calamity-addon-talk

[eager hound]

not a craftable item

but still wont work with my weapons

idk why

[gritty galleon]

technically it is drop item

should be

[frank mauve]

u beat exos and scal?

[eager hound]

yeah

im on avatar of emptiness

what a confuse boss

[gritty galleon]

imo avatar fight is better than deity fight

not in the music part tho

[eager hound]

OHHHH I SEE

i need to have 10 minion slot

[naive dock]

let's goooo

[granite mulch]

gg

[naive dock]

should I use exoblade/thanatos spine for scal?
also I am thinking about swapping sponge for draedon heart

[fading dove]

exoblade is useful for the sepulcher ohko

i'd recommend dropping aegis for void sash since there's no contact damage outside of the thing that dies in a single hit

[naive dock]

oh yeah

thanks for reminding me on that

[granite mulch]

use orderbringer

[granite mulch]

huh

i thought dragon rage was way better for sepulcher lol

[fading dove]

nope exoblade genuinely ohkos

[granite mulch]

damn

true melee though right

[fading dove]

and if it doesnt you've got a supercharged slash ready to get rid of what little health is left

[naive dock]

so exoblade for sepulcher and orderbringer for rest of the fight?

[weary mural]

bro what is up with your world

looks like t he backrooms

[naive dock]

it is my base

[fading dove]

exoblade's super easy to use while orderbringer can negatively affect visibility

though orderbringer's damage is a bit higher iirc

[naive dock]

true on the visibility part lol

i'll try just exoblade then ngl unless my damage feels bad

[naive dock]

is draedon heart swap worth it

[fading dove]

i think it would be

[naive dock]

cool

did draedon's gaming chair get removed or renamed?

[granite mulch]

its exo box

[frank mauve]

spine of thanatos with purity 🤑

[naive dock]

i can try that, do you use spine for the whole fight

[frank mauve]

drage for seppy then spine the whole fight

maybe exoblade for birds

[naive dock]

okay

where do you slot in purity

chalice seems least essential to me ig

[frank mauve]

if u want

i wouldnt use rampart ngl

[naive dock]

alright

[oak musk]

how do I get rid of that little icon in the top left? It keeps screwing me up as it cancels my attack

[elder nebula]

change the config for the cooldown rack

[oak musk]

which mod is it?

[elder nebula]

the calamity mod

[eager veldt]

this one

[oak musk]

ty

[jade raft]

is there a spreadsheet for the best weaponsin calamityh

[thorny fulcrum]

how do I enable infernum custom boss bar?

[elder nebula]

vanilla interface settings

[elder nebula]

*based purely on boss killtimes and nothing else
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10bgBHu7apfftITBOQVJrtYCiakZVGC4reJcvfJqMBEM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[naive dock]

for the purpose of healing in scal fight are empyrean knives or eye of magnus better?

[jade raft]

thanks

[naive dock]

also is wulfrum controller worth using here or is there a better use of my 3 summon slots

[thorny fulcrum]

thenks

[elder nebula]

brittle star staff right click

[frank mauve]

knives

[naive dock]

how long is scal's fight supposed to last

[smoky dock]

about five minutes

[naive dock]

my attempt just now was 7:30 and i got her to like 20% maybe

[smoky dock]

which weapon are you using

[naive dock]

spine

[smoky dock]

Ah I dunno how to uhh

I dunno how it typically works. It’s not a common choice

[granite mulch]

there are better weapons than spine tbf

[smoky dock]

Exoblade is really common. I think Spine of Thanatos is one of those “true melee weapons in disguise” where they don’t really function outside of true melee range despite not being true melee

[frank mauve]

like which

exoblade is worse than spine

[granite mulch]

orderbringer is faster i think

[frank mauve]

ataraxia requires aiming

[naive dock]

i am running purity too so i am surprised to be doing so little damage

[frank mauve]

orderbringer makes you blind

[granite mulch]

thats kinda valid argument but it isnt that bad

[frank mauve]

even with devil devastation i got 6min

how are u getting 7min without killing her

[naive dock]

probably because i switched to knives a fair bit too

[smoky dock]

Purity is extremely variable

[eager hound]

finaly

[smoky dock]

It can HURT your damage output just as easily as it can do nothing or improve it

[eager hound]

i have killed

the avatar of emptines

this item

is the best item in the game

[naive dock]

i just realised i can optimize my reforges too

[granite mulch]

lol

always do that

[naive dock]

do you have other rec then

[smoky dock]

Generic Defensive Accessory #2

[naive dock]

so rampart probably lol

[smoky dock]

when in doubt just slot in any defensive item

Yep

[eager hound]

that hand is scary as fuck

[frank mauve]

ima make a melee setup

and see how fast i kill scal

[dapper lintel]

it yoinks enemies

[frank mauve]

purity spine of thanatos

fearmonger aswell cuz why not

[woven rune]

no Arc Flash Ring 👎

[frank mauve]

nah orderbringer sucks against scal wth

[woven rune]

dogshit screen clutter

still somehow better than shitxoblade

[frank mauve]

like all that screen clutter just to be worse than spine of thanatos

orderbringer only good for exos confirmed fraud tier

[woven rune]

Admittedly the spine should be better

Post Exos > post Yharon

Exoblade is just

[frank mauve]

nah cuz

ppl be recommending orderbringer for scal

ts BOOTY

[woven rune]

For inf scal?

For base scal its not bad cause you dont need to see as much lmao

[frank mauve]

for scal in general

[woven rune]

idk why the friendly projectiles slider in fargos is so buns

if i could actually see while using orderbringer that would be so nice

[naive dock]

damn i died to scal despiration

attempt 7 though not bad

[frank mauve]

yeah no spine of thanatos is better than everything

[woven rune]

not surprising

[frank mauve]

didnt expect it to be this good ngl

like i already knew it was good but damn

[naive dock]

i'll try spine again ig

[frank mauve]

just use my setup

[smoky dock]

fear PEAKER

[woven rune]

I fricking LOVE Fearmonger!!!

That time it got buffed was awesome!!

[naive dock]

is there a reason you used worse belt

[frank mauve]

ok maybe dont use dark sun ring if u dont want

more control

less movement speed and the dash feels so comfortable

[woven rune]

I agree tbh

[naive dock]

idk i have some muscle memory now

[dapper lintel]

orderbringer works well against death mode scal

[frank mauve]

spine solo

[dapper lintel]

infernum scal

exoblade performs better because homing

[frank mauve]

spine solo x2

[woven rune]

shitxoblade gets mogged by either

👍

[frank mauve]

exoblade SOLE purpose is scal birds if u really cant aim

[woven rune]

i'd argue its better at sepulcher

thats the only thing its actually good at

right click dash + big swing and it instadies

[frank mauve]

yeah but is there other melee weapons that good for scal birds

[woven rune]

like anything that homes lmao

[frank mauve]

cuz for seppy she dies to anything

[woven rune]

true

[frank mauve]

like what

[woven rune]

orderbringer, nadir, spine, etc

[frank mauve]

exoblade homing is stupid u dont gotta aim at all for birds

[dapper lintel]

like previously said
exoblade

[frank mauve]

spine aint that good for birds

[dapper lintel]

i think dragon rage deletes the birds

[woven rune]

Orderbringer's got piercing and slightly lingering projectiles so it works well

birds arent hard though

[frank mauve]

ok exoblade genuinely delete seppy lol

this is celestus level

[woven rune]

yeah its like actually good at that

[frank mauve]

uhhhhhh i dont think the average player would wanna do that

anyway time to try out nadir

im p sure it doesnt like purity

so gotta switch

[smoky dock]

we should make evil class setups

[dapper lintel]

nadir doesn't seem a bad idea

[woven rune]

Nadir is cool

I like how it doesnt prevent me from seeing

[smoky dock]

better for everything but also anyone using the guide will not be able to use any of it correctly

[woven rune]

And it isnt ugly and stupid looking and ugly and stupid like Exoblade

[dapper lintel]

and as i said before
orderbringer works well against scal during the entire fight in death mode
exoblade barely beats order because of miracle blight debuff and rebound from right click

[devout sand]

Is stealth rogue actually usable now

[frank mauve]

purity nadir is eh

[woven rune]

oh are you aiming at the target

[smoky dock]

always was

[woven rune]

Nadir works better if you miss and have the projectile arc back around from my experience

[devout sand]

Is crystalline still peak

I heard someone say it’s ass

I don’t know how true that is

[smoky dock]

It'd be strange if it wasn't

[frank mauve]

oh nadir is so peak without purity

[smoky dock]

You can't really take anything anyone says about stealth rogue seriously because it has so much variation between when it's used correctly and when it's used incorrectly

[devout sand]

Good cause it’s my favorite weapon line

[woven rune]

Its not bad at all

Use Arc Flash with it

It hits like a billion times a second

[smoky dock]

"Stealth rogue is ass" -Quote from someone who used stealth rogue so horrifically wrong it's amazing they were able to tolerate using it at all

[devout sand]

Stealth over spam anyday

[frank mauve]

already

[woven rune]

word

[smoky dock]

same i agree

[devout sand]

It’s now been 4 years since I played rogue tho

[frank mauve]

how does nadir

[smoky dock]

If stealth was hypothetically worse I wouldn't give a shit

[frank mauve]

have better dps constantly

than exoblade burst dps

[smoky dock]

I have the class gimmick I will use the class gimmick

[woven rune]

because exoblade is dogshit

[frank mauve]

why is exoblade so shit

[woven rune]

Ive beeen saying this

[devout sand]

lowkey yeah

Spine of Thanatos is so much better

[naive dock]

i died in desperation again bc i tried to use gaming chair but i was not used to it at all lmao

[woven rune]

Melee gets cucked so hard on miracle matter tier

Fym we only get one weapon and its also shit 😭

[devout sand]

the only class that doesn’t imo is summoner and rogue

[smoky dock]

proof that scal first is meta

[frank mauve]

not as bad as preml tier

[devout sand]

Idk how rogue is tho ngl

[frank mauve]

rogue got nice stuff

[smoky dock]

rogue gets supernova which is nice

gem tech likes rogue

[devout sand]

yeah I figured that was good

[woven rune]

pre ml is honestly fine cause Grand Guardian is insane

[frank mauve]

celestus spam and supernova staealth

[frank mauve]

buddy thats your ONLY usable option

everything else is Z tier

[devout sand]

Is he true melee

[woven rune]

and its great

but yeah idk man

[devout sand]

Or just normal melee

[frank mauve]

at least other classes have choices

[woven rune]

why did cal nerf Daybreak again

[frank mauve]

but melee?

nothing

[woven rune]

wasnt there a time where it was good

[smoky dock]

grand guardian or cry

[devout sand]

I just use entropic claymore

[woven rune]

what the hell happened to it

[smoky dock]

what if hoad stars homed in

[devout sand]

It’s kinda cheeks but it’s homing and I can’t aim

[frank mauve]

daybreak sucks ass on inf ml

[woven rune]

they should

[smoky dock]

if you’re using true melee just use grand guardian

[frank mauve]

decent on basecal ml

[woven rune]

why do they fall on top of the player and not the enemy you hit

[smoky dock]

to encourage you to play aggressively I guess

HoAD is the accessory for if you want to roleplay a rabid animal

[frank mauve]

for giant pearl obviously

[weary mural]

is there any way to see more in the abyss than just the line of sight?

i have the diving gear, buffs, best pet for light

[naive dock]

GGs calamity infernum

[woven rune]

gg

[weary mural]

and i still lose my breath fairly quick even with diamond of the deep and the diving gear

[woven rune]

mods get him

[frank mauve]

damn how u see that

[woven rune]

idek but its funny

[frank mauve]

oh also i can use grape beer and purity what should i test 🤔

[woven rune]

how

isnt it disabled

[frank mauve]

i downgraded cuz scal lagged for me

[woven rune]

oh lol

they released a patch for that but uhh

[frank mauve]

i might stay on this version ngl

[woven rune]

try monsoon with wooden arrows on DoG

Monsoon and Grape Beer is solid normally so maybe its cracked with Purity

[naive dock]

my final fight was still 7:20 lol

[woven rune]

valid

actually nah DoG has the lame ass text in that version

[frank mauve]

usually u want monsoon and daawnlight alone

[frank mauve]

i never notice the dialogue ngl

never cared for it

[woven rune]

Idk how good it'll be

But its funny with DoG cause the whirlpool will home in on him

Hits his segments and head at the same time

[frank mauve]

cant even see the dummy

[woven rune]

Im gonna miss you grape beer

[frank mauve]

i cant even turn off purity particles on this ver

[fervent lance]

scions curio or claw carapace for pre skeletron?

[woven rune]

Carapace

Skeletron is immune to all debuffs iirc

[fervent lance]

ok thanks also do my accessories look fine rn or should i swap them out for anything

[woven rune]

Fledgling Wings -> Skyline Wings

I normally never use Shield of Cthulhu but if you like it then its fine

[fervent lance]

👍

[naive dock]

is this optimal for boss rush

especially curious about summon

oh i should probably run shield dash

[heavy moat]

Place

[naive dock]

looks good

[safe prairie]

what item can i use to change time to night pre skeletron

[fading dove]

are you on infernum

[safe prairie]

yeah

[fading dove]

use the skeletron summon item you get when first summoning it

[near wedge]

Finally beat the game

[fading dove]

if its day then it sets the time to 7:30pm

[safe prairie]

oh ye i keep forgetting about that

ty

[near wedge]

looking forward to replaying when the next update comes out

this time without the QOL mods

[smoky dock]

🎉

Good

[dusty cobalt]

Type shit

[near wedge]

wait

which exo mech drops atlas munitions beacon?

[frank mauve]

thanatos

[near wedge]

Yeah think im just ending my playthrough here

I beat calamity

Wrath of the gods is actually awful

literally 5-10 minutes to beat avatar of emptiness and im not even close

not worth breaking my monitor over

[smoky dock]

can't you use a silly funny like

tainted earth or something

wait no earth is already tainted

earth and demonshade

[frank mauve]

the knives have nice dps

the ozzatron yoyo is decent a bit

[vital mulch]

calamity devs saw melee players enjoying wotg a little too much so they made all the shadowspec melees terrible for those bosses

[smoky dock]

there's still that one that doesn't lose charge from ephemeral

[thorny fulcrum]

does wrath of the gods start in hardmode?

[vital mulch]

post skeletron but you need it from the start for worldgen

[smoky dock]

Technically it starts immediately

[woven rune]

Red Sun mentioned??

I love my lag machine sword

[wicked cedar]

i used omega armor ability and now my game is at 2fps 😭

hpw long does this last

gah damn

[distant cargo]

How do I remove Jharim??

[sweet kettle]

this makes dodging so hard (it doesnt)

[wicked cedar]

LMAO

shes dead 😭

i skipped her crystal phase

[distant cargo]

Who is Jharim

[wicked cedar]

thats kinda wild

[distant cargo]

I need him outt

[wicked cedar]

april fools npc i think

[distant cargo]

How do I remove him

[wicked cedar]

idk

[distant cargo]

??? 😭😭😭😭

[wicked cedar]

i dont have him in my world

[distant cargo]

Howww

What

[south bramble]

is it just me or has the new update broken so many things in infernum

mainly post moonlord

[wicked cedar]

yeah DoG aint that bad

[graceful blaze]

how is infernal eclipse?

[humble marlin]

infernal

[wicked cedar]

yeah this is not bad

[naive dock]

Between mage and rogue which one is in an overall more fun state for infernum rn?

[spiral jewel]

Healer being op is an understatement

I just first tried the hellheim primordials like nothing

And the reality slicer? It kinda melted yharon

It does feel like playing a paladin

[spiral jewel]

Probably mage

Rogue is still shitty

[little steppe]

I mean fun is vvery subjective to say one

imo it'd be uh

rogue probly

between the 2

[west bluff]

Can someone help me? I want to defeat providence while enraged so i summoned it at night in hollow but it wont enraged

Oh wait oops wrong chat

[dapper lintel]

In infernum?

Or basecal?

[west bluff]

No like in expert

[dapper lintel]

That's

Why i'm asking

Just expert?

[west bluff]

Oh sorry with revengence too

[forest summit]

guys does celestial weapons from stars above get dmg buff from true melee accessories?

[dapper lintel]

It has a small change

As of enraged prov

Use the summon twice

"Now enrages when the Profaned Core is used again while above 95% health instead of at nighttime. This is accompanied by a new enrage animation. During the enrage animation, existing Providence projectiles are despawned and she will heal back to full health."

[west bluff]

OH IT WORK THANK YOU SO MUCHH

[sweet kettle]

what are they doin bro 😭

[little steppe]

farm aura

[dapper lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-dbz-dragon-ball-piccolo-standing-on-tower-tower-gif-13558229454457057953

[sweet kettle]

what is lead doing next to the abyss bro 😭

[cerulean birch]

What happen to infernum

It no work

whar

[astral flame]

does anyone know if purity and grape beer are bugged or patched, saw in yardis video him using both and working for him

[spice pike]

Will community remix and Fargos dlc crash when ran together?

[steady sundial]

is master death mode harder than infernum?

[spice pike]

Haven’t played Infernum in ages. Master death used to be, maybe not anymore.

[steady sundial]

yh ive heard people say master death is harder than maso but idk

i just want a step up from infernum

but som,ething acc fun

[quick rose]

you mean pre brainstorm master death or the current death mode

[steady sundial]

i guess current

[quick rose]

then its easier

[steady sundial]

easier than infernum or maso

[quick rose]

both

[steady sundial]

right thanks

would you reccomend anything after infernum?

[quick rose]

probably eternity revengeance or masochist death

[steady sundial]

ok ty

[quick rose]

if you beat masochist without dlc already, you can go straight to masochist death

[steep cobalt]

nah masodeath immediately

[dim acorn]

are there any good ranger weapons worth getting pre hm in calamity ranger expansion mod

[wicked cedar]

just get grape beer and use any weapon you feel is good

[dim acorn]

whats the point tho

less damage for homing?

[gaunt vessel]

I got told to use it by someone

[tough pecan]

astrageldon is fucking easy bro

it CANNOT be that hard

[edgy birch]

anyone know of a mod that shows a global dps meter for multiplayer?

i kinda wanna see how much i contribute in these bosses with my mage and summoner items

[faint trench]

sexcam on vc in my bio 😁

[edgy birch]

????

not the advice i was looking for

[merry harness]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-emoji-emoji-tooth-tooth-emoji-happy-to-sad-happy-to-sad-emoji-gif-15583437630749702489

[merry harness]

like better damage calc

it shows all sources of damage and their percentages

[sour gull]

some interesting addons we talk about here huh

[gaunt vessel]

Anything else I should be using for pre-exo?

[tough pecan]

no that should be good enough for a melee

[toxic radish]

yo

calamity infernum

made golem acctualy hard

and it broke alll my platforms

yo

and it introduced undertale fighting mechanics or smth

[granite mulch]

wait for polterghast

[rancid radish]

guys are addons worth using?

[wicked cedar]

eeehhhh

this is kinda broken on true melee

but are you really true meleeing if u use this

[gaunt vessel]

ok ok

[wicked cedar]

yeah...

what is going in in here

[rain pond]

chat i just beat moonlord

[leaden cosmos]

what in the pixel inconsistancy

wonr channel

[rancid radish]

Guys what addons are worth using?

[gloomy wedge]

Have you beaten calamity before?

[rancid radish]

yeah

[jade raft]

for dog infernum what distance between platforms is good

[gloomy wedge]

Have you beaten brainstorm?

[rancid radish]

idk what brainstorm is

[gloomy wedge]

As long as you can go

[gloomy wedge]

The most recent update

[rancid radish]

oh, yeah i did

[jade raft]

vertically

[gloomy wedge]

Then yeah do addons

[jade raft]

not horizontally

[gloomy wedge]

And horizontally but that’s a given

[jade raft]

???

[gloomy wedge]

Just try putting as much space as possible between them

Platforms WILL mess you up

[rancid radish]

yeah, i was kinda asking which ones are worth using

[jade raft]

i start getting damage from dog when i run out of flight time

[gloomy wedge]

Infernum is the main one

[jade raft]

i was thinking that a faster fall speed would help a lot

[gloomy wedge]

Then measure your flight time

And make platforms at the peak

[gloomy wedge]

Slimy saddle

[jade raft]

i guess bro

[gloomy wedge]

What else do you want me to tell you

It’s by far the best option

[rain pond]

why cant I summon providence in infernum

[gaunt vessel]

Yooo How tf do I beat ares exo?

[wicked cedar]

i think pogo stick is better?

i think thats the mount name

[wicked cedar]

you gotta get to the most right side of hell

theres an altar inside the room

[granite mulch]

dragon pow lowkey melts this guy

[jade raft]

arena incoming

[weary mural]

dude this dash attack on the old duke is so annoying

apparently you can just use the parry dash, but ive never used that shit and its annoying so im just rawdogging it

[jade raft]

ram dash is like the only way you will win lol

[weary mural]

ive got it to 5% hp without it

i was no hitting until the last phase

[jade raft]

if you are playing infernum you are best off leaerning it on old duke otherwise DOG will be hard

[weary mural]

you can do it, just the timing needs to be right

[jade raft]

yeah thats true

i mean if you can do it go for it

[weary mural]

im full flight speed build

[jade raft]

im just saying dog will be a nightmare

[frank mauve]

gotta be constantly flying up/down to dodge that without a ramdash

[jade raft]

for me im on like 110 attempts still learning dog infernum

[frank mauve]

is that ankh shield

[weary mural]

yeah you can do a little circle to bait him into the dash

yes it is

[frank mauve]

what..

[weary mural]

what

[frank mauve]

ankh shield is useless

[weary mural]

hw come

[jade raft]

true lol

[frank mauve]

at most its giving u a bunch of defense

[jade raft]

whats the optimal platform length for dog between each one vertically

[frank mauve]

the immunities are useless and the knockback immunity u already got from absorber

[weary mural]

is it not good for the debuff protection

i suppose that would make sense out of boss fights

[edgy birch]

no music, windy and some black hole in the sky after moon lord

what does that mean

[frank mauve]

evil guy from wotg blocking the sun

[carmine narwhal]

what should i change for dog im at like 140 attempts

[weary mural]

emblem

show your arena

also are you all warding

[jade raft]

all warding against dog ?

[carmine narwhal]

I'm full lucky

[weary mural]

i guess?

[jade raft]

why

[frank mauve]

armored better ngl

[jade raft]

it two shots you anyway

[weary mural]

its just the head that two shots you right

[carmine narwhal]

last phase keeps cooking me

[jade raft]

i always go all menacing but i might have to go full quick

[weary mural]

i wonder if lucky vs menacing is best on ranged

i guess it depends on the build?

dawnlight of spirit origin seems good with lucky

[carmine narwhal]

what do i swap emblem for

[frank mauve]

sealocket or flesh totem

[carmine narwhal]

is argus hard i havent fought him yet

ts my first playthrough

[weary mural]

would some movement work as well? ascendant insignia

[frank mauve]

usually tarragon wings are enough

[jade raft]

is void strifer boots any good for dog

or should i be using wings

is the providence wings better or the tarragon ones

[weary mural]

honestly to me the difference between those boots and wings is negligible

im using strifers rn

[frank mauve]

tarragon wings supremacy 🤤

[pine pewter]

it's a preml boss and you have Post-Polter gear

[frank mauve]

argus is still hard though

the real challenge is keeping boss progression

[pine pewter]

real

[weary mural]

my autism keeps me from deviating from the boss checklist order

[carmine narwhal]

Is it worth getting over flesh totem

[jade raft]

argus was fun

[pine pewter]

I use Sealocket over Totem

[frank mauve]

depends what u need

[pine pewter]

for preml Yharon

[frank mauve]

sealocket offers 2 "dodges" but with a fixed cd of 90 sec while flesh totem is 1 "dodge" for 20 sec

[carmine narwhal]

is rogue bad for a first infernum run

[weary mural]

sealockt also gives damage

[pine pewter]

Is sealocket 67% reduction?

[weary mural]

60

[frank mauve]

60

[pine pewter]

ah

[weary mural]

6 7

[frank mauve]

flesh is 50

[pine pewter]

stfu

[frank mauve]

crescent staff is 66

[pine pewter]

I see

[frank mauve]

wait no was it not reduced to 60

[weary mural]

66 + 1 = 67

[pine pewter]

Thought it was 2/3

[weary mural]

2/3 of 100 = 66.6666 = 67

holy shit

[pine pewter]

wiki says 60%

Also 6 7 is dead people need to stop pushing it

[jade raft]

elysian wings or tarragon wings

[frank mauve]

tarragon 🤤

[weary mural]

elysian

for speed

[frank mauve]

u will never need that speed

[weary mural]

my doctor trying to get me to stop taking amphetamines

[merry harness]

nah its still alive

[loud sun]

whats the best rogue spam weapon for old duke infernum

[pine pewter]

Valediction + Purity did pretty well

[frank mauve]

^

[frank mauve]

make the doctor take it

[loud sun]

bro my whole build is crit

[frank mauve]

then just use valediction normally

no purity

[carmine narwhal]

vega is goated

[loud sun]

vega?

[loud sun]

ohhh

is it good again duke as spam rogue

[frank mauve]

it requires aiming

[carmine narwhal]

yea it gives you stealth strikes with spam

[frank mauve]

and its whole gimmick is stealth

[carmine narwhal]

i mean old duke is just ramming so aim is pretty easy

[loud sun]

but im playing with my friend and he has all the aggro

[carmine narwhal]

I just did it btw ty for flesh totem

[loud sun]

hes offscreen half of the time with me

[frank mauve]

lets goo

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[carmine narwhal]

oh prolly valediction then

[loud sun]

ok

[oak iris]

hey can i ask
how bad is stealth rogue

i havent started it yet so uhh

[carmine narwhal]

i havent played any infernum classes bsides it but it feels alr

theres some broken weapons like dukes decapitator

[oak iris]

the green beam

[smoky dock]

stealth rogue is fine

[weary mural]

my doctor takes lean

[weary mural]

please tell me how to make the screen brighter than this in the abyss

or is this by design

its horrible

[jade raft]

how do i beat infernum dog bro

[night fractal]

could try The Pointer

[smoky dock]

Go to the Calamity wiki and look at the page for the Abyss

There are like, a dozen items that expand view range

[weary mural]

i am on infernum btw

i have over 7 light

easily

[jade raft]

pre dog is community or affliction better

[frank mauve]

phantomic artifact suck

[jade raft]

oh

[frank mauve]

also what summons are you using

[jade raft]

ethereal subj

[night fractal]

Affliction is more defensive, Community is more offensive. Neither is worth using for summoner or stealth rogue

[jade raft]

i see

[frank mauve]

if u dont mind coiling then virid is better

[jade raft]

what loadout should i be using then

[frank mauve]

but subjugator without coiling is still good

[jade raft]

i dont really wanna coil

[night fractal]

Replace phantomic artifact with Profaned Soul Artifact and affliction with Papyrus Scarab imo

[jade raft]

Aight

[night fractal]

if you're wanting to go glassier, Stardust armor is significantly better damage

[jade raft]

'

[jade raft]

is it really

i guess ill try it

should i be using teryu?

the stardust dragon upgrade

[frank mauve]

lowk suck on inf dog ngl

[jade raft]

really how so

[frank mauve]

ur just better off going full subj

[jade raft]

alr alr

sentry wise?

[weary mural]

what items do you have in mind that arent equipped

pls

[jade raft]

i feel like the old duke sentry is never close enough

[frank mauve]

could do lunar

could do sanctified and itll follow you

[jade raft]

yeah thats what im using

i like it a lot

[covert estuary]

what do i do in wrath of the machines when fucking everyone , everything , all at once decides to fight me

[smoky dock]

I don’t know I haven’t gone to the abyss in months

[weary mural]

[smoky dock]

Please use the wiki

[weary mural]

bro i have used the wiki

so i came here

[jade raft]

just use abyssal diving gear

[weary mural]

i am

[jade raft]

and like shine potions

night vision

whater

[weary mural]

did infernum change it?

to be always a small circle

[jade raft]

for me t was a small circle with a beam coming in front of me

[frank mauve]

theres an abyss light guide

[weary mural]

okay, idk how tf im expected to fight this eidolian worm

i have probably double the light required to have vision in layer 4

i have 12 light

[toxic radish]

do i need to make the codebreaker'

[dense eagle]

yes

always

[toxic radish]

and is auestrum aeures or smth needed to baet the game

[dense eagle]

no

[toxic radish]

then

whats

the reason

[dense eagle]

exo mechs you summon with codebreaker

[toxic radish]

and why would i fight the exo mechs

[dense eagle]

you can craft various weapons with codebreaker

[toxic radish]

eh

im gonna make it after the moon lord ngl

if i can

get to that

even

withe hardest part

is finding

the facilities

[dense eagle]

no

nothing is hard in making it

if you are exploring the world

cuz im pretty sure you skipped all the labs which have the lab seeking mechanisms

i dont understand why ignore new content the mod gives xd

[toxic radish]

a

[toxic radish]

well

i kinda rushed it

15 hour run

and im at pre lunatic

[dense eagle]

[minor beacon]

hey guys, pretty new to calamity. What mods do you recommend playing along the calamity mod?

[toxic radish]

idk if thats

rushing

[toxic radish]

uh

alchemist if u want

[dense eagle]

not many

[toxic radish]

fargos

just qol potions or smth

[dense eagle]

those are big qol mods

[toxic radish]

wow i didint know

[dense eagle]

expecially when you dont know what cal adds, dont use those

[toxic radish]

alright

[dense eagle]

cuz cal already makes stuff easier

[minor beacon]

I've seen videos, where people talked about 50 mods or something. I think thats over the top though

[toxic radish]

i used them on my first run

[dense eagle]

max 10

[minor beacon]

Is there a list somewehre here?

[dense eagle]

is usually the case

[jade raft]

bro ive done 190 attempts and the lowest hp ive gotten dog is 20%

[dense eagle]

get recipe browser and boss checklist lite

calamity mod

calamity music

all those are enough for full calamity experience

the only qol mod i can recommend is magic storage if you hate chests a lot

cuz calamity doesnt really do anything with chests

[dense eagle]

content mods usually adds their own qol stuff so most of the times, you dont really need those mods unless its your third+ time with this content mod

[minor beacon]

Okay and the fargo mods?

[dense eagle]

fargo mutant is another big qol which imo isnt needed with how calamity already makes stuff easier to do

[rain pond]

why was providence so hard damn

do I use celestial starboard or elysian wings now

[dense eagle]

its nice when you played the mod already

but for your first time, dont break your experience with qol

cal adds a lot

[minor beacon]

So first gameplay with the ones you've named, afterwards more if I like?

[dense eagle]

those are enough for the first playthrough

you can also add begone evil if you hate the spread that much

[minor beacon]

Alright, thank you verym uch!

[dense eagle]

np

[tough pecan]

i ram dashed infernum yharon final phased til he died bro

am i good

[frank mauve]

yeah

[jade raft]

myt arena is too small i keep getting caught on the left edge and dying

[fiery mango]

Arena? I hardly know er!

[dense eagle]

what boss?

[jade raft]

dog

horzontal ram dashing

when the big white star thing comes out

and he dashes whre you are

[dense eagle]

thats why im not fond of making a hole in the ground as a base for your arena

[jade raft]

im usually caught n a weird spot and have to go either vertically or dash to the right which im not used to

[dense eagle]

you will hit the wall

[rain pond]

elysian wings or celestial starboard?

[jade raft]

elaborate?

[dense eagle]

i personally just placed platform

[dense eagle]

and cleared the sky

[jade raft]

i think thats a problem if you vertically dash

im never caught at the bottom

i just need to expand horizontallly

[dense temple]

If you're struggling on Infernum DoG, I recommend using Calamity's dash keybind instead of double-tapping to dash
Makes it easier to avoid messing up the timings
If you're really struggling, use Leviathan Ambergris to reduce your dash cooldown

[tough pecan]

elysian if you want faster speed celestial starboard if you want hover

[jade raft]

im using w to dash yeah

[tough pecan]

use F bro

its way faster

[jade raft]

not for me

[rain pond]

my dash key is Q

[jade raft]

if im moving to the right i have to take my finger off of d to press f

if that makes sense

[dense temple]

Mine is S
Just use whatever's really convenient for you to press

[tough pecan]

how do you go down a platform bro 😭

[dense temple]

I don't use WASD for movement and never have

[dense eagle]

he doesnt use platforms

[dense temple]

I grew up on Flash games, it's engrained into my memory to play with arrow keys and the keys around ZXC for actions

Too used to it

[jade raft]

how do you aim?

[dense temple]

Trackpad

[jade raft]

thats rough

[dense temple]

I mean, consider I've been playing games like this for over a decade

[dense eagle]

how do you deal with trackpad drift?

[dense temple]

By not having it?

The one I use lets me double-tap to act as "holding left click" and so long as I keep my finger on the pad after the second tap, it acts like it's being held down

So I just have to drag

[tough pecan]

wow

this guy is insane

[dense temple]

The downside to getting used to using a trackpad is any action involving holding right-click is... not so easy. Mostly because mine's broken.

[dense temple]

I blame masodeath for that, not my control setup

[jade raft]

this guy might be insanew

[tough pecan]

fair enough

[dense eagle]

true

[tough pecan]

masodeath is hard

[dense eagle]

mine usually dont want to rightclick

[dense temple]

Once you spend 200+ attempts on Mutant including dying to desperation about 15 times you never really go back to being sane

[dense temple]

I mean there's also the time I did old Malice, the time I did old For the Worthy, the time I'm doing current For the Worthy which is right now (never expected to get stuck on Cultist but he's legit the hardest boss up to this point and it's not even close)...

...when you're almost at 2,000 hours on tModLoader you kind of have to go insane

[tough pecan]

i just realized i went from prehardmode yesterday to pre exo today 💔

[dense temple]

Wouldn't be very fun if I just played normal death mode every time. Gotta spice things up.

Where's my "but it refused" screenshot, one sec...

[jade raft]

all on trcakpad and arrow keys btw

[dense temple]

This was my first Infernum run

[dense temple]

It's really not so bad once you get used to it...

[jade raft]

i feel like i tmight take me a thousand so

[dense temple]

Like it sounds bad if you've never done it but throw in 10+ years of muscle memory

[dense temple]

If it makes you feel better, my next Infernum run, DoG took me 93 attempts... to no-hit

And it's never taken more than 10 since

99% of this fight is getting the dash timings down

Once you finally figure that out it becomes piss-easy

[jade raft]

i feel like i have

its just my arena makes me have to think about where. i am respective to the arena and the boss way too often

[dense temple]

Are you having DoG dash horizontally to you, or vertically

[dense eagle]

i used melee speed build with trident to outdash him

[jade raft]

horizontral

[dense temple]

If arena space is a problem, I'd recommend learning vertical

Everyone I talk to hates on vertical but I found it easier

[jade raft]

like i can no hit the boss easily until i get adrenaline

[tough pecan]

thats a lot of attempt

[dense temple]

Weirdly, it's because the timing on vertical is tighter

[jade raft]

and then when i got adrenaline i just like crumble caus i try to click it

[dense temple]

But the consequence of that is you just fall into a rhythm and it's all instinct

[dense temple]

Bind adrenaline to a key you're always pressing, like left click or dash

That way you'll naturally activate it as you fight

[jade raft]

i feel like there is more chance to get hit by a body segment if the dash goes through too many

sements

[jade raft]

This guy might be a genius

[dense temple]

Not a worry with vertical, the only segment you dash through is the head

[dense temple]

Nah, I learned it from watching Yardis cuz he does that with rage

[tough pecan]

yardis is goated

[dense temple]

You generally don't want to auto-activate adrenaline because you want to time it well so you can make the most out of it, but if you're struggling with a boss like Infernum DoG it's not a bad idea

[rain pond]

DoG is easy

[jade raft]

yeah i binded itg to dash

[dense temple]

Better to do so with rage cuz it's a lesser damage boost and lasts longer

[rain pond]

what part do you die to?

[dense temple]

But yeah it's not the worst idea to do it with adren

[jade raft]

i think around like 26%

idk what phase

[rain pond]

any specific attack that keeps killing you or

[dense temple]

Ok, so the next time you fight DoG

Don't even attack, just dodge, and count

[tough pecan]

right before the final phase too huh

[dense temple]

So you have it in your mind how many times he dashes before going into a portal, for instance

[jade raft]

probably like not expecting it to dash reallt fast

[rain pond]

you have to predict

[jade raft]

like after a certain atack i dont realise i need to start ramdashing

[dense temple]

Then when you resume actual attempts, you can keep in mind "okay it's 7 dashes then teleport" (not sure if that's the exact number)

One thing to remember is that DoG will always go straight out of a portal dash

[tough pecan]

infernum dog does 7 dash?

[jade raft]

yeah that makes sense

[dense temple]

Random number for an example, not sure what the actual number is

[rain pond]

infernum dog doesnt seem that bad

[tough pecan]

ah

[rain pond]

I always kill him first try in revengeance

[dense temple]

So when you see the line, go away from the portal and go UP (or down, but up is easier)

Then just get ready to start dashing again

[jade raft]

that is very different dawg

[tough pecan]

brother.

two completely different thing

[jade raft]

is this ragebait

[rain pond]

I mean infernum seems pretty easy i just finished providence

no boss took me more than 5 tries

[tough pecan]

calamity revengeance/death vs infernum

[dense temple]

A tip for vertical is every time you dash right (or left), to briefly hold the other direction key
And to alternate going diagonally up and down for each dash depending on what gets you the most distance from DoG

It'll make timing it easier, you'll have a less punishing window

And you avoid getting DoG to dash diagonally to you which is harder to time

[rain pond]

is infernum dog really that hard?

[dense temple]

Only the first time

[rain pond]

I better prepare then since im fighting him before polterghasy

[dense temple]

Once you've got the fight down to muscle memory, it's piss easy

[tough pecan]

Depends if you dash good or not

[jade raft]

planetoid gotta go bruh

[rain pond]

polterghasy too hard

[dense temple]

But it is REALLY hard to learn the fight, and takes a lot of trial and error to figure out

Took me 721 my first time

[tough pecan]

It's just plantera with extra skill

[dense temple]

Granted, it was a harder version of DoG, but still

[jade raft]

polter wasnt too bad

it took 25 tries

[dense temple]

(and I was doing summoner which is the worst class for DoG)

[tough pecan]

Infernum polter is hard

[rain pond]

I mean i beat duke fishron easily

so that must counf

[jade raft]

duke fish i beat first try

[tough pecan]

Brother completely different thing

[jade raft]

i think the stuff you get is like really op at that stage

[dense temple]

Infernum is laughable in hardmode

[tough pecan]

It usually took me 1 try for duke with other class except rogue

[tough pecan]

Complete joke

Infernum is easy

[dense temple]

I don't know what they did to HM bosses but it feels like they all have -50% DR or something

They die so fast

Mechs can be a roadblock your first time tho

[rain pond]

I only have one question

[dense temple]

But after that it's like... everything dies so fast

[rain pond]

is the 3 sentinels of devourer hard in calamity

[jade raft]

i was like oh its deda

[dense temple]

In basecal, only CV is hard

[jade raft]

i thinki beat them all first try

[rain pond]

my mechs were very easy

[dense temple]

Weaver is easy after a bit and Signus is just circling

[rain pond]

signus took me 4 hours to beat the rust time

first*

[jade raft]

oh

[dense temple]

In Infernum, all three are relatively easy

[jade raft]

i beat signus first by accident

[rain pond]

I beat storm weaver and ceaseless void first try though

[dense temple]

They're hard, but compared to the rest of Infernum, they're easy
So if you've made it that far it won't be too hard

[rain pond]

why is signus so hard skh

[dense temple]

Basecal CV is the hardest boss in the mod for me

[tough pecan]

Didnt you play in revengeance

[rain pond]

empress of light was such a cool fight but shes too easy

[dense temple]

Everyone has that one boss for them

[jade raft]

im assumign hes doing an infernum run now

[rain pond]

I did

im in infernum at providence

[dense temple]

That you just inexplicably suck at
And for me it's Ceaseless Void

[rain pond]

just beat her

[tough pecan]

Nice

[dense temple]

(In infernum it's ML)

[jade raft]

do not get me started on daytime eol

[tough pecan]

Fighting infernum providence is a nice way to fry my laptop

[rain pond]

moonlord was easier in infernum than he was in revengeance

[dense temple]

You could fight her at daytime, she doesn't one-shot you in Infernum

Not recommended though

[rain pond]

I cannot

[tough pecan]

She js dealt twice the dmg

[rain pond]

I mean I dont see why I should im melee

[jade raft]

i had to for the terraprisma

it lowk got easy

[dense temple]

Daytime Empress of Light is a really well-designed fight

[jade raft]

yeah i liked it

[dense temple]

But it is extremely challenging

[tough pecan]

I like it too

But

I don't understand why

A boss so simple yet lags my device

[dense temple]

You have to know the fight by memory, and know what the next attack is gonna be, and position yourself for it

[jade raft]

Bro do not get me started on old duke it took me 96 tries

[rain pond]

infernum devs really poured their heart and souls on profaned guardians and empress of light

[jade raft]

dash slop

[dense temple]

Old Duke is... disappointing

I honestly prefer basecal Old Duke

Cuz at least you do more than just... dash

[rain pond]

profaned guardians are really easy hinestky

[jade raft]

my profaned guardians were glitched

[rain pond]

I saw a clip of them in tiktok once and I thought

[jade raft]

so i never fought them properly

[dense temple]

Most Infernum bosses can be drilled down to "this fight looks hard, but once you learn it it's very easy"

[rain pond]

"good god im never playing infernum"

[rain pond]

theyre easy to learn

[dense temple]

The only exception I'd say are Exo Mechs, that fight gets extremely chaotic at times

[jade raft]

its the fact you can predict everything

[dense temple]

Exactly, Infernum bosses are very pattern-based and strict, there's not much randomness and aggression

[rain pond]

the slime god spiked my cortisol too much

[tough pecan]

Infernum bosses js need experience

[tough pecan]

I hated infernum slime god

[jade raft]

i actually wonder if they are hard

[dense temple]

I don't actually really like that style too much - don't get me wrong, I love Infernum, but sometimes it gets a little slow for my liking

[rain pond]

pre hardmode is genuinely harder than hardmode

[jade raft]

or its just like ou remember

[tough pecan]

Ngl I wish calamity could just make infernum their own difficulty

[jade raft]

Bro skeletron was the first boss i realised i needed to lock in

[rain pond]

btw uh whats a berraft vessel

[dense temple]

Hence why on my current Calamity run I'm play Make Everything Really Fucking Fast Mode

[tough pecan]

Great sand shark with more mf

[rain pond]

it just came out in my checklist after I beat ml

and also why the fuck is THE primordial wyrm in my checklist

im not fighting that

[jade raft]

it was a good fight ngl

it was easy but like

interesting

[rain pond]

I dont bother fighting the great sand shark

[dense temple]

Better, you could call it Make All Lethargic Instances Completely Extreme Mode

Honestly if you think Infernum is hard, may I introduce you to Malice Mode

Now that's a difficulty mode that no matter how much practice you have with the bosses, you HAVE to be locked in

[frank mauve]

nah its fine

[dense temple]

Infernum you can kind of just fall asleep for once you know the fights
Can't afford that on Malice

[frank mauve]

only malice CV needs to be locked in

[jade raft]

cv?

[merry harness]

dog and polterghast aswell

[tough pecan]

I hate berreft vassal bro

[frank mauve]

dog was a joke

[tough pecan]

Tanky asf

[tough pecan]

It is

Not was

[merry harness]

nah malice dog is hard, lowd is just rlly good

[frank mauve]

theyre gonna buff malice dog right 🤑

[merry harness]

yea

[dense temple]

Lunatic Cultist

[tough pecan]

Is malice also an addon

[frank mauve]

no

[dense temple]

Nope, it's the new name for Death + For the Worthy

[tough pecan]

Oh

[dense temple]

No relation to the old Malice Mode

[frank mauve]

basically legdeath

[jade raft]

i remember this

[frank mauve]

just rename to make things more complicated

[jade raft]

i think i first bea calamity 4 years ago>?

[dense temple]

And it does something I've never seen a Terraria mod do before: makes Lunatic Cultist by far and away the hardest pre-Moon Lord boss and it's not even close

[dense temple]

As do I
I remember beating old Malice

[frank mauve]

golem would be the hardest if he dealt damage

[jade raft]

there used to be an item to change the difficulty

[dense temple]

I completely understand why old Malice got axed, but I still missed it
I had so much fun on it

[frank mauve]

✅

[merry harness]

daytime empress

[dense temple]

I couldn't get past 90% health my first 10 attempts on Golem until I went "wait, what if I lock in full tank and go melee" and then I got to 35% that next attempt and won shortly after taking 153 hits lmao

[merry harness]

i dont even know if anyone has beat malice daytime empress yet

ik someone no hit night time empress on malice

[dense temple]

It might legitimately be impossible, because of what FTW does to Empress of Light

[jade raft]

malice harder than infernum?

[dense temple]

Yes

Bosses aren't as predictable

Timing is a lot more strict

It's subtle but this is actually a vanilla thing: FTW makes EoL have almost NO cooldowns between attacks

Daytime makes it worse

So Malice daytime EoL has no cooldown from attacks, and the patterns are random in Calamity. So if she chooses a bad pattern, you're fucked, because the attacks overlap. And god help you in phase 3.

[frank mauve]

yup thats how it is with golem lmao

[jade raft]

a lot better

[dense temple]

If you dodge every single attack absolutely perfectly, you might be able to beat Malice EoL daytime

[frank mauve]

wait

[dense temple]

Golem is the only fight I'm 100% convinced is impossible to no-hit in Malice, though

[frank mauve]

imagine u used ursa

[tough pecan]

Why the hell does lunatic cultist malice mode deal so much damage

What