suggestions-discussion

[soft quest]

Damage and health sliders should be able to go below 100% to allow for some fun shit. Imagine doing a tools only run with axes and pickaxes, or maybe a run with sentries only, or he’ll maybe you just want death mode changes but you suck at the game and can’t beat death bosses so you can’t experience death AI and changes.

[drowsy plank]

why not just

make a seperate mod for that

we need more individual mods

cal being the patch for every vanilla issue or even just modded issue has become disastrous for this channel

and i know. i made a sugg about fixing a vanilla problem with my scarab rod sugg but. shut up. fishing sucks and red is never gonna do it.

[swift wharf]

what is that last argument

/ logic

[versed cape]

inclusiveness for people in the lower skill bracket

[frail mantle]

i mean

death doesn't really affect stats too much

[swift wharf]

death doesnt

yea

[swift wharf]

play rev

"but the AI'' play death and learn how to beat the boss

[crude geode]

me when the harder difficulty is harder

[swift wharf]

literally a fucking impossible scenario

[crude geode]

They’re not gonna make a difficulty mode and just make basic ass changes like damage/projectile speed. That’s why people hated malice and why people still hate Master. It makes them less unique than the new AI.

The inclusiveness argument works a lot less as well now that difficulty exclusive items have been tossed to all difficulties. The AI changes are the only difficulty locked thing, and for good reason because it makes the bosses harder

[swift wharf]

tldr

play infernum

[neat linden]

Ok but why

Where reasoning

Of any kind

[small timber]

Suggestion for reverting changes is disallowed

[neat linden]

Even if we ignore the "no bringing back removed stuff"

[small timber]

Especially in this case, where it is done deliberately so dog is no longer a buggy mess

[crude geode]

@frail mantle Bringing back removed feature

[small timber]

(still is)

[neat linden]

that suggestion is another kind of "ah i'll just ignore every single suggestion above me, don't give a damn about formatting or giving proper reasoning and just post it"

[gilded scroll]

besides, DoG pretending to flee would be a better idea then pretending to die
i mean
DoG is smart, from what i know-

[golden tulip]

judging by what

[small timber]

It was mentioned in the resprite lore or something, forgot where I read it

Basically DoG is kinda smart, maybe arrogant but definitely not stupid

An also DoG is described as a "hunter" iirc

[hybrid steeple]

calamity discord users fighting themselves to click on the suggestion rules and actually read them

[gilded scroll]

i mean, DoG faking a retreat would be a good tactic of his, because it would lower the guard of the thing hes fighting for an easy kill

[neat linden]

that would imply they know pins exist

[drowsy plank]

do we

[neat linden]

[drowsy plank]

not already have that?????

[gilded scroll]

how do ya think he got that powerful lol

[gleaming spindle]

read the rules and changed suggestion to try and fit not really

[neat linden]

still the formatting is non existent

[drowsy plank]

we already have DoG faking retreat like what do u think phase 1 -> phase 2 is

[neat linden]

header
dramatic pause
suggestion content

[gilded scroll]

i know, thats why the faking death thing is stupid

[neat linden]

is how it works

[small timber]

Basically dog arrogantly engage you for the first 40% of the fight, realising it is not gonna be easy, retreat and don his full armor to fight you again

[drowsy plank]

ah yeah

[gilded scroll]

DoG thinks your gonna be a gg ez clap, realizes your actually competent, retreats to go get his better drip, and still loses

[neat linden]

he armors up pretty darn fast for a worm so large

[small timber]

The fake death was basically purely for shock value only yeah (and it only works the first time)

[neat linden]

ngl

[small timber]

Lorewise it made 0 sense

[drowsy plank]

his armor is magic + draedon science or something

tbh it seems a lot like devil's sunrise

where it was just a programming restriction

rather than intended

[frosty trellis]

Hey @bright crag Mind having a look at this?

[bright crag]

Alright
Thanks!

(For reference, killtime is 3m)

[long ridge]

Only one weapon got a lower kill time

But I didn't know thorn blossom was that good

[frosty trellis]

Yeah I have the killtimes curtesy of Altix for everything. I just wanted you to see that because there is quite a few weapons that didn't preform well and Thorn Blossom is kinda cracked

[bright crag]

Thorn Blossom
It's a self-damage weapon, so that's natural
It's just too much under killtime

[frosty trellis]

Wait it's self damage?????

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[bright crag]

Yes

[frosty trellis]

I literally never noticed that

[drowsy plank]

"Every time the Thorn Blossom is fired, the player will lose 3 HP. "

[frosty trellis]

Well I'll be damned

[long ridge]

It doesn't say it on the tooltip though

[frosty trellis]

I had no idea

[drowsy plank]

not that i mind that it's not too noticable, i like bloss being usable

it's fun!

[bright crag]

Plasma Rifle sucks? Too bad, Thunderstorm and Plasma Caster supremacy

(I will check it out)

[swift wharf]

does tb fire a lot

3 hp sounds like nothing

[long ridge]

It fires kind of fast

Nothing crazy though

[bright crag]

It can be the difference between life and death
It's risky but not too risky

[swift wharf]

mpg didn't feel the risk

[frosty trellis]

Legit though

I died the first time I tried it out but I was also greedy as fuck with how I was trying to get hits in on the clone

[swift wharf]

anyways nice suggestion what does desert prowler and astral armor have to do with buffing underwater sets

[wintry frigate]

those were examples, i thought to make armors in general be more consistent, other biome themed armors should also grant buffs while youre in that biome

like how underwater armors grant buffs underwater

[swift wharf]

ok so you're talking about victide, fathom swarmer and sulphuric right

[wintry frigate]

yes

[swift wharf]

I'd say that sulphurous* armor is fine and already does what you want

Cuz it reduces sulphuric poisoning damage

[wintry frigate]

yeah, youre right

[swift wharf]

victide is getting reworked I think

and fathom swarmer is

definitely an armor added by the mod

[wintry frigate]

wasn't victide just reworked?

[frail mantle]

the items were, not the armor set

[swift wharf]

ye

[ruby plover]

victide also got a visual overhaul

but not a functional one

[swift wharf]

kinda don't want it to get reworked cuz we'll lose 3 really cool looking helmets

[half sage]

make them vanity helmets from amidas like godslayer and silva

[swift wharf]

[wintry frigate]

ah, alright

[hot zephyr]

says who

vanity

[sand ermine]

??

[frigid hawk]

I mean build

Is it possible to make this one only calamity?

[crude geode]

Wrong channel bro

[frigid hawk]

Oh sorry

[drowsy plank]

desert prowler doesnt need a buff and also stat sticks in certain biomes stinky

[unreal viper]

^

They’re either useless or create broken builds.

I honestly dislike water buffs because of how broken they can be.

[crude geode]

@frail mantle Suggestion two hours from going into voting, invalid for reasons above.

[hollow shell]

@full basalt Your title could be edited to be closer to what you're asking for

Yeah that's better

[safe oasis]

wasn't this rejected before

something something "just use destroyer emblem laoo"

[crude geode]

Nope

Got criticized for that but it got approved last time it was in voting

[safe oasis]

huh

shizophrenia

[violet pivot]

Anyone made a sugg about adding the same effects big swords have now in the 1.4.4 update?

[crude geode]

No bc there’s no future content suggs allowed currently

[violet pivot]

Oh, okay

[cobalt pewter]

waiting for 1.4.4 aside

it'd be an incredible alternative to simply enlarging swords

[exotic jay]

oh thats why my platinum sword is bigger than me

[cobalt pewter]

yeah cal tends to simply enlarge swords I think

[frosty trellis]

@bright crag Sorry for another ping but redid my mage on yharon times (Since lets just be real here, my old times were semi inaccurate due to me not being nearly as good at Yharon as I am now) And also remembered Alpha Ray exists! And pay attention to the right click hp % left because that changes up how you see it a lot

Also personally I think Soul Piercer needs a rework because it was clearly designed when Yharon was still vulnerable during his bullet hells to take advantage of that and it's not like that anymore

[willow widget]

thoughts of adding a description to bloodworms that says they are found in the lower parts of the sulphurous sea?

[arctic tapir]

necessary imo

[small timber]

does truffle worm have description that it is found in underground glowing mushroom biome?

if not then bloodworm is not necessary

to certain degree both duke and old duke are supposed to be "secret boss"

and worst case scenerio the wikithis support is already added

[willow widget]

true, but you aren't gonna really find a surface mushroom biome

[arctic tapir]

^

underground mushroom is the only natural generation

[willow widget]

so confusion is preatty easy

[arctic tapir]

tooltip could at least be "A cursed worm found in sulfurous waters"

so its clear that its UNDERwater and you shouldnt search on surface

[willow widget]

i want to get more opinions on this

[grave zinc]

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[grave zinc]

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[cobalt pewter]

real

@limber zealot did you accidentally press enter

[limber zealot]

yes

[cobalt pewter]

god.

[small timber]

if I dont misunderstood, isnt it literally the point that the weapon dont fire indefinitely?

otherwise it will literally just be a last prism

[limber zealot]

i mean, thats wat makes it terrible

or at least, for first time users

[small timber]

they can also just make the payout for having such a downside higher

[limber zealot]

just maybe make it autofire after it recharges

[small timber]

like the beam scales damage significantly near the end of its firing

[limber zealot]

that could be another option

[buoyant tangle]

oh hey cool

[bright crag]

I agree, Soul Piercer needs a rework

So does Deathhail

I already balanced Tesla Cannon and Face Melter

Thanks for the results ^-^

On post-Yharon...
Aetherflux didn't need a buff
I gave Yharim's Crystal a tiny buff, it already has a synergy with Chaos Stone that makes it pretty powerful

[small timber]

oh right since you are here, is charged blaster cannon good?

[bright crag]

Today I'll test Phoenix Flame Barrage, Vehemence and Heresy

[limber zealot]

have i been using aetherflux wrong tho?

I got only like at most 46k on scal

[small timber]

46k on cell phone/dps meter or on caltest helper?

[bright crag]

I'm not sure
1.4 basically reworked the weapon, and I haven't used it since

[limber zealot]

dps meter

death master

[bright crag]

Things are balanced in Rev Expert

Don't expect us to cover Master's extra HP

[swift wharf]

what the fuck I thought it was Rev

[bright crag]

Yeah, my mistake
Expert Rev

[small timber]

dps meter tend to understate/overstate your actual dps throughout the fight

[swift wharf]

a

[small timber]

#help-advice-read-pins message (I dont have a video ready), just use this one as an example

my actual dps is around 68k which SHREDS yharon, but dps meter is fluctuating between 25k to 46k max

[limber zealot]

ye and it actually feels slow

like, rly slow

and consider aetherflux doesnt have any on-hit effects or extra projectiles

[limber zealot]

just for curiosity, u have any screenshot of the setup u used?

[small timber]

in the video (at the end of it)

I will just run a aetherflux run on scal, easiest way to see

ok ya aetherflux need chaos stone

[limber zealot]

fair enuff

[small timber]

ok the dps definitely seems abit low

at least on my setup (which is very defensive)

it is probably the type of weapon that scales exponentially with damage increase with how often it appears in nohit

I will just use phoenix flame barrage to compare to get a good idea of whether this is good or bad

[limber zealot]

ok, im gonna go test cbc on deus in the mean time

[inner anvil]

dps definetly seems abit low
4:13

On god?

[distant gyro]

kinda want old aetherflux to come back if it needs a buff

but i dont think so

old aetherflux in question
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/583454384290267147/906931857009037372/Evolution.gif

[limber zealot]

lol

mage needs a lot of revamp imo

[small timber]

ok I have 0 conclusion

I definitely am not used to mage

either phoenix flame barrage is equally as bad or something

[bright crag]

Are you using tester gear

[small timber]

yes

[bright crag]

In that case it's very fucking powerful

[small timber]

I dont think it is optimal though

[bright crag]

SCal's killtime is 5m

[small timber]

that is pre-seeker

both weapon kills seeker super slowly

for scal is a different weapon used to kill the hearts?

since on hearts alone it is like 45 seconds (though in this case I think seeker will always be a huge time sink)

I want to make sure of this before proceeding with the entire fight, as otherwise 2nd heart phase will make it like 6:30~7:00

[bright crag]

That explains it

I used it on hearts

I always try my best to not use another weapon on hearts

Anyways, you can see that the weapon is roughly balanced

Very strong with the assitance of other weapons and accessories, very weak otherwise

[small timber]

I will just do one for both with drage on hearts, just to see the killtime of all other phases

(aetherflux is ok but heavily depend on sepulcher spawn location, phoenix flame barrage is bad)

[limber zealot]

imo phoenix flame barrage needs a mechanic rework, cause its extremely hard to hit small/fast moving targets

damage wise, its average

[terse silo]

hello, i need help, i made a medium world in calamity and for an unknown reason the map is not there, the pylons don't work

and* the pylons don't work

[bright crag]

Got Aetherflux right on killtime for Exos

[bright crag]

You could go to #bugs-read-pins, maybe they can help you

[terse silo]

many thanks

[bright crag]

Yeah, it does need a rework

No problem
Hope you can figure it out ^-^

[small timber]

ok aetherflux after nuking hearts seems about just right

though with(out dragon's rage on) hearts it will definitely be much longer than this

(considering that is 20 seconds acceptance, that is 4:57)

8 second acceptance, so phoenix flame barrage should be really good

that is a 4:36 kill (exclude hearts)

rtn definitely played a part, but at the same time I maintained the same damage vs defensive accessory ratio

aetherflux absolutely need chaos stone (which probably give it more damage than rtn) while phoenix flame barrage just doesnt need it

[terse silo]

there is no one online to help me 🤨

[small timber]

#help-advice-read-pins or #calamity-mod-talk should work

here (this channel) is not exactly the channel to ask for helps or advice (unless it is suggestion related)

[bright crag]

Doesn't look like PFB needs a buff

It sucks against Exos but it's pretty good for SCal

[small timber]

it is mostly just it feels really awful to use yeah, damage wise it is good enough

(and with how mage alcohols are that good with small downside, I think most people use it, like star beam rye)

I just realised I forgot crystal ball even

[lucid flare]

laptop users vs phoenix flame barrage

[terse silo]

thanksss

[frosty trellis]

Yeah um Aetherflux Cannon and Phoenix Flame Barrage from my own experience and testing were taking way to long on the hearts to be any good. Phoenix with Crystal for the hearts was still fine but Aetherflux was a minute lower

However I disagree that Aetherflux needs a buff because it's an Exo Mech killing mage weapon more than SCal. I just think the double helix needs to be able to pierce Thanatos's closed segments

(Keep in mind I never used Chaos Stone in my setups which is a drastic increase in damage since no Mana sickness)

(Although Helium Flash on the other hand, yeah that could use one hell of a nerf bc if I used Yharims Crystal on the hearts for that I would have gotten a much lower kt)

[bright crag]

Ironic, I could kill hearts with Aetherflux but not PFB

[frosty trellis]

I can't for the life of me lineup my double helix well

[bright crag]

I'm not buffing either

[frosty trellis]

Probably just my arena design

PFB I tried and got like a 1 minute scelp 1 and siad fuck that

And Aetherflux was just far too inconsistent for me

Especially with Scelp2

But Aetherflux is an Exos weapon not an SCal weapon

The Exos drops just need to actually be worthwhile for that to have any significance

[drowsy plank]

i mean mage gets vivid and vortex post mechs, right?

[frosty trellis]

Yeah and both are.... Not great

[drowsy plank]

lmao

[frosty trellis]

Like Vivid with Yharims Crystal was 4:3x and Subsuming alone was 4:2x

Compared to oh idk Spine of Thanatos and Photon Ripper with 3:5x and yeah they are definitely not good
Not to mention Rancor has a 2:2x Exos kt and therefore is why you kill SCal first

[frosty trellis]

I mean increase the damage that Thanatos takes from PFB and it will actually be fine for Exos
It's a little under 7 minutes rn and Thanatos is like half the fight so yeah

[bright crag]

Wdym

"increase the damage"

[frosty trellis]

Have Thanatos take extra damage from Phoenix Flame Barrage similar to what y'all do for some other weapons

[bright crag]

Rancor will be nerfed, so will Spine

The intention is it being 30 seconds lower than killtime

[frosty trellis]

Only 30 wow

[bright crag]

Both for SCal weapons on Exos, and Exo weapons on SCal

[bright crag]

We don't do that unless it's absolutely necessary

[inner anvil]

No.

[bright crag]

And we don't make stuff take extra damage, we only make stuff take less damage (resistances)

[inner anvil]

And we're removing that.

[bright crag]

^

[frosty trellis]

I was thinking cutting the kt by a full minute would make it more insensitive to just choose which boss is easier then you get to kill the harder boss for you faster because of it but I digress

[bright crag]

As much as humanly possible

[neat linden]

Wouldn't it be expected that a weapon is a lot worse against one target but better against the other

[frosty trellis]

Ah icic

[inner anvil]

You see the Resistances page on the Exo Mechs? Gone.

[neat linden]

Like, you don't expect to use sniper weapons against worm bosses or low damage inf pierce weapons against single targets

[frosty trellis]

Wait Exos no longer has resistances? What?

[inner anvil]

Well, maybe not all weapons, but a couple.

[neat linden]

Frankly, i believe a weapon taking a long time against thanatos in specific is fine, as long as it's good for other mech(s)

[frosty trellis]

Fair enough

PFB is pretty good for Ares and decent for Exo Twins

So fair enough

[inner anvil]

Yeah, that's why we're removing resistances.

[frosty trellis]

It's no fucking Helium Flash but it's fine

[inner anvil]

Like, for example, why do the Exo Mechs have a resist against Celestus?

Does anyone know? I don't expect an answer.

[neat linden]

uh

because

someone coded it in

[frosty trellis]

That makes no sense lmaoooo

[neat linden]

if you ask me "well why did someone code it in", i will back out and not respond because there is no proper response

[drowsy plank]

because they hate celestus

[inner anvil]

Well, I do know, it's because we were 'It's probably fine', and we went on, and on, and on, and now we're here: 'Oh wow, how is there that much'.

[neat linden]

I do wonder which resistances will stay

[inner anvil]

Also the majority of resists were added by 1 tester.

[neat linden]

Seraphim lasers res perchance can stay

[frosty trellis]

The rogue tester so rogue wouldn't melt Exos iirc

[drowsy plank]

why does thanatos have 'nade resist who the fuck is using explosive bunnies on thanatos

[inner anvil]

I don't think I need to say who then.

[neat linden]

i still find it quite funny how thana has a resistance to a post provi weapon

sure the weapon in question is powerful

but really

[inner anvil]

Did you know that Exo Mechs has a resist to a Moon Lord drop?

[drowsy plank]

i mean he has a lumi bullet res which is comedy

[neat linden]

wait

i didn't notice it before

oh it has a fucking utensil resistance what

[frosty trellis]

I mean Luminite Bullets are the funny

[drowsy plank]

look at this

this is the same amount of words most bosses have to explain their entire AI and it's just the resistances

[neat linden]

Twins have a tiny list
Ares has a pretty chonky list

Thanatos

[royal tapir]

Thanatos when a weapon has the ability to deal damage multiple times

[inner anvil]

Twins shouldn't even have a list.

[eternal escarp]

TRUE

[neat linden]

Unironically true

[ashen warren]

only things that should have resistances is certain funny things on worms lo

[drowsy plank]

twins seared pan res

[eternal escarp]

ares has quite a bit of "segments"

[neat linden]

A list of one item consisting of tyranny's end

[eternal escarp]

so it having some resist isnt too illogical

[ashen warren]

ares is a worm boss confirmed?

[inner anvil]

Not even that.

[ashen warren]

😲

[eternal escarp]

but i can see away with the seraphin resist if you just
nerf seraphim just a tad

[main hatch]

confirmed

[ashen warren]

can probably kill the piercing or smth

[neat linden]

although what if

[eternal escarp]

idk im not the rogue person i never used this weapon in my life

[neat linden]

just a bit of what if

[eternal escarp]

atstorm/shade

[neat linden]

a tyranny's end nerf

[inner anvil]

Already nerfed next update.

[main hatch]

tyrannys end deserves it honestly

[neat linden]

good

[ashen warren]

both it and AMR are nasty strong rn ye

[neat linden]

its single target dps is just fucking

[main hatch]

screw tyrannys end
Tyranny foreverrrr!

[neat linden]

AMR inflicts a debuff that halves DR, very major
TE just fucking outright ignores most DR/Def

[eternal escarp]

also eclipse fall being a resist in all four mechs
why isnt the weapon just nerfed (idk how viable it is on yharon / scal so i could be proven wrong)

[ashen warren]

cant amr get like a minute killtime on yharon with nohit gear or smth

[neat linden]

great for yharon

[neat linden]

I believe it can?

[royal tapir]

AMR can get under 2 minutes w/o rippers using glass cannon lo

[eternal escarp]

trolling

[neat linden]

Rippers can change a ton with it

[ashen warren]

yharon when he gets quickscoped

[neat linden]

Ripper nerf when

[inner anvil]

Most probably never.

[main hatch]

infinity nerf when O.0

[eternal escarp]

id personally have liked a small adren nerf early game specifically but oh well

[neat linden]

if you mean the weapon

yeah

[royal tapir]

Infinity is hilariously awful right now

[inner anvil]

I think next update.

[neat linden]

let's nerf infinity, a weapon already probably worst on its tier

[main hatch]

exactly

its infinity it doesnt have to be good

shouldve kept the 10 minute firing function

[royal tapir]

Infinity doesn't have 30 second use time anymore

trolley

[ashen warren]

hey at least its better than it taking like a minute to charge for half the game

[neat linden]

18 now yes

but the dps is still just

[royal tapir]

I'm convinced they didn't truly balance the damage when moving it to post-DoG

[main hatch]

simple solution just make it shoot more

[neat linden]

i could grab a random weapon on-tier and get better killtime probably

[royal tapir]

There is a 99.9% chance you would

[ashen warren]

adrens damage could be smoothed out a bit with the upgrades ig

[eternal escarp]

infinity is post dog?

wtf

[royal tapir]

The only on-tier weapon I can think of that's worse is Alpha Ray's right click, and that's bugged

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[ashen warren]

so its less op early on but doesnt lose overall damage by endgame

[neat linden]

[royal tapir]

1.5.1

[ashen warren]

infinity is like really weak ye

[inner anvil]

Fab doesn't even know who made it Post-DoG.

[ashen warren]

lmao

[royal tapir]

Amazing

[neat linden]

So it was moved to post DoG by someone

[drowsy plank]

it really shouldnt be lmao

[neat linden]

But no one except the culprit knows who

[inner anvil]

And didn't buff it.

[ashen warren]

ok ye i dont think that thing was changed damage wise was it

[drowsy plank]

as if DoG tier doesnt have enough weapons

[royal tapir]

Just as I expected tbh

[eternal escarp]

ill balance it

[royal tapir]

It got a very minor damage buff in 1.5.1 that's it

[neat linden]

i think it was like

[ashen warren]

i mean tbf who used it ever

[neat linden]

35-->45?

[royal tapir]

I wonder if it was originally meant to be sentinels/Polter tier

[inner anvil]

Yes, it was.

[drowsy plank]

i used it once on my first run back in 1.3 when it was ML tier. i couldnt kill provi with it so i tossed it in storage and used PHPR

[neat linden]

I used it like 3 times

And i mean used

[inner anvil]

And someone made it Post-DoG for some reason.

[neat linden]

Back when it had 23 years of usetime

[main hatch]

that should be readded

[neat linden]

it was hilarious

[royal tapir]

I remember in 1.5.0 trying it on Ceaseless Void, and it destroyed both the Dark Energies and my frames

[drowsy plank]

real

[main hatch]

doesnt drop enough frames anymore not good weapon needs buff

[neat linden]

if a weapon called infinity doesn't decrease your fps by inf%

it doesn't deserve its name

[main hatch]

so true

[ashen warren]

[frosty trellis]

It's certainly something
Top is spam, bottom is stealth

Shade is aware as I sent him the numbers

[small timber]

seems about right yeah, last time I used it it was similar result

[eternal escarp]

lol lmao

[frosty trellis]

It's not the strongest weapon for Yharon as Rogue but it's funny

Full results here if you wanna see blast

God's Paranoia is the epic funninesw

[small timber]

(with this I think many of them will get onto the butcher list, though not sure how much the various stealth and rogue accessory change make this differs)

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

But I would assume there are still enough of it where things are going to get rebalanced hard

[grim tusk]

On Scal and Yharon its fine

On exos its inf pierce moment

And multiple targets to stick spears to

Actually maybe

Remove the pierce

[grim tusk]

Proposed tweaks to it to not make it fundamentally broken

[small timber]

I thought since you guys are here, I have a feedback on perforator hive that its slanted shot (when worm is alive) if you try to run left/right out of the falling projectile wall should have a min distance

[bright crag]

I already did

[small timber]

Currently it just instantly fires the slanted shot if you are even a little bit off (not directly below) the hive, which cause a lot of unfair shot especially since with small movement perforator hive can accidently glide over you, triggering the slanted shot

Fuck how to remove embed on mobile

[bright crag]

<link>

[small timber]

https://youtu.be/bbzwbqzoABY ok, not perfect example, but it happens a lot in this video and is very visible

Yeah, didnt expect mobile can only done through <>

(and another thing is the slanted shot is kinda not doing what it is supposed to prevent, namely stopping people from running away from the rain)

If you simply run faster then the slanted shot do nothing, it only cucks you if you are moving small amount to left or right as it directly block your path of return

[swift wharf]

[eternal escarp]

gaming then

[bright crag]

Blast

Do you wanna commit arson

I might have a weapon for you to test

[frosty trellis]

Something tells me it's a flamethrower

[small timber]

It is actually dragons breath

Finally a flamethrower, like it always is supposed to be (why tf is it a shotgun gatling gun)

[frosty trellis]

Dragons Breath is good or bad now? I dunno how well it preforms after the right click nerf

[frosty trellis]

@pastel crow For a true melee weapon Carnage does not seem to be able to do jack shit to worms
First mech destroyer btw (made sure to scale it)
I am just tired of fighting this thing to get a proper killtime with it because it's just so bad

Can try against other mechs if you want

[hot zephyr]

well yeah

it (once was) a pre hardmode weapon

[pastel crow]

never properly balanced for hardmode

just got a random damage buff when it got moved

carnage needs help

[hot zephyr]

Carnage needs to be moved back to a blood moon enemy drop in pre-hardmode

[frosty trellis]

Either that or it's on kill effect needs to be on hit

[pastel crow]

maybe we could make it spawn like roxcalibur in the underground crimson/corruption post Skeletron?

[frosty trellis]

Oooo that would be cool

[pastel crow]

idk, it needs SOMETHING

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

Move it back there and then balance it around that so it Isn't Utter Dogshit

[inner anvil]

Average Melee L's.

[frosty trellis]

Melee is either broken as shit, weak as shit, or Ataraxia/Grax/Storm Ruler/Seeking Scorcher/Galactus Blade, which are the only things that are actually balanced for their tier

From what I've been doing

[hot zephyr]

it's known

melee testing was delayed because of the 1.4.4 sword reworks

[frosty trellis]

Which is fair

Which is why I've been ignoring them for the moment

[versed cape]

hey can we please nerf rogue slash 🙏

[worthy lintel]

elaborate

[versed cape]

someone earlier said we need to nerf infinity

hes based

also please nerf condemnation

[worthy lintel]

we're going to nerf every single weapon to the ground until the game's unplayable

[inner anvil]

Spider.

[eternal escarp]

rouge slash*

the one time its actually the color

people misspell it aswell

smh

[worthy lintel]

Memes.

[inner anvil]

🤝

[worthy lintel]

🤝

ill rid this mod of pointless weapons

[eternal escarp]

damn i feel left out

[worthy lintel]

i dont have 3 hands

😭

[eternal escarp]

grow some...

[versed cape]

no, only nerf already bad weapons

[inner anvil]

I do.

But I won't use them.

[eternal escarp]

wtf

mean

[inner anvil]

I'm not mean.

I'm realistic.

[worthy lintel]

Realistic deez nuts

[eternal escarp]

pwned

[inner anvil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/628354321209229324/1005988185165267027/caption.gif

[worthy lintel]

no memes in general

[inner anvil]

This is not general.

You have no power over me.

[worthy lintel]

it now is

[versed cape]

on god?

[worthy lintel]

[inner anvil]

Bet.

[versed cape]

what mech should I do first

[frosty trellis]

NO
Infinity is absolutely dogshit rn no it does not need a nerf

[versed cape]

im infernin

[eternal escarp]

you should infern your way into a different chqnnel too

[versed cape]

bad opinion, also can we please nerf lunarian bow?

[eternal escarp]

wow so funny

[frosty trellis]

It's not even an opinion it's a fact that infinity is the worst ranger weapon for Yharon rn

[eternal escarp]

im almost laughing

[inner anvil]

Memes.

[eternal escarp]

nerf (bad weapon) haha!!!

[versed cape]

if mods can go off topic, I can too

[eternal escarp]

spider is the worst example to take from

[versed cape]

literally what happened previously

[inner anvil]

LMAO.

@worthy lintel Get fucked!

[eternal escarp]

?

[worthy lintel]

get fucked more like

🤓

[eternal escarp]

squibbed

[inner anvil]

🤓 ? More like 🤢 .

[worthy lintel]

NO

i surrender

[eternal escarp]

victory.

[inner anvil]

What's the deal with the squid?

[frosty trellis]

Armor pen

[versed cape]

cant post evidence, im warned

[eternal escarp]

i use squib emote to bully everyone

[worthy lintel]

armor pen when the challenge is to not be cringe as fuck

[eternal escarp]

just say what weapon

[inner anvil]

Lmao I'm immune.

[versed cape]

infinity

[inner anvil]

You have no power.

[eternal escarp]

it never got nerfed

[ruby plover]

cringe
flooshter is better and you know it

[eternal escarp]

it just got tier shifted

lol

[ruby plover]

infinity wasnt nerfed lol

also, it was shit to begin with

[eternal escarp]

trueee

[frosty trellis]

Yeah infinity got tier shifted and nothing was done to it to make it viable

[inner anvil]

Hey Blast.

[eternal escarp]

hey

[inner anvil]

Are you immune to being squibbed?

[ruby plover]

that should be fixed next update i believe?

i think?

iirc stip said somethin about that

[frosty trellis]

Like god Why is infinilty right click A TEN MINUTE YHARON KILL WITH GOD SLAYER SLUGS

[eternal escarp]

im the squib god
of course i am

[inner anvil]

You sure?

[eternal escarp]

indeed.

[versed cape]

huh? when did I claim that

I said someone else said it should get nerfed

[inner anvil]

Alright, who's the one putting the squid reactions?

[frosty trellis]

And with that AMR and Tyrannys are finally getting nerfed

[eternal escarp]

start of the conversation

[ruby plover]

pffff

[eternal escarp]

and you brought infinity as an examole

[ruby plover]

memes got squibbed

[worthy lintel]

examole sounds dope

[inner anvil]

I don't feel any intimidation.

I'm immune.

[versed cape]

no I referenced it because someone mentioned it previously

[inner anvil]

If I'm not immune to squib I AM the squib.

[ruby plover]

Exomole, the final upgrade to the mole crafting tree

[worthy lintel]

exo squirrel...

[eternal escarp]

either ian or spider

my bet is ian

[frosty trellis]

Okay so when is skeletron prime becoming not a complete joke

[inner anvil]

@inner anvil

[worthy lintel]

quieres

[ruby plover]

i enjoy skeletron prime

[frosty trellis]

I never said anything about enjoyment

I'm asking for it to not be a joke

[eternal escarp]

i thought sprime rn is fine

[ruby plover]

i dont know how he is in terms of difficulty

[inner anvil]

SPrime is fine.

[eternal escarp]

compared to what he was before

[ruby plover]

its kinda hard to accurately judge that, right?

[frosty trellis]

Sprime is like a complete and utter joke even as true melee

[eternal escarp]

maybe you just got better

idk

[inner anvil]

Lmao True Melee.

[ruby plover]

in my opinion, the biggest target for a mech tier buff is twins, anyway

i really enjoy the fight, but

[frosty trellis]

Even with carnage taking 4 minutes to kill sprime he is a joke

[ruby plover]

they dont feel all that hard typically

[inner anvil]

Nah, he really isn't.

[ruby plover]

but then like

maybe thats just me? hard to tell, ofc

[inner anvil]

I think y'all just good.

[eternal escarp]

i think you just got good at sprime tbh idk

[frosty trellis]

Um, no

I've never once had problems with sprime

[drowsy plank]

twins is one of the harder ones in my opinion

[frosty trellis]

In vanilla or calamity

[eternal escarp]

i mean i find most bosses before dog easy but im not gonna go asking buffs rn

[drowsy plank]

also true

[frosty trellis]

Easy =/= complete joke with nothing really threatening

[ruby plover]

its so hard to think of valid ways to buff a boss cos maybe we are just good 😭 aaa

[inner anvil]

I still die to Twins sometimes and get hit often by SPrime.

[worthy lintel]

i accidently summoned wof 3 times in my playthrough

[eternal escarp]

well

[tardy smelt]

make expert dfolly what malice dfolly used to be

[ruby plover]

its so hard to tell if a boss is objectively easy or hard

[frosty trellis]

Calclone outside the bullet hells needs to actually deal damage and be threatening

[eternal escarp]

how come sprime isnt threteaning anymore?

[worthy lintel]

he's slow

[eternal escarp]

i dont remember it getting too many changes lately

[frosty trellis]

I get hit a fair amount by sprime he just does no damage

[worthy lintel]

his lasers are less opressive

[inner anvil]

Then buff the damage, easy.

[frosty trellis]

Also buff the homing on the rockets

They are a joke to dodge

[inner anvil]

No thanks.

[hot zephyr]

sprime got a lot of nerfs from the original rev+ AI that has toned him down significantly

[eternal escarp]

no the martian rockets suck if they ard too fast

sorry

[worthy lintel]

maybe we should ditch the martian rockets altogether ngl

[frosty trellis]

Bruh

[worthy lintel]

they kinda suck

[frosty trellis]

Regardless, buff sprimes damage imo

Because then it can actually be threatening and not feel like I can just tank everything and not have to worry

[inner anvil]

Up to Fab.

[ruby plover]

okay so, this might be wrong since the latest ive fought him was about a week ago in FTW, but

does he even have martian rockets anymore?

[worthy lintel]

he does

[eternal escarp]

im quite certsin

[frosty trellis]

Yeah he does

[ruby plover]

or is that a ftw change, where the martian rockets are replaced with normal ones

[eternal escarp]

he dioes

[worthy lintel]

dio

[frosty trellis]

I have been testing melee shit on first mech destroyer and sprime and yeah he does

[eternal escarp]

its 1 am dont blame ky phone typing

[frosty trellis]

LOL

[worthy lintel]

dont tell me to kill myself 😭

[eternal escarp]

WHAT

i would never 😭

[ruby plover]

okay so this is just a ftw thing ig

[frosty trellis]

Ye

[ruby plover]

neato

[drowsy plank]

he actually got a LOT of changes recently, i had to do all the testing to update his AI changes on the wiki lol

[tardy smelt]

^^^

He got semi-reworked tbh

[versed cape]

yeah it always felt kinda lazy

[unreal viper]

Can I please see mech boss/cryogen killtimes? I just want a general idea of the average dps at that part of the game, thinking about a sugg on mollusk armor.

[crude geode]

@hot zephyr see above

[unreal viper]

Thankee

[unreal viper]

thank you, very useful

[soft gazelle]

MAKE ASTRUM AUREUS DROP ASTRUM OREOS

[ripe dew]

I second that Idea

[cobalt pewter]

here's a better idea: get some bitches and read the pins because specific items are a nono

[soft gazelle]

someone doesnt like to go outside

[sand ermine]

:P

[soft gazelle]

weird ass

stalking me bro

[molten leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/pufferfish-the-fog-is-coming-the-fog-smile-fish-gif-25782045

[ripe dew]

add that

[molten leaf]

guys when will avalanche get fixed

[soft gazelle]

add the fog

[molten leaf]

are you serious rn?

[sand ermine]

This is the first time I have ever seen you

[soft gazelle]

cap

[sand ermine]

i dont think its considered stalking if someone simply visits someones profile :p

[molten leaf]

what do you think of my about

[sand ermine]

its like saying someone is robbing a store because they havent bought a bag of chips or something and are just looking around

[soft gazelle]

i know yo ass aint talking 💀

[cobalt pewter]

don't start talking random shit here

[sand ermine]

true

[molten leaf]

when will the avalanche get fixed its very annoying

[sand ermine]

anyway i dont think astrum oreos would go through if it was submitted correctly

just sounds like a joke suggestion

[molten leaf]

how do you donate?

[frosty trellis]

Should have just gotten fixed no?

[cobalt pewter]

is it a bug

[molten leaf]

yes it hurts you if u touch the projectiles

[hot zephyr]

[frosty trellis]

Shouldn't of that gotten fixed this update?

[molten leaf]

idk i havent tried it out

[frosty trellis]

I swore I heard this update it got fixed

Lemme try it

[molten leaf]

alr

[frosty trellis]

It's fixed

[molten leaf]

ok ty

[soft gazelle]

astrum oreos: sweet tooth buff; grants 15% movement speed buff but causes you to slide around for 3-5 blocks once stopping; effect lasts for 10 minutes; 80% chance to drop from astrum aureus in revengeance mode, will drop in stacks of up to 5-14

also remove astrum deus

[soft gazelle]

D:

[sand ermine]

please in #suggestions-posting

[soft gazelle]

lowkey racist

[hollow shell]

Don't.

Don't to you too

[molten leaf]

who?

[hollow shell]

You, yes you, the one with the gif I just deleted

[molten leaf]

cares

mb

dont ban

plz

[hollow shell]

@soft gazelle Please do not post joke suggestions

[soft gazelle]

its not a joke

i want them to be added

[hollow shell]

Predictable response

[soft gazelle]

tf u mean predictable

its a good name

has nice ring to it

could be good food item for 1.4 that drops in astral biome or something

[hollow shell]

Literally everybody responds to being told off on their joke suggestions with "It's not a joke though"

[soft gazelle]

how is it a joke suggestion

explain

[molten leaf]

what about more wulfrum mechs for other classes besides summoner

or are there mechs for other classes

[soft gazelle]

whats a wulfrum mech

[hollow shell]

If you continue I'll warn or time you out

[hollow shell]

That is a more realistic suggestion thank you

[soft gazelle]

im asking a question bruh

[hollow shell]

Though the mech suit was designed to be summoner-specific to
give them that unique thing

[small timber]

you are trying to get the boss to drop an item that is literally based on a pun on its name, if it is not a joke I dont know what is

[soft gazelle]

no not boss

mob in biome

[molten leaf]

also a buff to the wulfrum mech whips get so much more dps than it and they give tag damage. maybe give tag damage to the mech in some way

[soft gazelle]

is that not what the terraria devs did with some of the food items for 1.4

[crude geode]

Terraria devs =/= calamity devs

[small timber]

regardless of whether you think it is a joke, specific item suggestion are disallowed anyway

[soft gazelle]

then just add oreos

[small timber]

as someone already pointed out ^

[soft gazelle]

cookie

[molten leaf]

how would i donate

[hollow shell]

We have a patreon linked in #info

[molten leaf]

is that how people got donator items?

[hollow shell]

It was. We removed that as a tier reward and replaced it with early access to new versions

[soft gazelle]

how long ago

[molten leaf]

ooo

[hollow shell]

We vastly overestimated our ability to keep up with all the donor item requests

We got swamped

So we aren't doing em anymore sadly

[molten leaf]

that sucks those were so cool

[hollow shell]

We closed off new items a few years ago now I think

[small timber]

the newest donor item is still like backlog from 2019 or 2020 right?

[soft gazelle]

is there dev set for every calamity dev including all the new and incoming ones or no

[hollow shell]

No definitely not

[soft gazelle]

rip

do u have one

[molten leaf]

add an upgrade to yharim's kindle staff post scal or through the scal reforging and make it turn back into the old sprite

[hollow shell]

Uhh I have an in-game item named after me but that's about it
I've planned to add in my own dev set at some point but haven't had the time

[soft gazelle]

fax

i miss fat birb

[molten leaf]

i miss the chicken nuggets flying around me

[hollow shell]

We actually have that as a pet now

[soft gazelle]

yea but seeing them slap things was more funny

[molten leaf]

ik but i want like 50 of them in cheat sheet lol

[hollow shell]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/McNuggets

[soft gazelle]

but u can only have 1 at a time

if yharon kindle staff reverted to old thingy you can have like 10 million birbs flying aroud

[crude geode]

This is just turning into #calamity-mod-talk

[small timber]

they are not reverting back to a less quality sprite so you probably have to cope with it

[hollow shell]

We did change it for a reason

[soft gazelle]

it wasnt less quality

[small timber]

it was funny and thats about it

[soft gazelle]

it was better

fat birb

[hollow shell]

In terms of actual sprite quality it was indeed worse

[soft gazelle]

i disagree but ok

[molten leaf]

also do you know anything about new calamity whips cause i heard that u guys wouldn't be adding them for a long time

[soft gazelle]

was it not the same as the mcnuggets are now?

[small timber]

calamity whips will be added eventually iirc

[hollow shell]

They are indeed far on the backburner but we will do them eventually

[small timber]

just not now, balancing the whips that currently exist takes priority before adding new ones

[hollow shell]

Nope, the McNuggets use a new sprite based on the old design

[soft gazelle]

o

then nevermind

still fat birb cute

[west jackal]

The fat one was just iconic

[soft gazelle]

see

this guy gets it

[west jackal]

The sprite wasn’t that good though

Compared to now at least

[soft gazelle]

but they updated it with mcnuggets

[molten leaf]

also is infernum mode still bugged in multiplayer?

[hollow shell]

Yeah we knew a lotta people liked em so that's why we immortalized em as a pet

[soft gazelle]

more shading and coloring

[hollow shell]

Not the place to ask, they have their own Discord

[molten leaf]

o srry

[soft gazelle]

whats infernum mode

[west jackal]

Difficulty mod for calamity

[soft gazelle]

o

[molten leaf]

basically a dlc

[hollow shell]

Unofficial, technically

[soft gazelle]

what was the mode that they added above death again

[hollow shell]

That was Malice

[molten leaf]

no thats malice

[soft gazelle]

why u guys remove it

it was fun

[west jackal]

Malice

[hollow shell]

There's a whole schpiel about it in-game

[soft gazelle]

?

ok

[hollow shell]

Here you can read it on this page https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Difficulty

[west jackal]

It tells you in the difficulty indicator

[molten leaf]

is calamity's vanities also unofficial

[half sage]

yes

[hollow shell]

Yes

[half sage]

anything that isn't calamity or calamity music mod is unofficial

[soft gazelle]

egg

[west jackal]

Yeah

[half sage]

even if made by a cal dev

[hollow shell]

Indeed

[west jackal]

It needs approval from fab to be official I’d assume

[crude geode]

Pretty sure not just fab

[hollow shell]

Yeah it'd be a bit more of a process than just that

[west jackal]

A majority of the team

[small timber]

if it is "official" it would be inside calamity mod itself instead of a separate mod, tldr of it

[cobalt pewter]

Infernum only exists in cal as a recommendation to an alternative to a removed mode (which is significantly better than said removed mod)

beyond that Infernum is unofficial

[vocal grotto]

"Official" is a bit of an arbitrary term in that it doesn't mean much beyond an official attachment to the Calamity Team as a collective
That said though, Infernum is not official and never will be. And it also never will be an official in-the-base-mod replacement for Malice, due to a slew of enormous balancing headaches, the jarring juxtaposition of having two completely different sets of bosses, and in general conflicting at points with Fab's (the person who does boss AIs for base Calamity) design philosophies

[ashen warren]

Could we get the option to place the Rover Drive accessory in vanity slot and show it's awesome new visual after we outgrow it?

[cobalt pewter]

hm, I think such suggestion was mentioned here, idk if it got to voting though

hold on

you're in luck (it's on todo)

[ashen warren]

Nice thank you so much!

[cobalt pewter]

[half sage]

it's already in

[hollow shell]

Ah right an update came out literally today

[cobalt pewter]

oh what

real

what no changelogs does to a mf

[ashen warren]

Even better haha. I meant to ask last week when I seen the visual. Well in that case sorry for not noticing!

[small timber]

@hot zephyr (not sure who to ping, but someone in nohit cord found the remaining remnant of rectangle hitbox moment)

[gray nebula]

?

qué

i hope u realize that modderstoolkit doesnt show custom hitboxes

it even says it

i mean it still seems its a rectangle but yea

[small timber]

I think there was an attempt (which they get hit by what presumably is misaligned hitbox) which lead to checking for it

but ya, I am not the source so I am also unsure if it is 100% accurate

this is the original video

(got hit at this moment)

[gray nebula]

why is prov so small wh

y are they doing ftw nohit

deserved hit

[frosty trellis]

Ftw should not dictate the hitboxes not making any sense

[small timber]

(people are bored)

[hot zephyr]

smol

[frosty trellis]

You can make the fight unfair and not have the hitboxes make no sense

[small timber]

I dont think ftw providence have any hitbox/projectile size change iirc

[ruby plover]

can confirm this is the reason

[hot zephyr]

it's

the vanity slot

[crude geode]

^

@full basalt you're gonna need more reasoning

[keen zodiac]

vanilla doesn't even do that

just get the hidden vanity mod

[full basalt]

that's a thing?

[keen zodiac]

it's configurable

[full basalt]

Well that solved a lot of my problems LOL

[full basalt]

what you mean more reasoning

[crude geode]

every sugg needs reasoning behind it?

at least some

[full basalt]

same reason why someone would want to toggle off their own accessory slots?

Sorry I'm not following along

[keen zodiac]

again
vanity slot

[full basalt]

Many people use vanity slot so they can put their extra accessories there

I do that all the time because it saves inventory space

[tardy geyser]

put that in the suggestion then

[crude geode]

^

[keen zodiac]

you need a detailed explanation of why your feature/item would benefit the mod and not be a waste of time

"it would be cool" for example, is not a reason

for more info, read the pinned google doc

[crude geode]

byeah if another mod does this then this sugg seems unnecessary

[hot zephyr]

idk they're kinda... vanity slots for a reason

[crude geode]

it's like the whole name of the slot

[cobalt pewter]

terraria players have ingrained using vanity slots as an acc storage option that this sugg appeared in the first place

[crude geode]

so much so they brought it back in 1.4.4

[cobalt pewter]

I'm probably on the odd crowd that the reverted change to vanity slots shouldn't be done now that they implemented loadouts

but oh well

[crude geode]

this channel is always the odd crowd

[cobalt pewter]

god.

[hot zephyr]

too bad loadouts kinda suck

regrind your gear lol

[cobalt pewter]

me with journey mode:

what is grind

[versed cape]

@full basalt theres a mod called hidden vanity or smth that does exactly that

[cobalt pewter]

first suggestion post update

the update is so silent no one else has suggested anything yet

[sleek stone]

hoi

im still have problems with calamity vanites

and the tmodloader update

[cobalt pewter]

might be better to ask on the calval server?

it's in #other-discords btw

[small timber]

does cooldown really count for decaying effect though?

[cobalt pewter]

it is a bit complicated yeah

[small timber]

oh right silva did that actually right?

so it isnt without precedent

[cobalt pewter]

though it feels weird that the effect has no direct feedback whatsoever

ah hmm

[small timber]

silva revive have its remaining duration shown on cooldown rack

need to recheck

[cobalt pewter]

ahh I should mention that once confirmed then

I don't have a save with silva armor

(I've been playing nothing but rogue)

[small timber]

I mean technically this should also be applied to many things like trinket of chi

but ya, in this case just focus on the suggestion and whether there is precedent

[cobalt pewter]

one step at a time

[small timber]

actually no it didnt display on cooldown rack

I just thought it is that way since it immediately put silva revive cooldown into the rack

[cobalt pewter]

ahh

[small timber]

ok found one that DO do it that way

[cobalt pewter]

ooh what is

[small timber]

I just misremembered it to be silva

sec

[cobalt pewter]

alr

so far the rework seems nice but the lack of feedback makes it a bit confusing

[main hatch]

#suggestions-posting message

[nocturne coral]

Would Celestial Starboard functionality on end game wing/boot be worth while?

[main hatch]

i like this

[cobalt pewter]

especially when there are a chunk of rogue weapons that lie around before hitting anything

[main hatch]

i like the idea but i also think adding hover would make scal too easy

[cobalt pewter]

so the time when you actually would hit an enemy with stealth strikes would be very inconsistent to optimize off without a direct feedback

[main hatch]

if its like celestial tracers with hover added

[small timber]

adding hovering to wing boots is fine, but you probably should elaborate more why wing boots need it

[cobalt pewter]

my god thanks

[small timber]

I know many people disagree, but wing boots are actually a ton better than wings at in air horizontal speed

[cobalt pewter]

imma mention it in me sugg then

[small timber]

let me see if I have the video in this channel, since it is very difficult to post long videos nowadays

ok ya it is here

tldr wing boots are actually not as bad as people think it is

the only thing is the progression is super scuffed, you have seraph all the way to elysian at post-DoG, then 1 tier later immediately celestial; but throughout post-ML to pre-DoG wing boots just have 0 upgrades

yharon's dragonfire duration is nerfed in half in the newest update

and that update is already live

yeah

no more 9 seconds dragonfire on ram

(and also ram no longer inflict debuffs on you)

[lilac mauve]

Wait so if you ram into yharon, and don’t take damage because you rightfully weren’t hit, you don’t get debuffed

[small timber]

yeah, fixed in the newest update

[lilac mauve]

[eternal escarp]

damn ghost pinged

[small timber]

something something yharon too weak with stem cell, too strong without stem cell, dragonfire hurt too much

either nerf dragonfire or buff yharon damage but remove dragonfire, tldr of it

but then since dragonfire is nerfed + ram debuff fixed they deleted the ping

[cobalt pewter]

yea

[eternal escarp]

nah its fine

though i think many people would be more happy to know why they got pinged anyway instead of it being a question

dw about it though

[small timber]

yeah, probably best just to keep the message

[thorny junco]

Watch as I get berated to death by the entire calamity community

[frosty trellis]

There are two calamity flasks: Flask of Crumbling and Flask of Brimstone Flames

[thorny junco]

Oh yeah

[versed cape]

both of those arent even proper flasks btw

[frosty trellis]

And honestly I don't really see a need for more flasks....?

[versed cape]

since you can stack them

[frosty trellis]

Yeah you can which is cool

[versed cape]

theyre basically vanilla pots that look like flasks and have the effect of them

[frosty trellis]

True

But being able to stack them is fun

Ichlor + Armor Crunch

[distant gyro]

you can't flask stack anymore

[frosty trellis]

Oh that was fixed? Sad

[versed cape]

since last update?

[frosty trellis]

How much DR does armor crunch reduce now?

[distant gyro]

15%

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406493898341613568/1024818117316202496/2022-09-28_18-58-45.mp4

[versed cape]

guess I didnt see that in the changelog

wait no I didnt, that was straight up not mentioned in the log

[tardy smelt]

abyss looks pretty

although uuh

lemme get a pic from a normal world

there

[versed cape]

true true, good suggestion

[tardy smelt]

thought this was #calamity-update-talk for some reason, excuse me

[gray nebula]

cal adds flasks and immediately after people ask for more

[eternal escarp]

the curse of additions

did you already forget the "more mechs" suggestions?

[small timber]

Instead of letting some debuff be unique property of some specific weapon how about we just make every single weapon get them by turning them into flask

[eternal escarp]

debuffs are now strictly a flask mechanic

everyone autopilots to the highest dps bidder

[small timber]

I think holy wrath is the biggest offender yeah

There is 0 reason not to use it outside of crafting cost, and it is just holy flame flask for all class

[drowsy plank]

ah yes because that's what cal needs