme. A ninja hides and moves unnoticed, yet magilumescense makes the user emit light.

How does the 1.25x acceleration/ deceleration perform scal wise?

[small timber]

magiluminescence effect on scal should be dependent on the player

player who are good at the fight will appreciate it since it basically make their movement more precise, but for player who are not familiar with the fight it likely dont really do much help

either way it is probably something you will get used to after like 3-4 fights on scal

[tardy smelt]

A bit late to the party here, but, would this make for good suggestion material?

[small timber]

sure, see no problem with it

[short walrus]

more archmage uses letsgo!

[small timber]

it will be a bit weird that it (likely) have to be boss tied, other than that should be good

[tardy smelt]

I'll write down the suggestion in a jiffy

[small timber]

oh wait I never noticed, it was always boss tied anyway, except the first one, which I assume can be just get it as soon as permafrost is rescued

[short walrus]

what is this "they" we are referring to i wasn't there for the conversation

mage permanent upgrades?

[small timber]

comet shard = on rescue (cryogen) [currently is HM preboss]
ethereal core = lunatic cultist/deus [currently require astral bar + nebula fragment]
phantom heart = polterghast [currently need ruinous soul]

[short walrus]

awesome

[small timber]

not sure what you are referring to, but probably yeah

[short walrus]

i cannot read

[short walrus]

i was confused by this

it was boss tied anyway,
and i didn't know what the it was

[tardy smelt]

^

[frozen hornet]

What if instead of crafting it you have to do some sort of quest and perma gives you the increased mana

[short walrus]

yeah thats an awesome idea

[small timber]

classic RPG quest system: to get this 100 exp please kill 10 sheep and 20 chicken in the farm

[distant gyro]

angler 2

[short walrus]

angler but actually cool

[tardy smelt]

that's exactly what my idea was :p

[frail mantle]

@mystic umbra no

[mystic umbra]

NOOOOO

[chrome jetty]

pls make toilet of annihilation

🙏

[frail mantle]

L + ratio + meme suggestions aren't allowed + cope and seethe + don't care + no + not funny + cat showing middle finger emoji

[mystic umbra]

but it isnt really a meme suggestion either

[safe oasis]

fcukyoy

[short walrus]

toilet suggestion (you will die soon)

[mystic umbra]

we have the toilet series already why not add more

[chrome jetty]

its not a meme tho

theres auric, exo so add one from scal

[hybrid steeple]

rest in peace sacrilegious toilet 😔
shot dead by leon before it could live

[cobalt pewter]

annihilation toilet

more like

annihilate everyone who even thinks toilets should be relevant

[frail mantle]

annihilate toilets

that would be pretty funny i think

[cobalt pewter]

yes.

[safe oasis]

this has different meanings

[mystic umbra]

oh no

[frail mantle]

annihilate toilets from existence

[tardy smelt]

Fcukyoy

Or something

[chrome jetty]

we need toilet of annihliation

😭

[short walrus]

we really, really don't

[chrome jetty]

we do

[cobalt pewter]

we need the likes of you to perish I think

THAT would be funny

[short walrus]

true

[chrome jetty]

who said toilet of annihilation is supposed to be funny

[short walrus]

especially if there's screaming

[mystic umbra]

calamity players try not to be angry or aggressive challenge

[chrome jetty]

theres auric toilet, exo toilet so there should be a scal one

[swift wharf]

toilet of annihilation is real tho
It's in the fandom wiki

[chrome jetty]

calamity players try not to deathwish challenge

[frail mantle]

give an actual reason to add one and i'll consider unexclaiming it

[short walrus]

calamity meme suggestors try not to be fucking braindead challenge

[chrome jetty]

this is an actual reason

[swift wharf]

it is not

this community cannot handle the addition of toilets

[safe oasis]

it's only pointing out a pattern and suggesting something that would expand the pattern, not really giving a reason for that expansion

[frail mantle]

stating the reason here isn't gonna do anything for the actual suggestion

if you want to genuinely argue for adding a toilet to the sacrilegious set put the reasons in the suggestion

[cobalt pewter]

byeah since it's already exclaimed it'll be gone anyways

[mystic umbra]

alr ill post another one

[frail mantle]

you can just edit

[safe oasis]

no just edit it

[short walrus]

don't

[safe oasis]

j

[mystic umbra]

done

[cobalt pewter]

this is just a roundabout

lmao

don't get me wrong, I completely despise cal adding their own toilets and it should never be a thing

I'd rather them get rid of all modded toilets than adding even one more

[small timber]

devs are allowed to add whatever joke they want, meanwhile joke suggestion is disallowed

as simple as that

[mystic umbra]

man what the toilets do to you 😰

[frail mantle]

honestly you'd probably be fine if you just said "the exo furniture set has a toilet so the sacrilegious set should have one too for consistency's sake"

[frail mantle]

literally nothing

i just don't think it's remotely funny

[cobalt pewter]

vanilla ones are enough for the purpose of poo blocks in 1.4.4 (which, as much as I would've expected otherwise has a purpose)

but Terra Toilet is just ????

and Auric toilets

[mystic umbra]

i was talking to him since he outright wants them removed but oh well

[mystic umbra]

they didnt have a purpose before 1.4.4

[frail mantle]

byeah i think this reasoning is wack as hell but i'm willing to unexclaim it if you just mention something about consistency between the sacrilegious and exo furniture sets

[mystic umbra]

i mean i kinda did

ill rewrite it

[frail mantle]

no guarantees it'll be accepted if it reaches dev, of course, but i'll let it pass into voting

(unless someone else that comes through has any other valid concerns regarding it)

[mystic umbra]

🤷

ok

[frail mantle]

good enough

[deft yew]

wait are there sacrilegious and exo toilets

[mystic umbra]

there is an exo toilet but not a sacrilegious one

thats what im suggesting for them to add rn

[gray nebula]

it wont be accepted

[mystic umbra]

[fervent orbit]

mmm yes a toilet to burn my ass when i decide to make poo blocks

[keen zodiac]

cauterize your asshole today!

[robust lava]

Why is this doors sugg in voting when it is A) a bug fix, and B) an issue with tML, which Ben literally reported to tML to get fixed https://github.com/tModLoader/tModLoader/issues/3052

[keen zodiac]

big brain time

[drowsy plank]

people still suggest for the Mana and Health UIs to be updated even tho tmod doesnt support changing them yet so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

another case of sugg-posting sucking ass

[ruby plover]

Oh come on, why do toilet suggestions exist

[frail mantle]

people think it's funny

[unreal viper]

Potty humor.

As I’ve ages and matured, I’ve started to recognize that my peers will never be funny.

[gilded scroll]

yeah, my wulfrum toilet suggestion all the way back in the past was a pretty shitty joke....
hahahahahahahaha
ill stop

[drowsy plank]

@supple hare specific item suggestions are not allowed, please read the rules in the pins and delete the sugg

oh btw @unreal viper there's already plans for a pre-Boss melee armor, so maybe Fossil could do something else? plus i think changing its class entirely might be a bit too much.

Necro and Fossil really got the short end of the stick in Calamity, huh.

[supple hare]

Tis a shame, but I shall do so. Thank you for informing me.

[drowsy plank]

👍

[little stag]

why tho
like, it's weird for an endgame furniture set have a block that the other one doesn't have, isn't it?

[gray nebula]

:r

not really

cuz the exo set is the one thats weird for having a toilet while the other sets dont

[gilded scroll]

i think the whole draedon armor thing kinda correlates into my suggestion of expanding the draedon arsenal
which uh, does not factor in armor.

[maiden narwhal]

do you guys like my suggesting

suggestion

[glass arch]

not really

[gilded scroll]

nope, sorry mate

[maiden narwhal]

okay

[gilded scroll]

its uh....bad

[maiden narwhal]

why

[glass arch]

it doesnt make sense to have that armor plus all the other armors you have at that stage of the game

[gilded scroll]

what he said

[maiden narwhal]

okay

[gilded scroll]

we already have Gem Tech armor craftable from Exo Prism, but thats Donor Armor, not offical Exo Armor

the official Exo Set is most probably going to be Miracle Matter plus some other components. maybe the Dubious Circuitry and such. we dont know

[tardy smelt]

I think it'll be miracle matter

[maiden narwhal]

i just thought maybe having one armor set pre hardmode, one hardmode, and one post ml, and the power weapons would be able to work in conjuction with these armor sets

i really dont see how it can be a bad idea

[tardy smelt]

Much like how demonshade will likely be with ashes of annihilation

[inner anvil]

You kill testers because we need to balance it, there's the problem.

[gilded scroll]

and then probably another armor set for general use. maybe

[maiden narwhal]

wdym

[frosty trellis]

It's a miracle matter set and we were told it's the defensive set

[hollow shell]

@storm basin Discuss suggestions in this channel

[inner anvil]

We need to balance it champ.

[maiden narwhal]

dont call me that its cringe

[hollow shell]

But uh yeah Fir that reasoning is pretty weak in your suggestion there

[storm basin]

ok

[gilded scroll]

and the testers, programmers, and spriters have better things to do anyways

[maiden narwhal]

i dont see how its that bad but i guess it wasnt a very good one

my mistak

[inner anvil]

Cope.

[storm basin]

@maiden narwhal we do not need chargeable armor

[inner anvil]

Anyways, eh suggestion.

[maiden narwhal]

maybe i will

[maiden narwhal]

why not

[frosty trellis]

Very eh, very weak reasoning

We will be getting an exo armor anyways, no reason to make some armor anyways

[lucid flare]

whoops my Armor ran out of battery! *dies*

[frosty trellis]

And I don't see how it would make sense in terms of draedon himself

[storm basin]

chargeable

[frosty trellis]

Since an arsenel is in terms of weapons and not necessarily armor

[maiden narwhal]

ohh yeah

[tardy smelt]

Can't be worse than "my little pogchamp" or something like that

I should call people that ironically

[storm basin]

god i fucking hated when that shit was popular

[tardy smelt]

Maybe

Seems funny

[maiden narwhal]

i see champ as a deragatory term

tahts why it was weird

[storm basin]

champ

[inner anvil]

Well, I don't, I ain't English, don't put the blames on me.

[maiden narwhal]

youve probably given me the most valid reason as to why the armor wouldnt make sense, thanks for not being a dick abt it

[inner anvil]

I can call you a champion.

[maiden narwhal]

thats also cringe

just dont call me anything

[frosty trellis]

Np.

[maiden narwhal]

its ironically easier than saying champ

[gilded scroll]

cope, my little pogchamp

:D

[maiden narwhal]

: (

[frosty trellis]

Okay now that's just flat out rude

[storm basin]

i just said we dont need chargeable armor

[gilded scroll]

yah, fair

[tardy smelt]

Campeón

[inner anvil]

Can't really stop me.

[maiden narwhal]

but why

okay bro chill

ik i cant im just saying its cringe

[gilded scroll]

anyways, i go now

[maiden narwhal]

i didnt say i could stop you

[ruby plover]

calling people "champ", "bud", and "my friend" my beloved

[storm basin]

its inconvenient

[tardy smelt]

@ruby plover

[ruby plover]

eeE

[tardy smelt]

[ruby plover]

ive been spotted

[inner anvil]

Anyways, not enough reasoning for adding it.

[tardy smelt]

The dog has been patted

[storm basin]

does draedon use armor

isnt his body just armor anyways

[gilded scroll]

its a recon body

sooooo- idfek

[maiden narwhal]

there are so many things in this game that are argueably "inconvinient"

[storm basin]

not as inconvenient as waiting for stuff to charge

its why i never use draedonry

[maiden narwhal]

it takes like 2 minutes

its not that bad

jesus

[storm basin]

i dont like waiting 2 minutes

[maiden narwhal]

plus thered be more to it than just "oh your armor died? so did you"

[inner anvil]

Okay, enough of this circled discussion, just tell us why we need to add it.

[storm basin]

i never said anything about armor dying in middle of a fight

[maiden narwhal]

idk i just thought it made sense and wouldve made for a cool new armor set to add

[storm basin]

Fair enough

[gilded scroll]

tbh, the dev team is probably working on more important stuff right now anyways, like the biome reworks

[inner anvil]

Well, being cool is a reason to not add it.

[ruby plover]

well, small things can of course be added and changed along the way

[inner anvil]

We have a document with things that you can't suggest.

[storm basin]

are boss reworks planned or

[swift wharf]

isn't auric tesla kind of yharmy armor

[frosty trellis]

It being "cool" is not a valid reason as depicted by the don't doc that's pinned in #suggestions-posting

[ruby plover]

but you'd need a pretty darn good reason to add a whole new armour set out of nowhere

[maiden narwhal]

well duh, thats why its a suggestion, id rather them dish out the over-adbundent bugs first

[gilded scroll]

fuck if i know, im not on the dev team, im just some random on the discord

[maiden narwhal]

damn you guys really know how to party

[frosty trellis]

There are a number of reworks planned iirc

[inner anvil]

Well, we can't add everything that people say it's "Cool".

[storm basin]

i dont wanna read a whole ass doc i just want an answer

[maiden narwhal]

okay

[frosty trellis]

Signus, Yharon and Exos being the three bosses that I know for certain are getting reworked

[swift wharf]

and draedon arsenal is manly yharmy gear, ergo auric tesla is arsenal armor

[inner anvil]

We would never stop adding things and we wouldn't be able to finish the mod.

So yeah, some rules need to be there.

[maiden narwhal]

oh okay that makes sense

[inner anvil]

So yeah, if you can bring like actual reasoning, a "Why", then we'll see.

And if you don't, well, then just delete the suggestion.

[maiden narwhal]

well there is no reason other than that it would be cool and a fun little thing to add

[inner anvil]

Then there's really not anything you can do.

[maiden narwhal]

okay

[swift wharf]

Charged armor would be really fucking cool but yeah no other reasoning beyond that

[maiden narwhal]

see

[swift wharf]

you could argue that it would expand upon the entire arsenal, since rn it's mainly tools and weapons used by yharim's servants

[maiden narwhal]

this guy gets it

[eternal escarp]

every block you lose 1 (one) percent

[inner anvil]

Okay, let's be fair, if we did it, it wouldn't be 1 percent.

[swift wharf]

or it would work as a battery for your weapons

[maiden narwhal]

YES

[eternal escarp]

thats boring and ruins the point of a charging weapon

imo

[maiden narwhal]

the weapons would connect with a wire or something

[swift wharf]

simply don't do that

ez

anyways power armor

[eternal escarp]

if you make the weapon need battery and then invalidate that need why does it need battery

[glass arch]

the only real way id see it working was the defense was higher based off charge

[sage drum]

ah, i love waiting 2 minutes to charge my armor on my 50th attempt on scal

[eternal escarp]

anyway people already discussed this sugg so yeah

[inner anvil]

(People really don't like to wait).

[maiden narwhal]

clearly

[eternal escarp]

too bad imo

go build

play golf

[swift wharf]

If you find enough reasoning I think the suggestion will be valid

[crude geode]

Average cal player when they have to wait 2 seconds (this is ruining their playthrough)

[lucid flare]

it doesn't even take 2 minutes it takes like 20 seconds to charge a weapon

[eternal escarp]

insert rover quote here

[inner anvil]

It's a shame we scrapped the idea of making the codebreaker take 30 minutes to decode a schematic.

[maiden narwhal]

i really dont think there is any other reason other than it would be badass

[sage drum]

20 seconds x 50 attempts = 16 minutes

[swift wharf]

I literally gave some valid reasoning to add it sobbing

[eternal escarp]

if it takes you 50 attempts

use the charge weapon sparingly

theres enough options on tier

lo

[maiden narwhal]

they will still sadly be party poopers and not add it

[sage drum]

this is an armor discussion

[swift wharf]

just make the charge very big

yeah this chat got really aggressive for no reason

[sage drum]

it's about something something exo armor

[eternal escarp]

even valid sugg dont get added so

[crude geode]

TRUE

[swift wharf]

yea

[glass arch]

indeed

[swift wharf]

arsenal armor doesn't have to be exo auuuuuugh

[eternal escarp]

the entire point of this channel is to filter suggestions, so the better formstted and reasoned ones reach dev

[lucid flare]

my omega swag suggestion of removing frost barrier didn't even pass through voting

[inner anvil]

First you need to pass this channel, then you need to pass through the public, and then you need to pass between the devs and testers.

[sage drum]

there will be no motivation to use armor that takes forever to charge as opposed to auric/gem tech

[swift wharf]

draedon arsenal isn't exo at all which fucker mentioned it in the first place

[maiden narwhal]

ill look

[eternal escarp]

yeah they are different things

doesnt matter though i suppose

[sage drum]

i still refuse to charge my armor after every death

[swift wharf]

replace auric with cool arsenal armor

[maiden narwhal]

okay bro youre one person

[swift wharf]

😈

[sage drum]

1 weapon vs 3 armor is kinda a decent sized difference

[ruby plover]

that would have been good lol

[crude geode]

replace auric with actual individual armor for each class

[eternal escarp]

trueee

grrr auric...

[maiden narwhal]

YES BRO, it actually makes sense too cuz where tf did auric come from, what if every class got a draedon weapon unlocked after yharon dies

[eternal escarp]

(i dont have a real opinion

[inner anvil]

I know, right?

[sage drum]

beta testers become very very pain

[swift wharf]

yharmy armor real

[crude geode]

Yharmy is all in your head

[maiden narwhal]

and then you can also craft an draedon armor with like tarragon and bloodfare plus other stuff

[swift wharf]

it's canon

[inner anvil]

Like, that idea was so you do whatever the fuck you want, like farming, or building, while the schematic is decoding.

[sage drum]

dragonskin armor when

[ruby plover]

good ol making people focus on the non-boss content

[swift wharf]

read the tooltips....

[eternal escarp]

we should make Amidias force the player into a golf match

imo

,.,.

[sage drum]

maybe times 6 becomes a slightly worse idea

[lucid flare]

just rework the thing and make it actually good instead of meshing 3 armors into 1 because i like my 5 helmet armors

[eternal escarp]

hsve to play golf atleast once every playthrough

[ruby plover]

"just" rework

heh

[lucid flare]

"just" rework

[sage drum]

who uses amidias

[crude geode]

cope harder on 5 helmets being bad

[swift wharf]

anything is better than current auric

[eternal escarp]

you would now if he offered to play golf..,.,.

silly.....

[tardy smelt]

[crude geode]

True

[lucid flare]

"cope harder" assumes i care

[ruby plover]

i would play golf with amidias

[crude geode]

Make pre-generate golf courses

[ruby plover]

he seems nice

[crude geode]

In calamity

[sage drum]

okay, i am kind of interested now

[swift wharf]

amidias gives you the shell golf club (prized possession among the sea habitants)

[eternal escarp]

i should

[sage drum]

integration to subworld update

[eternal escarp]

get someone on this idra

[tardy smelt]

Current Daedalus is also kinda bad

[eternal escarp]

wheres YuH when you need him

[tardy smelt]

Also

[sage drum]

why do we need a dog pocket dimension when we have GOLF COURSE

[swift wharf]

I HATE DAEDALUS

[tardy smelt]

How's my suggestion

[crude geode]

Fine

[sage drum]

who is this daedalus

[eternal escarp]

wasnt it suggested already

[lucid flare]

dog pocket dimenion is the golf course

[eternal escarp]

recently

[swift wharf]

EXACTLY

[hollow shell]

Good suggestion I liked this idea when it came up a few days/weeks ago

[lucid flare]

i think it was just discussed

[eternal escarp]

yeah i remembered this idea being posted not too long ago

[sage drum]

how does dog hold a golf club

[eternal escarp]

i do agree though

[tardy smelt]

Yup, I remembered that

[lucid flare]

he has a mouth

[eternal escarp]

2 astral buffs and then dungeon, one could easily become permafrost

[crude geode]

My problem is just

Why permafrost instead of Wizard

[tardy smelt]

I never made it into an actual suggestion at the time though

[eternal escarp]

becausd permafrost is

cooler...

[sage drum]

this is a horrifying yet thrilling image

[eternal escarp]

😎

[tardy smelt]

Wizard already has a purpose

[swift wharf]

cold_face

[tardy smelt]

Permafrost doesn't

[sage drum]

because no one ever uses permafrost

also, permafrost is arguably better at magic in lore

[crude geode]

Does he (crystal ball does not count)

[swift wharf]

wizard has one (one) purpose though

[eternal escarp]

and yeah wizard is like, lol lmao skidoodle
and sometimes annoying to find id say

[tardy smelt]

Just spread the functionalities across them

[swift wharf]

which is rod I think

[eternal escarp]

permafrost is adding an incentive to actually speak to him

[tardy smelt]

Luck and music boxes

[crude geode]

Purchasable Rod my beloathed

[sage drum]

actually, permafrost has one purpose

[swift wharf]

wait luck

[sage drum]

fulfulling your super mana addiction

[tardy smelt]

^

[tardy smelt]

Mana potions are

Bleh

Natural mana recharge is enough usually

[little stag]

oh right I thought other sets also had it

[sage drum]

you mean you don't chug mana constantly while fighting?

[crude geode]

I just don’t see the purpose of TWO Wizard npcs

[sage drum]

maybe that's why mage is so weak

[lucid flare]

but what if i don't want to release the mouse button

[crude geode]

Mage*

[swift wharf]

lore ofc

[half sage]

permafrost when it takes me 3 in game months to remember to even give him a house:

[sage drum]

the snow needs something to make it interesting

[tardy smelt]

No I don't

[sage drum]

devs making new biomes instead of actually adding purposes to the old ones

[glass arch]

i chug mana pots usually

[eternal escarp]

he doesnt know

[lucid flare]

the mana flowers stays on during the entire playthrough

[tardy smelt]

I also thought of the method of acquisition being like

[swift wharf]

he lacks critical information

[sage drum]

maybe i do

[tardy smelt]

Delicate flower-type rituals

But that's too specific for a suggestion methinks

[swift wharf]

it would be so cool if snow had a vanilla boss anyways

[sage drum]

what is this critical information though

[little stag]

tf you mean delicate flower

[eternal escarp]

deerclops.....

[lucid flare]

[little stag]

what would be that?

[swift wharf]

deerwhat

[eternal escarp]

i swear to god eclipse.

[swift wharf]

[crude geode]

cal doesn’t acknowledge deerclops so why should eclipse

[eternal escarp]

i do

i acknowledge it

[sage drum]

deerclops is useless

[crude geode]

I also do

[eternal escarp]

😭

[tardy smelt]

Maybe I'll bully Blast and/or Stippy into vouching for the idea if this gets accepted in dev

[sage drum]

give deerclops SOMETHING that makes it worth fighting

[lucid flare]

wdym deerclops is in boss rush :D

[crude geode]

You are not the council calamity

[swift wharf]

ooooo deerclops isn't real ooooo

[sage drum]

the only reason to fight deerclops is to despawn it

[eternal escarp]

i am around 1/1000 of it

[sage drum]

it's like the capslock of bosses

[eternal escarp]

thats how math works i think right

[crude geode]

Probably

[lucid flare]

me filling my silly little boss checklist

[eternal escarp]

you can say this for

[little stag]

chaallenges like those would be interesting as a quest

[eternal escarp]

a lot of optional bosses

whats your point

[swift wharf]

if deerclops has one million fans, blast is one of them
if deerclops has one fan, blast is that fan
if deerclops

[sage drum]

they have weapons worth using

they have armors worth using

[tardy smelt]

That's why I think it'd be cool

[eternal escarp]

deerclops has 3 weapons worth using too

and you clearly didnt see Dragonfollys drops

[rotund tree]

blast deerclops discussion

[eternal escarp]

SHUT UP SHARZZ

[sage drum]

at least it gets a rage upgrade

[eternal escarp]

eh

[little stag]

yeah
that system would also give challenges a purpose

[sage drum]

oh, pew-matic horn

[swift wharf]

gilded proboscis my beloved

[sage drum]

such a good weapon for ranger

[tardy smelt]

Just checking out Permafrost at certain points of progression and getting the boosts for free would be lame

[lucid flare]

dragonfolly really only is fought for:
silva armor
yharon
the adrenaline/rage thing it drops

[sage drum]

and like the worst sentry in the game?

[little stag]

indeed

[eternal escarp]

it litterally is a good ranged weapon tho...

[crude geode]

What

Are you high

[sage drum]

its decent

[eternal escarp]

and weather pane is also great

[tardy smelt]

*pain

I think

[eternal escarp]

its not "decent" its quite viable and up to standards

english

[sage drum]

fair

[eternal escarp]

yeah its pain iirc

[sage drum]

but it isn't something people tend to use a lot

[eternal escarp]

haha pun!!

[eternal escarp]

i wonder if its because its new...

[swift wharf]

I mean

[eternal escarp]

new=bad...

[swift wharf]

^

and probably most cal players never touched 1.4 before

[eternal escarp]

mhm

people stay with what they know and automatically say no

[crude geode]

Cal players don’t touch grass

[sage drum]

now i kinda want to see dps tests

[eternal escarp]

i had one on sg a while ago

[lucid flare]

brother i haven't even touched vanilla

[eternal escarp]

cant bother finding.it

[sage drum]

theres no grass in the snow

[swift wharf]

pew o matic good on infernum skeletron

so good on regular skeletron i think

[tardy smelt]

I used Aquashard Shotgun for him I think

[eternal escarp]

anyway im saying dclops is good fight me grrrrrrr what was the originsl topic

[swift wharf]

pre-nerf pumpler trol

uuhhhhhh

[lucid flare]

chargeable armor