suggestions-discussion

[swift wharf]

you kill the visuals

zenith becomes a boomerang

[ashen warren]

I also know

sadly relogic didn't care about the mechanics of the what now become the mascot weapon that much

but it's concept is very cool compered to most vanilla weapons

[gray nebula]

shut the fucl ip

zenith is fucking awesome

wahh wahh its smple wahh it should have complicated mechanics or else it sucks

shut ip

it looks cool and feels cool to use

= its good

[ashen warren]

I said it's simple but very cool

[gray nebula]

exactly

i was talking abt the otehrs

[ashen warren]

so we are in agreement, right m8?

[gray nebula]

probably

[swift wharf]

sorry iban but first fractal is cooler

[ashen warren]

there is a mod that combine them both

the mod that add the cooler sword effect

[swift wharf]

anyways if the weapon is good to use keep as it is

lol

[fossil bronze]

both of them suck (m*lee weapons

[swift wharf]

melee slander

🍷

[drowsy plank]

zenith is fine, but this idea that it's somehow more important for any reason or deserves some kind of special treatment when aotc is right there is ridiculous

they're both cool swords just leave them alone

@zealous pecan that's a good suggestion but you need to add a title

[zealous pecan]

Oh alright sorry

Also what does the compression emoji means?

[sleek turret]

your suggestion needs proper formating

[zealous pecan]

K then, i added a title to it

[sleek turret]

so like it's

[Title]

[Text]

[zealous pecan]

Yeah alright

[frosty trellis]

@naive widget already being worked on

[blazing imp]

are there any plans to fix crabulon cheese

[inner anvil]

He's not passive anymore until you hit him.

So I guess that can be considered as a fix?

[radiant meadow]

I didn't know that happened lol

[frail mantle]

i think sprites have been made but they haven't been coded in yet

[bright crag]

That would be really weird
Because they'd supposedly see nohitters use Zenith for nohits too...?

[hot zephyr]

what xpcqe is taking about is that a lot of people judge the standards of weapons by comparing them with the most optimal damage focused setups

[crude geode]

I'm convinced that 90% of players of cal don't actually know how to test weapons properly and just watch random youtubers

[inner anvil]

This is most likely correct.

[unborn oriole]

This is almost 100% correct*

[swift wharf]

That is correct

[frosty trellis]

It's definitely correct

I've asked how to properly test weapons so I could see myself if my conceptions were wrong or not

[swift wharf]

this is why we should kill nohitting

[hot zephyr]

i'm convinced half of the suggestion populace do not play calamity period, I wonder how many mobile/console only people exist on the discord

[swift wharf]

a good amount from what I've seen

[frosty trellis]

Probably

[drowsy plank]

considering the number of people who asked about the april fool's mobile port

too many

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

[swift wharf]

a lot of ppl suggest features that already exist

[frosty trellis]

Think that has died down a bit but we see it yeah

[swift wharf]

byeah

[swift wharf]

this

[frosty trellis]

Also a lot of people can't read

The damned doc

[swift wharf]

yeah like

99%

[frosty trellis]

I read the doc many times over before I ever made a suggestion

And didn't get flagged for it

Gee, I wonder why

[swift wharf]

[novel belfry]

@timid talon , please give a reason for the sugg. (And make your current sugg as its title)

[swift wharf]

amazing suggestions

[minor shell]

no way he actually did it

he actually did it

[fossil finch]

nudity jumspacre

[minor shell]

hes been on about that in help and advice

for like an hour

[fossil finch]

has he?

[minor shell]

he actually fucking did it

yes

[fossil finch]

lmfao

[minor shell]

he wanted to know if there was a way to suggest to the creator to toggle nudity

and i told him

this is the funniest thing ever

[fossil finch]

anyways it's getting shot down

[unborn oriole]

LMAOOOOO

HE DID IT

[timid talon]

alright

[unborn oriole]

@tidal wigeon BRO LOOK AT THIS

HE DID IT

[fossil finch]

accessibility is cool and everything but i'm not sure there's much of an argument regarding accessibility when it comes to this

[tidal wigeon]

Lmaoooooooo

[fossil finch]

she'll get resprited eventually™️ anyway

[tidal wigeon]

Bro is delusional

[unborn oriole]

He was arguing about brimmy's tiddys

Then became the most accurate representation of a Christian Steriotype

[tidal wigeon]

Literally

[jolly narwhal]

Better not tell him about the big tiddy goblin mod

[swift wharf]

I need the message link for the start of this

[tidal wigeon]

It was like an hour ago

[ashen warren]

its pretty long

[unborn oriole]

I gotchu bro

Gimme a minute or 2

[swift wharf]

🍸

[ashen warren]

search inappropriate in chat and see the message right b4 i send the brimstone pic of her respite

on mobile rn so cant link

[minor shell]

no dice

[ashen warren]

cuz we r a bit off topic lol

[swift wharf]

yea

[minor shell]

oh you meant in help advice

thought you meant here lmfao

[ashen warren]

yeah lol

[frosty trellis]

Sees the Calclone dash suggestion
It's not that fast? A decent pair of wings and ornate shield has let me do it just fine

[swift wharf]

The tone of the suggestion makes it sound like a skill issue

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

Even on Death Mode I've never really found it that much of an issue

Just fly and dash

[unborn oriole]

#help-advice-read-pins message

[minor shell]

i used soc on her lol

[frosty trellis]

And slimy saddle occationally

[minor shell]

worked fine

[frosty trellis]

SOC works

I just like the longer dash and ram from ornate

[minor shell]

tbh i had forgotten about ornate shield

[frosty trellis]

And the effects while wearing Daedalus armor

[minor shell]

and, like i said, soc worked fine

[unborn oriole]

Ornate shield my beloved ♥️

[frosty trellis]

SOC works fine yeah

Just saying what I prefer

[swift wharf]

Aren't the swords supposed to be like that instead of working like other melee weapons

So people have to put effort into using them

I've seen two suggestions like this but I don't think they got anywhere

[frosty trellis]

They didn't yeah

[swift wharf]

(Fortunately)

[frosty trellis]

Old Lords isn't an issue bc you aren't using it close range for the true melee attack anyways

Bladecrest I just despise because of it

Flamarang is so much easier to use and shreds

[jagged fiber]

I elaborated a little bit more on my suggestion

[swift wharf]

I have never seen a single person quitting because of that

[unborn oriole]

Me neither

Tbh just ignore it

Or don't fight the boss

[swift wharf]

This, but unironically

[unborn oriole]

Even better yet

Play Vanilla

[swift wharf]

sand elemental:

[unborn oriole]

Oh nvm

[swift wharf]

[unborn oriole]

Empress of light has a slighly female body

My argument has been invalidated

[swift wharf]

:explosion:

[unborn oriole]

Oh no, Dryad exists

[fossil finch]

Reminder piss book exists

[unborn oriole]

His problem is with tits

[unborn oriole]

And i have proof

[fossil finch]

yeah

What would the config even do

[unborn oriole]

Idk

Change sprites for a single enemy

[swift wharf]

configs are a don't now btw

[unborn oriole]

🤯

[oblique geyser]

The remove perennial suggestion is not good

Reaver armor is amazing

Movement based armor

[unborn oriole]

@jagged fiber

[swift wharf]

[fossil finch]

I mean they could argue that,

However!

At this point there really should just

[small timber]

I mean this particular suggestion really can only be resolved through config

[small timber]

Reaver are gonna get rework instead anyway so the suggestion is (unlikely) to go through

[fossil finch]

Yea it's asking for a configuration

[drowsy plank]

brimmy has a planned resprite anyway so i really

do not get this

[swift wharf]

nobody does

[fossil finch]

Rover should just resolve

[swift wharf]

this community is filled with horny teenagers anyway it's gonna get 4 stars

[fossil finch]

again there's definitely an argument

But,
Is it a good one

At all?

i don't think

[swift wharf]

just ummm butcher the boss I think

[frosty trellis]

Idc about the brim ele sprite

[safe oasis]

i like how this suggestion focuses on brimstone elemental and ignores literally every other elemental

[fossil finch]

Also I'd be interested in the story of the sad man who quit their pt because brimstone elemental

[frosty trellis]

And while I'm not the most happy about a more "degenerate sprite", why is it a cause of people to leave the game?

[fossil finch]

It's not

I don't think it has ever been

[swift wharf]

a sprite making people not play terraria
pretty based 🍸

[safe oasis]

if brimmy made someone leave calamity they're biased because sand elemental is in vanilla terraria

[small timber]

Usually I would had agree with suggestion like this, but ya, cal is really like, not high on nudity in the first place

[fossil finch]

Also t for teen allows for booba shape technically speaking it's not nudity if there's no

[safe oasis]

fun fact you can see booba shape outside!!

[swift wharf]

it's literally bias because there are 2 earlier elementals

cloud and sand

[fossil finch]

Anyways if there's anything questionable in calamity it's definitely more cirrus than

This

[swift wharf]

ok but

cirrus is useful

[fossil finch]

also cirrus has vanilla precedent anyway

So really it's just trippy?

[swift wharf]

suggestion posting moment

[fossil finch]

Yea

Anyways rover should resolve it and decide whether it dies here or in voting anyway

[swift wharf]

ya

[frosty trellis]

Fair enough

Let it die in voting so more people can make fun of it

(I'm joking if you couldn't tell)

[cobalt pewter]

no one did it yet so

[undone cedar]

Amazing roverdrive quote

[cobalt pewter]

legendary, if you will

[undone cedar]

I think people approach a playthrough as something they do super quickly, very over and done, and the actual length of the game comes from doing a lot of different playthroughs

[cobalt pewter]

obvious from the fact that everyone just wants literally every single thing in a single world

hence why evil islands ain't anything close to be removed yet

[worn dagger]

DoG already have plenty of ways to tell you if he'll charge at you while flying or not

Either look at the bg color to indicate his phase

Or the debuff

[frosty trellis]

Ehhh, I would disagree with Rev since DoG is incredibly unpredictable on rev, but in Death yeah absolutely, almost too predictable

[worn dagger]

wdym by unpredictable?

[frosty trellis]

I am liking the idea of a wing enchantment though.

[alpine scarab]

Bruh, he way too easy when he enraged, it makes no difference in the fight

[frosty trellis]

Phase 2 specifically has some very weird jankyness

In death mode, DoG is always at max speed, making it's movements easy to predict and a lot easier to dodge
On Rev, he isn't at max speed, and if get a little too high about your arena (if you don't want to build a world height arena which I don't blame you if you don't) he has this weird habbit of sometimes (and I do mean sometimes bc it doesn't happen every time) doing a extremely sharp turn and just eating you or just increasing speed dramatically for no reason

Which has caused a fair few unfortunate deaths on my end

[worn dagger]

I see. That shoukd be because he switches from aggressive to passive mode, if you're flying at the moment, he'll get speed boost and charge towards you quickly, also he can me very sharp turn in passive phase

[frosty trellis]

Ic

It doesn't really seem like that happens ever in death mode

[worn dagger]

But yeah I can see why because sometimes he switches phases so fast that he just randomly boost and slow down

[frosty trellis]

Yep

And I am not keeping a mental clock to count the 10-15 seconds it takes between each phase (I think it's 10-15, correct me if I'm wrong)

[worn dagger]

Countdown for phase changing is near non-existense really

Though there is 12 seconds cd for p2 laser walls

[frosty trellis]

Even with the death mode background being black so it is harder to indicate phase changes, due to him always being at max speed there isn't really any weird things that happen out of nowhere that catch me off guard. It's a lot easier that way (especially with the Lazer walls being reduced to 2 instead of 2)

[frosty trellis]

It's 12? That doesn't feel right

[small timber]

I mean on rev DoG turn the sky blue to indicate charging/flying phase

but ya I do agree the laser walls need some telegraph that is not DoG turning invisible

[frosty trellis]

Oh wait

I'm dumb

Yes it is 12

[worn dagger]

12 from last set of laser wall of the first barrage to the first set of the next barrage

[frosty trellis]

Ah yes, lets just have the sky change color while I am above my arena with no indication it's going to happen that very second and die to sharp turns or massively increased speed because that's fun

[frosty trellis]

Yeah I realized that a little late

Bc I was confused for a sec bc RoD cooldown but then wait yeah, duh

[small timber]

you need to be really close to the head for it to happen in the first place, like absurdly close

[frosty trellis]

Not really....?

[small timber]

and after the recent patch I dont feel it is a high speed increase anymore, DoG only get somewhat faster

[frosty trellis]

Just need to be above your arena and DoG onscreen

[frosty trellis]

They nerfed that? That's cool

[worn dagger]

Try not to be airborne so much in dog fight. General tip really

[frosty trellis]

I tap fly a lot while fighting DoG

It's easier for me

And on Death it works wonders

[small timber]

on the previous patch ya I would agreed with what you said (since it was so problematic that I made a suggestion for that), but from the recent/current patch it seems to be pretty tame tbh

[jagged fiber]

I changed my suggestion to include all elementals

[frosty trellis]

Oh sick

[jagged fiber]

I was not aware of the other ones

[frosty trellis]

I didn't realize it got toned down

[minor shell]

is he? i found him fairly consistently predictable on rev, although i didnt bother with death+ so im not sure how they compare

[frosty trellis]

Bc I hate Rev dog

[frosty trellis]

Death is extremely predictable
Rev feels like an absolute RNG fest sometimes with the phase changing

I don't even need to know what phase DoG is in on death most of the time bc whatever he does is predictable and 100% consistent

[worn dagger]

I can agree with them but because he doesn't spend much time in passive phase plus he is offscreen most of the time, most people won't notice it

[frosty trellis]

I tab my map for Fullscreen map for DoG

Which helps a ton

[minor shell]

ah. usually when hes in the passive phase i just fly around which basically makes him aggressive

[frosty trellis]

I just tap fly a lot

So I can keep up easier in passive and avoid DoG easier in aggressive

[worn dagger]

Quite ironic. DoG could potentially be more deadly in "passive" phase and seems to be more agressive than in "agressive" phase itself

[frosty trellis]

Especially in phase 2, already being airborne while tap flying makes just flying up diagonally then dashing into the opposite direction of DoG's movement is a lot easier to pull off while in the air already from my experience

[frosty trellis]

Quite so

[small timber]

this is the current DoG

[frosty trellis]

Although, imo the only boss that gets significantly harder in Death mode compared to Rev is Yharon but that's telefrag issues which people have mentioned

[frosty trellis]

That seems way more passive and slower than I remember

[minor shell]

well yharon is almost completely consistent so its nothing like malice boc telefrags

[frosty trellis]

Show phase 2 as well plz xpc

[small timber]

ya previously DoG is like, turning into a rocket as soon as phase change

sec

[frosty trellis]

Since that's where I got most of my issues

[small timber]

(tbh phase 2 is mostly purple phase)

[frosty trellis]

Even so

It's what was causing me a lot of issues back in 1.5.1.6

[small timber]

I will just turn on god mode since I am too lazy to have proper defense

[frosty trellis]

Since back then I had a habbit of either nohitting or only getting hit once in phase 1 since I was able to learn that well enough.

Phase 1 wasn't bad back then

[frosty trellis]

Just grab dragons rage and force it into phase 2

Lol

[small timber]

done

[small timber]

(tbh back then I thought p1 is way worse since it just randomly turn sports car)

[frosty trellis]

Wow

That seems

So much slower

[small timber]

ya now the phase change is really like, not impactful anymore

[frosty trellis]

The turns are still there but not bad

[small timber]

I think they still get a decent speed increase on Death, but on rev it is very tamed

it is pretty much just lasers now

[frosty trellis]

Death it's always at max speed

And as melee rn it's currently a free fight due to spam dashing kmao

DoG can't catch up to you until phase 3

[frosty trellis]

Lasers yeah, a little warning would be nice but I just have RoD right next to my weapon always to help with that lol

[small timber]

meanwhile this is death

[frosty trellis]

That's the DoG I'm used too

It was so predictable that the first time I did death dog I beat phase 2 first try lmao

[small timber]

Death DoG (current patch) can do sharp turn that is similar to the previous patch DoG, so ya

[frosty trellis]

I've never seen it tbh

Maybe bc I have started using Fargo's and cheat sheet for arenas so I have world height arenas bc it's just convenient

But yeah

[small timber]

phase 2 is similar to phase 1 with harder lasers, but phase 2 since it switch to blue/sky phase for such short amount of time it dont even get to speed up
(and by default DoG move faster than Phase 1 during purple/ground phase but since it is predictable it is not a big deal)

death DoG is a lot faster during final phase (<16%) though

[frosty trellis]

Yeah I am aware of the phase 3 being a lot faster

That's the only phase I die on death dog

[small timber]

(well my recording is on so my as well)

[frosty trellis]

He go zoom though

[orchid cairn]

dog enrages when you fly too much???

[frosty trellis]

But Death DoG actually looks like the hard one now

[frosty trellis]

And if you are too far off the ground

[small timber]

it is not really "enrage" now, it is more of a phase change

[orchid cairn]

lmao i beat him on death and i had no idea

[small timber]

basically DoG has phases where he is faster when you are in air or will chase you regardless, switching between the two periodically

[sonic yarrow]

(Same as crawltipedes from solar pillar)

[orchid cairn]

word

[rugged belfry]

What nudity? I see no nudity in this mod. I have no idea what you mean.

[sand ermine]

i have a feeling the nudity sugg was made as a joke

[swift wharf]

this is an unexpected possibility

[jagged fiber]

It was not

The brimstone elemental is clearly nude

[rugged belfry]

That's your perception. imo, the red is clothing.

Skin-colored clothing.

[quiet kernel]

Also resprites

[quiet kernel]

Also this^

[small timber]

I know this will like, never get enough votes, but my as well try as otherwise debuffs will just stay the way it currently is until forever

[gray nebula]

grug

[small timber]

nvm in that case I will just post the version I want, since it never get enough votes anyway

[gray nebula]

unfortunately making debuffs that are more out there like

usually theres debuffs work well when the fight is designed around them

which wouldnt be the case

[small timber]

I think things like twins did it well tbh

cursed flame and shadow flame are not exactly something you can easily get, but still fits the fight well enough

[drowsy plank]

"Cursed Flame, Astral Infection, Irridiated and Plague"
does cursed flame not reduce player DR?
also i could easily see the rest maybe getting like, vision impairment, reduced movement speed, reduced damage, stuff like that

basically what if some DPS debuffs were also ailments from feral bite lmao

[swift wharf]

darkness debuff

[small timber]

cursed flame make player take 20% more damage yeah

[still zodiac]

cursed flames do reduce the player's DR, the other 3 also apply a bunch of stat debuffs

[small timber]

I never feel darkness effect is a good downside, can be just something else

[swift wharf]

there's a reason why horror was removed

[small timber]

never liked vision-impairing effect, unless it is like abyss (which you specifically have to build around and will get enough light to counter it)

[drowsy plank]

oh i always thought it was interesting cause i use the plague reaper set

[small timber]

if the player can choose to active it it is interesting yeah

[drowsy plank]

gets u kinda use to darkness

fair

[small timber]

just ya, not particularly like it if it is the boss doing it

[drowsy plank]

and yet brain of cthulhu can still inflict all of these
curious

[small timber]

wait BoC what now

[small timber]

I like how it is just ankh shield debuffs

[drowsy plank]

YUP

lmao

why are cursed and silenced even on here

it should just inflict bleeding, poison, and broken armor

that's it

does any other boss even have these kinds of debuffs

[swift wharf]

sg has cursed

wof has weak

[small timber]

desert scourge inflict bleed, skeletron inflict slow and bleed, if you count it

[noble parrot]

whats the chance of getting all these at once from one creeper

[swift wharf]

skeletron has slow

[drowsy plank]

sg hasn't had cursed for a while

[swift wharf]

what the fuck

[small timber]

wait what why does skeletron only inflict like 0.1 sec of slow

nice debuff you got there

[drowsy plank]

5.1933024685232335703502624296217e-10

[swift wharf]

1

(one)

[small timber]

the debuff comes off before your immunity frame is gone

[swift wharf]

dear god

[drowsy plank]

lol

[small timber]

(also nice that cal wiki for vanilla bosses exist now)

[drowsy plank]

also i suggest adding darkness to bosses and yall r like no
and literally all the sg parts already inflict darkness

lmao

it's not like it's obstructed or anything it's just a small vision imparment

[small timber]

it is just abit unnecessarily, at least imo

since as you say it is not really relevant, just abit annoying and thats it

until bosses start to inflict obstructed instead

[drowsy plank]

it would be a way to get people to care about the debuffs more, and darkness isn't that dehabilitating that you couldn't just ignore it if you really wanted

yeah no fuck some of the stuff BoC can inflict

like some of those should just be removed

but it wouldnt hurt to add these aspects to other ignored debuffs to make them less

"oh well i am taking damage i guess"

[small timber]

debuffs used to matter a lot when death mode amplify debuff damage (and debuffs last very long in general), now that many immune option are given imo I do think they can be added back

now most bosses dont have more than 3 seconds of debuffs unless it is contact damage

but ya, if the changes a bit too specific do let me know, since I can see that being a problem

[hollow shell]

@jagged fiber You should probably use a word different from "nudity", because there is nothing explicit in the mod
Even in the cases of female-looking figures not wearing clothes, the potential explicit content is stylistically excluded

Vanilla does the same with Sand Elementals, though that one's femininity is even more vague

(also it's a bit extreme to quit a playthrough over that dontcha think
Brimstone Elemental and Anahita are optional bosses)

[small timber]

tbh most of BoC's truly debilitating debuff last a very short time, but ya it looks more like someone just make a funny by making it apply all ankh shield debuffs

[drowsy plank]

i know but any time at all with these is already a slap in the face

[hollow shell]

It is a pretty lazy way to add difficulty but yeah the chances are very low and the durations are very short, on the most troublesome debuffs of the list

[drowsy plank]

the more time i spend playing and discuss the mod, the more i think BoC is just one of the worst fights in the game. not that it's hard but just that it is not well designed.

and most of those problems can have the finger pointed at vanilla, but this is neither here nor there

[small timber]

rework BoC to be pre-HM ceaseless void when

[drowsy plank]

PLEASE

[swift wharf]

Infernum brain

boc is so bullied it's literally just the farming boss

[drowsy plank]

BoC is so bullied because, as we've seen with malice, if it's current fight was made hard, it becomes a cheap garbagefest

[hollow shell]

Infernum BoC does look pretty frickin sexy

[swift wharf]

maybe I should listen to the huge brain with lightning

[crude geode]

have the crimson tunnels been modified to make it uh less shit to fight in (aka more open space in general), either from vanilla or from cal

bc that's probably why boc is such a easy boss

(also wof in vanilla )

[drowsy plank]

true

that's definitely an aspect but even when the fight takes place on the surface, weird creeper movement and telefragging, on top of these random ass debuffs (and also the fact it take knockback???) just make for a shit fight

as soon as he's tuned to be any sort of threat he's ass

perf is a simple fight too but is way better in almost every capacity

[crude geode]

that's because it's a cal designed fight /j

[frosty trellis]

WoF in calamity can be cheesed the exact same way it can be in vanillla so yeah

[grave zinc]

@kindred creek - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add Draedon, Empress of Light, Deerclops, and Queen Slime To Boss Rush]

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[Make the Mounted Scanner symmetrical when used with an even number of minion slots.]

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[Sulphuric Sea and Astral Biome Tree Fruits]

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@spring sail - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make other calamity maces work the same as 1.4 maces and consider as true melee when spinning]

It has been voted upon, and the devs decided it would be a good idea to implement it. This doesn't guarantee implementation, as plans may change/alternate plans may be made, but it does highly improve chances!
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[thorny sapphire]

WOOOO

FINALLY

MOUNTED SCANNER IS USABLE

[grave zinc]

@spring sail - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add biome torches to be consistent with vanilla]

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@ashen warren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[More armor/equipment in the future with similar buffs to Whips!]

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@ashen warren - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Change the Devourer of Gods' boss summon]

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[cobalt pewter]

@drowsy plank you're looking for the word "debilitating" in your sugg btw

[grave zinc]

@proud quest - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make crabulon spawn naturally]

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@frozen hornet - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Add more flavor text in the tooltips of exo weapons]

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[ashen warren]

Epic.

[grave zinc]

@drowsy plank - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Remove Tenebris and Depth Cells or Differentiate Them From Lumenyl]

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[ashen warren]

Glad my suggestions were good enough. :)

[grave zinc]

@small timber - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Supreme Calamitas - Give a Slight Pause Before Bullet Hell Starts OR Some Way To Telegraph Where the Initial Wave of Bullets Come From]

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@covert nova - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[Make Extracinator craftable]

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@spring sail - Your suggestion has received an updated status!

[** Make Queen Slime drop Crystal shards**]

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[crude geode]

yooo shoutouts to "remove depth cells" finally being approved (in a different sugg )

[small timber]

@flat rock by Death+ mode do you mean death mode or malice mode?

[flat rock]

Death, I am aware of malice being removed

I added the "+" out of habit

[small timber]

ok, though as I am aware death dont nearly telegraph as much so I thought the suggestion referred to malice

but ya boc fight is like, really flawed in its current state

[rugged belfry]

BoC is easy peasy because she takes knockback

[flat rock]

It's not the end of the world but some kind of fix to telefragging would be lovely for no-hits

[flat rock]

Same reason why signus is easy as a ranger imo

also since when did the brain have a gender

[small timber]

as long as you dont leave like 1 creeper alive for extended period of time you should be fine tbh

since boc basically teleport more often the less creepers there is, so just have decent dps to kill creepers relatively quickly and you are good

phase 2 is mostly stay in place and dash anyway

[flat rock]

true

[hollow shell]

Looking over the debuff sugg now

Doesn't this already occur? That's what makes Crown Jewel's regen special

[rugged belfry]

Since I decided so

[hollow shell]

And, don't both of these points go against the idea of your suggestion?

For III, immunity wouldn't be more sought after if it was less effective

[small timber]

sorry I was incredibly late, but ya the intention is basically something like that

basically celestial jewel line is the only upgrade line that let life regen persist through debuff, to certain degree allow you to "counteract" debuff damage

the current debuff system "cancel positive life regen" is function similarly to bleeding and basically only cancels the base life regen the player have (basically dont really do anything); so the suggestion basically make it function as "intended" by making it similar to omega blue armor effect

celestial jewel just seems like it does more because it provide a lot of life regen (similar to regenator level)

[small timber]

this two might sound counterintuitive, but the intention was to balance out the fact that you lose a lot of life regen from the 'cancel positive life regen effect' which currently allowing you to partially counteract these debuffs, so the top-end need to be lower; this is also to make sure they are not instantly absurd if other downside are given

(though this one just depend on how harsh the devs wish the debuff to be, because if they want the debuff to be strong they can stay at that dps)

[small timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsKSSYgwAt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOscOn31hPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvAe_YuBR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGsSuYY3Wk0
(I hate discord video buffering so youtube it is)
basically just a showcase of a bunch of debuffs and how life regen interact with them, and ya they don't cancel regen at all

[short walrus]

@royal wren too much effort suggestion (don't) and the devs are planning on making the current ones better rather than make new difficulties

also, reference for the sake of reference (also a don't)

[royal wren]

What

[short walrus]

your suggestion is invalid, thats what

[royal wren]

How so

[short walrus]

also, improper formatting
title

reasoning

[short walrus]

in the ways that i have already outlined

[royal wren]

Want me to repost it?

[frail mantle]

we don't need more mgr references

[short walrus]

read the document at the top of sugg posting

and no, i want you to delete it

[royal wren]

Thank you

[royal wren]

There's always a prick somewhere

[short walrus]

theres always a guy who doesn't bother reading the rules

[royal wren]

There is always more than one way to handle a situation

[short walrus]

yes, i could've phrased that better

[royal wren]

But enough, this isn't a ranting channel

[short walrus]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OA3GxJ4w4QA4pCkngwt8kqW8Qq18U5KOCUJEucUS8ck/edit?usp=sharing

read this

[small timber]

what does malice being removed have anything to do with adrenaline and rage?

[short walrus]

^

[royal wren]

Adrenaline and Rage are added by a dif
A dif is being removed

The one made me think of the other

[small timber]

adrenaline and rage are added by revengeance mode, it has nothing to do with malice

malice is pure boss AI change

[neat linden]

more mgr references :hdflr:

[royal wren]

I'll be more specific. A difficulty is being removed, this made me think of difficulties, the main difficulty adds rage and adrenaline

[small timber]

the sentence dont make sense to me

[quiet kernel]

Also time being slown would be hard to balance

[neat linden]

(the sugg isn't even formatted properly)

[neat linden]

How would it work on mp

[small timber]

you want a different difficulty that add a bar that is like rage and adrenaline?

[quiet kernel]

Like true melee

[royal wren]

Tbf, I could've easily not included the inspiration part, and it would been treated differently

[quiet kernel]

Yeah

[royal wren]

I just included it as I know cal already took some inspiration

[royal wren]

Everything would be slowed down?

[small timber]

but ya regardless, it is simply not happening, no reason for a 3rd bar to be added

the game dont need a 3rd bar that the game is not actively being balanced around

[neat linden]

for all players hmm

[quiet kernel]

Some fargos hypermode stuff but reversed, that in it self sounds hard

[royal wren]

What about an accessory that replaces one of the bars with this

[small timber]

probably too much of a headache in multiplayer, shitty codes and stuff

as of right now desync is already an issue, I can imagine what slowing down the game globally will do

[royal wren]

Issue in multiplayer isn't big

[quiet kernel]

But as said, its a dont

So 🤷‍♂️

[small timber]

but ya regardless, even for singleplayer ^

[royal wren]

Singleplayer and MP shouldn't have a difference. Bar is activated, everything slows down. Player that activated bar gets a use speed buff

[small timber]

coding wise, netcode wise, desync wise

[quiet kernel]

Also balancing

[small timber]

the fact that you literally can have bosses jumping away, teleport and so on in multiplayer right now, already prove how much of a headache this kind of effect can be in multiplayer

[neat linden]

multiplayer always ruins everything,,,,,,,,

[quiet kernel]

And the fact that it would make some fights easy

[royal wren]

How?

[quiet kernel]

Literally slowed gameplay

[royal wren]

Adrenaline gives more than 3x dmg at certain stages of the game

[quiet kernel]

Nothing is a challenge when its really slow

[royal wren]

It's not like it would be slowed constantly

[small timber]

adrenaline also requires not getting hit for 30s, but ya regardless, the suggestion is not happening, especially with the entire reasoning being based on a reference

[quiet kernel]

^

[royal wren]

Think about adrenaline, now replace high dmg boost with attack speed boost and slower movement

[small timber]

i) it is an extra layer to be considered for balance for no reason
ii) coding headache
iii) there is no reason that the game need this now; the reasoning is just funny blade mode reference and nothing else; we already have 2 other bars for that

[royal wren]

As said I included that part as I thought the server would be more inclined to a MGRR theme suggestion than one that had no link

[small timber]

it gives the impression ya, though recently suggestion are generally pushed out of being reference based, simply because otherwise people will ask for a lot more

it was funny when MGRR was a little niche meme game, but now that it seen resurgence it is becoming much more annoying that people are constantly ask for MGRR reference, so the verdict is set so that the references are not reinforced anymore than they need to

[royal wren]

I see, so it would've been wiser to not take advantage of that similarity

[small timber]

ye, (though I do think the main reasoning is just there is no need for a 3rd bar now, even if it is not MGRR themed)

[quiet kernel]

Also removal of DoG cringe lines that had MGRR made some people upset

[small timber]

wait DoG line had MGRR reference?

[quiet kernel]

Yeah

Atleast I think

[royal wren]

Can't fret over every npc

[quiet kernel]

Wait lemme check

[small timber]

oh right nothing personal kid wait no

[royal wren]

That was a mgrr ref?

Oh

[quiet kernel]

Yeah

Wiki.gg

[small timber]

ok with that being the case, time to rename the funny red lightning blade

to finally get that over with

[royal wren]

Bro

[quiet kernel]

Lets name it, the better muramasa

[royal wren]

Lightning McQueen

[quiet kernel]

You see the vanilla weapon

[royal wren]

Okay, so a 3rd bar is no go. I can easily understand that. But what of changing how a bar works?

[small timber]

#suggestions-posting message I did have something in mind

but ya for changing how the entire mechanic of the bar works, probably need convincing reasoning

(but probably more that it need to get enough votes)

[royal wren]

I like that

[sharp rapids]

LETS GOOO

[worn dagger]

Why would you stay near the portal when DoG is about to comeout anyway?

[ashen warren]

Help providence didn't drop anything
I killed her once normally and nothing happened, she just gibbed, then I killed her again with an op weapon from cheatsheet but still nothing happened

[short walrus]

#bugs-read-pins

[rocky saddle]

Wouldn't it be great if Calamity edited offsets for Arkhalis and Terragrim slashes?

[fossil finch]

Why?

[drowsy plank]

lmao that's what i get for writing it when i was so tired, thanks for the heads up

[drowsy plank]

was a lil suprised by this, curious to see how it turns out

[cobalt pewter]

[small timber]

@whole tundra what do you mean by ignoring dashes? for ignore immunity frame is probably a bug

[fossil finch]

what are they cooking

[small timber]

looking at the irridiated change I guess my debuff suggestion is cooked, but it will get 10 votes anyway

[drowsy plank]

i never even realized irridiated worked like that

wacky

[small timber]

I really do want debuffs to matter more though, especially on death mode

especially on things like brimstone elemental which used to be a heavily debuff centric boss, now everything just deal a lot of direct damage (except DoG which is high on both)

[drowsy plank]

i remember grinding for regen just to deal with brimflames lmao

ive literally never had to do that since

tho abaddon is craftable so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[small timber]

abaddon used to be after brimstone elemental only, brimstone elemental used to also have both brimstone flame and abyssal flame, but deal very low direct damage

but ya, now brimstone elemental is just... doesnt really deal damage

[short walrus]

@dim wren aside from the "it's hard to pick between them" argument there is very little reason to implement this sugg

Also the whole "actually choose your gear" thing is something the Devs are actively going for

[cobalt pewter]

#suggestions-posting message

@dim wren no need for the name specifics, and if I'm correct the fact that you need to choose between them is intended?

oops someone already did the funny

[short walrus]

Lol, lmao

[cobalt pewter]

[dim wren]

Well ok then

Lol

[short walrus]

So yeah uh (delete it)

[cobalt pewter]

(totally not a threat)

[short walrus]

I am not approaching your house at dangerously high speeds

[golden tulip]

calclone's BH's dont "randomly speed up"

youre just going too far

[short walrus]

Really? It always felt like that

And too far from what might I ask

[golden tulip]

from when she starts the attack

its a softcap arena

like scals box

[short walrus]

Huh

[golden tulip]

except without the box

[short walrus]

(mildly irritating, perhaps a sugg to make a small border of blood particles would be in order

[golden tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i agree that it is not very clear when you are too far away

by the moment you find out youre already punished

[short walrus]

I would start drafting up a sugg but it is 11:20pm

@young moon specific item suggestions are a don't and the stynger already exists
Also detracts from pumplers uniqueness

[young moon]

eh idk i just had an idea and i said it

[small timber]

until the day they decided to massively buff up end game items (maybe for Yharim), suggestion to combine end game accessory is simply not happening

all of them hold absurd power level by itself

[short walrus]

It's not happening regardless iirc

Gotta actually perfect your setup

[short walrus]

Still invalid

Read the document at the top of posting

[swift wharf]

Mixing both is just plain stupid

We don't need the ultimate poopshitter shield of armageddon

I hate endgame accessory combination suggestions I hate

(also you can just use both???)

[small timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/859804429536198676.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

ye tldr

[undone cedar]

Yeah calamity has lessened its large accessory combination stuff, so i wouldnt expect any new ones

[cobalt pewter]

@supple lodge for this sugg (<#suggestions-posting message>), how much does Bloodworm need for research

since off the top of my head it's the only other consumable boss summons in cal atm

[frosty trellis]

I'm also just sitting here like: Asgardian Aegis is almost mandatory imo just to deal with Yharon better, and then rampart is a nice thing to have. Do I always use rampart? No, but when it comes to accessories I fit it in whenever (Priorities for general use accessories goes Wings>Aegis>Cotbg>Ramart>Sponge) A fair bit of the time I can fit rampart and it's great lol

[small timber]

I removed the suggestion since seeing how irridiated is changed, the suggestion contradict with devs' intention, and I dont think the suggestion is convincing enough to sway the opinion

[drowsy plank]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Stynger

[small timber]

Ya rampart is like, stupidly powerful

And also really the only thing that dont stack is knockback immune, all other aspect of the accessories stack fully

[drowsy plank]

i cant imagine boss where a rampart + aegis would be balanced against it in any capacity

[eternal escarp]

then you could use that as further reasoning tbh

would help the sugg

[cobalt pewter]

precisely what blast said

[proud quest]

YEEEEAHHHHHHHHH

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOA

[sand ermine]

@dim nebula wrong format + no reasoning

[dim nebula]

👍

[hollow shell]

@muted cobalt Don't

[muted cobalt]

Okay

[hollow shell]

(tbf that suggestion would have more reasoning to it than other joke suggestions considering even Fabsol has adopted it)

(But regardless adding that would be a terrible terrible idea)

[muted cobalt]

lol

[hollow shell]

Also @prisma oracle you need to format your suggestion properly
You currently use multiple Spaces to separate your title line from your reasoning, when you should be using a Line Break (Shift+Enter on Desktop)

[prisma oracle]

my bad i dont use discord very often

i fixed it

[hollow shell]

Thank you 👍

The bot should remove that 🗜️ soon

ye there we go

[frosty trellis]

Sees the boss rush suggestion

YES FUCKING PLEASE

Terminus SCal is the entire reason I cannot beat death mode boss rush, and with how long it takes to get there and how everything else isn't even a problem (I can just facetank even Providence half the time) SCal just kills me every time and it's demoralizing

[hollow shell]

I thought SCal was already nerfed in the boss rush, the only boss that was.

[frosty trellis]

It's worse

[sand ermine]

I cannot tell you how much times I have died from Old Duke, let alone SCal

[frosty trellis]

Because Malice AI

[hollow shell]

Hmmm yes I see

[frosty trellis]

Not only are the blasts 1.25x speed, it's basically 5 bullet hells in a row

[stuck cave]

they tried to buff everything else but everything else still melts even if it gets anywhere close to damaging you lmao

[frosty trellis]

Since you just shred her low hp very quickly

[stuck cave]

that too

[frosty trellis]

Having her with less HP makes it worse

[stuck cave]

bc it's just 99% bullet hells

[frosty trellis]

E X A C T L Y

And with 1.25x bullet speed, even with exo box it's extremely difficult

[stuck cave]

scarlet devil ain't shit when she's immune almost the whole fight

[frosty trellis]

And since she is so far into boss rush, losing to her several times is super demoralizing bc you have to spend another 10 minutes to get to her again

[frosty trellis]

Neither is Triactas, Elemental Excalibur, Rainbow Party Cannon, Contagion or Endogenesis

[stuck cave]

yea ofc i was just naming scarlet devil bc i only ever tried boss rush on my rogue run LOL

[frosty trellis]

I did so for my melee run and could never do it

Because of SCal

Tried once as summoner and died to SCal after melting everything with endogenesis

If the bullet speed was reduced to normal and she has like, triple/quadruple the HP she would be a lot more manageable

Hell, I have been tempted to just crank my hp settings to max to make it not a just stream of constant bullet hells

Tfw the HP settings would make a boss easier

[hollow shell]

I suppose the solution would be making the bullet hells last for less time?

To act like an HP reduction

[kind mica]

hey people I just got here, does anyone know the fix for the world gen bug? It seems like the previous one isn't currently on the workshop

[stuck cave]

compleeeeetely wrong channel friend

[hollow shell]

You can use the methods listed in the pins of #bugs-read-pins, though there should be an update to Calamity to fix that bug entirely releasing within 24 hours

[kind mica]

ahhh okay sorry

thanks

[hollow shell]

[frosty trellis]

Bullet hells for less time would also be nice. Would like no more 1.25x bullet speed but the bullet hell time reduction + an HP buff I think would make it less demoralizing

[prisma oracle]

i think maybe she should do less damage

i recently played it on master death mode and it was ROUGH

too punishing for a boss thats so hard to dodge

[drowsy plank]

master

[frosty trellis]

Expert-Death is 3-4 hits and dead

[lilac fulcrum]

Why would wulfrum bombs need to exist if we already have temporary wulfrum scaffolding?

Just seems redundant

[grim tusk]

and digging turtles

bombs would be redundant as fuck with the digging turtles

[lilac fulcrum]

@ashen warren did say that they wouldn't destroy tiles

[grim tusk]

and its also a SIS

[ashen warren]

it would be for later when you wont be using wilfrum armor

but still pre hardmode

[grim tusk]

@hollow shell SIS right

[lilac fulcrum]

What does SIS stand for?

[grim tusk]

wouldnt at that point be able to just delete any enemy

[grim tusk]

specific item suggestion

which are not allowed

[ashen warren]

oh sorry

[lilac fulcrum]

But wait is wulfrum scaffolding a set bonus thing?

[ashen warren]

i will avoid SIS from now on

i just heard that you could post ideas here so i joined the channel

[unborn oriole]

Suggestions don'ts document:

[waxen apex]

Suggestion

Remove the armour break when you take damage. Thanks

[ashen warren]

also wilfrum bomb would be for harder modes such as malice where enemies one tap you

[unborn oriole]

Just

[lilac fulcrum]

We already are getting scaffolding

[unborn oriole]

Way too specific

[ashen warren]

okay

[unborn oriole]

Besides yeah scaffolding is a thing

And much more convenient

[fossil finch]

Malice doesn't even

[unborn oriole]

It allows TERRARIA FORNITE GAMING

[ashen warren]

fair point terraria fortnite gaming is cool

[waxen apex]

damn imma be cranking 90's on SCAL les goooo

[ashen warren]

poof tis gon

will try to avoid SIS in future

sorry internet people

[unborn oriole]

Yeah avoid sis

And no prob

Humans make errors

[ashen warren]

is there like a rules sheet i can look at for this channel

[unborn oriole]

Yep

Pins in #suggestions-posting

[ashen warren]

cool i am now armed with knowledge

[swift wharf]

no

[frosty trellis]

Malice is getting removed-

[ashen warren]

oh

rip

[lilac fulcrum]

If you turn your Mana and Health bar style back to classic instead of fancy I'm pretty sure the affect comes back

@chilly jackal

[chilly jackal]

oh

but it would be cool if you could have the 1.4 style mana and hearts with the color change

[inner anvil]

They're already sprited.

[lilac fulcrum]

wait really

[inner anvil]

Yes, it's just tMod doesn't have support for changing them yet.
Or that's what I've heard.

[lilac fulcrum]

Hmm

[chilly jackal]

so that means that it will only be a matter of time

[inner anvil]

Yes.

[chilly jackal]

ok

[lilac fulcrum]

Probably should delete the post then so better suggestions have a chance of getting to the devs

[chilly jackal]

i already did

[lilac fulcrum]

Like the rework world shrines suggestion

[inner anvil]

We already have other plans for the shrines.

But I don't think they're public.

[lilac fulcrum]

That's reasurring

[chilly jackal]

hopefully it involves making them possible to find

[inner anvil]

More or less.

[chilly jackal]

epic

[fossil finch]

Most hilarious suggestion ever

Including "why did they make a weapon better and cooler I'm so sad

[swift wharf]

Items that scale with progression

dreaded

I just read the last line what the fuck

[fossil finch]

How dare the devs

Rework weapons

[hollow shell]

@vivid lake You can't make suggestions to have a weapon get stronger over time

However, you could suggest that more craftable upgrades to Zenith get added, if you want

(and yeah that Ark bit is totally unrelated to the rest of the sugg)

[vivid lake]

srry didnt know

[hollow shell]

Alright

Now you need to add reasoning to your suggestion

For why this should be added, how it'd benefit the mod/game

[keen drum]

cool 🙏

[frosty trellis]

Oh god not another buff Zenith suggestion....

Zenith is perfectly fine. It's Ark that needs a nerf and it's getting a nerf in the next patch

Zenith is literally arguably the best post-yharon weapon for Exo twins, great against Ares, good for SCal, and especially for her Seekers.

[small timber]

tbh trust me people will not like upgraded zenith at all

people will just say calamity invalidate all good things in vanilla to shit to find reasons to add their own version

and "zenith means the peaking point why is there an upgrade" etc etc

[frosty trellis]

Yeah fair

Upgraded Zenith is like... Completely pointless regardless

You want an "upgraded Zenith" go make the Exoblade once it gets reworked

[drowsy plank]

i think upgrades to weapons like the terraprisma and celebration could be cool to let them last longer in progression, but zenith already got scaled up so much, and it honestly works great where it is lmao

[hollow shell]

Call the Zenith upgrade "Plus Ultra"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_ultra

[inner anvil]

Spain reference?!

No way (No way!)!

[swift wharf]

my hero academia

[inner anvil]

The hell's that?

[drowsy plank]

they made spain into an anime but bad

[inner anvil]

I live in Spain, can confirm this is false. ^

I'm sorry poor one, I had to say it.

[red void]

Hello

[unborn oriole]

Got damn how did this even get to voting

[keen drum]

💀

[fossil finch]

It'll get 6 votes

[sand ermine]

As a group collaborative we should keep it at 6 votes

[serene tendon]

Something wrong with it? I wouldn't quit my playthrough because of it, but I think Brimmy at least needs to be changed so. Maybe give her a molten chestplate or something.

[stuck cave]

it's not nudity there's nothing explicit lmao

like they are elementals they're made of different kinds of energy

[serene tendon]

It might not technically be but it's too close

[stuck cave]

who knows maybe they're wearing a full suit

[unborn oriole]

69*

[stuck cave]

no that would give it a chance of passing

[hollow shell]

It's not explicit but it's still

questionable

[unborn oriole]

Pretty sure config suggs are a dont

[stuck cave]

that too

[fossil finch]

i don't think it'll

[hollow shell]

They are not a real Don't

[sand ermine]

Not even close

[unborn oriole]

A soft dont, but a dont

[fossil finch]

Go anywhere on dev
Realistically speaking

[serene tendon]

I don't think they should get clothes, but they should get themed armor. The Cloud Elemental already has armor.

[stuck cave]

armor is clothes

[unborn oriole]

Sand elemental:

[fossil finch]

If anything at most it gets stuck at approved limbo or at locked because of the resprite?

[serene tendon]

You know what I mean

[serene tendon]

Why exactly does everyone hate configs?

[fossil finch]

Nuclear Option

(They're usually always mostly used as excuses to pass bad suggs

[unborn oriole]

Yeah

[small timber]

sand elemental is unlikely to change since that one is vanilla, but I dont think sand elemental is perceived as particularly nudity anyway
anahita is a fish, though I can see her having armor actually being visually better
brimstone elemental have a new resprite planned

[fossil finch]

Anyways i simply don't agree with the idea brimmy needs to be censored at all even if it's already questionable

[unborn oriole]

Its either "config to revert changes to this! (Zenith or insignia)" or "config to get cute baby siren sprite back!"

Or something like that

[fossil finch]

reason 1 is that, (they allow this in t for teens prettt sure,n

[unborn oriole]

Either revert a nerf or revert a deleted thing

[fossil finch]

Reason 2 is the resprite but that's not as much a reason why not but a reason of why it will probably not happen the way they want it to

[small timber]

because config is the ultimate banaid solution where you make changes that you are unsure if everyone will like, so you make it toggleable

[swift wharf]

[serene tendon]

Obviously those and sprite changes shouldn't be configs, but that's no reason to show hostility to the idea itself

[swift wharf]

it's not hostility it's just the harsh reality

[unborn oriole]

[small timber]

some ideas dont really have solution other than config which I can agree, but the problem is just with what people come out with "solve this with a config" suggestion

[hollow shell]

@delicate dagger Coming soon ™️

[fossil finch]

anyways up to the devs! Alright

[unborn oriole]

Config bloat

[swift wharf]

btw does anyone really use the boss rush configs

[serene tendon]

At the same time though, isn't that a good thing with major changes at least?

So people can have more control over their gameplay?

[unborn oriole]

Once again, i say

[fossil finch]

Anyways the reason it's a soft don't is to prevent people from going "i don't like this random arbitrary thing that doesn't affect anyone so make it a config!!!!!!" Or the balance ones which is the main one really

[hollow shell]

Configs are good for otherwise unavoidable changes to vanilla content
like the EarlyHM rework or our base mobility changes

[unborn oriole]

I think not

[hollow shell]

The Boss Rush Curses shouldn't even be configs

[small timber]

you mean for the things that calamity already added? ya that one is sure

[small timber]

^

[fossil finch]

bossrush curses aren't used a lot

[swift wharf]

A UI for boss rush curses would he nice

[unborn oriole]

Aren't used*

[small timber]

but ya, just many suggestion heavily rely on config by saying "let people play how they want"

[swift wharf]

Like the grand design

[unborn oriole]

True

[hollow shell]

Frankly the curses probably shouldn't exist, but if we wanna keep them then they should be moved to some Terminus UI or secondary items

[swift wharf]

should I suggest that

[fossil finch]

Anyways people should play how they want but devs have the right to make people play as they design their games

[unborn oriole]

Endgame accesories?

I mean

Ball and chain already is a thing

And that's one of the curses

No dash

[hollow shell]

Kinda funny, that.

[unborn oriole]

Make the rest into favoritable items :clueless:

[hollow shell]

We could.

[unborn oriole]

[hollow shell]

Put em in the Terminus chest in the Abyss, and make em only work in the boss rush so that we don't effectively re-add difficulty-maxxing
(the curses themselves are still pretty much difficulty-maxxing, just for one specific thing)

[unborn oriole]

Yeah, why not

Someone suggest that

[small timber]

or remove boss rush curse

people only use it for difficulty maxxing anyway

[unborn oriole]

Or remove boss rush

People only use it to flex the rock anyways

[hollow shell]

:(

[keen drum]

def keep boss rush

but i feel people can just like

[small timber]

make boss rush where each bosses has 1 minute tdr, that way people will find no leisure to use boss rush curse

[swift wharf]

There we go

[keen drum]

not use the accessories the curses forbid

[small timber]

I can see NOTHING go wrong with that idea

[swift wharf]

Anything I should change?

[unborn oriole]

Looks good to me

[keen drum]

at least the dash one

life regen one seems relatively minimal compared to the other two

[hollow shell]

I'm wary at the first sentence of that reasoning

[fossil finch]

Keep bossrush curses but they're like hk's

No nail curse

[hollow shell]

Them being configs contributes to them barely being used

It's more so an issue that they don't really fit gameplay-wise

[swift wharf]

hmmm

[keen drum]

yeah i agree

[unborn oriole]

Remove configs

[hollow shell]

A config purely for one specific event and purely for the addition of difficulty

[gray nebula]

[hollow shell]

whereas other configs are more of trade-offs, UI elements, system/performance things, and/or pertain to vanilla content

[gray nebula]

that first half of the sugg be looking mighty nice

[hollow shell]

Are you being sarcastic

[swift wharf]

(I also can't tell)

[unborn oriole]

Remove sarcasm from reality with a config

[gray nebula]

im being so true

as always

im saying removing boss rush curses be looking mighty nice

purposefully not including the latter half because theyre kinda dnc

[hollow shell]

We should ask Fab how he feels about the Boss Rush curses, next opportunity we get

[hot zephyr]

even amongst those who obsess over calamity difficulties to the point of concern I haven't seen anyone talk about boss rush curses

elective difficulty tiers for boss rush sounds alright but i think they should just die

[frosty trellis]

I've never used them bc Terminus SCal is hard enough as is

Have yet to beat boss rush on death mode a single time bc of her

[vocal grotto]

They feel arbitrary imo, similar to the old things like iron heart
I share this opinion

[frosty trellis]

Yeah that's fair

[hollow shell]

I will have two concurrent dev server votes after the update releases

[swift wharf]

anyways edited them

you may kill the configs now

[frosty trellis]

I don't have a stance on the matter, but because of stuff like Iron Heart, Defiled and Armageddon already being removed, removing boss rush curses also makes sense since it's just difficulty bloat basically no one ever uses

[swift wharf]

🪓

[frosty trellis]

If they want the curses back just go make a mod/wait a bit for someone to make a mod with the curses

[swift wharf]

I don't think anyone will actually care

[frosty trellis]

Fair enough

But yeah, there really isn't a reason for them to exist at this point

[royal tapir]

How DARE they remove Boss Rush curses even though I've never touched them in my life grrrrrrrrrrr 😡

[swift wharf]

This will deeply affect the trout population

[frosty trellis]

Why do I feel like that will be over half the people's reaction for a week and then no one will care

[royal tapir]

The scandium economy will never recover from this

[frosty trellis]

[swift wharf]

This sounds familiar

[royal tapir]

Literally every removed thing ever

[frosty trellis]

Yeah

Like

People were mad at malice being removed for awhile

And now no one cares

[hollow shell]

... no I think people are still mad about that

You just don't see it in this channel because I explicitly banned conversations about it

[royal tapir]

I can't believe the Calamity devs would remove my beloved Leeching Dagger.........

[swift wharf]

leeching what

[hollow shell]

Leech Seed

[royal tapir]

So true!

[hollow shell]

It's a Pokemon move

[frosty trellis]

Oh I know, I've seen it come up way less now. Still do see it but yeah

[hollow shell]

You right

[serene tendon]

The Minecraft community when Mojang removes 2 pixels:

[swift wharf]

ok but removing fireflies makes no sense

[grim tusk]

Which one of em?

[frosty trellis]

I was ghost pinged...?

[ripe owl]

Calamity
Nudity
I am sorry where have you seen bare naked breasts with nipples?

[frosty trellis]

^

[ripe owl]

I hope they haven't seen the old Cloud Elemental sprite

[fossil finch]

Remove bossrush curses but don't put it on #changelogs i think

[grim tusk]

2 reasons to go grind Eye of the storm indeed

[fossil finch]

People are only mad when you tell them you removed something they didn't use

[ripe owl]

I think those people just have a mindset of "why remove when you can add"

[unborn oriole]

Brimmy according to them

Lets not tell him Anahita exists

[ripe owl]

Smh

Again, where do you see breasts with nipples in the mod

[unborn oriole]

Again, i say

Brimmy acording to them

[ripe owl]

It's not explicit nudity, it's good enough to be a 16+ rating

[unborn oriole]

Believe me

We tried on help and advice

He just became every christian stereotype at the same time

[ripe owl]

Ooooooh

Now that explains it

[unborn oriole]

Its a funny convo

I got a link to the start

Wanna see?

[ripe owl]

Sure but DM it to me if possible

[alpine scarab]

Waaaaah, i saw a woman in calamity mod, waaaaah, nudity

[ripe owl]

So true

[frosty trellis]

Lmaoooo

[hollow shell]

@nimble berry You need to add a reason to your suggestion, why that would benefit the mod

(and it better be a pretty strong reason cuz it'll have a significant impact on balancing)

[fossil finch]

nuclear opti

[nimble berry]

oh its a balence reason?

it could be a weaker version of both maybe

[small timber]

it will be pretty overpowered in expert and normal yes

[lilac fulcrum]

Why does it need to exist in lower difficulties

[small timber]

then people will complain about adrenaline and rage being 'weaker for no reason'

[lilac fulcrum]

Rage and Adrenaline are crutches to deal with increased hp

i think

[hollow shell]

Adren & Rage are supposed to be tools that allow you to overcome the difficulty of Rev & Death
(tools that require strategy and technique unlike, say, just giving the player an entire new accessory slot [cough] Master)

[nimble berry]

No 8th slot ):

[small timber]

just use wing slot for your 8th slot problem solved

[nimble berry]

I do xD

I need like 18 different crutches

[lilac fulcrum]

well then thats a skill issue

[nimble berry]

HEY

I BEAT MOONLORD ON MASTER REVENGENCE NO HIT

I HAVE THAT GOING

[fossil finch]

ok

[grim tusk]

Ok wingslot user

[small timber]

but ya tldr

you need better reasoning for that

[nimble berry]

i removed it

ok bye

[small timber]

since you really dont need adrenaline and rage on normal and expert, especially that expert drops drop in normal and expert now

but ya

[alpine scarab]

Winglsot users when they are enjoying life the way they like it and dont actively brag about its use

But then there is the toilet mod users

[fossil finch]

We should publicly humiliate both

People shouldn't have fun

I'm a calamity developer we all share this ideology

[half sage]

shame users of every mod, including cal

[fossil finch]

Brb posting on reddit on a burner for karma

[alpine scarab]

We develop ptsd for our users

[grim tusk]

“QoL” mod “ (not the actual QoL ones, I mean shit like wingslot, antisocial, luiafk, alch npc (even lite) and Fargo’s souls (why do people think this one is QoL when used with Cal, its another content mod ?)) users that just let everyone deal with their stuff, playing the way they want and not bragging - good
“QoL” mod users that brag about shit -

[small timber]

brb nohitting every boss using anti social wing slot unlimited buffs faster adrenaline and rage better reforge better emblem accessory mod

[fossil bronze]

fargo mutant is the qol one isnt it?
souls is just contenr mod asdon for mutant

[small timber]

I will post it on youtube too claiming how calamity is too easy

[grim tusk]

Yea Fargo’s mutant is QoL

Souls is content

But people keep messing em up