calamity-addon-talk

[inland epoch]

with what weapon

and do i change accessories

[elder nebula]

experiment and find out

[merry harness]

prob the bow u already have

[inland epoch]

its already homing

[merry harness]

rampart of deities

[merry harness]

r u sure

[inland epoch]

yes

riftburst

is homing

and its previous tier

so its not as good

as weapons for pre scal

[merry harness]

isnt it only like phantasm level homing

only the phantasm arrows home i thought

but u also fire the arrows that u use

[inland epoch]

without grape beer

[merry harness]

why is there 3 other nimkas in the call

[inland epoch]

doesnt matter

[merry harness]

also wtf why are the arrows homing

[inland epoch]

?

[merry harness]

i thought it was only phantasm arrows that home

[inland epoch]

ohh

vanquisher are homing

arrows

[merry harness]

try bloodflare arrows

[inland epoch]

thats not what they are called i think

[quick rose]

im post ml what should i change

[inland epoch]

bloodfire

[quick rose]

also is nebula just mid with scientific railgun

[inland epoch]

they arent homing tho

[merry harness]

Yea

[merry harness]

U can get statis

[merry harness]

Try with grape beer and see if higher dps

[inland epoch]

grape beer makes chicken cannon ass for phase1

[quick rose]

oh right

[fading dove]

wiz vortex ench instead and vortex helmet

[quick rose]

but vortex helmet is just worse

oh right theres stealth

[astral jewel]

wonder where does this source of projectile lags come from

[fallow gulch]

whats the name of scal infernum ost?

[merry harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UYL1ggFSmY

[fallow gulch]

thank

[maiden cobalt]

clamitas fires a LOT of projectiles so probably that

[astral jewel]

basically my 4060 i7 cant even handle slight projectile 😭

genuinely what the heck causes these projectile issues

[grim swallow]

ravager infernum blobs that are on ground can be walked through but jumping in them hits you

is that intended

[fallow gulch]

what why no infernum😡😡😡

[astral jewel]

because i had beaten it dozens of time

just trying out if theres something new in deathmode

[grim swallow]

ravagere done

third highest attempt vount so far

[gloomy apex]

Gonna assume something with whatever overhaul adjacent mod you're running?

Actually, whats your mod list

[astral jewel]

Already tried, still lags whenever a projectile is present

[astral jewel]

Its like 198 mods

12 of them is just calamity and its addons

[grim swallow]

I think that may be the reason for lag

[astral jewel]

Rest is just fully tested small mods

[astral jewel]

Same modpack dont lag on other but me

Thats another issue

[grim swallow]

does the pack has any calamity overhaul for example

[gloomy apex]

christ

[astral jewel]

Yes

Removing it dont fix it

[astral jewel]

Dw its pretty stable

Had 0 crash on this current playthrough

Which already last 130 hours in

Nor any conflict

Just this one specific lags that bother me

All i know is that other sometimes experience the projectile lags but not as severe as mine

[gloomy apex]

All I can think of is closing the world before every fight to clear all items off the ground

Works for me whenever I spend a while doing other stuff before a boss fight

[astral jewel]

Theres a feature called clear gore, dust, item, and npc in dragonlens just click the button and all cleared. Also doesn't fix it as the projectile technically spawned by the boss

[gloomy apex]

Yeah but I keep dragon lens disabled unless im about to do something I know im gonna need it to fix

Easier to record footage if I dont have to flash the godmode option being off before and after every fight

[astral jewel]

I kept them on because how much time i can save, for cheating one, i mean duh you can tell it by my hp not going down after getting hit

I use god mode for building because i mostly do some wacky experiment with some stuff

[gloomy apex]

Believe me theres been enough moments where I should've gotten hit by a projectile but didnt to warrant leaving it off until absolutely necessary

[astral jewel]

Yea, hitbox desync is a thing

@gloomy apex balance is out the window though in my modpack, still trying to figure out the correct setting

potions is no joke

[lilac herald]

So since catalyst makes uelibloom Draedon weapons available pre-ML, I wonder if I can shimmer those to get the uelibloom and then shimmer it down to luminite and make celestial armors pre-ML

[pine pewter]

Get fragments
Kill Dragonfolly
Kill Yharon
Get celestial armours preml

[lilac herald]

Wait

Is it possible to get dog summon pre-ml?

Imagine auric Tesla preML

Although not sure if it’s possible to get provi

[eager veldt]

yes

wait no

im tweaking

i dont think theres any way to get necroplasm

[dusty cairn]

solyn doesn't spawn for me

anyone know how to fix

[mortal rampart]

What stage are in

Pre hm or hm

[dusty cairn]

beaten everything already

is that whg

[mortal rampart]

She should spawn randomly in the map like a meteorite

By the time U enter hm

Maybe she's js spawned in an glitched out place or sm

[dusty cairn]

ah i see

dragon lens again ig

[marble crescent]

how do i get rid of this 😭

[eager veldt]

you used the world destroyer item

[marble crescent]

i didnt

i just tried to create gfb, forgot to turn off infernum and thats what i got

[eager veldt]

do you have wotg

[marble crescent]

i mean obviously bc this is a wotg thing

[eager veldt]

mod conflict or something idk

[marble crescent]

prob

[astral jewel]

i think i found the issue of the lag

seems like atmospheric torches mod is the issue

the issue seems to not the projectile itself but the light it produces

nvm the issue still there

but it does alleviate it a little

[granite mulch]

it is instantly after ml

also luminite is post ml anyway

[lilac herald]

Yeah ik that I’m just in a silly mood and want to try to do a bunch of stuff pre-ML

I could kill dragonfolly and Yharon and then shimmer auric to whatever I need

And since I have catalyst I could shimmer the Draedon weapons to give me uelibloom

[frank mauve]

but if u want the good auric crafts u need cosmilite

[lilac herald]

Yeah so just make dog summon pre ML

I think it’s possible

[frank mauve]

where would you get necroplasm from

[lilac herald]

I think some dungeon enemies have a really small drop chance for it, so artificial dungeon farm and several hours

Hmmm

Yeah it’s not exactly easy to get blood flare is it?

[grim swallow]

maybe you can somehow get provi summon pore ml rather than necroplasm?

[ruby oracle]

hey guys could you help me out please :)
is that good enough to fight moon lord or should i make some changes ?
and what enchantment or soul do you prefer to put in the last slot

melee class

[grim swallow]

mswap valor for MNG

are you playing dlc or do you do some dlc+infernum bs

[ruby oracle]

im playing on fargos mod

[grim swallow]

get gaia armor

do you know what fargo ml does?

[ruby oracle]

what is that

[ruby oracle]

nope

[grim swallow]

a fargo post cultist armor set

moonlord has a funny gimmick called forced class swaps

he will take 60% less damage from incorrect classes (80% on maso)

[ruby oracle]

daamn

[grim swallow]

and he will swap classes

gaia armor is great multiclass

[ruby oracle]

60

%

[ruby oracle]

what is this armor name

[grim swallow]

yyes 60% damage reduction

[ruby oracle]

mng what does it stand for

[ruby oracle]

thats crazy

[grim swallow]

also actually swap asgards valor for shinobi infiltrator enchantment

[nimble wing]

terraria does not at all enforce sticking to a single class

souls ml just affirms that

[grim swallow]

also id get lump of flesh here

and upgrade jelly

[ruby oracle]

i read about it
it seems really op

[grim swallow]

yeah its peak

[ruby oracle]

i tried mutiple times to go to the abyss to get mollusk husk and depth cells but i didnt find any

[grim swallow]

mollusk husk drops from giant clam

and have you killed anahita

[ruby oracle]

even the baroclaw

[grim swallow]

they unlock depth cells

[ruby oracle]

no it dosent spawn

i tried getting the lumenyl but it havent spawned yet

[grim swallow]

there is the natural anahita spawn I think

in the ocean a ??? enemy will rarely spawn

killing it summons anahita

[ruby oracle]

yeah i know but it dosent spawn for some reason

[grim swallow]

its quite rare

try starting a blood moon

[ruby oracle]

ok 1sc

it worked

i deafeted both

[chrome delta]

Leviathan deyector

From infernum

[edgy birch]

in multiplayer, does infernum not drop the expert bags for a player each?

it worked in calamity

[nimble wing]

never heard of that being a problem

[edgy birch]

we beat a desert scourge in infernum, didn't drop a bag

[gritty galleon]

wotg or no wotg

[edgy birch]

we do have wotg

[gritty galleon]

dont play wotg with multiplayer

never

never ever

[edgy birch]

oh

is that why the bags didnt drop?

[gritty galleon]

i dunno

[edgy birch]

im confusion

[gritty galleon]

🤔

[grim swallow]

well I am right pre moonlord

[gritty galleon]

this background is so cool

[edgy birch]

anyone else know why expert bags doesn't drop from bosses in infernum?

[frank mauve]

show your modlist

f8 twice in a world then screenshot

[gritty galleon]

calamity overhaul?

remove it

right

now

[nimble wing]

not necessarily

[edgy birch]

why

[nimble wing]

might as well try it though

[humble marlin]

i see a lot of mods that might do nothing

[frank mauve]

imagine its the inf patch

[gritty galleon]

not cuz it might be reason for bugs but cuz its just ass

[humble marlin]

like what does calamity sync fix do

[nimble wing]

infernum multiplayer patch hardly does anything iirc

what does worldgen infernum fix do

[frank mauve]

awg 🤔

[edgy birch]

is overhaul that bad?

lemme remove

[gritty galleon]

yes

[edgy birch]

hope it doesnt corrupt my existing world

[gritty galleon]

not sure

[frank mauve]

to make it work with advanced world generation mod apparently

[nimble wing]

i think it can if you put one of its crafting stations in a magic storage

that should be it tho

[edgy birch]

i dont think i did

[nimble wing]

i haven't used CO before but i sure don't think i'd like it

[edgy birch]

tbf i don't really know what it does besides adding a quest book

[nimble wing]

it adds reloading to all guns, which just makes them significantly worse
it reworks a random selection of weapons, often in ways that make them less interesting. CO phosphorescent gauntlet vomits a giant stream of projectiles
it turns skeletron prime into post-ml mechdusa with dog laser grids
it adds a stars above starfarer to halibut cannon???
in general it loves to copy things from other sources, including a crafting menu from minecraft's avaritia mod

[lean oak]

So can those exo mechs books be obtained via treasure bags?

or how rare are they

[frank mauve]

from wotg?

[lean oak]

yep

[frank mauve]

theres one book from the first kill

one from attacking draedon

one has a 1/33 chance to drop from each mech

[lean oak]

so can the first kill thing be obtained again?

[frank mauve]

oh not first kill its uhh final mech guaranteed i think

[lean oak]

the fight got bugged

first attempt try through i failed even through closing monologue appeared

[frank mauve]

called book of miracles

so if u defeat them again and get it ur fine

[lean oak]

and first succeful attempt

no book

so do i just keep fighting them until bom appears?

[frank mauve]

probably

[lean oak]

Its just fighting exo mechs many times in row is not that great

[frank mauve]

oh damn what class are you

[lean oak]

rogue

its mostly twins

that are annoying part

[frank mauve]

u can refight them with supernova then lol

[edgy birch]

btw calamity overhaul does indeed stop you from getting expert bags

[lean oak]

i do not have overhaul

[dense ocean]

Unsuprised.

[smoky dock]

does it actually

[smoky dock]

It fucking ruins submarine shocker 🥺

Subshocker was already gutted but it gets double gutted 🥺 🥺

[rugged raptor]

Wait subshocker got nerfed?

🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺

[gloomy mist]

calhaul massacres it afaik

[frank mauve]

in 2.1

[rugged raptor]

I mean i know calhaul does that

I meant 2.1

[gloomy mist]

they probably did

[rugged raptor]

[gloomy mist]

the thing dissolved the destroyer though
just like the dao of pow and hellborn

[rugged raptor]

Ig there is other options

Ill miss it tho

[gloomy mist]

the prior had absurd damage so it could shred worms
the latter had a gimmick that exploded enemies up close on shot

[smoky dock]

Yeah it's C tier now

Overhaul reworked it to about C tier in the first place

[rugged raptor]

Bummer

[lean oak]

was it futuristic treatise book that was from first kill?

also what is starlit forge?

[steep cobalt]

hi there john

[rugged raptor]

Hello

[steep cobalt]

i should advertise heavenly arsenal here

[lean oak]

i could get book via cheatsheet

[rugged raptor]

True

Best mod

[steep cobalt]

thank you for the insight, random patreon donor

[steep cobalt]

[lean oak]

what does starlit forge do?

[steep cobalt]

unlimited cinnamon rollyn

also acts as an universal crafting station

[lean oak]

Well universal crafting station is already pointless for me

[rugged raptor]

Unlimited rollyns tho

[lean oak]

cause i already have thing called crucible of cosmos

and also 30 unlimited buff from fargos or was it alchemist npc lite

[smoky dock]

disgoostin

[fading dove]

i genuinely do think that rollyns being able to get an infinite buff really sucks considering how absurdly broken they are

[fossil snow]

yeah they are really op

i got the unlimited buff from fargos in like 2 seconds because solyn gave me like 300 rolyns

[chrome delta]

You get like 500 of those

Not like it matters atp

The most broken potion is i-frame potion

The one that acts like cross necklace

[autumn cairn]

Haa man I hate duke.

[humble marlin]

why does your screen flash red when you get hit

[smoky dock]

mod

[maiden fjord]

hp awareness mod

[frank mauve]

how to make your experience worse 101:

[smoky dock]

I don't see the appeal

[maiden cobalt]

i mean it seems alright

not for no-hitters obv but like for an avg player

[smoky dock]

it's a little intrusive

personally if I get hit then I have my hitsound and the visual effect of damage, my HP falling, and colliding with something

I don't need much more

[steep cobalt]

i usually play muted

[smoky dock]

Although I may personally have it easier since I use the "Bar" HP style which is easier to see falling since it has less visual noise, and I have a more shrill hitsound than the vanilla "Oof!" sound

[steep cobalt]

[maiden cobalt]

getting hit and having a live cannon go off next to you

"oo-"
"THOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM"

[smoky dock]

it shouldn't be hard to make a mod that triggers an electrical shock

[frank mauve]

wait yharon p2 is so easy witout a ram dash

[gloomy apex]

My deathsound is bowling pins getting knocked over because it keeps me sane

My hitsound on vanilla is the Gmod meat whack sound.

You know the one.

[smoky dock]

OH

OH IV DRIP ON THE ROCKS IS AN ACCESSORY

I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS ANOTHER DRINK

[frank mauve]

its an accessory and alcohol

[inland epoch]

what do i change for calamitas

i get like 15k dps

and accessories are on menacing

thats so low, no?

[frank mauve]

correct

[oak iris]

wait what you can do that

teach me

[frank mauve]

@inland epoch

[inland epoch]

does statis have a ram or not

im really used to having a ram

like in phase 1

[frank mauve]

dont need a ram against scal, she doesnt have contact damage

sepulcher can be one shot with surge driver

right click to be specific

[inland epoch]

noooo not exos

[frank mauve]

you havent done them?

[inland epoch]

im ngl

[frank mauve]

alluvion and chicken cannon are still good

[inland epoch]

ive tried to kill exos in fucking revegeance

and understood that i hate them

maybe i overreacted

but i dont have a good world arena for them

[frank mauve]

personally if i had to choose weapons i would only use alluvion and aces high for both exos and scal

[inland epoch]

i cant dodge and aim at the same time and grape beer kinda makes chicken cannon trash

do i like

drink grape beer after i kill sepulcher

[frank mauve]

you can still use alluvion with grape beer for seppy

its still fast

[autumn jungle]

what class should i go for in infernum?
im using melee rn but i used it last playthrough
in terraria vanilla

i just beat wof

[frank mauve]

mage or ranger

[inland epoch]

can i not just use alluvion for scal

or is aces high just better

[frank mauve]

aces high is good for lifesteal

[inland epoch]

also am i supposed to get like 2 shot by this shit boss

it feels like im dodging so good then i just get hit twice and die

[frank mauve]

not really

[fading dove]

maybe if you werent running all menacing you'd survive a bit better

[inland epoch]

question is

will the 20 defense make me survive 1 more hit

or wtv it is

wait i didnt kill signus

i cant get statis void sash

[autumn jungle]

why? just curious for a reason

[frank mauve]

did you kill wyrm

[inland epoch]

no

im scared of him

should i be scared

[frank mauve]

ranger pretty good rn and mage is good in inf

no

hes a joke in inf lmao

if u beat him u can use halibut instead of alluvion

[inland epoch]

wait i need to kill signus first

im a bum

[autumn jungle]

i was thinking about summoner considering how much people glaze it

i just want some opinions

[smoky dock]

Yes

Very significantly

[smoky dock]

It’s very good

[frank mauve]

i just took 40 hits against scal with no problems so no she shouldnt 2 hit you

[smoky dock]

Ideally though you don’t adhere to a class at all and just use all the resources you have at your disposal

[inland epoch]

show build

[frank mauve]

unfortunately it doesnt account for chalice bleed DoT

[smoky dock]

Fearmonger
Chalce
Bluwum Stone
probably Bad Pact

Aaaand that’s it

[smoky dock]

no bluwuum stone????

[frank mauve]

oh i forgot to get invi on most stuff

[smoky dock]

whar

[frank mauve]

unfortunately im using a strat...

[smoky dock]

you could probably do more with Funny Accessory

[frank mauve]

which requires dark sun ring

[fallow gulch]

does wand of starburst from quality of terraria has any upgrades?

[frank mauve]

its called stratus sphere right click with sirius

[fallow gulch]

that can make block breaking easier

[smoky dock]

oooh

[maiden cobalt]

shieldmaxxing?

why not drop uhh

[frank mauve]

did u notice anything when i sent that ares clip yesterday

[maiden cobalt]

idk Radiance for SPog

[smoky dock]

no idea what the hell you’re talking about imve never heard of Rod of Starburst but I know spamming Skynamite is great

[smoky dock]

no

[frank mauve]

radiance got insane regen

[maiden cobalt]

or drop DSR for i think profaned artifact?? i think that gives slots

[frank mauve]

i was taking no defense damage

[maiden cobalt]

triple sheld ;)

[smoky dock]

ooh

[frank mauve]

1 slot vs 2 slot

[maiden cobalt]

mm

[frank mauve]

and sirius is better the more u have

[maiden cobalt]

is the gain from sirius rly that much to sacrifice 1 sheld

its a whole 15 damage shield man !!!!

[frank mauve]

and the shield from profaned thingy would never have time to recover fully

[maiden cobalt]

triple shield

[maiden cobalt]

would Spog help that

[smoky dock]

i think you only need 1 hitpoint on your shield to remove defense daminch

[maiden cobalt]

and/or Stratus

[frank mauve]

nop

[maiden cobalt]

Darn!

[fallow gulch]

?

[frank mauve]

no idea

"noo yharon dashes too fast"

[void patrol]

its okay, we see the cheat sheet

[frank mauve]

doesnt change anything

godmode isnt even on

[smoky dock]

having a cheat mod enabled does nothing if the cheats themselves aren’t enabled

[inland epoch]

so this is like

good

right?

grape beer
alluvion with wooden
aces high with god slayer slugs (if that changes anything)
warding accessories

[frank mauve]

you could fight wyrm for halibut aswell

id do invigorating though

[smoky dock]

invigorating beats warding that late into the game

[inland epoch]

oh really

[fallow gulch]

is there a mod that lets me break a fuck ton of blocks?

[frank mauve]

even armored beats warding unfortunately

[maiden cobalt]

the DCU does that

[maiden cobalt]

whut

is def damage really that bad that +0.5 dr is better

[frank mauve]

at that stage of the game the extra 0.5% dr is more valuable than 2 def

[smoky dock]

the segment of the game changes which reforge is preferred unfortunately

[inland epoch]

do i use dark sun ring while night or day

[frank mauve]

day

if ur not gonna use sirius u could drop dark sun for something else tbh

[inland epoch]

what does sirius do

i dont understand

[frank mauve]

its a summon weapon that generates starbursts when you hit enemies

and if you have stratus sphere shield then it charges it

[void patrol]

didnt see the hit at the end, mb

[frank mauve]

all good

[fallow gulch]

?

[inland epoch]

ore excavator

[frank mauve]

veinminer

[inland epoch]

isnt it the same

[frank mauve]

fargos mutant

[fallow gulch]

how is that gonna help me

[frank mauve]

yeah but veinminer easier to say

[inland epoch]

huh?

whitelist every block with like 4 clicks

and mine

i mean excavate

[fallow gulch]

i want to break this area in a quick pace

[frank mauve]

..........

[inland epoch]

okay what the fuck are you on about

[frank mauve]

yeah just use cheatsheet

or any cheat mod

[fallow gulch]

? exo mechs

[inland epoch]

city busters wont even help

[fallow gulch]

what do i do in there

question mark

guide me

[inland epoch]

"what mod helps me remove half of my world"

[frank mauve]

open paint tool, select air then paint it over your world

[fallow gulch]

i used that same arena on my melee playthrough for infernum exo mechs

[inland epoch]

im not saying that making arenas is bad

youre just asking a weird question question

theres no non cheat mod that removes half of your world

i assume at least

[fallow gulch]

thanks

[smoky dock]

that’s insane

that’s a massive area, and you need it for an arena??? is the surface not good enough???

[limpid wing]

anyone know why my screen freeze frames on the spawn animation of DOG? I can still move and hear and die but my screen itself is frozen, my UI and map still works tho, I am on infernum

[frank mauve]

do you have shape of light mod

[limpid wing]

no but I have VFX+

[inland epoch]

omg lowd

i got the new build and my next try was 1 phase deeper

[fallow gulch]

exactly

its not good enough

[inland epoch]

like my pb was ~phase 2 enter

now im on 3

[smoky dock]

????????!?

[fallow gulch]

you know when im fighting appollo i have to drop down a lot

or whatever their name is

the exo twins

i have to drop down a lot

[smoky dock]

do you have to or do you not know another way

[fallow gulch]

most likely i have to do that

ive seen others do it the same way

[inland epoch]

yay

[frank mauve]

wait what weapon are u using

[inland epoch]

previous was like 65% i think

aces high

like you said

[frank mauve]

oh that only?

[inland epoch]

and

the

alluvion

[frank mauve]

its meant for switching to it when u need the lifesteal

[inland epoch]

i forgot about worm

oh

i always need that

its like fine

[smoky dock]

no you don’t have to

nohitters get instantly disqualified if they dip into the underground layer at all

[hollow elbow]

What? They do?

Why?

[smoky dock]

Because it’s way too easy to completely cheese exos by falling forever

[inland epoch]

i did that on yharon

[hollow elbow]

Oohh

[inland epoch]

im goated

[smoky dock]

Extremely large arenas are pretty typical for Exo Mechs so naturally they’ll extend downwards if they can

“Arena can’t be too deep down underground” isn’t really a very precise or clear rule since that’s subjective

But “Arena can’t dip into the underground layer” is easily enforcible

[fallow gulch]

but am i aiming for nohit?

no

[limpid wing]

i've tried disabling many mods also infernums overlay and boss intro but the screen still freezes while the fight is active and instantly resumes as I die to him

[frank mauve]

show your modlist, press f8 twice in game and ss

[smoky dock]

no, it’s just to show that there’s a better way to do it than spending ages nuking a quarter of your world

moo moo lib!!!

[limpid wing]

found the issue, circled here in Quality of Terraria config

[humble marlin]

thats something to take note of

[smoky dock]

what the hell

[quick rose]

what

[smoky dock]

Well good work for finding that

[frank mauve]

[coral mirage]

best summon to beat yharon in infernum mode?

[summer gust]

best melee weapon for astrum aureus ifnernum?

[smoky dock]

hellkite probably

[smoky dock]

mirrors of kalandra iirc

sirius maybe

[frank mauve]

sirius are very viable lol

can even do 1 engine with hyperius and rest sirius

[woven rune]

son 😭

Inferna Cutter mogs!!! 🗣️

[smoky dock]

i’m literally killing you to death

Like, murdering you brutally

[hollow elbow]

Thats pretty deranged

[smoky dock]

Inferna Cutter should be REMOVED FROM THE GAME because it’s BAD

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412104907550621708/1430713935186628648/6ooDk1f.gif

[wide yarrow]

what do I swap to fight calamitas clone on infernum

melee

[frank mauve]

fairy booms

[wise cairn]

purity + grape beer + the storm = insanity (on infernum)

[woven rune]

it is awesome and sexy and cool and destroys everything!!

especially since butcher's chainsaw is shit now 🤤

[hard bloom]

Guys

[quick rose]

ok bro godslayer dash is broken for some reason

[hard bloom]

Inferum dog as summoner

[quick rose]

i should report this

[hard bloom]

Yeah

[grim swallow]

On the bright side
I am pre ml in my no hit journey

On the dark side
That's where the bosses become absurd

And also I still have to well

Kill ml

[oak iris]

wait what does hyperius bullets do i forgot

havent played ranger at all

not touching it since people said its a boring ass class

[quick rose]

ok someone already reported it

[frank mauve]

yes

[frank mauve]

some complicated stuff

[hard bloom]

Iz hard

[frank mauve]

[smoky dock]

1.2x damage dealt by pretty much any weapon ever

(but only weapons of good classes)

[hard bloom]

The sword staff thing gives a ahitton of particles

[oak iris]

goddamn why i havent used that for every infernum playthrough (joke)

i only ever used crumbling flask

[frank mauve]

and it does so much damage

id say its worth it

[smoky dock]

just stick hyperius bullets into a black hawk or any of its upgrades and be done

[hard bloom]

Is it the one from Providence or the crafted one

[frank mauve]

virid vanguard is crafted

the one thats bugged atm is dazzling stabber

which yes is dropped by provi

[hard bloom]

It's bugged hard

[frank mauve]

theres a mod that fixes it if you wanna use it so much

[hard bloom]

Once. An anime is spotted it fries the frames

[hard bloom]

Wt is it

[frank mauve]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3680323138

[smoky dock]

Nono just use dazzling stabbers as is

[hard bloom]

It fries the frames

My current summons are 4 spots mystic dragons and 8 toritus staff thing

That shoots light lazers

With lunar etaff

[smoky dock]

Yeah but that’s really really funny

[hard bloom]

When is the daziling staff gonna be fixed

[smoky dock]

Next update prolly

[hard bloom]

In 2029? Mista moddod

[fallow gulch]

what can i swap here for draedons heart

[fallow gulch]

apparently it was just my skill issue and i did NOT need that big of an arena

[smoky dock]

community

[fallow gulch]

alright thanks

[smoky dock]

or sigil of clammytas

[frank mauve]

or dont use it

[grim swallow]

Seraph treads 😡 (swap them to rebirth wings)

[granite mulch]

why do you have 2 wings

[grim swallow]

Wait ahat I didn't even see that

Oh aait didn't they make the wings from tracers toggleable?

[smoky dock]

Yesp

You can choose between either crappy wings or -1 accessory slot

[grim swallow]

Cool

[quick rose]

yharon setup

should i use arc flash ring

[merry harness]

No way 1.15x damage is worth it over Fargos stuff

[lofty jolt]

bro im strugglin on infernum plantera are these the best accessories i can be using rn (menacing and armored)

[merry harness]

Is that a fucking magi slot

[frank mauve]

its needed

[frank mauve]

go full warding

[lofty jolt]

yessir

[lofty jolt]

aight

[frank mauve]

could consider fairy boots over tread and radiant ooze over charms

[lofty jolt]

alr

[smoky dock]

ditto lowd’s suggestions

[frank mauve]

no kb immunity can be rough though

[smoky dock]

oh yeah

ankh shield, go

[cobalt apex]

is this good for exo mechs

i keep dying to ares when hes at 50% and i do thanatos and artemis first

[smoky dock]

i’d suggest picking ares second

[cobalt apex]

tried that he eviscerates me

[smoky dock]

don’t get caught in the overload beam

[cobalt apex]

yeah i try not to

[smoky dock]

are you staying far away during it

[cobalt apex]

close ish

[frank mauve]

get radiance 🤑

[cobalt apex]

what do i get rid of

[frank mauve]

or bloom stone

[frank mauve]

AFR or sponge

[smoky dock]

okay good because the exo overload beam is like, impossible to avoid if you’re far away

[cobalt apex]

oh also im on full menacing

[woven rune]

switch to warding

[lofty jolt]

lowd i have finally beaten plantera thanks to you

[woven rune]

and start with twins and ares

easiest combo by far

[frank mauve]

[lofty jolt]

15th attempt

[smoky dock]

go invigorating

menacing isn’t really gonna do anything at this stage

[woven rune]

inmidorating

warding highkey mogs

[frank mauve]

even armored mog warding at that stage sorry

[smoky dock]

but if your exos fight lasts 3:00 then invigorating gives you potentially 630 extra HP to get hit with and lose

[frank mauve]

ive also compared them against malice exos

[woven rune]

hell nah armored gets cucked by DR getting gutted

[frank mauve]

yeah armored is just better with higher dmg

[smoky dock]

warding also gets cucked by DR getting gutted

[woven rune]

never actually gives 1.5% dr especially with sponge

[frank mauve]

its not as bad as u think it is

[woven rune]

true but +4 * 7

[smoky dock]

it’s a difference of 7 defense compared to armored

[frank mauve]

yeah but whats 20 def doing when stuff hits for 300

[smoky dock]

Like, I’m a huge defense fan but regeneration is the most valuable defensive stat in general

[cobalt apex]

what does invigorating do

[frank mauve]

oh mb i mean 400+ dmg stuff

[woven rune]

.5 hp/sec

[cobalt apex]

is it like 4% more regen

oh

[smoky dock]

1 regen each

[woven rune]

• 7 so 3.5 hp/sec life regen boost with full invigorating

[smoky dock]

so a full suite gives you 7 regen for 3.5 HP/s

pretty gud

really any defensive reforge will be an improvement over menacing

[cobalt apex]

goblin tinkerer is genuinely swimming in riches

[woven rune]

damage boosts generally get less effective the more you have of them

[smoky dock]

mm hm

[cobalt apex]

right

diminishing returns n stuff

i see

[frank mauve]

bandit 🤑

[humble marlin]

five. hundred. defense

[woven rune]

Lucky is probably a little different

Looks cooler at least and Eye of the Golem is awesome

[frank mauve]

lucky has a limit compared to menacing

which is 100%

[cobalt apex]

lowk im gonna stick with thanatos first then artemis

bc i can no hit it

until ares pulls up

[smoky dock]

plus once you use the #1 best offensive accessory, you have to use the #2 best offensive accessory next, which is worse

[cobalt apex]

bc dragon rage just eviscerates thanatos

[smoky dock]

that’s fine

[woven rune]

which lets you spec into warding and shit

if you hit the limit**

[smoky dock]

No, Lucky still suffers from the same diminishing returns effect

[woven rune]

Dragon Rage eviscerates everything actually lol

Its really funny

[cobalt apex]

yeah but especially worm bosses

[woven rune]

you can solo all 3 of them with it

[frank mauve]

dragon rage doesnt discriminate it just kills

[woven rune]

or all 4 ig

[humble marlin]

lowk find it funny that ppl complain of DoG and not thanatos which is basically js sped up DoG

[cobalt apex]

if i was good enough at the game

[smoky dock]

In a vacuum 1% crit chance and 1% damage% will boost your total offensive power by about the same amount

[frank mauve]

have u ever seen thanatos live more than 10 seconds

[cobalt apex]

this is like my 2nd ever infernum playthrough and the first time i had those busted alchemist npc lite potions

without realising they were complete cheese

[humble marlin]

ykw fair enough

[smoky dock]

good that they’re gone

[woven rune]

yeah I've heard that b4 so probably fair

[cobalt apex]

genuinely had constant iframes for every fight

so unfair

[frank mauve]

like thana dsp is much harder than dog but dog also gets to live x10 more

[woven rune]

^

DoG is also just infinitely more punishing

[cobalt apex]

once u learn the basics on looping dog he feels like a pushover

[woven rune]

You have batshit crazy defensive stuff at exo tier

At DoG tier you have like

[smoky dock]

mm hm

[frank mauve]

post dog accessories are so stupid

[woven rune]

Amalg brain and Sealocket

[cobalt apex]

yeah

[smoky dock]

omega blue armor and like… amalgamated brain

[woven rune]

yep

[frank mauve]

omega blue is the tank set

[woven rune]

You have way worse survivability and DoG is an actual fight

[frank mauve]

will doze really buff omega blue next update 🤔

[woven rune]

Thanatos just instantly explodes all the time because there are a million + 1 weapons that instakill it

[woven rune]

its getting buffed?????

😭

[smoky dock]

it got buffed

[frank mauve]

no im talking about the next update

[cobalt apex]

guys is grape beer ranger fun i watched a yardis vid on it

[smoky dock]

it’s going to be buffed again, I forsee it

[frank mauve]

he said something about buffing the set bonus

[woven rune]

yes

[smoky dock]

disgusting drink

[woven rune]

doing a playthrough of it rn and im pre exos its so funny

[smoky dock]

kill it

[woven rune]

its so stupid strong

[smoky dock]

awful

it’s terrible

trash it

[humble marlin]

dw prikki grape beer will make the player homing if they are using a true melee weapon

[smoky dock]

:D

I hope it has old Warbanner scaling

Maybe then people will use it right

[wise thicket]

fun but the downside is extremely crippling

[frank mauve]

how does a player home

[woven rune]

can we fix warbanner please

why does it lower my damage even at max effectiveness

what the hell

[cobalt apex]

just do some like

dungeon guardian shit

[frank mauve]

warbanner so weird fr

[smoky dock]

Warbanner can be fixed by undoing the change

[woven rune]

lowd knows what im talking about so im not crazy

[smoky dock]

And reintroducing the dust spam

we like the dust spam

[woven rune]

I miss old warbanner bro

[frank mauve]

oh wait thats just called the pointer + glorious end !

[woven rune]

40% melee damage, true melee damage, and 20% melee speed or whatever it was

so fucking funny

[humble marlin]

500 more dust mage weapons 😻

[smoky dock]

old warbanner was so funny because it wasn’t an autoinclude even for true melee

[frank mauve]

yeah 40% dmg and 20% speed for tmelee

[smoky dock]

old warbanner took how aggressive true melee has to be and said “okay now be more aggressive”

[woven rune]

actually ridiculous

forbidden double warbanner strat

those who know 💀

[frank mauve]

not enough aggressiveness

[frank mauve]

ngl i wish i got to use that more

[woven rune]

fr

only found out about it a bit before it was fixed 💔

[frank mauve]

forgot what other accessories worked good with it aswell

[smoky dock]

ugc

[woven rune]

Most accessories didn't work well with it honestly

Draedon's Heart was insanely funny though

+96 defense or whatever

[smoky dock]

do you know how the scaling worked

[woven rune]

wdym

like old warbanner in general or when you had two

[smoky dock]

in general

Like, do you know the ranges at which it gave you maximum and minimum benefit

[woven rune]

Not the exact values but I remember how unbelievably harsh it was yeah

Like if you wanted max benefit you basically had to sit directly on top of the target it was nuts

[smoky dock]

it was so funny

[smoky dock]

no you’re 100% correct

your hitbox has to be making contact with their hitbox for maximum benefit

[woven rune]

😭

[smoky dock]

and minimum benefit was at coincidentally about the range of the wulfrum amplifier’s circle

[woven rune]

I miss it though

Rather have it do basically nothing for me unless I'm permanently divebombing the boss than gut my damage by .85x and do literally nothing when I'm up close

[smoky dock]

same tbh

[woven rune]

Idk how much you've played with new Warbanner but it genuinely makes your DPS worse even when you're at optimal range

[smoky dock]

but i never used new warbanner for long

[woven rune]

Lowd knows what I'm talking about

[smoky dock]

I did see lowd do some true melee testing and got slower killtimes with warbanner than without it

[woven rune]

I don't know how to explain it but I swear your killtimes with it will be either the exact same or slightly worse even if its always active

[frank mauve]

yeah no i tried it against provi, dog, yharon and it was unbelievable

[woven rune]

it sounds so stupid but its true

[frank mauve]

legit perfect 15% boost uptime

[woven rune]

-> slower killtime

like ???

it has to be something with warbanner's kill aura thing cause it makes no sense

[frank mauve]

id say its still good for people new to tmelee cuz the aura can chip dmg for them

so they wont have to worry about getting the most optimal stuff

[woven rune]

Well most true melee weapons have enough range where that probably isn't an issue right

Like Stellar Striker and Holy Collider are pretty braindead so you'd prob be better off with some generic tank accessory even as an inexperienced true melee fiend

[frank mauve]

yeah thats true

[woven rune]

maybe not for long I guess since Holy Collider's right click is being removed 🤬

Stellar Striker will forever be old reliable I suppose

or Lightspeed if it got buffed and wasn't completely mogged by Stellar Striker in literally every way

[frank mauve]

was gonna mention lightspeed but i havent been using it as much when gilded is right there

but its downgrade lucrecia was really fun to use

[woven rune]

Lucrecia is awesome

Lightspeed on the other hand idk

Its cool and pretty fun to use but its hard to justify using it when Stellar Striker has better AoE, significantly better damage, and doesn't require me to do the dash gimmick for it to hit hard

[frank mauve]

oh wait i forgot it had a dash

i thought it was like lucrecia but tmelee

[woven rune]

Its basically just Starlight + Exoblade-esque dash when you build up enough charge

Shit DPS for a true melee weapon with just the Starlight part and even when you spam the dash it has less DPS than Stellar Striker 💔

Please God buff or at the very least redesign Exoblade 🙏

[smoky dock]

please make exoblade true melee 🙏

maybe then exo mechs will have a good drop

[frank mauve]

eh it cant be that bad

like sure if we compare it to really good weapons its bad

but as long as it can get like 1:30 inf guards then its good

[knotty ginkgo]

is uhh shredder with daawnlight and grape bear good shit for prov

or am i missing out on that juicy speedkill

[frank mauve]

u could use planetary annihilation instead since its more consistent

[knotty ginkgo]

how much dps around

cause i do lioe

a fat load

my pc shits itself whenever i use it in the first phase but yeah

cause i also use phantasm with luminite

less dps than holy but still a fuck ton and doesnt lag that much

[woven rune]

Legitimately like a third of Stellar Striker's DPS

Test it for yourself

No dash only Starlight attack and compare that to Stellar Striker, Gilded Proboscis, and even true melee range Greatsword of Judgement lol

[frank mauve]

ok it obviously doesnt compare to gilded

[knotty ginkgo]

i turned on low graphics and reduced graphics, turned my game to awful lookin and i still get fps drops

[frank mauve]

gilded is the goat for guards and provi

[frank mauve]

not using the dash has to be crippling though

[knotty ginkgo]

legit sit at like 50fps during boss fight when i use shredder

i sit at 90 while using phantasm

[frank mauve]

with holy arrows grape beer and daawnlight its alot alot

[knotty ginkgo]

i use luminite for more fps

holy arrows lag

[knotty ginkgo]

i got like

18k with luminite

21k with holy

and 24k with shredder

but thats on like

3 targets

cause provi is fat

[woven rune]

True, but the dash is way riskier and less consistent than the other options

And even with that risk and (lack of) consistency it is still weaker

[knotty ginkgo]

lets say like 12k with shredder 10k with holy during boss fight

[woven rune]

Riskier because you can throw yourself into an attack obviously**

I believe you get iframes for the dash but you're vulnerable right after it

[frank mauve]

ok yk what

yeah its bad but i feel like my only complain is that the charge thing goes down too fast and the dash isnt controllable enough

honestly just make the dash controllable and the charge not go as fast

cuz i wanna keep it a bit for attacks

anyway i beat em in 2min but i was using 6 slots and a full preml loadout

[frank mauve]

u could still use shredder then tbh

planetary with wooden arrows and no grape beer is also hella consistent

[woven rune]

Heavy on the charge going down so fast

Feels like you have to use it immediately which makes it riskier

[frank mauve]

yeah like wdym 0.5sec later i cant use it

[knotty ginkgo]

we will see

depends on if it lags less

[woven rune]

Try with Stellar Striker

[knotty ginkgo]

honestly im lile

[frank mauve]

i was spamming right click and i wasnt seeing no dash

[woven rune]

or Greatsword of Judgement but only use it in true melee range

[woven rune]

yep

[knotty ginkgo]

mostly just dying to last phase nkw

[frank mauve]

ive already tried it and it was good

[woven rune]

this thing is so slept on its insane btw

its such a good weapon

so easy to use too

[knotty ginkgo]

how do i use static hook properly for provi last phase

[woven rune]

what was the killtime?

[frank mauve]

i think last time it was like 1:10

[frank mauve]

static hook only usable for cross phase

[knotty ginkgo]

thats what i mean

cause thats where i die at

[frank mauve]

u can dodge it normally without static hook

id recommend starting top left completely

[knotty ginkgo]

the rest of last phase is just the previous phase but like 1 diff attack

[knotty ginkgo]

ik

[frank mauve]

like on the corner of the wall

[maiden cobalt]

what abt grid phase

[frank mauve]

and fly right

[knotty ginkgo]

still fuck it ip always

[maiden cobalt]

isnt static good for grid

[frank mauve]

then for static strat

start top left

go down at around the middle and hook the left wall

[knotty ginkgo]

you gotta lower a bit and it pisses me off

[frank mauve]

start strafing left or right depending on the projectiles incoming

[knotty ginkgo]

aight

[frank mauve]

u can also go low in advance and just fly in a straight line

[knotty ginkgo]

if i get that then easy

[frank mauve]

bit harder but it works

[knotty ginkgo]

sub 30 attempts provi as a first timer

[woven rune]

damn thats solid actually

not surprised though

[knotty ginkgo]

is dog gonna be a lot harder than providence or nah?

[frank mauve]

depends

[knotty ginkgo]

first timee

[frank mauve]

yeah for first time usually its hard

[knotty ginkgo]

but ive watched so many infernum playthroughs i basicallly know his attacks

[frank mauve]

not necessarily hard i mean, just an attempt farmer

[knotty ginkgo]

ive heard that scal is easily the hardest boss

on tier maybe nighttime providence might be as hard but like

scal feels like a lot of bullshit just thrown on your screen

[frank mauve]

scal is also like

very consistent

and tankable i guess

nighttime provi much less

[woven rune]

Nighttime Providence is infinitely more bullshit than SCal imo

[knotty ginkgo]

yeah its just like

youre two shot

three shot if you go tanky

[woven rune]

Does not feel very consistent at all for me

Like the grid fireball attack

[frank mauve]

this was me against scal

[woven rune]

Freaks the hell out if you ever do it more than once

[frank mauve]

literally didnt try dodging at all

just doing bullshit

[smoky dock]

fearmomger funny

[knotty ginkgo]

insane

[woven rune]

yo remember that time fearmonger got buffed

[frank mauve]

why would they do that

[smoky dock]

lmao, that’s right! Last week was great!

[knotty ginkgo]

i feel like im legit somehow getting good but then i see mfs no hit and i feel like trash

[smoky dock]

[smoky dock]

Don’t compare yourself to others and let yourself feel down for it

[woven rune]

nobody is good its all QoL trust

[frank mauve]

ur watching experienced player while you're on your first playthrough

[woven rune]

^ this too

[knotty ginkgo]

well

[smoky dock]

If you’re doing better than you were yesterday, that’s something to celebrate

[frank mauve]

i was the same on my first playthrough

[knotty ginkgo]

second but like i stopped at providence

[woven rune]

Infernum is more pattern recognition and using meta shit than "skill" stg

[frank mauve]

i was like how are they nohitting this in 40 attempts?!

[slim saddle]

Just beat the nameless deity and my game tanks gg

[woven rune]

intended

"you have passed the test" right?

[slim saddle]

Yeah

[knotty ginkgo]

i fear avatar of wrath will fry my pc completely

[slim saddle]

Stuck at this now

[knotty ginkgo]

bitrate crusher 3000

[frank mauve]

rup

rip

[woven rune]

damn

[slim saddle]

I gotta fight this mf all over again gg

[knotty ginkgo]

lwk you did it so like

[frank mauve]

just melt him

[knotty ginkgo]

who cares

meta

cheese his ass

[slim saddle]

Ngl found it easier than the avatar of emptiness

That took me forever to get

[knotty ginkgo]

avatar of emptiness feels like bullshit just watching people no hit him

[frank mauve]

aoe is bullshit go!

[knotty ginkgo]

how tf do you dodge that screen shatter attack

[slim saddle]

Not a clue

[knotty ginkgo]

with those balls you gotta remember

[plush pendant]

What's this structure? this a new calamity thing or is it added by hunt/entropy/catalyst

fair enough

ice house protected from being mined deep underground in ice biome

[knotty ginkgo]

wrath of the gods

[elder nebula]

wrath of the gods

[plush pendant]

ah ty

[knotty ginkgo]

solyn my wifey 🥹❤️‍🩹

[elder nebula]

catalyst doesn't add any structures

[knotty ginkgo]

it does

or wait

mb

i mixed it up with fables

[autumn jungle]

what melee weapon should i use pre golem?

i got the biome blade rn

[woven rune]

Inferna Cutter

Absolutely cooks him

Otherwise Butcher's Chainsaw if you find it easier to aim

[elder nebula]

hellkite

[frank mauve]

^