#suggestions-discussion

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keen drum
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i havent tried boss rush yet lol

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after final boss i just start a new world

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exo mechs i think needs some work, if i dont melt i just go into info overload and it becomes hard to dodge everything on the 3 mech stage

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but i could just be bad lol

drowsy plank
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not sure if this would be too close to a resprite sugg but in a convo a while back i remember someone talking about how bloody edge existing made no sense, because night's edge isn't a corruption weapon, but a hell tier weapon like dark lance. this got me thinking about how to fix bloody edge, and i realized a simple thematic solution while allowing the weapon to continue to exist is to make it an oathsword instead. not only are they also red and black, but they're hell themed, calamity added (since bedge is a calamity variant to an existing weapon, much the way the oathswords are a counterpart to typical hell weapons), and it honestly would make way more sense to make it an actual night edge variant instead of this weird crimson variant despite not thematically countering what nedge is

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@valid shoal if it was a bug, #bugs-read-pins, but no, that is intentionally how it works.

half sage
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@valid shoal you can repair the drive using the wulfrum controller summon

drowsy plank
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you will need to reformat your sugg for it to pass anyway

half sage
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it not regenerating is intended

hollow shell
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"Night's" is basically a sub-theme of Corruption

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It's purple
It fits the name scheme of items like "Light's Bane" and "Waraxe of the Night"

hot zephyr
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night's edge is literally built out of a corruption item, with the crimson alt recipe added later

hollow shell
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True NE has a bright green proj

hot zephyr
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it's totally corruption themed

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"but Re-Logic said"
boohoo, they spat out a copout answer on why there's no vanilla alt to night's edge

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in Calamity, Night's Edge is a corruption weapon

fossil finch
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it was made along demon scythe and funny spear honestly

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well calamity sucks

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that easy iirc

hollow shell
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I have had ideas for how to make Bloody Edge fit more alongside Night's Edge, with its own distinct theme
and it involved Terra Edge and Terratomere

fossil finch
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also i think the green isn't meant to represent cursed flames as much (which also reminds me it does not inflict cursed flames for some forsaken reason and this discussion would not be happening if it did

hot zephyr
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state mandated flask usage

hollow shell
fossil finch
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either way blood edge still sucks because what's the point of it existing if you can get both at the same time anyways

fossil finch
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this is why we need to bring back evil exclusives

keen drum
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actually nvm we're like 2 years post 1.4 and still getting updates

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so

fossil finch
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it is not

keen drum
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probably

sand ermine
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pretty sure the 1.5 thing is a joke

hollow shell
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Whatever update Labor Of Love will be labelled as

sand ermine
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because of how much 1.4.4 is adding

fossil finch
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red is really the only one talking about 1.4.4 like it is 1.5

keen drum
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makes sense

fossil finch
hollow shell
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mmmmm perhaps, perhaps

keen drum
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yeah rn evil doesnt impact much after the middle of phm

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personally i dont mind that

hot zephyr
fossil finch
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the graveyard evil biome recipes can go fuck themselves

hot zephyr
keen drum
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i really dislike (vanilla) graveyard implementation

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"kill yourself 7 times to craft this"

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or the calamity implementation

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"kill yourself 20 times to craft this"

fossil finch
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the main problem is making star band corruption only ngl

keen drum
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i honestly think the game would have been cooler if designed around both evils being present in a world

hot zephyr
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terraria should've just made the world generate both evils on large to begin with

keen drum
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yeah

hot zephyr
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instead of three identical corruption biomes per world

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so good!

sand ermine
hot zephyr
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evil exclusives aren't as interesting as people say
it places such a small role in the game that it barely improves replayability and just serves to be annoying when you want a specific item

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especially in vanilla when crimson is just better than corruption in basically every way

drowsy plank
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calamity is funny in that corruption is better in the late game due to buffing the mana flower and scope upgrades when used with putrid scent, and cursed flames reducing DR by 20%

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so if you dont make use of the evil island ur always gonna be missing out on something

fossil finch
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Then still kill bloody edge tbh

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Because then it's just redundant to have two of the same weapons at the same tier

crude geode
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Isn’t this more of a problem of bloody edge not being distinct at all from night’s edge aside from some lifesteal

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Anyways this isn’t even a sugg so I should prolly just drop it

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@valid shoal just to let you know, someone basically already posted your sugg, just vote on that one and delete yours

#suggestions-voting message

drowsy plank
crude geode
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Indeed

crude geode
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Thx

lilac fulcrum
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@simple fern they are already in the game

simple fern
ruby plover
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another day, another celestial onion suggestion

north oracle
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hey at least this one has the death 9th accessory slot bit which is somewhat unique... still not happening tho lmao

sand ermine
hot zephyr
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💀

sand ermine
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its almost like it would be unbalanced

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and they should just use wingslot or something

gray nebula
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shpc is a legendary item so

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lol

hot zephyr
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start digging

crude geode
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me when I have to actually WORK for my legendaries instead of just farming bosses 500 times

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@hot zephyr herring staff balance

sand ermine
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@velvet lynx what mode did you do it on?

velvet lynx
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death mode

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you can see it on the recording

sand ermine
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expert death>

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?

velvet lynx
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yes

sand ermine
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k

velvet lynx
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i didnt knew you can enable death mode in other diffs other than expert

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thats new

swift wharf
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you can

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in master

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too

frosty trellis
# gray nebula shpc is a legendary item so

See, I think what a lot of people miss is that even with a pickaxe axe, mining pots and accessories, that finding them is still a pain. Me and a friend of mine have spent literally several hours searching for arsenal labs, and while we did find a few, only 2 of them actually contained sus scap, so we did work for it, it just didn't end up working out and trying to find all of the arsenal labs is something that dries out the patience of many for a non-guarenteed chance of even getting sus scrap in the first place. Having a way to find the labs easier would streamline the process so people can actually get the SHPC without feeling like they have to cheat it in.

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I have yet to legitimately obtain the SHPC specifically because my patience wears thin after 5 hours of finding only 1-2 sus scrap

small timber
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If the normal lab spawn rate is actually reasonable then it is finr yeah

frosty trellis
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But it is far from

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And no way to easily find them makes it even worse

small timber
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The current situation is I create a new world, spawn full map vision and I have trouble finding more than 3 normal labs most of the time, and the spawn rate of scrap is not 100% on top of that

frosty trellis
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I just cheat the scrap in

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If I want to use the SHPC

small timber
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Which means most of the time you cant get enough scrap in a single world, and there is no way else tp get them

frosty trellis
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It's not worth me wasting 10+ hours to find them

velvet lynx
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@hollow shell any reason or feedback on why it got warned the suggestion

bright crag
frosty trellis
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Balance suggestions are a ping testers thing

bright crag
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Just go to the layer you find the labs and dig a bunch

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In one morning, I found like 10 labs

frosty trellis
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You say it's so easy

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That's one data point

small timber
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Did the newest patch (2.0.1) increased lab spawn rate?

frosty trellis
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I've played mage more than once, and every time I just cheat the scrap in after 5 hours of searching because I can't

bright crag
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It's not "easy", but it's a very reasonable thing

small timber
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Because before that it was abyssmal

bright crag
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Jungle, for example, is filled with labs

frosty trellis
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Would agree if I ever found more than 3

velvet lynx
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nowhere in the rules it says i cant suggest balance changes

frosty trellis
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In the jungle

hollow shell
frosty trellis
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Should change the doc then rover

hollow shell
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Sorry, the rules pin is outdated as fuck

velvet lynx
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ok.

hollow shell
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The Dont's Doc is the real rules

fossil finch
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Update the sugg history pin,.,

frosty trellis
fossil finch
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I mean that's as anecdotal as him saying he found 10 is

bright crag
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For one, it's a legendary
And in that case... my experience was not really the same as yours

small timber
frosty trellis
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That's happened more than once to me neko

fossil finch
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I got shpc in my mage playthrough, it didn't take more than 30 minutes
I had also found labs prior

bright crag
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I found 2 scrap in just like 3 hours, and keep in mind it was a mp world so a lot of labs were already looted

velvet lynx
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its kind of a waste of time when it is clearly already tested with video proof, the damn summon deals 30k damage a second at its peak, theres nothing to "test"

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but whatever

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@hot zephyr

fossil finch
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The video isn't done with the control balancing uses

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Don't be unnecessarily agressive i think

frosty trellis
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The thing is, is that you can find a bunch of labs, but
A: They aren't as easy to find as you claim sometimes
B: On large worlds (which is what calamity defaults too) it's a 33% to get a sus scrap, meaning you can find all the labs in the world and get completely fucked

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That's more often than not that you aren't getting scrap

small timber
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The main thing is you have to wait 2 weeks for balance suggestion to get through, while pinging testers is instant

hollow shell
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In fact lemme just unpin the sugg rules right now
All of the points on it are redundant with Dont's

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There, now the doc is at the top

hot zephyr
fossil finch
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Make the chance "guaranteed" or something
Store a variable of how many scraps exist and make always 4 spawn or something

hot zephyr
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herring on AS is probably an AS issue more of a fish issue (fishue)

frosty trellis
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And make the labs less annoying to find. The main labs are easier to find

frosty trellis
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Done

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Jk

fossil finch
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I mean they're required to spawn a boss and, eventually, access yharim

velvet lynx
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well, just implement what other weapons already do, make it do 10% damage against worm bosses

hot zephyr
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what is this
unless it's something that got resprited and I forgot

velvet lynx
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other weapons already do that

fossil finch
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That's not calamity

velvet lynx
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some wings from terraria

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a vanity wing

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its not modded

frosty trellis
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Dev wings?

velvet lynx
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yeah

hot zephyr
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oh right

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foodbarbarian's set

hollow shell
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That's vanilla/tMod yeah

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(use the wiki.gg wiki instead of Fandom)

velvet lynx
hollow shell
velvet lynx
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its just early wings that are pretty much hardmode wings on prehm, pretty broken xd

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i guess for the time being ill have to use a different summon or a different class so i dont cheese AS

small timber
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Ye, since at the minimum it have to be patched in next patch

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september patch I assume, unless that turn into november patch

hot zephyr
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a fish resist on AS sounds fine, although there's also whips that need to be dealt with first
whip issue (whipsue)

fossil finch
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September patch won't be needed

small timber
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Does whip still deal flat or % damage?

velvet lynx
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yeah, the tag damage greatly increases the damage of the herrings when dealing with AS

fossil finch
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So it's either November or finally, whenever devs want to

small timber
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Since the tooltip still say they are flat tag damage but I was told whip rebalance is already introduced

hot zephyr
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whip rebalance is far from being complete

inner anvil
hot zephyr
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if you want to test fish on AS, memes, that'd be great

inner anvil
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I'm literally going to sleep in some minutes.

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It's almost 4 AM.

fossil finch
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Ok so memes is resident summoner, storm is rogue, xyk is melee
Who does mage and ranger

inner anvil
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Ranger is Blast.

fossil finch
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Not surprised

inner anvil
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And nobody is Mage.

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Literally nobody.

grim tusk
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I have been doing mhage as of recently

inner anvil
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You're still Rogue forever.

fossil finch
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i will join the tester forces and become resident mage tester

grim tusk
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Hadal Urn was not gonna balance itself

inner anvil
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Wait no.

fossil finch
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It fits my personality iirc

inner anvil
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Pixl's mage resident.

grim tusk
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Altix also occasionally helps

small timber
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Oh right I keep confused cit with venus (for some reason) so I thought there is an atlantis enthusiast in tester team

grim tusk
fossil finch
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Also yeah i remember pixl's mage talks

inner anvil
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But that doesn't mean there is only one resident for each class.

hot zephyr
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it's more like storm, memes, and xyk are sigma testers that carry the rest of the team XD

grim tusk
hot zephyr
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altix and yuh also carry but they're just the ones who happen to have a bug magnet

inner anvil
grim tusk
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Weekends have some time

hot zephyr
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red jumpscare

swift wharf
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Hey dom can I beta test infernum

grim tusk
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Tracking disk dies

swift wharf
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.gif

inner anvil
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Summoner forever.

swift wharf
inner anvil
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Anyways, I'm not the only summoner resident on the team.

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I've got a frien. :)

hot zephyr
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i take credit for complaining about the lack of whip autoswing

swift wharf
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I will gladly accept your offer as a roommatetrollge

inner anvil
inner anvil
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It's not a joke about being alone.

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The other one's CrabBar.

hot zephyr
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crabber whip mode

grim tusk
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The excel sheets

hot zephyr
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king of the spreadsheets

inner anvil
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The power of math, spreadsheets and coffee.

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But yeah, CrabBar's got... plans, for balancing summoner and whips.

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I'm just helping him basically.

hot zephyr
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testerplans.png

inner anvil
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Anyways, I think I've finally caught some sleepiness, I'm going to sleep now, good night.

fossil finch
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Mythed crabbar mana rework

grim tusk
fossil finch
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We need a testerplans png

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I ought to spread it around

hot zephyr
distant gyro
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testerplans.png isn't real

hot zephyr
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it can hurt you.

distant gyro
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there's only

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.txt and .xlsx

grim tusk
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And the one docx

fossil finch
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but you can't give me those can you

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We need a memeable tester file extension

grim tusk
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just use a recolored devplans.png lol

distant gyro
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txt is very memeable

fossil finch
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Yeah but can you give me any of your. Txts?

grim tusk
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TesterPlans.txt
Content: [REDACTED]

distant gyro
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yeah

crude geode
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TesterPlans.txt
Content: wtf is a yo-yo

small timber
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Speaking of testers plan

distant gyro
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content: nothing

fossil finch
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Terrarian eight trillion dps

small timber
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Is flash round rebalance somewhere there?

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Since I remember flash round being incredibly stupid

distant gyro
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wtf are early game bullets

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so random

drowsy plank
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some of the ammo types ever

grim tusk
small timber
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This

frosty trellis
grim tusk
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Malachite before it was balanced and not “Nuke everything until DoG”

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Also malachite was 4 values not just one

frosty trellis
small timber
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@wintry gale the two wings you suggested dont really connect to each other, probably just only leave fearmonger in

god slayer wing is planned, just waiting for a satisfiable sprite

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currently the devs havent get a good sprite they are satisfied with yet which is why god slayer wing is still not a thing

drowsy plank
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it's so weird to me that they didnt like any of the current slayer options

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truly one of the items of all time

small timber
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tbh for me they should just make the item with an acceptable sprite and wait it there until a more suitable sprite comes

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since currently people just kinda forgot and dont submit god slayer wings anymore

wintry gale
small timber
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ya god slayer will be jetpack iirc

vernal heron
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God slayer mount?

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Rideable worm moment?

wintry gale
cobalt pewter
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mfw it's almost a year since they requested sprites for godslayer jetpack thing

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god.

hot zephyr
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yes kings go make more elderberry sprites

drowsy plank
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it was posted in 2020

cobalt pewter
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whoat

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incredible

cobalt pewter
drowsy plank
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2 fuckin years and still no slayer wing sprite

small timber
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tbh I liked the old HP/hearts sprite with cal hp upgrades more

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the new one is a bit too vibrant, like too many colours mixing together

drowsy plank
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ill be honest idk how tf the art server works i tried to make a submission for it once and people were dicks to me and i never went there again but i saw the submissions and there were so many and idk how tf none of them passed

cobalt pewter
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I think the bar hp display isn't affected by cal upgrades yet?

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I haven't actually reached that point on my pt

small timber
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I use the old one (as in the one that show hearts instead of a bar)

cobalt pewter
drowsy plank
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lmao idfk

cobalt pewter
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either way I don't see why they shouldn't just

make the wing sprites by themselves first then apply the resprite when they actually got it

drowsy plank
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i wonder if i can find the submissons

cobalt pewter
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probably quite double the effort but is it really worth holding an item in dev hell for over 2 years

small timber
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I think the deal with art server is probably the same as this channel tbh

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probably had to deal with too much troll submission

cobalt pewter
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much easier to make a troll submission here tho

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just say shit fart and done

drowsy plank
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not really

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subs are really clean tbh

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here

small timber
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I think for that particular one iban did say the original spriter like, dont work on it anymore or something?

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so it just ends there

drowsy plank
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oh so it doesnt loop correctly or something?

small timber
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not sure, detail probably have to ask iban, I only remember it was talked about

drowsy plank
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i think the most annoying part of the booster sprite now is that iban also seems to be doing a rework to gs armor to coincide with the DoG resprite so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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bro spacer went offline and the god slayer part is still in the sugg

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sad!

wintry gale
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i was mining auric ore HDfailure

frosty trellis
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LOL

drowsy plank
# wintry gale wut

xpc was saying, and i agree, that this should really be two suggs, and at that point, since god slayer pack is already planned, you could just make this about fearmonger

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tbh post-ML needs more wings anyway

frosty trellis
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True

cobalt pewter
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and angel treads needs a separate crafting branch that is all boots

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tracers are kinda.....

yea...m

frosty trellis
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Make it more wing focused so people stop using tracers before celestial HDfailure

wintry gale
frosty trellis
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Old Duke has wings????

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Huh????

drowsy plank
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in calval i think HDfailure

frosty trellis
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Ohhhh

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That would make sense

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Since folly has wings in calval that if you want to sacrifice a little damage for 30 flight time

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That's not a joke

drowsy plank
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honestly tho a handful of calval wings would be really nice to see real implementation for

small timber
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the tracer suggestion was already approved, just waiting for the soon™ actual implementation

frosty trellis
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Yeah

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What tracer suggestion?

drowsy plank
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tracer/boot line split

wintry gale
small timber
drowsy plank
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doesnt fix the wing drought post ML regardless

small timber
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it is somewhere in the devplans.png, meaning it will get implemented before year 2050

drowsy plank
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just like the combo mining and building accs!!

hot zephyr
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@stiff dagger why

distant gyro
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you could... not pick it up?

small timber
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if you dont want to use the reaver shark skip, just dont fish it up

stiff dagger
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because it's a progression skip, as someone who hosts multiplayer runs, people will do it even if you don't allow it

small timber
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it is not exactly something you just find from naturally generated gold chest

stiff dagger
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there's a reason vanilla nerfed it

distant gyro
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seems like a disciplinary issue

small timber
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calamity made is so progression skip is an option to play the game, it rely on you and your team to come to coordination if they dont want to use it

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and the tldr of the skip is pretty much just post-evil 1 boss

distant gyro
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it is less blatant than something like fighting aquatic scourge before wof but it more or less has the same effect

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doing something to progression skip slightly

stiff dagger
distant gyro
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well

hot zephyr
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get better friends

distant gyro
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you can go to singleplayer

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cheat in god slayer slugs, then use a gun that converts bullets

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and then go to multiplayer and disguise an incredibly op weapon and no one is able to bat an eye

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you can try this as a social experiment and you can easily get away with it blaming the weapon being op

stiff dagger
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I know that, Honestly it isn't the biggest issue, it just doesn't really make sense why it was unnerfed

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I'll make this clear, I know how to use multiplayer moderation, I tend to have hero's mod on runs with randos to prevent people from bringing in cheats

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without cheating myself of course

distant gyro
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it was unnerfed because otherwise the early game benefits outweigh the efforts to get reaver shark

stiff dagger
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that's probably fair, not a game ruiner

distant gyro
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and it skips something not too major considering the pre-hardmode power curve in mind

small timber
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and more so that usually you have to deliberately get it, it is not something you just run into

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you have to fish in ocean with the intent of getting reaver shark and use it to do progression skip, at that point it is similar to recall abuse/nurse abuse where if they really want to do it it should be on intention

distant gyro
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are there even useful fishing catches in the ocean early game HDfailure

stiff dagger
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🤷‍♂️

frosty trellis
distant gyro
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from experience you get fish, fish, fish, fish, the occasional crate at the chance of never

small timber
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recall abuse and nurse abuse is, in fact, not prevented in non-death mode

distant gyro
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frog leg when it feels like it (crafting with frogs is better)

small timber
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in fact they just removed recall abuse prevention, you can use recall now in bosses

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I will really like the recall thing to still be part of death mode anti-cheese, but ya it is their decision

chilly rivet
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I sometimes feel like recall could be like when you accidentally trigger a boss

frosty trellis
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I'm surprised it was removed from deaths anti cheese tbh

chilly rivet
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like anahita

frosty trellis
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Fair enough

distant gyro
frosty trellis
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But you could also just.... Save and exit the game

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Lol

chilly rivet
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yeah I do that.

frosty trellis
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If you want to despawn something you accidentally triggered

chilly rivet
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idk why they removed that since you can do that.

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but ok.

stiff dagger
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To be fair, it's something so minor I can live with calamity reverting the reaver shark nerf

Considering I mainly play on death mode anyways

frosty trellis
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It's a nice thing to be able to do if you want

stiff dagger
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kinda wished the 145th entry in the latest changelog had to do with that

small timber
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the reaver shark nerf is unlikely to be removed since it is done intentionally

frosty trellis
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Yeah

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Anything progression skip that's in the game is not getting removed

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Hell, if you're extremely good, you could try and kill Yharon after defeating dragonfolly

small timber
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the only one is like meteor not getting revert I think

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at some point it was to become pre-evil 1 again, but they didnt do it

stiff dagger
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yeah, calamity has some bizarre ways of progression skipping that I find add to it rather than take away

frosty trellis
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I never got the meteor change since you can find meteor bars in gold chests that are near hell anyways

stiff dagger
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like aquatic scourge technically being beatable pre hardmode

hot zephyr
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the base-stat changes mostly exist for mod compatibility

frosty trellis
small timber
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meteor bars is a calamity thing I think? and the nerf was vanilla

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just this time calamity didnt revert it

frosty trellis
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It's a terraria thing

small timber
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wait what that is a terraria thing?

frosty trellis
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Yeah

small timber
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I guess I just never found it

frosty trellis
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I didn't either until one of my more recent pts

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But it's apparently a vanilla thing

chilly rivet
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does yharon require moonlord to be defeated to spawn

frosty trellis
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Nope

chilly rivet
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Then you can fight him at hardmode.

small timber
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you can defeat yharon with pre-ML gear

frosty trellis
#

Yeah

small timber
#

source: I made it up

chilly rivet
frosty trellis
#

My source is that I made it the fuck up

small timber
frosty trellis
#

Yes

chilly rivet
#

has anyone ever did that before

small timber
#

even on master death mode because I am the one that done it

frosty trellis
#

And the answer on how: Terraprisma

chilly rivet
#

I need to see this

#

if not, I will do it myself

#

cuz this idea sounds funny as fuck

small timber
#

@stiff dagger it will benefit the suggestion if you have an image attached tbh

#

since reading it now I am confused as to where it is placed

stiff dagger
#

I'll attach it after my slowmode goes off

chilly rivet
#

hey xpc

#

I saw the vid

small timber
#

I think you cant attach image to suggestion after it is posted, so you need to repost the entire suggestion iirc

chilly rivet
#

very damn cool

#

but I wonder

#

can I do it in Death

small timber
#

either discord moment or server setting

small timber
stiff dagger
small timber
#

if you actually attack yharon then you can do it in any difficulty, but for completely not attacking it must be on death (dont have to be master)

#

since SP1 yharon don't do big bullet hell so it dont deal damage to itself in Rev, on Death it skip SP1 and start at SP2

hollow shell
#

Hmm

cobalt heath
#

hey rover

#

have there been plans for the arsenal furniture?

#

or is it just a missed oversight

hollow shell
#

I have yet to see anything concrete for arsenal furniture nor has it really been mentioned outside of sugg channels

cobalt heath
#

i was planning on making some, but then i realised that asesprite costs 20 euros which i dont have

hollow shell
#

You don't need Aseprite to do spritework, of course
Literally any program more advanced than MS Paint will work (cuz you need transparency support)

cobalt heath
#

my idea was making them similar to the cactus ones

#

but w arsenal colors

cobalt pewter
#

@ashen warren
#suggestions-posting message

refer to formatting on above suggs

also can't you just

wait until Chaos State expires to use the potion at all?

lilac fulcrum
#

maybe if you're doing a hardcore run don't use teleportation potions, there are already tons of risks to them, like lava and bee hives and stuff

small timber
#

that is way too specific

cobalt pewter
#

also this is can be entirely avoided by not being impatient

small timber
#

just dont have chaos state when you are using teleportation potion, it is not that hard

#

the actual argument will be that teleporting into abyss will drown you instantly, which can also be countered by amidias blessing

#

you just have to be like, prepared for hardcore

neat linden
#

and besides, being teleported into the abyss isn't that common

#

at least in my experience which was just using ~100 tp potions to find the temple

#

i got teleported into the sulphurous sea but never abyss

swift wharf
#

keep it for the funny

short walrus
#

@hot forum why though, when old duke is

  • funnier
  • a better descriptor
#

and also you have no reasoning and improper formatting, so the sugg won't go through

small timber
#

joke suggestion is not allowed

crimson night
#

Dukie nukie is far superior tbh

fossil finch
#

Duke Nukem would have a joke about this

stable musk
#

teleportation potions shouldn't put you in abyss in a first place

hot zephyr
#

It does what it says

stable musk
#

imagine using it in hc run lol

hot zephyr
#

Don't use it

#

So easy

stable musk
#

or in any run

#

you just use it and like

instantly die to mobs and suffocating

sleek ore
#

or lava

#

or wait it always puts you on solid ground or something

#

still

random pendant
#

I wonder, which calamity bosses have a special death animation, i know DOG, yharon, and providence has one, anything else?

#

Yea those too

last spoke
#

Slime god core

random pendant
#

I kinda want to make a list of the bosses and what i think their death animation could be

#

For example
Crabulon no longer glowing and falls apart

cobalt pewter
#

that's very likely going into specific grounds if you wanna suggest them

random pendant
#

Then i can just suggest more death animations?

#

Because i think its one of the best visual things the mod has

hollow shell
#

Spawn and death animations are in the Dont's doc under the "Frequently Suggested" section

#

Cuz
it was suggested all the time

random pendant
#

Ah

#

Good thing i asked here before i suggested that

cobalt pewter
#

@open meadow it's essentially making vanilla thrower weapon rogue: no.

#

check the don'ts doc again

hot forum
golden tulip
#

@eternal escarp yes

drowsy plank
hollow shell
#

mmm yeah we will not change the damage class of a vanilla weapon

#

We'll edit balance but we won't straight-up move them to another class

#

However that bit about Metal Monstrosity does sound funky and you could suggest that get fixed (we could use a custom proj instead of vanilla spiked balls)

open meadow
hollow shell
#

@golden tulip ADHD issue

#

Their tooltips are only like 3 lines long

golden tulip
#

i dont even have adhd

open meadow
#

Done and adjusted

hollow shell
#

Thanks Sketch realwegud

open meadow
#

💖

hollow shell
#

Oh god I misinterpreted that title

#

I thought you were suggesting to make AotA a direct upgrade to Starfury and have Fractured Ark be standalone

cobalt heath
#

kek

#

no

#

just

#

reputting starfury on the next one in the line

hollow shell
#

Yeah

cobalt heath
#

cause that one actually has stars

drowsy plank
#

ark being a straight esword upgrade is very funny

#

if this passes i mean

cobalt heath
#

well i mean

#

it has beam

drowsy plank
#

i realize

#

maybe shove the aerialite sword in to replace it idk

cobalt heath
#

well

#

it would insta controdict my point

#

it has no wind blade

#

it simply is

#

e sword

#
  • gel
#

make ark

hollow shell
cobalt heath
#

storm rules

#

ds 3 reference pog

drowsy plank
#

man i forgot that thing existed lmao

small timber
#

Storm ruler is an ok weapon against deus

#

Other than that storm ruler who

drowsy plank
#

i was just trying to find another sword that could replace starfury, but ig it really do just be an upgraded esword at the end of the day

cobalt heath
#

it just got a cool resprite

small timber
#

Speaking of starfury I remember isnt there a weapon that use arkhalis/terragrim only?

#

I thought that one should use enchanted sword too since terragrim is now uncraftable

#

And cosmic elemental spawn rate in hardmode is abyssmal

drowsy plank
#

used to be i think

#

oh wait nvm

#

found it

#
Calamity Mod Wiki

The Devil's Sunrise is a craftable post-Moon Lord melee weapon that is a direct upgrade to the Arkhalis. While being swung, white blurred slashes will appear in the direction of the mouse, creating an illusion that the sword itself is being swung very quickly. Any enemies that are hit by the slashes will take damage and are inflicted with the Br...

#

dono HDfailure

small timber
#

Oh god it is always dono moment

drowsy plank
#

uhhhhhh make it an upgrade to omniblade instead ez

small timber
#

Isnt arkhalis used to be craftable? At the very least the same can be done on terragrim at least

drowsy plank
cobalt heath
drowsy plank
drowsy plank
#
Calamity Mod Wiki

The Devil’s Sunrise is a craftable post-Moon Lord melee weapon that is a direct upgrade to the Arkhalis. While being swung, white blurred slashes will appear in the direction of the mouse, creating an illusion that the sword itself is being swung very quickly. Any enemies that are hit by the slashes will take damage and are inflicted with the Br...

#

here's the oldest version of that page

#

still melee

#

from 2019

cobalt pewter
#

you might be mistaking it with

#

[[Sylvan Slasher]]

red stormBOT
cobalt pewter
#

which is now removed

drowsy plank
#

quest to find yatagarasu and lompl allimath to make their dono weapons less awful

#

(cosmic shiv and devil's sunrise)

cobalt pewter
#

just

ping them

#

go on

#

:clueless:

drowsy plank
#

3 yatagarasus...,.

#

oh hey lompl is actually still here

#

now im trying to figure out if it would actually make sense to replace terragrim with omniblade... it's the only weapon i can think of with a similar attack style. or i guess make it esword alt since it does shoot a projectile anyway

#

wait it shoots a like... flamelash style orb BirbDisgust

#

this weapon is so confusing

cobalt heath
#

donor item

#

@hollow shell

#

sis

#

and a pretty clear one at that

eternal escarp
#

You know you can tell it to the suggestor itself first

cobalt heath
#

whats the fun at that

#

but yeah

#

sorry

eternal escarp
#

@surreal raven specific item suggestions are dissallowed, i would refer you to the document pinned here

eternal escarp
cobalt heath
#

cause ORDER is fun

surreal raven
#

sorry then'

eternal escarp
#

it happens, dont worry

cobalt heath
#

fun fact I am actually pro anarchy

small timber
#

I mean, it will save the moderators work if the suggestion are removed instead of having mods being pinged everytime

drowsy plank
stable musk
#

who's gonna tell him what if something is in recipe it doesn't mean it should have it's properties

#

and by that you need to find two enchanted swords

hollow shell
#

?

#

I don't think this sugg changes the amount of Enchanted Swords you'd need

cobalt heath
#

yeah but like

#

why not

sand ermine
#

@real crane wrong format

#

also you probably just had a dodge ready to go

#

also doesn't this count as a bug report if he didnt have a dodge?

gilded scroll
#

and if adren didnt get lost on hit, that would ruin the fun lol

sand ermine
#

yeah

#

its a reward tbh

#

a reward for being good at game : )

random pasture
#

Or exploiting the hell out of the dont starve bossfight

fossil finch
#

sigma male more like Ligma male

neat linden
#

what is that sugg even

fossil finch
#

the joke is that they're lame

neat linden
#

is that a suggestion or a false statement

#

because right now it's the latter

fossil finch
#

it is a suggestion i guess

hollow shell
#

This is why all suggestions should be phrased as commands, not statements

#

(satisfying to see that all other suggs in posting rn have commanding action verbs as the first word, as well as very many of the suggs in voting)

open meadow
#

@hollow shell Yeah, just want to run by you, while using the Metal Monstrosity, this happened

hollow shell
#

heh

#

Wow

grim tusk
#

🐛

hollow shell
#

(not really bug as much as, questionable design choice)

drowsy plank
#

the fact it was on a ranged accessory was always a bit weird to me lol

sonic yarrow
#

ranger is just too cool i guess

short walrus
drowsy plank
#

i swore stopwatch used to have a recipe with a timer from the mechanic or something didnt it

orchid briar
#

It may have been another QOL mod, because I remember something similar

unreal lark
#

nope. for stopwatch and lifeform analyzer it's just the traveling merchant.

drowsy plank
#

used to

#

not currently does

frosty dagger
#

Buff Art Attack

I'm gonna have to be blunt for this one but this weapon is so bad I would still consider it unusable if it's damage was increased by 5x or if it was moved to pre-hardmode. I can barely keep a consistent 225+ dps against a target dummy where other weapons on sooner tiers (like SHPC or Frost Staff) can easily maintain 1600+ dps. The charging ability of the weapon is useless because it takes over four seconds to charge and only rewards you with 2.3x damage and you can draw circles much faster than two seconds.
For reference I was using Daedalus armor and wings, sorcerer emblem, celestial emblem, all menacing, magic power, rage, wrath, crystall ball, and mythical reforges for testing
Another problem with this weapon is the enemy has to be on screen and it takes so much more focus to draw consistent circles on an enemy than it does to just click on them. This weapon is harder to use yet still deals so much less damage then weapons on earlier tiers
I hate to be so down on this weapon because it's such a unique concept but in it's current form it's simply unusable.

crude geode
#

art attack is known to be bad

#

it will get buffed

frosty dagger
#

Oh, well cool then

inner anvil
#

We know it's bad.
We know it's been bad even before release.
But nobody wants to bother balancing it.

gray nebula
#

sugg kidna mid ngl

#

:peeptohink:

#

like idk if just having another minion acc is that interesting

#

like its kinda like , like, fungal clump but right before

crude geode
#

^this tbh tbh

drowsy plank
#

there's probably some better way to balance CJ

#

dont ask me what it is tho idfk

gusty burrow
#

would make sense for the crown jewel to do what the crown jewel actually does

gray nebula
#

yea but iuno

#

maybe its a sonic ring accessory since atm the main thing it does is a "on hit" thing

#

well not fully but yea

#

like u get hit > u blurb out into multiple Royalle Gel chunks that bouncea round before sticking to the ground, and you can collect them to gain a short burst of hp regen slightly

gusty burrow
#

blurb

#

nice word

fossil finch
#

royal gel but good

#

no way

drowsy plank
#

that would be cool

#

iban coming up with a good way to revamp an accessory 0.5 seconds after someone points out a problem with it

gray nebula
#

and as always its inspred by some other piece of media

#

i mean its just a random idea mabe it sucks

gusty burrow
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

fossil finch
#

Deploy the rover

cobalt pewter
#

Magical Conch is already renamed anyways

ashen warren
cobalt pewter
#

[[Magical Conch]]

red stormBOT
ashen warren
#

oh nice

cobalt pewter
#

honestly might as well include both Magic and Demon Conches

#

oh wait

#

demon conch has a recipe?

#

hm

ashen warren
ashen warren
cobalt pewter
#

ah

keen zodiac
#

magic conch is super easy to find already

crude geode
#

demon conch has a recipe because hell fishing has a really annoying wait time for no reason

sinful canopy
#

im playing calamity in revengeance mode as mage and i cant beat the destroyer. any tips?

#

thats my armor and stuff

small timber
#

Wrong channel for this

proud meteor
#

Im here to suggest a new miniboss i was thinking of the old yharon sprite and what if there was a miniboss similar to giant clam (kinda) it would first spawn when plague bringer is killed a toxic hummingbird will spawn killing it will summon (Insert-Name)'s plauge form ot would be a reasonable step up then when yharon is killed the hummingbird will be on fire killing it now will summon its stronger variation it would be a harder yharon with more bullet hell type stuff i dont know if it would work well but i find it a cool idea

small timber
#

while people tend to not focus too much on miniboss, they are still a big addition to the mod

#

and from the idea you say, that doesn't sound like a miniboss considering it is "harder yharon"

stable musk
#

@real crane
An ❗ imo

#

no explanation why, no variants.

Adrenaline is already busted with it going off after getting hit

#

If you will make so then you will HAVE to make all bosses' hp pool giant as every boss rn will die swiftly if you will get +200% damage every 30 seconds

small timber
#

I think the suggestion is only dont deplete if the bar is already full

stable musk
small timber
#

but ya, no reason no explanation, and contrast with the design of the bar

stable musk
#

if you get hit then it's your fault (about adren sugg)

small timber
#

that is not a bug as to my knowledge, in fact it had persist for patches now

stable musk
#

if you make so it doesn't deplete after being full then you have absolutely no reason to save it up

small timber
#

and it is not players' fault, because when you are dodging grid laser you cannot dodge having devourer inside you at the same time, grid laser requires you to be static

proud quest
small timber
#

(oh right that sounding makes much sense)

#

I dont think that is a bug anyway

#

otherwise it would had been fixed already, since it already exist few patches ago

#

probably more of an oversight, since death mode teleport is faster, and the slower teleport in revengeance make it have hitbox before the teleport is complete

proud quest
#

ye shit is wack

half sage
#

unofficial calamity mod music exists

#

not formatted correctly

small timber
#

and ya calamity is unlikely to add music for vanilla bosses

half sage
#

suggestions have to be formatted in a certain way for the bot to read them

small timber
#

especially considering how much work you need to put into the music, vanilla boss music already existing, and of course unofficial calamity mod music exist

#

add music

#

for anything but those that calamity already add music to, aka calamity bosses

#

so basically unofficial calamity music mod add music for everything but calamity music

#

including vanillas

#

it is still a work in progress, not all vanilla bosses already have music, but many of them do

eternal escarp
#

what does overpowered even mean in this context

eternal escarp
#

so true

distant gyro
#

i thought that was a typo when i read it

#

but i also cant figure out what it means

cobalt pewter
#

it means that the person has a skill issue

crude geode
#

od maybe instead?

eternal escarp
#

if its od(d) then it would be contradictory to the sugg i think

#

or if its od as in, old duke then it wouldnt fit
i think its just another case of people thinking op means cool or good in any sense whatsoever

safe oasis
#

calamity having music is game-breakingly overpowered tbh

eternal escarp
#

huh

#

today i learned

crude geode
#

This is what I think the suggestion might have meant? Byeah it’s most likely just people being really bad and OP losing it’s meaning

small timber
#

wulfrum blunderbuss are overpowered against green slime

eternal escarp
#

!

#

must nerf!!!!11!1!

small timber
#

that said speaking of wulfrum blunderbuss, I am doing a new pt to find things to complain make suggestion about, is wulfrum stuff intentionally weaker than most things you can craft?

#

since from my current experience they are weaker than even musket

safe oasis
safe oasis
small timber
#

(also why does undertaker not have point blank shot)

eternal escarp
#

i havnt compared blunderbuss to other weapons when i personally requested balance changes to it, i mostly checked if it was on the estimated killtime
with that said, i did have shark tooth necklace there, which may have slightly skewed results to some of the weapons

#

but i currently used blunderbuss in a playthrough

small timber
#

I thought minishark was the ceiling so I compared to musket instead, but ya

eternal escarp
#

and its been doings pretty well for me

#

even without a necklace

small timber
#

ye I think shark tooth necklace changed alot, probably a solid ~30% dps boost

eternal escarp
#

i could recheck them on public without a necklace, but i think the wulfrum gear is fine as it currently stands

#

considering it is much easier to get with things like Wulfrum Lure

crude geode
#

Something that’s always bothered me (and the concept of balance as a whole reminded me) is how piercing is treated against worm bosses

small timber
#

oh right I have master mode on

#

no wonder wulfrum stuff do nothing against goblin army

#

I thought calamity removed master mode scaling on normal enemy for some reason so I opted for master

crude geode
#

It feels like 90% of the time in Cal piercing weapons are nerfed into the ground against specifically worm bosses, to the point where non-piercing weapons are like. viable on them when it seems like it SHOULD be expected to use piercing weapons on something like EoW.

#

Might be talking out of my ass though.

small timber
#

I think jester arrow are still very useful for like EoW

#

although there is the case of flash round casually making musket extremely good against worm

eternal escarp
#

flash rounds

ashen warren
#

osg

distant gyro
#

unless it's like a dog type boss where there's a singular weak point

small timber
#

just casually 1/5 the kill time from 1:22 to 0:26 on musket with flash round vs silver bullet

flash round and luminite arrow are probably among the most stupid ammo just because of how they amplify damage

crude geode
#

Just had to look up flash rounds

#

What a weird bullet type

safe oasis
small timber
#

also I feel rover drive is certified goated

#

imagine if there is an accessory that says "You have +67(expert)/75(master) defense against the first hit taken every 10 seconds"

#

that is dodge on steriod for most of HM, and only is really weaker/not worth in post-ML

stable musk
#

@ashen warren ❗

#

There is other mods doing this

small timber
#

@wintry gale this probably count for it already?

keen zodiac
half sage
#

not being ported iirc

keen zodiac
#

it is

#

ennway music pack is the 1.4 version

clam extra music was the 1.3 version

eternal escarp
#

my take: just dont use the recon scope

#

destroyer emblem is quite litterally the same accessory without the scope 🚎

cobalt heath
#

good take

eternal escarp
#

that is a completely different thing

#

now you removed it and my response has no context HDfailure

cobalt heath
#

i delete that cause if known contects it counts as rage bait

#

remember that one?

#

when I tried to remove mirrors i-frame dodge

#

(cause it's op as fuck HDfailure )

ruby plover
#

blast just cos you used rifle cope on scal doesnt mean you get to have opinions whereismysalad

#

(although that being said
(i agree with you

))

eternal escarp
ruby plover
#

ur dark pink so ur invalid 🙄

crude geode
#

I think green and red names are invalid instead thonk

cobalt heath
#

i think anything but white names are invalid

#

if i had not put the word names in that it could have been taken really out of context HDfailure

eternal escarp
cobalt heath
#

blast can you get me hired for being a tester

eternal escarp
#

no

cobalt heath
#

my qualifications are that there are none

hardy dock
#

Sounds great I’m in

eternal escarp
#

you have been qualified to be unhired

somber isle
eternal escarp
#

holy shit

inner anvil
#

No way.

cobalt heath
#

kek

eternal escarp
#

wait is this eclipse alt

swift wharf
eternal escarp
#

fuck you

swift wharf
#

Had to do it

inner anvil
#

Bruh.

eternal escarp
#

i agree

#

this was comedic

small timber
#

as long as it is not zenithneedsabuff6789

#

(no)

swift wharf
#

I only have 2 emails

small timber
#

now you are forever stucked with pumperneedsabuff221

eternal escarp
#

worth it

#

there is

cobalt heath
#

fuck you eclipse you made me laugh mid class

swift wharf
#

this one?

cobalt heath
#

and teach noticed

swift wharf
#

anyways do NOT buff pumpler

small timber
#

L

swift wharf
#

(this is when I switch to my alt and say DO buff pumpler)

#

anyways I agree with the suggestion(s)

eternal escarp
#

no you arent supposed to grrrrrrrrr

distant gyro
swift wharf
#

I mean this one

inner anvil
#

I definetly do like that sugg, those accesories are really useless.

eternal escarp
#

oh okay

#

yes

swift wharf
#

wait it's been 2 weeks

#

do I post it again?

eternal escarp
#

maybe wait a bit

small timber
#

tester colour is dark pink? I always thought it is darkish red

eternal escarp
inner anvil
#

I don't know what this color is.

swift wharf
#

it's calamity colored

eternal escarp
#

i said NOT calamity style

inner anvil
#

What is the meme behind "Calamity Style"? I'm still relatively new in this community.

distant gyro
inner anvil
#

That's probably an AI generated name, anyways.

eternal escarp
#

but something about a sprite being submitted somewhere and then being rejected because "i said NOT calamity style" i think

crude geode
#

no way

swift wharf
eternal escarp
#

there may be multiple sources for the gag

swift wharf
#

"Sorry I don't like your art can you redraw everything into my subjective better style?"

quiet kernel
cobalt pewter
#

a bit silly and scrumfy idea, would replacing decrypted "encrypted schematics" with Draedon's Log relevant to the decrypted info cause problems?

#

the schematics are one time use as far as I understood

fossil finch
#

I've absolutely no idea what you mean

#

but,

#

They already work like this

#

You can already use them to see their decryption text like a log

unborn oriole
#

Turn schematics into another item like the decrypted schematic from sunken sea

cobalt pewter
#

yeah, just to go full-on I guess

unborn oriole
#

That's what pizza meant i think

cobalt pewter
#

the schematics are still having "Encrypted" in their name despite already being decrypted

#

and despite not being a Draedon's Log you can already use it like one, though I did assume that removing the schematic somewhere during or after decryption could cause problems

fossil finch
#

I don't think changing it's sprite to a log one is a good idea it could confuse players

#

And they already have a screen anyway

cobalt pewter
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hmm, fair

fossil finch
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Idk if you can change their name to be decrypted schematic

swift wharf
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change their name to Smth Schematic

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And have it say encrypted/decrypted in the tooltip

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like arsenal or draedon schematic

cobalt pewter
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The tooltip already changes on decryption state

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so it only leaves the name

swift wharf
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that's what I'm sayin

crisp cobalt
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I know this isn't a bug but these two fish have identical descriptions

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Should I like, send this in the suggestion?

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Idk if it's even necessary/relevant

small timber
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just send it I think?

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it really depend on how much you (personally) care about item description tbh

crude geode
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Time for it to get morbillion stars

fossil finch
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chaotic fish having that description may be a bug considering it both has no horns ans is a grabbag fish

drowsy plank
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nope that is

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very much intended

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it actually got the horn tooltip before it even dropped chaotic essense or whatever the hell the craigs souls are

crisp cobalt
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that... does sound chaotic

distant gyro
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all the unobtainable useless fish probably were copypasted en masse until they got use

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(these fish used to do nothing other than cash)

crisp cobalt
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well then I guess it's not so important to change them then

gray nebula
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rev/death are aditions ontop of the regular terraria difficulties so itd make no sense for them to be above

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and classic doesnt make sense to be included either since its already downbelow

short walrus
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rather cringe worldgen option when the Devs Added an awesome new interface just for this exact purpose

drowsy plank
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the fact vanilla terraria difficulties are locked at world gen kinda dumb kinda stupid tbh fr

kindred creek
gray nebula
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no because

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you already have classic listed below expert and master

kindred creek
gray nebula
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could just be "none" or something

gray nebula
short walrus
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Maybe

gray nebula
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sugg didnt say anything about deleting the current UI

kindred creek
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guys, the image is just a prototype

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it's not perfect by any means

short walrus
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But it's kinda redundant

kindred creek
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i did the best i could

gray nebula
short walrus
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I cannot understand a word you are saying

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(midnight gaming)

drowsy plank
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yknow a way to gen a world in a cal difficulty would be nice
personally i just thought it would be hard to implement something like that

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that way u dont have to go and change it after the world gens immediately

short walrus
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Mm

cobalt pewter
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what's the point of

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a

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the current UI element in game for cal difficulty suffices

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personally I would've loved if it's a more gridlike approach instead of dropdown, but that's a minor nitpick

hollow shell
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(Probably should have copied the bunny icons, not the globe icons)

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(not just cuz of the icons themselves but also cuz the further difficulties should really be below the main ones)

cobalt pewter
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you can already damage enemies by yourself thru wh*ps or Cnidarian early on

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might as well make minions completely hidden until you hit an enemy or they hit you

gray nebula
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or just

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unsummon them

cobalt heath
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ozza i guess liked my idea

median geyser
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So I've been trying to think of ideas and I've had 2 but I personally think they suck.

I had a idea where the Cnidreon could be a mini boss that's been reworked but I think that's not allowed as a suggestion.

Another idea I had was for a whip to be added that could be obtained extremely early on, before leather whip essentially.

Do these suck or should I post them?

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I'm new to the server btw

drowsy plank
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read the rules in the pins

median geyser
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The second one abides by rules, I'm just asking if they suck as ideas

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the first I'm not sure

inner anvil
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Pins says that you also can't post the second one.

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In the doc more specifically.

drowsy plank
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also if i remember correctly iban already has plans to rework cnidrion anyway

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new cnidrion graves and such

frail mantle
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cnidrion changes are planned yes

median geyser
serene tendon
drowsy plank
small timber
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Sometimes devs to give some of these infos here when discussion happen/suggestion related to the topic

inner anvil
small timber
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No details of course

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But rough idea

inner anvil
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But maybe I'm wrong, but even if I was, we doubt we'll add any whips in the next... year or so?

drowsy plank
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gotta balance the existing ones first

inner anvil
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We still have a lot of work to do with Vanilla whips.

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A lot of work.

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Adding a new whip would make things worse, sorry.

swift wharf
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snapthorn is technically pre-game

hollow shell
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SIS is mainly about execution

hollow shell
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A whip could get added to the Starter Bag or made out of Gel or something, earlier than Zoologist

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if supported by reasoning why it would benefit summoner to have instant whip access

frosty trellis
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I mean, the squirrel kinda sucks early game since you're starting with a sentry and not a minion, so killing stuff, even wulfrum enemies, takes time and is a pain

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Having a weak whip to support it would be beneficial for early game

swift wharf
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I was gonna mention finch staff but it needs the merchant hdflr

frosty trellis
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LOL

swift wharf
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and slime staff needs 40 gel sooooo

frosty trellis
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But like, your other whip options are:
Leather, which isn't cheap and requires bestiary completion which can be hard when you can't hit a bat
Snap thorn, which is suicide to try for with a squirrel

swift wharf
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I don't think a whip really fits for the early-early game

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HOWEVER

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a tagging weapon would still be nice

frosty trellis
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Yeah

drowsy plank
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summon stick

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it's just a shortsword that deals summon damage but has a really long tagging range

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like ur pointing at the enemy to direct the minions so it doesnt deal damage but you can still hit stuff with it

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there u go

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in all honesty tho that aint too important, just ask for some kind of early game summon option other than squirrel squire

drowsy plank
frosty trellis
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Hell, finch instead of squirrel would be miles better

drowsy plank
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im glad squirrel squire exists cause calamity's sentry selection is BrimFace
and while it is better than vanilla's it still aint great
but yeah for the starter bag finch would be way better

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just add squirrel to staff recipe ez

frosty trellis
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Post-DoG sentries be like; I don't exist

drowsy plank
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not true

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we got uh

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Calamity Mod Wiki

Perdition is a post-Moon Lord sentry that drops from Supreme Calamitas. When used, a floating beacon sentry follows the player around. When an enemy is targeted via right-clicking with most summon weapons, a cross appears on the marked target, a large area lights up with fire dust, and various types of homing souls appear from below.

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this thing i guess

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wait this follows the player

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well it still uses sentry slots so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

frosty trellis
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Ah yes

neat linden
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Sentry but not sentry

frosty trellis
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Let me just use carrion until post-scal

drowsy plank
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i remember carrion was really strong so i didnt think that was too much of a stretch, but yeah, a few more options wouldnt hurt

frosty trellis
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Carrion is anything but good for DoG and Yharon

drowsy plank
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sad!

frosty trellis
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I just skip old Duke as summoner

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Since there is no reason to fight it since carrion is bad and the other accessories aren't the greatest

drowsy plank
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this dude got 2 summoner drops and they both suck ass

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god i hope the DoG rework comes soon

frosty trellis
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And two ranger drops that are both not as good as the ranger drop from a miniboss in the event itself

drowsy plank
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what, you dont like septic skewer? CalSmug

frosty trellis
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SAC does way to much to DoG and I love it

drowsy plank
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i still havent tried it out myself cause i found bloodworms and first tried old duke and managed just fine with blood boiler, but SAC has been a funny haha on DoG for... a long damn time

frosty trellis
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SAC is the strongest ranger weapon for DoG from my experience

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It's just insane

drowsy plank
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wait what the fuck this thing homes now??

frosty trellis
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Old Duke imo has one great drop, 2 good but not amazing drops, and the others suck

frosty trellis
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Had homing in 1.5

drowsy plank
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wow

frosty trellis
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It's fucking bonkers

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And I love it

drowsy plank
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crafting!!! i love crafting!!!! who needs to have progression locks on items when you can just craft them :)

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tho tbf in this case i

frosty trellis
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Lmaooooo

drowsy plank
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dont really give a shit

frosty trellis
drowsy plank
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bug net really should just be given to you at the start

frosty trellis
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True!

drowsy plank
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as you know being able to pick up squirrels is just too strong early game tho HDfailure

frosty trellis
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Let me catch worms from the get go

drowsy plank
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you can throw them at enemies and pretend they're that one fargo's item that explodes

frosty trellis
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Can't forget about those damning things

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LOL

drowsy plank
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oh dynamite bunnies are a funny haha but that's more a demolitionist thing anyway so

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idk maybe if ur playing in exactly ftw bug net is busted but

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it's ftw

frosty trellis
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It's ftw

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Yeah

drowsy plank
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yknow we talk about donor items a lot and im starting to wonder if there should just be some kinda chart like how we have testers listed in pins to contact these people cause so many of the weapons are ass

neat linden
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unless the donor for a certain item is long gone from this server :hdflr: