calamity-addon-talk

[elder nebula]

do a playthrough of base calamity first

maybe catalyst

[midnight hatch]

Ive done death mode with every class as recently as draedon update so I'm ready to add all the extra stuff provided the addons get along nicely with each other

[elder nebula]

the draedon update was 5 years ago

[untold palm]

dam

[midnight hatch]

I know but its the most recent addition to the endgame, and besides im not really looking for an opinion on how I should play the game, just on what addons are considered good

[untold palm]

uhhhhhhhh

[elder nebula]

if you wanna have a worse experience fine, the good addons are infernum, wotg, wotm, catalyst and hotog

[untold palm]

hey wotg doesn't make it a worse experience

oh wait

nvm i take that back

[elder nebula]

worse experience for what is effectively a first playthrough*

[untold palm]

but generally wotg is good

[midnight hatch]

I could do without the snark but thanks, fables is supposed to be its own self contained project right? Just wanted to clarify thats the reason you didn't include it

[elder nebula]

yeah it's standalone

[midnight hatch]

got it

[elder nebula]

and calamity overhaul should be avoided at all costs

[untold palm]

✅

[midnight hatch]

Thats the one that steals code and shit right

[untold palm]

✅?

[elder nebula]

supposedly rectified but the mod is still complete shit

[untold palm]

✅

[midnight hatch]

Yeah I wouldnt put stock in a mod that only seemingly fixed what's visible to us

ty tho and I'll still consider a base calamity run too

[elder nebula]

👍

[median kernel]

why is mommy of light so hard? (infernum)

[dense ocean]

Banned.

[median kernel]

never

[smoky dock]

Banned.

[kind peak]

Guys

Should I be worried about the red grass made by the frostblessed seed?

[smoky dock]

No

[ionic blaze]

do the illustrous knives work on avatar of emptiness

it doesnt seem to be working

[spare holly]

slime god ran away mid fight

i didnt know infernum was so lore accurate

[worthy niche]

RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[abstract jetty]

where is scoria WHERE IS HE

[humble marlin]

you ated it all 💔

[spare holly]

fights slime god
pops rippers
instantly phase change into the immune attack

[oak iris]

infernum slime god right

[spare holly]

yep

[oak iris]

which phase change twin 💔

[spare holly]

the attack where it becomes a bunch of fucking flying slimes

[oak iris]

OH

you can still damage it

[spare holly]

my dumb fuck useless minions can't hit it

[oak iris]

oh

😭

[spare holly]

this is why i NEVER play summoner

[oak iris]

either use the bee or the obsidian armor

[frank mauve]

use herrings

[oak iris]

imp staff is somehow still good here wtf

[spare holly]

yeah im running obs

[frank mauve]

evil 1/2 summons are still good

[oak iris]

the dillema of not having flying summons to catch a flying enemy

😭

i feel you

[spare holly]

crimulan slime think we cool

[oak iris]

wait is spider armor locked behind a mech boss on calamity?

i dont think so

[frank mauve]

❌

[oak iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1074819012741038180/1491928827314569386/2B5GzAB.gif

[spare holly]

?

i really like it when slime god runs away mid fight

[frank mauve]

i like it when i skip slime god

[spare holly]

in terms of coding necro staff is the best weapon in the mod

[dense inlet]

infernum ml is kicking my assss

[celest kestrel]

how are you supposed to kill it in 3:30

[fading dove]

current rdr is fucked up

i can go fuck omega glass with godmode to test

[steep cobalt]

reforge your grand guardian

[cunning flint]

Hello everyone! I came across this video where MustWin no hit all the Wrath of the Gods bosses. I noticed that his game runs noticeably more smoothly than mine.

Does anyone know what he may have done to prevent his game from lagging when fighting the bigger bosses? Currently, my game has large lag spikes during the Avatar of Emptiness's attacks.

Any advice would be appreciated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoHvGScaZYU&t=279s

[oak iris]

careful, hes REALLY hard

bullet hell and such

[steep cobalt]

eh he's managable

[dense inlet]

i think im getting better results on day empress

[celest kestrel]

the difference was minimal

still took 5:30 to get it to 25%

[pine temple]

im killing hf04 (skele prim) first for the minecart
it takes too long to go from one side to hell to another so im using an instatrack and getting the minecart upgrade
fuck the progression brimstone elemental after hf04

[dense ocean]

I think this is Draedon's alt.

[pine temple]

nah i jst like draedon

but legit takes too long to travel hell so

[dense ocean]

Pylons.

[toxic radish]

can someone explain to me

why the hell does

when i get to nameless deitys 2nd phase

he js deletes my summons

and i gotta summon them again

causing me to get hit one time

also

should i be using a melle weapon while using summons

like earth

[dense ocean]

God's nefarious trick.

[night python]

No btw, minions are nerfed if you're not holding a summon weapon

[toxic radish]

by how much

[celest kestrel]

how are you supposed to do this in under 4 minutes 😭

[dense eagle]

the fight is 4 mins

[celest kestrel]

it is taking a lot lomnger than that

[dense eagle]

you cant get under cuz its scripted

[pine pewter]

unless

[dense eagle]

thats loadout issue

[pine pewter]

debuffs

which are getting nuked next Catalyst update

[celest kestrel]

every loudout ive tried has had the same issue

[dense eagle]

show it

[pine pewter]

7 minutes and only 20%?

E Only only took 7 minutes

my current run only took 4 minutes

Legendary mode exoblade line only took 9 minutes

Even a helstorm with chloro bullets only took 8 mins

[celest kestrel]

i no longer recognise the word only

[north estuary]

One question not related to this topic (btw astrageladon is tanky af so yeah It takes a lot): does sometimes playing with addons of a mod parcially remove stuff from other ones,bc I'm having an issue with my nowadays gameplay (mods: overhaul, entropy,wotg,hotog,wotm) that some stuff from overhaul got removed and I don't know if it's from playing with other addons or just that the mod is removing stuff (Stuff missing:machine rebellion Boss,weapons reworks (except ranger) and the King slime rework)

[rose spindle]

you can technically beat the game as soon as you beat calclone in fargo calamity

idk why i dont have full yellow hearts yet

yea i dont do shit to the hearts

[oak iris]

nerfed by 75%

[rose spindle]

im confused, whats giving me 1 free hit that doesnt deal damage to me?

i tanked the leviathan meatball with no damage

oh it was the creepers from the heart

[sullen surge]

Why do so many people say to use catalyst over unofficial calamity whips when catalyst adds barely any

[supple canyon]

Chat im going to lose it
What is the best loadout for infernum DoG summoner 😭 😭 😭 😭

[celest kestrel]

i dislike this slime to a degree that cannot be expressed within the bounds of my vocabulary

[cedar laurel]

Unofficial whips tend to be unbalanced

[celest kestrel]

peak mod though

[supple canyon]

Using this rn

[dense eagle]

balance

[hushed bobcat]

Dude just dodge better

It doesn’t matter what difficulty it is, dog is hella free

[oak iris]

balanced whips

[snow viper]

Guys do you think my equip is enough for infernum profaned guardians? Im a ranger and I have full vortex armor with soaring insignia, statis ninja belt, deadshot brooch, sniper scope, sand shark tooth necklace, deific amulet, the absorber and celestial starboard. My reforges are 4x lucky and 4x menacing and I use the Prideful Hunters Planar Ripper with chlorophyte for phase 1 and then normal bullets. Still i can't make it through phase2 and always die immediately

[pine pewter]

205 attempts

Also what is that loadout 😭

Why are you still using butterfly wings

[dense inlet]

what is the best preml summon weapon

[foggy tartan]

Hi, just wondering what would you all recommend using with Calamity? I'm trying to get back into terraria

[dense inlet]

infernum

[dense eagle]

is it your first time playing calamity?

[foggy tartan]

Not exactly, I used to play years ago but it probably been like 4/5 years since I played Terraria

[dense eagle]

many stuff changed so i would recommend boss checklist lite and recipe browser

magic storage if you hate chests

[jagged socket]

would this suffice? or do i need to dig and make it go lower for more height

[dense eagle]

for what boss?

[jagged socket]

inf DoG

[foggy tartan]

Any you would recommend content wise?

[dense eagle]

i personally didnt used much for my arena

[dense eagle]

catalyst mod

i dont recommend anything else cuz you havent played the game for 4/5 years

many stuff in cal changed

[jagged socket]

i dont think catalyst adds a whole lot tho? isnt it just geldon and his gear, and a few whips and flamethrowers?

[dense eagle]

yes

calamity already adds a shit ton of stuff

[jagged socket]

geldon's gear is op for preML

[foggy tartan]

Is Wrath of Gods worth adding?

[jagged socket]

id say yeah, the actual content is post-scal anyways

[dense eagle]

its kinda buggy with the quests

but you can add it

[hushed bobcat]

4 platform layers of around 200 tiles each would’ve been enough but this works

[hushed bobcat]

Ngl it’s best usage is for the platforms and food

[dense inlet]

Goozma

[jagged socket]

200???? thats way too low according to what ive seen in vids, this is around 2k tiles each

[hushed bobcat]

That’s hunt of the old gods

[dense inlet]

I like Goozma

[foggy tartan]

Hmm..
Right now I got some music things... Fargo Souls, Cal-Fargo's Souls DLC, Wrath of Gods, Catalyst, Fargo Mutants, and Calamity. With Storage/Ore/Boss Checklist/Recipe Browser. Anything you'd recommend add/take off?

[dense eagle]

its all about preference

[hushed bobcat]

You only need 200 on each layer if you know what wasd is

[dense inlet]

wrath of gods will kill you

infernum is easier

[dense eagle]

no

[jagged socket]

the strategy recommended me to constantly keep going up or down for ramming so i need a ton of layers too, im not sure if this is enough

[hushed bobcat]

For which class?

[foggy tartan]

Are both of them like end end or do they affect throught the playthrough

[jagged socket]

infernum isnt recommended for anyone new or playing after a long time

[jagged socket]

any

im summoner

but they recommended that for any

[dense eagle]

wotg have npc with quest system

[hushed bobcat]

Yeah Elysian aegis just dash when you need to but don’t rlly move outside of that

[dense eagle]

infernum reworks all bosses

but it isnt recommended if you havent played the game for such long time

• you are playing with fargo souls

[jagged socket]

inf i wouldnt recommend unless you dont want to play normal calamity once
wotg is fine since its postgame bosses

[dense eagle]

which also reworks bosses

[jagged socket]

oh wait i didnt even notice fargos

[dense inlet]

end game

[jagged socket]

only wotg is endgame

inf isnt

[hushed bobcat]

All of them are post scal and exos

[dense inlet]

anyone know what the best pre moonlord summon weapon is for damage?

[jagged socket]

fuel cell bundle

if not using any other addons like catalyst

[hushed bobcat]

Stardust cell staff or stardust dragon

[jagged socket]

fuel cell is better than stardust cell

and dragon is quite nerfed here

[foggy tartan]

mm thank ya

[dense inlet]

stardust dragon was nufed by calamity

[pine pewter]

Yharon Kindle Staff thank me later

[hushed bobcat]

An iq too high?

[foggy tartan]

Any recommendation between Rogue, Magic, and Summoner?

[pine pewter]

Summoner

[hushed bobcat]

Rogue is a free win

Do sentries only

[pine pewter]

Use Dreadmines and Spikecrag while they're still busted

[jagged socket]

ill try rogue later ive not tried rogue ever

[jagged socket]

spikecrag is worse than dreadmine for me

[hushed bobcat]

Easiest class in the whole game

[dense inlet]

wait what about sandsharknado staff?

[pine pewter]

I mean it's alright

[hushed bobcat]

It exists

[pine pewter]

Fuel Cell Bundle mogs tho

[jagged socket]

ye

[dense inlet]

but sandshark is preml

[jagged socket]

the only "downside" of fuel cell is that it needs to rampup

[dense inlet]

so did the weapon not get a buff?

[pine pewter]

still

[jagged socket]

so is fuel cell

[pine pewter]

Use Fuel Cell

[hushed bobcat]

So far in all of my calamity runs I have forgotten plaguebringer Goliath bc I neglect code breaker

[jagged socket]

but its not much of a downside

[hushed bobcat]

So fuel cell bundle isn’t required unless you are using the community

[dense inlet]

if it doesnt work im trying sandshark

[jagged socket]

sandshark is quite worse

[hushed bobcat]

If it doesn’t work it is a skill issue

[dense inlet]

its infernum

[hushed bobcat]

Yeah and?

[dense inlet]

its always a skill issue

[jagged socket]

fuel cell > stardust cell > some other weapons > sandshark

[foggy tartan]

Random question, I remember when I used to play I used a Bard class

any idea what mod or if that mod is still around

[dense inlet]

Dont diss my goat

[jagged socket]

its an addon

[pine pewter]

Thorium

[dense inlet]

thorium

[jagged socket]

oh right

[foggy tartan]

Does Thorium work with Calamity?

[dense inlet]

cant wait to fight infernum day eol

[pine pewter]

Thorium Helheim makes Thorium fights better but makes some weapons a bit unbalanced

[dense inlet]

yes and theres a compatibility mod to add calamity weapons for bard

[pine pewter]

you need another mod for that

[pine pewter]

for e.g. the Titan Scythe (a pre-plantera weapon) deals up to 13k dps and can kill LC in 6 seconds

[jagged socket]

13k pre-plantera wtf

[pine pewter]

I wish I was joking

[hushed bobcat]

Terraprisma is good but it isn’t worth that

[dense inlet]

I knew I was cooked when i realized the only reason I upped past base mana was for more dreadmine staff uses

[pine pewter]

There's a post-cultist scythe that deals up to 25k dps

[dense inlet]

its cool

[pine pewter]

and the post-primordials weapons deal 50-60k dps lol

[jagged socket]

inf daytime eol is significantly easier then normal daytime eol

for me atleast

cuz inf daytime eol doesnt oneshot

[dense inlet]

yeah its only double damage

[pine pewter]

Thank god IEoR balanced them or else the entire modpack would be a joke

[hushed bobcat]

It would be nice to play it but last time I tried I got into hardmode and then the game never let me into my desert again

[jagged socket]

idk if i should fight inf nighttime providence or not

idk if its worth it

[hushed bobcat]

No

It’s never worth it

[jagged socket]

it wouldve prob been good if i was any class thats not summoner cuz i get the blue accessory thing

but its useless for summoner

purity

purity prob isnt that good most of the time anyways

[pine pewter]

It's meamt to be done post-prov

[dense inlet]

man infernum ml is still rough

[pine pewter]

and purity is only worth on a select few weapons

[dense inlet]

maybe I do deus first

[pine pewter]

3 eyes suck

[jagged socket]

im on dog rn, not much luck with it yet

[pine pewter]

ML took me 64 attempts in E only

[foggy tartan]

Alright, thank you all! I think I just got 7 new mods 🥲

[pine pewter]

thankfully that made me learn the fight

so I beat beat Moon Fraud in 6 attempts on my current run

also Deus sucks

I hate that space worm

[dense inlet]

that fucking worm that I hate

https://tenor.com/view/itsthatbirdihate-gif-7834184604109999536

[pine pewter]

Dragonfolly

I hate those plasma orbs

[granite mulch]

inf dragonfolly is so annoying

[pine pewter]

I love unpredictable projectiles that move in erratic patterns and snipe you for 300 damage

also folly can literally click and drag dash at you for 350 damage with no telegraph

and the most reliable way to counter folly is to just run in one direction

I hate that birb

[granite mulch]

it was literally one of the hardest fights as mage

[pine pewter]

Rouge Slash is really good too

[granite mulch]

tbf i didnt know chrono scythe existed back then which is lowkey goated weapon

[sullen surge]

It's really not that unbalanced

Catalyst adds like 7 whips it's genuine buns in comparison

[sullen surge]

What whip

[fading dove]

blossom's blessing

[sullen surge]

Never used it

There's a damage multiplier scale in the config btw

Tune it to your heart's content

[fading dove]

that shouldnt be needed

and it only goes down to 0.5x

[dense eagle]

if it isnt that unbalanced, then why it exists

[rose spindle]

DOES UNICORN ON A STICK NOT EXIST

[sullen surge]

So you can choose what you want

[sullen surge]

Top #1 useless item

[rose spindle]

playing fargos so it should have a use

i dont know anyone who would willingly use that item

also is sum wrong with my loadout post plaguebringer

[fading dove]

im gonna be real none of these are worth using

[rose spindle]

i dont like recon scope

[fading dove]

also if youre farming for drops use platinum ench and sinister icon

[rose spindle]

feels like a downgrade

[versed sphinx]

Sinister mark

[unique kindle]

imma ask here because i assume i DO have Catalyst
anyone knows why the hell does King Slime just dip after being hit 4 times

[rose spindle]

zerg and battle cry should be enough to replace sinister no?

nvm

it has double drops

[fading dove]

is king slime red

[versed sphinx]

He is Smart, he knows hes gonna lose

[unique kindle]

no

[versed sphinx]

So he dips

[unique kindle]

normal

[fading dove]

ok i got no idea then

[rose spindle]

allat enchants no platinum

[unique kindle]

wdym red??

[versed sphinx]

Evil King Slime

[fading dove]

i asked ebcause i know cal overhaul fucks up king slime and makes it unbeatable sometimes

[unique kindle]

idk im playing a pack from steam

[fading dove]

:(

[versed sphinx]

🙂

[fading dove]

press f8 twice while in a world and screenshot

[jagged socket]

i use unrelenting torment instead

also i finally beat infernum dog

[unique kindle]

coward

[rose spindle]

i might suck cheeks at the game

[unique kindle]

(also anyone knows what mod adds damn cheat menu with login???)

[fading dove]

hero's mod

[unique kindle]

HEROs mod i thi-

yep

[versed sphinx]

Protagonist's addition

Good Guy's changes

[unique kindle]

don't have those

[fading dove]

mmmm

[unique kindle]

will my world/chr get decimated if i get rid of Hero's rn?

[jagged socket]

why th did dog drop over 1k cosmilite bars? why would i need that much? (i msged here cuz idk if its an infernum added drops thing or not)

[fading dove]

best suggestion i have is just disabling half your mods until it goes away and reenabling until its back, repeat until problem mod is isolated

[fading dove]

yeah inf change

[rose spindle]

infernum i think

[fading dove]

not sure why though

[versed sphinx]

Addon where it resprites the Devourer to a bunch of dogs

[unique kindle]

damn
won't that mess up the world tho

[fading dove]

no

[unique kindle]

like, if i were to disable calamity and join the world

[fading dove]

tiles are just unloaded

[unique kindle]

i'm p sure it would turn into a black hole

[fading dove]

no

[unique kindle]

oh?

[fading dove]

unloaded additions to mods are turned into unloaded versions

tiles stay but have zero properties besides universal tile properties

[unique kindle]

wait does that mean that if i were to disable all mods, open world, close it, and reenable mods then it would be fine without any change?

[fading dove]

yeah

[rose spindle]

unicorn on a stick genuinely doesnt exist

[fading dove]

though theres occasionally mods that really dont like being disabled like cal overhaul a few months ago

[sudden mural]

btw is there a reason the exo mechs keep dashing 24/7

[fading dove]

which one

[sudden mural]

both the eyes n the big guy

[fading dove]

ares doesnt dash what

[sudden mural]

he dashes downwards with his slash

[untold palm]

oh wotm

[sudden mural]

n the eyes dash from each their sides

[fading dove]

would you like a tip for eternity exos

[unique kindle]

ykw my pc is not good enough to reliably play around with disabling mods
any1 has a decent pack? or should i make one myself

[versed sphinx]

What happened

[sudden mural]

dont tell me i screwed myself

[sudden mural]

sure

[untold palm]

just keep moving upwards and the opposite side where ares slashes

[fading dove]

kill them all
https://youtu.be/vMVB444Y0Bg

[rose spindle]

eternity exos werent that hard

[untold palm]

or downwards

[rose spindle]

i think base cal was harder

thats just my opinion tho

[fading dove]

basecal exos are free you barely need vertical mobility

[sudden mural]

what is even that

[fading dove]

eternity exos but a bit harder

[sudden mural]

ig

thats pretty much the same fight

just dont get how im supposed to live a thousand bombs n several dashing bosses

[sullen surge]

Are you on just Fargo's or is that eternity revengence

[fading dove]

scroll 2 messages up

[pine pewter]

Draedon be like

"I can't collect any data if you just speedkill my mechs."

[jagged socket]

fearmonger or silva armor for summoner pre-yharon (inf+wotg+catalyst if that changes anything)

fearmonger has way higher defense

and way higher other survivability stuff too

but silva prob has much higher dps

[rose spindle]

eternity revengeance

[jagged socket]

ima go silva the dps is good and the revive is nice

[celest kestrel]

orm

[neat vale]

What are the best addons?

[fading dove]

i wouldnt say theres any best

theyre all trying to do different things

its like comparing apples to

uhhhh

drill bits

[rose spindle]

apples to a particle accelerator

[celest kestrel]

apples to an addon for hit terraria mod "calamity mod"

[rose spindle]

lightwork

first attempt was start of hardmode

[frank mauve]

silva

[minor night]

is this enough stats or should I grind more?

[rose spindle]

is this any good?

[celest kestrel]

this good enough for yharon?

[sullen surge]

It's fun fr

Wof was tough

[fading dove]

yeah pretty good

[minor night]

farm post-dog events get elemental gauntlet asgardian aegis and stuff

[sullen surge]

I beat it in masochist death and it was a pain

[fading dove]

yeah

maso wof is literally free

devihms

[sullen surge]

No it isn't

Not as a summoner

[fading dove]

you skip the hard part with sparkling love

[sullen surge]

What is sparkling love

[fading dove]

did you use nekomi armour

[sullen surge]

No bee armour

[fading dove]

thats why

youre using armour that was twice outdated

[sullen surge]

What is nekomi?

[rose spindle]

i guess bro

[sullen surge]

I switched to bee from obsidian

[fading dove]

https://fargosmods.wiki.gg/wiki/Nekomi_armor

[rose spindle]

all lucky for ranger is best right?

[sullen surge]

I couldn't kill deviant so

[fading dove]

warding

[fading dove]

m1 makes the nado shoot sharks at the cursor

[fading dove]

did you use nymph's perfume

and necro ench

[sullen surge]

No I wasn't aware of these items

I enjoy lots of variety but it means I miss lots

[fading dove]

this is why you look at available options instead of sticking to your comfort vanilla items that suck

[sullen surge]

How am I supposed to know these available options exist

[fading dove]

recipe browser

[rose spindle]

i kno

im abusing this in ooa

damn

atleast the nado is defending the crystal

[fading dove]

do keep in mind that the sharks do have gravity

[fervent flare]

I have a question. I'm a summoner and I just realised, that there are not many whips, or so I think. What mod that adds good whips or good summon progression do you guys recommend?

[fading dove]

using kscope is enough

[rose spindle]

kaleidoscope solos

infernum adds a whip i guess

but kaleidoscope is better

[fading dove]

summoner is not balanced around whips so genuinely whip is stronger than it should be

[fading dove]

perditus is a straight upgrade what

[rose spindle]

fr?

[fading dove]

yeah

[fervent flare]

i'm at kaleidoscope rn

[rose spindle]

anyway ooa abused me

[fading dove]

same damage and speed and tag crit but perditus has 10 flat tag instead of 8 and is longer

[mental rivet]

anything i should change for infernum dog?

[sullen surge]

You got a ram dash?

[fading dove]

elysian aegis over sash

[sullen surge]

Absolutely

[fervent flare]

infernum is an addon? death is like too easy. and i'm progressing too fast

[fading dove]

other than that accessories are good

[spare holly]

Meow meow meow

[fading dove]

yeah

[spare holly]

it is

[fading dove]

required on worldgen though

[mental rivet]

sash?

[spare holly]

^^

[fading dove]

yeah statis' ninja sash

[mental rivet]

oh right mb

[fading dove]

or belt or whatever its called

[mental rivet]

ty

[fading dove]

cant see weapons due to the image not loading but im assuming its either virid vangard or ethereall subjugator

[frank mauve]

ninja belt and void sash

[spare holly]

it's virid

[sullen surge]

Can't decide between summoner and melee, and between infernum or Fargo's soul dlc

[fervent flare]

was that to me or the other guy?

[fading dove]

virid is the single most delicious weapon ever if you coil

[mental rivet]

im using both + king of constellations

[frank mauve]

virid, tenryu and subj

[fading dove]

on the topic of inf

[fervent flare]

i cant turn on infernum mid run?

[frank mauve]

why

💔

[mental rivet]

im finding higher dps

[spare holly]

things will likely break

[sullen surge]

Why would you do it mid run

[frank mauve]

its either u go all in virid or just subj + tenryu

[fading dove]

keep in mind virid is an active weapon

[fervent flare]

cuz i thought death was gonna be harder

[sullen surge]

The information of infernum literally says a mode harder than death

[fervent flare]

well my bad, i though death was gonna be more of a challenge

jeez louis

[sullen surge]

You're really fitting the stereotype of this community

That nobody knows how to read

[mental rivet]

ok ty

[fervent flare]

because i overestimated how difficult death was?

[spare holly]

as basically every community under the sun atp

no one can read

[sullen surge]

Because you didn't read the information on infernum that is accessible to you within 5 seconds of spawning into your world, and is 2 button presses and 1 click away

[fervent flare]

maybe i didn't have infernum to begin with? 🤔 and that's why i'm asking?

[mental rivet]

would omega blue be a better pick than bloodflare for infernum dog

[fervent flare]

talking about not reading

[sullen surge]

Infernum generates world structures

[spare holly]

welcome to mod talk and addon talk. no one is very bright in here

[spare holly]

they didnt have the mod installed

[rose spindle]

id go bloodflare for dmg

[sullen surge]

You're missing the entire point of an infernum run if you enable it midway through

[rose spindle]

dog 2 hits anyway

[fervent flare]

that's why i asked

[sullen surge]

Can't expect things to work properly then

[fading dove]

on everything but stealth rogue yeah

[fervent flare]

like i cant ask without being called stupid?

[spare holly]

yeah that's what we already told them

[fading dove]

actually nvm vega exists

[sullen surge]

You're stupid

[mental rivet]

even for summoner?

[spare holly]

idk what youre on about

[mental rivet]

ok ty

[fading dove]

ok summoner is like a toss between stardust and bloodflare

[rose spindle]

does ravager drop anything noteworthy for fargos

other than infernal blood

[sullen surge]

Scoria bars pre mech

🥰

[rose spindle]

cools

you can get ravager crafting items pre mech?

[fading dove]

yeah

[sullen surge]

You can blow progression out of the water

[fading dove]

kill bohldohrs

[rose spindle]

i can fight scal after fighting calclone i should have expected this 😭

[spare holly]

or steal from the chests

[sullen surge]

[rose spindle]

gonna get every enchant possible before fighting moonlord ig

[fervent flare]

learn to read

[sullen surge]

No you don't get bricks

[sullen surge]

It was half an hour ago move on

[rose spindle]

hard mode luxors gift 🤤

actually ill fight lunatic cultist for the mutants pact

i really need that rn

[jagged socket]

should i do exos or scal first? im summoner, using inf+wotg+catalyst

[little steppe]

try both and do whoever you find easier

though do note that ares, ares specifically, drops ares' exoskeleton

which is p good summon weapon

[rose spindle]

i forgot how much bs lunatic cultist puts you through in fargos

[little steppe]

if you do Scal you get metastasis which afaik isnt as good but still good enough

[fervent flare]

👍

[jagged socket]

is saros possession's laser worth using? doesnt seem like it

[fading dove]

its what makes the weapon worth using

[mental rivet]

how did i never know about this for the virid vanguard 😭

[frigid current]

its a 2.1 thing iirc

saros possession and sirius get something similar

[hushed bobcat]

Wait I can do that?

I knew about saros and Sirius but no virid

[mental rivet]

holy its so busted

[frank mauve]

virid is busted if u coil

[mental rivet]

almost 40k dps when youre close enough damn

[mental rivet]

is it even worth it to use perditus besides for tag atp

[frank mauve]

u can do the ability and switch to perditus mid-ability

[mental rivet]

ooh ty

[frigid current]

the crit chance makes perditus worth using for ages

[jagged socket]

is auric tesla or gem tech better for scal as summoner (inf+wotg+catalyst)

prob auric tesla right

[frank mauve]

but ur gonna have to switch back to virid

[frank mauve]

auric

[frigid current]

auric tesla unless youre doing a mixed playthrough

[little steppe]

if youre going only summoner gemtech kinda ass

[rose spindle]

lunatic cultist is giving me belt in eternity and im too prideful to put it to revengeance difficulty

[frigid current]

gem tech is more fun though

and fearmonger is another option

[little steppe]

gemtech is ass with mono classes

[jagged socket]

should i use cosmic immaterializer or no

[frigid current]

gives more survivability than auric tesla

[frigid current]

ares exoskeleton

[jagged socket]

10 minion slots is a hefty cost

[frigid current]

immaterializer is mid

[jagged socket]

full ares is better than 10 immaterializer + rest ares?

[frigid current]

yes

[frank mauve]

u got ares exoskeleton?

[frigid current]

do 4 tesla cannons

[jagged socket]

yea

[little steppe]

pretty sure he doesnt have fargo drops if he isnt in eternity

[frank mauve]

yeah go for ares and lilies

[frigid current]

gauss is ok

laser and fire suck

[frank mauve]

last slot put saros

[jagged socket]

why?

[frank mauve]

i found 3 teslas 1 plasma to be the fastest for my speedkill ngl

[frigid current]

beam

[jagged socket]

the beam is trash

whip is better

[frank mauve]

nah not really for the beam

[jagged socket]

cuz of catalyst

[frank mauve]

its damage at 1 slot is good

[frigid current]

ive tested most of the combinations myself, unless infernum buffs plasma, 4 teslas is best

[jagged socket]

i used midnight sun beacon, mirror of kalandra, lilies for exos

should i throw the first two away?

[frank mauve]

ive tried 4 tesla against 3 tesla 1 plasma many times and 3 teslas always won

[frank mauve]

how many slots do u have

[pine pewter]

Midnight Beacon Staff more like Mid Beacon Staff

[frigid current]

its not mid

its actually a fairly good slot filler

saros is better though

[pine pewter]

oh it was buffed

[frank mauve]

sirius 🤤

[pine pewter]

Are we Sirius right now

[frank mauve]

the stratus weapons are too peak tbh

[spare holly]

ongod

[frigid current]

y so sirius

[spare holly]

i love them so much after the reworks

[hushed bobcat]

Pole warper best summon weapon trust

[rose spindle]

sigh

[frank mauve]

theyre also really viable for yharon lmao

[pine pewter]

I should do a Infernum Spiky Balls only run

[hushed bobcat]

Infernum but I can only use things npcs give me (except wood)

[pine pewter]

I'll do brick only first

[frank mauve]

i did that pre 2.1 and it was fun

good luck doing that now though

[pine pewter]

wdym

oh

Sky Stabber

rip

[frigid current]

dreadmine staff only

[pine pewter]

free

[hushed bobcat]

Infernum cactus armor only

[spare holly]

bouncy spiky balls are viable till plaguebringer

[frank mauve]

not hard

[frigid current]

no armour/shit armour is harder than a nohit

[minor night]

is it possible to replace a modded biome from a world? I downloaded cal community remix and had to disable it, my jungle is completely unrendered now

[frigid current]

❌

[pine pewter]

Incorrect

[minor night]

so only solution is a city buster?

[frigid current]

youre gonna be way above the mnl though

[frank mauve]

youre underestimating how strong accessories can be

[celest kestrel]

Can lunar pickaxes mine auric ore?

[pine pewter]

real

[frigid current]

past dog maybe

[pine pewter]

no

[celest kestrel]

fuck

[hushed bobcat]

I have the slightest feeling you use the Silksong hp and mana texture pack

[frigid current]

plantera and pbg would be hell

[pine pewter]

not even post-DoG

[spare holly]

you need the uelibloom pick

[frigid current]

no absorber

[hushed bobcat]

I just can’t put my finger on it

[celest kestrel]

i havent beaten providence

[pine pewter]

Armourless is kinda chill tbh

[minor night]

then go beat her and start mining uelibloom, no other way you can get auric armor

[celest kestrel]

is metanova good enough for endgame?

[spare holly]

beat yharon shimmer soul fragments into auric ore

[frigid current]

why is that your best option

🙏

[pine pewter]

real

[pine pewter]

yes

[minor night]

thats for betas

providence is a fun boss anyway

[frigid current]

providence is one of the like 3 bosses i enjoy over death

[celest kestrel]

i often skip her because i dont like profaned guardians

[hushed bobcat]

Gotta shimmer auric ore into uelibloom to get tarragon armor like a real player

[pine pewter]

Divine Geodes:

[hushed bobcat]

Who needs those anyways

[pine pewter]

ur mom

[minor night]

then get wrath of the beams mod and kill profaned guardians in 5 secs

[frigid current]

ur mim

[hushed bobcat]

Mim🥀

[pine pewter]

mimir

[spare holly]

typing issue

[frigid current]

insert that chess blunder symbol

!?

[spare holly]

⁉️

[pine pewter]

that's inaccuracy

[minor night]

wasnt it the other way around

like ?!

[celest kestrel]

[frigid current]

oh that

[minor night]

ya

[snow cairn]

do most of the calamity addons work with infernum?

[spare holly]

^^ stuck on 100 elo

[snow cairn]

or should i play normal calamity if i want to have many of the addons

[frigid current]

which ones are you looking at

[celest kestrel]

i had 100 elo for several eyars

[snow cairn]

like catalyst, goozma, entropy, wotm and wotg,

[frigid current]

catalyst and wotg are fully compatible, wotm is semi compatible

dont know about the others

[pine pewter]

I have 796

but I'm still ass

[frigid current]

wrath of the machines overrides infernums exo mechs

[minor night]

get fargos mod instead of wotm so you can actually enable/disable fargos override

wotm is a fraction of fargos

[snow cairn]

true but it dont break them right

[frigid current]

its a much more fun experience yes but you should play through infernums original content so you can form a real opinion of it

[minor night]

ya

it just overrides the thing

[frigid current]

it might cause issues with the solyn quest

[minor night]

if u wanna fight infernum exo mechs, disable wotm

[frigid current]

or boss rush

[snow cairn]

ive played inf like 3 times through now

[minor night]

boss rush is disabled altogether in wotg

[frigid current]

oh do wotm then

[snow cairn]

i do not mind to lose the exo mech fight

[spare holly]

infernum is much fun

[frigid current]

you vs the person your mom told you not to worry about

[shut sedge]

Does infernum interact well with the calamity texture pack?

[spare holly]

exos is a fun fight until you have to fight ares

[spare holly]

Yes

[snow cairn]

exos is fun until u fight them

[shut sedge]

Oh and does infernum music interact well with calamity vanilla music?

[frigid current]

exos are pretty easy in wotm if you start with thanatos

[frigid current]

yes

[shut sedge]

Ty guys

[pine pewter]

imo Artemis is the most annoying mech (Infernum)

[minor night]

was that the green or orange one

[pine pewter]

Orange

[spare holly]

least annoying mech

[minor night]

yea its the most annoying

almost oneshotting laser

[frigid current]

they will cycle through the same 2 attack patterns when all 3 are present

[snow cairn]

fargos overrides like a whole lot more than wotm no?

[celest kestrel]

this equipment good for calamitas?

[pine pewter]

Artemis has a knack for gliding into me and dealing 472 damage with some random laser

[frigid current]

original scal?

[minor night]

fargos is the extension of wotm but you can actually disable/enable fargos AI

[frigid current]

also fuck no

half of these accessories have strict upgrades available

why hide

[pine pewter]

what are those accs

😭

[frigid current]

you have ascendant spirit essence and cosmilite

[spare holly]

"vanilla scal"

[frigid current]

you can get asgardian aegis

[minor night]

farm ascendant spirit and get post-dog stuff

[snow cairn]

need more defencive accessories icl

[minor night]

like elemental gauntlet

[frigid current]

happy?

[celest kestrel]

alrigth

[minor night]

also remove affliction its not that good for scal

[spare holly]

mhm

^w^

[snow cairn]

alr ill do dat

[frigid current]

have you beaten exos

[snow cairn]

does fargos add any world gen i should worry abt?

[spare holly]

stat sticks are generally not great

[pine pewter]

your inventory also speaks volumes

1. Get a blossom pickaxe

[celest kestrel]

no

[frigid current]

you can also get auric tesla armour+

[pine pewter]

2. Get a Cosmolight

[pine pewter]

they're using auric

[frigid current]

oh right

looks like metanova when you squint your eyes underwater

[pine pewter]

also what are those weapons

[frigid current]

wait

no thats not auric

im getting gaslighted

[pine pewter]

The Obliterator, Maw of Infinity, Stream Gouge

[celest kestrel]

they are what dropped from dog

[pine pewter]

wait

that's base intergelactic

[frigid current]

😭

[snow cairn]

get the yharon spinner✅

[frigid current]

sky dragons fury

[celest kestrel]

huh

[frigid current]

sucks for scal

[pine pewter]

I somewhat expect people to use auric post-yharon

[frigid current]

thanatos is all its good for

[frigid current]

you can literally get a metanova version of auric tesla

[spare holly]

moab is viable for scal and exos

[snow cairn]

has good dmg no?

[celest kestrel]

damn

[pine pewter]

Have you not noticed to material label on Intergelactic armour?

[frigid current]

good damage if its hitting 50 segments

maybe for the hearts

[celest kestrel]

i hadnt

[frigid current]

nothing else

[pine pewter]

bruh

[snow cairn]

get the spine of thatanos first

[pine pewter]

why do you have 59 bloody tears

[celest kestrel]

blood moon

[spare holly]

or exoblade

[frigid current]

theyre pre exos

[snow cairn]

kill exos

[spare holly]

beat exos

[snow cairn]

🙏

[pine pewter]

just upgrade accs, armour, and weapons

[frigid current]

what if they want to fight scal first

[pine pewter]

Ataraxia + Dragon Rage

[spare holly]

what are they? a mage?

[snow cairn]

then dont fight exos ig

[frigid current]

so basically upgrade everything

[pine pewter]

M*lee

[pine pewter]

yes

[spare holly]

thats not nearly as bad

[snow cairn]

*the goat

[pine pewter]

that's true melee

[spare holly]

that doesn't say ranger

[snow cairn]

[pine pewter]

Melee summons magical projectiles

[snow cairn]

still goated

[pine pewter]

in your dreams

[frigid current]

summoner is very fun outside of pre boss and endgame

[snow cairn]

good dmg but idk fun imo

[pine pewter]

Dragon Rage and Cosmic Discharge sweeps Ark and Exoblade

[frigid current]

i dont like how everything has a summon cap in endgame

[spare holly]

and outside of when you have to use top tier ai summons such as necrostecytes

[frigid current]

ive literally never used necros

[toxic radish]

Exo blade???

[jagged socket]

summoner is always the most fun class for me

[frigid current]

well i tried it on slime fod

god

[pine pewter]

Mid blade

[snow cairn]

well ofc true melee weapons are better im talking abt the enjoyement both are rly fun

[spare holly]

slime foid

[frank mauve]

trash blade

[spare holly]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[frigid current]

only for it to bug out and presumably do nothing the whole fight

[snow cairn]

exo blade is so ass

[toxic radish]

Its goated wdym

[toxic radish]

😢

[frigid current]

it gets B on scal

[pine pewter]

wdym it's goated

[frigid current]

which is still very good

[toxic radish]

dude

[frigid current]

but its outclassed by spine somehow

[toxic radish]

WHAT weapon is better than cosmic

[snow cairn]

feels like hitting with a stick

[toxic radish]

I mean exo blade

On scal

[spare holly]

Sunfury viable on scal

[pine pewter]

Basically everything

[frank mauve]

lets not use basecal tiers for inf

[toxic radish]

Name

[spare holly]

lets make an infernum tier list

[snow cairn]

spine

[frigid current]

when was this about infernum again

[pine pewter]

Ataraxia, Cosmic Discharge, Spine + Purity

[toxic radish]

So uh

Whats that

[frank mauve]

we should

[spare holly]

SS. all the weapons i like

F. mage

[pine pewter]

really just Spine + Purity and win

[snow cairn]

spine of thatanos

[frank mauve]

✅

[toxic radish]

Exo blade way better than those , i havent used spine

[frank mauve]

keep exoblade only for seppy and birds

[frank mauve]

wow slow down

[pine pewter]

ya

[snow cairn]

[toxic radish]

i love exo blade

Tho

[frank mauve]

bro really saying exoblade better than ataraxia

[pine pewter]

Hold your horses

[frigid current]

its more fun

[spare holly]

exoblade is not better than ataraxia or discharge in a million years

[toxic radish]

DUDE LAST TIME when i was asking for inf recommendations u guys said exo blade

[spare holly]

counterpoint

ataraxia is really cool

[pine pewter]

who said that

[frigid current]

counterpoint

[toxic radish]

Lizard

And uh

I think ih

[pine pewter]

wait a minute

[toxic radish]

Shit

[frank mauve]

the prikki

[frigid current]

i dont use ataraxia because it doesnt have exploding piercing homing projectiles from holding left click

[pine pewter]

Isn't lihzahrd the true melee guy?

[toxic radish]

I belive lizard man

[smoky dock]

yeah

[pine pewter]

He's a fraud

[frank mauve]

✅

[pine pewter]

that bastard

[frank mauve]

no way

[spare holly]

hello stalker person!

[smoky dock]

exoblade has the advantage of being really lame and boring

[toxic radish]

Dude got summoned

[pine pewter]

you're supposed to spread true melee

[frank mauve]

it has goated tmelee attacks

[smoky dock]

it's a click weapon. not even point and click, just click. and it works

It won't be FAST

But it's EASY and SIMPLE

[jagged socket]

can I not use more than the 4 slots for ares exoskeleton?

[smoky dock]

And that gives a weapon merit in and of itself

[frigid current]

exoblade is one of my favourite weapons to use

[toxic radish]

I can focus on dodging with gem tech

[frank mauve]

no

[toxic radish]

If i use exo blade

[smoky dock]

Yeah well what are your other three weapons

[spare holly]

gem tech

[pine pewter]

Gem Tech > Auric for most classes

[spare holly]

wild

[frank mauve]

spine of thanatos solo

[smoky dock]

What the fuck are you on about

[frank mauve]

basically better exoblade

[spare holly]

theyre lowkey right

[smoky dock]

Gem Tech monoclass is just nohitter bait

[spare holly]

if youre playing most classes gem tech wins

[frigid current]

they operate completely differently

[pine pewter]

I'm on based pills

[toxic radish]

gem tech is post exo mechs ofc its gonna be better

[smoky dock]

Auric is like, DESIGNED for the last few fights

[spare holly]

if youre not playing most classes it doesnt

[smoky dock]

Gem Tech is something where you don't "use a class"

[frank mauve]

yeah but still performs better regardless

[smoky dock]

Use all five at once or not at all

[frank mauve]

and thats ALL we care about

[pine pewter]

Gem Tech is designed for those who can dodge

[smoky dock]

I'm killing you all

[frank mauve]

dodge

[pine pewter]

or just do weaponless nuke build

[frigid current]

wouldnt just summoner and 1 maybe 2 other classes already give more dps

[toxic radish]

if i use uh a mele weapon with summoner whats the percentage of summon damage

[spare holly]

if i wanted that I'd use that plague bee armor

[toxic radish]

thats uh removed

[smoky dock]

more DPS yeah, but would it be a better set?

[pine pewter]

25%

[frigid current]

because it removes the summon penalty for the whole fight assuming youre not actively holding a summon weapon

[spare holly]

1000%

[smoky dock]

Stronger =/= better

[frigid current]

if it doesnt make more numbers appear on my screen i dont wanna hear it

[toxic radish]

so whats the disanvatage in using a melle all the time

[frank mauve]

75% dmg

[smoky dock]

Auric Tesla's impressive regen means that you can afford to make mistakes

[toxic radish]

uh

who shall i trust

[frigid current]

gem tech regen crystal 🔥

[pine pewter]

ur mim obviously

[spare holly]

it's 75% because it takes away 25%

[smoky dock]

they're both correct

[frigid current]

wait thats not a thing

it just gives regen with all gems active

[spare holly]

indeed

[smoky dock]

summon damage penalty is 0.75x damage (you lose 25% of the original damage value)

[frank mauve]

the pink crystal or

[toxic radish]

oh THEN im better off using summoner with melle

[smoky dock]

it gives flat regen

which is nice

[jagged socket]

is there no better hover wings than celestial starboard?

[pine pewter]

I shall now make ur mim a inside joke

[smoky dock]

but nothing beats auric tesla's natural regen

[smoky dock]

Correct

[jagged socket]

aw

[frigid current]

divine wings in wotg

[toxic radish]

fearmonger?

[frigid current]

other than that no

[snow cairn]

are goozma, entropy and catalyst put in the right tier on the bosschecklist mod?

[smoky dock]

ok true

[jagged socket]

is it from the bosses there?

[smoky dock]

fearmonger beats auric tesla's regen

[frigid current]

yes

nameless deity

[toxic radish]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[spare holly]

Probably

[frigid current]

still dont know why the wiki stops recommending it

[spare holly]

i havent played entropy but the other two are

[frigid current]

too much water or something idk

[smoky dock]

Poor damage output

[spare holly]

class setups isn't trustworthy

[snow cairn]

alr thanks entropy looked so cool had to add it

[smoky dock]

And also a significant portion of people don't use minions

[toxic radish]

im stuck on nameless deity somehow

[frigid current]

it also recommends gem tech in endgame iirc

or at least it used to

[spare holly]

💔?

[snow cairn]

is there any true melee progression guides out there perchance?

[spare holly]

minionless summon is wild

[smoky dock]

use demonshade then

[smoky dock]

no

[toxic radish]

dude

wow

[snow cairn]

[frigid current]

mage

[smoky dock]

none that're trustworthy then

[toxic radish]

OFC IM USING demonshade

[spare holly]

who uses mage

[smoky dock]

ok good :)

[toxic radish]

wth can u use except it

[spare holly]

💔

[frigid current]

like 6 people

[frank mauve]

so ur not trustworthy 💔?

[smoky dock]

Fearmonger is a mage set

[smoky dock]

i am trustworthy

[frigid current]

some people use stratus sphere or something

[toxic radish]

im using summon weapons with ingovirating accesories , and exo blade/earth

[smoky dock]

i'm just not writing a true melee progression guide

[smoky dock]

thumbsup~2

[spare holly]

it is?

[smoky dock]

should be fine then

[frank mauve]

✅

[toxic radish]

im dying a shit ton at the galaxy throw attack

[spare holly]

oh i didnt know that i dont play mage

[frigid current]

mage and summon

[smoky dock]

no i'm bullying the people that see mana cost reduction and assume mage set

[frank mauve]

it has damage, crit and mage stats