calamity-addon-talk

[solar dragon]

does void sash negate damage mid dash like aegis or does it just provide the dash

[frank mauve]

only dash

scal doesnt have contact damage so its fine

[solar dragon]

ohhh okay

i thought she did

[frank mauve]

not in inf at least

in basecal she has contact dmg during dashes

[hasty surge]

that's alright

[solar dragon]

good to know thank you

[woven rune]

orderbringer instead

homing and better dps

[frank mauve]

yo donny guess how fast i killed dog that time

[woven rune]

with the old duke staff?

[frank mauve]

yeah

[woven rune]

you get sub 30?

[frank mauve]

sadly not but i got 31 without the big hit

[woven rune]

how 😭

[frank mauve]

portal skip and killed him before the last portal

[woven rune]

hype

unrelated but i found another melee weapon thats actually good with Purity i think

I am using Arc Flash Ring so thats a part of it but both Holy Collider and Empyrean Knives seem a bit better

[frank mauve]

arent empyrean knives broken now aswell

[woven rune]

getting like 17k dps with full homing and a warding build with purity

and the healing is fucking nuts

so yeah

[solar dragon]

i cant see a thing 💔

[woven rune]

LMAO real

maybe Nadir then idk the projectiles are dark

[woven rune]

ok so my damage is being multiplied by 1.96x with empyrean knives

nice

melee damage no speed my beloved

[spiral jewel]

Fucking hate infernum skeletron

[gloomy apex]

414 deaths on my infernum run

Juet went back to check the total count

[spiral jewel]

Just my infernum dog attempts is 3/4 of that

[sour cipher]

are the wrath of the machines exo mechs harder or easier than vanilla calamity exos?

[spiral jewel]

Is this a joke?

Harder

Mechanically harder

Cause those arent static pngs

[sour cipher]

?? idk i havent played the mod

[wise cairn]

difficulty for exos is basecal<WotM<infernum

[sour cipher]

kk thanks

[orchid pagoda]

@frank mauve hi! srry for the ping, do u think i should put arc flash ring somewhere?

for exo mechs*

[spiral jewel]

Havent done the infernum mechs but arentte WotM mechs harder?

[frank mauve]

u can see if its better than glove

[wise cairn]

this is my personal opinion since i've played a lot of calamity but some people find WotM harder than infernum and vice versa

[frank mauve]

also i would lowk run radiance over sponge and run full invigorating

[frank mauve]

crazy how theyre only pre polter

[wise cairn]

"run full invigorating"

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-15699071694512129415

is there a real benefit to invigorating?

[frank mauve]

invigorating with chalice>>>

[wise cairn]

you know..

[woven rune]

its genuinely absurd

it feels so unbalanced

[frank mauve]

yeah its probably already nerfed by now

[woven rune]

lifesteal cooldown doesnt even exist for it too stg

[frank mauve]

i remember doze seeing it

[woven rune]

next update is gonna blow ass

cant wait for Holy Collider to lose its right click 😁

[frank mauve]

2.1.3 changelogs: we nerfed 2000 items!

[woven rune]

nerfing is one thing but straight up removing functionality of weapons?

[wise cairn]

can't wait for every new cool thing in 2.1 to get nerfed to the ground

[woven rune]

idec the reasoning thats still heartbreaking

[wise cairn]

holy collider has a right click?

[woven rune]

yes its awesome

[wise cairn]

isn't holy collider the melee

[woven rune]

big yellow providence sword

[wise cairn]

i see

if they're gonna remove the right click give the left click autoswing

[frank mauve]

more reasons to use gilded 😿

[wise cairn]

same with the hellkite

[frank mauve]

lets see how 2.1.3 will be

new metas probably again

[orchid pagoda]

aight, i'll try to fight them that way

[wise cairn]

2.1.3's the next major update right?

or is it just a patch

[frank mauve]

no just a patch

[woven rune]

sponge 😭 ✌️

dont know if i will ever run that shit again

[frank mauve]

thankfully i didnt use sponge pre 2.1

i was already evolved

[woven rune]

I adjusted just fine but damn

Will never fall for the sponge is still good propaganda

Chalice/Amalgam mog so hard 🗣️

[frank mauve]

amalgam nerf

🤑

[wise cairn]

i still like the sponge

it's pretty useable

but like

only for yharon

[woven rune]

again??

[wise cairn]

it gets replaced post yharon

[frank mauve]

the debuffs it inflict will be weaker

[woven rune]

fuck off 😭

yk what bro ill just run DSA

[frank mauve]

im running flesh totem for yharon ✌️

[woven rune]

not even a bad choice

wouldnt sealocket be better tho since you also get damage

[frank mauve]

sealocket is better cuz it works for projectiles aswell

the 90 sec cd irks me though

[woven rune]

true

90 seconds is wild

[maiden fjord]

(infernum magic guns only)
okay 2 bosses left so I can complete my first half hardmode trophy display

I've done all mechs. only brimstone elemental and calamitas shadow remaining

-# I'm using flesh block btw

[frank mauve]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[woven rune]

lowd bro

devils devastation and hyperius is so fucking funny

poor yharon

[floral epoch]

hyperius?

[elder nebula]

bullets

[frank mauve]

damn how many times did u use it against yharon 😭

use it against exos instead

[spiral jewel]

Would it be crazy to try an actual overhaul run?

Fuck it imma try it

[shut basin]

solyns suitable housing is so confusing why did she only set up a fucking telescope the tent isnt even here 😭

gonna try again i guess

k there we go

[woven rune]

got there in my run and did it like 3 times

its so funny

[woven rune]

just ares or ares and twins

[frank mauve]

both

[leaden vector]

anyone know some good accessories for ranger pre hard mode?

[woven rune]

will do when i fight them

[elder nebula]

scion's curio and protolith bangle

[leaden vector]

what reforge do i get for ranger btw

for dmg

[elder nebula]

lucky i guess

[smoky dock]

warding

[frank mauve]

hard

[fluid flax]

arcane

[smoky dock]

armored

[woven rune]

hard for pre-hm, warding for hardmode, warding/invigorating post dog

👍

[orchid pagoda]

aight, i killed exo mechs, what should i remove for draedons heart?

[woven rune]

nothing because draedons heart is ass cheeks now

[orchid pagoda]

fr?

[woven rune]

lost like 30 defense and the heal is half as effective

maybe arc flash ring depending on the weapon you're using idk

[orchid pagoda]

im using celestus now

[woven rune]

if thats rogue have you tried Seraphim and Purity

I have to imagine that goes crazy

[floral epoch]

supernova

[woven rune]

especially with arc flash

[woven rune]

prob want a stealth build for this

cause stealth Supernova is awesome

[floral epoch]

yes

[orchid pagoda]

yea i killed exo mechs w it

[woven rune]

valid

idk which one you killed but Atom Splitter is absolutely bonkers iirc

maybe it got nerfed in 2.1 but it used to be crazy so you could use that too

[orchid pagoda]

yea i have it too

[frank mauve]

atom splitter used to be better for single target than supernova lol

idk how it is now

[woven rune]

oh damn

yeah I'll have to redo rogue to test it out but that isnt surprising

[orchid pagoda]

what should i use then😔

[frank mauve]

seraphim is still good for scal

[woven rune]

Stealth is pretty damn strong at that stage so stealth Supernova for homing is braindead

[frank mauve]

its usually my go to spam weapon for scal

[woven rune]

Atom Splitter might still be absolutely busted

Seraphims good for spam

[frank mauve]

theres also the inf spam mage weapon

[woven rune]

the forbidden one

[frank mauve]

its totally rogue, trust

[woven rune]

wasnt even thinking about it LOL

genuinely does not cross my mind

but yes Dreamtastic is a "rogue" weapon you can make

[frank mauve]

i feel like it goes unnoticed too much

[woven rune]

its actually really strong

full homing braindead weapon with very good dps

I just refuse to use it personally so I forget it exists

[frank mauve]

i havent tried rogue much after yharon

but that dog disk weapon my fav

dimension tearing disk

its so good

[woven rune]

I did one rogue run when playtesting the brainstorm beta and nothing since

I really should redo it because I dont even remember how I felt about that weapon 😭

[frank mauve]

i liked it with spam tbh

[woven rune]

I should just rush Purity and try to get a crazy spam build

[woven rune]

I remember the fuckin Providence scythe though

holy shit that thing was so fun

using the stealth meter to supercharge your weapon speed for a little bit is such a cool gimmick

[frank mauve]

was it removed or something

[woven rune]

nah I just havent played rogue since

[frank mauve]

oh ic

i heard partisan was retiered and now its broken for provi lol

[woven rune]

I'd have to try it myself

Only classes I've done with Infernum since 2.1 are melee ranger and mage

[frank mauve]

what happens if u run 3 mult dmg accessories together 👀

[woven rune]

try it

[orchid pagoda]

is gem tech armor worth using?

[frank mauve]

not really

[orchid pagoda]

aight, ty

[frank mauve]

yeah its not as crazy as i thought itd be tbh

maybe its good with rogue stealth against dog hold up

[native heath]

hey i play calamity infernum with wrath of the gods

someone knows some mod to add with them?

like more bosses idk

[woven rune]

uhhh

[elder nebula]

those mods already add 30 bosses on top of vanilla how many do you need 😭

[woven rune]

isnt there some modpack

infernal wrath something

adds more

[dense ocean]

Divide by ten.

[native heath]

i will see ty

[frank mauve]

infernal eclipse of ragnarok

[native heath]

i think i rushed a bit

[orchid pagoda]

why tf does calamitas deal so much damage

[dense ocean]

She's the final boss.

[woven rune]

this yeah

[orchid pagoda]

well okay reasonable

[shut tendon]

whats the concensus on infernal eclipse of ragnarok? ive played infernum, fargos etc many times, is it in a working state? whats multiplayer like?

[frank mauve]

i shouldve used warbanner with vitriolic viper against dog

lowk slept on that accessory

[floral epoch]

i thought it only good for true melee?

[woven rune]

I swear my killtimes are worse with it

Like even against DoG idk

[frank mauve]

ur close to dog head most of the time

[frank mauve]

well with slow/charging weapons u have the option to shoot when the boost is at 15%

[woven rune]

Not even that like even true melee

I dont know if the sparks from the warbanner itself have some Iframe shit going on or if its just making me lag ever so slightly but I swear its just slower

Ill try it rn

[frank mauve]

maybe, cuz i havent used it as much with other stuff

and it also messes with hyperius which kinda sucks

[woven rune]

Ill do two coil kills with "optimal" melee gear and see what the times are gimme a sec

[frank mauve]

i just wasted a potential 0:30 dog attempt

[woven rune]

57 seconds with this

[frank mauve]

well its fine i wasnt recording

[woven rune]

Sealocket is probably least valuable here for damage so I'll swap that for warbanner

[frank mauve]

holy collider still?

[woven rune]

nah Death's Ascension for consistency

Fought him the exact same way and it was 59 seconds stg

probably because my dogshit pc does this whenever I use warbanner against a worm 😭 ✌️

[frank mauve]

im trying warbanner on melee

[woven rune]

Got 57 seconds on a fight with no slowdown

Not using rippers or attacking him during portal phase for consistency and its about the same even when coiling

[frank mauve]

yeah no i feel like its better with those charging weapon

cuz u can just wait for optimal boost then rip it

[woven rune]

maybe

I haven't used warbanner too much with other classes tbh

I'll try it with a few true melee weapons and see if they do any better

[frank mauve]

got 1:01 with dest emblem and 1:00 with warbanner

its such a weird accessory

[woven rune]

53 seconds with Stellar Striker

...but phase 2 animation glitched and I used rage 😭

[frank mauve]

yeah maybe gilded isnt meant to be used against dog

[woven rune]

holy shit warbanner is so funny with visuals on

[frank mauve]

try both warbanner and AFR visual on

[woven rune]

Im doing that right now 💀

Genuinely cant see shit

[frank mauve]

u needa try mana burn aswell with it

wait lemme try ts with virid vanguard lmao

[woven rune]

oh boy

ok i got obs to stop tweakinng nice

[frank mauve]

oh my pc

[spiral jewel]

Okey, so far, no crashes playing overhaul

[woven rune]

i can get visual cancer dogshit on film!

[woven rune]

yep

[spiral jewel]

I am also playing infernum

I will document every crash to have a comprehensive list ofthings overhaul actually breaks

[woven rune]

devourer of bitrate this is awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVsmJDFBlh8

[frank mauve]

75% slowdown yeah we good

[spiral jewel]

Devourer of frames

[woven rune]

low quality adds to the lack of visual clarity i feel

[frank mauve]

20% portals gotta be worst phase oat

ruins so many speedkills

[woven rune]

its so god damn annoying

i also hate hate hate capital h Hate how he just spawns them right in front of you sometimes because fuck you

[frank mauve]

this mana burn

[woven rune]

that looks sick

[frank mauve]

volterion lowk shreds

MIGHT be better than viper

[woven rune]

whats the killtime looking like

no shot

[frank mauve]

1min without rage and trolling loadout

(its a summoner loadout and i only got chaos stone)

[woven rune]

so whats the strat just coil?

tf

[frank mauve]

yeah with warbanner and AFR

[woven rune]

purity good or shit with volterion

[frank mauve]

i doubt it even scales with speed but it was pretty mid

[woven rune]

fair

its mid bruh

[frank mauve]

hold up i might have to try it fr

did u not see the insane dmg

[woven rune]

nvm

57 seconds when i did it so on par with deaths ascension i guess

loadout could prob be better though

[floral epoch]

mage accessory on melee loadout?

[woven rune]

not a melee loadout

[floral epoch]

random?

[woven rune]

mage

its alright for damage i guess

[floral epoch]

huh

[woven rune]

what i should do actually is use death's ascension left click on top of this

[frank mauve]

what you should do is try rogue stealth with warbanner

[woven rune]

this was a fantastic idea

nice

[woven rune]

does warbanner damage scale off stealth?

[frank mauve]

if ur talking about the warbanner damage thingy no, but the mult work

like earlier i was at 240% dmg then with warbanner it went to like 370%

[woven rune]

wow

[leaden vector]

anyone have any tips on infernum wall of flesh

the laser attacks are messing with me

[frank mauve]

do note that the 240% is the reduced dmg

[woven rune]

okay this is actually better than just death's ascension

melee meta is getting the portal down from death's ascension then using stellar striker it seems

[frank mauve]

how does death ascencion portal even work

is it timed

[woven rune]

Naturally shoots out scythes on its own but shoots extra when you right click with it

[frank mauve]

no i know about that but when it spawns, does it have a timer before it despawns

cuz if u can just leave it there and switch weapons that seems a bit too funny

[woven rune]

yes

but its pretty long

I only put down 3 portals during the entire fight

Phase 1, phase 2, then phase 3

[frank mauve]

totally balanced

2.1.3: reduced Death ascencion damage by 500

[woven rune]

dude its actually dogshit now

like genuinely outtside of the one specific scenario where the portal sits directly on an enemy (DoG) its so bad

try using just the right click against smth like Old Duke its so slow 😭

[frank mauve]

i havent used the right click much lately tbh

[woven rune]

are you able to turn off purity's visual effects

its actually so laggy lmao

[gloomy apex]

OUGH thats so weird

Did infernum skeletron today on the new run and made it to 20% no problem

[frank mauve]

ngl warbanner acc seems good with rogue wth

[woven rune]

I wonder if Old Fashioned might be good here

Like with Omega Blue, AFR, and Warbanner

[gloomy apex]

Like this is all ingrained in me now its weird

[frank mauve]

i thought about it tbh

[woven rune]

its not

its significantly worse

[magic pelican]

I've expanded a smidge

[woven rune]

like drastically worse holy shit

[frank mauve]

ok so no weapon

it did 5% the first coil

[frank mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/simon-simon-the-digger-gurren-lagann-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-gif-17450264298684038754

[gloomy apex]

Its peak

[native heath]

hey i wanna start a summoner map and i was seeing a video from 2024 saying that calamity hasnt added much whips

is recommended some whip mod or calamity have new good whips?

[floral epoch]

cool

[magic pelican]

theres not many whips no

but a external mod isn't recommended

[near wedge]

you should be fine anyways

[magic pelican]

@hearty orbit what do we think so far

[frank mauve]

the drill that creates the heavens

fuck i mean pierce

whatever

[magic pelican]

Creates lmfao

time for bro to rewatch it again

[frank mauve]

its been so long fr

but i dont wanna rewatch that ep 😿

[magic pelican]

are flash rounds still really good

[magic pelican]

no one does

[frank mauve]

theyre alright

tungsten still goated

[magic pelican]

its like having to watch Akame Ga Kill, you have to get through the whole thing

[frank mauve]

akame ga kill was dark

orr i could just watch or rewatch something wholesome instead

😊

[near wedge]

Takopi original sin is wholesome

[frank mauve]

oh totally

[merry harness]

[near wedge]

Slice of life

[frank mauve]

its so wholesome ill watch it with my family

[near wedge]

Thats actually what i did

[glossy glacier]

Catalyst

It's a good addon to calamity

[magic pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-surprised-shocked-gif-14940640833910619525

[near wedge]

[magic pelican]

Bro watched Euphoria with his parents too

maybe even bible bl;ack

black

[near wedge]

anahita spawned 3 times before a fucking shark did

everytime i need something to happen the opposite thing happens in this game

[magic pelican]

Theres an item for anahita to not spawn isn't there

[tight fog]

it does have a really heartwarming ending

[near wedge]

Kinda

the abuse is still happening though

[frank mauve]

in infernum yes

[glossy glacier]

It's siren earmuffs or smth

[frank mauve]

thats the toggle item

leviathan detector is the inf spawner

[glossy glacier]

Ah

[magic pelican]

Someone tell me why the bag of silver coins doesn't work with the wulfrum blunder

[frank mauve]

is the bag of silver coin from a mod

like mutant or luiafk

[magic pelican]

yes

[tight fog]

i think it's more important to know that marina and shizuka aren't in a deadlock to the point of either of them spiraling, having each other to fall back on instead

[frank mauve]

i think those are made to work with the coin gun mainly

[magic pelican]

sigh

[near wedge]

Yeah

thats why i said kinda

its bittersweet

[magic pelican]

do we think QOL's works

[frank mauve]

do we think

[magic pelican]

compendium

no

no thoughts here

[near wedge]

Im actually reaching my breaking point with this game

deadass

[floral epoch]

why

let me guess

[near wedge]

do i have to struggle to find every fucking item ever

[glossy glacier]

Yep

[near wedge]

its a fucking pre cthlulu item

[magic pelican]

you're playing terraria what are you looking for rox calibur

[near wedge]

sharktooth necklace

and my game has crashed 3 times

[glossy glacier]

I either find this thing in like 2 minutes or I never find it

[near wedge]

[magic pelican]

Oh rip

[near wedge]

how i feel after making drop rates of an item 2%

[near wedge]

also is the sky supposed to be flashing purple after DOG in WoTG?

[magic pelican]

JACKPOTTTTTT

[glossy glacier]

Devs making an essential item take 3 hours to drop

[glossy glacier]

Oh that

Yeah

I love stargazing at the rift of eternal damnation

https://tenor.com/view/the-weeknd-blinding-lights-glasses-sunglasses-light-gif-14126682526462838297

[near wedge]

Solyn is the only thing maintaining my sanity

[glossy glacier]

REAL AF

[near wedge]

and the fan art

i want to draw her

ive said it like 500 times

[magic pelican]

Dont get me started on the fanart

I sobbed at THAT fanart

[near wedge]

[glossy glacier]

You're on your own for that one

[near wedge]

im not THAT kind of artist

[glossy glacier]

Oh no I honestly couldn't care about that

I've just seen some

Things I'd rather not have seen

[near wedge]

fair

Goodness gracious

I fucking hate yharons dash

its so hard to predict

[pine pewter]

Infernum?

[near wedge]

yes

[pine pewter]

When Yharon turns orange, the dash is delayed and leaves a trail

the delay is somewhat similar to DoG final phase's delayed dash

[floral epoch]

oh
you finally defeated dog?

[hearty orbit]

im liking it, what are you going for?

[magic pelican]

Look up kamina city from Gurren Laggan

[near wedge]

miscommunication?

i defeated him like 3 days ago

[floral epoch]

oh

[near wedge]

FINALLY some progress on yharon

down to 30% health on phase 1

[floral epoch]

how many attempts rn?

[near wedge]

26

[floral epoch]

good progress

[near wedge]

Think i was trying to ram dash too much like DoG

also im getting more DPS with maw of infinity rather than the kaleidoscope

[floral epoch]

i mean

on phase 2 yea

so be prepared

[near wedge]

That delayed pause before he dashes

is driving me fucking insane

[glossy glacier]

Surprised you didn't learn from infernum DoG

[near wedge]

wdym

I felt like i was slowly learning with dog

[glossy glacier]

He has some pretty delayed dashes when he does the portal shit

[near wedge]

Feels random though

Like theres barely any visual or audio que

[glossy glacier]

Small tip

Try to stay under him most of the time

[near wedge]

Ill try that tomorrow

my cortisol was spiking immediately

[near wedge]

i am going to enjoy this boss fight i am sure

sub 60 attempts!

[glossy glacier]

Infernum DoG took me like 4 hours of non-stop practice

The difficulty spike was brutal

[frank mauve]

dog is also very meltable

[misty steppe]

Only 12 tries for dog

Not bad

[near wedge]

infernum?

[misty steppe]

Yeah

[near wedge]

yeah right

[misty steppe]

Should've been less but i stopped paying attention at 2 %

Would be a weird thing to lie about

It's not my first infernum playthrough

[near wedge]

oh

what was your first playthrough attempt #

[misty steppe]

Between 20 and 25 i think

Less than 30

It goes by pretty quick

[near wedge]

Do you play osu or something

[misty steppe]

I think i died to signus more this run

[near wedge]

or one of those types of games

[misty steppe]

Hell na osu looks lame af

[near wedge]

then how tf

[misty steppe]

I feel like dog fight is very simple there's not much to it

[near wedge]

this guy is the god gamer

[misty steppe]

You just dash and dodge the lasers that's pretty much it

[near wedge]

247 tries btw

[misty steppe]

I struggled a lot more on my last infernum playthrough in general

First tried most bosses this time

What are you using

[frank mauve]

werent u summoner aswell

[near wedge]

yes

[frank mauve]

dogs kinda rough for summoner

[misty steppe]

This was my setup

[frank mauve]

but thankfully virid vanguard exists

[misty steppe]

Pretty suboptimal probably i changed nothing from providence

I feel like full damage is the way to go

[near wedge]

this feels like when a 13 year old artist is drawing professionally

[misty steppe]

Plus a ram dash obviously and the bereft vassal thing

[frank mauve]

save us virid vanguard 🙏

[misty steppe]

But i forgot to switch to damage accessories

[misty steppe]

I do also have 2000 hours

For what it's worth

[near wedge]

context was important

i never beat the base game

[misty steppe]

Interesting

[frank mauve]

good idea to jump straight into inf

[near wedge]

genius

[misty steppe]

I don't think i could play vanilla anymore ngl

[near wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[misty steppe]

I can't remember doing more than half a vanilla run since 2017

What are you dying to

I find you can buy a lot of time just by flying away in one direction

Sometimes enough to skip to a projectile phase

I realize also i forgot to fight old duke

[near wedge]

same lmao

[misty steppe]

Boss sucks anyway

[frank mauve]

old duke best dash slop 😿

[misty steppe]

Shittier duke fishron if he was also aquatic scourge

[frank mauve]

(2x speed inf yharon better)

[misty steppe]

I think astrageldon was the hardest boss i fought this run

Top 3 would be signus , dog , astrageldon

[mighty current]

Yo, I have done an infernum run with every class and I'm thinking of trying a hardcore run (terrible Idea, I know) what class should I do? Its been ages since I did my first 3 so I can't remember what they were like, should I jst go summoner? Or like switch depending on the phase of the game?

[frank mauve]

switch

[mighty current]

Aight, do you know if there's anywhere I can find like the best class per segment of the game?

[frank mauve]

i doubt theres still updated stuff for that

[mighty current]

Damn

[frank mauve]

lowk

just go ranger and abuse grape beer

[misty steppe]

Grape beer is crazy

[mighty current]

What does grape beer do I never use the alcohols

[misty steppe]

If you lose damage i haven't even noticed

[frank mauve]

i can give you a progression list rq of what to abuse with grape beer

[misty steppe]

75 % less crit damage for insane homing

[misty steppe]

Give me dat

[frank mauve]

i was just gonna make a quick one

[misty steppe]

What should i run for yharon

Sdfmg severely disappointed me with sub 10k dps

[mighty current]

End game ranger felt kinda mid I'm ngl, but I was prolly doing a sub-optimal setup cuz I wasn't usin uhhhh wiki

[pseudo isle]

anyone got advice for calamity+stars above hardmode? best accessories/gear, weapons to get right after killing certain bosses, etc?

[frank mauve]

pre mechs:

dart guns: crystal darts - aoe, ichor darts - single
daedalus stormbow - unholy arrows, holy arrows when you get them
gatligator - exploding bullets

all good up to calclone, defeat her and get animosity with exploding bullets, after plant u have

chain gun - explod
arietes - explod
megalodon - explod
tactical shotgun - explod
bladedge - holy arrows
eternal blizzard holy arrows

post golem:

xenopopper - explod
tsunami - holy arrows
realm ravager - explod
plague tainted smg - no grape beer, right click only, have something that inflict plague

post cultist,

xenopopper - hailstorm bullets
vortex beater - explod

postml,

shredder - holy fire, daawnlight
planetary annihilation - holy arrows

@mighty current

when u reach post provi lmk

[frank mauve]

theres so many options

do u like guns or launchers or

[misty steppe]

I would say guns

[mighty current]

I aint even started the run yet but preciate it

[misty steppe]

Blissful bombardier the goat tho

[frank mauve]

do u have purity

[misty steppe]

No but i could get it pretty easily

[frank mauve]

onyxia with purity, grape beer and god slayer slugs is pretty

[misty steppe]

I was trending in that direction

[frank mauve]

my personal fav is universal genesis with purity and tungsten

[misty steppe]

Holy arrows are insane

[frank mauve]

if u want a bow then theres thread of eradication with purity

which is uhh

[misty steppe]

So purity in general is good for this

[frank mauve]

its funny

https://youtu.be/5K4jvmmRa80?si=R3X-pORU4sUt36bB

[leaden vector]

what accessories for ranger after hardmode?

[mighty current]

Any idea for pre hm inf hardcore? Skeletron is a giant pain and I can't remember who did best against him

[frank mauve]

short circuit is pretty good

[humble marlin]

i was gonna say something but

it might be outdated knowledge

[frank mauve]

u can still say it

[mighty current]

Also jst pre hm as a whole

[humble marlin]

shadethrower

it made my life so easy when i did hc

[mighty current]

Aint that corruption tho, I don't like corruption

I am a crimson enjoyer

[humble marlin]

you can transmute(?

not sure

[frank mauve]

shadethrower uhh

[elder nebula]

not those weapons no

[humble marlin]

ah

[frank mauve]

got -1 dmg and 12 statis iframes instead of 10

22 to 21 dmg

[mighty current]

Can you change uhhhh the crismon perf material to the corruption one?

[misty steppe]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cOGSrduWAZPn527KZDrAC7-Sqq7ctQ7R6K1sZ5SY5aU/edit?tab=t.wtddjjm8qb9 This is a pretty good list

[leaden vector]

updated?

[misty steppe]

Yeah

[frank mauve]

✅

[leaden vector]

goated

what reforge do i go for if im using grape beer

[misty steppe]

I would say hard

[leaden vector]

i just put warding on everything but idk if theres anythng better

[misty steppe]

But with new reforge system i reallly have no idea

Hard is 5 defense now

[mighty current]

I always do all menacing ngl

I will simply just not get hit

[misty steppe]

Yeah menacing is more fun

[frank mauve]

hard is good for prehm

[leaden vector]

warding kinda goated tho

[misty steppe]

But i don't know if it's the best anymore

Warding adds max life ?

[frank mauve]

bro got dlc

[mighty current]

What the heck have I missed

[misty steppe]

Why doesn't mine do that

[leaden vector]

im too butt

[mighty current]

Valid

[frank mauve]

fargos souls make warding give hp i believe

[misty steppe]

What should i run for damage

Jagged ?

[leaden vector]

yeah i have that on

[frank mauve]

jagged is only good for low dmg and fast firing weapon

[misty steppe]

So is menacing the best for damage still

[mighty current]

Man playing on an older version of calamity is so weird cuz why would jagged be better

[misty steppe]

Also does infernum change reaper shark spawning or just random as usual

[frank mauve]

unless purity/summoner then lucky is the best

[misty steppe]

The new system is odd

[mighty current]

What have I missed??? Why does everything happen when I can't get internet

[misty steppe]

And with purity ?

[frank mauve]

reforges changed

[humble marlin]

early phm dauntless 🤤

[frank mauve]

well menacing obviously

cuz u cant crit

[misty steppe]

Right

[frank mauve]

but outside of purity or summoner ud want lucky

[humble marlin]

grape beer purity is genuinely insane too
i tried it

[frank mauve]

doesnt seem tooo worth it

[humble marlin]

never thought something like thatd be real

[misty steppe]

Grape beer alone is insane

[humble marlin]

oh reforging for it is def not

[frank mauve]

its like uhh

[misty steppe]

35k dps with a pre providence weapon come on bruh

[frank mauve]

25 defense vs 75 hp

[humble marlin]

but i found a cloud in a bottle, an aglet and a balloon with it

it made my day

[frank mauve]

dangg

yeah thats good

[west flame]

arent u supposed to get a 6th slot in expert infernum after eoc

[mighty current]

What

[humble marlin]

no

[west flame]

bruh alright

[frank mauve]

new reforges

dauntless and invigorating

[mighty current]

Ah, what they do

[west flame]

btw does stained glass selling still work as a money maker?

[frank mauve]

daunt: +15 hp
invi: +0.5 hp/sec

[mighty current]

Interesting

[humble marlin]

finding dauntless accs while having 0 heart crystals is a feeling better than anything

[misty steppe]

Moonshine worth the drawback ?

[night fractal]

if you can go 3 seconds without getting hit the drawback doesn't exist

[frank mauve]

if u dont get hit alot in a row yeah

[misty steppe]

Figured

[night fractal]

Well, 3 seconds once iframes end

[misty steppe]

Sounds pretty great

Yeah

[night fractal]

So 4-5 seconds if you got cross necklace and the like

[mighty current]

Oh also any advice for inf perf? Like what gear should I use for them or should I just go corruption this one time and fight hive mind instead if that's easier

[misty steppe]

1064 health now

[young token]

I feel like am not doing enough damage to the destroyer

[misty steppe]

Must be doing something wrong

Pretty hard not to

[frank mauve]

time to eep

[maiden cobalt]

i just saw crabulons attacks (via the wiki)

current crabulon is a counter to that???

"hey guys this fights really cool what if i did jackall and did not make the boss

[leaden vector]

i think my twins are bugging out

im on infernum and they're doin some weird shit

[summer gust]

whats the best weapon for destroyer infernum? i use inferna cutter but i still cant manage to eve nget to the last phase

nvm u just gotta hit destroyer with the inferna cutter itsself not the sparks and its cheese

[steady ermine]

yep, also add slagsplitter pauldron to that and she just sort of explodes

[summer gust]

aight ill test it out

[chrome delta]

Ranger is laggy af what do i do

I have 5060 is it normal that my game drops to 5 fps?

Halibut cannon and godslayer slugs vs infernum exo mechs

[grim swallow]

hopefully this timne I didnt fuck up anything with deerclops no hit

[dense eagle]

dont expect your game to not lag when your cpu must calculate 500 bullets with special effects on hit

[chrome delta]

Never playing ranger again

Not even that good

[dense eagle]

[chrome delta]

Maybe my loadout just isnt great

[dense eagle]

prob that

i sometimes had the same issue

[robust fog]

am i not allowed to jump over deerclops in the fargo/calamity dlc

[dense eagle]

but yea, 500 warping explosive bullets will lag xd

[chrome delta]

Yeah ig im not completing infernum as ranger
20 hours spent for nothing

[chrome delta]

Dropping on exo mechs

[fading dove]

you very much can

[fading dove]

hell, going over is how i do maso deer

[glossy glacier]

You're firing like
500 bullets every half second

[fading dove]

or at least did

[glossy glacier]

And you expect the game to be fine

[fading dove]

before she got gutted

[maiden cobalt]

isnt halibut cannon the cosmic noob trap

[fading dove]

well not she, deerclops is a species

[glossy glacier]

It's still busted

[fading dove]

eh

[glossy glacier]

But with God slayer slugs the game will scream in pain

[fading dove]

it gets hit damn hard by the 50 flat reduction that scal and exos have

[glossy glacier]

True

Contagion is the better endgame weapon anyway

[lament helm]

whewheres the lab for murasama dugged out the entire right side couldnt find it

[fading dove]

i'd just say chicken cannon and ace's high are better to use

[glossy glacier]

Maybe a little lower

[rich shale]

Is the calamity overhaul still compatible with the new update?

[glossy glacier]

No

[fading dove]

why are you focusing on the sword and not the thing required for progression

[rich shale]

oh ogey

[glossy glacier]

Also that

[glossy glacier]

Pre endgame yeah

Ace's high is goated

[fading dove]

ace's high's damage is quite good but it does suffer a bit on thana from my experience with current malice exos

the lifesteal helps a lot though

[glossy glacier]

KingsBane can be decent imo

I like it

[fading dove]

that was the first thing i tried and it took like 2 minutes to get hunters to 70%

[glossy glacier]

Lmao

[chrome delta]

Rogue was much smoother in post moonlord
Ranger was easy, i was 1 attempting
And then after guardians it became like 3x as hard
And now it just lags like hell

[fading dove]

yeahi get that its legendary stat boat but like

[glossy glacier]

Is it choppy or slow

[chrome delta]

Slow

[glossy glacier]

If it's choppy turn off frame skip

[fading dove]

ace;s high gets around 1:20 for hunters start

[glossy glacier]

Turn off frame skip regardless

See if you can get some performance mods

[chrome delta]

Installed nitrate
Did nothing

[glossy glacier]

Tmodloader is surprisingly bad with handling performance

[chrome delta]

Redcued particles to 1000

[fading dove]

who knew building a game in an engine that was outdated for a few years when first starting to make the game was a bad idea

[glossy glacier]

It's baffling how little Tmodloader can handle

[fading dove]

terraria for all intents and purposes sucks on an internal level

[glossy glacier]

Meanwhile you have r2 modman that can run like 200 mod mod packs at 60+ FPS

Oh you hit like 500 enemies in RoR2 with 200 mods on? Yeah you lag for like a few seconds and then it's back to buttery smooth

Meanwhile hitting any horde with earth destroys Tmodloader

[glossy glacier]

Spam or stealth Rogue

[chrome delta]

Spam

I tried stealth

But only on moonlord and desert scourge

Idk i dont like burst damage gameplay

And im not good at it

The lag ranger has is crazy

Everything was good until DoG

[glossy glacier]

Stealth is better but most of the time people build it wrong

[chrome delta]

Then i got The Storm (hell) and then halibut cannon (super hell)

[glossy glacier]

Yeah Tmodloader is kinda a piece of shit when it comes to performance

[chrome delta]

There no even mods like sodium or optifine
You just have to suck it up

[glossy glacier]

Optifine is GARBAGE

What are you talking about

[chrome delta]

Idk i always installed it along with others

[glossy glacier]

Bro it's incompatible with like half the mods to DATE

[chrome delta]

By itself i dont think it did much
Last time i played mc was maybe 3 years ago

[glossy glacier]

It's super outdated as well

It is one of the most incompatible mods out there

[chrome delta]

Strange cuz its one of the most installed

[glossy glacier]

Yeah cuz it used to be good

Nowadays the updates to the mod are super slow and again, it's compatible with VERY few other mods

Sodium is better

[leaden vector]

eternity mode destroyer makes infernum destroyer look like a baby

my goodness

[glossy glacier]

Yeah

Eternity has a lot of bs

[leaden vector]

i beat infernum destroyer first try but im on like attempt 7 for eternity

does having infernum mode enabled fuck with the ai at all

wow it does

its like 10x harder with infernum and eternity on

might be why my twins were bugging

[grim swallow]

cal clone is gonna be so "fun" to no hit

[glossy glacier]

Yeah don't mix infernum and eternity

The ai does NOT combine well

[leaden vector]

i figured

smh

[glossy glacier]

There's a mod that gives compatibility between the mods

Death and masochist

(I honestly don't even notice the difference past early game)

[glossy glacier]

For maso vs eternity

[glossy glacier]

Did you just pull this out of a bag of holding

[maiden cobalt]

no i cross sourced

it desperately needs to be pinned in fargo smdiscord

[glossy glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-spandan-oh-spandan-ohh-how-did-imissthis-gif-22088469

[leaden vector]

wait so whats the mod called so i can get it

[glossy glacier]

Revengance+ I believe gives compatibility between death mode And Eternity

[maiden cobalt]

just get Fargo Calamity DLC

[glossy glacier]

Or that

[leaden vector]

i jus need the eternity drops for fargos souls 💔

[chrome delta]

Infernum destroyer is a baby

[glossy glacier]

I've been trying to find a mod that adds old malice back but the one I found has issues

[chrome delta]

Idk whats the hype with infernum mechs. Theyre very easy

[glossy glacier]

I wanna have old malice back

[leaden vector]

yeah i figured that out

[chrome delta]

They never took me more than 2 attempts even when i first beat infernum

[glossy glacier]

Infernum makes a lot of bosses less random

And more predictable

[leaden vector]

its my first infernum run and i was suprised how easy it was

[glossy glacier]

Wait till you get to DoG

[chrome delta]

Destroyer is the easiest. Maybe on tie with skeletron prime
The twins are okay. The other 2 are just frauds

[glossy glacier]

Infernum DoG is

Something

That MF took me like 4 hours straight of non-stop attempts

[leaden vector]

my twins were BUGGING earlier and it was so bad i couldnt even beat them properly

but its prob cuz infernum and eternity mixed

so now i know

[chrome delta]

Its ok
My first ever competition did take me 2 hours
But now i beat him without arena
The Storm and wooden arrows vs DoG

Inf DoG ez after first completion

[glossy glacier]

True

[chrome delta]

Scal and exos are harder

[glossy glacier]

After the first run he's good

But that first encounter

[chrome delta]

Goozma is the hardest

[glossy glacier]

Yeesh

[chrome delta]

Hell

Infernum providence is also really hard

Only godly players can no hit her

[leaden vector]

so if i have fargos calamity dlc thing will it still have infernum ai

[glossy glacier]

I think infernum providence is easier imo

I hate base calamity the stupid star spray attack

It's just so tedious to dodge

[chrome delta]

Idk i find it pretty easy to dodge compared to her infernum attacks

In infernum she just spams hella

[glossy glacier]

She has a lot more annoying stuff compared to infernum

Imo

[chrome delta]

Yeah true

[glossy glacier]

Infernum SCal is cool

Exos are way better

[chrome delta]

In infernum the most annoying
Is probably when she like stops and starts shooting those rays you know
Standing in place and shooting rays
And below you fire appears and flies up

[glossy glacier]

Haven't done infernum in a while

[chrome delta]

Sometimes i catch 3 rays in a row with my face and thats kinda shame

Kills instantly

[glossy glacier]

Lol

Have you played Catalyst at all

[chrome delta]

Nope

Is it astrageldon

[glossy glacier]

Astralgeddon my goat

It's a super fun fight

[chrome delta]

Is he better than goozma?

[glossy glacier]

Idk haven't done goozma

[chrome delta]

Goozma is really hard

Harder than exos and scal

In infernum

And without it too, tbh

Infernum buffs goozma

[glossy glacier]

Catalyst also comes with post ML whips

Which is nice for relaxed summoner runs

[chrome delta]

I used kaleidoscope from eol to scal

[glossy glacier]

These whips are way better trust me

[chrome delta]

Thought other whips are too op

I dont know, havent tried

[glossy glacier]

They're not super balanced but like

You're playing summoner

[chrome delta]

Catalyst or simple whips or hunt of the old god whip

[glossy glacier]

It's not hard to begin with

Might as well have fun with it

[chrome delta]

Imm install catalyst i guess
For my melee run

I think im not beating ranger at this point

Unfortunate

[leaden vector]

should i kill brimstone elemental and skeletron prime before trying to upgrade my gear

[glossy glacier]

Probably

[chrome delta]

Where are you in the progression

[leaden vector]

i killed like everything before

[glossy glacier]

Yeah

Should do brimmy next

[leaden vector]

daedalus with grape beer carrying

[robust rivet]

Yo, anyone knows some good add ons to use? Would like recommendations! (not looking for crazy unbalanced items)

[eager veldt]

catalyst

[robust rivet]

oh also, multiplayer has to work with it

[eager veldt]

probably one of the most balanced

it does

[robust rivet]

oh nice then!

[chrome delta]

Hunt of the old god

[robust rivet]

tysm!

[eager veldt]

there might be a few issues I haven't heard of

since multiplayer is just like that

[chrome delta]

Adds goozma
Goozma will grill your shi

[robust rivet]

btw, is their any mod that helps with lag?

[leaden vector]

man brimstone elemental is easy

[eager veldt]

fps or ping

[robust rivet]

unsure

both

prob

[eager veldt]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2997062221

you can try this

if its ping then just get better internet idk

[leaden vector]

plantera is kickin my butt

those spores are so annoying

[leaden vector]

nvm i did it

[grim swallow]

"man this cal clone run is so good"
green+pink hex sun orb

[tulip tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/old-old-people-gambling-gamble-vegas-gif-7776685678749939051

Infernum cal shade

[fading dove]

shes nohittable with every combo

[grim swallow]

yeah but green red hex on sun orb is much harder than pink yellow

dude how do I even survive the start of her last phase

[spiral jewel]

well, updates for the calamity overhaul, infernum, WotM, WotG run:

No crashes so far
The hallibut canon is just a slightly better megashark with one instance of percing in Pre boss and so far up till the eye
I dont understand the skills so im only using it as a regular gun
i havent gotten any crashes yet BUT i havent touch any of the new draedon lab mechanical stuff, im very much expecting that to be the end of the world

lets see how far this run gets before innevitable world corruption

[latent shore]

Does anyone know how to fix? Im playing wrath of the gods and I just got Solyn. Her camp is up but the telescope is nowhere to be found? Can anyone help me please.

[grim swallow]

any advice for green and pink/ green and red sun?

green sun as a whole tbh

literally 99% of my deaths are green hex sun

cuz she does it almost always\

[dry lantern]

What do I do about inf exo mechs dropping my fps

[gusty ferry]

which ones green

accelerate?

[pine pewter]

yep

[grim swallow]

fucking absurd speed

[gusty ferry]

personally i stay closer to her and choose the gap before it speed up

[grim swallow]

and then I have red as my second hex

[gusty ferry]

good old magi

[gusty ferry]

soul seeker?

[grim swallow]

yeah

[gusty ferry]

yeah that soul seeker + accelerate is so ass

[grim swallow]

the only attempts that get to final phase are those where p2 starts off with NOT green

[spiral jewel]

what i did was just break the flag and place it again a little to the left and it got fixed

[gloomy apex]

Infernum Cal Clone be so good then boom.

Genki Dama

[pine pewter]

fsoc is just "please don't spam red/green hex"

[spiral jewel]

honestly i dont know what the hexes do, i just beat her in 2 attempts when playing rogue

[grim swallow]

WHY DID SHE GO LEFT FOR THE FINAL PHASE

SHE AKWAYS STARTED IT RIGHT

I could have done the fight but she went left and idk where is the safe spot for if shes left

I like the concept of hexes but imo 2 of them are done in a not the best way

those being the two hexes that summon extra stuff

also any advice for the dash attack in p2

I keep on dying to it cuz I dont get to practice it in p1

[restive rover]

What's better bloodfare or Omega blue for maximum damage true melee on Infernum DoG?

[spiral jewel]

omega blue by a lot

[lilac herald]

Omega blue will hard carry

[spiral jewel]

if you make him coil using the big ass sword that spawns the providence flames plus the omegablue rage it shreds

[frank mauve]

bloodflare

with regenerator

[humble marlin]

yuck coiling

[maiden anvil]

what do i do if im in a medium world on infernum on moonlord and after 5 rows of normal distanced platforms i reach space and cant dodge shit

[lilac herald]

Have you tried gravity normalizer potions?

[maiden anvil]

nope what are they

[fading dove]

they normalise gravity

[lilac herald]

They remove the low-grav effect from space

Super useful for late game

[maiden anvil]

im on pre moonlord btw

if that cahnges anything

[lilac herald]

Yeah they’re obtainable

They’re post aureus

[maiden anvil]

alr ty ill try em

[spiral jewel]

i always forget those things exists... and considering how often you go into space in post ml i dont understand how

[lilac herald]

Dude same. I find that the more I play Infernum, the less I really need them bc I can keep bosses lower to the ground

[halcyon crown]

up to what boss are the astrageldon and metanova related items from catalyst viable

[lilac herald]

But my first few runs those things were a run saver

[lilac herald]

Honestly, I’ve only really used them up to DoG but that’s because they were too good imo

Exalted horizon is just a bit… much

[pine pewter]

They're post-provi tiered

[fading dove]

theyre intended post providence

[pine pewter]

The flawless drop is probably post-polter lol

[lilac herald]

Still haven’t gotten that…

[pine pewter]

it's not even nohit

just no damage

[lilac herald]

Yeah shadow dodges work

Alright, I’m running hallowed armor

[halcyon crown]

ah alright ty

[lilac herald]

Anyone else not really like the catalyst armor?

It makes me way too fast

[pine pewter]

I stopped using it after I realised I'm not learning anything from the bosses ml - provi

and I am going to be so unbelievably cooked when I inevitably do a nohit journey

[quick rose]

so apparently the wizard enchantment is like really good

but is it really?

is using a full slot to make an accessory better than using 2 different ones

[halcyon crown]

if running catalyst mp, if my friend gets hit but I don't (get hit), do we not get the flawless from drops, or only the person who did a no-hit gets it

[cedar laurel]

yeah

it doubled reaver enchantment effect in dlc

thas 30 defense and 30% damage reduction

[brisk jewel]

what melee weapon should i use for infernum eater of worlds?

[fading dove]

nerfed actually

only 20 defence, 20 dr, and iirc 10 regen

[cedar laurel]

It’s like there’s some kind of cruel eternity god

[hollow elbow]

some kind of mutant...

[echo sleet]

is opal striker a good weapon?

[fading dove]

yeah its good

easy to use for rev an death dog while still getting good results

[echo sleet]

what about magna cannon

[fading dove]

oh wait i was thinking of something else

magna's good yeah

opal i'm nnot sure about

[echo sleet]

why doesn't fargos insta house doesn't work btw