#suggestions-discussion
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after final boss i just start a new world
exo mechs i think needs some work, if i dont melt i just go into info overload and it becomes hard to dodge everything on the 3 mech stage
but i could just be bad lol
not sure if this would be too close to a resprite sugg but in a convo a while back i remember someone talking about how bloody edge existing made no sense, because night's edge isn't a corruption weapon, but a hell tier weapon like dark lance. this got me thinking about how to fix bloody edge, and i realized a simple thematic solution while allowing the weapon to continue to exist is to make it an oathsword instead. not only are they also red and black, but they're hell themed, calamity added (since bedge is a calamity variant to an existing weapon, much the way the oathswords are a counterpart to typical hell weapons), and it honestly would make way more sense to make it an actual night edge variant instead of this weird crimson variant despite not thematically countering what nedge is
@valid shoal if it was a bug, #bugs-read-pins, but no, that is intentionally how it works.
@valid shoal you can repair the drive using the wulfrum controller summon
you will need to reformat your sugg for it to pass anyway
it not regenerating is intended
"Night's" is basically a sub-theme of Corruption
It's purple
It fits the name scheme of items like "Light's Bane" and "Waraxe of the Night"
night's edge is literally built out of a corruption item, with the crimson alt recipe added later
True NE has a bright green proj
it's totally corruption themed
"but Re-Logic said"
boohoo, they spat out a copout answer on why there's no vanilla alt to night's edge
in Calamity, Night's Edge is a corruption weapon
it was made along demon scythe and funny spear honestly
well calamity sucks
that easy iirc
I have had ideas for how to make Bloody Edge fit more alongside Night's Edge, with its own distinct theme
and it involved Terra Edge and Terratomere
also i think the green isn't meant to represent cursed flames as much (which also reminds me it does not inflict cursed flames for some forsaken reason and this discussion would not be happening if it did
state mandated flask usage
But we're waiting till vanilla 1.5 before we make any changes to Terra Edge
so we can see how Terra Blade changes
either way blood edge still sucks because what's the point of it existing if you can get both at the same time anyways
is 1.5 planned
this is why we need to bring back evil exclusives
it is not
probably
pretty sure the 1.5 thing is a joke
Whatever update Labor Of Love will be labelled as
because of how much 1.4.4 is adding
red is really the only one talking about 1.4.4 like it is 1.5
makes sense
anyways point made
mmmmm perhaps, perhaps
the graveyard biome be like
the graveyard evil biome recipes can go fuck themselves

i really dislike (vanilla) graveyard implementation
"kill yourself 7 times to craft this"
or the calamity implementation
"kill yourself 20 times to craft this"
the main problem is making star band corruption only ngl
i honestly think the game would have been cooler if designed around both evils being present in a world
terraria should've just made the world generate both evils on large to begin with
yeah
as much as i hate the crimson i agree
evil exclusives aren't as interesting as people say
it places such a small role in the game that it barely improves replayability and just serves to be annoying when you want a specific item
especially in vanilla when crimson is just better than corruption in basically every way
calamity is funny in that corruption is better in the late game due to buffing the mana flower and scope upgrades when used with putrid scent, and cursed flames reducing DR by 20%
so if you dont make use of the evil island ur always gonna be missing out on something
Then still kill bloody edge tbh
Because then it's just redundant to have two of the same weapons at the same tier
Isn’t this more of a problem of bloody edge not being distinct at all from night’s edge aside from some lifesteal
Anyways this isn’t even a sugg so I should prolly just drop it
@valid shoal just to let you know, someone basically already posted your sugg, just vote on that one and delete yours
yes and also i was trying to gage if i should suggest it so i think discussing it is okay, but from what im hearing there are already plans and also they're waiting til post 1.4.4
Indeed
Mkayyy
Thx
@simple fern they are already in the game
oops haven't looked too deep into the wiki
another day, another celestial onion suggestion
hey at least this one has the death 9th accessory slot bit which is somewhat unique... still not happening tho lmao
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its almost like it would be unbalanced
and they should just use wingslot or something
start digging
me when I have to actually WORK for my legendaries instead of just farming bosses 500 times

@hot zephyr herring staff balance
@velvet lynx what mode did you do it on?
yes
k
See, I think what a lot of people miss is that even with a pickaxe axe, mining pots and accessories, that finding them is still a pain. Me and a friend of mine have spent literally several hours searching for arsenal labs, and while we did find a few, only 2 of them actually contained sus scap, so we did work for it, it just didn't end up working out and trying to find all of the arsenal labs is something that dries out the patience of many for a non-guarenteed chance of even getting sus scrap in the first place. Having a way to find the labs easier would streamline the process so people can actually get the SHPC without feeling like they have to cheat it in.
I have yet to legitimately obtain the SHPC specifically because my patience wears thin after 5 hours of finding only 1-2 sus scrap
If the normal lab spawn rate is actually reasonable then it is finr yeah
The current situation is I create a new world, spawn full map vision and I have trouble finding more than 3 normal labs most of the time, and the spawn rate of scrap is not 100% on top of that
Which means most of the time you cant get enough scrap in a single world, and there is no way else tp get them
It's not worth me wasting 10+ hours to find them
@hollow shell any reason or feedback on why it got warned the suggestion
And it's not too hard to get
Balance suggestions are a ping testers thing
Just go to the layer you find the labs and dig a bunch
In one morning, I found like 10 labs
Did the newest patch (2.0.1) increased lab spawn rate?
I've played mage more than once, and every time I just cheat the scrap in after 5 hours of searching because I can't
It's not "easy", but it's a very reasonable thing
Because before that it was abyssmal
N O P E
Jungle, for example, is filled with labs
Would agree if I ever found more than 3
nowhere in the rules it says i cant suggest balance changes
In the jungle
Balance suggestion. You ping testers in this channel for that now. See tester list in pins
Should change the doc then rover
Sorry, the rules pin is outdated as fuck
ok.
The Dont's Doc is the real rules
Update the sugg history pin,.,
I fail to see how 5+ hours of mining for 1-2 scrap out of 5-6 labs is reasonable
I mean that's as anecdotal as him saying he found 10 is
For one, it's a legendary
And in that case... my experience was not really the same as yours
That's happened more than once to me neko
I got shpc in my mage playthrough, it didn't take more than 30 minutes
I had also found labs prior
I found 2 scrap in just like 3 hours, and keep in mind it was a mp world so a lot of labs were already looted
its kind of a waste of time when it is clearly already tested with video proof, the damn summon deals 30k damage a second at its peak, theres nothing to "test"
but whatever
@hot zephyr
The video isn't done with the control balancing uses
Don't be unnecessarily agressive i think
The thing is, is that you can find a bunch of labs, but
A: They aren't as easy to find as you claim sometimes
B: On large worlds (which is what calamity defaults too) it's a 33% to get a sus scrap, meaning you can find all the labs in the world and get completely fucked
That's more often than not that you aren't getting scrap
The main thing is you have to wait 2 weeks for balance suggestion to get through, while pinging testers is instant
In fact lemme just unpin the sugg rules right now
All of the points on it are redundant with Dont's
There, now the doc is at the top

Make the chance "guaranteed" or something
Store a variable of how many scraps exist and make always 4 spawn or something
herring on AS is probably an AS issue more of a fish issue (fishue)
And make the labs less annoying to find. The main labs are easier to find
Just make AS take 20% damage from herring
Done
Jk
I mean they're required to spawn a boss and, eventually, access yharim
well, just implement what other weapons already do, make it do 10% damage against worm bosses
what is this
unless it's something that got resprited and I forgot
other weapons already do that
That's not calamity
Dev wings?
yeah
FoodBarbarian's set are vanity developer items that can be obtained rarely (5% chance) from Treasure Bags dropped from Hardmode bosses (except Queen Slime's). It is the vanity set made for FoodBarbarian, one of the production assistants at Re-Logic.

its just early wings that are pretty much hardmode wings on prehm, pretty broken xd
i guess for the time being ill have to use a different summon or a different class so i dont cheese AS
Ye, since at the minimum it have to be patched in next patch
september patch I assume, unless that turn into november patch
a fish resist on AS sounds fine, although there's also whips that need to be dealt with first
whip issue (whipsue)
September patch won't be needed
Does whip still deal flat or % damage?
yeah, the tag damage greatly increases the damage of the herrings when dealing with AS
So it's either November or finally, whenever devs want to
Since the tooltip still say they are flat tag damage but I was told whip rebalance is already introduced
whip rebalance is far from being complete
Desolation.
if you want to test fish on AS, memes, that'd be great
Ok so memes is resident summoner, storm is rogue, xyk is melee
Who does mage and ranger
Ranger is Blast.
Not surprised
I have been doing mhage as of recently
You're still Rogue forever.
i will join the tester forces and become resident mage tester
Hadal Urn was not gonna balance itself
Wait no.
It fits my personality iirc
Pixl's mage resident.
Altix also occasionally helps
Oh right I keep confused cit with venus (for some reason) so I thought there is an atlantis enthusiast in tester team
tru
Also yeah i remember pixl's mage talks
But that doesn't mean there is only one resident for each class.
pixl and ein
it's more like storm, memes, and xyk are sigma testers that carry the rest of the team 
Piky has also done rogue (until I kind of took charge of it when I arrived)
altix and yuh also carry but they're just the ones who happen to have a bug magnet
Storm's on college, Xyk's on college, and I'm soon going to high school, what's going to happen?
Weekends have some time
red jumpscare
Hey dom can I beta test infernum
Tracking disk dies
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i take credit for complaining about the lack of whip autoswing
I will gladly accept your offer as a roommate
And I take credit for the lack of autoswing on all of 1.4's weapons.
No.
It's not a joke about being alone.
The other one's CrabBar.
crabber whip mode
The excel sheets
king of the spreadsheets
The power of math, spreadsheets and coffee.
But yeah, CrabBar's got... plans, for balancing summoner and whips.
I'm just helping him basically.
testerplans.png
Anyways, I think I've finally caught some sleepiness, I'm going to sleep now, good night.
Mythed crabbar mana rework
RogueChanges.docx

testerplans.png isn't real
it can hurt you.
And the one docx
just use a recolored devplans.png lol
Yeah but can you give me any of your. Txts?
TesterPlans.txt
Content: [REDACTED]
yeah
TesterPlans.txt
Content: wtf is a yo-yo
Speaking of testers plan
content: nothing
Terrarian eight trillion dps
Is flash round rebalance somewhere there?
Since I remember flash round being incredibly stupid
some of the ammo types ever
RogueBalance.txt
Hey Merk can you nerf [redacted] by changing [data expunged] to [redacted]
Appreciated and this weapon needs a fucking nerf
This
So, Malachite before you guys nerfed it to shit
Malachite before it was balanced and not “Nuke everything until DoG”
Also malachite was 4 values not just one
Yes, nerfed to shit was a joke
@wintry gale the two wings you suggested dont really connect to each other, probably just only leave fearmonger in
god slayer wing is planned, just waiting for a satisfiable sprite
currently the devs havent get a good sprite they are satisfied with yet which is why god slayer wing is still not a thing
it's so weird to me that they didnt like any of the current slayer options
truly one of the items of all time
tbh for me they should just make the item with an acceptable sprite and wait it there until a more suitable sprite comes
since currently people just kinda forgot and dont submit god slayer wings anymore
oh yeah
i just suggested that can be a "jetpack" because imo i think that godslayer design doesnt fit well with a wing, like vortex
anyway thx, its good to know that they're already working on something like that
ya god slayer will be jetpack iirc
DoG kite when 
mfw it's almost a year since they requested sprites for godslayer jetpack thing
god.
yes kings go make more elderberry sprites
correction, it has been 2 years
it was posted in 2020
meanwhile vanilla with elderberry food:
2 fuckin years and still no slayer wing sprite
tbh I liked the old HP/hearts sprite with cal hp upgrades more
the new one is a bit too vibrant, like too many colours mixing together
ill be honest idk how tf the art server works i tried to make a submission for it once and people were dicks to me and i never went there again but i saw the submissions and there were so many and idk how tf none of them passed
I think the bar hp display isn't affected by cal upgrades yet?
I haven't actually reached that point on my pt
I use the old one (as in the one that show hearts instead of a bar)
wow, gatekeeping
............
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so are you gonna remove the godslayer half of the sugg or
lmao idfk
either way I don't see why they shouldn't just
make the wing sprites by themselves first then apply the resprite when they actually got it
i wonder if i can find the submissons
probably quite double the effort but is it really worth holding an item in dev hell for over 2 years
I think the deal with art server is probably the same as this channel tbh
probably had to deal with too much troll submission
I think for that particular one iban did say the original spriter like, dont work on it anymore or something?
so it just ends there
oh so it doesnt loop correctly or something?
not sure, detail probably have to ask iban, I only remember it was talked about
i think the most annoying part of the booster sprite now is that iban also seems to be doing a rework to gs armor to coincide with the DoG resprite so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
bro spacer went offline and the god slayer part is still in the sugg
sad!
wut
i was mining auric ore 
LOL
xpc was saying, and i agree, that this should really be two suggs, and at that point, since god slayer pack is already planned, you could just make this about fearmonger
tbh post-ML needs more wings anyway
True
and angel treads needs a separate crafting branch that is all boots
tracers are kinda.....
yea...m
Make it more wing focused so people stop using tracers before celestial 
yep
and imo old duke wings needs a buff btw
in calval i think 
Ohhhh
That would make sense
Since folly has wings in calval that if you want to sacrifice a little damage for 30 flight time
That's not a joke
honestly tho a handful of calval wings would be really nice to see real implementation for
the tracer suggestion was already approved, just waiting for the soon™ actual implementation
tracer/boot line split
just forgot what i said.
this is the third time that i confuse calval content with calamity content 
doesnt fix the wing drought post ML regardless
it is somewhere in the devplans.png, meaning it will get implemented before year 2050
just like the combo mining and building accs!!
@stiff dagger why
you could... not pick it up?
if you dont want to use the reaver shark skip, just dont fish it up
because it's a progression skip, as someone who hosts multiplayer runs, people will do it even if you don't allow it
it is not exactly something you just find from naturally generated gold chest
there's a reason vanilla nerfed it
seems like a disciplinary issue
that is, in fact, the point
calamity made is so progression skip is an option to play the game, it rely on you and your team to come to coordination if they dont want to use it
and the tldr of the skip is pretty much just post-evil 1 boss
it is less blatant than something like fighting aquatic scourge before wof but it more or less has the same effect
doing something to progression skip slightly
yes, not everyone is capable of enforcing that
well
get better friends
you can go to singleplayer
cheat in god slayer slugs, then use a gun that converts bullets
and then go to multiplayer and disguise an incredibly op weapon and no one is able to bat an eye
you can try this as a social experiment and you can easily get away with it blaming the weapon being op
I know that, Honestly it isn't the biggest issue, it just doesn't really make sense why it was unnerfed
I'll make this clear, I know how to use multiplayer moderation, I tend to have hero's mod on runs with randos to prevent people from bringing in cheats
without cheating myself of course
it was unnerfed because otherwise the early game benefits outweigh the efforts to get reaver shark
that's probably fair, not a game ruiner
and it skips something not too major considering the pre-hardmode power curve in mind
and more so that usually you have to deliberately get it, it is not something you just run into
you have to fish in ocean with the intent of getting reaver shark and use it to do progression skip, at that point it is similar to recall abuse/nurse abuse where if they really want to do it it should be on intention
are there even useful fishing catches in the ocean early game 
yes, but calamity literally gives a way to prevent that
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Frog leg and sailfish boots
from experience you get fish, fish, fish, fish, the occasional crate at the chance of never
recall abuse and nurse abuse is, in fact, not prevented in non-death mode
frog leg when it feels like it (crafting with frogs is better)
in fact they just removed recall abuse prevention, you can use recall now in bosses
I will really like the recall thing to still be part of death mode anti-cheese, but ya it is their decision
I sometimes feel like recall could be like when you accidentally trigger a boss
I'm surprised it was removed from deaths anti cheese tbh
like anahita
Fair enough
and i guess abyssal amulet exists but that's kinda not ocean
yeah I do that.
If you want to despawn something you accidentally triggered
To be fair, it's something so minor I can live with calamity reverting the reaver shark nerf
Considering I mainly play on death mode anyways
It's a nice thing to be able to do if you want
kinda wished the 145th entry in the latest changelog had to do with that
the reaver shark nerf is unlikely to be removed since it is done intentionally
Yeah
Anything progression skip that's in the game is not getting removed
Hell, if you're extremely good, you could try and kill Yharon after defeating dragonfolly
the only one is like meteor not getting revert I think
at some point it was to become pre-evil 1 again, but they didnt do it
yeah, calamity has some bizarre ways of progression skipping that I find add to it rather than take away
I never got the meteor change since you can find meteor bars in gold chests that are near hell anyways
like aquatic scourge technically being beatable pre hardmode
the base-stat changes mostly exist for mod compatibility
Am I the only one who doesn't get it?
meteor bars is a calamity thing I think? and the nerf was vanilla
just this time calamity didnt revert it
Official terraria wiki
It's a terraria thing
wait what that is a terraria thing?
Yeah
I guess I just never found it
I didn't either until one of my more recent pts
But it's apparently a vanilla thing
Question.
does yharon require moonlord to be defeated to spawn
Nope
Then you can fight him at hardmode.
you can defeat yharon with pre-ML gear
Yeah
source: I made it up
But really can you
My source is that I made it the fuck up
tbh, yes
Yes
has anyone ever did that before
even on master death mode because I am the one that done it
And the answer on how: Terraprisma
I need to see this
if not, I will do it myself
cuz this idea sounds funny as fuck
@stiff dagger it will benefit the suggestion if you have an image attached tbh
since reading it now I am confused as to where it is placed
I'll attach it after my slowmode goes off
I think you cant attach image to suggestion after it is posted, so you need to repost the entire suggestion iirc
either discord moment or server setting
it is only doable in death iirc, at least the method I did
Only through links but yea
yeah ik, still need to wait on slowmode
if you actually attack yharon then you can do it in any difficulty, but for completely not attacking it must be on death (dont have to be master)
since SP1 yharon don't do big bullet hell so it dont deal damage to itself in Rev, on Death it skip SP1 and start at SP2
Hmm
hey rover
have there been plans for the arsenal furniture?
or is it just a missed oversight
I have yet to see anything concrete for arsenal furniture nor has it really been mentioned outside of sugg channels
i was planning on making some, but then i realised that asesprite costs 20 euros which i dont have
You don't need Aseprite to do spritework, of course
Literally any program more advanced than MS Paint will work (cuz you need transparency support)
@ashen warren
#suggestions-posting message
refer to formatting on above suggs
also can't you just
wait until Chaos State expires to use the potion at all?
maybe if you're doing a hardcore run don't use teleportation potions, there are already tons of risks to them, like lava and bee hives and stuff
that is way too specific
also this is can be entirely avoided by not being impatient
just dont have chaos state when you are using teleportation potion, it is not that hard
the actual argument will be that teleporting into abyss will drown you instantly, which can also be countered by amidias blessing
you just have to be like, prepared for hardcore
and besides, being teleported into the abyss isn't that common
at least in my experience which was just using ~100 tp potions to find the temple
i got teleported into the sulphurous sea but never abyss
keep it for the funny
@hot forum why though, when old duke is
- funnier
- a better descriptor
and also you have no reasoning and improper formatting, so the sugg won't go through
joke suggestion is not allowed
Dukie nukie is far superior tbh
Duke Nukem would have a joke about this
teleportation potions shouldn't put you in abyss in a first place
imagine using it in hc run lol
I wonder, which calamity bosses have a special death animation, i know DOG, yharon, and providence has one, anything else?
Yea those too
Slime god core
I kinda want to make a list of the bosses and what i think their death animation could be
For example
Crabulon no longer glowing and falls apart
that's very likely going into specific grounds if you wanna suggest them
Then i can just suggest more death animations?
Because i think its one of the best visual things the mod has
Spawn and death animations are in the Dont's doc under the "Frequently Suggested" section
Cuz
it was suggested all the time
@open meadow it's essentially making vanilla thrower weapon rogue: no.
check the don'ts doc again
Watch yo tone mf, also its a play on duke nukem, also you know nukes, the bombs of radiation ???
@eternal escarp yes
how about you read the damn rules? 🤨
mmm yeah we will not change the damage class of a vanilla weapon
We'll edit balance but we won't straight-up move them to another class
However that bit about Metal Monstrosity does sound funky and you could suggest that get fixed (we could use a custom proj instead of vanilla spiked balls)
Okay thanks for the clarification, I will do that
Done and adjusted
Thanks Sketch 
💖
Oh god I misinterpreted that title
I thought you were suggesting to make AotA a direct upgrade to Starfury and have Fractured Ark be standalone
Yeah
cause that one actually has stars
well
it would insta controdict my point
it has no wind blade
it simply is
e sword
- gel
make ark
Already in Storm Ruler also would lose the gravity effect
man i forgot that thing existed lmao
i was just trying to find another sword that could replace starfury, but ig it really do just be an upgraded esword at the end of the day
it just got a cool resprite
Speaking of starfury I remember isnt there a weapon that use arkhalis/terragrim only?
I thought that one should use enchanted sword too since terragrim is now uncraftable
And cosmic elemental spawn rate in hardmode is abyssmal
used to be i think
oh wait nvm
found it
The Devil's Sunrise is a craftable post-Moon Lord melee weapon that is a direct upgrade to the Arkhalis. While being swung, white blurred slashes will appear in the direction of the mouse, creating an illusion that the sword itself is being swung very quickly. Any enemies that are hit by the slashes will take damage and are inflicted with the Br...
dono 
Oh god it is always dono moment
uhhhhhh make it an upgrade to omniblade instead ez
Isnt arkhalis used to be craftable? At the very least the same can be done on terragrim at least
uhhhhhh... i thought u were right but i literally cannot find any evidence of this on the wiki
btw that used to be a rogue weapon

ok so ur wrong
The Devil’s Sunrise is a craftable post-Moon Lord melee weapon that is a direct upgrade to the Arkhalis. While being swung, white blurred slashes will appear in the direction of the mouse, creating an illusion that the sword itself is being swung very quickly. Any enemies that are hit by the slashes will take damage and are inflicted with the Br...
here's the oldest version of that page
still melee
from 2019
which is now removed
quest to find yatagarasu and lompl allimath to make their dono weapons less awful
(cosmic shiv and devil's sunrise)
3 yatagarasus...,.
oh hey lompl is actually still here
now im trying to figure out if it would actually make sense to replace terragrim with omniblade... it's the only weapon i can think of with a similar attack style. or i guess make it esword alt since it does shoot a projectile anyway
wait it shoots a like... flamelash style orb 
this weapon is so confusing
again
donor item
@hollow shell
sis
and a pretty clear one at that
You know you can tell it to the suggestor itself first
@surreal raven specific item suggestions are dissallowed, i would refer you to the document pinned here
why would there be fun 
cause ORDER is fun
Huh, didnt know that
sorry then'
it happens, dont worry
fun fact I am actually pro anarchy
I mean, it will save the moderators work if the suggestion are removed instead of having mods being pinged everytime
yes so before i ping the donor i want to figure out what i want to ask them
who's gonna tell him what if something is in recipe it doesn't mean it should have it's properties
and by that you need to find two enchanted swords
i mean
yeah but like
why not
@real crane wrong format
also you probably just had a dodge ready to go
also doesn't this count as a bug report if he didnt have a dodge?
and if adren didnt get lost on hit, that would ruin the fun lol
sigma male more like Ligma male
what is that sugg even
the joke is that they're lame
it is a suggestion i guess
This is why all suggestions should be phrased as commands, not statements
(satisfying to see that all other suggs in posting rn have commanding action verbs as the first word, as well as very many of the suggs in voting)
@hollow shell Yeah, just want to run by you, while using the Metal Monstrosity, this happened
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(not really bug as much as, questionable design choice)
the fact it was on a ranged accessory was always a bit weird to me lol
ranger is just too cool i guess
Reply ping (opinion invalidated)
i swore stopwatch used to have a recipe with a timer from the mechanic or something didnt it
It may have been another QOL mod, because I remember something similar
nope. for stopwatch and lifeform analyzer it's just the traveling merchant.
Buff Art Attack
I'm gonna have to be blunt for this one but this weapon is so bad I would still consider it unusable if it's damage was increased by 5x or if it was moved to pre-hardmode. I can barely keep a consistent 225+ dps against a target dummy where other weapons on sooner tiers (like SHPC or Frost Staff) can easily maintain 1600+ dps. The charging ability of the weapon is useless because it takes over four seconds to charge and only rewards you with 2.3x damage and you can draw circles much faster than two seconds.
For reference I was using Daedalus armor and wings, sorcerer emblem, celestial emblem, all menacing, magic power, rage, wrath, crystall ball, and mythical reforges for testing
Another problem with this weapon is the enemy has to be on screen and it takes so much more focus to draw consistent circles on an enemy than it does to just click on them. This weapon is harder to use yet still deals so much less damage then weapons on earlier tiers
I hate to be so down on this weapon because it's such a unique concept but in it's current form it's simply unusable.
Oh, well cool then
We know it's bad.
We know it's been bad even before release.
But nobody wants to bother balancing it.
sugg kidna mid ngl
:peeptohink:
like idk if just having another minion acc is that interesting
like its kinda like , like, fungal clump but right before
^this tbh tbh
more interesting than random stat increases at least
would make sense for the crown jewel to do what the crown jewel actually does
yea but iuno
maybe its a sonic ring accessory since atm the main thing it does is a "on hit" thing
well not fully but yea
like u get hit > u blurb out into multiple Royalle Gel chunks that bouncea round before sticking to the ground, and you can collect them to gain a short burst of hp regen slightly
that would be cool
iban coming up with a good way to revamp an accessory 0.5 seconds after someone points out a problem with it
and as always its inspred by some other piece of media
i mean its just a random idea mabe it sucks
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Deploy the rover
Magical Conch is already renamed anyways
it is?
[[Magical Conch]]
oh nice
honestly might as well include both Magic and Demon Conches
oh wait
demon conch has a recipe?
hm
yea
1 demonic bone ash and 4 hellstone bars at a hellforge
ah
magic conch is super easy to find already
demon conch has a recipe because hell fishing has a really annoying wait time for no reason
im playing calamity in revengeance mode as mage and i cant beat the destroyer. any tips?
thats my armor and stuff
Wrong channel for this
#calamity-mod-talk or #help-advice-read-pins probably suits better
Im here to suggest a new miniboss i was thinking of the old yharon sprite and what if there was a miniboss similar to giant clam (kinda) it would first spawn when plague bringer is killed a toxic hummingbird will spawn killing it will summon (Insert-Name)'s plauge form ot would be a reasonable step up then when yharon is killed the hummingbird will be on fire killing it now will summon its stronger variation it would be a harder yharon with more bullet hell type stuff i dont know if it would work well but i find it a cool idea
miniboss/boss idea is disallowed for suggestion, too much work and too big of a decision
while people tend to not focus too much on miniboss, they are still a big addition to the mod
and from the idea you say, that doesn't sound like a miniboss considering it is "harder yharon"
@real crane
An ❗ imo
no explanation why, no variants.
Adrenaline is already busted with it going off after getting hit
If you will make so then you will HAVE to make all bosses' hp pool giant as every boss rn will die swiftly if you will get +200% damage every 30 seconds
I think the suggestion is only dont deplete if the bar is already full
@proud quest #bugs-read-pins
but ya, no reason no explanation, and contrast with the design of the bar
if you get hit then it's your fault (about adren sugg)
that is not a bug as to my knowledge, in fact it had persist for patches now
if you make so it doesn't deplete after being full then you have absolutely no reason to save it up
and it is not players' fault, because when you are dodging grid laser you cannot dodge having devourer inside you at the same time, grid laser requires you to be static
i cant fix that with that channel?
(oh right that sounding makes much sense)
I dont think that is a bug anyway
otherwise it would had been fixed already, since it already exist few patches ago
probably more of an oversight, since death mode teleport is faster, and the slower teleport in revengeance make it have hitbox before the teleport is complete
ye shit is wack
and ya calamity is unlikely to add music for vanilla bosses
suggestions have to be formatted in a certain way for the bot to read them
especially considering how much work you need to put into the music, vanilla boss music already existing, and of course unofficial calamity mod music exist
add music
for anything but those that calamity already add music to, aka calamity bosses
so basically unofficial calamity music mod add music for everything but calamity music
including vanillas
it is still a work in progress, not all vanilla bosses already have music, but many of them do
what does overpowered even mean in this context
so true
it means that the person has a skill issue
od maybe instead?
if its od(d) then it would be contradictory to the sugg i think

or if its od as in, old duke then it wouldnt fit
i think its just another case of people thinking op means cool or good in any sense whatsoever
calamity having music is game-breakingly overpowered tbh
This is what I think the suggestion might have meant? Byeah it’s most likely just people being really bad and OP losing it’s meaning
wulfrum blunderbuss are overpowered against green slime
that said speaking of wulfrum blunderbuss, I am doing a new pt to find things to complain make suggestion about, is wulfrum stuff intentionally weaker than most things you can craft?
since from my current experience they are weaker than even musket
this also makes no sense for the sugg tbh tbh
wdym "even" musket? musket is nuts
(also why does undertaker not have point blank shot)
i havnt compared blunderbuss to other weapons when i personally requested balance changes to it, i mostly checked if it was on the estimated killtime
with that said, i did have shark tooth necklace there, which may have slightly skewed results to some of the weapons
but i currently used blunderbuss in a playthrough
I thought minishark was the ceiling so I compared to musket instead, but ya
ye I think shark tooth necklace changed alot, probably a solid ~30% dps boost
i could recheck them on public without a necklace, but i think the wulfrum gear is fine as it currently stands
considering it is much easier to get with things like Wulfrum Lure
Something that’s always bothered me (and the concept of balance as a whole reminded me) is how piercing is treated against worm bosses
oh right I have master mode on
no wonder wulfrum stuff do nothing against goblin army
I thought calamity removed master mode scaling on normal enemy for some reason so I opted for master
It feels like 90% of the time in Cal piercing weapons are nerfed into the ground against specifically worm bosses, to the point where non-piercing weapons are like. viable on them when it seems like it SHOULD be expected to use piercing weapons on something like EoW.
Might be talking out of my ass though.
I think jester arrow are still very useful for like EoW
although there is the case of flash round casually making musket extremely good against worm
definitely not
flash rounds
osg
unless it's like a dog type boss where there's a singular weak point
just casually 1/5 the kill time from 1:22 to 0:26 on musket with flash round vs silver bullet
flash round and luminite arrow are probably among the most stupid ammo just because of how they amplify damage
pierce weapons are still definitely the best option against every worm boss (except for dog where it doesn't really matter obviously) idk wym
also I feel rover drive is certified goated
imagine if there is an accessory that says "You have +67(expert)/75(master) defense against the first hit taken every 10 seconds"
that is dodge on steriod for most of HM, and only is really weaker/not worth in post-ML
@wintry gale this probably count for it already?
ennway music pack >>>>>>>>> unofficial calamity mod music
not being ported iirc
my take: just dont use the recon scope
destroyer emblem is quite litterally the same accessory without the scope 🚎
good take
that is a completely different thing
now you removed it and my response has no context 
i delete that cause if known contects it counts as rage bait
remember that one?
when I tried to remove mirrors i-frame dodge
(cause it's op as fuck
)
blast just cos you used rifle cope on scal doesnt mean you get to have opinions 
(although that being said
(i agree with you
))
irrelevant to my point tbh iirc ngl 
ur dark pink so ur invalid 🙄
I think green and red names are invalid instead 
i think anything but white names are invalid
if i had not put the word names in that it could have been taken really out of context 
i should trust pumplerneedsabuff221...
blast can you get me hired for being a tester
no
my qualifications are that there are none
Sounds great I’m in
you have been qualified to be unhired
🦑
holy shit
No way.
kek
wait is this eclipse alt

Had to do it
Bruh.
now you are forever stucked with pumperneedsabuff221
fuck you eclipse you made me laugh mid class
and teach noticed
anyways do NOT buff pumpler
L
(this is when I switch to my alt and say DO buff pumpler)
anyways I agree with the suggestion(s)
no you arent supposed to grrrrrrrrr
not dark pink + lime green name + bad emote iirc
I definetly do like that sugg, those accesories are really useless.
maybe wait a bit
tester colour is dark pink? I always thought it is darkish red
so true
I don't know what this color is.
it's calamity colored
i said NOT calamity style
What is the meme behind "Calamity Style"? I'm still relatively new in this community.
That's probably an AI generated name, anyways.
i'd fill you in but i dont remember the exact happenings
but something about a sprite being submitted somewhere and then being rejected because "i said NOT calamity style" i think
no way
there was also a suggestion about a config to replace the cal sprites with ''vanilla style'' ones which I associate to the meme
there may be multiple sources for the gag
"Sorry I don't like your art can you redraw everything into my subjective better style?"
Calamity style is real
a bit silly and scrumfy idea, would replacing decrypted "encrypted schematics" with Draedon's Log relevant to the decrypted info cause problems?
the schematics are one time use as far as I understood
I've absolutely no idea what you mean
but,
They already work like this
You can already use them to see their decryption text like a log
Turn schematics into another item like the decrypted schematic from sunken sea
yeah, just to go full-on I guess
That's what pizza meant i think
the schematics are still having "Encrypted" in their name despite already being decrypted
and despite not being a Draedon's Log you can already use it like one, though I did assume that removing the schematic somewhere during or after decryption could cause problems
I don't think changing it's sprite to a log one is a good idea it could confuse players
And they already have a screen anyway
hmm, fair
Idk if you can change their name to be decrypted schematic
change their name to Smth Schematic
And have it say encrypted/decrypted in the tooltip
like arsenal or draedon schematic
that's what I'm sayin
I know this isn't a bug but these two fish have identical descriptions
Should I like, send this in the suggestion?
Idk if it's even necessary/relevant
just send it I think?
it really depend on how much you (personally) care about item description tbh
Time for it to get morbillion stars
chaotic fish having that description may be a bug considering it both has no horns ans is a grabbag fish
nope that is
very much intended
it actually got the horn tooltip before it even dropped chaotic essense or whatever the hell the craigs souls are
The Chaotic Fish is a rare fishing catch caught in lava in the Brimstone Crag. It currently has no use apart from selling for money.
that... does sound chaotic
all the unobtainable useless fish probably were copypasted en masse until they got use
(these fish used to do nothing other than cash)
well then I guess it's not so important to change them then
rev/death are aditions ontop of the regular terraria difficulties so itd make no sense for them to be above
and classic doesnt make sense to be included either since its already downbelow
rather cringe worldgen option when the Devs Added an awesome new interface just for this exact purpose
the fact vanilla terraria difficulties are locked at world gen kinda dumb kinda stupid tbh fr
you would need to select one anyways. that's like saying you shouldnt have classive listed before expert and master
it's a hypothetical. I just made what i could. It's not perfect
rather cringe when why not both lmao
Maybe
sugg didnt say anything about deleting the current UI
But it's kinda redundant
i did the best i could
what if : ppl want to change diffiuclties
yknow a way to gen a world in a cal difficulty would be nice
personally i just thought it would be hard to implement something like that
that way u dont have to go and change it after the world gens immediately
Mm
what's the point of
a
the current UI element in game for cal difficulty suffices
personally I would've loved if it's a more gridlike approach instead of dropdown, but that's a minor nitpick
(Probably should have copied the bunny icons, not the globe icons)
(not just cuz of the icons themselves but also cuz the further difficulties should really be below the main ones)
I would go as far as making them hidden until combat starts
you can already damage enemies by yourself thru wh*ps or Cnidarian early on
might as well make minions completely hidden until you hit an enemy or they hit you
ozza i guess liked my idea
So I've been trying to think of ideas and I've had 2 but I personally think they suck.
I had a idea where the Cnidreon could be a mini boss that's been reworked but I think that's not allowed as a suggestion.
Another idea I had was for a whip to be added that could be obtained extremely early on, before leather whip essentially.
Do these suck or should I post them?
I'm new to the server btw
read the rules in the pins
The second one abides by rules, I'm just asking if they suck as ideas
the first I'm not sure
also if i remember correctly iban already has plans to rework cnidrion anyway
new cnidrion graves and such
cnidrion changes are planned yes
Wait, how so? I'm confused
Where are you all getting this info, is it just his twitter page?
#calamity-update-talk message
#calamity-update-talk message
also just looking for messages from iban with images should be enough
Sometimes devs to give some of these infos here when discussion happen/suggestion related to the topic
Specific Item Suggestions.
But maybe I'm wrong, but even if I was, we doubt we'll add any whips in the next... year or so?
gotta balance the existing ones first
We still have a lot of work to do with Vanilla whips.
A lot of work.
Adding a new whip would make things worse, sorry.
He can suggest new items get added
SIS is mainly about execution
meant to reply to this
A whip could get added to the Starter Bag or made out of Gel or something, earlier than Zoologist
if supported by reasoning why it would benefit summoner to have instant whip access
I mean, the squirrel kinda sucks early game since you're starting with a sentry and not a minion, so killing stuff, even wulfrum enemies, takes time and is a pain
Having a weak whip to support it would be beneficial for early game
I was gonna mention finch staff but it needs the merchant 
LOL
and slime staff needs 40 gel sooooo
But like, your other whip options are:
Leather, which isn't cheap and requires bestiary completion which can be hard when you can't hit a bat
Snap thorn, which is suicide to try for with a squirrel
I don't think a whip really fits for the early-early game
HOWEVER
a tagging weapon would still be nice
Yeah
summon stick
it's just a shortsword that deals summon damage but has a really long tagging range
like ur pointing at the enemy to direct the minions so it doesnt deal damage but you can still hit stuff with it
there u go
in all honesty tho that aint too important, just ask for some kind of early game summon option other than squirrel squire
bug net is craftable with copper and cobwebs lmao
Hell, finch instead of squirrel would be miles better
im glad squirrel squire exists cause calamity's sentry selection is 
and while it is better than vanilla's it still aint great
but yeah for the starter bag finch would be way better
just add squirrel to staff recipe ez
Post-DoG sentries be like; I don't exist
not true
we got uh
Perdition is a post-Moon Lord sentry that drops from Supreme Calamitas. When used, a floating beacon sentry follows the player around. When an enemy is targeted via right-clicking with most summon weapons, a cross appears on the marked target, a large area lights up with fire dust, and various types of homing souls appear from below.
this thing i guess
wait this follows the player
well it still uses sentry slots so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ah yes
Sentry but not sentry
Let me just use carrion until post-scal
i remember carrion was really strong so i didnt think that was too much of a stretch, but yeah, a few more options wouldnt hurt
Carrion is anything but good for DoG and Yharon
sad!
I just skip old Duke as summoner
Since there is no reason to fight it since carrion is bad and the other accessories aren't the greatest
this dude got 2 summoner drops and they both suck ass
god i hope the DoG rework comes soon
And two ranger drops that are both not as good as the ranger drop from a miniboss in the event itself
what, you dont like septic skewer? 
SAC does way to much to DoG and I love it
i still havent tried it out myself cause i found bloodworms and first tried old duke and managed just fine with blood boiler, but SAC has been a funny haha on DoG for... a long damn time
wait what the fuck this thing homes now??
Old Duke imo has one great drop, 2 good but not amazing drops, and the others suck
wow
crafting!!! i love crafting!!!! who needs to have progression locks on items when you can just craft them :)
tho tbf in this case i
Lmaooooo
dont really give a shit

bug net really should just be given to you at the start
True!
as you know being able to pick up squirrels is just too strong early game tho 
Let me catch worms from the get go
PFFFFFFFFFFFFF
And bunnies
you can throw them at enemies and pretend they're that one fargo's item that explodes
oh dynamite bunnies are a funny haha but that's more a demolitionist thing anyway so
idk maybe if ur playing in exactly ftw bug net is busted but
it's ftw
yknow we talk about donor items a lot and im starting to wonder if there should just be some kinda chart like how we have testers listed in pins to contact these people cause so many of the weapons are ass
unless the donor for a certain item is long gone from this server :hdflr:





