what is it
#suggestions-discussion
proud quest
gilded scroll
what is it
assign different ammo to guns/bows
like a bullet to x gun, and b bullet to y gun
crude geode
especially when other things exist, such as everything else on devplans.png
cobalt pewter
you have called
the unstoppable
(nah honestly he'll probably just simp over wynncraft for a minute here and yeet away)
cobalt pewter
true true
I would love for more Stealth strikes to be interesting but realistically it's low on priority
proud quest
@manic chasm infernum adds an arena for ceaseless and polter
gilded scroll
pretty sure the mods are taking a break and the next update is just gonna be bug fixes anyways
maybe a random item or two, but thats about it
frosty trellis
Always has been
Death is significantly easier and way more predicatable and also easier to see what the hell is going on
sand umbra
incredibly true
proud quest
no fucking way this got only 100 upvotes
not advertising the post btw
jesus christ this is one of the biggest boss problems in the mod and it got 100 less upvotes than everything else
cobalt pewter
that's typical suggs
gilded scroll
imagine not needing to fight the Sentinels anyways
but in a more serious light, yeah
cobalt pewter
only small things like flipping the sprite of Icicle Arrow will thrive
( @dapper coral slay bestie )
wait fuck it pinged
crude geode
reminder that fixing that one pixel on thanatos got rejected by dev
proud quest
reminder that fixing that one pixel on thanatos got rejected by dev
what pixel
gilded scroll
suffer, OCD people
hot zephyr
i voted to decline
proud quest
Death is *significantly* easier and way more predicatable ~~and also easier to s...
makes sense on how i was able to beat it FIRST TRY
god damn
death mode dog is easy as shit
compared to yharon
and its the other way around in rev
they should def fix that
frosty trellis
Yeah fair enough
crude geode
what pixel
frosty trellis
Death Yharon can be slightly bs
proud quest
Death Yharon can be slightly bs
like i had to try him 10 times compared to dog which is easily one of the easiest bosses in death
frosty trellis
pretty sure this is intentional
It's not
Just there isn't a really clean way to fix it from what I've heard
thorn dock
No new sugg go into voting, or does my phone show me incorrectly?
thorn dock
Okay 0:..
proud quest
It's not
oh
i thought it was to make sure no one was spamming dash for iframes
like as a nerf
frosty trellis
No that's the point of ramming it to iframe
proud quest
No that's the point of ramming it to iframe
i mean i just thought the debuff was added so it wouldnt be too powerful
deft yew
reminder that fixing that one pixel on thanatos got rejected by dev
Why would that be a thing
proud quest
like you contemplate whether you dash and get debuff damage or risk getting by dodging
like gambling
yet it wasnt intentional at all lmao
also how does gaining debuffs while ramming work with infernum dog?
because isnt ramming essential for beating dog on infernum
deft yew
Infernum DoG does not inflict debuffs with his body
also 1.7 makes him slower if you don’t have a ram
proud quest
Infernum DoG does not inflict debuffs with his body
also 1.7 makes him slower if...
oh
whats 1.7
infernum?
glass arch
infernum v1.7 id assume
bc calamity isnt on 1.7, its on 2.0, and regular terraria ia still on 1.4
deft yew
correct
proud quest
AGHHHH if that suggestion about antlions shooting less sand doesnt get accepted i will cry my eyes out
this shit is so goddamn annoying
small timber
@ashen warren wrong formatting of the suggestion, you need to:
Title
(shift+enter)
Reasoning of the suggestion
hollow shell
@inland saddle Another bot ping
small timber
And yharon's fire ball attack are pattern based so it can be learnt, dragonfire immunity can be acquired by using dynamo stem cell
It is abit awkward since it is ranger accessory, but it still give 10% movement speed and is still way worth it (I just hope there is more options)
zenith hazel
#suggestions-voting message this suggestion is now done, bot's offline rn so I'm manually saying it
@open meadow
zenith hazel
well you learn smth new everyday ig
cobalt pewter
that's pretty cool
has quite a few potential
(like putting the sprites for Ashes of Calamity and Titan Hearts in the tooltips of Altar of the Accursed and Astral Beacon respectively)
swift wharf
oh shit
safe oasis
wait you can put item sprites into tooltips now?
for quite a while now yeah
swift wharf
it even has the funny colors
dapper coral
( <@382060393868034049> slay bestie )
i have made my undeniable mark on this server and this comment is proof
frosty trellis
LOL
crystal cedar
Put this channel in #suggestions-voting , takes to long
no respect for INTUITIVE, FUN suggestions systems 😤
frosty trellis
Smpgh
crystal cedar
shaking my wulfrum spy bot shaped head rn
inland saddle
<@262663471189983242> Another bot ping
Finally got home so it’s back up now
frosty trellis
Ty Nycro!
hollow shell
Uhh mostly back
frosty trellis
Somewhat back bc it worked for a few suggestions and gone
inland saddle
Supposed to be back again
If it crashes again I'll need to take a look at the code tomorrow
Okay yeah it looks like it really fucking hates this video for some reason
And hangs whenever it tries to download it so it can reupload
Then crashes
I probably won't be able to fix this until early tomorrow afternoon
hollow shell
mm
Perhaps I should tell XP to delete that sugg and find some other way to show the vid?
inland saddle
If you tell him to do that then it might work
If that message gets deleted I'll start the bot up again
hollow shell
@small timber
inland saddle
Likely won't crash after that but if it does then I'll have to debug tomorrow
hollow shell
(Dunno if they'll be back online any time soon)
inland saddle
Suggestion repost:
Make Bosses Light Up The Screen (similar to Calamitas Clone), Especially Night Bosses
Currently visibility can be an issue especially with night bosses unless with extensive arena setup (which is harder when not using any QoL/cheat mods). This also ruins the aesthetic aspect by basically making it mandatory to place torches or campfires everywhere (night owl potion + shine potion alone is not enough as it only helps when the boss is already at close range).
Calamitas Clone uses a special shader which makes her and her projectile always visible despite having no light sources. Another examples are Plaguebringer Goliath which also makes the fight much fairer as the stinger projectiles and minions are clearly visible.
This will provide significantly greater visual clarity especially for players who do not use cheat sheet paint tools/world edit to have perfect arena (which is most of the general players) if the same feature were to be introduced on other bosses.
hollow shell
I have the video and sugg text saved, I could just do it now and apologize later
Ah yes that works
inland saddle
If you delete that other one I'll start it up
inland saddle
Sweet
hollow shell
Sorry XP
You'll probably need to convert the video to some other encoding, or just upload it unlisted to YouTube
inland saddle
If it crashes after this then something changed behind the scenes with discord or downloading or maybe both, and it's nothing I can't fix but I don't have the time to debug it right now unfortunately
Should be back up
hollow shell
Ah right this too
inland saddle
Ping me if it goes offline again, and I'll get it looked at as soon as I can
hollow shell
@proud quest Your video is over 8 MB, use this site to compress it and repost your suggestion with the smaller file instead https://8mb.video/
inland saddle
Since the video is over 8mb, the bot knows not to try to send it
hollow shell
That's good, that's good
open meadow
Oooo, thank you so much, looks great!
inland saddle
Oh for fucks sake
Yeah I think something with the download code might need to be modified
Not sure why exactly but I’ll figure it out
hollow shell
Hm
inland saddle
Looks like it actually wasn’t xp’s video
It’s one that’s in dev
Regardless I’ll fix it ASAP tomorrow
hollow shell
Oh dear
small timber
**Make Bosses Light Up The Screen (similar to Calamitas Clone), Especially Night...
oh sry, do I repost the suggestion?
oh it can't process the video?
hollow shell
Things are uncertain
small timber
yeah, I will just repost the suggestion without video for now
hollow shell
If you are capable of uploading it as a YT vid then that would be best
No need for the bot to download anything
If not then, that's fine
small timber
yeah I will upload it to YT, just, didn't expected it to be the source of crash
since last time it got posted just fine (just if videos are above 8mb they get automatically deleted)
hollow shell
yeah there musta been some back-end change that made things once-okay now not-okay
proud quest
<@800159574262939668> Your video is over 8 MB, use this site to compress it and ...
oh
can i just redo the post without the video
i dont think i need it anyways
hollow shell
If you want I guess
But I think it helps accentuate the point for anyone unfamiliar
distant gyro
link drop or something
proud quest
or can it get accepted nonetheless
proud quest
link drop or something
how do i do that
converting it to 8mb rn but does it have to be a link
distant gyro
send a video, copy link, put the link at the bottom of the suggestion
distant gyro
links will go through even if the video is above 8
hollow shell
👍
small timber
oh ya I should do discord link instead of yt, just to not self promote
I forgot I can just link in discord
frosty trellis
Fair enough
small timber
frail mantle
a new difficulty harder than death isn't happening
kindred creek
Why?
small timber
there is a reason malice is removed in the first place
frail mantle
part of the point of executing malice was so more effort could be put on making death a better difficulty
frail mantle
infernum exists too yes
small timber
calamity also do not really work on multiplayer, it is abit of a stretch
kindred creek
Bruh, that’s gonna be like 2 years from now.
tardy smelt
destroyer is uh, wacky but the other deathmode changes are quite cool
small timber
it is not straight up disabled, but no multiplayer is not exactly something calamity is suitable at
kindred creek
calamity also do not really work on multiplayer, it is abit of a stretch
It works pretty well. Only issue is boss agro can br kinda janky.
Ok, sorry, 6 months from now.
frail mantle
the next update is 1.7
kindred creek
Is there a release date?
ruby plover
im gonna go out on a limb and say no
i know im not a dev for it, but if its not known on the server, its not existent
better to leave these things in the unknown anyway
give the devs the room they need to make it as good as they can
ruby plover
yayyyyy what a great idea
kindred creek
Death destroyer is easier because his hit box is massive.
he's easier you say
kindred creek
I can do destroyer first try most times
frail mantle
ruby plover
that means you are good at the boss
kindred creek
He’s always the first mech because he’s so ez
kindred creek
I’m suggesting that rn
ruby plover
wut
question, what are your fight times like
and, do you cheese him with momentum capacitor, or similar items
i would exclaim that sugg
too big a scope my man
kindred creek
No, I don’t cheese him
ruby plover
have you perhaps
read the
suggestion document
kindred creek
I’m suggesting that rn
This was sarcasm
ruby plover
well, good job indicating that 👍
small timber
leave revengeance as it is
kindred creek
Revengence is basically expert but with rage and adrenalin
small timber
it is meant to be played by even new player, and for new player revengeance is sufficiently difficult
ruby plover
Revengence is basically expert but with rage and adrenalin
too big an oversimplification
small timber
revengeance literally revamped every single vanilla AI
kindred creek
All items are available on all difficulties. New players should play base game. Why else would the change be made?
ruby plover
one of these days he shall put forth a point that is actually based
frail mantle
death is supposed to be harder than rev but it is not meant to be an ultra hard omega punch your cock in the balls prepare to ultradie crying difficulty
kindred creek
Master mode is ez af. It is literally just a damage and health boost. It doesn’t even revamp AIs.
Eternity is designed perfectly. Love eternity mode.
small timber
the change was made because difficulty locking items is quite stupid, especially some accessories requiring expert/revengeance material, I will not imagine the main reason is "hey let's play expert calamity", because you will miss out on literally half of the bosses
frail mantle
the mod does not balance around master in any way
frosty trellis
^
ruby plover
i dont think calling a mode easy is the best way to go about it
frosty trellis
Calamity left master the fuck alone
ruby plover
its not productive at all
kindred creek
Calamity should buff master mode
frail mantle
i don't know if it already does but giving master in the world creation menu a disclaimer that says "lmao this will fucking suck" was considered
small timber
tldr the suggestion should not suggest to buff revengeance mode, especially to significant degree
frail mantle
the most changes master might get is toning down enemy damage to be less zanechamp
small timber
the "feels like vanilla difciulty" is not even true with 99% of vanilla bosses being changed
just let people (especially new player) enjoy revengeance mode instead of buffing it to the point of discouraging people from trying the mode at all just because you think it is too easy
frail mantle
exclaim it at this point, anyway
well the thing is fab wants to rework death to be more unique at some point
small timber
buff death sure why not, not revengeance
ruby plover
thats what im thinking he wants, yeah
cobalt pewter
i don't know if it already does but giving master in the world creation menu a d...
just straight up do a Sans and move the create world button away from the cursor in real time
kindred creek
Yes.
ruby plover
which, to that, i say: infernum!
small timber
yeah, to certain degree revengeance is meant to be an enjoyable experience (and I think that somewhat hold true)
ruby plover
and if you slander that im legally allowed to strike you down here and now
small timber
I dont think there are any particular boss that I feel are overtuned for revengeance
kindred creek
which, to that, i say: infernum!
Doesn’t work in multiplayer. Already played it in single player.
small timber
maybe aureus but aureus has its own problem
kindred creek
Half the fun of terraria comes from multiplayer.
small timber
if all your experience comes from multiplayer then do not expect anything other than malice (which is literally overtuned statwise) to be challenging
half sage
Doesn’t work in multiplayer. Already played it in single player.
then wait for it to be multiplayer ready, and if your response to that is that it'll take too long, reworking all of rev/dev while doing all the other stuff they wanna do currently like biome reworks will take as long if not longer
small timber
because turns out the mod is not balanced around multiple x hp value, infinite respawn and about 2-3x (minimum) more player dps; let alone aggros
kindred creek
I play single player but mainly for specific challenges like short swords only. Multiplayer is generally more fun in my opinion.
ruby plover
well, that is an opinion then
frail mantle
then wait for it to be multiplayer ready, and if your response to that is that i...
basically this
kindred creek
Multiplayer allows for death cycling too, so it gets way too easy.
small timber
just let people (especially new player) enjoy revengeance mode instead of buffin...
but ya, it is back to this
kindred creek
But having friends to play the game with is more fun that difficulty.
small timber
just buff death, dont touch revengeance
kindred creek
True
ruby plover
its the base calamity difficulty, it should be the MOST accessible
frail mantle
infernum multiplayer compatibility might take fifteen years but so will buffing both rev and death to be harder beyond just inflating their stats again
kindred creek
Add back death heat and cold damage
frail mantle
no
ruby plover
hot take after hot take...
kindred creek
My hottest take is that I think astrum aureus should be removed.
ruby plover
it wont be
frail mantle
heat and cold damage was a cool idea but not well executed
ruby plover
@orchid wing that belongs in #bugs-read-pins
frail mantle
My hottest take is that I think astrum aureus should be removed.
unfortunate
kindred creek
It was a joke. Heat and cold damage, especially in space was dumb af.
orchid wing
<@796335329380007946> that belongs in <#332659630087995392>
Oopsie
half sage
<@796335329380007946> that belongs in <#332659630087995392>
also isn't that fixed in the next update
ruby plover
It was a joke. Heat and cold damage, especially in space was dumb af.
are you like. just saying things are a joke when we disagree with you
short walrus
My hottest take is that I think astrum aureus should be removed.
It's concept art is too cool for it to be removed
ruby plover
i get this feeling thats what ur doin
kindred creek
are you like. just saying things are a joke when we disagree with you
No, that was legitimately a joke
ruby plover
^^^ :)
kindred creek
Skill issue
frail mantle
small timber
it is made deliberately so
short walrus
Literally unable too also shitty to balance
small timber
the mod doesn't want to balance around 8 slot which will make the player beyond broken in many case, and I am extremely sure 7 slot is way more than enough
frail mantle
the mod does not balance around master in any way
small timber
if you want your 8th slot in master just use wing slot yeah
frail mantle
another accessory slot would be ass to balance
(although i believe adding a slot beyond 7 in 1.4 isn't too rancid)
short walrus
Ok good to know
distant gyro
it is pretty much trivial to add one now
it looks good in the grand scheme of things
normal 5/5/6
expert 5/6/7
master 6/7/7
that's a good matrix
cobalt pewter
you can theoretically spawn an 8th acc slot with Journey mode
I haven't actually tested if it works as a slot
but it's a thing
if you're curious
- Use Journey
- Set difficulty to Master
- Fill up acc slots
- Kill ML to get onyo
- Turn down difficulty to Expert
- Consume onyo
- Raise difficulty back to Master
there will be an acc slot with vanity and dye slot floating beside the main set of acc slots
distant gyro
the slot greys out
cobalt pewter
I should honestly try that again later
distant gyro
it's deliberately coded to fuck you out of the 8th if you cranked master on with onion
proud quest
is it against the rules to suggest adding more rogue pre hardmode weapons as oppose to focusing on hardmode and post moon lord?
shit is limiting af
distant gyro
no
distant gyro
as long as it's not limited to a subclass or some other random restriction
cobalt pewter
I'm fairly sure there's a handful on preboss
proud quest
ahaha no
cobalt pewter
if that's the concern
proud quest
if that's the concern
i mean i feel like there are a very limited amount of rogue weapons that are good in pre hardmode
distant gyro
basically "add more skeletron tier summon weapons" is cool (example)
"add more skeletron tier sentries" isn't
proud quest
if you say, for example, "add more yoyo's"
nananana i mean like put your focus on improving pre hardmode rather than adding post moonlord content
rogue doesnt even have its own cool nights edge equivalent
and thats a sin
cobalt pewter
not really
proud quest
well i just feel like rogue is forgotten pre hardmode
the only rogue weapon i like so far in pre hardmode is the wulfrum daggers
cobalt pewter
Tracking Disk is the sole best option from post hm / perfs all the way to Hardmode
if you meant that they haven't been up to Calamity's standards in design
ehhh, maybe
Wulfrum Knife rework is recent
distant gyro
most weapons aren't up to standards anyway
proud quest
most of the weapons pre hive mind feel so bad
sticky spike balls are insane but i cant get a single hit on the bosses
im trying it tomorrow
im mad af
cobalt pewter
sticky spike balls are insane but i cant get a single hit on the bosses
how
cobalt pewter
well no shit
proud quest
well no shit
ok
cobalt pewter
Infernum is not an official calamity difficulty
as much as it seems to be
plus it is designed to be way harder than usual
proud quest
besides infernum
the best update to come out of calamity rn are better pre hardmode weapons and more variety
but i guess theyre working on that a little
cobalt pewter
sticky spiky balls are balanced post-evil bosses (due to goblin army being post-evil despite being accessible Pre-Boss)
proud quest
sticky spiky balls are balanced post-evil bosses (due to goblin army being post-...
the thing is i feel the only thing i can use is sticky spike balls
meteor fist doesnt seem to do a lot of dps
cobalt pewter
Meteor Fist is also good as far as I'm aware
it chungus all over desert scourge for example
oh wait
I might be thinking of stealth
I have no clue how good those are with spam
keen zodiac
meteor fist op fabsol pls nerf
frosty siren
has there been any confirmation on anything regarding "friendly" or "placeable" lab turrets? I might make a suggestion for those if nothing recent exists
not the weapon
distant gyro
eternal approval limbo
(it's supposed to be bluecheck and not tools)
#suggestions-voting message
cobalt pewter
god
fossil finch
Eternity is designed perfectly. Love eternity mode.
Went back and had to comment on how bad this take is
short walrus
i think everything he has said is a "joke"
inner anvil
Though something about this suggestion that we're already adding is more stuff to Death Mode, boss-wise.
But Rev is basically finished.
ruby plover
His takes are lukewarm, edging on cold
It’s hard to know when he’s being serious lmao 
inner anvil
Like, something that he's kinda' right about is that Death is not that much to be honest.
And Fab knows that.
inner anvil
Yeah.
ruby plover
Revengeance is 🤌 delicious, as of now
swift wharf
remove rev from the sugg and it's good
ruby plover
Good mode
Death is cool, just a lil underwhelming, but there’s not much point saying that when it’s on the to-do list
inner anvil
Rev is basically polished.
If there's a change it's like a boss rework or changing an unfair attack.
swift wharf
because if you want the mod to be hard, why are you asking to buff the 2 hardest difficulties instead of the hardest one
swift wharf
yea
inner anvil
Death will be cool.
bright crag
👀
ruby plover
inner anvil
Stip, don't put me those eyes, you know what all the changes are lmao.
swift wharf
death changes are going to be what fab wanted for mastermode 10 years ago
bright crag
I do in fact
bright crag
Beans?
inner anvil
He wants you to spoil.
drowsy plank
if you want the game to be harder just crank up the boss health multiplier and disable all of calamity's QoL features 
inner anvil
Heh.
drowsy plank
spoil the beans
ruby plover
drowsy plank
leave them out on the counter until they go bad
bright crag
Beans spoil by themselves with the passage of time
drowsy plank
0assage
inner anvil
What the fuck is that?
ruby plover
The fruits of my labour
bright crag
But for real, Revengeance seems to be really perfect for what ot intends to do rn
ruby plover
Oh yeah, definitely
bright crag
The fruits of my labour
Your labor is questionable
ruby plover
Well yeah :) you know me :)
bright crag
So true!
ruby plover
swift wharf
death changes are going to be what fab wanted for mastermode 10 years ago
dreaded
short walrus
terror
bright crag
:clueless:
short walrus
truly, Death
ruby plover
Acid Venom
small timber
I do wish death eye non-horizontal get revamped though
bright crag
I just hope Death will be a sizeable step up while also feeling fresh and accessible to players
small timber
Currently it is just like vanilla: run in 1 direction automiss
inner anvil
Yes, there are Death EoC plans.
bright crag
I do know the reworks but I can't really judge most based on just reading, so I'll just wait and see
small timber
One particular in mind that can be applied directly like retinazer phase 3 rocket dash (but without rocket since it is eoc)
small timber
They are happening soon™️
inner anvil
Eventually.
swift wharf
ashen warren
when you kill yo
cobalt pewter
jojostands compatibility that adds wou
no + L + ratio + your mom fell off + jojostands is mid + tba is better
pseudo hill
we need slime core phase back fr
i used to have a lot of problems fighting slime gods
now he's super easy
at least in harder difficulties
drowsy plank
SG has always had an issue of being easy
pseudo hill
at least in harder difficulties
if not normally
short walrus
readding old content is a don't
and it was removed so that people could actually hit the damn thing
drowsy plank
add core phase to queen slime 
pseudo hill
SG has always had an issue of being easy
well i used to have a hard time fighting him but with the core removed he is baby
like i bet you could beat him before any other boss if you have a not shit arena
drowsy plank
yeah a harder fight for him honestly couldnt hurt
short walrus
well i used to have a hard time fighting him but with the core removed he is bab...
i think cope and seethe somewhere else because it won't come back
deft yew
SG has always had an issue of being easy
SG has always had an issue of design but that’s like half the game at this point
drowsy plank
true
short walrus
@eternal fern don't suggest balance changes (takes too long) ping a tester instead
cobalt pewter
@eternal fern balancing doesn't go there, you ping testers here
though yeah I think Subduction Slicer was pretty good
eternal fern
<@447048966169952262> balancing doesn't go there, you ping testers here
in here? this channel?
eternal fern
@hot zephyr the subduction slicer deals way too much damage on stealth strikes, the normal attacks are fine but the amount of burst dps that goes from the fire collumns alone is way too big, i can easily do 25k+ without rage or adrenaline.
short walrus
hydrothermic
inner anvil
Those are always overpowered.
cobalt pewter
Scoria weapon
inner anvil
Nailed it, obscure Rogue weapon.
deft yew
There’s a catch
The geyser can only appear on tiles and it’s kinda small
so you have to exploit it efficiently for it to work
cobalt pewter
does platform count
deft yew
idk tbh
devout shell
I am here to suggest… a full size aew pet from defeating me
short walrus
yeah don't
devout shell
The halibut cannon is not enough
short walrus
calvan already has an AEW pet (roleplay kinda cringe tbh)
devout shell
calvan already has an AEW pet (roleplay kinda cringe tbh)
Yeah idrc
Also their aew pet aint big enough
inner anvil
If you have actual reasoning to suggest it go ahead.
If not, don't bother.
And you're already at disadvantage if CalVal already has it.
devout shell
If you have actual reasoning to suggest it go ahead.
Like how the dungeon guardian drops the bone key, it would be cool for AEW to drop a similar thing
Also the calval one is buggy as hell
inner anvil
Ok, let me be more specific, tell me a "Why".
devout shell
Hmm
inner anvil
True...
devout shell
Honestly the main reason would be style points and a big(ger) sense of accomplishment, like you tamed the beast
But i suppose that isnt THAT great
inner anvil
Well, you didn't tame it, you kinda' just killed it on spot.
But apart from that, "Bigger sense of accomplishment", eh, I don't know.
devout shell
Yeah true, maybe its like you asserted dominance so the other ones follow you around
(They still kick your ass if you use the RoD)
Also i genuinely wish there was a boss mask for the mf, not even calval has one and it feels almost glaring that it was left out from both mods
hot zephyr
devout shell
grim tusk
Is it like an obscure Rogue weapon?
Nah, Scoria craft
inner anvil
Anything that is Rogue is obscure for me.
grim tusk
Could balance it when I get home, but pretty sure spam needs some buffs and stealth will just need to be adjusted to compensate for base dmg buff
But that could be left for the reckoning
grim tusk
I am here to suggest… a full size aew pet from defeating me
Install Calamity’s vanities
devout shell
Install Calamity’s vanities
(Please look at the rest of my suggestion, thank you in advance)
grim tusk
Also the calval one is buggy as hell
Report that to em
grim tusk
(Please look at the rest of my suggestion, thank you in advance)
What sugg?
devout shell
Lmao maybe a grappling hook, too
fossil finch
The solution is making him not a boss 🙏
drowsy plank
true!
grim tusk
Lmao maybe a grappling hook, too
There is no need for one
grim tusk
“It would be fun” sugg invalid
drowsy plank
swift wharf
they don't know that aew is a temporary superboss
hot zephyr
gray nebula
are you... fr
blazing kettle
two things. firstly, didnt calanity make it so you need 20 graves for a graveyard? and secondly, break the graves?????
drowsy plank
but the sentimentality of uh... a modified signpost in a block game
hollow shell
I mean I can get that
drowsy plank
just break one of the other 19 graves?? like this just does not seem like an issue
graveyard implementation is a bit wacky ill admit, but there is probably a better way to handle it than this
golden tulip
graveyard would be better if it would only activate if you manually placed the gravestones rather than them falling from deaths
drowsy plank
yeah
raw crystal
ok so I need phrasing for this one- daytime eol drop that gives you a summoner accessory that un-nerfs terraprisma to the 2.0.0.3 update's damage, and gives you holy flames immunity- for the purpose of not having to fight providence with the fucking elemental axe or flowers of morality
warbanner of sun says otherwise, plus I still hate elemental axe
small timber
They literally make terraprisna not daytime eol limited because they thought locking an absurdly strong item behind nohit is stupid
Why will they revert it, and on top of that buff it even more?
raw crystal
alright then, thanks for talking me out of it >:/
inner anvil
ok so I need phrasing for this one- daytime eol drop that gives you a summoner a...
?
Just, why?
Dies of balancing.
raw crystal
for my usage, plague jet is necessary with axes and flowers of morality
plague jet acid bullets specifically
small timber
Just unnerf stardust dragon so it is providence viable 🚎
inner anvil
Sure.
raw crystal
move sirius pre-polter and nerf it's damage
inner anvil
For what reason?
raw crystal
no one uses sirius because ethereal is the only way to kill dog as summoner
small timber
for my usage, plague jet is necessary with axes and flowers of morality
Wait, you mean you used plague jet + axe + flower on providence?
raw crystal
correct
inner anvil
no one uses sirius because ethereal is the only way to kill dog as summoner
Not until I nerf Ethereal.
raw crystal
2 plagues to proc plague on prov
inner anvil
Not until I nerf Ethereal.
Then after that what?
True...
Though Calamari is very bad, I need to buff that thing.
dense ferry
Do it
raw crystal
I love 10 minute boss fights e.e
small timber
Ok now I understand why you wanted more summoner options and thought the weapons are bad
dense ferry
Calamari sweep
inner anvil
Sure.
raw crystal
I'm not using cosmilamp ever again on DoG
small timber
Plague jet is bugged, as in, it literally is dealing prehm level of damage
inner anvil
I'll buff it then.
raw crystal
it literally isnt supposed to deal damage
small timber
You can summon 10 plague jet and they deal collectively 2k dps because of the bug
inner anvil
it literally isnt supposed to deal damage
Yes it is silly.
raw crystal
its supposed to proc effects
thats why its paired with ichor bullets, but acid bullets are better
raw crystal
thats like saying cosmic viper is supposed to be viable either
crude geode
Wow bad weapons need to be buffed? What a concept.
inner anvil
Nah bro, I invented IQ.
upbeat yacht
thats like saying cosmic viper is supposed to be viable either
it's supposed to but it isn't at the moment
i think it's quite shrimple
inner anvil
Anyways.
If bad then buff.
If too good then nerf.
We can have nice and simple things.
small timber
Yeah viper is not exactly caustic staff
inner anvil
Dumbface.
swift wharf
I do enjoy the logic of moving sirius to pre polter because it's bad instead of buffing it
It's quite nice
inner anvil
Too lazy.
swift wharf
True......
inner anvil
What's the deal?
swift wharf
Polter, Sentinels and Folly:
small timber
Just dont use holy fire bullet?
inner anvil
Polter, Sentinels and Folly:
Kid named the bosses that aren't Providence:
inner anvil
I forgor.
swift wharf
inner anvil
Anyways, I hate balancing.
swift wharf
let me do it for you instead
small timber
Polterghast is a dungeon miniboss I think imo iirc
swift wharf
inner anvil
let me do it for you instead
You hate it more than me.
crude geode
trolled
drowsy plank
no one uses sirius because ethereal is the only way to kill dog as summoner
isnt sirius literally bugged right now with its scaling
raw crystal
(also yes, but memes wont admit to that either)
frail mantle
pretty sure sirius was fixed
crude geode
"137 - Fixed Sirius damage scaling not working. - Done ✅ "
drowsy plank
is that in the live update
crude geode
next update
drowsy plank
ok yeah well there you go Jla that's why it's dogshit rn so maybe dont move it pre-Polter
cause i remember sirius being really good before its scaling broke
inner anvil
Fine weapon.
crude geode
i love moving weapons instead of just balancing them
frosty trellis
pretty sure sirius was fixed
Can attest, Sirius is good for DoG
Sirius and Subjugator have comparable kill times
frosty trellis
Fine weapon.
Oh while you're here, what's the testing kill time for DoG again?
And when is pole warper getting a buff?
inner anvil
~~And when is pole warper getting a buff?~~
When someone tells me to go buff it.
inner anvil
You're a bruh moment.
frosty trellis
Lmaoooo
frosty trellis
Oh while you're here, what's the testing kill time for DoG again?
At the very least please answer this
inner anvil
Oh while you're here, what's the testing kill time for DoG again?
4 min.
crude geode
Oh while you're here, what's the testing kill time for DoG again?
isn't this listed on the dr kill times or is that not there anymore
crude geode
yes
inner anvil
Good.
Anything about buffing/nerfing summoner literally just tell me.
Like, literally.
frosty trellis
Anyways, yes, I won't mean, I'll go buff Pole Warper.
Also Kindles and Sun Beacon are overtuned
(Ignore the saros was just having fun)
inner anvil
It had a 2x damage multiplier for some reason.
So yes, now I can balance Saros finally.
frosty trellis
Let's go!
crude geode
Oh while you're here, what's the testing kill time for DoG again?
oh right since rdr got removed the killtimes got removed from the wiki
lolol
frosty trellis
Also Cosmic Vipor engine is....
inner anvil
Lmao get fucked.
crude geode
vipor
frosty trellis
Ty! That's all I have for you then memes
inner anvil
I'm basically in charge of that at this point.
frosty trellis
Who would I ping for mage because I have two pdfs for them
inner anvil
And then there's CrabBar (If not, other people) there to stop me if I do something silly.
inner anvil
Who would I ping for mage because I have two pdfs for them
Stip or Xyk, I think.
frosty trellis
Aight ty
inner anvil
Also, it's not like we are like obligated to go for one class.
We can test everything, it's just I'm more often doing summoner than not.
I still test the new content.
frosty trellis
Fair enough
Well, @bright crag Have some more mage weapons for you just post yharon tier this time.
inner anvil
I mentioned that you are usually the person dealing with Mage, so I figured.
bright crag
Ok, thank you!
bright crag
~~I mentioned that you are usually the person dealing with Mage, so I figured.~~
Don't worry, I'm always happy to check mage
inner anvil
Great.
raw crystal
Also Kindles and Sun Beacon are overtuned
kindle unironically ass I will never touch it
hate that stupid chicken drop
drowsy plank
are you using it with GSA also they... dont look like chickens anymore even
when was the last time you played lmao
crude geode
are you using it with GSA also they... dont look like chickens anymore even
god....gsa
what an ass artifact
raw crystal
I can barely stand profaned core as a warding summoner
gsa just does not stand for jack
inner anvil
Profaned Core is bad.
raw crystal
profaned core is good
it is a reliable pre-polterghast reaper tooth necklace
and defensive and healing profaned guardians make no fucking sense on it
but thats imo
frosty trellis
are you using it with GSA also they... dont look like chickens anymore even
I did not use Kindle with gsa. If you look in the picture I sent my setup is right there
No changes to make it fair and equal
bright crag
and defensive and healing profaned guardians make no fucking sense on it
I think you mean PSA
crude geode
what an ass artifact
I love an accessory that just reinforces spamming the same summon instead of doing quirky unique mixes of summons
inner anvil
There is Profaned Core (Bad).
And then there's Profaned Soul Artifact (The good one).
bright crag
PSA is the summoner exclusive one that summons guardians
raw crystal
I mean eldritch soul is funny because of whispering death
profaned core is the one that summons guardians...
frosty trellis
kindle unironically ass I will never touch it
They're almost a full minute under testing kill time
raw crystal
fucking damnit
frosty trellis
What
raw crystal
eldritch soul artifact
frosty trellis
Eldritch? I mean it's 2 slots lol
Useful for when doing Yharon testing since nothing has slot limitations
And for DoG
raw crystal
eldritch soul is nice for polter and dog since whispering death
frosty trellis
But for SCal bc of kindles? Ehhh, not really
frosty trellis
eldritch soul is nice for polter and dog since whispering death
Fair enough
inner anvil
I have never used Eldritch Soul on my life.
raw crystal
switch it out for dark sun for yharon then for your wings post game
and then you can run all three endogenesis, umbrella, and metastasis
laughs in summoning god complex
frosty trellis
~~I have never used Eldritch Soul on my life.~~
It's 2 minion slots which makes it useful by itself
Just with pre-scal loadouts it isn't a good idea to have more than 15 slots for obvious reasons with Kindles as it's just waste of space at that point
drowsy plank
i love how awful all of ESA's other effects are compared to just
inner anvil
Ok.
drowsy plank
"+2 minions"
raw crystal
15% faster ranged boolets
frosty trellis
+2 minion slots can make a ton of difference LOL
raw crystal
kekw
frosty trellis
But yeah the other effects are ass
crude geode
it's basically just a summon accessory, and a stat stick for everyone else
raw crystal
whispering death immunity
frosty trellis
A stat stick that c.shell does better anyways
raw crystal
dont take this from me that one is good
drowsy plank
ive never had a problem with whisp death tbh
raw crystal
cshell also has holy/nightwither immunity
frosty trellis
ive never had a problem with whisp death tbh
Same here
raw crystal
it was more a release 2.0 and 1.3.5 thing
raw crystal
since the defense breaking as added it has gone down the drain
frosty trellis
Ah
raw crystal
honestly a rework of whispering death making defense break faster would be cool
it would also make bloodflare core better
frosty trellis
Can always suggest that
drowsy plank
it wont pass voting but differentiating debuffs is always a plus
frosty trellis
Yeah
drowsy plank
maybe devs will notice at least
small timber
Devs seems to be moving towards the direction of making enemy debuff just deal damage I think
Most notably irridiated, which is a very recent change (and to certain degree dragon fire)
raw crystal
I thought the iradiated change was because it gave positive melee bonuses to afflicted targets
fossil finch
this is both a what do they mean and a how to kill your sugg 101
no but really what does this mean
drowsy plank
whispering death doesn't remove 50 defense and also tanking is completely viable you just cant sit on top of things anymore
idk why people think that means tanking is dead
fossil finch
what the fuck does that mean tankin isnt dead
raw crystal
if I cant camp tanking dead simple as that
raw crystal
when the hell do they find time to change these things e.e
it used to be removes 50 defense from players
drowsy plank
yeah it does not do that anymore
proud quest
why is hive mind summon only obtainable after beating the boss
bitter dove
Because the way you're supposed to spawn the boss before hand is killing a certain enemy that can't attack in corruption (same with preforators and crimson) which then spawns the boss.
And then use the boss materials it drops to make that summon and other items.
Also, the reason they exist is because it's for progression (that i normally forget exists and don't get aerialite till hardmode lmao) but also feels like it's optional.
Cause i've always skipped tier 2 evil bosses and just went straight for WoF
proud quest
Cause i've always skipped tier 2 evil bosses and just went straight for WoF
bro
what difficulty are u on
half imp
I went straight to wof with no bosses recently (bc it was low%)
technically all phm bosses are optional barring wof
proud quest
man im boutta make ANOTHER suggestion at this point\
i hate blood moons in pre hardmode
i wish i can use the bloody tear to disable blood moon
bitter dove
what difficulty are u on
Usually expert rev
proud quest
in death or infernum the enemy spawnrates are so fucking high for blood moon
bitter dove
I just end up skipping t2 evil bosses cause i somehow do well enough to kill WoF anyways.
proud quest
I just end up skipping t2 evil bosses cause i somehow do well enough to kill WoF...
rogue is incredibly underpowered where i am rn so i cant
half imp
lionfish
proud quest
now i have to wait 10 minutes for a fucking blood moon to pass
bitter dove
rogue is incredibly underpowered where i am rn so i cant
Ah. I still need to do a rogue only playthrough at some point.
half imp
if you're not post skeletron then yeah
proud quest
im not gonna skip bosses in infernum since theyre all batshit insane
half imp
but skeletron pre-evil is def doable (although not the easiest)
half imp
im not gonna skip bosses in infernum since theyre all batshit insane
true enough
crude geode
rogue is incredibly underpowered where i am rn so i cant
You say that about rogue every time it gets brought up here
bitter dove
My first playthrough was mixed, i was melee at first, then rogue, then ranger. Now i'm doing flat ranger only
proud quest
You say that about rogue every time it gets brought up here
i brought up the conversation twice
?
bitter dove
Rogue legit could've carried me to endgame but i was too tired to do dumbbell cheese so i just went ranger
crude geode
Both times you have said rogue is underpowered
proud quest
Both times you have said rogue is underpowered
so??
bitter dove
Glad i did, cause i now know how to craft Gjallarhorn and how to cheese yharon with it
proud quest
is it unreasonable to ask for a way to disable the blood moon using bloody tear yall
frosty trellis
Have you tried using the Cosmolight?
proud quest
Have you tried using the Cosmolight?
im not hardmode
bitter dove
is it unreasonable to ask for a way to disable the blood moon using bloody tear ...
Make a bed and block yourself in and speed up the time ig
proud quest
and i know this shit is gonna happen like 6 times before i beat wof
frosty trellis
Then fight the event? Blood orbs and useful shit
proud quest
Then fight the event? Blood orbs and useful shit
death mode spawnrates + shitty weapons
:/
bitter dove
Ik in blood moon you can fish up an enemy to give you a rogue weapon, bouncy eyeball or something like that
proud quest
plus i cant craft a bed because the blood moon enemies are gonna break down all the doors and kill the npcs and i dont wanna deal with that shit rn
crude geode
This isn’t the chat for this.
bitter dove
Imma let you all continue cause i was mainly here to explain the reasoning, as i see it, behind why the t2 evil bosses can't be summoned using their boss summon before you kill them.
crude geode
I could
I could also just ping a moderator like @frail mantle to tell you the same thing, to keep irrelevant discussions out of this channel.
frail mantle
This isn’t the chat for this.
i agree
if you're not discussing suggestions it's better to move to a different chat
proud quest
ill drop the convo but its annoying to have a guy constantly on my ass like the teachers pet
and i was talking about if yall agree about a suggestion i wanna post
and why i feel that way
so i dont understand the logic of having to have every single sentence relating to suggestions when every conversation happens to stray away from that from time to time
drowsy plank
nerfing blood moons has been rejected before i believe
rich echo
its not about every sentence, its about when the actual conversation has shifted from the channel topic
proud quest
nerfing blood moons has been rejected before i believe
not nerfing
rich echo
👍
drowsy plank
there's definetly ways you can build around the increased spawnrates, hoik pits are useful
also save & exit
rotund tree
its not about every sentence, its about when the actual conversation has shifted...
they were talking about an idea and whether or not it would be a good suggestion to make so i don't see how that was too off topic
proud quest
there's definetly ways you can build around the increased spawnrates, hoik pits ...
save and exit can despawn a bloodmoon?
drowsy plank
i guess having it togglable like caustic tear couldnt hurt
i guess save & exit just gets rid of the mobs but if you wanted to end the event, sundial exists
or did 1.4 HM lock that
i can never remember
proud quest
i mean i cant even craft sundial when i have death mode spawnrates and a bloodmoon with them breaking down all the doors and killing my npcs
drowsy plank
sundial is fishing
proud quest
i can craft it too i think
drowsy plank
you could just safety box until it's over
cal doesnt add a recipe for sundial to my knowledge?
rotund tree
but yeah for day/night events like this people will likely just say "wait until hardmode and use cosmolight", cuz by then the toggle feature would also be irrelevant
proud quest
cal doesnt add a recipe for sundial to my knowledge?
is that fargos or something
proud quest
makes sense
half imp
With that deus suggestion, they'd need to do something else to differentiate which is in which phase
since they act differently depending on their color and that's pretty crucial to know
half sage
^
that or them being static colors means they're locked into a particular ai pattern, which would make the fight a bit staler
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inner anvil
Nycro, why don't you just make the bot work.
Shaking my head Nycro, shaking my head.
😒
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zenith hazel
real
hollow shell
Nice nice
swift wharf
Huh
crude geode
keep in mind #suggestions-voting message
so some parts of that might go through and some might not
also devs might have changed their mind
swift wharf
That anahita sugg is different
It implies something different than "give us a left click to summon item to spawn levi"
inland saddle
Nycro, why don't you just make the bot work.
But memes I did
hot zephyr
Huh
(iirc)
More predictable A&L summon method 👍
Tier shifting the Hive Mind/Perforators/Deus spawners to be before the boss 👎
swift wharf
see
frosty trellis
Makes sense
deft yew
AD i disagree with
frosty trellis
I don't see a reason for why the dues one was ever an idea because altas's spawn like candy
deft yew
even though titan heart and starcore are a little weirdge
deft yew
AD i disagree with
(as in i like it how it is
mind and perfs are fine because getting cysts is easy enough
swift wharf
Whoever put deus in that suggestion is brain damaged don't worry
frosty trellis
HM/Prefs I can see having a more consistent method being nice but those spawn way too often for me anyways so I don't really have issues
deft yew
levana isn't fine because vanilla ocean generation is
frosty trellis
Whoever put deus in that suggestion is brain damaged don't worry
LOL
frosty trellis
levana isn't fine because vanilla ocean generation is <:XD:936106628833488906>
Yeah
swift wharf
titan hearts are not hard to get 💀
talking about funny ways of summoning bosses when will seafood become a chum bucket type of item smh
half sage
so true bestie
hot zephyr
swift wharf
dreaded place
deft yew
talking about funny ways of summoning bosses when will seafood become a chum buc...
TRUE
oh and get renamed because seafood is weirdge
swift wharf
maybe
crude geode
it's perfect. it's extremely generic for a generic boss wdym
deft yew
true...
swift wharf
I have conflicting opinions about AS spawning naturally but that's just me
because I literally never get a natural spawn
swift wharf
my rng is just too bad/good
frosty trellis
because I literally never get a natural spawn
I got one on my first pt and then died to it while trying to go to the abyss
swift wharf
ski
cobalt pewter
it's not as bad now that you need to kill both worms but some distinction would still be nice
last time I fought Deus before the current update both worms just died when one is killed so distinction was way more important
half sage
rev and lower only one has to die, death they both have to
proud quest
wait
did they actually add my suggestion
oh my god
bro i think they did
the draedon labs emit sound now
nevermind they didnt
but the underground sunken sea is emitting a sound when im near/inside of it
and its registered as music?
deep stratus
i have an idea of combining gaels greatsword ark of the cosmos exoblade elemental excalibur and yharims ultisword to make one sword that you can change modes on and it acts like upgraded versions of each weapon i will skin a gerbal if it means this gets added
distant gyro
you can proceed to stop thinking about it
drowsy plank
devout shell
i have an idea of combining gaels greatsword ark of the cosmos exoblade elementa...
Somehow thats worse than my adult eidolon wyrm grappling hook idea
deep stratus
No
devout shell
Yes
small timber
the idea will never happen, gael is a dedicated content
blazing kettle
yeah, and calanities crafting trees are big enough already
small timber
@spark portal already planned
gilded scroll
im hoping mine passes, its about the best suggestion ive had so far lmao
gilded scroll
Surprised it only has 100 or so votes
solid skiff
Surprised it only has 100 or so votes
attracts ranger mains more than it attracts other class mains so
gilded scroll
eh fair, but still, it would make the class a lil less bland
(and it makes more sense then wulfrum toilet, that one was more of a meme)
small timber
that one is a good suggestio, just problem is more with technical side
because it will be pretty hard to code it
gilded scroll
yeah, thats the one really holding it back, but heres to hoping!
solid skiff
there's also it colliding with the ammo inventory
gilded scroll
(this person has basically never touched ranger except once or twice lmao)
solid skiff
(this person has basically never touched ranger except once or twice lmao)
I quit pre scal
it got a bit too boring
gilded scroll
which is the main issue of ranger, it isnt inherently BAD, its just BLAND, you can only do so much with bows and guns
solid skiff
I mean if guns why not add some dual wielding ability to the class
a sort of accessory that makes some guns be dual wielded at the price of somewhat reduced usage speed or damage or crit damage
solid skiff
there's already a lot of x but y in terraria
swift wharf
a sort of accessory that makes some guns be dual wielded at the price of somewha...
dreaded
literally ''add an accessory that makes all melee weapons true melee"
cobalt pewter
god
swift wharf
not everything needs to be quirky
frozen hornet
Cockwork bow, plumber, titan rail, adarail, condemnation, the soon-coming gale rework and the jailor are all quite recent
swift wharf
ele blaster rework
frozen hornet
When did that happen
frozen hornet
I see
swift wharf
and eruption too
(2025)
I hope the entire ele bow line gets reworked too
why is lunarian bow
frozen hornet
lunarian bow can slide into people's dms
cobalt pewter
Cockwork bow, plumber, titan rail, adarail, condemnation, the soon-coming gale r...
cockwork
distant gyro
when resprite gets real
swift wharf
frozen hornet
Every typo in this message is intentional
inner anvil
Plumber.
frozen hornet
You missed plumber stinky
cobalt pewter
god.....................!
swift wharf
anyways are you guys excited for the incoming wave of malding rogue fans
short walrus
not in the slightest!
cobalt pewter
are they fans if they can't see the better decisions
inner anvil
anyways are you guys excited for the incoming wave of malding rogue fans
Summoner fans will mald harder when the Summoner changelogs come after these Rogue changelogs.
I mean, what?
short walrus
oh ho ho!