calamity-addon-talk

[craggy yacht]

And i don’t know how to get rid of it

[steady sundial]

why?

idk

what even is it

[craggy yacht]

Idk a lotus thing that makes me invincible

[steady sundial]

god knowsa

dyk if its a qol thing

[craggy yacht]

No def not

[steady sundial]

u should just play infernum

ngl

[craggy yacht]

I might need to make a new character

[steady sundial]

its so worth it

[craggy yacht]

I have the buff and idk how to

[craggy yacht]

Yea I think it’s time for a new run

Also it’s really annoying

U know the good apples

[steady sundial]

yeah

from wotg

[craggy yacht]

Yea

So I may or may not have macroes them over night and have like a couple thousand health

So I can’t heal or die

[steady sundial]

why 😭

[craggy yacht]

I wanted to tank a hit from mommy of light

In day time

[steady sundial]

whats the hardest difficulty youve done on calamity?

[craggy yacht]

Master

[steady sundial]

idk if you should do infernum then ngl but its just learning

[craggy yacht]

Why

[steady sundial]

ion think you should do death mode just do infernum instead

or master revengence

[craggy yacht]

Infurnum it is

Are there any new bosses

[steady sundial]

i mean infernum isnt too hard though but you might get stuck

naw

[dense eagle]

there is no master rev

[steady sundial]

every boss is completely reworked though

[dense eagle]

there is only master death

[dense eagle]

1 new

[steady sundial]

i played it like 1 year ago

[craggy yacht]

Finally

[steady sundial]

unless they removed it

[dense eagle]

and every other reworked

[dense eagle]

1 month ago there was big update

[craggy yacht]

Does it make golem less bum

[steady sundial]

oh right

[dense eagle]

hes good

[steady sundial]

hes really fun to learn

[dense eagle]

he doesnt do random bullshit go

[steady sundial]

i was in the fight for 8 mins tho

[craggy yacht]

What about plantera can I still just go in circles

[dense eagle]

how

[steady sundial]

thought that was bad until avaitar of emptiness

[dense eagle]

she also dashes at you

[steady sundial]

15 mins of nothing

[dense eagle]

15 mins??

[steady sundial]

yeah

[dense eagle]

thats definitelly loadout issue

[steady sundial]

yeah i still beat him though

[dense eagle]

they dont take that much

[steady sundial]

nameless diety took 17 mins

[dense eagle]

you were using wooden bow?

[steady sundial]

i dont even know my loadout was fine

i was just doing no damage

[craggy yacht]

What class

[dense eagle]

loadout was fine and doing no dmg dont connect

[steady sundial]

i just couldnt be asked to get post scal shit because i had to beat goozma like 4 times

[dense eagle]

just uninstall goozma

[steady sundial]

naw the fight is fire

[craggy yacht]

What class and I’m not doing rouge or summoner

[steady sundial]

idk i thought infernum reworked bosses for endurance ngl i didnt think it'd be my loadout

[dense eagle]

i also go for defense

[steady sundial]

melee was great but some bosses are pretty bad for melee

[dense eagle]

wdym

[steady sundial]

imo but melee is insane

[steady sundial]

i found some bosses really annoying compared to other classes

[craggy yacht]

Wait how is mage early

[dense eagle]

his books got reworked

[craggy yacht]

I swear if it’s just gem stars

[craggy yacht]

BRU

[dense eagle]

jungle armor

[dense eagle]

they are now better

[dense eagle]

or gemrobe and wizard hat

[craggy yacht]

I low-key Ming hit switch to mage around hard more

Mode

[steady sundial]

would u say scal is harder then exo mechs on infernum?

[dense eagle]

Scal was more fun for me

[steady sundial]

i beat both melee but i took like 40 hits from scal

[dense eagle]

idk who is harder for me

[steady sundial]

somehow didnt die

[dense eagle]

why?

[craggy yacht]

I hate early mage tho love late mage

[steady sundial]

can always switch

really long though

[dense eagle]

ye but not really understand whats wrong with mage prehm

there are still good options

expecially when they reworked many weapons

[craggy yacht]

Wdym all I need to do is next armour upgrade I just make mage and get new accessories

[steady sundial]

yea but it depends at what point tho

prehm is fine

but im just lazy

[craggy yacht]

Idk I’ll figure it out when I get to it

[steady sundial]

id recommend looking at class guides if you play infernum

nd looking at nohits if you get stuck ona boss

helped a ton

[blazing talon]

Summoner kinda broken

It melted the infernum exo mechs

2 min fight

[toxic radish]

ATTEMPTS 10 on phase 2 , idk why it dosent track the phase one attempts ,. ive got 90 attempts on phase 1

I HATE the rings of fire

they do a absurd amount of damage

[quick rose]

would lucky or menacing be better for pre boss cultist

or should i get something with armor pen

[toxic radish]

I BEAT FUCKING YHARONNN

100 ATTEMPTS

EASIER THAN DOG

[toxic radish]

okay

yharon gave me 2.2k chicken nuggets

thank u yharon

oh

its ammo for the chicken gun

should i fight

exo mechs

or calamitas

[dusty cobalt]

mech

[toxic radish]

uh

hm

okay

is the zenith viable

cuz i wana get that

or the ark of the cosmos

[quick rose]

its mid

[toxic radish]

so the zenith

im trying to get that

anyway

[pine pewter]

You want equal amounts of lucky and menacing

[pine pewter]

Forget all that Zenith and AoTC garbage

use Ataraxia and Dragon Rage

[quick rose]

idk if theres anything i can improve

im using flamarang and sun spirit staff

[nimble wing]

?????

it's ranked SS

[granite mulch]

since when is aotc ss

[nimble wing]

since now

[granite mulch]

🔥

[pine pewter]

not much tbh apart from terrasparks

[nimble wing]

wait sorry it's A

[pine pewter]

lol

[quick rose]

in what world

[quick rose]

B at best

[nimble wing]

i was looking at the rank given it by a tester who is notorious for variance

but it is A

[granite mulch]

dragon rage being c is truly a range moment

[pine pewter]

A for Ark

[quick rose]

useless

[granite mulch]

terramid

[pine pewter]

Do basecal Exos love staying far away?

[granite mulch]

idk

[quick rose]

yeah you can almost never hit them

[granite mulch]

twins prob do

[quick rose]

yea

[nimble wing]

ares and hunters are literally gorilla glued to the edge of your monitor.

[granite mulch]

ares and thanatos are hittable (thanatos is like 10 seconds for dragon rage)

[pine pewter]

pain

[nimble wing]

but ares less so since 2.1

its accel was nerfed so you can catch it by flying harder

[pine pewter]

Infernum Cryogen with true melee without debuffs

[granite mulch]

id just use comet quasher

doesnt sound that bad

[pine pewter]

yea

It's not really a 15 minute fight if you know what you're doing

[nimble wing]

i nohit it pre-2.1 with brimlance

it was quite horrible

[pine pewter]

I revoke my previous statement

[narrow coral]

ice cube is still my favorite true melee fight

[pine pewter]

clodsire

[quick rose]

bro

[pine pewter]

I think that fight takes a long time

just a hunch

[quick rose]

so hard trying not to cave in and just fight wall

[pine pewter]

Ancient light and p1 fireballs suck

[quick rose]

beating cultist like this still means i have to beat ml with almost the same gear

[quick rose]

truth the fireballs are so random

[frank mauve]

yeah but u can abuse certain items to hit them easily

[runic moss]

At least you'll have a weapon that does damage

[pine pewter]

and they drain half of your health

[quick rose]

my best run was 75% i think

that was like 4 minutes

[toxic radish]

also , exo mechs which 2 should i i fight first

and by dragon rage

u mean dragon pow

[frank mauve]

whats your gear and weapon

[toxic radish]

are the exo mechs harder than yharon

?

[quick rose]

and all the potions avaible

[pine pewter]

no

Wait is this Infernum?

[toxic radish]

yes

infernum

[pine pewter]

okay then yes dragon rage

[toxic radish]

what

is that a yharon weapon

[pine pewter]

yes

[toxic radish]

oh

true melle

bro

HOW AM I GONNA GET THIS

[pine pewter]

and?

[frank mauve]

go get dungeon weapons

[toxic radish]

I BARELY BEAT yhharon the first time

and theres no guarentee im gonna even get it

[pine pewter]

You have auric tesla stuff

[toxic radish]

oh yea

forgot

[pine pewter]

It's like farming DoG with post-DoG gear

[quick rose]

i didnt want to resort to this but at this point sure xd

[frank mauve]

if you want melee weapons for exos id recommend like

ares - devil devastation
thanatos - dragon rage
twins - ordrerbringer/ataraxia/dragon rage

[quick rose]

but is there even anything better than flamarang

[toxic radish]

im still getting two shotted

[quick rose]

only thing that could help would be bewitching table

[pine pewter]

Magic missile idk

[toxic radish]

and i forgot i need to get the post yharon accesories

[frank mauve]

i used flamelash ngl

[pine pewter]

bruh how

[toxic radish]

i js got the radiance only

[frank mauve]

show loadout

[toxic radish]

and

yharims gift

[frank mauve]

yharim mid

[pine pewter]

EWWWW

Gift mid

[quick rose]

bro i havent gotten two shot with a glass canon build

[toxic radish]

wait

[pine pewter]

absorber post-yharon

[toxic radish]

the new

[toxic radish]

yes

[pine pewter]

bruh

[toxic radish]

i need to get the dragon fruit also

more health

[pine pewter]

🤓 Sacred Strawberry

[toxic radish]

yes

[quick rose]

dark sun ring ig

or sponge actually

[toxic radish]

yharons strawberry

[toxic radish]

okay

[pine pewter]

absorber with chalice

Yharim's Gift with reaper necklace

[quick rose]

wings of rebirth

[toxic radish]

reaper neclakcle

i dont wana farm reaper sharks no more tho

[pine pewter]

imo I'd replace amalgam with void sash but it doesn't matter that much

[toxic radish]

okay

[pine pewter]

Badge of Bravery or Dark Sun Ring then

[toxic radish]

so

should i use the statis void sash

[pine pewter]

or nebulous core for the revive

[toxic radish]

because the asgardian

ageis

is overiding

its

dash

and the sash dash i think its better

[pine pewter]

it gives a dodge, jump speed, and accel

[toxic radish]

anmd dodge

and a dash

i think

[pine pewter]

it can't ramdash

[toxic radish]

oh

o]

good to know

also

exo mechs

or calamitss

first

[pine pewter]

exos

[toxic radish]

and are they harder than yharon

probably are though

[fast nacelle]

Yes

[pine pewter]

obviously

[toxic radish]

its always harder ...

😢

[fast nacelle]

Esp scal

Exos is arguable

[toxic radish]

ah

[pine pewter]

Two hardest bosses imo

I suck at Exos more than Scal

[toxic radish]

how am i supposed to use a true melle weapon , againts the exo mechs

[fast nacelle]

Clearly eater of worlds is second hardest

[toxic radish]

that just sounds horrible

[fast nacelle]

Exos is hardest

[pine pewter]

it isn't

[fast nacelle]

But in actuality scal is hardest

[toxic radish]

ill maybe trust u

[frank mauve]

do twins ares

[pine pewter]

Infernum Exos don't act like you have black death

[toxic radish]

okay

they one shot you

[frank mauve]

if u dont want to use dragon rage the whole fight then i sent what weapons to use earlier

[toxic radish]

infernum exos

bassicly one shot you

[pine pewter]

they actually give you windows to hit them

[fast nacelle]

Which class are you

[toxic radish]

why do they have so much

projectlies

[pine pewter]

wtf

[toxic radish]

melle

[fast nacelle]

Blue puffer from battle cats

[toxic radish]

i mean they have so many projectiles

[pine pewter]

I'm glass cannon and only take 340 from non blenderbeam/big boom/headshot/sun attacks

[toxic radish]

yes puffleys

[frank mauve]

yeah sure they one shot you

[toxic radish]

then i am mistaken

[fast nacelle]

Do Thanatos+ares and melt Thanatos with dragon rage

Use zenith for ares

[toxic radish]

only 14k dps

[frank mauve]

no

devil devastation better for ares

[toxic radish]

okay

so dragon rage

good

[fast nacelle]

Oh yeah forgot it’s very very good

[toxic radish]

what about

[frank mauve]

so you ignored the vid and just looked at the dps

[toxic radish]

yes

[frank mauve]

dps isnt even that accurate

[toxic radish]

what about the

ark of the scosmos

cosmos

[fast nacelle]

Mid

[pine pewter]

meh

[toxic radish]

it has 45k dps tho

[fast nacelle]

Still mid if you use the parry

[toxic radish]

well dps isnt all

that matters

[fast nacelle]

Not accurate

[frank mauve]

i already sent you what weapons to use

[toxic radish]

why wont u use the parry

[toxic radish]

yes

[fast nacelle]

Cuz you have to get in close

So it’s inconsistent

[toxic radish]

oh

alright

[fast nacelle]

And it doesn’t even do tmelee damage

[frank mauve]

ares - devil devastation
thanatos - dragon rage
twins - orderbringer/ataraxia/dragon rage

everything else is wrong

[fast nacelle]

Dragon rage is better if close range

[toxic radish]

so no zenith

got it

i got it for no use

[pine pewter]

How good is new Devil's Devastation?

[frank mauve]

mega good

[toxic radish]

2 and a half minutes to beat yharon i did

with 90 attempts

[pine pewter]

were you seriously using zenith in calamity

[toxic radish]

100 acctualy wait

[toxic radish]

yes

it was post yharon

[pine pewter]

bruh

[toxic radish]

so.

[frank mauve]

zenith is still good

just overshadowed by other options

[pine pewter]

that

It's not bad, but there's just other stuff that's better

[toxic radish]

yo orderbringer

is insane now

used to only fire a beam i think

[fast nacelle]

Orderbringer was like better before???

Maybe

It was a different stage

So kinda hard to

Estimate

Was best option for yharon tho

[jagged kayak]

anyone knows how much i have to infect my desert with astral infection to get hadarians spawned?

[pine pewter]

Astral solution

buy it from the Steampunker

[jagged kayak]

ye ik

[toxic radish]

orderbringer is doing really slow damage againts yharon

how is a pre yharon weapon

wrose

[jagged kayak]

but how much do i have to infect the desert with ?

[toxic radish]

bruh

[pine pewter]

Half of it

[jagged kayak]

i got like this much infected

[fast nacelle]

Which version

[pine pewter]

that's good enough

[jagged kayak]

does it show smh when its half

[pine pewter]

just crank up the spawn rates

and you should get some hadarians

[jagged kayak]

i alr used zerg and water candle no spawns

[pine pewter]

are you sure it's astral sand

ok it is

then idk

[jagged kayak]

blighted anstal sand ye

astral

[pine pewter]

I used battle cry + zerg + water candle + 30x spawns so idk lol

[toxic radish]

wanted to cheese it

but oh well

[jagged kayak]

or is it bcs its blighted

[pine pewter]

oh yea you can also get battle potion and chaos candle

[pine pewter]

maybe

[toxic radish]

112 platinum is way to much

[jagged kayak]

does it show a theme when its half infected or something ?

[frank mauve]

orderbringer is S tier

[toxic radish]

oh

[jagged kayak]

bcs my desert doesnt have a theme atm

[pine pewter]

it isn't

[toxic radish]

dude yharon drops only 3 platinum

[pine pewter]

because in Infernum you get infinite money after DoG

[toxic radish]

how

oh yea

YEA

[pine pewter]

1000 cosmolite bars

lol

[toxic radish]

zerg and the event

[toxic radish]

thats only 12 platinum

[frank mauve]

doesnt sell for much

[toxic radish]

zerg potion and the pumpkin moon

gave me 13 platinum

in

5 minutes

or 10

i dont remember

[frank mauve]

do blood moons

🤑

[toxic radish]

why would that

[pine pewter]

20 plat per 1000 bars

[toxic radish]

that isnt nearly

[toxic radish]

wow

thats

alot of DOGs that need to die

and i could just bheat yharon again in that time

[fading dove]

prices are meaningless, the problem is that it gives buffs for effects that are balanced around not having potions

it has a potion for hallowed armour set bonus

[pine pewter]

Alchnpc potions are not balanced

You can get the effects of cross necklace, perma sunflower, perma dryad's blessing, normality relocator, cobalt shield etc

all in a potion

[toxic radish]

DOG GOT OBLITIRATED

by orderbringer

[pine pewter]

lol

[frank mauve]

money

[toxic radish]

moolah

[pine pewter]

Money

[frank mauve]

omg scamer

modzzz

[pine pewter]

My cover has been blown

[toxic radish]

only 16 plat for one DOG

[pine pewter]

Oh noes!

[toxic radish]

horrible

[full marsh]

those who lowk got 9999 plat from crabulon in gfb 🤣 🤣 🤣 ☠️ ☠️ ☠️

[toxic radish]

Okay

[gloomy mist]

those who get ~450 platinum from the perforators in gfb 🤑

[fading dove]

those who 186 platinum per night post polterghast

[frank mauve]

those who get 9999 platinums with mods

[humble marlin]

those who dont play the game

[smoky dock]

the people who know how to get money to afford alchnpc potions easily also know how to get the potions easily

[dapper lintel]

i don't

[idle geyser]

im playing Wotg and i just killed skeletron, solyn spawned but my game crashed, shes disappeared and i dont have her flag anymore. killing skeletron doesnt seem to spawn here again either - any fix for this?

[toxic radish]

how

[smoky dock]

generic blood moon farm with post-polterghast equipment

[fading dove]

blood moon, dark spark, spawn rate boosters

[toxic radish]

spawn rate zerg

dark spark

idk whats that

[fading dove]

its a rather poor setup and requires selling everything manually

there's absolutely better but this one's easy

[smoky dock]

dark spark is a post-Polterghast magic weapon and upgrade to uhhhhh

Last Prism

[toxic radish]

what about

post DOG

pumpkin moon or

the ice one

zerg potion

[fading dove]

theyre bad

[toxic radish]

it have me 20 plat last time

oh

i didnt sell the items btw

only the mob coin drop

[fading dove]

spawn rate increases dont increase the amount of bosses able to be alive at once

[toxic radish]

o

and

the bosses werent the main source of money

they drop like 40 gold or smth

or less

but theres a lot more normal enemies

[fading dove]

well you spend a lot more time with bosses since waves 1-14 go by in like a minute

[smoky dock]

blood moons have the additional benefit of producing fast clocks, money troughs and blood orbs

which sell for like

quite a bit

[fading dove]

moon charms too

[smoky dock]

oh yeah those too

money troughs can be shimmered into 15 gold and a blorb

plus some other crap

[fading dove]

i think my blood moon test got like 160 moon charms

[toxic radish]

dude

thats takes long to sell

[fading dove]

nvm that is way more than 160

[toxic radish]

how do i sell fast though

mannualy

or is there some tool

[fading dove]

well you get a mod that fucks with your inventory

ofc you can always just use magic storage's bulk sell if you don't wanna get a 33% increase in sell prices due to npc happiness

[smoky dock]

you can always just not sell them

[fading dove]

it's a convenience fee

[smoky dock]

^

[toxic radish]

bulk sell

that exists

[fading dove]

609 moon charms jesus christ

[toxic radish]

how do i bulk sell..

[fading dove]

in the settings tab

[toxic radish]

okay

does that sell the chest

or inv

[fading dove]

i didnt even know this, i lost a ton of money that way then

[toxic radish]

wait

[fading dove]

it sells all duplicate items in the storage system

at base price

[toxic radish]

so

do i choose what it sells

[fading dove]

vaguely

[toxic radish]

vaugely

vaguely

[fading dove]

you can choose to keep the cheapest item, the most expensive item, or only sell things without a modifier

[toxic radish]

ithats

horrible

[fading dove]

thats all the control you have

its a convenience fee

[toxic radish]

bruh

[fading dove]

ofc i'd just make a separate storage system for this

[smoky dock]

You can spend a few seconds trashing everything, a few seconds selling at 100% value, or a lotta seconds selling at 133% value

Pick, western man

[toxic radish]

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BEAT THREE BOSSES

that all have over 2 million health

pre calamitas

exo mechs

[frank mauve]

shoot stuff and they die

[toxic radish]

great idea

[frank mauve]

its not really alot

[toxic radish]

dude

[frank mauve]

thanatos is a victim

[toxic radish]

my weapons to jack shit

[frank mauve]

ares is a devil devastation victim

[hybrid plank]

What build are you going

[toxic radish]

a

[toxic radish]

melle

[frank mauve]

twins are drage/orderbringer victim

[toxic radish]

which one

has the most health

i think

its the 4 arm dude

[frank mauve]

no idea never bothered to check

[toxic radish]

2.56m health

for one boss

[frank mauve]

they all die too easily to matter

[toxic radish]

thats more than DOG

what was draedon making bro

[smoky dock]

All of them have multiple hitboxes, so your attacks can hit multiple times each

[toxic radish]

thanatos

is

hich weapon'

which weapon

lowd u said thanatos is a victim to

what

[fading dove]

hunters and ares

[toxic radish]

okay

how does the worm have the leasth health is crazy to me

[hybrid plank]

Okay than your gonna want to get a dragon rage from Yharon and a Ataraxia

[fading dove]

cant hit it as much

[toxic radish]

i

[gloomy mist]

ataraxia is only good against exos if you get tainted on it afaik

[toxic radish]

dont wana fight yharon again

tried it

uh

i mean i need to ngl

[frank mauve]

nah

its good as solo weapon if u use purity

and tmelee 🤑

[hybrid plank]

Really Ataraxia is just there to help fight apllo

[smoky dock]

tmelee is mandatory for melee to do anything productive

[toxic radish]

WHY DO THEY HAVE SO MANY ATTACKSS

awh..

[hybrid plank]

Dragon Rage can deal with the rest of them

[toxic radish]

so

i need to beat yharon

or

i could farm

[gloomy mist]

im probably gonna delay doing infernum until 2.2

[toxic radish]

DOG

[toxic radish]

what

how does that make sense

in any way

does 2.2 add smthimportant

or

[gloomy mist]

because i've completed four calamity runs back to back

[smoky dock]

i heard 2.2 will buff true melee

[toxic radish]

is 2.2 new boss

[toxic radish]

oh

what about

[humble marlin]

geometry dash

[toxic radish]

the new bosses

yharim

[smoky dock]

no

[toxic radish]

WHat

whats the point of a whole new number then

[smoky dock]

Those aren’t coming this year

[gloomy mist]

hogwild

[toxic radish]

gazamn

[humble marlin]

yharim is planned to be released when the last update of cal releases

so not anytime soon

[toxic radish]

🫃

[toxic radish]

isnt

i remember i was watching a calamity lore video eh

also

i havent yetr

seen

a single yharim mention

except

[smoky dock]

When the hog update gets released I’m downgrading

[toxic radish]

yharims gift

[frank mauve]

how 🤔

[humble marlin]

the lore items are written by yharim

[smoky dock]

warbanner gets moved to preboss

hoad nerf reverted

[fading dove]

universal removal of contact damage and bosses are constantly sucked into the player

[toxic radish]

damn

the big ass laser

is a big ass laser

[frank mauve]

omg..

[toxic radish]

lazer

[frank mauve]

i will believe this

[smoky dock]

except the explosion on hit that gets buffed too

[humble marlin]

finally, homing tmelee

[smoky dock]

you will yes

[toxic radish]

so

exo mechs is a no go

[frank mauve]

doze said grape beer will make true melee homing

[toxic radish]

can i even craft anything

when i beat calamitas

shadow spec?

yea

i can craft

earth

[frank mauve]

u can make some broken melee weapons

like tainted orderbringer and ataraxia

[noble summit]

do u guys prefer infernum or fargos/wotm exos

[toxic radish]

woa

[toxic radish]

infenrum

WHY IS THIS WORM SO DAMN POWERFULL

what should i even use

to fight the worm

[frank mauve]

none

[frank mauve]

bro

[toxic radish]

yes

[frank mauve]

i gave u the list like 2 times

[toxic radish]

no

maybe

[frank mauve]

dragon rage for thanatos

[toxic radish]

yharon

is a bum to play

wait

i tottaly forgot

yea i can farm

ama go buy the loot rq i mean the bag

[noble summit]

u guys struggle on dog or exos more

tbh DoG has the most insane difficulty spike

[frank mauve]

u got post yharon gear

just go beat him

[toxic radish]

yes

uh

too hard

[frank mauve]

depends if u mean first pt or not

[gloomy mist]

what kills you the most against thanatos

[frank mauve]

cuz after first pt dog is nothing really

[noble summit]

i just don't like how unforgiving dog is cause ur basically one shot by the head and u gotta time it near perfect to dodge

[fading dove]

if youre ohkod by the head you made a bad loadout

[humble marlin]

-# you have like a 1.5s window to dodge

even with valor the window to ram and still get iframes is big

[gloomy mist]

thats more promising than wdo haruella

[frank mauve]

even with omega blue u barely get one shot ever

and its apparently a glass cannon armor

[toxic radish]

i wonder

how does the blood moon

give better money than the naughty present event

[sage pasture]

OH MY FUCKING GOD I JUST BEAT INFERNUM YHARON FOR THE 1ST TIME

[toxic radish]

attempts

[sage pasture]

38

[toxic radish]

damn ur a prodigy

i beat him in 100 attemtpts

[sage pasture]

dog was 80 im pretty sure

[toxic radish]

are u using nycros no hit efficienyl

effiecny

[sage pasture]

im only using some extra accessory slots(shield boot wing

)

[toxic radish]

my god

nycros

is a mod

that tracks ur attemptsd

how much of a boss u got left

not a accesory

[sage pasture]

i dont have nycris

nycros

[toxic radish]

ah

okay

also

good luck with the exo

im on them now

they look impossibel

impossible

u also

have to build the codebreaker

if u havent already tho

14 seconds

wiped by the twins exos

bruh

[sage pasture]

oh

how can i spawn?

honestly first time beating yharon and its in infernum

[toxic radish]

u gotta build the codebreaker

the whole one

theres parts to it

also

if u dididnt start already

its gonna take u

hours upon hours of waiting

for all the draedon batteries

bateries

batteries./..

[dapper lintel]

codebreaker

basic decryption computer

long ranged sensor

advanced display

voltage regulation system

auric quantum coil

get the schematics from the labs, so you can craft the components for the codebreaker

and call draedon

[ocean pivot]

this is abit overdue but is it normal for solynn to just not have a tent at her camp

[patent lodge]

Should I delete terraria overhaul and exchange it with wrath of the machines?

[frank mauve]

if youre gonna delete how will you exchange it?

you cant expect to show up empty-handed

[analog crescent]

Does cheat engine work with infernum to edit inventory?

[patent lodge]

I mean disable terraria overhaul mod

But active wotm one

[analog crescent]

I wanna try editing weapons to have insane damage number. Just for fun

[smoky dock]

No need

Dragonlens can do it in-game

You can think bigger than just bumping damage btw. I edited Submarine Shocker to shoot Bumblefuck plushies in the past

[frank mauve]

yeah thatd be recommended lowk

[noble summit]

Overhaul is one of the worst mods

Plus it doesn’t work with alot of other mods

WOTM exo’s is alot more flashy and fun imo but u can always experience both if u download it after

[patent lodge]

Yeah

And well in case of lag WOTM would be just for the exos

Terraria overhaul is on every single time

[frank mauve]

t overhaul doesnt work that well with calamity

[analog crescent]

How do you do that

[analog crescent]

Oh. It's another mod?

[smoky dock]

yeah

[sage pasture]

guys is zenith good in calamity infernum for exo mechs?

[fading dove]

yeah

[sage pasture]

is it the best weapon for exo mechs?

[fading dove]

no

[sage pasture]

what is then?

[frank mauve]

dragon rage

[elder nebula]

there is no best

[fading dove]

from my testing its ataraxia

[patent girder]

^^^

for me it was also ataraxia

[fading dove]

though it does require playing incredibly risky and also doing scal first

[patent girder]

but its been a little bit so

[frank mauve]

so not ataraxia

[sage pasture]

well for me it seems the great judgement or whatever

is the best

[fading dove]

?

orderbringer?

[sage pasture]

orderbringer

yes

[smoky dock]

pick a bunch of weapons at random and see what works best for you

[fading dove]

yeah orderbringer's pretty good

[frank mauve]

use devil devastation for ares, drage for thana and whatever for twins

[smoky dock]

also drage

[sage pasture]

devil devastation???

isnt that a pre yharon shit?

i mean thing?

[frank mauve]

yeah

[night fractal]

real answer is to switch to mage and use Hyperdeath Rift Scepter

[humble marlin]

at ninety two

[analog crescent]

@smoky dock what do you think is the strongest class rn in infernum?

[smoky dock]

summoner

overall it deals more damage than competition for no overall downside

in practice that answer will shift greatly all the time

Truthfully doing without a class at all is ideal. Cherry pick the broken apeshit stupid SSS tier bullshit is available in the moment and then stomp the hell out of whatever’s gatekeeping better

[analog crescent]

I see. Yeah I see the super high dps of summoner and the fact that it can hit bosses with no risk

[smoky dock]

Every class can hit bosses with no risk

Only summoner can do it without significant detriment

[analog crescent]

Even melee?

[smoky dock]

Yeah, just don’t engage in true melee

[sullen lava]

infernum crabulon just jumps when i dodge over him and never jumps when i try to dodge under him bro

[smoky dock]

Don’t try to go over Crabulon

Stay on the same level, stay close

[analog crescent]

And it seems summoner just has insane dps right now?

[smoky dock]

overall yes

[analog crescent]

But idk, I still hear melee being close for strongest class. Not sure

[smoky dock]

Exceptions exist everywhere

[smoky dock]

I have evidence as to why summoner is the best

So the method that the devs use to balance weapons is at least significantly impacted by how the weapon testers test weapons. Minions are tested with no support weapons or sentries

So, they’re balanced more or less to be competitive with everything else without support weapons or sentries

[analog crescent]

Support weapon as in whips?

[fading dove]

as in everything

[analog crescent]

And does it mean summoner should combine minions with sentries to maximize damage?

[smoky dock]

Yeah, plus weapons like Eye of Magnus, Golden Shower, Betsy’s Wrath, etc

But REAL summoners in practice will use minions, whips, miscellaneous support weapons AND sentries

[smoky dock]

Yes??????????? You have separate sentry slots

Failure to fill them is just actively detrimental

Even a Squirrel Squire will help

[fading dove]

theres no opportunity cost to sentry use

[analog crescent]

Oh, since my friend just uses minions only

[smoky dock]

Kill your friend then

[analog crescent]

Lmao

[night fractal]

yeah it's literally free damage to use sentries

There is genuinely no reason to not use them besides preference or laziness

[smoky dock]

But again, please do keep in mind that this is all data averaged throughout the entire game based on byproducts of the fundamental design of the classes

There will be a gazillion exceptions

[analog crescent]

Of course of course

[smoky dock]

The true best thing you can do to make the game as easy as possible is to not adhere to a class at all and to pick whichever class is the best in the moment

[analog crescent]

I will say. I'm glad I'm playing as melee for my first time playing terraria since it seems to be the most engaging class

[smoky dock]

Everyone has different opinions on the classes

[analog crescent]

I do try to use summoner minions as melee to increase my damage output

[smoky dock]

Good call

You still get sentries

[analog crescent]

I can summon up to 3 minions because of potions and a permanent summoner consumable

I haven't been using sentries at all. I'll keep that in mind next time I play

[sullen lava]

thanks, died a couple times to his arms 2nd phase but they were pretty easy to work out

[tropic mortar]

I died to dragonfolly.

[analog crescent]

Is it true that defense damage is not as big of a thing in infernum?

[tropic mortar]

Ye infernum does changes everything

[smoky dock]

Correct

[frank mauve]

yesh

[smoky dock]

Defense damage is pretty much only present on contact damage sources unchanged from basecal

[analog crescent]

Oh, so is building defense stronger in infernum than base cal? Or do the boss being stronger negate it?

[smoky dock]

No fat strats are about as good as they always were

Regen is meta right now

[analog crescent]

Oh damn alright. I'm at fishorn rn with 15 regen/s as melee

Should I aim for more? And yeah I'm just building fat with full beetle armor and every accessory being warding

[tropic mortar]

How i can fucking dodge smt i cant even see???

[maiden cobalt]

oh i just nevered used those lol

[smoky dock]

no not really

just keep on cruisin’ on with whatever you’re using until you start struggling

[analog crescent]

I see I see. Alright

Man true melee is so fun to play but it's annoying to chase down bosses or lose my adrenaline lol

[tropic mortar]

Nvm i killed him

2 attempt

[smoky dock]

Adrenaline is a myth

[sullen lava]

EoW surface or underground for infernum?

[tropic mortar]

Surface

You will need a lot of space

[tropic mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[smoky dock]

Yeah I am it’s not real

Sometimes when I do get it it does nothing and 🥺

[frank mauve]

hi it's not real

[smoky dock]

infernum nerfs adrenaline’s damage and charge rate and calamity further nerfs adrenaline whilst using true melee

[gloomy mist]

that's crazy

[tropic mortar]

Im still able to get adrenaline

Atleast 1 one time

[smoky dock]

i got it once and it couldn’t even get 40% off argus ts ass

[analog crescent]

Man it's satisfying to face tank bosses

[analog crescent]

Feel like ranger and summoner might be the only classes that can consistently use adrenaline

[smoky dock]

No anyone can

It just depends on strategy and boss knowledge

[sullen lava]

why is there 4 eater of worlds on my screen

[smoky dock]

They do that

[sullen lava]

yeah i see

would people reccomend having a wing slot mod for infernum or is that classed as 'cheating'

[eager veldt]

cheating is whatever you decide is cheating

[sullen lava]

true

im just struggling for slots cuz i have fledgling wings boots and shield

[smoky dock]

drop soc

you have default dash and it’s pretty good enough

[jagged kayak]

dude where im i supposed to find a fricking duck 💀

[dense ocean]

Water.

[eager veldt]

wraithgaming

[jagged kayak]

im running around for half an hour with zerg around pools on surface none spawned

[dense ocean]

Do it in a town.

[noble summit]

are the WOTG bosses hard on master mode

i might use some mods to make them harder

[dense ocean]

On Master mode?
They're not even that hard on Revengeance.

[noble summit]

fr

ima go on fargos then set the hp and dmg to 2.5 or smth

[dense ocean]

Just play on Death.

[noble summit]

o

[sage pasture]

guys in which order should i spawn the exo mechs? in infernum

[frank mauve]

twins ares

[fading dove]

i like thana + ares

thana + hunters also also decent

[sage pasture]

any tips on how to defeat twins? they are insanely strong

infernum

i mean exo mech twin

[frank mauve]

like how to dodge n all?

for their first attack i usually just spin around them

then the other attacks its just running from the twin that has the telegraphs

[strange hare]

hey ive been having trouble with lag while im playing with friends

and we're at after cryogen

and we realized that apparently calamity overhaul is bad for the world?

if we remove it now will it be fine or what

what does calamity overhaul add anyways

[dense ocean]

It adds fun things like spawning Supreme Witch, Calamitas in the middle of the game, giving you cheat weapons, and so on.
It removes guns and True Melee.

[alpine rapids]

is 15 minutes for the avatar of emptiness good or didi do something wrong

it felt like eternity too

[sullen lava]

wasnt expecting to 1 try hive mind

[dense ocean]

Like, the entire boss fight?

Or like, 15 minutes of attempts?

[alpine rapids]

enteire boss fight

it had like 28 million hp

[dense ocean]

I don't think he should take that long.

[alpine rapids]

the nameless deity was like 5 minutes max

[dense ocean]

Were you poking him with a stick?

[alpine rapids]

ark of cosmos

i tihnk

i was poking with a cosmic scissor

[frank mauve]

using mid weapon offtier

sounds great

[dense ocean]

Why not use post-game weapons?

[alpine rapids]

im a ark of cosmos mainer

i use it on everythingh

it sure is dumb tho

[frank mauve]

ark of the midsss

[alpine rapids]

the disrespect

i used the halibut cannon for deity

that was dumb too

[dense ocean]

I mean, it IS still overpowered.

[alpine rapids]

what is even an ideal weapon for aoe?

melee

[dense ocean]

Anything Shadowspec would be better.

[frank mauve]

hopefully not with infernum enabled aswell

[alpine rapids]

i beat the nameless deity on expert

aoe on like revengenance i think

i just change the difficulty based on boss difficulty i dont reall give a freak about sticking to one

[frank mauve]

yeah but was infernum enabled (mod not difficulty)

[alpine rapids]

it was enabled but the difficulty wasnt

does it mess with weapons

:C

[frank mauve]

yeah...

it nerfs halibut to pre exos/scal instead of post

[dense ocean]

WotG isn't even affected by Infernum.

[fading dove]

not a nerf, a retier

moved from postgame to post yharon

[alpine rapids]

my heart hurts learning this

i just play avarage i have zero knowledge

[frank mauve]

how long was the fight

[alpine rapids]

AoE was like 15-20 minutes

[fading dove]

halibut is also one of the worst postgame weapons

[alpine rapids]

deity was 5-6

[alpine rapids]

whats a ranger option

so i dont be a dumbas on my next playthru

[fading dove]

soma prime is your best

[alpine rapids]

is that dradeon

[fading dove]

no, draedon is draedon

[dense ocean]

No he's Dracula.

[alpine rapids]

😎

[fading dove]

draedon is in fact not a gun from warframe

[alpine rapids]

i know who dradeon is i thought it was a dradeon weapon

[dense ocean]

How?

[frank mauve]

just use contagion with the funny combo

[dense ocean]

You'd have to have talked to him TWICE to fight Nameless Deity.

[alpine rapids]

i have never seen this veapon before

[alpine rapids]

i used contagion for like a minute on the fight

[fading dove]

nameless also has rdr so weapon choice doesn't matter too much

[alpine rapids]

i wasnt focusing on the health bar but that was probably the part i was doin the most dps

😭

[fading dove]

as long as its a postgame weapon itll be good

[frank mauve]

in this case ud have homing aswell

[fading dove]

i still have to do a wotg 1.2 run

[alpine rapids]

i think i had uhh

holy flame bullet

[frank mauve]

well ND also has leviathan hitbox anyway

great

super great

[alpine rapids]

it is a dradeon weapon

i meant like dradeon forge

its obvious actually since its post game

[dense ocean]

You mean a Miracle Matter weapon?

And they're not post-game.

[sage pasture]

ok

[alpine rapids]

no i meant forge

[dense ocean]

Shadowspec weapons are post-game.

[alpine rapids]

soma prime uses shadowspec

???

[dense ocean]

Then use it.

[fading dove]

miracle matter weapons are not postgame

[alpine rapids]

i lost my last braincell

[alpine rapids]

sure arent

[fading dove]

that is what was being referred to with that statement

[alpine rapids]

shadowspec is

i might have to use ''gun'' on my next playthru of wrath of gods

[alpine rapids]

i got bored so now i just spray the deity over and over

with the spray of nothingness or somethin

[dapper lintel]

you can't use that

he kicks you out of the world

[alpine rapids]

i just do it over and over

he can kick but never ban me

im superior

[dense ocean]

-Lucifer.

[alpine rapids]

-hyper