suggestions-discussion

[eternal escarp]

wood armors gaining boosts is more likely not to happen i think

too many armor sets to keep in mind in 1 area of the game

[small timber]

oh right yeah

[distant gyro]

when 8 different wood sets

[small timber]

probably just give them more defense depend on how hard the wood is to get then

[distant gyro]

and then relogic adding another one

[small timber]

I dont think people really use them anyway, I just included them since it is under coverage of the suggestion

[swift wharf]

holy shit pumpkin armor boost is mega based

but I think cactus is fine

since it's pretty much another wood set

[eternal escarp]

cactus has the thorns effect from vanilla now

doesnt it

[swift wharf]

ya

[small timber]

ya

though cactus is weird in that, it is better on master mode?

on expert or normal it feels really weak

[cobalt pewter]

wood armors can be ignored ig, but there's a vanilla precedent if they ever wanted to do that

(ash wood armor my beloved)

I think early phm can get away with no major set bonuses

ash wood exists on the part of the world intended to be explored post evils

so it's somewhat an exception

[tranquil perch]

When mustard mode is so garbage that it makes an early game set bonus be around 4x better that whatever you have at that moment

[cobalt pewter]

I do think Ninja armor can get innate Tiger Climbing Gear effects on full set

(or just put the effects separately on armor and legs then make the set bonus something else)

Pumpkin giving unlimited Stuffed seems pretty excessive

but Stuffed is a good buff if you wanna rework pumpkin around it

perhaps it's permanent Well Fed but doing something upgrades the food buff temporarily?

[small timber]

permanent well fed will be very useless since (unless you fish), pumpkin is post eye of cthulhu

(and it is an armor set bonus not an accessory, you equip the entire set to get that, not exactly very abusable)

[cobalt pewter]

fair, but it's not like early armor sets cal reworked are that game-changing (Stuffed is quite gamechanging to me on infinite)

[small timber]

yeah, most of these are just to "give you something usable even if you didn't mine"

currently it is basically high tier ore armors -> crimson/demonite armor (ore & boss) -> aerialite armor (ore & boss)

[drowsy plank]

pumpkin deserves to be usable

[glass arch]

at most pumpkin should give well fed, stuffed is way too good

[small timber]

the buff is mainly just to say make the skip between non-ore armor to crimson/demonite armor easier

[cobalt pewter]

I say Stuffed should be accessible in some way with pumpkin, but not all the time

[small timber]

depends, though for the purpose of the suggestion I don't want to make it excessively complicated

[cobalt pewter]

pushing meteor away solely from just being a space gun buff is nice

[small timber]

(since well, pumpkin is just one of them)

[cobalt pewter]

I don't remember any other armor in vanilla and cal that exist solely to buff a single weapon

[drowsy plank]

the OOA armors

[small timber]

otherwise I can say like "give different food buff depend on the time of day", like morning = stuffed, night = well fed etc etc; but that will make the suggestion even more lengthy than it currently is

[radiant meadow]

Pumpkin Pie gives Plenty Satisfied, so that probably would make sense most thematically.

[cobalt pewter]

actually it's 3 weapons since the ooa sentries have 3 variants 🫵 🤓

but yeah

[radiant meadow]

invalidating Pumpkin Pie as an item tho

[drowsy plank]

sentries aren't real

you could just make pumpkin work like the hardmode ore armors

get the buff on kill

or hit

w/e

[small timber]

it is weird in that... plenty satisfied and well fed are really non-valuable as you can easily get high duration of both of them, which will basically make the armor set bonus pointless

[cobalt pewter]

like Palladium set?

[drowsy plank]

yes

[cobalt pewter]

oh boy, here we go down the food system rabbit hole

but anyways

[small timber]

meanwhile exquisitely stuffed for some reason is just 10x harder to get where your best source (is) a 4 minute buff from seafood dinner which will get removed next patch anyway

[glass arch]

yeah, out of like 10 non-craftable vanilla items that give stuffed 8 or so are hardmode exclusive, and theres not many craftable ones either (golden delight and grape juice plus probably some cal ones)

[radiant meadow]

food system in Terraria being bad isn't my problem

[cobalt pewter]

Necro armor seems to be just Bone Glove but ranged

[drowsy plank]

that way highest tier buff would work because it would only be a short duration like 10-30s

[cobalt pewter]

which is odd since the acc is already kinda niche-ish?

[glass arch]

i have never used bone glove

[small timber]

terraria calamity harvest moon update that rework the whole fishing system and introduce cattle and animal husbandry when

[drowsy plank]

that's fine, it's better than what it is rn. maybe add a synergy to bone glove with it idk

real

[cobalt pewter]

Using Bone Glove with Necro armor spawns sans

[glass arch]

spawns emode golem

[cobalt pewter]

guh

[lucid flare]

use seafood dinner while you can, fellas

[small timber]

yeah necro I am truly out of idea that is not just stat boost

[cobalt pewter]

fair enough

[drowsy plank]

steal necro enchant

[small timber]

currently it is a pure stat stick of +15% damage and +10% crit from armor stat and set bonus combined

[radiant meadow]

checks what gives exquisitely stuffed
sees some hardmode stuff, oh maybe it's just a hardmode buff minus golden delight

borger

[drowsy plank]

borger real

[cobalt pewter]

mmyes

borgir

Cactus armor is fine yea

[glass arch]

so 14 vanilla items give exquisitely stuffed, and i dont think any cal items give stuffed

[lucid flare]

true...

[radiant meadow]

piggies also drop bacon which is like free exquisitely stuffed lol

[cobalt pewter]

donator moment

(donator NPCs have to be one of the weirdest entry for donos in cal I seen)

[glass arch]

so at most it should be 15 seconds of stuffed on hit if that were to be implemented

[lucid flare]

here comes the meta of piggy farming

[radiant meadow]

don't blame the donor

it's from here

:)

[cobalt pewter]

wtf merk.....

[radiant meadow]

you reap what you sow

[small timber]

to get terraria's higher tier food buff:

well fed - you chop some tree, randomly combine things that you loot or farmed
plenty satisfied - higher tier cooking, for the more fancy dishes,
exquisitely satisfied - rare enemy drops at a quantity of 1 each or golden critter soup

[cobalt pewter]

I love how that went from reasonable to broken the moment 1.4 rolls out

I love terraria updates

[distant gyro]

be grateful that you are not a terraria modder

[radiant meadow]

slight spoilers but next update

Mantis Shrimps can drop Shrimp Po' Boys 😱

[distant gyro]

ok but like are any other enemies dropping food

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[distant gyro]

and can calamity slimes actually drop slime staff fr on god

[lucid flare]

me when i don't know either of those things

[distant gyro]

(i dont think it does rn)

[radiant meadow]

pretty sure they don't

[drowsy plank]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Shrimp_Po'_Boy

[distant gyro]

it should though

[lucid flare]

considering that calamity makes slimestaff craftable

[distant gyro]

at least crimulan and ebo

[lucid flare]

i don't think its needed

[distant gyro]

yeah but flavor

[radiant meadow]

mfw queen slime minions can drop slime staff

[lucid flare]

plot twist; blight slimes now drop corro/crim slime staff post-slime god

[distant gyro]

yeah

even qs spawns can drop it

it's not about the viability at the point you get it to drop that late

it's about getting something astronomically low to drop to drop in the first place

[radiant meadow]

I'll think about it

[distant gyro]

that's why calamity slimes should drop it

[drowsy plank]

they removed soul farming on king slime but you can still do it with queen slime

[radiant meadow]

along with making Fusion Feeders drop Nachos

[lucid flare]

can u make queen slime drop soul of night if you beat her in the corruption

[radiant meadow]

probably

[drowsy plank]

yeah

just has to be underground

oh u mean directly

i meant like, her minions will drop souls if you kill her in the underground

[lucid flare]

no

[drowsy plank]

i wonder if you can do that with slime god

honestly why did they even patch out king slime soul farming

who was that hurting

[lucid flare]

hardmode evil enemies maybe idk

[drowsy plank]

you still gotta kill em for ichor/cursed flames

and deal with them during the fight

it honestly seems more like an old cal change lmao

[lucid flare]

or fight hive/perfs again

[drowsy plank]

true but

vanilla doesnt have that

at least in vanilla you still had to

you know

[lucid flare]

[drowsy plank]

go to the underground evil biome

[cobalt pewter]

but back to the original sugg, some of the armors on the list could get changes all around yes

[radiant meadow]

why do prehardmode bosses drop hardmode resources, again?

[drowsy plank]

something something grinding

[cobalt pewter]

because Terraria?

[small timber]

sorry may I ask what was the original reason this suggestion is denied?

since yesterday some suggestion about how profaned enemy are way too common mentioned this and I wanted to suggest an idea similar to this (but for all profaned enemy including impious immolator and profaned energy), but if it will be denied it will be pointless for me to suggest

[hollow shell]

Hmmm recent posting
xpcqe falling to the temptations of the SIS

At least you clarified them as examples

[hollow shell]

Lemme see if I can find anything

[hot zephyr]

Already checked

I don't think there was any major discussion on scorn eaters

Only a handful of people voted anyways

[hollow shell]

I see that as well yes

[hot zephyr]

I personally wasn't a fan of the idea because there already isn't a ton of profaned enemy variety

[small timber]

it become abit of a SIS yeah, though I feel it is still better if I have some examples in the suggestion

(since otherwise it become "these items bad buff please" without providing any potential solution)

[hollow shell]

A reason that I can potentially think of is related to that yeah
If you reduce Scorn spawn rates then that means ImpImmos and ProfEnergies are more common
The former is fine but the latter is a huge area denial enemy, we probably don't want more of them

[hot zephyr]

doesn't ninja armor just give a shit ton of movement speed

[cobalt pewter]

I think so

[hot zephyr]

i remember it being pretty good as is

[small timber]

yeah 20% MS

[cobalt pewter]

and crit chance on pieces

[hot zephyr]

infernal screeching

[small timber]

the ironic thing is, the entire set is worse than 1 moon lord's legs

[cobalt pewter]

AP Lite™

[small timber]

I ran out of idea ok

[hot zephyr]

who the fuck is using Moon Lord's Legs

what even IS Moon Lord's Legs

[cobalt pewter]

me

[hot zephyr]

I'm going to rearrange the beginning and ends of your internal organs

[cobalt pewter]

exclusive to uhhh

one of the secret seeds

[hot zephyr]

Don't test me, pizza boy

[cobalt pewter]

(and zenith since it's everything)

[small timber]

(this thing give 25% movement speed by itself)

wiki says drunk world

[hot zephyr]

necro armor literally just being bone glove 2

especially since you can... use bone glove.... with ranged weapons....

[small timber]

I really ran out of idea ok

[lucid flare]

me using necro armor with boné glove so i can have twice the bone

[small timber]

but ya ninja gear currently just have its entire set bonus literally being "give 2 anklet of the wind" just feels really bad, eventhough it is ok

[hot zephyr]

just list underperforming/bland vaniller armor and I'll give it da vote
no need to list functions....

[small timber]

but I think something like plat armor is straight up better since ninja armor's set pieces have very bad stats

[small timber]

yeah I am tempted to do it like this since like, many of these ideas or not very good

[hot zephyr]

some of them are fine

[hollow shell]

Also jump speed/height boost which makes it a great early item

But yeah it's seed specific so LOL

[small timber]

yeah I will only keep/list the fine one as examples

ok I just remembered why I said ninja armor set bonus is not good, even ignoring moon lords legs, sec

a bunch of ore armor just kinda give half the set bonus of ninja armor in 1 piece

and ninja armor's stats on armor pieces themselves are absolutely terrible

[hollow shell]

puh

[small timber]

(and I do think plat armor's cap on life regen and crit need to be separated/have different scaling, since it is kinda weird that it only give 3% crit)

[hollow shell]

Well, at least the ore armors are worth making now

[small timber]

yeah they are definitely worth it
(the crimson and demonite armor are also really good now)

[cobalt pewter]

....

I never realized it until recently

but the wording on Plat armor's set bonus is so off

[hollow shell]

Two lines could be combined into one, yeah
Presumably not done for space reasons?

or maybe clarity? dunno

[radiant meadow]

It was worded a bit different prior to the most recent update

It just didn't occur to me to combine the lines

[cobalt pewter]

fair enough

[radiant meadow]

I'll make it worse next update

[cobalt pewter]

nice!

[drowsy plank]

put moon lord's legs in sky chests/crates ez

[small timber]

let calamity make changes where in 1.4.4 if you throw the entire ninja armor set into shimmer they combine and transform into moon lord legs

[cobalt pewter]

actually kinda silly idea

let cal make resprites of vanilla weapons, but make them only accessible through shimmer

[hollow shell]

buh

[cobalt pewter]

Bloody Machete desperately needs a resprite because jod

[hollow shell]

That won't play nice with the uncrafting mechanic

[cobalt pewter]

true

[small timber]

cant wait to shimmer celestial onion in master mode

[swift wharf]

Nah you'll virtually never get it

[cobalt pewter]

onyo should become a food item when shimmered

[drowsy plank]

bloody machete shimmers into removing it from the game :)

[cobalt pewter]

god

[swift wharf]

shimmer just fucking deletes the item

[hollow shell]

Eraser de la Binding Of Isaac

[small timber]

if you shimmer the rock it transform into

[fathom aspen]

Is there any plan of rework/overhauling non-removed calamity-exclusive shortswords in the future? they don't feel unique comparing with spears after 1.4 shortsword changes

[frosty trellis]

Shimmer the rock it turns into another Terminus

[swift wharf]

the cycle continues

[swift wharf]

yes

[small timber]

that is quite neat actually, though I will imagine it just have no effect

[swift wharf]

exoshiv will get reworked

[cobalt pewter]

just remove shortswords and make lances a thing :cluel

[fathom aspen]

rock-->shimmer-->pebble

[swift wharf]

concept art of elemental reworks goes here

(DO NOT SPRITE)

[frosty trellis]

Ele shiv is planned for a rework
We have permission from the donor of cosmic shiv to rework it as the community sees fit
Galileo Gladius doesn't need a rework it just needs another buff
Lucetta (or whatever the shortsword that starts with L is) could be cool but not planned to do anything with rn

[cobalt pewter]

exo lance be a gurren lagann reference ples

[frosty trellis]

There is no exo lance afaik

Not even planned

[cobalt pewter]

I know

is jork

[frosty trellis]

Ah

[fathom aspen]

got it ty

[swift wharf]

exo flail

[frosty trellis]

Looks at Spine of Thanatos
There's your exo flail

And it's still better than Exoblade

[hollow shell]

I woulda looked at Dragon Pow

[swift wharf]

fake fail

faker flail

flail failure

[frosty trellis]

Oh speaking of dragon pow

[cobalt pewter]

there are no real flails in cal atm aside from urchin mace

[swift wharf]

they need to become 1.4 flails tm

[hollow shell]

That's even faker of a flail, it uses its own spin method and can't be thrown out on a chain

[small timber]

oh I thought when you said lance you were referring to jousting lance

[cobalt pewter]

wtf

sneaky mf

[cobalt pewter]

what

[frosty trellis]

@pastel crow Dragon Pow is a wee bit strong on Exos overall (And melts Ares. He didn't even finish his first BLENDER before he died)

[fathom aspen]

kinda weird to see only 1 miracle tier melee weapon exists rn, even with knowing that the shiv will get remade

[frosty trellis]

Um, Exo Gladius got removed so no there is no exo shiv coming

[small timber]

(also I just realised they forgot to nerf the WoF horse)

[fathom aspen]

there will be none?

[cobalt pewter]

that ain't horse, that's a ✨ goat ✨

[hollow shell]

when the melee representation is not unreasonably bloated

[small timber]

but ya tldr the current state of horse mounts is that you actually are not that much faster than running on ground with angel treads which cause jousting lances to become even more useless

[frosty trellis]

The 31 post plant pre golem melee weapons be like:

[fathom aspen]

[swift wharf]

has anyone tried momentum capacitor with lances

I'm gonna start calling them jances

[hollow shell]

It'd be difficult cuz you'd have to swap your used items

[small timber]

you can but at the same time momentum capacitor is a completely different deal of broken

[distant gyro]

no but you need to keep using the item to gain more speed

[swift wharf]

yeah but momentum

[hollow shell]

I don't know how well momcap carries your velocity after you stop using it

[swift wharf]

you'd still be really fast even while swapping

[swift wharf]

it has inertia

[distant gyro]

the problem with lances and speed is that unless you inner tube you only have 1 shot if you're moving reasonably fast

[cobalt pewter]

you can maintain a bit of the gigafuck velocity from momentum capacitor for a short while

but it'd probably be very hard to control

[swift wharf]

someone make a wall of dummies go

[small timber]

it is abit hard since super dummy despawn if it is too far

but ya it is a large damage boost from, riding horses

[cobalt pewter]

inb4 momentum capacitor gets a post-exo upgrade that lets you teleport anywhere while opening map, no more movespeed boost

[swift wharf]

Rod of Harmony

[small timber]

I think for the current state of jousting lance is that the lance themselves need to somehow have a charge effect that increase your speed overtime

[swift wharf]

2!

[hot zephyr]

it's most likely going to be reworked into a slingshot

[small timber]

since horses are gutted to the ground to the point of having speed close to just boots
angel treads = 45mph, unicorn = 49mph, goat = 61mph

[swift wharf]

make it work like the tinkers slingshot

[hot zephyr]

no

[swift wharf]

Maybe jances could increase mount speed

[lucid flare]

like falcon blade...

[unreal viper]

I like the armor suggestion.

👍

[drowsy plank]

crossing my fingers this one passes considering how many times we've tried to get it through lmao

[bright crag]

Would be funny if it literally just changed name
Exact same item

[frosty trellis]

That would be hiliaruos

[bright crag]

"OMG OMG ROCK HAS A SHIMMER FOR- oh it's just rock but with a different name"

[frosty trellis]

Lmaooooo

[drowsy plank]

make the caption "The second object Xeroc ever created."

[bright crag]

SO TRUE

[frosty trellis]

LMAO

[lucid flare]

my internet decided to shit itself when i posted the sugg

like if God himself tried to tell me to not post that shit

but i did it anyway because i'm dumb

[novel belfry]

i mean

its an accessory literally no one talks about unless they're trying to make the auric tesla armor set and have no idea where to find the damn thing

but on the other hand, having some random otherwise hardmode-exclusive accessory show up as part of the traveling merchant's thing could be a funny thing

[lucid flare]

at the start i just wanted it to be removed from auric tesla, but not only has this suggestion been made 300 times, but since f-barrier is very niche (and not in a good way) without it, might as well just get rid of the item

[novel belfry]

its clearly an extremely outdated thing

[lucid flare]

flying carpet at the very least is useful

you won't just drop down when you run out of flight time

[drowsy plank]

frost is already getting removed isnt it

[lucid flare]

shrug

only thing i see about it is a suggestion to rework AT

(which is already gonna happen)

[drowsy plank]

i swear i remember some dev talking about killing all the bloat accessories alongside the AT rework

[lucid flare]

unfortunately i'm not very in touch with the server 🟡

why would you do that tho

[oblique geyser]

Do what

[lucid flare]

remove him from bos srush

why remove him from boss rush when they could "just"....give him calamity AI

and he just got added too 😭

[hollow shell]

Surely it would be better to ask that it have its AI changed to fit BR, right?

It's harder than just removing him for sure but
it'd be weird to put him in, then take him out, and then prolly put him in again later once he gets new AI anyway

[lucid flare]

also the thing about DC "constantly falling through platforms and teleporting back up after falling long enough, giving the player a very short window to damage him" thing seems like a problem only to no-hitters

with their world-sized platform arena

[hollow shell]

Kinda yeah, cuz most players actually will have ground not far down for him to land on

(Kinda no cuz the player still has endgame mobility and it's funny to try and fight a close-range grounded boss with that)

I have to assume Deerclops has some kind of AI alteration and not just health & damage
Maybe I'm wrong but, it'd just be too wacky to have the unmodified PreHM boss in BR

[lucid flare]

there is no calamity page for DC in the wiki

it just redirects you to the normal terraria wiki

[fervent orbit]

yup

which is sad, i rlly like deerclops

always overshadowed by the other 1.4 bosses like qs or eol

[hollow shell]

Well it was a recent update so that could be the case even if he was changed

[drowsy plank]

hey wait isnt this a reversion sugg

[fervent orbit]

atleast all 3 got the treatement of not having lore immediately

im still questioning what eol's lore will be

[drowsy plank]

she's a really big bug

[fervent orbit]

so basically she pretty elf thing

[lucid flare]

the lore is that queen slime is slime god ressurected because the hallow exists and the "first" slimegod fight it had the crimson and corruption as slimes

(false)

[fervent orbit]

sg doesnt ressurect, he flees

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[fervent orbit]

and then absorbed hallow power

[drowsy plank]

i think the idea is that QS is SG tho

yeah

[lucid flare]

eyah that

[fervent orbit]

it is

[lucid flare]

slime god got estrogenized

became slime goddess

[fervent orbit]

im pretty sure one of the mods confirmed it once during a talk in #calamity-mod-talk

[hollow shell]

That's personally not the lore I wanted to happen but it's close I guess

[inner anvil]

In Calamity? Not at all.

[lucid flare]

what was the lore

[hollow shell]

:(

[inner anvil]

Though, Fab plans to change Deerclops at some point.

To have AI alterations.

[frosty trellis]

(Also a sidenote as someone who has done the most recent boss rush with just normal gear ripperless and full warding modifiers deerclops just gets deleted and it's AI is not an issue)

[hollow shell]

I still won't say it in case I ever do succeed in convincing them to make it a reality, in which case it'd be spoilers

[lucid flare]

[fervent orbit]

wat if slime god just constantly flees throughout the game

becoming stronger after every few stages

[hollow shell]

Nice

[fervent orbit]

(a reason to bring back astrageldon as a post ml astral boss)

[inner anvil]

Proof just in case:

[fervent orbit]

yes

[lucid flare]

>malice AI

[hollow shell]

Funny way to refer to BR AI but true

[fervent orbit]

cuz br (malice) ai isnt top priority

[lucid flare]

point and laugh at deerclops

never got m*lice AI

[inner anvil]

Queen Slime, EoL and Exo Mechs don't have Malice AI in BR as well.

[fervent orbit]

anyways, just like i popped in, im gonna pop out

[lucid flare]

i mean they had malice AI when alice mode was a thing

[inner anvil]

And then it was deleted for the bosses that weren't in Boss Rush, which are:

Exo Mechs.

[lucid flare]

yeos

[frosty trellis]

I couldn't tell with QS because it just get's instamelted
But thank god for Exos not having malice AI

[inner anvil]

I mean, they will.

[frosty trellis]

Fk

[lucid flare]

[inner anvil]

Well, he will.

[frosty trellis]

Well hopefully red sun can still carry though Ares

[lucid flare]

the exo mech (not artemis)

[inner anvil]

All of them bruh.

[frosty trellis]

Artemis isn't that bad...

[inner anvil]

Artemis is a champion.

[frosty trellis]

Exos in generally aren't that bad

[lucid flare]

no the joke is that artemis is named after a woman (artemis)

[frosty trellis]

Hell, Ohio makes things easier because it's so easy to fking punish Artemis during Ohio

[inner anvil]

?

[frosty trellis]

Oh right, goddess of love

[inner anvil]

Okay then, I don't know what this has to do with anything, but thanks I guess.

[lucid flare]

don't think too hard about it

[hollow shell]

That's Aphrodite...

[inner anvil]

LMAOO.

[hollow shell]

Artemis was a huntress

[frosty trellis]

Says he will
mentions the exo mech (not artemis) because artemis is female

[frosty trellis]

FAK

I am rusty on my greek mythology knoledge

[inner anvil]

Bruh, he as in Fabsol, you bruh moments.

As in, he will add them.

[frosty trellis]

Fair

[lucid flare]

ah, i get it

[inner anvil]

Ayo, for BR Exo Mechs, the Exo Mechs should all start in Berserk phase to be honest.

[lucid flare]

what if BR exos just started at the 3 mechs phase instead of having draedon making you choose

[distant gyro]

BR exo mechs already exist?

[inner anvil]

Does it?

[lucid flare]

uh, they've been in there for a while

well, not BR AI exos,

[inner anvil]

Fab specified for you to be able to choose.

So no.

[hollow shell]

We're talkin bout BR-specific AI for them

[lucid flare]

noted

[distant gyro]

as in BR AI

[inner anvil]

Certaintly doesn't feel like it.

[distant gyro]

you can try this real quick

see if apollo has 12 bolts during zigzag instead of 8

this should be public

[swift wharf]

john testers

[inner anvil]

Brooo, I'm too lazy.

[swift wharf]

what is the current situation on elf melter

[inner anvil]

IDK.

A situation.

[swift wharf]

I have many variables but it seems a bit too strong on levi

[inner anvil]

Well, I ain't testing it.

Byebye, Biology test tomorrow.

[swift wharf]

uhhhhh what's a balanced setup for levi and the killtime

[inner anvil]

De-.

[swift wharf]

sobbign

[frosty trellis]

For ranger:
Shroomite Armor
Tattered Fairy Wings/Festive wings
Asgard's Valor
Hero's/Frozen Shield
Angel Treds
Deadshot broach
Ranger Emblem
3m3w, all buffs that are avalible at that stage are fair game (That aren't alcohols or spiteful candles)

And kt of 3 minutes

[swift wharf]

thank you

no rippers too but I suck :sungla:

[distant gyro]

BR list

• apollo takes shorter for attacks
• apollo charge line up is shorter
• apollo charges faster, fires at a higher velocity
• apollo fires 12 plasma instead of 8 during charge
• ares projectiles are shorter
• ares deathray telegraphs are shorter
• ares has 12 blender beams (over 10 death)
• gauss nuke, plasma cannon, tesla cannon are faster and more predictive
• laser cannon telegraphs are shorter, faster lasers
• artemis is even more predictive
• artemis takes shorter for attacks
• artemis charges faster, fires at a higher velocity
• artemis fires 10 lasers per shotgun during shotgun charge (over 8 death)
• artemis fires +3 lasers (over +2 death) during shotgun normal
• 35 thanatos body segments can be open at a time
• thanatos takes 10% more damage while open (over 20% death)
• thanatos doesn't taken more damage while open berserk (over 1.75% death)
• thanatos body/tail lasers are more predictive
• thanatos has smaller slow radius (400 br over 600 death)
• thanatos moves faster

[hollow shell]

Are those plans or are they in the game now

[distant gyro]

in-game now

[hollow shell]

Interesting

[lucid flare]

nice

someone should put that in the wiki

[distant gyro]

sm

[fervent orbit]

hello

[distant gyro]

looks like br exos is actually malice exos

uncanny resemblance

[hollow shell]

Well yeah that makes sense

[swift wharf]

@frosty trellis is lunic eye allowed

[frosty trellis]

No
Only the weapon you are testing is allowed. No classless weapons of any kind

[swift wharf]

ok

LMAO

[frosty trellis]

What in the fuck

[swift wharf]

[frosty trellis]

All valid shit as wlel

What about Aureus and Golem?

[swift wharf]

@inner anvil get yo ass here mf

[frosty trellis]

Memes doesn't test ranger kek

[swift wharf]

I know

I wanna see his reaction

[frosty trellis]

That's Blast and elf melter is getting a rework in 1.4.4

So yeah

[swift wharf]

Watch it become more busted

[frosty trellis]

@drowsy plank

[blazing kettle]

actually what are the dps comparisons between old and new elf melter

[swift wharf]

[inner anvil]

What?

[inner anvil]

Ok and?

Seriously, so?

[swift wharf]

look at my killtime

[inner anvil]

That's a shame.

[swift wharf]

aureus time

tbf the base damage is like 230?

[inner anvil]

Just a slight note, just because I look like I test only summoner, doesn't mean I don't balance other classes. 😒

[frosty trellis]

Ah

[swift wharf]

while terra buster is

[frosty trellis]

Oke

[inner anvil]

I tested Heavenly Gale and Subsuming Vortex, for example.

For release.

[swift wharf]

lmao terra flamethrower has like half the base damage

[inner anvil]

Eld Melter.

[frosty trellis]

And Golem

Can't forget him

[swift wharf]

Eld melter.

[inner anvil]

Anyways, that's a shame, back to studying.

[swift wharf]

golem dies if you sneeze on him but sure

what are their kt

[frosty trellis]

Aureus 3 minutes, Golem 2:30

[blazing kettle]

terraria discord claims that elf melter got a 200-300 dps increase

[swift wharf]

ok

[frosty trellis]

OH WOW

The frostbite debuff probably helps as well

[blazing kettle]

theres also the different iframes, i dont know how that works

[frosty trellis]

Ic

[swift wharf]

you see this is way funnier because it doesnt inflict frostbite in 1.4.3

does cal buff it

update i forgor to turn on rev on expert but the new kt on levi is 1:40

[blazing kettle]

whats the average kt?

[swift wharf]

3 mins

[hot zephyr]

1.4.4 elf melter annihilates

[swift wharf]

i hate aureus

this thing is prolly gonna hit 2:10

fuck aureus someone else can test it

anyways yea the kt is probs 2:20

@frosty trellis trol

[frosty trellis]

Yeah this thing is dumb op

[swift wharf]

this is

with me killing the head

[frosty trellis]

BRUH

It's not Christmas Tree Sword op

But it's dumb

[crude geode]

Balance

[frosty trellis]

Christmas Tree Sword was sub 0;50 golem

[crude geode]

this channel really do be balance discussion at times

[frosty trellis]

I mean

[frosty trellis]

It be like that

[swift wharf]

no head?

[frosty trellis]

BRUH

@drowsy plank Add elf melter to the pre golem ranger class setups

This thing is ridiculous

[swift wharf]

add elf melter to POST golem

because that's where i'm using in my pt

[frosty trellis]

Seriously???

[swift wharf]

actually lemme test it on psot golem

yea

whats the setup

[frosty trellis]

Think since it wouldn't be post any of the post golem bosses same deal

[swift wharf]

mmm the setup should be mostly the same I think

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

[frosty trellis]

Wait is plague armor for ranger pre or post golem?

Not gokem

[swift wharf]

post

[frosty trellis]

PBG

[swift wharf]

wait

idk

!wiki plaguereaper

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Mod_Calls
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page plaguereaper for a direct link.

[swift wharf]

!wiki plague reaper armor

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Plague_Reaper_armor

[frosty trellis]

It's pre PBG

So use that + tattered fairy/festive wings (better flight time and good defensive/offensive stats depending on which one you use) and then recon scope over emblem

And it should be fine

[swift wharf]

is the armor bonus allowed

anyways what are the pgb, ravager, eol and duke kt

[frosty trellis]

As in the ArmorSetBonus key? I don't believe so since it can cause inconsistencies
Killtimes:

[swift wharf]

I will do without then

with was 1:53

[frosty trellis]

Kk

[swift wharf]

watch you know about rolling down in the deep

fuck this weapon

[crude geode]

Funny

Also this new sugg feels like a parody

[frosty trellis]

LOL

[frosty trellis]

Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[blazing kettle]

mfw chlorophyte extractionator coming soon (it igves a use for extractionator)

[frosty trellis]

Yeah Elf Melter is just melting the competition (I'm not sorry)

[blazing kettle]

what is the next best item and what are its times

for ranger*

[hollow shell]

It do kinda

[swift wharf]

holy shit

elf melter being bad at a boss

(or maybe I suck idk

[blazing kettle]

which one?

cultist?

[swift wharf]

eol moves a lot so

[grim tusk]

@fading bane chill out a bit with your reasoning

Also you know that extractinators are quite common on UG desert

[crude geode]

cal players when they have to explore (this is a sin on god)

[fading bane]

still can’t find one

[blazing kettle]

tmodloader players when they cant buy it from alchemistnpc

[swift wharf]

ravager is kinda of getting destroyed

[fading bane]

I play calamity to have FUN not to grind 2 hours for a boss drop

[blazing kettle]

uhhh

what drops

because you'd either be lying or have rediculously bad luck to grind for hours for one weapon

[swift wharf]

I'm not gonna sugar coat it

@frosty trellis

[crude geode]

when the weapon is unbalanced

[fading bane]

duke fishron

took me and my friend 2 hours to get razorblade typhoon

[blazing kettle]

thats your friend

and you dont need razorblade typhoon

[fading bane]

ok and

we wanted it

[frosty trellis]

What
The fuck

[fading bane]

you don’t “need” good weapons just makes it easier

[blazing kettle]

theres alternatives ya know?

[fading bane]

ok we wanted razorblade typhoon I know there’s alternatives

[blazing kettle]

this debate is really dumb sorry

[fading bane]

no shit you brought up a dumb point

[blazing kettle]

yeah

but uhhh if you really dont like grinding, theres mods to make the game less grindy

[swift wharf]

1:07 cultist

xd

[fading bane]

i do have those mods

[drowsy plank]

famthowr

[devout shell]

Thats just plain ol bad luck, then. Sorry

[drowsy plank]

this sugg sucks

go fish

[fading bane]

ur mom sucks

sugg on deez nuts

🖕

[drowsy plank]

wow i can tell you will definetly listen to the rules and add a reason why to this suggestion

and you're not like

12

[fading bane]

definitely*

IDIOT!!

[drowsy plank]

lmao

wait until you see how iban types

[lucid flare]

new server member icon opinion discarded

[drowsy plank]

the last thing terraria players want to do is play the game

[fading bane]

I want to play the game just not the grinding

because grinding isn’t fun

[crude geode]

.

[drowsy plank]

that's the game dunkass

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

[drowsy plank]

cursed do you have the boss rush copypasta

[frosty trellis]

I think I know where to find it

[drowsy plank]

The year is 2024
QoL mods have removed the need for town NPCs, Arena Building, Regular Enemies, and Grinding. 16 distinct difficulty options exist to be combined as desired.
All worlds are generated with chests that give everything to you, and have innumerable world-sized platforms
The game has been optimized away. Now we may relish in the infinite bliss that is uninterrupted boss rush playthroughs

found it

[crude geode]

The Funny

[drowsy plank]

it's a fucking extractinator bro there's already like 5 ways to get it

[crude geode]

It also was kinda op for getting money last time I heard it brought up

[frosty trellis]

I love this so much

[fading bane]

thank god 🙏

ideal society

[drowsy plank]

go play hollow knight

[fading bane]

that game is ass

[drowsy plank]

LMAO

opinion mega discard holy shit

[lucid flare]

especially with alchNPC

[drowsy plank]

alchNPC isnt real

[lucid flare]

true

[frosty trellis]

I use Alchlite and I still take my time on pts

I like building my arenas by hand

[fading bane]

hollow knight is mid sorry nerds!!!

[drowsy plank]

i dont think you know what a good video game is

[fading bane]

yea I do

[lucid flare]

i use cheat sheet to build big arenas because i can't count

[swift wharf]

alch npc has no arena builder.,.,.,.,..,

[crude geode]

I love contrarianism

[fading bane]

wait until cognitive finds out liking games is subjective

[drowsy plank]

and you're subjectively wrong

[crude geode]

yet these contrarian fools can’t even bring themselves to admit that thorium is the better mod to calamity 😤

[fading bane]

true!!!

[swift wharf]

can we go back to why we should buff elf melter

[blazing kettle]

can you properly citisize it and not say its mediocre without any explaination

why is it bad

[drowsy plank]

lmao

[fading bane]

idk haven’t played it before

[blazing kettle]

what did it do to make you hate it so much

motherfucker

[crude geode]

Not the place for this

[blazing kettle]

sorry

[fading bane]

YEAH COGNITIVE FUCK OFF!!

I’m here to discuss suggestions

[lucid flare]

there aren't enough elves to melt so imo it should be buffed to compensate

[frosty trellis]

Only reason I would do the same is if the arena is comically large or has hammered platforms

[swift wharf]

Alluring bait is an accessory acquired by fishing in the sulphur sea biome

[blazing kettle]

just dont judge things by their covers....

[lucid flare]

average yharon arena

[fading bane]

u aren’t my mom u can’t stop me

[drowsy plank]

so uh

you gonna fix that sugg to have like

actual reasoning

[fading bane]

yeah wait a sec

fixed

[crude geode]

#suggestions-posting message
Could we get a exclaim on this sugg @dapper coral

[fading bane]

an exclaim*

[dapper coral]

real

[lucid flare]

hello moderator

[crude geode]

tyty

Anyways yeah elf melter should prolly be nerfed

[frosty trellis]

Well not true bc I build my Yharon arena by hand LOL

[fading bane]

nope elf melter should be buffed

[drowsy plank]

this is old elf melter right

not the 1.4.4 one

[lucid flare]

i, on the other hand, don't

[frosty trellis]

This is old melter ye

[drowsy plank]

wacky

[fading bane]

elf melter doesn’t melt elfs it needs buffs

[swift wharf]

Anyways stake launcher sub 1:30 kts in 3

[frosty trellis]

@drowsy plank look at this shit

[drowsy plank]

no i saw

dumb as hell

[frosty trellis]

Have you put it on class setups yet for pre golem and cultists?

[drowsy plank]

oh no i got distracted by uh

yeah

[lucid flare]

vanilla weapons being good? in my calamity mod?

[crude geode]

I am going to kill the next person to use an acronym

[swift wharf]

Dimensional Soul Sartifact

[fading bane]

actually no u can’t cuz that’s illegal and u don’t know where I am

[frosty trellis]

Have you seen the bullshittery that is Christmas Tree Sword?

[lucid flare]

i never played melee

[frosty trellis]

SCal

[swift wharf]

I have not

Why is christmas sword good

[drowsy plank]

i was so tempted to put eld melter

[blazing kettle]

i have not seen christmas tree swords bs either

[crude geode]

Elder melder

[frosty trellis]

Idfk it just sub 50 seconds golem for no reason

[crude geode]

New weapon

[frosty trellis]

Elder Malder*

[crude geode]

True

[frosty trellis]

The Elder Malder

[swift wharf]

This is truly a calamity buff moment...

This is when I post the 45 second aureus killtime with candy corn launcher

[crude geode]

Can we rename God’s bellows to this @ fabsol k thx

[blazing kettle]

so strong it kills old duke (and only old duke) in a minute flat

[frosty trellis]

LOL

[frosty trellis]

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[crude geode]

On a related note to that what is the theme of meld

[drowsy plank]

space

i think

[swift wharf]

eldritch

[lucid flare]

black

[drowsy plank]

yeah eldritch too

[swift wharf]

meldosaurus

[frosty trellis]

Eldritch Space Deities

GDI ECLIPSE

[drowsy plank]

meld when i show it the raven paradox

[crude geode]

Counterpoint: this is the description of one of the weapons in the “space eldritch deity” theme

[swift wharf]

Can I just say that terra flameburster is uhhh

[crude geode]

[drowsy plank]

well yeah eldritch beings are destructive

just dont look at cosmic rainbow

[lucid flare]

funny how every other lunar event drop is like glowy and mystical & then meld is just the exact opposite

[crude geode]

The weapons kinda just feel all over the place and inconsistent

[frosty trellis]

Didn't that just get buffed?

[drowsy plank]

i just fucking realized prismatic breaker deals ranged/melee type damage and uses a fucking magic weapon in its recipe

[blazing kettle]

space eldritch diety -> sed -> des -> pes -> pez

owned

[drowsy plank]

goddamnit

i hate donor weapons so much

[crude geode]

I’ve been complaining about that for years but also nobody knows what it is so suggs about it will flop and die

[swift wharf]

[frosty trellis]

And that magic weapon IS A BOW

[drowsy plank]

[lucid flare]

least weird calamity donor weapon

[frosty trellis]

✨ That's Calamity Folk's ✨

[drowsy plank]

43 -> 55 damage

[crude geode]

It’s for the stupid pun

[karmic stone]

Don't do this

[crude geode]

also range and mage having overlap for reasons I hate

[swift wharf]

mald meter with 200+ base damage:

[karmic stone]

Carrying on

[blazing kettle]

double class type weapons are weird

[lucid flare]

you've heard of magic guns, now get ready for

[swift wharf]

uhhh fuck class types

[frosty trellis]

Magic bows (Cosmic Rainbow)
Magic rocket launchers (rainbow party cannon)
Magic swords (Tacticians Trump Card)

[fading bane]

wasn’t me

[drowsy plank]

look idc that much about weapon types but cosmic rainbow is also lame as fuck

[frosty trellis]

Speaking of prismatic breaker

[crude geode]

It really is

[frosty trellis]

It's ranger bonuses are completely pointless bc it scales off of melee speed

[swift wharf]

is that the rainbow gun but 3

[crude geode]

Takes one of mage’s unique weapons and mults it by 3

Yes

[drowsy plank]

imagine having a weapon called cosmic rainbow and it is just

three fucking rainbow guns taped together

[blazing kettle]

???

[swift wharf]

pearlwood bow .5

[crude geode]

Reasons I hate mage cal weapons bc they’re just BIGGER vanilla weapons

[drowsy plank]

it does melee damage too and is a sword

[frosty trellis]

Prismatic Breaker scales off of melee and ranged damage buffs

[swift wharf]

primordial earth line jumpscare

[frosty trellis]

Unfortunately it also scales off of melee speed

[blazing kettle]

why cant it cale off of both

[drowsy plank]

it can

[swift wharf]

dust → bigger dust → biggest dust

[drowsy plank]

but the ranger is pointless because

it is a sword

and gets melee speed bonuses

so why would you use it as a ranged weapon

it would just be bad

[frosty trellis]

Did it scale off of melee speed in 1.3?

[drowsy plank]

idk

that's nothing something i can check quickly

[frosty trellis]

Can anyone go find that out for me?

I can't login to tMod for awhile

[crude geode]

This is the reason people forget that weapon line

[blazing kettle]

why not?

[crude geode]

and a chunk of mage’s weapon lines in cal in general

It’s just.

[lucid flare]

at the very least the sprite looks cool

[frosty trellis]

About to head out for my volunteer thing

[crude geode]

previous weapon but bigger

[lucid flare]

for helium flash

[drowsy plank]

at least it isnt melee

[blazing kettle]

ah

[drowsy plank]

id take previous weapon but bigger any day over 18 beam swords

looking at you fuckin claymores

[frosty trellis]

At least it isn't another Cosmolite fking ranger weapon

[drowsy plank]

true!!!

[frosty trellis]

There's 20 btw

[crude geode]

I’d take better standards

[drowsy plank]

that's why we're here

this is why weapons should die :)

[blazing kettle]

why cant swords be cool and do more than 3 things

[crude geode]

Because that’s what subclasses are for, like flails and spears and lances and stuff?

[fading bane]

erm actually galaxia does 4

[lucid flare]

well this mod is like, really old

[crude geode]

also that

[drowsy plank]

most of the bad weps are just old weps

[lucid flare]

i was gonna say ark of the cosmos but can you even consider that a sword

[drowsy plank]

like the devastation line

[blazing kettle]

yes it can switch to a mode where it does a weird looking beam and a differebt we8rd looking beam

also its a pair a scissors lmao

[finite smelt]

cosmic scissors

[blazing kettle]

scissors for ogres

[drowsy plank]

does that mean stylish scissors arent a sword

[lucid flare]

i think you got galaxia confused

with ark of the elements?

[drowsy plank]

yes

[blazing kettle]

damn

galaxia is fire on a hilt

[drowsy plank]

ye

[lucid flare]

cosmic fire on a hilt

except when you swing it then it's solid

[frosty trellis]

Hey Devils Devastation is cool ;-;

And very strong

[fading bane]

galaxia has the charge mode and the errr the flamethrower mode and the errr spinning mode and the violence knockoff mode

[drowsy plank]

oh yeah but i consider it part of the devil upgrade line

devastation is still terrible

[frosty trellis]

Galaxia more like Shitlaxia

[fading bane]

galaxia is goated

wdym

[swift wharf]

devastation is the post ML one right

[frosty trellis]

Galaxia is so bad

[drowsy plank]

yes

[lucid flare]

honestly out of everyone who uses galaxia

[swift wharf]

ok but

[blazing kettle]

whatever happened to funny rng sword

[lucid flare]

how many of them use anything other than aries wrath

[swift wharf]

nobody uses devastation

[fading bane]

ME

[drowsy plank]

yes and that is why it should die

it looks so bad

[frosty trellis]

I've used it
I've tested Galaxia on Yharon
Had xpc test one of the attunements
It's worse than so many other options

[frosty trellis]

True!

[fading bane]

I use it cuz of the cool spinning cursor mode

[frosty trellis]

Devastation is also bad

In practice

[frosty trellis]

Yeah and it's not good

There are far better options

[fading bane]

OK it’s fun and looks cool

so it’s better

[blazing kettle]

how powerful was vehemance with exhumed? i remember it was made so it couldnt get it anymore so i wonder how powerful it was to warrant it

[lucid flare]

what

[crude geode]

Exhumed?

[frosty trellis]

It's already like sub 4:30 Exos pre the recent nerf

[blazing kettle]

or uhh the one with the overheat meter

[lucid flare]

ephemeral

[blazing kettle]

yeah

[frosty trellis]

Yeah that

Vehemence pre this patch where it got nerfed was cracked

[crude geode]

Cracked at being boring

(Seriously they took away the funny one shot gimmick and now it’s kinda just boring cloud)

[fervent orbit]

someone typing in suggestions

[frosty trellis]

You could also just... Download better multiplayer/player spectator/boss spectator if you are worried about respawn cheese

Calamity is Not At All balanced around multiplayer

It's a fucking miracle it works in mp as is

[cobalt pewter]

offtopic, but that sprite is perfect for a flame axe kinda weapon with which the blade bits are made with drawcode for morphing funnies

but no, helium flash is just vanilla weapon 3.0

[languid crypt]

i think id be intresting if they made the murasama have a combo move like another mod called the stars above

[hollow shell]

If you wanna suggest that then you're gonna need to back it up with reasoning on why it would benefit that item / the mod

[lucid flare]

it probably won't even get changed

[hollow shell]

(would probably be hard to justify it getting "combo"s specifically, rather than suggesting something more like "Make Murasama's attacks more complex")

[lucid flare]

iban said that he wouldn't rework it because every mod has its own murasama (or something like that)

[hollow shell]

Well, Iban doesn't need to be the one that does it

[lucid flare]

true...

[drowsy plank]

tbh murasama is fine as an indirect upgrade to terragrim atm

[fervent orbit]

terragrim > arkhalis > murasama

[frosty trellis]

Murasama is fine (and very strong) as is

No

True melee exo twins is only bearable bc of Murasama

Keep it true melee

[fervent orbit]

they dont mean give it projectile, they just mean something extra to not just make it "big sword"

[frosty trellis]

Ehhhh

It can stay comically large sword

It's at least unique in that sense

[minor shell]

are aureus ufo summons supposed to teleport ever

[fervent orbit]

ooh someone posting

[crude barn]

I wouldn't mind some sort of parry mechanic with the murasama

[fervent orbit]

maybe shoot the sheath like the real murasama

[drowsy plank]

that's an active dont

like specified in the doc lmfao

[small timber]

wait is it?

[drowsy plank]

no not your's

the shoot the sheath thing

i like your cooldown ideas

very based

[small timber]

oh, ya murasama suggestions are in purgatory land

[hot zephyr]

nobody wants to work on murasama

@pastel crow I don't care about the consequences just release your suggested changes

[crude geode]

lmao

[hot zephyr]

Necessary evil

[crude geode]

Murasama or changes to murasama

[small timber]

turning mursama into omniblade v2?

[hot zephyr]

No

[tardy smelt]

Murasama is in no-mans land as long as it stays a direct MGR reference

I think

If its identity gets separated from that then maybe it can become workable

[small timber]

just rename it to something like "Red Blade Prototype" or something like that

[crude geode]

I feel like people would just take mng with your sugg xpc

[small timber]

and then people will suggest to change it since it is no longer a direct reference

[tardy smelt]

That aside, it's not awful ig

It's serviceable, and it has its own niche

[small timber]

I dont have anything else in mind to suggest right now anyway so my as well try

since the alternative is just dodges will stay the current way it is until no one knows for how long

oh you mean master ninja gear

[crude geode]

Ye

[tardy smelt]

Being that of the high-range post-Yharon true melee weapon with slightly lower dps than the alternative

[crude geode]

we really need to obliterate acronyms from everything

Anyways yeah it feels like 30 seconds isn’t really worth the like. 100 or so damage.

Especially if you don’t even use that extra damage

Dodge should just scale off the damage of the hit

Tbh tbh

[small timber]

not sure how the formula work, but if it is pre-mitigation, scal deals like ~700 damage on average with attacks

over 180 seconds period:
Brain of confusion proc 4 times = 4x125 = 500 mitigation
Master Nina Gear proc 3 times = 3x300 = 900 mitigation
Void Sash will heavily depend on enemy damage and proc 2 times, eg against yharon charge = 2x 700 = 1400; Scal = 2x 650 = 1300 mitigation

but ya it will be abit awkward, since suddenly master ninja gear is better on defensive build while void sash is massively better when you are on full ham damage

(and void sash scales exponentially if you are playing on master mode or higher of course)

wait fuck I just realised I wrote the suggestion based on master mode numbers

[crude geode]

[small timber]

oh well, the main thing is just to present the idea anyway, the balancing will be up to testers anyway

[crude geode]

.

[small timber]

I thought of that but was afraid it will overcomplicate dodge effect

[crude geode]

So it doesn’t feel like ass dodging low damage hits and having to wait 90 seconds

[small timber]

since sash will be like:

• if damage taken below 125 = 45 seconds cooldown
• damage taken below 300 = 60 seconds
• higher = 90 seconds

but ya, you made a point, I will think of how to add into it

[crude geode]

Sounds good

[cobalt pewter]

It's not a prototype though?

[small timber]

they changed the lore of murasama?

[cobalt pewter]

I'm fairly sure Phaseslayer is the one supposed to be Murasama's prototype?

or did they change the god dang lore again

[small timber]

at some point I thought it was supposed to be exo blade prototype

[cobalt pewter]

guh

hmm

[ruby plover]

I don’t remember ever hearing that

[small timber]

but ya if it is just a name change they can rename it to what ever they want anyway

even just name it to like "The Red Blade" will still fit I think, since phaseslayer is directly referrencing phasesabers anyway

[cobalt pewter]

or just derive from the origin of the weapon in MGR without being blatantly direct with the name

Murasama (as far as I understood) is a variant of High-Frequency Blade (HF Blade for short)

(I have a looming feeling that I'll be bonked by MGR enthusiasts for spitting this out)

[crude geode]

MGR enthusiasts try to avoid this chat you're prolly fine

~~you're not a real MGR enthusiast if you haven't posted something regarding murasama in sugg posting and gotten your ass beat over it 😤 ~~

[cobalt pewter]

hmm

actually I did sugg smth about Murasama long while ago no

idk how people reacted though

[small timber]

huh

[cobalt pewter]

oh here it is

related sugg

[small timber]

I need to get materials to craft this manually just to be sure

[cobalt pewter]

can a weapon even get broken modifier thru cal's reforging

[umbral gazelle]

🤔

[cobalt pewter]

as far as I understood the system no longer lets you get bad weapon modifiers

[umbral gazelle]

someone managed to get this

[cobalt pewter]

they probably turned off cal reforging in config

because otherwise it shouldn't be possible

[ruby plover]

yeah its just like

reforge it

also, the sprite is different, so

and the rarity

[small timber]

this is something though

[ruby plover]

wait what

how

[small timber]

continuation

but ya, broken biome blade on the other hand is definitely possible

but I think the sprite is completely different so there is no need to specifically block it

[half sage]

reforging you can't, can still get bad modifiers from crafting and looting iirc

[frosty matrix]

They should make it so the broken broken biome blade actually becomes broken

When you craft the broken biome blade, if it has the broken prefix, it literally just breaks upon trying to use it

[ruby plover]

and then waste ur materials

amazing :))))

[lyric halo]

could consider a rename, like shattered biome blade instead for example, but not really necessary

[umbral gazelle]

true

it just

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[lyric halo]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[cobalt pewter]

Fathom Swarmer becoming a fishing armor sounds funny

make it summon a minion that scales its damage off fishing power on top of summoner damage

[spring sail]

I got this idea from 1.4.4 loadouts where you’re recommended to have your 2nd slot be mining and building and 3rd slot be fishing. When cal is ported to 1.4 we can have reaver headgear set being a pseudo upgrade to mining but fishing still sucks so

And it would be interesting nonetheless

[keen zodiac]

-remove deerclops from br

-lists reasons completely unrelated to br

[short walrus]

This is a cool idea

[frail mantle]

@ashen warren specific item suggestions aren’t allowed

Also this isn’t Fargo’s mod

We don’t need an omega ultra gamer accessory that has the effects of every other accessory in the game

[ashen warren]

oh

ok sorry

[frail mantle]

Don’t worry about it

[lucid flare]

fandom wiki moment