calamity-addon-talk

[frank mauve]

wdym

[gritty galleon]

yo

offtopic but ultrakill fraud layer is out

[solar sable]

So i have infernum mode on and im post calamitas clone but when i go to the abyss, no reaper sharks spawn

[jagged pilot]

seems like YOU didnt get it

wotg adds a godmode item

[frank mauve]

whats the name

[jagged pilot]

lotus of creation

[frank mauve]

ohh that had a use

well idek if i got it anyway

[jagged pilot]

you needa 100% the bookshelf

buuuuut canonically you're allowed to cheat them in with dragonlens

[frank mauve]

i did full bookshelf by cheating

i will NOT bother getting every book

[jagged pilot]

i mean some books js have a 1/77777777 spawn chance

so

[frank mauve]

i remember that playthrough i combined 2 of my least favorite thing

wotg + yoyos

damn near ended myself

[jagged pilot]

wdym you dont like wotg

[frank mauve]

boring

its just a 1-2 time playthrough typa mod

[jagged pilot]

blocked

wotg is goated bro

[frank mauve]

its not even worth the lag

[jagged pilot]

it so is

[frank mauve]

im only waiting for the standalone

[jagged pilot]

wdym

[frank mauve]

theres a wotg standalone mod coming out

[jagged pilot]

which does what

more content?

[frank mauve]

itll expand on it yeah

[jagged pilot]

W

[jagged pilot]

asscheeks take btw

thats like saying a certain boss is boring because after fighting him once you know how to fight him and its easy..

[frank mauve]

ur telling me i have to fight thru 2 of the worst bosses OAT just so i can get to nameless deity?

yeah no thanks

[jagged pilot]

who you calling bad bosses

???

[frank mauve]

mars and aoe

[jagged pilot]

???

[frank mauve]

mars bottom 1 boss EVER

[jagged pilot]

crazy take

[frank mauve]

this is not even crazy

[jagged pilot]

got skill issued?

[final sphinx]

the mars fight is just a lot of nothing the entire time

[frank mauve]

i genuinely cant stay awake fighting that guy

[tawdry mist]

just finished base calamity revengence as summoner (To learn how to 'survive' the bosses)

What are some good addons to put in that play nice together? Going to spin a wheel to find which class is next.

[frank mauve]

and aoe has ADS throughout the fight just like inf ml

[final sphinx]

definitely get catalyst, its prob at the top for highest quality addons

[jagged pilot]

wotg, wotm, hotog, catalyst

[final sphinx]

and maybe hunt of the old god too

wrath of the machines is definitely optional but yeah id say get that

since base exo mechs are ass

[frank mauve]

hunt of the dold god

hotdog

[jagged pilot]

hunt of the depressingly old god

[final sphinx]

but yeah wotg definitely has issues

[tawdry mist]

I've noticed people talk about that

are the WOTG issues crippling?

the mod seems cool

[final sphinx]

the only good part is nameless deity

both mars and avatar of emptiness are snoozefests

[jagged pilot]

only if multiplayer

[final sphinx]

and avatar of emptiness is what like

[jagged pilot]

L take

[final sphinx]

5 minutes long?

or like 7

from what ive heard

[frank mauve]

agree

[final sphinx]

mars is

high quality but

repetitive

[frank mauve]

only ND is somewhat not boring

[final sphinx]

avatar of emptiness is straight up boring

[tawdry mist]

do they work with Boss checklist (or will I need to do some wikihunting if I get stuck)

[jagged pilot]

yall js have shit takes

[final sphinx]

they work

[jagged pilot]

work

[frank mauve]

they work but id recommend using boss checklist lite

[final sphinx]

seems a bit toxic but ok

[jagged pilot]

im gonna sleep now i wont take this wotg slander

[final sphinx]

insane wotg glaze

[jagged pilot]

its good bro

i really enjoyed it

had me hooked

[ember dew]

after running it once on each class wotg is b-b-boring

[frank mauve]

how many times did u play wotg

[final sphinx]

fr

[jagged pilot]

great mystery ministory

[final sphinx]

its genuinely just

so boring

only nameless deity is good in it

[jagged pilot]

doing my 2nd run now

[frank mauve]

so u only played it once

[final sphinx]

BRO

[jagged pilot]

and i will play it plenty more

idgaf

[frank mauve]

yeah good luck

[final sphinx]

not to mention the insane amount of bugs in wotg

[frank mauve]

its genuinely just a 1-2 playthrough typa mod

[final sphinx]

fr

one time solyn legit just

[jagged pilot]

its not

[final sphinx]

didnt spawn for me

at all

and thats common too so

and good luck playing in multiplayer 😭

[jagged pilot]

such as other mods have bugs aswell whats your point

[tawdry mist]

anyone played with Remnants?

[ember dew]

💀

[tawdry mist]

ew

[ember dew]

that aint a calamity addon

[final sphinx]

ok thats a bot can we get a staff or smth

[jagged pilot]

@smoky dock

[final sphinx]

ok anyway

[final sphinx]

wotg is legit like

one of the buggiest calamity addons

ive ever played

[jagged pilot]

sure

[final sphinx]

im not even joking

[jagged pilot]

doesnt make its content bad

[ember dew]

never said it was bad

[final sphinx]

it does when you cant play the content

from solyn just leaving 😭

[jagged pilot]

yeah thats valid

but has nothing to do with the bosses

[wise cairn]

wotg is only buggy when you play MP

then it's just laggy the rest of the time

[jagged pilot]

this

also mars doesnt work mp afaik

[wise cairn]

none of the bosses work in MP

[jagged pilot]

fair

[final sphinx]

especially nameless deity

[wise cairn]

besides AoE phase 3 for some reason

[final sphinx]

avatar of emptiness works the most somehow

which shocks me because i expected him to be the buggiest

[wise cairn]

yup

cuz he teleports you

but ig the sub dimensions just serve as spawn points

[languid mist]

as rogue, should i opt for intergelatic armor or should i go for empyrean armor instead?

[final sphinx]

just go with whatever you want honestly

[tawdry mist]

Wheel has decided I must play clicker class

[final sphinx]

i think i went for intergelactic

[final sphinx]

goated asf class

[tawdry mist]

my mouse will be destroyed by the end

[languid inlet]

does this look like a good pre polte / pre dog setup?

[final sphinx]

shouldnt be in the addons channel but it looks fine to me

maybe get elysian aegis too

[languid inlet]

its infernum polte and dog so i thought it should be here

[final sphinx]

oh ok

yeah uh

[languid inlet]

forgot to mention that tho youre right

[final sphinx]

for infernum dog you def want elysian aegis

or youre turning into cheese

[languid inlet]

yea yea ik

[final sphinx]

when is ambrosial ampoule made i actually forgot

[languid inlet]

right before moon lord

[final sphinx]

yeah thats

def outdated by now

that could be replaced for aegis

or the statis could be aegis instead

[languid inlet]

yea but for aegis im just gonna replace the belt at that point

i could put something for more dmg but for now im quite confident on the ampoule since my survivability is very great

also coz melee is a broken class

[crisp crescent]

how exactly do you get the halibut cannon with calamity overhaul

[final sphinx]

i wouldnt personally recommend using overhaul but its from fishing in the ocean

[wise cairn]

you delete calamity overhaul

then kill adult eidolon wyrm

[frank mauve]

how about you dont play overhaul

[final sphinx]

real

but yeah overhaul is

really bad on balancing

[dense ocean]

And functioning.

[wise cairn]

poorly balanced and bricked a couple of my characters and worlds

[final sphinx]

never bricked any of my stuff but

yeah the game is a lot worse with it

[dense ocean]

It's also called the Primordial Wyrm.

[wise cairn]

got lucky

[final sphinx]

fr

[frank mauve]

even if it was perfectly fine how do people genuinely enjoy playing it

[wise cairn]

caloverhaul glazers always pmo too

[ember dew]

😎

[final sphinx]

calamity overhaul is

a good concept

but TERRIBLE execution

[wise cairn]

the calamity overhaul wiki is also put together so badly

like what is this

[cunning verge]

PFFFFFF

[wise cairn]

and most of the articles don't even lead anywhere

[cunning verge]

Dude

[final sphinx]

not even done btw but its still THAT ASS

[wise cairn]

not blue = nothing

[frank mauve]

well overhaul fans love their mod so much

[ember dew]

this is true

[final sphinx]

they just know off the top of their head

[ember dew]

this is also true

[final sphinx]

not to mention the stolen code 😭

[ember dew]

not my problem

[gritty galleon]

was lionfish always this unholy good?

this gotta be my faster wof kill

[frank mauve]

yeah

[empty flint]

how do i exit soryn's telescope

[elder nebula]

find what you're looking for

[empty flint]

i was there for like 10 mins without being able to exit and the portal thingy was no where to be seen but i fixed it now

😭

[cunning verge]

What mod is thst

[empty flint]

Calamity: Wrath of the Gods

[cunning verge]

Is the telescope needed for progression, or is side content

[quaint bluff]

can you use terraria overhaul with calamity

[elder nebula]

no

[quaint bluff]

why what conflicts

[elder nebula]

many things

[quaint bluff]

alr

[dense ocean]

Part of the main quest.

[obtuse creek]

i didn't know overhaul is.. that bad
i've only heard ppl say good things abt it but i guess its not all rainbows and marmalade

guess i shouldn't get overhaul for a modpack then?

[night fractal]

probably not

[dense ocean]

Where on Earth were you to only hear good things?

[obtuse creek]

well, i just finished my bajillionth playthrough of regular terraria and decided to look into mods...
i've searched for like "good modpacks" and stuff, and almost everywhere in YT vids or reddit there was like "OvErHaUl Is NeCeSsArY fOr CaLaMiTy ItS sO gOoD"

and i was like "well... i don't know shit"

[elder nebula]

oh yeah youtubers are morons

don't listen to them

[dense ocean]

Even Redditors know better...

[obtuse creek]

fair enough lmao

[dense ocean]

What the hell is YouTube doing!?

[obtuse creek]

the question is then, will it brick up my world if i remove it from the modpack or not

hmmm

[elder nebula]

probably but it's worth it

[obtuse creek]

also, wtf is "basic sword" and why its 15 dirt for 52 damage?

i don't even know what mod its from but ig its calamity

[magic warren]

Killed providence but NPC won’t give me the option to buy the bag. Any idea why

[rare atlas]

Pretty sure that's from “Example Mod”. I believe it's made by tModLoader themselves to help modders.

[dense ocean]

Did Overhaul just leave in an example weapon?

[rare atlas]

Also, consider getting WMITF so you can tell where an item comes from.

[obtuse creek]

i looked for it, but i couldn't find it for some reason

[obtuse creek]

disabled overhaul, but its still there

[dense ocean]

Did you... install the Example Mod?

[obtuse creek]

nope

just checked the mod list

i have only thorium and calamity + vanity mods

[elder nebula]

mixing thorium and calamity is an extremely poor idea

[obtuse creek]

i thought they had an above average compatibility?

[dense ocean]

No, they don't.

No big mod does.
Except Fargo's Soul with Calamity with the DLC.

Big mods never mix well.

[elder nebula]

above average yes, but the bar is in hell
so still absolute shit

[obtuse creek]

...fair enough

[ember dew]

they have good compatibility with 10 extra compatibility addons

whummus' calamity/thorium balancing

[tacit basin]

Is infernum compatible with the new update

[elder nebula]

yeah

[obtuse creek]

so... just to be clear and try to stay away from massive bugs and issues
rn i have only like 6 content mods at max:
calamity
magic storage
alchemist npc
fargo
weapon enchantment (?)
apachii's classes

does anyone know if i will encounter bug hell with this thing?

i can understand that probably apachii will conflict

[dense ocean]

Alchemist NPC isn't a content mod.

[ember dew]

i wouldnt play with weapon enchantments tbh

[dense ocean]

Or Magic Storage.

[obtuse creek]

but again... i have literally zero terraria modding knowledge, nor do i know what mods and content there are

[wise cairn]

magic storage and alchemistnpc are quality of life mods

[obtuse creek]

hm, ok

[wise cairn]

and i have no idea what either weapon enchantments or apachii's classes are

[dense ocean]

Do you mean Fargo's Mutant Mod or Fargo's Soul Mod?

[obtuse creek]

i thought like "if it adds blocks or anything - its content"

[obtuse creek]

npc, souls will probably clash

[dense ocean]

So that's not a content mod either.

And Soul needs a DLC patch.

[obtuse creek]

how come

[obtuse creek]

ok, then apparently i only have calamity, enchantments and apachii's then
the latter two are... questionable, but i really wanted to expand on the whole class and item thing, since to be fair, its very dull and i get bored of playing the same 4 classes all the time

[ember dew]

id say its unbalanced to have leveling gear

also again if u wanna do calamity/thorium u can use whummus' calamity/thorium balancing

it works really well

[ember dew]

same with apacchiis although im not really sure how it works

[obtuse creek]

hmmm

i can understand that buuuut

calamity adds a new class, right?

[elder nebula]

yes

[ember dew]

yea rogue

[elder nebula]

rogue

thrower but good

[obtuse creek]

sounds like... just melee but named different

[elder nebula]

whar

[obtuse creek]

there is also a DLC mod... do i need it?

[ember dew]

what dlc?

[obtuse creek]

i mean, terraria has like a bunch of throwable melee weapons and just throwables, so its kinda just... still default

[elder nebula]

there's like 6 boomerangs and that's literally it

[ember dew]

oh wait i see, if u plan on using catalyst and hunt of the old god then sure

[elder nebula]

and rogue has an entire extra mechanic called stealth

[obtuse creek]

no idea what both those are

[obtuse creek]

is it just throwing weapons?

[ember dew]

just two boss addons for calamity

[obtuse creek]

i see, not planning to use those for now

[elder nebula]

is what

[obtuse creek]

rogue

[elder nebula]

yeah

[obtuse creek]

i don't get it, it sounds just like "u throw things and that's it"

i see...

kinda... eh?

[ember dew]

not really much new classes can do to be different 😭 the main four can cover literally everything

[elder nebula]

why are you forming opinions of something you've never seen

[obtuse creek]

i mean, thorium did a great job afaik, since it adds bard and healer

[obtuse creek]

well, i'm forming opinions based on the specks of information, and so far it sounds like shroomite armor dagger thrower

aight, i'll probably disable apachii's, since i can see how it can cause damage to calamity\thorium, probably with no compatibility whatsoever too

[gaunt quail]

wow i beat infernum night providence

only took me 87 attempts

best boss in the mod

[ember dew]

W

[obtuse creek]

W

[mild cove]

?????????

17 minute fight when i did ts with enforcer like 3 years ago btw

[frank mauve]

are u using murasama or something

[mild cove]

yea

[limber solar]

im fighting xg07 mars right now and my solyn beam does 1 frame of damage? my dps is like 3000 at most. Anyone knows why?

[mild cove]

and this

with all warding

and moonshine

[frank mauve]

with a setup this offensive getting above 4min is surprising

u should be getting like 2:30 lol

[magic warren]

why can't I buy the providence bag from the NPCs? the bags stop at moon lord, wth

[limber solar]

what npc?

[magic warren]

Candela The Huntress

[limber solar]

which mod is this npc from 😭

are u sure it's from calamity

[spice frigate]

Whats the purpose of gem-tech armour?

[magic warren]

what else would it be? lol

[floral epoch]

i got yharon phase 1 like 1:30 or less than 2 min tho :/

[little steppe]

some QoL

an npc that sells boss bags would never be calamity

[magic warren]

hmm, my buddy set up the server. is AlchemistNPC Lite it by chance?

[frank mauve]

all class armor

well multiclass

is also really good at speedkilling scal

[frank mauve]

u got it boss

[little steppe]

be multiclass armor, simple

[spice frigate]

huh

[little steppe]

there are a few armors lile that

[floral epoch]

and i got quacked on phase 2

[frank mauve]

this means to get gemtech potential u have to use more than 1 class with it

[little steppe]

yeah it is

[floral epoch]

got flashbanged all of time and couldn't react hid dashes

[frank mauve]

u can turn on reduced graphical settings on inf configs

[spice frigate]

how does multiclass even work in this mod, it feels like the class accessories are SO important

[frank mauve]

u just throw whatever and it works

[smoky dock]

You use a summon accessory (optional)

[frank mauve]

gemtech killing inf scal in 52 seconds (dsp is 1min)

[limber solar]

If it's alchemist it should be the operator that's selling bags

[smoky dock]

Multiclassing is a complete fucking myth

[magic warren]

Operator has some of the boss drops like Fragments, Bars, etc.

[smoky dock]

It's AlchNPCLite

alchNPC adds Operator

[limber solar]

try switching the shop, should be modded boss bags

[limber solar]

wrong npc, if you have alchNPC just find the operator

i dont know which mod the huntress is from

[magic warren]

yes, youre right!

didnt realize it had a shop changer

thanks!

[gaunt quail]

what are some good mage options for infernum old duke

[limber solar]

ghastly visage for the tracking

after ur done with old duke swap to dark spark for DoG

good luck soldier

[gaunt quail]

ok thx

[smoky dock]

shadowbolt staff

or whatever the post-polterghast variant is

[gaunt quail]

ill try both

[smoky dock]

nice point and click option with reasonable damage

[gaunt quail]

see how it goes

yeah

its shadowbolt

[smoky dock]

How'd you find out so fast

Did you test on a dummy

[frank mauve]

what about phantasmal fury 🤔

[smoky dock]

never heard of her

[gaunt quail]

no like

u werent sure if it was called shadowbolt

[smoky dock]

oh right

[frank mauve]

alpha draconis with the pointer is quite funny

[gaunt quail]

maybe yeah

but like

i actually need to aim that

and old duke

x_x

[limber solar]

ghastly visage supremacy

we LOVE auto tracking 😍

[gaunt quail]

wait nvm

[frank mauve]

ghastly visage is also goated

[gaunt quail]

it tracks

[limber solar]

oh shit

[gaunt quail]

i thought fury didnt track

[limber solar]

[gaunt quail]

ye its way better

[smoky dock]

i have idea

use omega blue weaponless

[gaunt quail]

good idea

[limber solar]

setting bro up for failure 😭

[gaunt quail]

it would be doable on something like

providence

i reckon

[smoky dock]

omega blue weaponless gets killtimes some bonafide weapons can't get

[limber solar]

how do u guys even farm for omega blue armor, I keep dying to abyss pressure and I can't see anything

[smoky dock]

it got buffed in 2.1.0 actually

[gaunt quail]

get abyssal diving gear

idk

[smoky dock]

use the thing that makes you completely immune to abyssal pressure and also use the things that let you see in the abyss

[limber solar]

which thing lets me see in abyss 😭

[smoky dock]

Use the Wiki

[limber solar]

very helpful

[smoky dock]

it's on the page for the Abyss

[gaunt quail]

i think

the main problem is

[smoky dock]

There's a list of about a dozen items which help you, and you can use multiple at once

[gaunt quail]

u have to wait for 20 minutes

for the sharks to spawn

[frank mauve]

u can check the pin in #calamity-update-talk

[gaunt quail]

to get enough teeth

i fucking hate old duke

how is it that progression wise the worst boss of the mod is right after the best

[magic warren]

are yoyos typically the best single target damage?

[smoky dock]

No

[gaunt quail]

i think normal swords are just better than yoyos

100% of the time

[smoky dock]

In terms of the melee class, true melee tends to have the best damage output

(Assuming 100% damage uptime, which is not realistic to assume)

[steep cobalt]

who uses yoyo anyways?

[smoky dock]

shrug

[magic warren]

just curious, bromes melee build gives 3 weapons + 1 yoyo for each stage. I'm new so I never quite know what to use so I typically just use the first weapon.

[smoky dock]

Out of the weapons listed, all of them are good, so pick whichever one is the most appealing or easiest to obtain

[gaunt quail]

use whichever looks coolest to you

[steep cobalt]

your most grievous mistake was relying on youtube guides

[gaunt quail]

everything is viable

[smoky dock]

Although I've never seen a YouTuber that knows what they're talking about and video guides tend to be very outdated

Especially considering 2.1.0 was so recent and completely flipped the game's balance on its head

Technically using any weapon is a mistake currently

[gaunt quail]

what does that mean

[smoky dock]

There are currently greater than zero non-weapon items that're able to defeat bosses faster than any weapon

It's so funny

[gaunt quail]

that is incredible

are you referring to omega blue

[smoky dock]

no Omega Blue is just regular funny

[gaunt quail]

wat else

[smoky dock]

If I tell then it'll get patched

That's what happened with my baby Toxic Heart

[gaunt quail]

😭

[steep cobalt]

toxic shart

[gritty galleon]

did they remove aquatic scourge skull?

[smoky dock]

No

[gaunt quail]

nope

[gritty galleon]

do you need to be on death to get it

[gaunt quail]

might not be a 100% drop

i got it on infernum

if that helps

[smoky dock]

Do you know how to get it normally

[gaunt quail]

i dont remember how to get it

[smoky dock]

er, like, how you're normally supposed to get it

[gaunt quail]

i just got it when i killed scourge

idk if i did a side thing

by accident

[smoky dock]

It doesn't drop as an item, you need to follow its corpse down and collect the skull itself

[gaunt quail]

oh ok

[gritty galleon]

how do i get this

[smoky dock]

I think it's crafted

Double click on the item

[gritty galleon]

no i cant craft it

wait its dropped from gnasher

whos gnasher

[smoky dock]

check the wiki

[somber orbit]

It's not a who, but a what. It's an enemy

[gritty galleon]

i dont give a shgit

[knotty tree]

does rogue keep up at all in masodeath for accessories? or is it not as like, feesible as the other classes for gear and stuff

[floral epoch]

sulphourous enemy

[random bloom]

is it just me or is infurnum a lot easier than death mode?
Death mode would usually take me 4 or 5 attempts to beat a boss, (pre DOG at least) but with infernum I'm beating em all with 1 or 2, and it doesn't feel close

[cinder timber]

have yall beaten astralgeldon on ragnarok difficulty

[random bloom]

Like the mod says it's more difficult than death mode, or at least more demanding, but I'm not finding it challenging.
I'm genuinely not trying to brag, I'm pointing this out in case I'm doing something wrong

Expert + Infernum, no special seeds, at least for my first run through

[ember dew]

Yea Infernum is for chumps fr

[indigo patio]

Yes

[neat nova]

it was harder than deathmode pre brainstorm

[random bloom]

Did brainstorm nerf infernum or something?

[indigo patio]

Personally I find infernum easier than death for 2 main reasons. 1 I have a shitton of experience it's moreso second nature and even revengance throws me off and I die way more.
2 I find infernum much much more intuitive to dodge. Everything is deterministic if you do x y happens. And almost all attacks are fairly well telegraphed.

[indigo patio]

They nerfed health and damage values to make them more in line with the base game. Which in turn made infernum harder.

[random bloom]

Not to mention infurnum only goes up to expert difficulty for some reason

[indigo patio]

That's intentional.

[random bloom]

right, but I have no clue what the reason is

[limber solar]

anyone knows why my solyn does little damage when fighting mars?

[indigo patio]

Well calamity faced the problem of having to balance scaling for 3 different (technically 8? since you could enable revengance death and then malice on legendary) difficulties. Which made master just stat bloat and classic way too easy. Technically that's still the case. Just way less variables. Infernum balanced around 1. That being expert. It's not that you can't. Infernal eclipse of Ragnarok proves that. It's just not balanced for it.

Or at least that's my understanding.

[random bloom]

True enough, though I would prefer stat bloat to nothing

[indigo patio]

Legendary on the other hand does actually break infernum AI. Due to the way vanilla bosses are hard coded or something.

[random bloom]

Legendary?

as in for the worthy?

[indigo patio]

Yes

[random bloom]

I was under the assumption that infernum doesn't allow the for the worthy seed

[indigo patio]

Yeah for the reason mentioned above

[mild cove]

chud gaming

[indigo patio]

8 minutes? What are you doing hitting her with a fish?

[mild cove]

hitting her with a really strong fish every 10 seconds or so

[indigo patio]

Not strong enough.

[mild cove]

clearly

[knotty tree]

hit that thing with the finch instead imo, goated gamer weapon

[granite mulch]

need to hear the whole soundtrack trust

[neat nova]

nah just made death actually differ from revengance

before death was basically just 1.5x boss stats

thats it

[atomic berry]

does wrath of the god and hunt of the old god still work

and do they work together

[gaunt quail]

yeah its pretty easy until post ml

i recommend scaling bosses

[random bloom]

What do ya mean?

[gaunt quail]

scaling up boss hp and damage

i do both by 1.5x

you can do that with fargos mutant

does anyone know why infernum dog music doesnt play

[random bloom]

ooh ok, I'll find a mod that does that. I don't really like fargo's mutant mod

[gaunt quail]

i dont think there is one

that works

outside of mutant

[random bloom]

hmmm
lame

I'll just finish up infurnum and try the new death mode

[atomic berry]

??

[humble marlin]

yes to both

[atomic berry]

peak!

[humble marlin]

for the future make sure to read mod descriptions, most of the big ones list their mod conflicts/synergies

[mild cove]

are tainted weapons considered true melee? the wiki says so but the stat meter doesn't

[gritty galleon]

i love how almost all my set is full black red

[cunning verge]

should I download both wrath of the gods and wrath of the machines?

[gaunt quail]

i think so

[gritty galleon]

yea why not

DAYUMM

[gritty galleon]

even your character also moving their hands with the teeth

im in love with this weapon

[harsh cradle]

i lost solyn flag, how do i get it back?

[cinder timber]

dude how ive been trying with 2 of my friends we cant

impossible

[elder nebula]

craft

[gritty galleon]

wotg is not a multiplayer mod

wait

mb

[harsh cradle]

thanks, didn't know it had recipe

[cunning verge]

well, I got infernum, wrath of the gods, and wrath of the machines installed. anything else I should get?

[gritty galleon]

hunt of the old god

catalyst

[cunning verge]

alr

[harsh cradle]

i can hear my char moving while stargazing, but after that my char freeze and i cannot do anything, please help

nvm save n exit work fine

[cunning verge]

nice house

[harsh cradle]

thanks

[cunning verge]

does fargos mutant mod break infernum?

[harsh cradle]

i dont think so

[little steppe]

nah

fargos souls do break it

but mutant is fine

[harsh cradle]

yeah mutant only add some qol

[cunning verge]

okay good to know

[little steppe]

if it doesnt change boss ai it likely works with infernum

[harsh cradle]

does Wrath of the Machine only revamp the Exo Mech fight? or does it add something else?

[elder nebula]

just the fight

[harsh cradle]

is it okay if i add it mid playthrough?

[elder nebula]

yeah

[harsh cradle]

aight thanks

[ebon light]

which mech is the easiest on inf?

i just entered hm and im struggling with every boss avaiable :(

[gritty parcel]

Does anyone know how to play wrath of the gods multiplayer?

[elder nebula]

sprime

[gritty galleon]

you cant

and you should not

[gritty parcel]

Why?

I’ve seen people do it before

[gritty galleon]

way worse expirience

[vocal shard]

what ranger weapon should i use against plaguebringer

[gritty galleon]

use stynger

[vocal shard]

stinger kinda sucks tho

last time i used it at least

[gritty galleon]

very good damage
decent projectyle speed (and easy to aim cuz plaguebringer is fat)
exploding shrapnel almost always getting all hits on plaguebringer
easily demolish little plague bees

you should even use it against cultist bro

stynger is peak

[vocal shard]

aight ill trust

but only for plaguebringer

im playin modded i wanna use modded for the most part

[gritty galleon]

ok

[night fractal]

Stynger is gonna get it's dmg halved soon

bc it's bugged to hit twice

so that being fixed will stop that

[gritty galleon]

sad

[vocal shard]

i made that old money farm for vanila, and upgraded it using battle + zerg potion

and now im getting 5 plat every like... 15 seconds

[finite shore]

Hi i wwnt to sleep so i didnt rrspond

[gritty galleon]

k

[languid mist]

how strong is the interstellar volution in terms of progression?

[gritty galleon]

dam

i killed eol and fucking died to stardust pillar enemy while the death animation

[blissful portal]

can anyone help me with WOTG i can't do my quest after fight ceaseless void

i tries to skip day to talk with solyn but it just didn't work

[clever pendant]

Hey, aaahhh why happen if Cryogen is enragé?

[jagged pilot]

did you repair the telescope

[blissful portal]

i do

i get the first seed

[clever pendant]

I think my arena for Cryogen suck

[dull olive]

why isnt solyn spawning

i js killed skeletron

[blissful portal]

maybe it after wof

somtime it be like that

[jagged pilot]

replace the flag a bit further away

its obstructed

[jagged pilot]

use dragonlens to fix it ig

[dull olive]

use what?

[jagged pilot]

no, skel

[jagged pilot]

cheat mod

[dull olive]

does hero work?

[jagged pilot]

yess

[blissful portal]

mine is after wof solyn spawn

[jagged pilot]

i think

[blissful portal]

i will tries

[jagged pilot]

that's... not how it's supposed to be lol

[clever pendant]

Do i need a bigger arena for Cryogen?

[dull olive]

worked

[jagged pilot]

great

[dull olive]

ty gang

[blissful portal]

idk

[twilit granite]

anyone here played infernal eclipse of ragnarok?

I heard it updated recently so should I play that instead of base infernum??

[blissful portal]

still not working

[blissful portal]

i mean for me i think infernum+WOTG+HOTOG is better for me my pc can't handle infernal eclipse of ragnarok it use MANY MANY ram

[gritty galleon]

10 hours to get to post ml wowowwo

ok ima go to sleep now

bye

[twilit granite]

Infernum + those gods mods and guzma stuff right u mean?

[jagged pilot]

did you fix the telescope or not

[blissful portal]

yes

[jagged pilot]

gn

[blissful portal]

yes

[jagged pilot]

and what doesn't work

[blissful portal]

i can't get caeseless void seed

[jagged pilot]

beat ceaseless again idk

[blissful portal]

and i think calamity entropy worth checking out

[blissful portal]

ok

[vocal shard]

why is this youtube video guide suggesting i use the phantasm

[fading dove]

phantasm is very strong

[vocal shard]

the phantasm has lower damage and shoots slower than my plague tainted smg

[fading dove]

however, the loadout is highly outdated

[fading dove]

it also fires 4 arrows and hitting with those arrows fires another arrow each

[vocal shard]

ahhhh

what arrow should i use

[fading dove]

i forget

but yeah don't actually use this guy's guides he sucks ass at making them

from his 2.1 melee guide

also from his 2.1 melee guide

[elder nebula]

😭 😭 😭

[vocal shard]

lmao aight

just hard tyo know whats good when, and the class guides in the wiki doesnt like, tell you what to actually use, its just like "heres 15 different weapons to use at this stage"

[fading dove]

wiki is also outdated

[elder nebula]

the wiki gives you a starting point to develop your own build that works for you

unfortunately, thinking is required to play video games

[fading dove]

but is usually the best source due to having been done by many people who know how to do this
its not gonna be amazing, but no guide is gonna be perfect for you

[vocal shard]

but when theres like 9 other guns at that stage that arent mentioned ANYWHERE except in the patch notes for being added?

[elder nebula]

talk to the guide

[blissful portal]

for my personal i craft every carftable at that stage an use what i feel the best for me

[fading dove]

the 2.1 summoner guide

[elder nebula]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[fading dove]

this is implying that reaper tooth necklace is as viable as the sponge

oh yeah it also doesn't list summon quantities

[elder nebula]

and that yharim's gift is viable at all

[fading dove]

i feel like even if yharim's gift had gotten buffed to like 20 in all stats itd still not be good

[elder nebula]

yeah it's just the accessory equivalent of a moldy burrito

[fading dove]

i genuinely dont think he changed the accessories for ranger considering im not seeing sniper scope

no sniper scope and no AFR what the fuck is this dude on

also doesnt recommend grape beer

is this the easiest content farm EVER????

[blissful portal]

still don't work

[fading dove]

but if you close your eyes

[vocal shard]

hydrothermic or lunic corps armor

[fading dove]

depends on if you want damage or bulk

[vocal shard]

dmage

[fading dove]

plague reaper with using the ability during rippers

[clever pendant]

Fffuuucccckkki 30% for Cryogen, but the Weird looking ice fish attack kill me

[blissful portal]

for cryogen u have to get use to it

[clever pendant]

I hate cryogen

[blissful portal]

lmao

[fading dove]

does it almost feel like nothing changed at all

[blissful portal]

who doesn't

[fading dove]

infernum im guessing

here's a tip: pretend its skeletron part 2

[clever pendant]

Mmmhhh then, i think my arena is too small, but my boreal biom is too small then

[blissful portal]

yea i get use to it

cryogen in infernum i think it a get use to it boss like

[merry harness]

nah there is a change, they added the community

[quasi smelt]

I just realised, people who play with infinite ammo from QoL mods, are the same people who don't count ammo in DnD

[tawny sphinx]

hi guys maybe someone know why there's can't be a recipe for a desert medalion?

[quasi smelt]

wdym, you have all the ingredients and it doesn't show up?

[tawny sphinx]

no

one second

that stuff

saying that

it's missing

like, deleted

and there's no other recipes for medalion

[quasi smelt]

I mean you need Sand, antlion mandibles and stormlion mandibles and Demon/Crimson Altar

[quasi smelt]

Okay, I have no idea what that is. What other mods are you using?

[tawny sphinx]

im getting this thing instead of previous pic

[tawny sphinx]

gimme a sec

[spring moon]

How WoTG working with Ragnarok and infernum mod?

[merry harness]

wotg works fine with infernum, no idea about ragnarok

[quasi smelt]

Okay, can't help you myself, but at least it should aid others in making it easier.

[spring moon]

[merry harness]

can u go in game and press f8 twice

its hard to read ur mod list from just the picture

[tawny sphinx]

ight

[merry harness]

are these called electrocells

[tawny sphinx]

yes

[merry harness]

yeah u got calamity fables

[tawny sphinx]

that's the reason?

[merry harness]

its not meant to be played with calamity mod

[shadow hamlet]

Calamity overhaul....

[tawny sphinx]

oh dam

[merry harness]

its is own standalone recreation of it kinda

[tawny sphinx]

yea i heard smth like that

[merry harness]

for instance, it has a different way to summon desert scourge

so its clashing with calamity

[tawny sphinx]

dam

alr thanks sm

<3

[cobalt basin]

oh hey

[empty sage]

terramap doesn't work for my infernum for the worthy run. why?

[frigid sail]

whats a good melee weapon for slime god on infernum?

[vocal shard]

what gun should i go for immediatley after moon lord

or ranged weapon in general

[fading dove]

dark lance

[fading dove]

superradiant slaughterer

[frank mauve]

shredder been op this update

[shadow hamlet]

Astral annihilation is good with wooden arrows

[frigid sail]

what other weapons could i use?

[empty sage]

any pre skeletron weapon or combat wrench

[cobalt basin]

solyn's tent

[vocal shard]

phantasm with sprouting arrows is doing better than any of the above recomendations, but only by a little

[frank mauve]

whats the dps on it

[shadow hamlet]

What's your build?

[vocal shard]

~13k with the phantasm, about 11k with the shredder, astral annihilation is about 9-10k

[frank mauve]

13k

[vocal shard]

not reforged

[frank mauve]

u can get like 25k with shredder or planetary annihilation

[vocal shard]

how? i mean im even using the intergalactic armor from catalyst, which is notoriously unballanced armor

[frank mauve]

get daawnlight

[vocal shard]

i need higher than 100% crit chance

how would i boost it

[frank mauve]

full lucky + eye of golem and sniper scope should give a buncha crit

[vocal shard]

sitting at 79 base now

[languid inlet]

any recommended setups for dog infernum as a melee?

[frank mauve]

whats ur loadout

[languid inlet]

im still farming rn but i was thinking of getting the omega blue armor

[jagged pilot]

it begins...

[frank mauve]

yeah u should its really good

[languid inlet]

these are my acc right now im obv gonna replace the belt with the aegis

[cobalt basin]

O_O

[languid inlet]

and i was thinking to put deus's skin or the banner in case i should use a true melee weapon

but honestly i wouldnt know which weapon to use

last time i fought dog it was in expert revengeance and it was like a looong time ago

[jagged pilot]

whats your progression rn

[frank mauve]

elysian aegis over ninja belt, bloodflare core over ampoule, arc flash ring over celestial shell and amalg brain over absorber

[languid inlet]

i see i'll try that out

you also got any weapon recommendations?

[frank mauve]

death ascension

really good

[languid inlet]

ok thanks a lot

[frank mauve]

u can also drink moonshine

[cobalt basin]

post skeletron

[jagged pilot]

oh ok ok

[blissful portal]

that me tho

but still can't get ceaseless void seed

after beat it 3 times

[lyric heron]

right

[fading dove]

i'd recommend swapping out dimensional soul artifact for the sponge

[lyric heron]

btw ik this is unrelated af, but does the astral biome block golem spawn?

[fading dove]

it shouldn;t

oh ice golems

uhhh

[lyric heron]

cus i havent been able to do any of the fargos bosses

SPECIFICALLY because of that

[fading dove]

iirc astral snow does spawn snow biome mobs

i remember testing pretty recently and was getting ice claspers

[lyric heron]

i havent seen a single ice golem

[fading dove]

you can always spray it with green solution to turn it back to standard

[lyric heron]

maybe if i had the arch wizard soul i could take down exo on mage

[lyric heron]

imma give that a try

btw whats the tainted orderbringer?

[lyric heron]

wait but thats an enchantment

[jagged pilot]

yes

[lyric heron]

cant you only do that after calamitas?

[jagged pilot]

yes

scal gives enchants

[lyric heron]

then i cant use tainted orderbringer for the exomechs fight....

[jagged pilot]

beat scal first bro?

[lyric heron]

aint that harder?

[jagged pilot]

no

[fading dove]

its just basecal scal but she hits a bit harder and is a bit healthier

[lyric heron]

bruhhhhhh 😭

i had no idea

guess im giving eternity revengeance another try

[jagged pilot]

good luck

[lyric heron]

i got up to exo mechs and decided it was too hard from there

[jagged pilot]

@cobalt basin how's it going

[cobalt basin]

I've got college

[jagged pilot]

bummer

calamity awaits you

[cobalt basin]

I'm not even going to speedrun progression

I killed skeletron for wiring

[jagged pilot]

ah

[vernal bloom]

this fight is actually pretty difficult on master

[harsh drum]

What do i use against desert scourge on infernum as true melee?

[lyric heron]

okay yeah scal was definitely easier than exo mechs on eternity revengeance

[harsh drum]

ngl scal is a pretty easy boss overall, on eternity idk

what even changes on eternity?

and how is it compatible with calamity

[lyric heron]

no clue

but question is

what weapon do i use for exo mechs as mage

[obtuse elbow]

you use multiple

[frank mauve]

void vortex the looong way

[lyric heron]

thats what ive tried using

[obtuse elbow]

yharim's crystal for Ares
the book from primordial wyrm for arthemis and apollo
and the eye from wyrm for Thanatos

[frank mauve]

well are u on inf

[lyric heron]

inf as in infernum?

[obtuse elbow]

yes

[lyric heron]

nope

eternity revengeance

[frank mauve]

then no wyrm weapons :(

[lyric heron]

oof

[frank mauve]

theres the wand, helium flash and void vortex

[obtuse elbow]

sad, you still get to use yharim's crystal tho

[frank mauve]

aetherflux cannon got buffed i think so its decent

[obtuse elbow]

my first time playing cal and i rly did defeat Scal first

over exo mechs

[frank mauve]

did u get shattered community

and put oblatory enchant on ur weapons

[obtuse elbow]

I was.playing summoner

so no good enchantments

[frank mauve]

hellbound is fine now ig

[lyric heron]

no idea what that is or the oblatory enchant

[frank mauve]

u have the scal npc right

[dense ocean]

It's the Exhumed version of Community.

[lyric heron]

yeah

[frank mauve]

then get community and exhume it with scal

[obtuse elbow]

and i forgot about shattered community, i had catalyst too so i focused on the exhumed whip

[obtuse elbow]

cuz the exhumed whip is awesome

[lyric heron]

damn wtf i didnt know abt this

alrighty got shattered community

[frank mauve]

now

get EVERY mage weapon u have and put oblatory

[lyric heron]

what if i only use the void vortex?

[frank mauve]

oblatory void vortex it is

[lyric heron]

oooooh

also what do i replace shattered community for with?

[frank mauve]

dsr

u could replace radiance with scomm aswell

doubt radiance is that useful against exos

[lyric heron]

scomm?

[frank mauve]

shortened shattered community

[lyric heron]

ah

so dsr or radiance?

[frank mauve]

prob radiance cuz i love dsr

[harsh drum]

exo mechs is litteraly what makes scal easier

draedon's chair

[frank mauve]

exo box bad 👎

[steep cobalt]

bluh

[jagged pilot]

bluh

[twilit hill]

dont get hit

[steep cobalt]

or make him atrophy in pain with debuffs

[twilit hill]

literally doing a infernum nohit playthrough rn

[steep cobalt]

slow cooked to perfection

[twilit hill]

dont get hit is all that i can offer

[jagged pilot]

@quasi venture send your modlist, press f8 twice ingame

[quasi venture]

wai

[steep cobalt]

pre brainstorm but eh

[twilit hill]

FLOWER BOOTS???

[steep cobalt]

yeah

[twilit hill]

why??

[steep cobalt]

the fairies grant defense and life regen

although my mobility is a bit more languid

[twilit hill]

you need mobility to beat prime bro

[steep cobalt]

though i'm still spry enough to catch up my targets

[steep cobalt]

actually, nah

[twilit hill]

hand circles

[quasi venture]

here

[steep cobalt]

phase 1 is a pushover

phase 2 is

uhhhhhhhhhh

[twilit hill]

he has a guardian phase too btw

[steep cobalt]

i frogot

[jagged pilot]

first of all uninstall boss checklist

[quasi venture]

why?

[steep cobalt]

wait masodeath or infernum?

[jagged pilot]

buggy

[quasi venture]

ok?

[steep cobalt]

this is really befuddling me

[twilit hill]

masodeath

[steep cobalt]

ah

then yeah i guess you're partially correct

though my assertion over leaning towards defense still stands

[quasi venture]

sth else?

[twilit hill]

is this your first mech boss

[steep cobalt]

the bulk of your damage lies in debuffs anyways so going for a tanky build is more effective

oh and you must be an impetuous fool to die to the guardian phase

[quasi venture]

still doesnt work

[twilit hill]

i never do

[jagged pilot]

disable weaponout lite and see if it helps

[twilit hill]

anyway all things considered prime is like the easiest maso death mech boss

[steep cobalt]

...oh wait i died to regular skeletron's guardian phase twice by ducking below him

[quasi venture]

k

[steep cobalt]

fuck

[quasi venture]

no

[jagged pilot]

welp idk turn off all mods besides wotg then 😭 idk how to help other than figuring out if its a conflict with another mod

[twilit hill]

pointshop

disable point shop

[jagged pilot]

oh i didnt even notice pointshop

[twilit hill]

that thing is EXTREMELY buggy

[quasi venture]

ok

[short basin]

Is it normal that infernum+wotg makes my game go at 40 fps?

[quasi venture]

THX SO MUCH

[jagged pilot]

good luck bro

[quasi venture]

i need it

is this good (melee) ?

[short basin]

Warbanner of the sun

[quasi venture]

for what?

[short basin]

Melee dmg

And other things i can't remember rn

[quasi venture]

i mean what should i replayce with

[short basin]

Good question XD

[steep cobalt]

fine enough

[short basin]

Gives a dmg boost based on how close you are to enemies

[steep cobalt]

nothing to change here

[jagged pilot]

give it a try

[steep cobalt]

i guess

[quasi venture]

ye

[jagged pilot]

the fight is more about learning the patterns and dodging tbh

[quasi venture]

these weapons good exca is tainted

[jagged pilot]

use tainted orderbringer

[quasi venture]

it is that

[jagged pilot]

or earth is good too

[jagged pilot]

good

[quasi venture]

alr

[jagged pilot]

what mount do you have

[quasi venture]

exo

[jagged pilot]

aight

good luck

dont get frustrated

[quasi venture]

alr

[jagged pilot]

and enjoy the music hehe

[quasi venture]

died after 5 sec 🥹

[jagged pilot]

xd

[quasi venture]

should i rely on mount or wings?

[jagged pilot]

wings

[quasi venture]

ok

[jagged pilot]

mount only for some precise pattern attacks

do you have rod?

[quasi venture]

i got this thing

[jagged pilot]

i guess that works too

but it has cooldown right

[quasi venture]

yeah

[jagged pilot]

you should get rod of harmony if you struggle

during some attacks js rodding around helps

but its doable like this too

[quasi venture]

i can get before nameless?

[twilit hill]

yeah sure....

lets go with that

[quasi venture]

bruh

[jagged pilot]

yah its post scal

[quasi venture]

oh

i thought because cal made post scal wotg made it post nameless ._.

wouldve been useful for AoE

[jagged pilot]

xd yep

[quasi venture]

i have a idea 😈

[jagged pilot]

go ahead

[quasi venture]

UH

[jagged pilot]

xd

[gloomy shadow]

Am I interrupting if I ask for support right now?

[quasi venture]

that aint a good idea