suggestions-discussion

[drowsy plank]

yeah that's the problem!! like i can't even tell! like cosmic shiv is from a yatagarasu and there are three yatas in this server because it's a fuckin yugioh card!!!

just found out what thaumatic chair is

i forgot that was one of the items on the changelogs

[grim tusk]

#suggestions-voting message GS wing limbo

[alpine scarab]

Epic embed fail

[grim tusk]

Thats a message link

Those dont embed

[alpine scarab]

No image, no going back

[drowsy plank]

we covered the GS wing situation pretty thoroughly when they first posted it, i suggested they removed that half of the sugg multiple times but nothing happened

[median geyser]

So this is a fargos thing but I wish there was some more small compatibility things between fargo and calamity. Like when I use a insta house in the sulphuric sea it should use acid wood not palm

I like this idea

So how about I phrase it this way: Just add a more active summoning weapon to the starter bag. Like a stick or a whip etc. just something you can click to do damage instead of waiting around

[crude geode]

@solar dagger pretty sure it already does

[median geyser]

Aight, I posted it

[solar dagger]

Not the effect on the cursor itself, the flame

[drowsy plank]

that's something you'd have to ask fargo's about, cal literally cannot do anything about that

[drowsy plank]

you still need to separate your title and reasoning for it to pass to voting

[median geyser]

I thought so, just wanted to check

[solar dagger]

Can I just edit the one that I already sent?

[hollow shell]

mhm

[drowsy plank]

yeah, you just gotta do it lol

[solar dagger]

Thanks bro

[sand ermine]

🗜️

[grim tusk]

@jolly wadi no meme suggs

@keen ether due to how grab bags like those and crates work I do not think that an ingame solution is possible

[jolly wadi]

what

[grim tusk]

You could try an autoclicker

[jolly wadi]

it's not a meme suggest I want abyss to be a bit more scary

[grim tusk]

Add reasoning then

[jolly wadi]

oh do I have to go in detail

[grim tusk]

And remove the “add jumpscares :)))” part as it makes it look like a meme sugg

[grim tusk]

Yep

[jolly wadi]

ah ok

[drowsy plank]

bags mod for calamity has a fast open feature where it'll pop ten bags at a time when you left click em in your hotbar, so i dont think it'd be impossible to add something like that?

[swift wharf]

make it extractinable

if that's a word

[grim tusk]

Install that mod

[drowsy plank]

well no it. adds a lot of other stuff, and it also. i dont think it adds it to treasures? idr i havent used it in a while

it is possible tho

[cobalt pewter]

source: I accidentally spawned Anahita and Leviathan 4 times when trying to get 25 Shark Fins for research in early HM.

[frosty trellis]

You need 25 fins for research?????

[cobalt pewter]

yea.

[frosty trellis]

That's

Wtf

[cobalt pewter]

vanilla research values are a bit wack

most vanilla boss summon items are still 3 for research

[frosty trellis]

Yikes

[cobalt pewter]

I could compile every single wack research values but I'm too lazy atm

[frosty trellis]

Fair enough

I remember my first pt summoning her in phm and then dying bc no arena

Then made a small little arena in early hm, and then got jump scared and obliterated by Leviathan

[cobalt pewter]

surprisingly I lived for long enough for most of these 4 attempts, thanks to hypermobility and Nychthemeron

but of course I died anyways

[frosty trellis]

Yeah fair

[crude geode]

this is counter productive to what suggs usually want

@hollow shell "it's annoying" sugg

[small timber]

are they that common? since if you are deliberately trying to target farm them reduce drop rate will make them much more annoying to obtain

[frosty trellis]

"Are they that common?"
Everything but Old Lords Oathsword in their argument is yeah

[hollow shell]

@open meadow AutoTrash

[crude geode]

also yeah that mod exists

[small timber]

(also I saw a convo about sulphuric acid cannon)

tldr halley's inferno is actually cracked unless you are using pure glass cannon

[frosty trellis]

Fair enough

I haven't used it myself

Just have used SAC and it just destroyed DoG

[hot zephyr]

just trash the dupes

[small timber]

what if introduce a mechanic where if you have copies in inventory they just drop less likely

since I think that is what voodoo doll do already?

[fossil finch]

Literally every person who has come to this channel to suggest an easier way to obtain x accesory when they see latest

[hot zephyr]

I'm going to put Lead Core in every recipe

[eternal escarp]

recipe undefined

[small timber]

every recipe should involve 1 piece of wood

[fossil finch]

Every recipe should include black lenses

[unborn oriole]

Every recipe should include Dirt blocks

[hot zephyr]

Every recipe will include you

[distant gyro]

your soul is sacrificed

[frosty trellis]

Every recipe should include Iban

[frosty trellis]

I don't think everyone here has a soul tbh

[distant gyro]

then you cannot craft, simple :clueless

[frosty trellis]

I was looking at you for that statement

[distant gyro]

you are looking at yourself through a reflection, by extension

[frosty trellis]

How so?

[proud meteor]

Hey i read your response the other day to what i ssid and yeah i agree its just one of those random thoughts that sound awesome but is more effort then its worth

[small timber]

wait which one?

you mean this?

in that case it is more about how miniboss/boss suggestion are disallowed tbh (even if we completely disregard the effort required to make them), and generally every single boss/miniboss will be seen as large addition of the mod

so even if it is not meant to be something large it will still be criticized by people (just see AEW)

[frosty trellis]

Jared is criticized by people that often?

I don't really see criticism around it

[small timber]

"worm with lunatic cultist mask"

but ya, AEW is supposed to be just an unreasonably hard enemy with super high stat that you are not supposed to beat by normal means, but people assume it is basically post scal/draedon fight (or basically yharim) since it is a "super boss" after scal/draedon

[crude geode]

AEW is rightly criticized for being. boring for a superboss

[small timber]

I think if it is not put onto boss checklist it is completely fine, since it make it obvious that the fight is completely optional, it is basically a punish mechanic for trying to cheese abyss by using rod of discord, but still something you can beat

I see it as an equivalent of dungeon guardian but with actual attacks, and dungeon guardian are not on boss checklist

even the loot is just halibut cannon and nothing else, and you are on shadowspec tier so it is just another weapon choice

[frosty trellis]

And it's much worse than contagion anyways

[stable musk]

❗exclamations go brrrr

[cobalt pewter]

on the topic of aew

I never understood why it spawns with Chaos State in the abyss

was rod really that problematic in the abyss

or was it just really to do the funny Subnautica reference

[frosty trellis]

@tough ingot that's already being worked on

[tough ingot]

ok cool good to know (:

[keen zodiac]

delete the (: that shits cursed

[cobalt heath]

(:

(;

(-:

[frosty trellis]

(: (: (:

[keen zodiac]

i'm calling the fuckin police

[cobalt heath]

try me

bitch

[keen zodiac]

bet

[crude geode]

#suggestions-voting message

[fossil finch]

Later got so trolled because yateveo is donor

[short walrus]

@exotic willow already planned

[exotic willow]

Aight cool

[fossil finch]

God i just imagined
Exhumed Bonefish

That'd be fucked up

[half sage]

exhumed blood clot staff

hypnos summon

[median geyser]

@limber zealot #suggestions-voting message

The 1.4 maces idea has already been posted, and accepted too

[small timber]

(double pinged moment)

[median geyser]

oh L

[small timber]

oh the first time is not a ping at least

[small timber]

but ya

[median geyser]

oops :|

[limber zealot]

ah i didnt notice that

ye les just say i was mad about flails flying around me for a trillion years and i couldnt switch to anything else

[frosty trellis]

True

[hearty ermine]

fixed 👍

[drowsy plank]

i think they were referring specifically to the wulfrum power array blaster thing or whatever the hell it's called

but yeah getting stats on things like the summoner set minions would be nice

[drowsy plank]

why does universal genesis have two recipes but the only difference is one uses 8 cosmolite bars and the other uses nebulous core?? i feel like this is a holdover from when the item was expert exclusive...

[swift wharf]

could be

[drowsy plank]

@helixas

really making me thing i should send that rq to mod mail about either adding some documentation on how/where to contact donors, or revise the method by which suggestions about donor items are handled

[sand ermine]

@twilit herald way too specific

also wrong format

also boss suggestions arent allowed

like, at all

LOL!!!

[ashen warren]

Holy shit Grand Yharon

[fossil finch]

HOLY SHIT

it HAS SCARS

and ARMOR and ATTACKS THAT FOLLOW YOU

[hot zephyr]

@lament wind You can buy it from the Wizard in the Underground Hallow.

[lament wind]

😭

[frail mantle]

i don't think it's ug hallow i think it's just hallow in general

[lament wind]

wow

does that read somewhere in the wiki, because we searched for calamity changes with the rod of discord for a while

And spent like 2 hours total farming it - to no avail 😭

[hot zephyr]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Town_NPCs

[lament wind]

wait i just realized we probably used the wrong damn wiki and it wasn't there

[hot zephyr]

yeah

don't use fandom

it's run by leeches

[lament wind]

my bad, sorry

[hot zephyr]

no worries

blame fandom 💀

[drowsy plank]

so are you gonna delete the suggestion or?

id rather not have "rework maces" pass for the third time

[hollow shell]

It was a month ago but indeed Approved

[keen zodiac]

wtf is that yharon suggestion

[drowsy plank]

bad

lol

[keen zodiac]

future bosses but,,, worse

[lament wind]

is it not obvious

grand yharon duh

[keen zodiac]

calamity players basic reading comprehension challenge 99% fail

pins exist for a reason

[hollow shell]

I'll just delete it

[keen zodiac]

thank you

[lament wind]

it did have some cool ideas like the visual armor thing though

[keen zodiac]

we should rename suggestion posting to suggestion posting read pins

[lament wind]

i bet that wouldn't help at all lol

[keen zodiac]

i know but we could try

[hollow shell]

It's fine for invalid suggestions to appear in #suggestions-posting

That's what the channel is for

[lament wind]

maybe just make a seperate channel for new boss suggestions and then just... disregard it for the vast majority

[hollow shell]

Posting is just a filter for what shows up in Voting

[sleek ore]

@keen ether but how else am I gonna practice butterfly clicking

[lament wind]

i think new bosses and items were specifically excluded because there would just be way too many

something along those lines

[hollow shell]

Yes, yes that is why they are disallowed

[fossil finch]

this interactions are so funny like dude you dont have to know at all but youre talking to the person that made the doc with those rules

[lament wind]

LMAOO

yeah had no clue lol

i thought you were the guy that made the post 😭

[hollow shell]

pff

(Green name + shield means I'm a Moderator)

[lament wind]

Thanks for letting me know!

I'm new here if you couldn't tell

[hollow shell]

[hollow shell]

hm

[terse girder]

tried to avoid being specific on the exacts on that, just the purpose its intended to fufill

[drowsy plank]

old apotheosis was lame as fuck but very viable, new apotheosis is cool as hell and sucks ass

i wish a lot of more dynamic mining options just scaled with ur pickaxe power

[swift bone]

well really the crystyl crusher + any flying mount does that, I get what you mean tho

[drowsy plank]

yeah just gotta wait til dev tier

[swift bone]

be cool if* dreadons chair had a mining mode

[terse girder]

honestly the most obvious thing i thought was combining it and the exo box chair

but again thats not really something i would decide

[fossil finch]

uh

that apotheosis sugg uh

"it feels to similar to metastasis"

1. what
2. what
3. what
4. different class, metastasis has the heart gimmick, and it's a summon
5. what
6. really i feel it should just be a balancing thing (though, it's dev so it won't be balanced anytime soon anyway), there is absolutely no reason to rework it and the reason provided definitely doesn't feel like it's nowhere near enough

[drowsy plank]

people really hate slow weapons unless they're completely unbalanced

[fossil finch]

youre telling me the weapon has a bad damage output, not that the weapon is badly designed and needs to be reworked

[swift bone]

I don't hate slow weapons (The magnet ball upgrades are great) but it just doesn't compare to other similar level

[fossil finch]

then buff its damage

that simple that easy

[swift bone]

fair enough

[drowsy plank]

which would be a balance sugg so you'd ping a tester
but since it's dev tier you should prolly just delete the suggestion

[crude geode]

@worthy lintel “it would be cool” suggestion #suggestions-posting message

[worthy lintel]

:(

@ashen warren as an ultrakill sellout i hate to diss it but your sugg needs better reasoning

also platinum coins are a balancing nightmare

the sevens incident

[drowsy plank]

[worthy lintel]

[drowsy plank]

i love ultrakill and the weapons but at this rate it's gonna have to be added to the donts just like MGR:R

[worthy lintel]

yes, but

ultrakill is based

[crude geode]

Ultra kill fans accept the goddamn weapon

[lofty hedge]

I have no gripes with it personally

On another note, the point that platinum coins would help it be viable post moonlord is already kinda a thing

[ashen warren]

Nah now we want a vanity

[lofty hedge]

About viability, that is

Midas prime targets the weak points from DSO

So you get guaranteed crits for like 4-5k per ricoshot

[drowsy plank]

while i want a lategame upgrade as much as the next guy, but im not gonna pester the devs about it

[lofty hedge]

Likewise

I’m just happy it’s here

[ashen warren]

I mean frankly it'd be a moot point if the midas' coins could reflect non-midas projectiles

I'd be keeping my mouth shut if we could bounce sniper bullets off them

[drowsy plank]

[lofty hedge]

That’s been brought up already, and I’ve head that it would be a coding nightmare

Unless they literally want to turn the game into ultrakill, I don’t think it’s worth the time and effort

[crude geode]

flashback to

[lofty hedge]

Based.

[ashen warren]

tbf going from MGR to Ultrakill would be an acceptable transition

I mean hell

Do Midas Prime shots pierce while bouncing between coins?

[drowsy plank]

no but that is

already in voting

[ashen warren]

Good, good.

[lofty hedge]

I wouldn’t say that calamity is literally mgr

[crude geode]

The community just has an obsession with it

[lofty hedge]

Like, yeah it has some references and adrenaline is definitely inspired by ripper mode, but other than that, it has no similarities

[cobalt pewter]

I think they can definitely cut down on the mgr references

like the hp bar

[crude geode]

the hp bar is so cringe

[cobalt pewter]

I personally just use vanilla boss hp bar now

way more elegant, even if less info

[sand ermine]

i only like the calamity healthbar because its at the corner, and because i actually see the exact health the boss has

[hollow shell]

I like seeing the percentage, easier to see phase changes

[cobalt pewter]

yeah the hp overall just feels

clunky

it's a major improvement on 1.3 where there's no vanilla hp bar

[sand ermine]

if calamity health bar ever gets removed, it would be nice to at least have indicators when phases change on the health bar

[cobalt pewter]

but with 1.4 I just never felt the need to use it really

the infos should definitely be kept, but the design should be more calamity and less mgr

[sand ermine]

yeah

maybe making it themed off the custom calamity title screen?

[cobalt pewter]

they know what they're doing when it comes to visuals really, especially nowadays

[sand ermine]

yeah

[cobalt pewter]

just needs the push to nuke the current hp bar

[drowsy plank]

just make a sugg for it rn

can tie it in with the uhhhhhhh
pillars HP bar

[night jolt]

Shit, the Sirenproof Earmuffs should be made available Pre-Hardmode IMO

[unborn oriole]

Aw shit, here we go again

[night jolt]

Yeah, its a fun challenge to fight Leviathan in PHM, but its never something you should be able to trigger on accident

[unborn oriole]

How could it be crafted anyways

Like

Silk and coral?

Sea remains?

Pearl shards?

[hollow shell]

Sure why not

[unborn oriole]

Maybe f e e s h

[night jolt]

It makes more sense for it to be crafted with Ocean materials than Living shards imo

[unborn oriole]

I mean yeah

[night jolt]

Maybe Coral and Sea Prisms

[unborn oriole]

Silk, sea remains and sea prisms?

[ruby plover]

iirc, the lure is SUPER uncommon in pre-hard

[unborn oriole]

True

It gets like x5 spawn on hm

Also hi Aster

[ruby plover]

herro

[sand ermine]

🤹

[novel belfry]

i don't agree with its removal, it's a nice health bar

[sand ermine]

It should be removed

[novel belfry]

it should not be

it's an option for the player

and if you really want it gone from the Calamity Mod, maybe make it into its own healthbar mod

[sand ermine]

It should because it's a reference to MGRR and I don't like MGRR

[novel belfry]

well that's your opinion

honestly, I have not played MGRR so I can't give a proper judgement

[unborn oriole]

Mgr is overrated

[fossil finch]

mgrr healthbar should be removed because it sucks and it can be replaced with a true calamity patriot fact checked health bar ngl

[crude geode]

healthbar removal =/= redesign

which I think is the better option

byeah mgrr bad

[sand ermine]

True ....

[unborn oriole]

Mgr bad no longer trend grrr

[small timber]

The calamity healthbar is much more efficient imo

[unborn oriole]

True...

[small timber]

#suggestions-voting message the only real criticism I can think of of cal hp bar vs vanilla hp bar (other than it is a reference) is it will be harder to carry out this suggestion

Otherwise cal hp bar tells you everything you need to know in a conscise manner, dont block anything and are also easier to read

[cobalt pewter]

it's a lot less likely for you to accidentally kill ??? in phm unless you're actually that numb to your surroundings

early hm is more likely because your damage is way more than enough to instantly kill ???

also smaller spawnrate in phm

basically keep the spawnrates as they are right now but move the muffs to early hm

like immediately into hm

[drowsy plank]

metal gear rising revengance is a good game tbh but man am i tired of seeing people talk about it here. on the calamity server

@ashen warren that sounds more like a bug or oversight, you ask over in #bugs-read-pins if they know about it yet?

[ashen warren]

i haven't

[drowsy plank]

might be worth a shot

[open meadow]

@ashen warren All Master Mode items are available in Revengeance mode

[drowsy plank]

like i just said

i think it's bugged

[open meadow]

That's not the definition of a bug

a bug is where something should happen but doesn't due to a programming error

this would either be intentional or an oversight

[ashen warren]

the description of the bone helm and witch's broom specifically say that they are expert mode exclusive

and whether or not they drop in classic mode is unknown to me, but it is still not something that should be there regardless

[open meadow]

My bad, I could have sworn it was a Master Mode drop

[open meadow]

Though this is kind of a major issue if you're calling for a change if you don't even know if it's already implemented

[ashen warren]

it's still important that it's pointed out

[terse girder]

this one is probably way less an issue for others, but i see it as a decent QoL change for a very cool summon idea

especially if more summons of its type crop up later

[grave zinc]

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[small timber]

I just realise isnt this got denied before, at least an iteration of it

(and I thought this count as for the funnies suggestion)

in fact cnidrion is not even supposed to spawn in ocean, that was because of a bug

[cobalt pewter]

how much is the bloodfin hotkey thing suggested by now

[ripe owl]

[frosty dagger]

Now, it's been a hot minute since I've played calamity, and on my current playthrough of the bosses you've mentioned I've only faced slime god, but at least in their case simply continuing to run to the side always dodges the slam so long as you don't fly up and into them. I refought this boss a lot to farm for the purified gel and only ever got hit by the slam when I turned around and they were above me. I can't say yet whether aurous/ravager are the same way given how much calamity changes over time, but you have additional tools then as well like faster mobility, a better dash, and the rod of discord.

These by no means seem like cheap hits to me, and therefore a rework like this unessessary

[small timber]

aureus is a completely different fight now, ravager's jump is very different to slime god

pretty much only slime god have a problem with this iirc

for me I want the suggestion less because of cheap shot, but more because it makes the fight more active

currently slime god just "float" then slam down on you, which make no sense, the jump should be executed faster

[frosty dagger]

Hmm, well as it's the only one I actually have evidence to back up for these aren't cheap hits, a faster execution is probably much more clean and visually appealing but that wouldn't change the difficulty of the attack as the delay isn't an issue, just running away dodges it

[small timber]

if the jump is faster it can just aim ahead of you, currently partially the reason it is so easy to dodge is because it is so slow

but ya, it is just my opinion on it

my opinion is slime god should just do the queen slime jump (or something similar to it)

[frosty dagger]

The suggestion: this causes cheap hits
Your response: make it harder it's too easy to dodge

Fair enough though I agree

[small timber]

^, but ya my reasoning do is disconnected from the suggestion

[frosty dagger]

Wow I can't read i completely misread that sentence the first time around as you can tell from my response. That makes a lot more sense

I basically just said no your wrong and then repeated exactly what you said

[small timber]

(though I do think the suggestion saying about ravager jump makes no sense since it is significantly different, and aureus jump too)

ravager's jump is meant to reposition constantly (just probably lack an animation where it is literally meant to fly), aureus jump is meant to get on top of you and slam down, only slime god jump is too slow because of that and cause cheap hit (given the context of the suggestion)

[frosty dagger]

Can't disagree given I haven't fought their current form yet, but clearly I'm too tired for this

[grave zinc]

@woven elm - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[** Replace Cnidrions that spawn in the Ocean with a hydrated variant**]

It has been decided that your suggestion can neither be passed nor denied; either the devs have already made plans that conflict with it, or they have decided to implement an altered version.
You can check out your suggestion again here: #suggestions-voting message

[ripe owl]

[hollow shell]

Cnid has big plans

[frail mantle]

i love water i wish the color blue was real

[short walrus]

Isn't the newest message in #suggestions-voting already planned

[small timber]

oh right they definitely didnt delete it

[frosty trellis]

I'm wondering how tf the remove static refiner one passed

Since it's used for an entire furniture set as well

[crude geode]

bc it could just be crafted at it's precursor?

[small timber]

I think the suggestion is just half-valid

usually furniture have their own crafting station to not clog up crafting menu, just statigel armors and weapons are crafted at the same station as the furnitures

[distant gyro]

same applies for aerialite and stuff

[small timber]

oh right aerialite use sky mill

[distant gyro]

aerialite is crafted at an otherwise furtniture exclusive station

along with some other random crap

[short walrus]

just aerialite-related stuff i think

[crude geode]

Isn’t cloud in a bottle sky mill?

Or am I remembering wrong

[small timber]

balloon stuff are anvil? need to recheck

[short walrus]

anvil, yeah

[small timber]

ok (crafting) bottles are at anvil, (crafting) balloons are at solidifier, combining balloons with bottle are at tinkerer workshop

[short walrus]

funnily enough, skyline wings are not crafted at the skymill

praise be to the raptor seahorse lad

[thorn dock]

Is there a dev that could dm me? I would like to know if it's still possible to donate for specific items and how much I would need to pay for an armor set.

[small timber]

to my knowledge donor items are disabled now iirc

[thorn dock]

Would probably pay more than 99 and less than 999. Just in case. Thx @small timber

[frail mantle]

donor item slots are closed yeah

only new donor items right now are people who already donated for an item before they were closed

[crude geode]

Donor items will be allowed in 2030

[small timber]

if you are not extremely specific I think you can still try just through suggestion?

(if it is a reference item then oh well)

[thorn dock]

Is pretty specific. I m not putting it there.. It won't last

[cloud panther]

i suggested a fantasy talisman upgrade because i LOVE the fantasy talisman

[small timber]

need more good reason as to why specifically fantasy talisman need an upgrade

there are a lot of items that you can say you like it and should be upgraded, to certain degree fantasy talisman are just another weapon that shoot projectile

[cloud panther]

it's a fun and powerful weapon

[thorn dock]

Mind if a send the specific set to you @small timber ? Would love to know what you think

[small timber]

a lot of weapons are fun and powerful, and not all of them will be getting an upgrade

[small timber]

sure you can (though I think if it is specific it will unlikely to go through suggestion tbh, since donor item are closed)

[thorn dock]

Well still might get on a list. Maybe not. Could just rely on the payment. No clue.

[small timber]

in that case isnt it better to just post it here? since if the idea is like really good maybe a dev might implement it?

[thorn dock]

Can't DM.. Can u friend me?

[small timber]

better than sending it to me which tbh will not really change anything

[thorn dock]

Alright

(pic soley for stylistic means, lightsource bonus)

Post polter armor set

craft materials include
-sulphuric scales
-ruinous soul
-tenebris
-fathom swarmer set

70 defense (total via armor)

-1 minion slot
70% increased damage
15% increased crit chance
15% increased movement speed

Full set (only 1 headpiece; 3 piece set) provides:

-gain the sulphuric poisoning defuff
-immunity to sulphuric poisoning from all sources is negated (example: old duke scales)
-while below 20% health, regenerate 6 health per second, even under the effect of a damaging debuff.
-your minions can crit/ share your crit chance.
-can move freely through liquids; provides underwater breathing
-provides a bright source of light (anglerfish-like armor attachment, see pic)

[small timber]

oh is that warhammer? I am not familiar with that

[thorn dock]

Yeah it is 🙃

[small timber]

hmm tbh it will not sound too off if it is a fathom swarmer set upgrade

since fathom swarmer is similarly a water affinity armor that is sulphurous sea related, and also is defensively oriented

[thorn dock]

Yeap thought about exactly the same. fathom swarmer plus the mentioned above craft mats

[small timber]

and other than specificity I think the idea is good tbh (maybe the minion crit part which calamity dont really want it to exist)

[thorn dock]

Sure but that part is kinda important to me. Tried to balance it with the set giving no additional minion slots but - 1

[small timber]

ye maybe, though besides that the 'always sulphuric poisoning' part probably need a better payoff (unless the payoff is intended to be the minion crit), since currently the hp regen is just to offset the constant sulphuric poisoning with not really a lot of reward

but ya I will try to come out with something later to try to get it into suggestion (probably have to be alot specific though)

otherwise it is just whether a dev come here and like your idea

[thorn dock]

Set is supposed to keep your hp at 20%

S poisoning inflicts 3 life per second. The Regen part blocks the downward spiral at 20%

The low hp treshhold can generate lots of bonus damage: yharims insignia, old duke scales(also with debuff bonus on top), necklace of vexation etc

[small timber]

ye, abit risky though, usually those effect proc at 50% already except old duke scale?

but ya

[thorn dock]

Yeap most at 50%

Full duke scales at 25% with debuff on top

Scales match the armors theme perfectly, that's why I would like to stay it at that very low percentage

Maxed old duke scales give 28% damage and 14%crit. Also with yharims insignia on top this set could be a great melee set.

[cobalt pewter]

@cloud panther might need a better reason than the fact that it's powerful
#suggestions-posting message

if I'm going by the same logic I'd suggest a lot of other weapons to have an upgrade

[cloud panther]

i understand

[cobalt pewter]

can't wait until I get my Sticky Spiky Balls upgrade

(exo balls copium)

[thorn dock]

Even tho it's kinda no hit

[small timber]

exolotl time

[cloud panther]

i just want it to get an upgrade because of its hard carry potential

[cobalt pewter]

by essence it's just a sticky rogue weapon that's just more effective than Frosty Flare as the stuff are homing, fire and forget kinda deal

[cloud panther]

i like it

[thorn dock]

Since it sits that low, it could get use of statis void sash or neboulus core

Added fathom swarmer to my text xpc

[quiet kernel]

@deft sun that is a specific item suggestion (a sis) which is not allowed, the idea is good and all but sadly its not allowed

There id a doc in pins that shows all the disallowed suggestions also known as don’t s

[deft sun]

Oh sorry about that, my b

[quiet kernel]

No problem

[cobalt heath]

i feel like nanoblack armor is gonna have something to do with that

[cobalt pewter]

except afaik nanoblack is gonna be shadowspec?

I don't know if ozz ever confirmed on it, but at least logically it should follow Nanoblack Reaper

[short walrus]

if it's an entire set, wouldn't it be better for a non-dev tier?

[cobalt pewter]

that's the neat part

I don't know

though I'm surprised Omega Blue doesn't have an alt for diving

[thorn dock]

Conceptionally this is designed to take advantage of old duke scales, mutated truffle, yharims insignia, with the first 2 ones matching its abyss theme perfectly. The threshold part is important to me. Think it would provide most benefit to melee.

[small timber]

for low hp item effect at least this suggestion already gone through

but ya, for an armor set that effect can be a little to specific (especially considering the armor previously have no connection to any hp threshold effect)

I have to water it down a lot in the suggestion

[drowsy plank]

passed suggs a little sussy today;
-the Calamity and skele merch interaction was clearly a bug
-renaming Wulfrum Pylons is... pointless
-removing Static Refiner is... also pointless
-i sincerely doubt the Cell Phone into Recall thing is gonna pass
-two identical suggs about The Absorber
-cnidrions already had plans

truly one of the weeks ever

[cobalt pewter]

true

[drowsy plank]

also @cloud panther you need to add like, actual reasoning to that suggestion. "why not" is not a reason and im honestly suprised your sugg hasn't been flagged yet

[gilded scroll]

i think thats gonna be something along the lines of some armors specializing into 1-2 classes, imo

[keen drum]

this is big

[keen drum]

its also already a recipe

even if for a ranged weapon

[fossil finch]

Literally what's the point of having an armor if the acc can already do this job just fine

Literally nobody uses fathom swarmer at all and less for abyss exploration considering how you make it, i don't see a point in adding a surely throwaway armor just for this

[small timber]

the accessory only do the breathing part, not the combat part

[fossil finch]

yes because the combat part is done by a normal armor

The acc covers both breathing and mobility

[small timber]

what the suggestion is basically to introduce a specialized water combat armor

[fossil finch]

There's again, no need to add an armor that will be just thrown away afterwards for this

[small timber]

but ya, it is mostly just for this to try to make it happen withotu specificity

[fossil finch]

what does a specialized water combat armor do special though

[small timber]

(thought basically only the fathom swarmer upgrade part kept in)

[fossil finch]

Give you random stats while underwater?

[small timber]

preferably good stats, but ya

[fossil finch]

Then it's balanced to be useless off water like fathom and it's completely useless and will be thrown away as soon as you're done

[small timber]

fathom swarmer surprisingly have good stats above water (notably defensive), but people dont like defense so

[fossil finch]

the idea just misses because it's an armor for an scenario you aren't that long in with a niche that doesn't make any sense to begin with

There's no need to have a water focused combat armor if it's just an armor that gives tou stats while underwater

Also defense doesn't mean anything if the other stats are completely trash when you could just run a normal armor and reforge yourself warding

[small timber]

ok the tldr of the suggestion is really just to try to make the one I posted above happen, but another thing in my opinion is basically this:

I always like the preparation part of playthrough, where you have to get the proper gear to encounter appropriate challenge

in this case in my opinion the ideal abyss is much more scary than all other part of the game, maybe even pre-nerf level

in this case these specific armor are there as the preparation you can do to encounter these challenges; of course you can just fight them with normal gear but they will be much harder

but ya, it is a bit far fetch

[fossil finch]

this already exists with diving suit

This misses greatly because like

[hollow shell]

Should probably acknowledge Abyssal Diving Suit in your sugg
It's primarily an Abyss exploration tool but it has combat benefits (the Plates)
... also it's a fullbody transformation so it like kinda an armor

[fossil finch]

Fathom's summoner focused too

So other classes won't really be liking that much

[small timber]

diving suit dont have the combat stat that is ideal for that, it is basically upgraded arctic diving gear, it only has the breathing part but not the combat part

[fossil finch]

Fathom in general is so absolute stupid

to get the water armor you have to grind the water biome enough for you to never return and you can just kill plantera and get tiki instead

[fossil finch]

But here's the thing, there is no "water combat" part

[small timber]

fathom is a bit weird since I think you can get most part before calclone, and the only thing you need is depth cell

[fossil finch]

Combat is the same in both environments

Giving stats while underwater isn't having a "combat part" it's limiting an armor to water arenas

[small timber]

like I said, I like the preparation aspect of combat, abyss is a suitable out-of-the-way location to put much harder than standard mobs, but ya

the tldr of the suggestion is really just to make the armor happen, and thats it

[fossil finch]

again

[hollow shell]

Indeed the plates are only 15% SDR (ADR?) and only temporary
But, still worth refuting within the sugg I personally think

[small timber]

I will take it off if more people think is is unnecessary

[fossil finch]

This can be done with literally everything else

[small timber]

ye, I dont mind it too much, since the basis of the suggestion is just for that person

[fossil finch]

Instead of an hypothetical fathom rehash that'll become useless the second you step out of abyss (and that forces you to get a class-specific armor)

anyways also fathom isn't really very abyss themed
It's kinda weird

May we remove/rework fathom one day

[small timber]

ya I think the reasoning is not quite strong enough

since for that suggestion to make sense abyss enemy need to be buffed first, but they are just nerfed recently

[gray nebula]

can't u just use any other armor

[fossil finch]

You can that's what I'm saying

But we need useless swarmer 2 fsr

[fossil finch]

See, buffing enemies so people are forced to get an specific armor or have worse dps isn't good game design i think

You talk about combat preparation but that already exists in every aspect of the game and it doesn't require adding a thing for x progression point you'll need to get to prepare for something that isn't even a progression stage or something it's going to a biome to kill things until you get x drop and then never again

[drowsy plank]

honestly one more water focused armor set wouldnt hurt if just to make AEW less Pain without exactly Exo Chair

[small timber]

less "worse dps if you dont have armor", more that "these enemies are so strong that having specific armor for the environment is recommended"

but ya as I say it is far fetch

[crude geode]

Final Abyss Trip is honestly the most lame

on god

You really don’t need anything more than the abyssal diving suit for it considering it’s just whack enemies from 500 ft away while they try desperately to keep up with your movement and fail

[drowsy plank]

yeah

i usually end up mining out most of the third layer so you dont even need to deal with the rest of the effects except for exactly bobbit hook

[fossil finch]

That's fixed by making abyss interesting not with an armo

[fossil finch]

On practice they're really the same thing

[keen drum]

i really dont like water armor

its so rarely used and especially with malice gone there arent many challenges that would require the extra setup to get the bonus stats

[cobalt pewter]

liquid boosts are generally ass yes

[drowsy plank]

that's why they killed 90% of them

[thorn dock]

bonuses arent water/ liquid dependant. Should work very well regulary. The light bonus and the water movement/ water breathing are just on top for beeing handy

[drowsy plank]

yeah we aren't talking about your armor set specifically, i really doubt that would get in through the sugg system and i dont think Patreon items will open like. Ever Again

we were just talking about water sets in general sucking

[thorn dock]

pretty sure there is a link between sunken see and abyss. Old duke also dwells in the abyss and only comes to the surface occasionally. He is way too big (1000kg+) and his metabolism (very fast movements) is too fast for a surface creature.

[drowsy plank]

sunken sea

sunken sea, not sulphurous sea

[thorn dock]

ah yes

[fossil finch]

This would suck balance wise btw just saying

70% damage is kind of uh

Yes i know it's glass but

[thorn dock]

could probably be adjusted I guess

[drowsy plank]

it reminds me of the dude on r/terraria that added a Moon Lord's Heart accessory that increased damage by 200% when under 25% health

i love the terraria reddit :)

[hollow shell]

This is part of the reason why SIS's aren't allowed lol

[fossil finch]

Yea

[thorn dock]

all of the damage, crit, movement and defense part should be adjustable

are the effects attached to the set not working/ unbalanced?

[drowsy plank]

well, the diving suit already give sulph poison immunity, the healing is just crown jewel, minion crit is just. always a problem constantly. and the rest is just stuff. diving suit does already. sides water physics immunity i guess. not many items do that

[fossil finch]

Water physics immunity is given by uh some things already in calamity i think

[drowsy plank]

that's why i said not many

and not none

[thorn dock]

it doesnt give sulph immunity. it also doesnt give crown jewel effect. it gives regen at specific hp%. crown jewel doesnt get you to a desired hp percentage.

[drowsy plank]

like this is just "what if we combined fathom swarmer with the diving suit and also gave it stupid stat buffs"

[thorn dock]

yeas it gives minion crit but also 11 minion slots less than demonshade

[drowsy plank]

"Grants immunity to the sulphurous waters"
yes it does dude

demonshade is getting reworked anyway

plus this isnt demonshade tier???

this would be on par with like

bloodflare and omega blue

honestly why not just add some abyss exploration buffs to omega blue lmao

give it some little advantages in the abyss cause

eidolon wyrms and all

[keen drum]

can you link the sugg

[median geyser]

on average how many votes do you need for a suggestion to pass?

[drowsy plank]

yes

it honestly depends on the week you upload it

sometimes you need 200, sometimes just getting to 100+ can get you through

it's fuckin random tbh

[cobalt heath]

in my exprience

tuesday

is the best day if you want you sug to get in

and friday is the worst

yep

kek

cause that issue happened to me today and i lost my mind

[fossil finch]

It's random yes as random as human behavior is

People should read pins

[small timber]

@cobalt heath #suggestions-voting message if I dont misunderstood this suggestion is exactly the same as the one you are asking right?

Oh ok nevermind I misread it, it is already pass thr suggestion batch

[median geyser]

I uploaded it thursday I think, that's probably not good odds. I hope I get in

[chilly rivet]

About that tho.

You know.. Hellwing staff has one weakness, it is limited to horizontal attacks. They can't attack above or below you, plenty of bosses can actually out-manuever out of the hellwing staff's reach. Of course, some bosses casually stand in a horizontal distance from you (Like WoF), which makes it easier, but some others like being above you or all around you (Cryogen for instance) which makes hits be harder with thy weapon and requires you to move yourself in the correct position, which can be really distracting.

It makes it quite situational, I do agree tho some stuff about it needs a little tweaking (Like how ridiculously cheap it is to craft), but the limitation of attacking horizontally is what inhibits it from being too op. That's what I think about it tho.

If I could change it a little bit, I would add a third ingredient to it's crafting recipe, like Demonic Bone Ash or fireblossom or anything related to underworld at that given part of the playthrough.

There are plenty of ways of balancing this weapon I'm thinking about but I probably won't mention cuz they sound quite silly.

[pure verge]

That's... literally what the mod does.

kk

Am I allowed to send Steam Workshop links here?

[chilly rivet]

yk me as a guy that plays calamity alot, I can remember at what percentage the bosses change phase. But that idea sounds very nice for whoever is still quite new to the mod.

I support it.

[unborn oriole]

Normally phase changes occur at around 70-40% HP

[hollow shell]

You could link it in your sugg yeah

[pure verge]

Ok I'll do that

[chilly rivet]

It can vary alooot from boss and difficulty.

[unborn oriole]

Yeah

Then there's cryogen

[chilly rivet]

Exo mechs

[unborn oriole]

(i hate that mf)

[chilly rivet]

Those two have alotta phases

[unborn oriole]

Yharon

[chilly rivet]

Yharon has 2 phases

[unborn oriole]

Oh right, the other things are AI changes

[pure verge]

And like 10 subphases

[unborn oriole]

Yeah that

[chilly rivet]

gotcha

[hollow ridge]

Does anyone think the lions heart is criminaly undercharged

Like a plat and 40 gold is nothing at that stage

Compared to RoD being 20 plat

[pure verge]

post some about that in #suggestions-posting

[hollow ridge]

Ok

[pure verge]

also RoD is an insanely rare drop

meanwhile you can only get Lionheart by buying it

[frosty trellis]

Horizonal and below you, but yes.
The problem with your argument is that there isn't a boss you can't abuse that shit on
It's a post evils weapon, so let's look at that.

Hive mind: Literally just eats phase 1, and the circle into a dash can be hit and hit HARD. There is like, one attack and that's the teleport into shade rain that is harder to hit with Hellwing but it's doable, and with the sheer power of Hellwing it's not gonna do it more than once or twice

Prefs: Shreds the perforators and the hive literally chases you horizontally when the prefs are alive, so can just get way too much damage in

Queen bee: Dashes at you, easy damage

Skeleton: Circle it and punish it when it does the head spin and it won't last long

Deerclops: Always below you, free

Slime God: Both slimes tend to be around your height level anyways, so easy to hit then

WoF: literally free

Early Hardmode (Although at this point you have flarefrost bolt and posiedon so shouldn't use it but you brought it up in your argument)

Cryogen: Dashes at you a lot, charges at you, can get free hits easily

Twins: They are at player level 70% of the time

S.prime: Same with normal skeleton

Destroyer: Below you at all times

Aquatic Scourge: Can easily make it go below you or keep at it's level or just go to the side of it.

Brimstone Elemental: She is almost always at player level or below you

I fail to see your argument, as I've used Hellwing Staff a lot and don't see it's downside as that much of a detriment

[chilly rivet]

Maybe it's cuz I've been recently playing infernum too much.

[frosty trellis]

Possibly

I wasn't going to play infernium until it's completed

But this is from my experience as mage on rev and death

[chilly rivet]

On rev and death this staff slaps everything ye.

on infernum it is extremely situational tho so there is that.

But that aside, a harder crafting recipe can make it doable.

Or making it be obtainable more forward in the playthrough, like post-skeletron

[frosty trellis]

And the mod is balanced around Expert-Death and is singlehandedly the best mage weapon until fridgeflare bolt and posiedon

[drowsy plank]

why not ping a tester and get some actual kill times on the thing lmao

who does mage again

[frosty trellis]

No clue

[drowsy plank]

oh right no one

uhhhhh

[chilly rivet]

I can do it for ya if you want idk.

Pick any boss and I'll do it I'm bored rn lol.

[fossil finch]

it's a weapon, not rod

remove lionheart who ever uses it

[frosty trellis]

Needs to be a ✨ tester approved setup ✨

[drowsy plank]

i mean i could test it too, but this is about official testing from the actual team

[keen zodiac]

the mod is balanced around rev 💀

[frosty trellis]

I meant rev

Mb

[drowsy plank]

also yes lionheart stinks :)

[chilly rivet]

My tester approved setup is the best gear you can get before that boss I guess.

or anything like that but without the funnier stuff.

[drowsy plank]

yeah no that's not how this works, it's a lot more rigorous, which is why we ping the test team lmao

im just turnig my pc on to check who's online

[eternal escarp]

was a tester pinged yet

[drowsy plank]

nope

[eternal escarp]

so i am here

[drowsy plank]

can you test hellwing staff

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

[eternal escarp]

of course!

[chilly rivet]

Awesome

[frosty trellis]

Hellwing staff on every phm boss post evils

[drowsy plank]

not really sure on what dude says it's viable on like everything so just pick something

[frosty trellis]

Bc it shreds

[chilly rivet]

Do any boss between skeletron and mechs, ur choice.

[frosty trellis]

It's viable for cryogen, queen Slime, twins and sprime easily

[chilly rivet]

Imma actually replay it myself aswell let me see how it goes.

[eternal escarp]

why would i do mechs??

its a post evil 1 weapon lmfao

[frosty trellis]

It's far from the best option

But it's still good against them

[eternal escarp]

i doubt its viable at that point
right

[chilly rivet]

Yeah but MPG claims that hellwing staff shreds twins

[frosty trellis]

Doesn't shred twins

But preforms better than it should

I just use it on twins if I do twins first because Hellwing can easily hit them with very little issue for the most part

Since posiedon is a little slow and I can't aim fridgeflash

Easy to use, gets the job done in a semi reasonable amount of time

[eternal escarp]

I will continue this later, but for now this test shows something

avg KT should be 2:00~

worms 1 and 2 didnt exist

weapon does indeed seem pretty strong

[hollow shell]

Oh yeah Hellwing staff
Crazy fuckin strong when I used it in 1.5

[eternal escarp]

ill get deeper to balancing it soon enough

[hollow shell]

plus the full screen range and tile piercing, and free light, made it my go-to

[eternal escarp]

the only downside is the way you need to use it

which feels more like an oversight than intended

[hollow shell]

It has weird angle shit goin on but yeah not nearly enough to offset the power/utility

It's still pretty much just death-on-cursor

[chilly rivet]

I tried using this setup + hellwing staff and I managed to reach 40% health on both twins before they obliterated me and my pre-hardmode gear.

For me those are surprising outcomes. I might agree with tlord on that one.

[small mortar]

i legit almost beat twins with subpar accessories, statigel armor, no preparation, and no arena using hellwing staff. hellwing staff is beyond busted

[eternal escarp]

discord thanks for dying

wanted to say

either way you dont need a sugg to ask for a nerf, me seeing this works just as well

[wicked imp]

Why is Daedolous armor made you invincible, cause daedoloud was invincible untill he agve up invincibility?

[hollow shell]

What

[fossil finch]

what

[chilly rivet]

wot

[hollow shell]

I'm pretty sure that's more for the theme of like, being reflective, stuff bouncing off of you
and has no lore connection

if you're talking about the reflect

[chilly rivet]

I thought reflect made the projectiles do half the damage to the player. Not completely annihilate it.

also 90 sec cooldown

[frail mantle]

wait for mod applications and we might

[fossil finch]

leon don't give them hope you know full well

[frail mantle]

i will give everyone a fair chance

they can apply if they want

i give no guarantee that they'll be accepted but i won't deny it as a possibility

[inner anvil]

Can I be a mod, Leon?

Please, please, please?

[drowsy plank]

can i not be a mod :)

[hollow shell]

@inland elbow You can apply for Mod Applications when they open up again. They are not currently open.
(also you'd submit it through the Staff Mail, not the suggestion channels)

[frail mantle]

hey dom can i get beta tester gif

[inner anvil]

I'm already a beta tester though!

I need more! To grow my ego!

[inland elbow]

ty

[median geyser]

I’m surprised by how many people vote on ideas, I thought most people would be lazy :/

[hollow shell]

heh

[gray nebula]

when the progression game progresses

[small mortar]

i'm a dumbass

[hollow shell]

Does this count as a balance suggestion actually?

ah

[small mortar]

i forgot about the no balance suggestions

[hollow shell]

I suppose it would if you're talking about making it comparable to other options on the same tier

[trail dagger]

Is there any way to find out the reason for declining this suggestion?

[hollow shell]

@inner anvil @eternal escarp Wulfrum Screwdriver versus other pre-boss melee options, how is it?
If it's underpowered, is it intentionally that way?

[hollow shell]

uhh lemme see if I can find out

what was said

[eternal escarp]

while i was testing, it gained normal killtimes when used well with the screw

i am not sure how it would compare, though

it is quite easier to get your hands on it nowadays so depending on what it may compare to, it should be fine

[inner anvil]

Uh, give me a moment, I'm in the middle of something important.

[hollow shell]

It seems like devs were just disturbed by the idea of RTN potentially becoming post-CalClone
even though it would involve beating a Reaper Shark at that tier, and therefore be a reward
I can only assume the reasoning was that Reaper Sharks are easier to play around than full fledged bosses

Frankly there wasn't too much discussion as they focused more on the natural boss spawns sugg at the time

this'n

[fossil finch]

So cool

[drowsy plank]

wish that arcane rework got through

a shame

it wasnt even conflict rejected im p sure it was just normal rejected which i found weird because arcane still sucks lmao

[small mortar]

my main issue with the screwdriver is that, for a true melee weapon with 10 damage, it's way too risky to use. it's very short ranged and leaves you much too vulnerable. of course the screws can offset this problem a bit but you need to play risky to even get the screws.

[short citrus]

I mean it is a short sword

[small mortar]

yeah, but the rewards of using it do not outweigh the risks

[eternal escarp]

to be fair, you use it on KS and DS, both i found not too hard to stab with the screwdriver

may just be me, though

mana potions dont meed to be buffed to make arcane more useful, that feels sideways

if you buff mana potions then you wont need higher max mans

[fossil finch]

on the other side, mana potions are bad because sickness, not because they regen little

[drowsy plank]

i could imagine screwdriver could be a lil bigger but it's supposed to be relatively weaker than the rest of the avaliable options, like blunderbuss, it's not my first choice for a gun but it's not bad

[lofty hedge]

Yeah, Wulfrum gear is super easy to get but not the best of its tier

That is the intent

[inner anvil]

Ok, I can get to it now.
I finished what I had to do.

[fossil finch]

this suggestion number three hundred

[inner anvil]

@rocky saddle It's been sprited already, tMod doesn't have support to add them though.

[rocky saddle]

O my bad

Should I remove it?

[inner anvil]

Yes.

When tMod adds support for those new bars, we'll add them.

We just kinda' can't right now lmao.

[rocky saddle]

I thought it works like just changing some texture file or something like that

[inner anvil]

@hollow shell Yeah, it might be too weak.

1 minute in and hasn't gone past half HP.

And I don't know if it's intentional.

But even if it was I don't accept this lmao.

[fossil finch]

call the blast though

because like

[inner anvil]

Blast is asleep.

[fossil finch]

well blast thinks its fine

maybe your just using the weapon wrong,..,

[inner anvil]

Thanks for the random "Skill Issue".

But in my opinion I still don't accept this.

[hollow shell]

aighty

Buff that pokey boy

[inner anvil]

Hmm, 16 DMG gives like 1:30-ish.

I can accept that.

And if you're very aggresive it gives like 1 minute.

Early weapon, yeah, perfect.

[drowsy plank]

"increase the position"

@vocal gust it isn't impossible to dodge them, ive fought him several times, so i know that. what i do agree with is that there should be more time between the telegraph and the attack, because the way it is right now just destroys the pace of the fight so much

i feel like talking about how it disrupts the fight would be better than talking about how hard the laser walls are, because in all honesty, they aren't hard. it's specifically the fact they're attached to DoG, and boss that emphasizes heavy use of your movement options, and then punishes you for moving too fast, is the real issue

like if they were on provi or something then like

whatever

[frosty trellis]

The laser walls can be dodged with very fast movement and one use of RoD, but it isn't consistent

So yeah

[drowsy plank]

might as well have not mentioned it, plus it clearly isnt the intended method of dealing with them

[frosty trellis]

True

Definitely not intended

RoD isn't supposed to be necessary for any fight, but god dammit DoG really contradicts rhat

[drowsy plank]

it'd be like if i offered my asphault highway solution to beating DoG. it sucks ass and is boring as hell and is kind of inconsistent, but you can beat him. but you learn nothing about the fight this way

[frosty trellis]

RoD and then Brimrose the other wall is the other way to do it and even then it's still not consistent

[drowsy plank]

yeah

[frosty trellis]

Trying to dodge both walls at the same time is extremely inconsistent and deadly

[drowsy plank]

brimrose both and dont fuck up the first one is the only 100% consistent way and that's with knowing they're coming

[frosty trellis]

Since the telegraph on rev starts in the middle of the previous laser phase

Which makes things hell

[drowsy plank]

fun!

[fossil finch]

you can tap flight

[frosty trellis]

You can

[fossil finch]

remember flight time is infinite during laser walls

[frosty trellis]

Brimrose offers more control

[drowsy plank]

yeah i mean ive done that too

[frosty trellis]

That's the only reason the movement option with RoD works rly

[drowsy plank]

doesnt mean it doesnt ruin the fight's pacing or suck ass

[frosty trellis]

^

It's the cause of 90% of my deaths to DoG

Other 10% is head

[fossil finch]

idk im too exhausted of boss discussions to be on this convo

[drowsy plank]

lol

[frosty trellis]

Fair enough

DoG's laser walls need a complete overhaul

Or just be removed and replaced by something better

Yharon has telefrag issues

Prof guardians needs to not be a circle simulator and actually interesting

And boc needs a full overhaul

There, discussion ended

[hollow shell]

I'm shocked that Steampunker suggestion isn't already in-game somewhere somehow

[crude geode]

I disagree heavily with the sugg but also graveyard threw any arguments about evil world exclusivity out the window so like it’s valid

Doesn’t it still need to be formatted correctly

[frosty trellis]

So what you're saying is that it's getting implemented?

[hollow shell]

nnnnnno, that's not what I'm saying

[frosty trellis]

Lmaoooo

It was a joke

[cobalt pewter]

I believe means to easily expand opposite evil biomes shouldn't exist

let them cope with seeds

[frosty trellis]

Fair enough

[cobalt pewter]

but some loots being interchangeable in graveyard should be alright

this also means that evil islands should cease to exist and corruption / crimson biome chest loots should be interchangeable

[hollow shell]

heh

Amusing oversight

"You are nothing to me but just another target"

[iron junco]

Wasn't sure if I should have posted it in #bugs-read-pins , but it's not really a bug

[frosty trellis]

LMAO

[frosty trellis]

But it is a bug, just look at some of the critters it targets

[iron junco]

I don't think its a bug, I just used fireflies for the picture, and the target covers their sprite sometimes

[frosty trellis]

You missed the pun but oke

[iron junco]

oh im stupid

[keen zodiac]

can someone 🗜️ actualknight's suggestion? it's not formatted properly

[hollow shell]

That reaction is automatic when the bot detects a problem

The suggestion actually is formatted properly

[fossil finch]

Oh you sweet summer child

@gleaming spade already happening

[gleaming spade]

oh pog

[fossil finch]

Literally next armor addition iban has planned

[gleaming spade]

ah I see. yeah I haven't been very up to date with dev's twitter and stuff so I wasn't aware

[gleaming spade]

has anything about it been shown?

[fossil finch]

The sprite

[cobalt pewter]

GOD

[median geyser]

Ok so quick pitch for a idea: What if there was some in game way to check which NPC's liked which biomes without manually moving each npc?

[sleek turret]

Doesn't bestiary alredy show Town NPCs biome tendencies?

[proud quest]

can they add a recipe for magic conch

cleared my entire desert and i havent found a single one

[crude geode]

there's already a post in voting regarding that

[proud quest]

k

[median geyser]

oh, bestiary is disabled as far as I know in calamity, at the very least it isn't working in my world

so i wouldn't know

[crude geode]

it does

[proud quest]

if they dont add magic conch recipe my life is over

i literally cant fast travel anymore cuz im so unlucky that i havent gotten a single one in my entire desert

[median geyser]

well, it's not as useful but what about that same idea but for which npc's like which other npc's?

[swift wharf]

calamity players when they can't teleport around the word effortless

[cobalt pewter]

at that point just go to wiki no? I doubt they wanted to clutter that much info

[median geyser]

yeah i guess your right, i've just always been annoyed how much terraria relies on the wiki

[drowsy plank]

you know what actually sucks

trying to figure out calamity modded biome housing

[cobalt pewter]

I think the biome display on bestiary is sufficient if you wanna improve happiness a good few, but if you wanna minmax happiness, the game isn't obligated to give out everything

and it shouldn't too

[swift wharf]

I don't think the game should tell you why cirrus likes the zoologist and the stylist

I'll tell ya that much

[median geyser]

💀

[cobalt pewter]

there's a balance between "players should know a good amount of the game without wiki" and "players shouldn't try to seek out info their own way in order to optimize the game"

[swift wharf]

[proud quest]

sorry i dont like spending 5 minutes trying to walk across the world when i can just get there in seconds my bad bro

fucking hell

[swift wharf]

you problem

• ocean pylon

[proud quest]

I am pre boss

[swift wharf]

Yes

The like

time where you're supposed to explore the world

god

you have time to search an entire desert but not get an ocean pylon

huh

[proud quest]

ive already explored the surface

[median geyser]

I hate to be that guy, but just make another world if you really can't find it

that's what i do when i can't find anything

[swift wharf]

You can fish for it too

If you really need it

[median geyser]

no

jk you can if you need

[swift wharf]

Ocean pylon it is

[proud quest]

wait

coin of deceit is worthless with wulfrum knives

tf

[unborn oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-anime-yes-yes-yes-yeah-its-a-yes-gif-17161748

[small timber]

@ashen warren wrong channel for that, this channel ( #suggestions-discussion ) is use for discussion purpose

[hollow shell]

Yes, discuss suggestions in this channel

Also wow has it been 1 month already? Time flies

[drowsy plank]

@reef fern please dont respond in there

[hollow shell]

Wrong ping.

[drowsy plank]

no i saw them typing

[hollow shell]

ah ok

[drowsy plank]

i think they were about to respond to it, just trying to be preemptive lol

[reef fern]

what is happening

[drowsy plank]

someone responded to ur sugg in the wrong channel

[reef fern]

gotcha

[drowsy plank]

i was worried u were gonna do the same which would only make it worse

[ashen warren]

oh fuck off

lmfao

[hollow shell]

[ashen warren]

i havent done anything wrong though so im fine

[ashen warren]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Beds

Beds are furniture items which allow the player to set a new spawn point, or to sleep, which makes time pass 5 times faster

[reef fern]

I specifically mentioned avoiding having to wait for biome spread in my post

[ashen warren]

having it go 5x faster isnt good enough for you?

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Enchanted_Sundial

[reef fern]

honestly most of the time I play with biome spread turned off, because it's a hassle dealing with the jungle in early hardmode and making 5-block-wide gaps everywhere makes the world look ugly

[small timber]

I think the problem is the current evil you have (eg: crimson in crimson world) will also spread?

[reef fern]

exactly that, yeah

[small timber]

and dryad already have this function iirc, just steampunker dont have it

[reef fern]

dryad only sells the seeds

[ashen warren]

put hollow on your spawn

[small timber]

ye, what I mean is steampunker should do the same

[ashen warren]

npcs wont move out

[reef fern]

why though?

what do you mean

[ashen warren]

npcs wont move out of the hollow

or just put hollow around your jungle

[reef fern]

the hallow also spreads, does it not?

[ashen warren]

nothings wrong with the hallow though?

[reef fern]

it can also destroy the jungle

[hollow shell]

Hallow actually cannot do that

[ashen warren]

??

what the fuck

@hollow shell do you see why i hate people

[hollow shell]

Calm down, he got a singular fact wrong

[ashen warren]

The Hallow, unlike Crimson and Corruption, cannot spread through mud areas such as found in Jungles or Glowing Mushroom biomes.

[reef fern]

that's a bit rude of you, no?

I'm trying my best here

[ashen warren]

i dont really care

just place hallow around the places u want to keep safe

crimson or corruption wont do shit then

[reef fern]

that's just even more work that still requires me to wait for biome spread, and then I'd have to undo it later

[ashen warren]

why would you have to undo it

[reef fern]

I don't really like the hallow and I'd rather not have too much of it

[ashen warren]

i mean its either that or a fucked up jungle

hallow has 0 threat

[drowsy plank]

you have to wait for the second evil to spread to get something you want i guess, and then you gotta remove the evil and the hallow. but ecto recipes exist so idk lmfao

[ashen warren]

while corruption and crimson actually ruins stuff

[small timber]

post-ML hallow also have profaned enemies spawning which are ultra annoying iirc

[reef fern]

that's why I made my suggestion to have the opposite evil solution. simplifies the process a lot

[small timber]

so generally you just want biomes to be contained, and not everyone will dig gigantic hole to stop biome spread

[reef fern]

what do you mean by ecto recipes?

[small timber]

ectomist (graveyard)

[reef fern]

oh yeah

[ashen warren]

just

kill plantera

before it gets to jungle

[drowsy plank]

all the crimson and corruption drops are transmutable in graveyard biomes lmao

[small timber]

plantera is still a big step into HM

[ashen warren]

plantera slows evil spread down

[reef fern]

being able to convert one type of solution into another in ecto mist would also be a really good idea

[small timber]

in fact you dont really need opposite evil stuff after plantera

[drowsy plank]

i keep forgetting plant has that weird evil slowing effect lmfao

[small timber]

and the suggestion is also based on something that already exist in the game (aka dryad selling opposite evil seeds in graveyard blood moon)

[drowsy plank]

cause of course she would

[reef fern]

it seems I have made an ally. I appreciate the support

[hollow shell]

The suggestion is perfectly fine

You could include more reasoning about how basically everything else is transmutable at Ecto Mist

[ashen warren]

Instavator

[hollow shell]

And you have the ability to buy the opposite seeds, so

Solutions not being part of that just seems like an inconsistency

[small timber]

not part of calamity

[ashen warren]

so

just download fargos

use it for like 60 seconds

if u dont like it remove it

and sleep in a bed

[reef fern]

it's clear that you don't like my idea. you don't have to keep arguing your point

[hollow shell]

Nicole you're doing the thing again

[ashen warren]

what thing

[hollow shell]

The thing that got you muted, numbnuts

[ashen warren]

thats not helpful is it

[small timber]

most suggestion are based on not having to rely on external mods to solve the problem

calamity added potion selling npc exactly for that, eventhough alchemistnpc already exist

[ashen warren]

i was muted because someone made a deformed triangle and had a go at me for having an opinion

[small timber]

unconsumable boss summons too, etc etc

[cobalt pewter]

lemme grab my popcorn rq

[hollow shell]

byeah ActualKnight just add some more onto your reasoning based on what was said here

Strengthen the suggestion

[ashen warren]

A BED

[cobalt pewter]

I think simplifying on potion recipes would help with potion more than relying on Terraria's jackass economy

[hollow shell]

Yes he could add a direct counterargument to the bed

[cobalt pewter]

like increasing the crafting yield of potions

[reef fern]

for the record, I'm a woman

[small timber]

ye dont particularly like the potion selling npc either, though it is said to be temporary solution only so

[ashen warren]

who

actually who

the fuck does your gender have to do with this

[cobalt pewter]

fair enough then, if most potions have higher amounts of bottled water and resulting potions in the recipe, they'd feel better to craft

[ashen warren]

im going sleep i cba

[reef fern]

people have said "he" a couple times so I just thought I'd clear that up

[cobalt pewter]

I think Calcium Potion already makes multiple potions in a single craft?

or is it just the blood orb recipe?

[hollow shell]

I see

[ashen warren]

@hollow shell gn xx

[small timber]

I think it is just people hate fishing, since the herb part is not that bad as long as you explored space planetoid

[reef fern]

who hates fishing?

[small timber]

many people

[hollow shell]

A lot of people do not like doing it

[reef fern]

is that really a thing?