calamity-addon-talk

[fading dove]

both

souls dlc adds some enches of its own

[jagged socket]

i thought this was basically gonna be infernum but bit different i didnt know it had so much new stuff

infernum barely adds anything

[celest kestrel]

fargos is whole content mod

[fading dove]

you downloaded the compatibility patch between two content mods

eah

[lofty mist]

The entire point in infernum is to rework the bosses

And add Argus for some reason

[jagged socket]

ye ik but it said that eternity mode reworks the bosses too so i thought itd be the same thing

[fading dove]

eternity is a difficulty

think of it more like rev

[lofty mist]

Eternity death

[celest kestrel]

does that exist even

[gloomy mist]

no

[jagged socket]

no its only masochist-death

[lofty mist]

It used to

[gloomy mist]

say what?

[fading dove]

pre cal 2.1 yeah eternity death existed

[gloomy mist]

oh right

[fading dove]

but once cal difficulties got the souls treatment

[jagged socket]

are all of them stuff from souls or souls dlc?

[gloomy mist]

calamity advisor when 🤑

[fading dove]

yeah

well

one fromvanilla

[shrewd sorrel]

we need this 🤑

[gloomy mist]

ingame version of class setups

[jagged socket]

.....i kinda forgot i had an item called eternity advisor

i put it in my magic storage

[shrewd sorrel]

gets rid of having to go to Guides:Class Setups on the wiki

[fading dove]

its not great in souls dlc due to it notbeing adjusted

[shrewd sorrel]

this is just beneficial

[gloomy mist]

damn
that defeats the purpose of it

[jagged socket]

oh

is there any way to look for only prehardmode recipes or something in recipe browser

[fading dove]

lotta things are retiered so it suggests stuff like zerker soul for guardians when its post yharon

[jagged socket]

i dont want to sift through every single thing

[gloomy mist]

waiting for my computer to upgrade to 25H2 via rufus 👹

[fading dove]

the only ench that isnt obtainable the same time as its armour is ancient shadow due to it requiring goblin warlock drops

[atomic star]

anybodyu gotten to the last phase of ieor dog

thjis shit is so fucking hard

oh my days

i could no hit dog like 2 times in a row before i beat this mf

regular infernum dog

[jagged socket]

the hexagon thingies relate to armor????

[gloomy mist]

they're made from the armor

practically every enchantment uses a set

[jagged socket]

is there one for every armor in the game?

[gloomy mist]

pretty sure

[fading dove]

every vanilla armour and a decent portion of cal armours

[jagged socket]

these are all the cal ones?

whered u get this

[fading dove]

from the wiki

[jagged socket]

fargos wiki?

[gloomy mist]

im surprised marnite has an enchantment

considering it's probably the most underrated set in all of calamity

[jagged socket]

...i have no clue what marnite is tbh i know of everything on this list other than it (the armors not the hexagons)

[elder nebula]

building gear

[gloomy mist]

yeah it's a builder set

[elder nebula]

it's marble + granite

[jagged socket]

why would i want a builder set what does it do thats so good

[elder nebula]

helps with building

[jagged socket]

how much tho

does it give u screenwide range or what

[elder nebula]

a lot for early game

[gloomy mist]

screenwide is overkill for a pre-boss builder set

[jagged socket]

i was joking

is screenwide even possible

outside journey or something

[elder nebula]

mmno

[gloomy mist]

add the grarble set to calamity 2 and make it a diving set

[pallid tide]

final dawn any good for exos?

[night fractal]

no it specifically should help breaking player places tiles

[gloomy mist]

actually that's better

it should be the opposite of marnite and break the tiles you place

[naive galleon]

It worked, thanks🔥

[jagged socket]

i checked those out on the wiki, none of the preHM ones seem good at all (the dlc ones)

[north estuary]

It's because the damage dealt is way lower since you can do the domain thing to boost Up your damage plus having certain fishes on can make it do an insane amount of damage

[misty gyro]

Exo mechs r kinda egregious

Why there gotta be so much on the screen bruh

😔

[frank mauve]

better than basecal at least

[pallid tide]

yeah i am struggling with them too

is thanatos + artemis/apollo the best choice?

[frank mauve]

easiest combo is usually twins ares

[jagged socket]

please help i have no idea what to get after looking through the stuff its so much

[pallid tide]

ill give that a try, solo ares is completely destroying me 😭

and also final dawn seems incredible against thanatos so i can try soloin him

[misty gyro]

Is the sepulcher summon worth it for exo mechs

Or at all

He got adhd he cant focus on the boss

[gloomy mist]

metastasis' supulcher will target the brimstone hearts surrounding you if there are too many

[misty gyro]

Ya so like

[gloomy mist]

try using another summon against the hearts

[misty gyro]

Isnt that kinda bad

Ok

[jagged socket]

i dont think that person is here anymore, can anyone else help pls

[gloomy mist]

you can use saros to kill the brimstone hearts so the sepulcher doesn't target them

[gloomy mist]

you should probably replace the claw with the big stinger qb drops

[jagged socket]

but that guy said literally everything i have except boc is bad

[gloomy mist]

and PLEASE get a horseshoe balloon

[jagged socket]

i dont use extra jump ever across all my vanilla runs and my 3 cal runs

and i dont rly need the fall dmg negation

ill get that when i get wings anyways

[gloomy mist]

the jump is pretty useful tbh

[misty gyro]

Is there anything else i can get from calamitas to make exo mechs easier

i got yharon kindle and sepulcher

[jagged socket]

i have absolutely no idea what could be so good that all of them are to be replaced

i need to ask that person

[gloomy mist]

there're quite a few useful things you can replace them with

you could consider the eternity advisor even if it's inaccurate for dlc

[pallid tide]

omggg i just cant with ares bro

[jagged socket]

is it mostly the hexagons?

[gloomy mist]

prob

maybe
a double jump
lightning boots or higher
boc
and then the enchantments are your pick

each one specializes in something

[pallid tide]

i was hoping infernum would make me like the exo mechs 🙁

[jagged socket]

unrelated but i love the exo mechs
basecal, inf, wotm all

[pallid tide]

idk im just not really a fan of ares and apollo/artemis at all

its just so cluttered and overwhelming

[gloomy mist]

basecal exos suck
infernum exos are difficult idk
wotm exos are cool

[jagged socket]

that duck's 10% chance to take only 1 dmg seems so good tho

[gloomy mist]

you could get skyline wings if you wanna

[jagged socket]

im gonna

[gloomy mist]

pairs well with boots and a double jump

maybe aerospec

[jagged socket]

also the heart can inflict ichor isnt that great

[gloomy mist]

i don't know if it actually does that

[jagged socket]

or is its range too low for ranger

[gloomy mist]

i just know it summons creepers to act as meat shields

[jagged socket]

10% life is great

and ichor too

i think their range is probably the problem since i dont want to go close as ranger

[smoky dock]

Your class doesn't really affect your preferred range

[jagged socket]

wdym??

[smoky dock]

Closer = better odds to hit

[jagged socket]

huh?

i always stay super close as melee, medium distance as rogue and summoner, very far as ranger

[smoky dock]

The projectile doesn't need to move as far if you're closer, so it's easier to hit

[jagged socket]

(i dont play mage)

[smoky dock]

Be close when possible as all classes, and try to avoid being too far away, since that hurts your damage output and may lead to getting hit unfairly

[jagged socket]

why would it be easier to hit if it doesnt need to move as far

[smoky dock]

The safest range to be at is medium range, since you can easily adapt to be close, far, or stay in place whenever an attack would prefer one specific range band

[jagged socket]

sry for being dumb

[pallid tide]

hold on let me get ms paint 😭

[smoky dock]

Like, y'know how projectiles move through the air over time, and only hit their target once they physically get there?

[jagged socket]

yea

[smoky dock]

The target is probably moving as well

[jagged socket]

i can only see this being a thing for bosses that move too much constantly

most bosses dont move THAT much tho

and theyre big targets

[smoky dock]

Still, it's important to consider

Especially when you keep in mind that weapons that're harder to use (such as ones with poor accuracy, slow projectiles, don't home at all, etc) tend to be stronger

Weapons that can comfortably operate at all ranges against all targets at all times with little difficulty tend to be weaker to compensate for their ease of use

[jagged socket]

unrelated but i hate the platinum coin dmg nerf on eternity i was looking forward to using coin gun and seven strikers for the first time

[smoky dock]

(exceptions exist of course but the devs do try to keep that true)

[pallid tide]

the close you are, the wider angle you can vary while still hitting, and also a moving target is easier to predict when the projectile will hit earlier

[smoky dock]

platinum coins are just really stupid overpowered broken holy shit busted fuckin woah broken overpowered

[jagged socket]

75% dmg nerf is insane tho

[smoky dock]

eternity mode gives you a ton of ways to make money quickly so platinum coins lose their only limiting factor, that being opportunity cost

[pallid tide]

its the same reason a fast projectile is preferable to a slow one, theres a lower travel time so you have to do less thinking about where the boss will be when the projectile would hit

its the same tradeoff as boss distance

[jagged socket]

i have never considered projectile speed lol

[smoky dock]

faster projectiles are easier to hit since fast projectiles can get as close to the ideal "click on bad guy to hit"

[pallid tide]

well because you cant switch up your projectile speed on the fly, but you can for distance from the boss

[smoky dock]

yppers

[pallid tide]

and also there are multiple places in the game for rouge at least where there is a choice between a slower and faster projectile weapon

[smoky dock]

that's true for any class

[jagged socket]

the angle thing actually helps a lot to understand

[pallid tide]

yeah i just couldnt think of any examples off the top of my head other than rogue

[celest kestrel]

is adamantite or daedalus armour better for eternity mage?

[smoky dock]

they're both OK

[pallid tide]

imo its still not as impactful as time to hit

[smoky dock]

imo that stage has some impressively good armor balancing so you could reasonably take advantage of any armor set

[pallid tide]

but yes it does make a difference

[jagged socket]

on the topic of projectile speed, is this worth using for ranger? depends on the weapon and ammo ig?

[smoky dock]

as with any Fargo's Souls item I'd suggest that you craft it and use it for a little bit and see how well it works for you

if you don't like it, that's OK, you can put it away in storage for later. You'll be needing it later anyways!

[jagged socket]

its annoying to get the items to craft them tho

[rare jacinth]

You'll need it eventually regardless

[smoky dock]

Better get them now when you can actually take advantage of the enchantment

[jagged socket]

oh

[smoky dock]

Later on you'll be like "UGHHHHHH I fuckin hate crafting this D O G S H I T i'm not even gonna use ughhhhhhhh"

You'll need every enchantment eventually so... Get crackin'!

[rare jacinth]

how's the current state of the souls-cal dlc? has it gotten any updates? last i played, calclone was the last altered boss outside of old duke and exo mechs

[jagged socket]

every enchantment????????

[smoky dock]

every enchantment

[pallid tide]

(i know that theres no boss in the game that moves like this) but in a similar sense, the farther you are, the less of an idea youll have of where the boss will be by the time your attack reaches them, so if youre closer you have less travel time to account for

[jagged socket]

i was gonna skip most of them

[smoky dock]

plus some other tiems

dont

[misty gyro]

I love how u can just punch draedon after beating exo mechs

[jagged socket]

they seem mid as hell

most of them

[smoky dock]

mid, bad, overpowered, doesn't matter

get them all

[misty gyro]

i had no idea what was going on that entire fight,, get smacked in the face

[smoky dock]

look at the items that require Divine Geodes to craft

[jagged socket]

even the dlc ones?

[smoky dock]

yhar

[jagged socket]

argh

[smoky dock]

i'd suggest you do this

[jagged socket]

how would i do that (i dont know how to properly use recipe browser)

[smoky dock]

Open Recipe Browser using whichever hotkey you have bound it to

Then, in the Items tab (it's green), search Divine Geode

Double click on it.

[jagged socket]

those are tabs??????????

[smoky dock]

Yep, the little shitters at the top

[jagged socket]

oh yea they are

i didnt notice

i only used the normal one so far

recipes

[smoky dock]

Once you double click it, then you'll be zapped over to the Recipes tab, only with Divine Geodes put into the little box on the top left

(If you put an item in that little box, then it'll show all recipes that involve that item)

(double clicking is a fast-track to do that)

experiment with recipe browser and figure out how to use it because it is a divine gift from god

[jagged socket]

frankly i have to admit this is the first time im playing cal without cheat sheet to cheat in the boring useless items i hate grinding
this is gonna take a long time

[rare jacinth]

how's the current state of the souls-cal dlc? has it gotten any updates? last i played, calclone was the last altered boss outside of old duke and exo mechs

[jagged socket]

why are there ? on some items in recipe browser

[gloomy mist]

do you have hotog

[jagged socket]

like this

[jagged socket]

yes

[rare jacinth]

yeah

[gloomy mist]

yeah i think you have to kill goozma for that

[rare jacinth]

it does that to shadowspec items pre goozma

you can toggle it in the config

[jagged socket]

what mod is crystyl crusher from?

[rare jacinth]

Calamity

[minor nacelle]

its kind of a shame that goozmas weapons get outshadowed so quickly by shadowspec stuff

[jagged socket]

its shadowspec too?

[rare jacinth]

Yes

[rare jacinth]

To be fair, Goozma is on the same tier as Exos and SCal

[jagged socket]

i fought goozma last

after exos and scal

[rare jacinth]

3rd final boss is crazy

[minor nacelle]

I tried fighting them first, but i had no luck

even after scal and exo, i barely did it

maybe im just bad

[jagged socket]

does this still reflect if it takes more than 200 dmg in 1 hit

[minor nacelle]

i dont know how to dodge the second phase at all

[jagged socket]

also is it only projectiles DIRECTLY above me??

also this might not be the place to ask but is it important to learn to use grappling hooks

ive never used hooks outside the very early game when i have no other movement

[minor nacelle]

hooks are fairly important i'd say, ye

the hook of disonance can save you from quite a few dangers

it has a bit of a learning curve to it but once you get it, its pretty nice

[weak fulcrum]

anyone got any tips for astralgeldon (mage)?

[pallid tide]

someone please tell me theres like an easy trick for solo ares

[pallid tide]

idk if i would have any tips in general if you maybe wanna stream some gameplay

its been a min since i fought it

[weak fulcrum]

no, sorry

[pallid tide]

ok well what i would do is maybe look at a nohit or any run on youtube and see if theyre doing any strategies that you havent thought of

[weak fulcrum]

progress is progress i guess

[pallid tide]

idk if youve played infernum before, but im currently up to exo mechs and i think the only boss harder than astrageldon so far was profaned guardians

[short jasper]

how do WotM exomechs work, HP wise?

[nimble valley]

what was the exo mechs item that drops but is locked before you beat the nameless diety

[pine pewter]

Hyperplane Matrix?

[restive cobalt]

I alr am doing that

I js switched classes again fishing is mindless

[odd stone]

Só me and my friend are trying to run the hardest mix of calamity Fargo’s and other mods possible any suggestions, we want to have a long time on this

[sullen surge]

Do masochist death

Very difficult

[fading dove]

if youre going for hardest you want to drop cal and just play masoleg

and if youre doing for actual hardest you drop literally everything and get satanist mode and its dependencies

[frank mauve]

why not do masoex before

[odd stone]

And when I did that it wasn’t Rly hard

Boss die easy

Simple patters

[frozen halo]

how to make so i dont just lag rlly much on exo mechs

[night fractal]

Add Lore Accurate Devourer of Gods

Actually

That's probably not multiplayer compatible

[pallid tide]

omfg can artemis stop flying off the top of the screen while its doing the rotating attack

[frank mauve]

best attack

[pallid tide]

this boss sucksssssss

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866699859813859352/1486815716341710909/IMG_6917.gif

[weak fulcrum]

7 percent more

[fading dove]

whats the gimmick

[minor nacelle]

ok I guess nameless Deity just despawned???????

[weak fulcrum]

idk maybe gods just get bored sometimes bro

[pallid tide]

who is this responding to

[minor nacelle]

mage cant be THAT abhorrently bad that god just straight up dips on first sight

[weak fulcrum]

there is no gimmick i just suck

[fading dove]

mage has the second best shadowspec weapon so its pretty good

staff of blushie is fucking insane if youre good at moving

[minor nacelle]

i dont actually know how good or bad all the classes are, i just see people make fun of mage a lot for some reason

[fading dove]

mage as of 2.0.7.2 was the on average worst class

however, it was still good

mage is better now

[minor nacelle]

just did a whole mage playthrough, didnt feel like i was underpowered at any point

[fading dove]

its about tied for third with melee and ranger

which are ofc behind rogue and summoner

rogue just kinda does that

[weak fulcrum]

ew summoner

[minor nacelle]

summoner is actually pretty fun, when 1.4.5 came out i did my first summoner playthrough

its a shame the base calamity doesnt like whips for some reason

[fading dove]

its because calamity balanced summoner and then vanilla added free summon damage buttons so now its a nightmare to balance summoner

[weak fulcrum]

good lord that attempt was awful

[minor nacelle]

whips were added 6 years ago
though to be fair, calamity was pretty slow with updating

[fading dove]

no

[minor nacelle]

eh?

may 16th 2020? thats 6 years ago

[fading dove]

lemme try and find when tmod updated to 1.4

because calamity is not made in terraria

its made in tmodloader

so they had to wait for tmodloader to update

[weak fulcrum]

since mage is pretty fragile

what candle is best to not die

resilient or vigorous

[plush kettle]

what does the sakura bud do?

[minor nacelle]

but they knew whips were a thing before tmod updated, didnt they?

[weak fulcrum]

i just remembered about these thingies but since its an infinite flight boss i dont need the speed one

[fading dove]

i like weightless because mage isnt fragile if you know how to build

[minor nacelle]

oh well, whatever, im sure it'll be resolved some day

[orchid ivy]

Well they werent gonna balance content for an update that didnt come out yet did they

[fading dove]

a couple weeks to completely rebalance an entire class across the entire game

[minor nacelle]

obviously whips shouldnt have been rebalanced immediently
but a bit of time has passed now

[weak fulcrum]

yeah but since the arena is so small for astralgeldon and the flight is infinite the wing buffs wont be so helpful

[fading dove]

the seal isnt that small

[weak fulcrum]

seems pretty limiting to me

[misty gyro]

Avatar of emptiness sucked me into a rift and it crashed my game

Bro wtf

[weak fulcrum]

especially during that one invincible dash sequence where the arena gradually shrinks

[fading dove]

shoutout deep geldon
https://youtu.be/eBm_OsdxTZQ

[misty gyro]

Is that normal

[gloomy mist]

doubt it

[weak fulcrum]

how and why did it take an hour??

[fading dove]

mobility used here:
empress wings
absorber
2.0.7.2 reaver tank helm (-30% movement speed)

[fading dove]

2

it was practise for 24 Heures de Geldon

[weak fulcrum]

my skill issue hitting real deep after seeing this

[weak fulcrum]

wuzzat

[orchid ivy]

24 hours of a boss?

[weak fulcrum]

also WHY?

[fading dove]

think 24 Heures du Mans except instead of sarthe, france its geldon

[sonic valley]

why am i struggling with crabulon this badly

[orchid ivy]

So you do fight the boss for 24 hours?

[fading dove]

yeah

ofc with breaks in between

[orchid ivy]

[fading dove]

the problem isnt gonna be surviving that long its gonna be letting geldon live that long

[orchid ivy]

I could never

[pallid tide]

guys whats the item youre meant to get from mars it died offscreen and didnt drop anything

[weak fulcrum]

paper airplane gaming

[misty gyro]

Ok so its supposed to be another phase but it jusst like

Its over

[minor nacelle]

ok apparently i did something to upset the deity so much that whenever i enter the garden, my game crashes.
how fun

[minor nacelle]

the crashing is not normal

[misty gyro]

Does anyone know how to make it like

Not do that

[sonic valley]

even though it's infernal rag on master mode. i usually beat crab really quick

[minor nacelle]

what other mods do you have enabled?

[sage moat]

anyone have tips for infernum provi?

[sullen surge]

Crabulon has always seemed like a pointless boss to me

[misty gyro]

maybe its a lighting mod or something

[minor nacelle]

oh that could actually be the case

[sonic valley]

like am i doing too little damage?

maybe i'll go fight EoW then go back

[misty gyro]

Wasnt

[minor nacelle]

do you have terraria ambience mod on?

[misty gyro]

lemme check

[odd stone]

Só me and my friend are trying to run the hardest mix of calamity Fargo’s and other mods possible any suggestions, we want to have a long time on this-harder than masociat death

[weak fulcrum]

FINALLY

[fading dove]

if you want hardest you drop cal and only play with the bare minimum required for satanist

[misty gyro]

Dont have it but i got Another idea

[misty gyro]

W

[weak fulcrum]

also what does that mean btw

[misty gyro]

Metanova ore in astral infection cavverns

u can make intergelactic and its really good

Like i was fighting DoG in intergelactic summoner armor

[weak fulcrum]

11 attempts. sweet

[weak fulcrum]

guess i know what im killing moonlord with then

[misty gyro]

o ya and u can make upgraded auric stuff

[fading dove]

more of a sidegrade

[minor nacelle]

anything that interacts with tiles or uses special rendering techniques may come into question

[misty gyro]

cozy homes probably did i t

[fading dove]

drops the tarragon set bonus for intergelactic's but each piece gives 6 more defence

some classes want tarragon's set bonus like rogue

[misty gyro]

that is what im removing now,,

[minor nacelle]

the intergelactic set bonuses can also be pretty nifty, the mage one is pretty good

iirc the ranger one is also really good

[odd stone]

Hasn’t satanist never been beaten might be a bit much

[fading dove]

well you want hardest

[misty gyro]

i removed it and i was able to stay in the game for 1 second longer

This is game changing stuff the avatar of emptiness doesnt stand a chance

[lofty mist]

What if I use journey mode though

Because that doesn’t require downloading any mods

So technically I can beat satanist mode while in godmode

[fading dove]

cluebed~1

also that doesnt follow the rules

a real sata clear follows the guidelines set for the prize

[misty gyro]

I disabled all of my graphics mods and its still crashing my game

[minor nacelle]

what there are prizes for beating difficulties?

[misty gyro]

i wonder if spirit mod fucked it up

Idk why it would but it Couldve maybe

[minor nacelle]

is it the old or the new spirit?

[misty gyro]

I got both i thoroughly slopped my mod list

[lofty mist]

That’s the yardis challenge right

[minor nacelle]

do you have that salt epitome thingy in your world?

[misty gyro]

The salt flats didnt generate

[minor nacelle]

savanna?

[misty gyro]

O ya i got that

[minor nacelle]

maybe some unique block there is messing up the third phase

[misty gyro]

I think im just gonna restart honestly i cant just Remove a big ass content mod like that

[minor nacelle]

the game hides all tiles and disables collision or something like that

[minor nacelle]

quite unfortunate

[misty gyro]

fargos should probabl ybe fine tho,, gonna add that instead of spirit

[minor nacelle]

Fargo only adds quality of life and or eternity mode anyways, right?

should be fine

[misty gyro]

i already had mutant im adding souls

got some cool accessories and bosses i think

Gonna disable luiafk too cause thats Loong overdue

[minor nacelle]

use journey mode instead
its kinda underrated

[frozen halo]

CRO EXO MECHS ARE IMPOSIBLE

[misty gyro]

true,,,,,,,

[nimble valley]

what does it do?

[pine pewter]

Whole bunch of stuff

Time control, butcher tool, invincibility, infinite omnidirectional flight

[mystic quiver]

did an oopsie and destroyed this queen bee larva so I had to literally come back just to get in so I can farm snapthorn mats 💔

sigh, no chest or hornets

funny timing to be finding the goblin tinkerer

[sonic valley]

finally and yes i know 6 mins on crab. i am doing bard and was probably a bit underprepared

[mystic quiver]

garden and temple found, I know vernal pass is just directly below me now

[mystic quiver]

need I say more

[late hound]

Okay but like, what if you fought calshadow in hell

with little to no dodging room

and meowthrower

[acoustic widget]

Does anyone know how I can fix this?

[night fractal]

turn frame skip off so it slows down instead of slideshows

that's about it

[pearl ore]

What is ur pc specs and what mods u using?

[solar torrent]

Does anybody else have issues with the High FPS support mod while playing calamity? i often go under 140 fps in some bossfights / crowded areas and it does really feel less smooth

ive got a pretty decent pc which runs most games at 144fps , so i doubt that my pc is the problem

[acoustic widget]

i have a rx 7600 8gb vram and a ryzen 7 5700

and mods like overhaul catalyst wrath of the gods and calamity infernum of course

[acoustic widget]

same

[solar torrent]

i have a nvidia video card so i suppose it isnt a specific issue to amd/nvidia cards

[fading dove]

terraria does not run at more than 60fps and high fps support doeos not change this

[solar torrent]

you are right, tho it feels simillar to fps stutters

a better question would be if its possible to maintain that 'smoothness' from the High FPS support mod even in more crowded/demanding areas

[steep cobalt]

@jagged socket i'd like to suggest enchantments you should tailor towards
tungsten (increased weapon size and the shockwave effect)
ancient cobalt (the explosion jump is genuinely obscene)
molten enchantment (magiluminescence but better)
bee enchantment
aerialite enchantment (good if you can utilize it properly)
statigel enchantment (the maximum damage is a bit deceiving due to the formula prohibiting it from being attainable, but still not something negligible)
silver enchantment if you have ample reaction speed
shadow enchantment (shadow orbs can supplement your damage by quite a bit)

and then there're the utility enchantments to assuage grinding like wood, platinum and iron

those are the pertinent enchantments at your disposal

[smoky dock]

silver enchantment?

more like

peak enchantment

[pearl ore]

i need full mod list.

Also you can try to enable "disable fullscreen optimization" to dotnet.exe in tmodloader folder.

[wary robin]

infernum power scaling is insane
u go from wof being like 15k hp to cryogen 110k

[pearl ore]

It is single core and mod conflicts problem

[pearl ore]

Ares in fargo+calamity have 15kk hp, infernum have same hp scale?

[wary robin]

kk being million ?

[pearl ore]

yep

[pearl ore]

it is basic calamity stats

[wary robin]

isnt infernum a calamity difficulty

[pearl ore]

fargo souls+calamity is also new difficulty

also i may be wrong and it wasn't 15kk but 150kk 💀

Sheesh

[wary robin]

1650 mil wtf

[pearl ore]

Looks like HP scaling is lower in Infernum.

[fading dove]

no thats quite a bit higher

7.36m in inf vs 6.624m in rev

[pearl ore]

Umm, death mode have 8.445. wdym?

[fading dove]

why would i be comparing inf to death

death is a completely different difficulty

rev and inf are both expert

death is master

[pearl ore]

Maybe because topic was about hp scaling?

[tulip plinth]

does anyone use calamity boss music but its sung by me

[oak iris]

guys why is goozma's fight bugged
no like i used to seeing the hallowed slime's star attack having 8 of them but now its 5

did goozma got a nerf

[late hound]

So like

how do you dodge the Infernum daytime empress sun attack?

[smoky dock]

There are two subphases to that attack

[smoky dock]

The first can be avoided by moving in a large square centered on the moon

[late hound]

sun*

[smoky dock]

Make sharp turns and only move in straight lines

Yeah same thing

Stolen Celestial Object

Don't orbit too tightly, otherwise you'll run out of space and hit one of the static lasers

[late hound]

makes sense

[smoky dock]

In the second subphase, go fast.

Very, very fast.

Orbit the sun as tightly as you can

Don't move in straight lines, instead try to keep turning

During the day the megalaser moves faster so it's nearly impossible to go too fast

[late hound]

I see

square in the first phase, tight circle in the second phase

I can do that

[smoky dock]

Yep

If you want a visual example of it just watch a nohit

[late hound]

Well, I survived the attack

then immediately died to the next attack

gaming

[warped bloom]

Hey, I have lots of addons... How can I decide then which weapons are the best? Based on damage?

[pearl ore]

Try to dodge Radiance Empress of Light

[hollow fossil]

ahem wrath of the machines exo mechs?

i swear its harder than infernum exo mechs

[fading dove]

eternity exos are free

https://youtu.be/vMVB444Y0Bg

[late hound]

...

I no-hit the attack

[fading dove]

gg

[late hound]

Almost died to the swords attack after, but was able to double rip past them

If only I hadn't submitted my no-hit journey already. I would have gone back and done daytime empress as my no-hit

[pearl ore]

These too i think.
But i mean EoL from Radiance mod

[hollow fossil]

i havent really gone much into the addons in difficulty except for infernum and wrath of the machines so

[fading dove]

not an addon

its a standalone mod

[hollow fossil]

i see

[pearl ore]

Well, it works with Calamity tbh

Best Empress imo.

[pine pewter]

How well does Purity work with sentries?

[brittle plinth]

anyone know how to make DoG fight less laggy on multiplayer infernum?

14 attemps

[pearl ore]

Attack faster? Yes? Works
No? Not works

Oh wait, its from RoR2, we talking baout calamity

😂

Still applies same to infernum one

[pearl ore]

Gimme your full modlist

enable "disable fullscreen optimization" on dotnet.exe of your tmodloader. it can slightly help.

Make sure that both your friend and you uses same frameskip on or off
run .bat server, not in-game option.

Pray for god's can also work.

[elder rain]

im so annoyed, im doing a ranger infernum run, i cant even progress because the stupid lunatic is too hard

[pine pewter]

Cultist of all bosses

Anyways Eventide/Chain Gun/Arietes + GBeer

[elder rain]

literally

chain gun 😭

deadass?

[pine pewter]

yes

Ever used chain gun with chloro bullets in vanilla?

[elder rain]

i have

[pine pewter]

Now imagine that but you can use a good bullet with even more busted homing

[elder rain]

oh my god i see what youre trying to tell me

is my loadout good tho?

[pine pewter]

it's one of those loadouts

it just feels wrong

[elder rain]

one of those? 😭

[pine pewter]

but when you look closely you can't see much wrong

maybe get a eye of the golem

[elder rain]

before the deadshot brooch, i had charm of myths

[dusk niche]

Maybe swap community for sum else

[pine pewter]

and destroyer emblem ig

how many bosses have you killed?

[elder rain]

all up until lunatic minus empress

[dusk niche]

I think the celestial charm or whatevee that should maybe be changed

If i remember it buffa melee a bit

[elder rain]

i had charm of myths so i could heal quicker

[pine pewter]

then you can keep community

Angel treads is a bit iffy

I'd swap it out for Eye of The Golem

[elder rain]

my friend is strugging on death mode on Meelee out of all classes 💀

not wall, on destroyer

[elder rain]

ill try

[pine pewter]

bruh

[elder rain]

also should i have dmg% or crit% on reforges? i can never tell tbh

[pine pewter]

if you're using grape beer, go menacing

until post-ml where you get daawnlight spirit origin

[elder rain]

im doing chain gun and chloro

[pine pewter]

and then you kill every boss in 50 seconds

[pine pewter]

No chloro

Chain Gun + Exploding bullets (unless bug was fixed) + Grape beer

You also want a black hawk remote with hyperius bullets

or you can use deadshot brooch ammo swap

[elder rain]

how do i get it so they use the hype bullets and i use exploding ones

[pine pewter]

You could just use brooch ammo swap

[late hound]

Cant believe i have to actually fight Signus in hell now

[pine pewter]

rip

[late hound]

cant just magic mirror and have him tp to me

[pine pewter]

Did you do your Signus nohit in hell or on the surface?

[elder rain]

he has a desperation phase...

i fucking hate it here

WHY

DOES HE HAVE

A DESPERATION PHASE

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

try 28 i guess

[oak iris]

what bug?

2 instances of damage i believe?

i think it still happens

as far as im aware, it still does more damage than any of the other bullets at that stage of the game

which is pretty WILD.

[elder rain]

i hate this guy with a passion

[pine pewter]

yea

[oak iris]

its still happening as of now i believe

when was the last update?

i think its still happening

when i was dps testing the ranged weapon with grape beer i messed around with bullets

the highest damaging ones to the lowest ones

and then i came across exploding bullets

while the other bullets dealt at least below 3-4k dps, exploding bullets dealt at least above 5k dps

considering that this is a bullet you could get early in hardmode idk if this is broken or not

i was during like the pre-moonlord phase at that time

void beater

was it?

no its vortex

[elder rain]

I HATE YOUUUUUUUU

THE HATRED I HAVE FOR YOU IS INSATIABLE

YOU WERE WORSE THAN THE DESTROYER

THIRTY ONE ATTEMPTS

[oak iris]

go get the vortex beater with exploding bullets + grape beer

deals at least 5k DPS

😭

phantasm deals more dps with holy arrows but faster projectiles are at least good

also use specifically unholy arrows against astrum deus

it works trust

[elder rain]

holyyyy ur right

[steep cobalt]

sniper/recon scope

[elder rain]

naw

[steep cobalt]

why?

[elder rain]

not that good imo

[steep cobalt]

10% damage and crit for recon

15% crit damage and 10% crit for sniper

"not that good" is an asinine remark

i can eschew community for either

optionally, angel treads are quite redundant now that you have fishron wings

[elder rain]

wth is recon anyways 😭

[steep cobalt]

recon scope

[elder rain]

oh wait mb

[steep cobalt]

it's a sidegrade to sniper scope in calamity

trading off crit damage for plain normal damage

use sniper scope if your crit chance is adequately high enough

i see that you're using grape beer though so recon scope instead

[elder rain]

26% crit... huh

[steep cobalt]

then yeah i'd dissuade you from using sniper

[elder rain]

i dont like using snipers anyways 😭

too slow

[steep cobalt]

i mean sniper scope

[oak iris]

fair enough

[steep cobalt]

not sniper in general

[oak iris]

theres not a lot of sniper weapons that is good or at least one that is ranged anyway (im looking at you VOLTERION.)

[steep cobalt]

nullification pistol is funny

[elder rain]

DUDE I LITERALLY POTTED

APPARENTLY NOT??

[steep cobalt]

what

[elder rain]

A MILISECOND DIFFERENCE

[steep cobalt]

why the terse belligerent tone

[elder rain]

i got to 2nd phase ML but apparently not 😭

[steep cobalt]

i can suggest vortexpopper

[elder rain]

what that

[oak iris]

i would say dont since grape beer already homes in to enemies like

very aggressively

[elder rain]

oh wait that one weapon

[steep cobalt]

the 75% crit damage reduction doesn't bode well with me

though i've yet to glean into scorched earth + grape beer

but for now, that's my sentiment

[oak iris]

breaths in
30k dps with mini nukes without daawnlight spirit origin.

yeah im not shitting

[steep cobalt]

yeah i won't refute that

[oak iris]

but its your choice if you want to use it or not.

[steep cobalt]

wisdomlick

[oak iris]

i'd say just stick to whatever how you work with it.

besides theres other weapons you could use without grape beer anyway

[steep cobalt]

i do want to trifle with the alcohols

like moonshine on a bulky build with bloodflare core

[oak iris]

wait i haven tried that

which class is the most tankiest rn

[steep cobalt]

anything really

it doesn't have to be stringent on a single class

though the most obvious is still melee

[elder rain]

aight whats the strat for ML? same shit? only with vortex

wait lemme try to deal with Deus first

got him to 11%

[tranquil yarrow]

I guess Recon Scope over treads cuz realistically you're not touching the ground for more than half a second in majority of the rest of the fights. Dunno what shield of the high ruler does for me to comment though I suppose Golem Eye over community and if you really wanna damage max throw sniper scope somewhere.

[elder rain]

forgor to update screenie

here

[tranquil yarrow]

Guess recon scope over community then.

[elder rain]

shield of high is just eye cthulhu shield but better ig?

[tranquil yarrow]

Huh.

Never really bothered cuz Asgards is right there but since you're about to go into ML Asgard's is just a glorified dodge roll and default dash has you more than covered for what ML throws your way when you need to change direction quickly.

Asgards for Deus I will use cuz that boss is a lobotomy and a half lol

[oak iris]

this is infernum right

you could get a better option for like the hydrothermic armor

which is lunic corps

if you even have a surface mushroom biome 😭

[elder rain]

i had to beat astrom deos to get astral ore

which i just did

now im gonna go eat astral ore

[inland epoch]

wait can you not get grand scales pre cultist in infernum

do great sand sharks not spawn

instead theres bereft vassal

whos after golem and cultist and pillars

[oak iris]

well technically you could if you beat astrum deus first before all of those bosses

[inland epoch]

i just wanted sand shark tooth necklace

[deep tulip]

wait is this arena usually right above hell or is this just a crazy seed

[dense ocean]

RNG.

[deep tulip]

my dungeon reached all the way down there lmao

[ember hatch]

yep its normal

its kinda of the arena for ceaseless void

[deep tulip]

also had the astral drop next to spawn, so this seed is just full of things ive never done before

yeah ive done infernum before, just didnt realize this could be so low

[ember hatch]

and if u have infernum, you can see ceaseless void chained in there

[deep tulip]

ill probably just dig up from hell rather then go through the dungeon lol

[ember hatch]

can just put a brimstone crag pylon below XD

for easy access

[ebon zephyr]

photovis thingy or magnomaly cannon for infernum scal?

[undone cypress]

chat is infernum and remnants mod compatible together?

or will i miss out on sm stuff?

[frozen halo]

WHY IS THIS RIFT SO BIG

[undone cypress]

it be like that

dw

[frozen halo]

alr

i need to beat exo mechs but they are rlly hard

imposible they are

[undone cypress]

chat?

[fading dove]

no

[undone cypress]

this soo ominous

too bad my friend quit

😵‍💫

[undone cypress]

dang

alr

thx

[digital basin]

Heya, so i just started a calamity+wrath of the gods , what should i go for? im trying to do mage class

[ebon zephyr]

can anyone help? she does have a home

[hardy sapphire]

the house destroyed it prob

just replace the flag to another place

[frozen halo]

oh wwait

exo mechs are possible i was playing with wrath of machines

[hardy sapphire]

bro

they are easier in wrath of machines

my opinion

[frozen halo]

THEY ARE NOT

[ebon zephyr]

yyup thanks it worked

[frozen halo]

i got to final phase of thanatos and in wrath of machines i could even get to phase 2 of anything

[hardy sapphire]

m

idk

[inland epoch]

every single fucking time

8 minute fight

holy fuck i hate this fight

every time i play infernum i get fucked for 8 minutes straight

[steep cobalt]

why is it taking you so long?

are you hampering yourself for the fight time to be this extrapolated?

[inland epoch]

because providence sucks shit

my loadout is suboptimal

[steep cobalt]

no, providence should never take that long

[steep cobalt]

then upgrade it

[inland epoch]

every

single

time

[steep cobalt]

maybe it's your fault for deterring yourself with your paltry loadout

i usually defeat providence in 2 to 3 minutes

[ebon zephyr]

guys my wrath of the god bugged out so i had to redo the whole solyn quest but since i already opened this door bc of me alr doing the quest before shes bugged and i cant talk to her what do i do

[inland epoch]

its maxed, but suboptimal for damage. i literally always play with defensive loadouts/homing weapons. provi is like this every time and every other boss is fun even if it takes 5 minutes for like scal

[steep cobalt]

...or maybe you've been fighting her enraged form

[inland epoch]

no lmao

[steep cobalt]

but that's unlikely

[inland epoch]

i remembered to switch to day

for the first time

[steep cobalt]

uh loadout please

[inland epoch]

hold on im making a new accessory

[steep cobalt]

maybe i can make adjustments

[inland epoch]

you will probably change like everything

as a have a ram dash that i forgot to remove after guards

[steep cobalt]

i'm a defense aficionado and i usually defeat her within the usual interval

[oak iris]

i gotta say the same here

so unless you're restricting yourself to a single weapon type (like spears, hammers, etc)

there is no goddamn way you finished that in 8 mins

[inland epoch]

well 4:16 for 48%

[oak iris]

dude. what were you using.

and what loadout.

[inland epoch]

hold on

so what i would do is get statis' belt and some offensive accessory to change the amalgamated brain which will be removed

also im really not sure about grape beer and planetary annihilation

[ebon zephyr]

no dmg accessories 😭

[steep cobalt]

yeah get rid of grape beer

[ebon zephyr]

except 1

[inland epoch]

false

[inland epoch]

i had daawnlight but provi so fat i cant hit the targets with my weapon

[steep cobalt]

grape beer and sniper scope are disparate with one another

[inland epoch]

wait

[ebon zephyr]

also why ru not using recon scope instead

[inland epoch]

planetary is homing

[steep cobalt]

like why even use something that is detrimental to your crit damage with something that can't even alleviate that?

[steep cobalt]

yes

[inland epoch]

because i crafted it into daawnlight

[inland epoch]

oops

[oak iris]

at this point of the game

[ebon zephyr]

can anyone help tho

[oak iris]

dont use grape beer on like fat targets if you dont have the means of hitting it consistently

[steep cobalt]

you don't or you do?

[oak iris]

with daawn i mean

FUCK

😭

i forgot to say that

daawn is good but is it good when you cant even hit it?

[inland epoch]

i didnt know planetary had homing

[oak iris]

i do not know.

[inland epoch]

oh so my guards fight was like 1 min longer for no reason

nah actually is was only 2:28 its fine

[inland epoch]

so do i go do that

[oak iris]

to be fair infernum provi doesnt have contact damage so you might as well.

[inland epoch]

im getting lunic corps too

[oak iris]

get 2 damaging accesories, recon scope + either sand shark tooth necklace or dynamo stem cells

[inland epoch]

for both i have to kill another boss

hmm

what do i choose

[inland epoch]

isnt sniper scope better

[oak iris]

it only gives more ranged crit damage

not more damage for ranged

[inland epoch]

crit and crit dmg

[reef torrent]

thats basically the same thing

[oak iris]

what do you mean

isnt recon scope gives more damage to ranged

and not crit damage

sniper scope only adds more crit damage and chance

[reef torrent]

what

[oak iris]

?????????????????????????

[digital basin]

Heya, so i just started a calamity+wrath of the gods , what should i go for? im trying to do mage class

[reef torrent]

yeah

seems good to me

[oak iris]

you could go with anything

[reef torrent]

mage goat

[digital basin]

yea but i mean what should i farm for first in terms of gear/weap

[reef torrent]

like

pre-boss?

[oak iris]

mage probably is the best for WOTG

[digital basin]

first time trying mage so idk really what to go with

[hardy sapphire]

wheres wires

[digital basin]

like pre anything ;D

[reef torrent]

get diamond staff

its good

[oak iris]

its only crit damage not ranged damage 😭 ???

[reef torrent]

basically the same thing

60% crit chance is essentially just damage atp

[reef torrent]

also immediately go for jungle armour

[digital basin]

with plat bar and 8 diamond?

[reef torrent]

yeah

frostbolt is also good

[digital basin]

uhm, my world has gold not plat ;D

[reef torrent]

if you cant find 8 diamonds

[reef torrent]

theyre interchangable

in calamity

[digital basin]

how so?

[reef torrent]

both works

any plat bar

so gold also works

[digital basin]

ah lemme see then how i make plat

[hardy sapphire]

platinum

[reef torrent]

i think you can just immediately craft plat with gold

maybe its a mod that i have

[oak iris]

sigh demon altar.

on a demon altar.

i dont think you can get platinum on a gold world without some QoL mods

[hardy sapphire]

isnt that a fargos thing

mutant

[oak iris]

yeah

it is

[reef torrent]

i dont have fargos tho

[reef torrent]

you can also get amber staff

its pretty good

[hardy sapphire]

idk the

[fading dove]

you can

[hardy sapphire]

vortex time

[fading dove]

shimmer demonite ore

"what if my world is crimson" shimmer crimtane ore to demonite

[hardy sapphire]

wth is your name

[reef torrent]

goated name

tbh

[digital basin]

i have topaz staff rn

[reef torrent]

yeah well topaz staff sucks booty in modes above classic

[hardy sapphire]

no.

[digital basin]

i see

[reef torrent]

amber staff shoots thrice

while diamond staff is just a stat stick

[digital basin]

welp i cant make either yet xD

[reef torrent]

frost bolt is also good

you just need one sapphire and a visit to the tundra

you also would need this for future crafting recipes

[oak iris]

get the veering wind as well

[digital basin]

well ima go to the forest rn to try and get forest armor

[reef torrent]

check dm

also you mean jungle armour?

[digital basin]

yes

[minor nacelle]

what the hell
the indication from Nameless Deities final attack is gone??

[celest kestrel]

unfortunate circumstance

damage is still ass

[fading dove]

probably because youre using hallowed armour and a weak weapon

[celest kestrel]

what should i be eusing

[fading dove]

like nebula blaze

[celest kestrel]

i havent beaten golem

or cultist

[fading dove]

so why are you fighting geldon

[celest kestrel]

got the summon

[minor nacelle]

thats the spirit
but yeah they're right before moonlord, a superboss aswell

[digital basin]

goddamn it, army ants deal so much dmg

[delicate osprey]

the real question is why are you fighting him with 7 plat on you

[celest kestrel]

that was a mistake

i thought i put in bank

[fiery mango]

No the real question is WHAT is your inventory

[delicate osprey]

i stopped questioning players' inventories at some point

[fiery mango]

Half of these players are freaking bots

They have to be

[celest kestrel]

what do yo umean

the items or the inventory management

[digital basin]

what happens if i kill a strange bulb?

[fiery mango]

BOTH

You have 8 Wooden Arrows
The Frigidflash Bolt
80 Flares
Random ass accessories in the inventory

WHAT are you doing

[celest kestrel]

that was my weapon like an hour ago i forgot to remove it

[fiery mango]

"damage is ass"
YOUR SLOT 1 IS ENCHANTED SWORD

NONE OF THESE EXCEPT RAZORBLADE TYPHOON IS ON TIER

[celest kestrel]

razorblade typhoon is what i was using

[fiery mango]

Just put the others away

[digital basin]

oke im going insane, keep getting one shot from the dudes that drop vines

[celest kestrel]

is this better

[fiery mango]

Better

[jagged socket]

does the jungle enchantment's dash not exist? (souls dlc)

or is its dash the same as basecal dash leading to it seeming like it doesnt exist

i doubt that

[ebon zephyr]

chat ive beaten goozma and scal, what should be my endgame weapon for nameless deity and stuff as ranger

[odd steeple]

the shadowspec bar weapon you can craft

exo and goozma weapon i guess

[ebon zephyr]

yeah but theres alot of weps i can craft and idk which one the best one is

[odd steeple]

what class are you playing ?

[ebon zephyr]

rnage

r

ranger

[odd steeple]

heavenly gale is for sure one of them

[ebon zephyr]

alr ty

[odd steeple]

void dragon ( not sure the name but its one of the guns in shadowspec)

[ebon zephyr]

thanks

[odd steeple]

not sure hows the post rework but photosysnethes or whatever the anme is, that used to be a super good weapon

thats as far as i know about ranger endgame sadly

[granite mulch]

photosynthesis is a post-plantera mage weapon

[celest kestrel]

What is fastest way to destroy sky islands pre moonlroid?

[fading dove]

city buster

theres also galactic reformers but thats way too big

that will take bites out of the surface even on a large world

[celest kestrel]

alrgith thankss

[fading dove]

do keep in mind that city busters only hit above them

so you'll have to make a little hook below for it to lay in while detonating

[young token]

molten or crimson armor for tmelee?

[smoky dock]

personal preference

molten is stronger

crimson is bulkier

(if i had to summarize them in a word there’s more nuance than just that)

[young token]

so crimson lets you get hit more?

[smoky dock]

yeppers

[celest kestrel]

are stress pills good for geldon?

[frank mauve]

no

[smoky dock]

stress pills are there for nohitters to use sometimes when the stars align and it’s allowed to be useful this one (1) time

i used them for skeletron once

[fading dove]

especially not when you have access to batshit broken accessories like wiz reaver and spectre ench

[smoky dock]

because it let me get adrenaline once per phase instead of once every other phase

[fading dove]

shoutout to how souls dlc has a straight upgrade to stress pills

and its like

ok

titan heart ench is ok

lets you butcher ravager even harder

its +70% (+100% wizzed) adrenaline charge speed when grounded

also up to 15% dr depending on how full your adrenaline is

along with the effects of stress pills

[oak iris]

the uhh

contagion

use grape beer with it

[spare holly]

^^ lame

[oak iris]

yes i know it has to wind up first but trust me

it deals a lot of damage somehow.

[oak iris]

so sorry for not playing the game your way

anyways

[spare holly]

grape beer is lame as shit

[celest kestrel]

yay

[jagged socket]

is there no easy way to get blood orange

[ebon zephyr]

very fun 12m fight avatar of emptiness

[fiery mango]

Are you looking for it for an enchantment?

[jagged socket]

grape beer is amazing, i dont use it cuz i prefer dps over homing but its great regardless

[jagged socket]

yes

[oak iris]

well you have to beat 3 mech bosses so yeah

[fiery mango]

Yeah you just gotta shake crimson trees and pray

[oak iris]

skeletron prime is the easiest

[fiery mango]

Average Fargo's horseshit

[oak iris]

the twins are like the hardest and destroyer is tanky as hell

if you dont have good piercing weapons that is.

[jagged socket]

??

wdym??

[spare holly]

thats called a sanguine tangerine

[celest kestrel]

thats a different blood oragne

[spare holly]

theyre asking about the food item

[celest kestrel]

it was renamed recent

[oak iris]

wait tf

[jagged socket]

ive tried like 4 large worlds already

no luck

[spare holly]

😭

[fading dove]

❌

lumberjack

[celest kestrel]

cant yo ushake them multipled time

[oak iris]

oh my fucking god

WHICH OEN