calamity-addon-talk

[vapid berry]

HOLY SHIT

HOLY SHIT

IM HYPERVENTILATING RN

[merry harness]

what do i do about the brainstorm abyss lighting in infernum?

[vapid berry]

i exhume void eater marionette right

[night fractal]

same thing as normal, use lighting gear or get thermal/abyss torches

[merry harness]

hows my infernum dog setup looking

[fading dove]

ampoule

devihms

[frank mauve]

ampoule doing lots of work

that extra (+0) regen is carrying

[merry harness]

what should i replace it for?

[frank mauve]

u could get away by using bloodflare core and moonshine

[fading dove]

class stat stick 2 probably

[merry harness]

celestial shell

[frank mauve]

affliction and gauntlet are enough dmg ig

[frank mauve]

hell no

[gaunt quail]

wait thats an incredible emoji

[fading dove]

cshell is worse than the community

[merry harness]

arc flash ring

or evolution

[gaunt quail]

why slander community

its good at the point hes in

[frank mauve]

arc flash ring for sure

[merry harness]

actually maybe warbanner of rightous

[fading dove]

its not

[gaunt quail]

it gives like

80% of the stats

90%

[humble marlin]

community is only good when you break it

[ember dew]

Cshell is terrible bro

[fading dove]

its domain only expanded a lil backwards into postml thanks to cshell getting nerfed

[gaunt quail]

propaganda

community is not bad

i mean

its terrible pre ml

[humble marlin]

its mediocre at best

[gaunt quail]

but like

late game

it becomes rly good

i think

[humble marlin]

still mediocre

[gaunt quail]

no the stats it gives are good

when ur like

5 bosses left

[frank mauve]

its only good as a movement accessory

[fading dove]

post dog and post yharon you get too many batshit insane accessories to slot in community

[gaunt quail]

noo

[humble marlin]

when stuff like dsr/affliction/sponge/scom/dae heart, etc is not worth it

[ember dew]

Only time I ever use cshell is when I can use it in crafting something actually good

[frank mauve]

i used to use cshell for the debuffs reduction

[gaunt quail]

actually

yea

[frank mauve]

but they removed that

[gaunt quail]

i forgot

sponge exists

nvm

[gaunt quail]

affliction does nothing solo tho

which he is (i think)

[frank mauve]

it works solo

[humble marlin]

affliction works solo

[frank mauve]

u still get the stats

[humble marlin]

its great

[gaunt quail]

but community is better

no?

[humble marlin]

its not

[gaunt quail]

if solo

and at like

[fading dove]

nope

[gaunt quail]

dog

oh ok

[fading dove]

affliction is still better pre dog

[frank mauve]

affliction gives so much better bulk than com

[fading dove]

i love how community gives fucking

[night fractal]

affliction and com are like

[fading dove]

regen if your regen is negative

[night fractal]

The same but different

[fading dove]

and only 2

[gaunt quail]

3

[night fractal]

Affliction has better bulk

[fading dove]

3 post everything

[night fractal]

Community has better dmg and movement

[gaunt quail]

oh

nvm

[fading dove]

its literally 1hp/s between 14 and 42

but only if your regen is negative

[night fractal]

Real ones just profaned soul artifact or phantomic artifact though

[gaunt quail]

No real ones go 0 defensive items

[fading dove]

so it does absolutely nothing if you don't have a dot debuff on you

[gaunt quail]

wow

thats

useful

[frank mauve]

real ones don't play calamity at all

[gaunt quail]

noooo

if calamity addons werent limited by tmods dogshit backend

it would be the best game

[frank mauve]

real ones one shot every boss

[gaunt quail]

ye

always go all lucky

ive never used warding in my life

pussy shit

[humble marlin]

its been ages since ive done a solo run

i should soon but eh

[vapid berry]

i exhume my void eater marionette right

[steady basin]

first try infernum duke

lwk easier than vanilla

[vapid berry]

deadass

the sharks barely spawn compared to vanilla

[frank mauve]

ya

[vapid berry]

is cinders of lament worth it

[frank mauve]

is that the support one

[vapid berry]

it summons the brothers

[high mountain]

any tips for pyrogen? i cant even beat it on classic

this comes right after beating infernum brimstone elemental

maybe i should overgear for it

im post 2 mechs rn

[stark orbit]

intergeltic or godslayer better?

[high mountain]

i used intergelactic until i made auric tesla

[stark orbit]

ah okay

ill skip godslayer armor

also is it normal that starfleet the star ammo ranger weapon, absolutely shreds DoG? or my calamity tweakin

[frank mauve]

use god slayer

[blissful fulcrum]

does infernum force-create a large world ?

[nimble wing]

No?

[blissful fulcrum]

just realised my world is large and when trying to create a new one its being set to large even when having medium selected

[ember dew]

I think Infernum forces large

[nimble wing]

No it doesn’t

[frank mauve]

i play medium all the time and never happened

[woeful hamlet]

guys am i stupid or is my empress bugged im beating her on infernum day time she wont drop the terraprisma

[ember dew]

Well then -2

[blissful fulcrum]

weirdd

it wont let me make a medium world with infernum enabled

[frank mauve]

bugged

[woeful hamlet]

well then cheat sheet it is

[frank mauve]

u can fight her on rev

[woeful hamlet]

eh would be faster to just spawn it

already beat her on infernum i dont see a point beating her on rev

[supple mica]

The drop is bugged on Infernum.

[woeful hamlet]

oh

[supple mica]

You can cheat it in.

[woeful hamlet]

yeah just did xd

[fading dove]

depends on the class

actually im pretty sure even bloodflare is better than all three of melee ranger and rogue

i know its better than rogue

[supple mica]

I can make Medium worlds on Infernum, so it isnt Inf that is restricting world size, must be somethin else.

I just tried right now to be sure.

[fading dove]

intergelactic rogue is a stepping stone between hydrothermic and empyrean

[high mountain]

mfw i go from cooking brimstone elemental on master infernum to being cooked by pyrogen on classic

[vapid berry]

anyone got tips for infernum exo mechs im going in blind

[high mountain]

dont die

[vapid berry]

ok

[vapid berry]

ares?
ok

2nd choice?

[nimble wing]

NO NO NO NO NO

That gif means DON’T do Ares solo

It is a horrible demon

[vapid berry]

so

i heard

[gusty ferry]

i always do ares+a&a

[vapid berry]

ares then thanatos?

[fading dove]

either hunters + ares or thanatos + ares, though thana + ares does lead to the hardest duo

actually hardest duo isnt exactly a very high bar

[merry harness]

how long is infernum dog fight meant to be?

[fading dove]

mnl is 1:40

[nimble wing]

Well yes, but Thana-Ares is fun and Artpollo-Ares is janky

[merry harness]

it doesnt felel right?

is this correct

[fading dove]

true thana-ares is probably the best duo even if it is the hardest

[merry harness]

i dont know if my setup is too op

[fading dove]

i dont like how it forces a shield slam though

unless you can somehow butcher ares so that you dont see attack 2

[nimble wing]

Does it matter? Thana solo requires a ram too

[gusty ferry]

yeah

[fading dove]

devihms

it doesnt

thana is genuinely lobotomised

[gusty ferry]

(could still be a lot faster )

[nimble wing]

Weeeeeeell maybe new void sash can do it

[fading dove]

default dash can coil

[nimble wing]

I don’t want to consider coiling 🥀

[merry harness]

well i have heard alot about infernum dog

and i saw people have like 100 attempts or smth

[fading dove]

supposedly ares' phaseslayer slams are nerfed if you dont have a shield slam

iirc

[nimble wing]

That’s a nice argument, Senator. Why don’t you back it up with the source code?

[gusty ferry]

just insta kill thanatos with halibut cannon 💯

[fading dove]

i remember seeing it somewhere but i might just be mancala effecting this shit

[merry harness]

im a bit dissapointed because i do not feel any more skillful after that fight

which i thought was meant to be the case for infernum dog

[fading dove]

inf ares only has 7 attacks apparently

[night fractal]

This looks right

[royal cedar]

is there really even anything good to make post scal/exo

[steady basin]

whoever told me plaguebringer infernum is hard, youre lying

[fading dove]

it wasnt me

[merry harness]

Death pbg is harder

[fading dove]

she took me 52 attempts to nohit

[merry harness]

Fucking death pbg is so hard

[gloomy wedge]

Every postgame weapon and accessory

Demonshade Armor

[frank mauve]

easier than basecal lol

[fading dove]

fabsollian boss design........

[merry harness]

Infernum dog is mainly a reaction time boss right?

[gloomy wedge]

He’s a rhythm game with really poor syncing

[steady basin]

you mean vanilla scal?

[fading dove]

reaction time on the lower end, raw inputs and routing on the higher end

[merry harness]

Yeah I think my reaction time carried me but if I were to try and no hit it I would actually have to learn the boss

[high mountain]

does an infernum kill count as a death kill

[merry harness]

Because I did not feel like I learned it

[fading dove]

alright yeah this is a perfect way to describe it

[merry harness]

No

[steady basin]

guys is terraprisma locked behind daytime empress in infernum

[merry harness]

Also infernum is on reverence apparently even when on infernum mode of the world selecto

[steady basin]

cuz when i played vanilla calam it wasnt

[merry harness]

It used to be death

[nimble wing]

He is precisely the opposite of reaction-based and I don’t know what his relic is smoking

[nimble wing]

It was reverted to the vanilla method in 2.1

[steady basin]

alright nice

[merry harness]

I think this is just because it’s on expert

[steady basin]

so does it still have vanilla stats?

[fading dove]

once you've routed inf dog its just a test of how well you can manipulate dog into following the route
hell, i had a sudden development in my dog routing even at attempt 2550

[nimble wing]

It’s still nerfed, but less

[fading dove]

90 -> 68 damage

otherwise unchanged

[merry harness]

He does too little damage imo

The head is only a 2 shot and the head almost never hits you

The body and lasers should do half of ur hp

[nimble wing]

What do you mean it almost never hits? He’s constantly shoving it into you

[merry harness]

Yeah but you ram dash

[nimble wing]

It’s a difference of skill

If you can’t figure him out he punishes very fast and very hard

[merry harness]

I did find that

[steady basin]

guys is plaguebringer summon set better than spooky wood and tiki?

[fading dove]

iirc its just role compression

frees up an accessory slot

[supple mica]

Welp, some d00d is in the Remnants cord saying they stole one of his songs from another game/mod. Demanding compensation etc.

The internet do be internettin.

[fading dove]

as an offensive tool its slightly worse than spooky and as a defensive tool slightly worse than hydrothermic

but you don't have to run asgard's valor due to it having a built-in shield slam

[winter mirage]

anyone know the best melee weapon for avatar of emptiness since they changed melee recently

[fading dove]

tainted orderbringer iirc

[supple mica]

Yeah that's what Lowd said.

Scythe of the Old God probably good option too but obviously dependent on a couple things.

[steady basin]

so is it better than the other options?

[fading dove]

ive got no idea how earth does but i do know tainted orderbringer is so fucked up and evil

iirc gummy hammer is decent

[supple mica]

You got ole Goozma installed?

[fading dove]

ive got no idea how the balance of shadowspec melee is

[supple mica]

Shoot Im actually gonna try that, Scythe of Old God on WotG bosses. Cuz right now Nameless Deity has like 14m on Infernum and its a WHOLE lotta sponge.

[vapid berry]

dude

i actually dont get thanatos??

[supple mica]

Question is, what is the damage like of WotG bosses, is it just the HP that is massive? Or do they shred you too?

[vapid berry]

ares and the twins arew wayy easier

[nimble wing]

New Earth is ginormous, heals a lot, and gets a ~13min BR

[vapid berry]

anyone got tips for thanatos im summoner so cant use the yharon drop

[nimble wing]

I’d say that’s great!

[fading dove]

ok yeah use earth

[vapid berry]

scythe only get enhanced till you kill DoG

[nimble wing]

Oh and it’s cinema

I wouldn’t be so happy about it without that last part

[vapid berry]

oh wait old god is dif from abandoned mb

[frank mauve]

use old duke sentry and melt him

[lime laurel]

coonsidering mirroring my mage loadout but just with omega armor

so i can press 1 button

instead of swapping to it from vanity sets

adn i can dodge easier

[steep cobalt]

meow

[supple mica]

Yea I mean Goozma weapon. Cuz Goozma is like 4m or so HP, more reasonably in line with Exo and Scal. So I figure might be worth doing before Wrath content presently.

Like a stepping stone if you will! Ive also never tested Tainted Orderbringer esp on the rework.

[merry harness]

is absorber doing anything?

[vapid berry]

what r u figthing

[nimble wing]

Yharon is the only place you use GS armor or silva wings

[nimble wing]

Swap it for like, deific amulet or amalgam

What weapon

[vapid berry]

bruh

my game keeps freezing

mid exo fight

iw as doing great

[merry harness]

can you disable yharons fire background

[quasi smelt]

Old duke got munched by Avatar of emptyness

[lusty maple]

is ares' desperation phase cheesable with magic conch?

like artemis and apollo

or do i have to actually fight him😔😔

[proud hamlet]

It'll do that

[quasi smelt]

blesseth

[vapid berry]

bruh

my game froze again

[hollow dagger]

can someone tell me what are these?

potuons

potions*

[silent gyro]

could someone send a melee build for inf crabulon please and thank you

[vapid berry]

DUDE

[quasi smelt]

How the hell do you doge the queen slime attacks from Goozma

[fading dove]

purple haze, everclear, swiftness potion, crimson effigy, gravity normalizer, can't tell
soaring potion, bounding potion, wrath potion, tier 3 food buff, weightless candle, spiteful candle, bewitching table

[quasi smelt]

Okay nevermind, this crap ain't balanced for latest cal update

[smoky dock]

summoning potion

[smoky dock]

if you’re asking because you want to copy them, don’t

[frank mauve]

prikki did u see the exo twins tmelee clip

[smoky dock]

oh my god no

hit me

what happened

[frank mauve]

beauty

[smoky dock]

lmfao

[fading dove]

ngl this looks too janky i'd rather just throw violence

[smoky dock]

but it’s true melee

[frank mauve]

anything to save 5 seconds

[hollow dagger]

шы ше зщыышиду ещ пуе ьщку скшьыщт уаашпн?

[fading dove]

translator fail

[hollow dagger]

sorry

i meant is it possible to get more crimson effigy?

[smoky dock]

no

[silent gyro]

😼

[misty kindle]

why does my friends nameless deity bg looks like this

it's lowk annoying

[night fractal]

Monitor resolution

[misty kindle]

it wasn't like that earlier though

[languid inlet]

y'all got any set up tips for a true melee infernum playthrough (mostly setup cause im in pre hardmode rn and i'd like to know if there are any useful accessorie other than the classic melee ones)

[misty kindle]

he didn't change it

[supple mica]

So what is the issue, too bright or something?

Oh the cutoff I see.

Hmm... any zoom settings or anything toyed with?

[misty kindle]

his resolution and zoom are normal

[supple mica]

BetterZoom etc.

Yeah then I have no idea. Havent had that happen before.

[misty kindle]

also he checked and it's the same on all zooms

[supple mica]

Try restarting game?

[wet sandal]

is there a conflict between infernum and wrath of the gods? i completely forgot about having wotg installed until dog and now im supposed to have a solyn npc? tried killing wof and skeletron again, no luck

[dense ocean]

Solyn isn't a town NPC.

[wet sandal]

i read that she spawn by falling from the sky but there was no one fell ever since i killed skeletron/wof like 10 hours ago

[little steppe]

post dog and killed skele 10 hours ago?

damn...

[nimble wing]

I am a true melee guide incarnate

Ask me anything anytime, pretty much

[little steppe]

wrong youre a calamity fables npc

[nimble wing]

Right, hang on

[nimble wing]

I’m Sir Nautilus! Accept my duel…

[little steppe]

oh ok

[frank mauve]

if u win the duel u get a free true melee guide

[sterile wave]

is abyssal amulet still good for early game after the rework?

[little steppe]

I would like to say the same but I didnt play brainstorm yet

[languid inlet]

i mean i've already played infernum on normal melee, i just wanted to know if there are any differences in setups for the early game and especially if there are any viable weapon other than the crimtane ones

[little steppe]

I know nothing abt most reworks

😔

[frank mauve]

its stronger lol

[sterile wave]

yeah i also thought that too i js asked to make sure

[nimble wing]

Show your current build

[languid inlet]

i was thinking of running the eye of chtule first so i could roll with
feral claw
magiluminscence (or whatever its fucking called)
amphibian boots
shield of the eye
and a double jump

[languid inlet]

started the game like 2 hours ago so this is all i managed to get

i know this is shite dont worry

[nimble wing]

No that’s good actually

You could get a better bottle if you happen upon one

[little steppe]

in my first 2 hours I'm running around with no boots and at most iron armor

[languid inlet]

no pyramid so no sandstorm until i beat the scourge sadly

[fading dove]

platinum armour's the best you can actually get without selling your soul for ashadow

[sterile wave]

can i PLEASE get this amulet bro

[nimble wing]

Blood Butcherer and Rotted Fork are your big options here, yeah

[sterile wave]

does reaver shark still mine hellstone?

[fading dove]

no

[languid inlet]

i got really lucky and found a nymph so i got a metal detector to find valuables quickly

[nimble wing]

Oh wait I forgot Wulfrum Screwdriver

[little steppe]

did angler quest rewards change in any way

[nimble wing]

Get Screwdriver ASAP and fight DS with it for Saharas

[little steppe]

if not then pre boss hellstone might be still possible

[languid inlet]

saharas? sorry i havent played in a while whats that

[fading dove]

preboss hellstone is still a thing its just a lot more out of the way

sahara slicers

[languid inlet]

ooooo

i understand it now

[frank mauve]

or u could go straight to rotten fork

[sterile wave]

manee

[little steppe]

yeah I think its like 20 angler quests or smth

[frank mauve]

u can get hellstone from chests too no?

[little steppe]

I thought that was killed when crates were killed

idk I didnt memorize the changes so I dont trust any crate drop now

[languid ingot]

Can confirm my 2.1 generated world had it, not sure about 2.1.1

[quasi smelt]

ngl, infernum Supreme Calamitas is true to the superboss name, but so unfun

[little steppe]

DONT SNAIL REACT ME DOZE

[night fractal]

I hate discord

is it possible to turn off double tap react

[little steppe]

yeah

I forgor how

but you can

[night fractal]

yayyy I found ittt

[little steppe]

yayy

[night fractal]

no more evil snail :)

[merry harness]

[sterile wave]

bro ive been fishing for 10 years why cant i get this stupid amulet

[night fractal]

where are you fishing?

[sterile wave]

sulphorus sea

[night fractal]

there's no Amulet to catch there

Abyssal Amulet was reworked into sea spirit Amulet

and it's caught post DS in sunken sea

[sterile wave]

oh wait

[smoky dock]

i love my double tap react

[sterile wave]

sunken sea

..

[smoky dock]

i can lizard anything instantly

[sterile wave]

i keep mixing up sunken and sulphorus sea

[night fractal]

wait that's geniusss

[sterile wave]

well thats an hour of my life gone

[vapid berry]

I just beat her a few hours ago and it was pain now doing exo mechs and every time I die it doesn't feel as bad as dying to scal

[sterile wave]

doing scal before exo mechs has to be the worst experience ever

[graceful plaza]

Can Solyn from the wrath of gods not spawn if I enable the mod after Ive killed skeletron and wof on a world?

I killed both, its night and im on the surface but nothing

unless i have to wait?

[sterile wave]

i think u have to enable before making ur world

[graceful plaza]

well ty

[reef bone]

im pre wof masochist death summoner what enchantments/accessories should i use

[fading dove]

nekomi armour

upgrade boots

actually i'll just give you the best loadout

[hollow elbow]

Dude is it just me or is the Mutant from Fargo’s is more difficult than Exo Mechs and SCal?

With the dlc from fargos

On rev

As summoner

[fading dove]

yeah

boss that is meant to be hard on the hard difficulty is harder than the bosses not meant to be too hard

[steady basin]

does daytime empress not one hit in infernum?

[fading dove]

she does

[steady basin]

im fighting her rn im not dying immediately

[fading dove]

or at least is supposed to

[steady basin]

shes doing 200 dmg

[fading dove]

do keep in mind that she's bugged to not drop terraprisma

[steady basin]

so like

she doesnt drop it 100% of the time?

or not at all

[fading dove]

not at all

[steady basin]

aw

damn

[fading dove]

once you beat day empress its fine to cheat terraprisma in though

[steady basin]

yeah im gonna do that

[hollow elbow]

I feel like there’s gotta be a different optimal place for Terraprisma bc having night drop her is too good, and having day drop it makes it so that once you get it, you’re probably past where it’s most useful or good enough to make do with worse

[steady basin]

IM FIGHTING HER AT NOON WHY IS SHE NOT ONE HITTING ME

[fading dove]

her damage is prolly manually set

[hollow elbow]

I wouldnt be complaining

[steady basin]

im doing ts for challenge mate

[hollow elbow]

Oh yeah I forgot this challenge is infernum mostly

I would try relogging tbh

[sterile wave]

np

[smoky dock]

Use a nohit mod

Nycro’s Nohit Efficiency has a function that forces all hits to bypass on-hurt logic to just instantly kill you

[steady basin]

shows shes enraged

[steady basin]

no thats long

[smoky dock]

??

[steady basin]

also i wanna flex that i beat daytime infernum empress

[smoky dock]

wdym long

[ember dew]

💀

[steady basin]

the process is long

[smoky dock]

lmao???

[ember dew]

Don’t play calamity, takes too long

[smoky dock]

you click one button, restart the game, click another button, and you’re done

[steady basin]

yeah

process is long

[steady basin]

yeah but calamity is enjoyable

well thats debatable

but still

[smoky dock]

What the fuck

I genuinely don’t know what to say

It takes less than sixty seconds

[sterile wave]

when i try to take my coins out my piggybank they go straight back in??

whys this happening

[steady basin]

guys isnt it possible to fight yharon before moon lord

[ember dew]

Do u have a QoL mod that adds coin stacking? Or an item that does it?

[sterile wave]

what qol mods do that

does qol compendium do that

[ember dew]

Yes

[dense ocean]

You have an item that sends money to the piggybank.

[sterile wave]

oh

how do i remove that

[ember dew]

Check the config

[smoky dock]

go to the mod's config

[steady basin]

cuz dragonfolly is crafted with solar fragments and life alloys, and yharon is created with the drops from dragonfolly and life alloys

so you can fight yharon pre moon lord

[smoky dock]

correct i think

depends on the crafting station for the jungle dragon egg

if it's mythril anvil it's fine

[steady basin]

yeah its just mythril anvil and ancient manipulator you need

so its possible for someone to do infernum yharon pre moonlord

technically

[vapid berry]

what's the easiest infernum exo mech left for last

[smoky dock]

debatably A&A

[plucky gulch]

Does the Infernum Boss Rush pay out anything but the Rock?

[smoky dock]

no

[plucky gulch]

Righto. Trophy hall: Done.

[hollow elbow]

Ts so funny out of context

Frying me

[ember dew]

It hungers…

[reef bone]

bro how do i get spicy pepper

[tulip holly]

Infernum 2x Speed Empress of Light in 4 Deaths! I don’t like 2x speed no clue why I started this run…

[sterile wave]

ggs bro

illusionary night is so peak

[vestal gale]

is fargos souls dlc and calamity balanced? and is it even good?

[frank mauve]

yup

[fringe nebula]

i love accidentally hitting the eidolists while im righting the reaper shark

[ember dew]

id say its the best

and thats not opinionated

[vestal gale]

does it work well in multiplayer?

[ember dew]

yea

[fringe nebula]

surely breaking this is a good idea

rightttt

[ember dew]

surely

[fringe nebula]

definately wont spawn a boss

also where are the reaper sharks 😭

i need their teeth

for the omega blue armor

[merry harness]

u got better instincts then me, i thought it would drop the terminus

[fringe nebula]

lmao

i broke it the first time i saw it for funsies

oh theres a bobbit

its dead now

and some fish

its also dead

[left kite]

Guys I looked through solyns telescope and we looked at the big black hole thing she said huh and not I can’t move

[fringe nebula]

and my headphones disconnected for some reason

joy

yay a reaper shark is attacking

wish me luck 😭

YAY

and i got 7 so i only need to kill 1 more

oh the wrym is attacking me joy

and i died yay

almost 250 deaths

😭 😭

[blazing talon]

why is it showing death infernum on the top world and revengence infernum on the other one?

[vital mulch]

brainstorm changed infernum because death is now exclusive to master

[smoky dock]

^

infernum now no longer inherits death mode

[blazing talon]

oh so that's why the game felt so easy

I somehow tanked through perforators on my 2nd attempt as a summoner

first time fighting it

[smoky dock]

no the game also got easier overall

2.1.0 Calamity reduced the damage all bosses deal

Defensive stats were similarly nerfed across the board so defensive setups wouldn’t see much difference

But offensive strategies disproportionately benefit from the reduced damage of bosses and thus should fine the game easier

[quiet jacinth]

what weapons should i be using for melee on infern WoF

i have this rn as my armor/accessories

all have warding

[hybrid sigil]

anyone have any idea why I'm doing more dps with just endogenesis by itself instead with temporal umbrella and slime cane? like, 100k more. Is it just iframes on the dummy?

[smoky dock]

dummies are not a reliable metric for how effective a weapon is

Try fighting a boss using the weapons and guess how long it’d take to beat it. Use that kill time to decide what’s better

[smoky dock]

Knockback immunity is very important for inf WoF imo so I’d highly advise Obsidian Shield

As for weapon most of them work

[astral sparrow]

Does anyone know how this item works or how to use it?

[knotty coyote]

you just hold it

Like all the others luisafk buff items

[astral sparrow]

But the buff isn't showing up in the buff bar? Why isn't it showing up for me

[knotty coyote]

yup, it's not

it just works

[fading dove]

thats because it doesnt give you the buff

it gives you the vanilla effects of the buff and prevents you from getting the buff

meaning that it gives you melee speed and a shitton of movespeed

[astral sparrow]

ooh

[delicate sedge]

They do?

[astral sparrow]

thanks

[delicate sedge]

And i never used the powers

[fading dove]

which means it is objectively better than food buffs should actually be

and calamity is not balanced around that significant boost to melee and movespeed

[knotty coyote]

Isn't it the same effects as normal well fed ?

[delicate sedge]

The buff is nerfed in calamity

[knotty coyote]

Oh, didn't know that

[delicate sedge]

The power just gives you the vanilla version of it but in the form of stats instead of buffs

If it worked like the candles or campfire giving you the buff while you have it on i think the calamity nerf would affect it

[smoky dock]

if buff slots were a thing still then it'd be even funnier

[quiet jacinth]

we beat it

my friend and i

do yk whats good for pre mech boss

[smoky dock]

bladetongue

snagskitter pauldron

comet quasher

ooh mollusk armor

[lofty parrot]

hey everyone, i have one question, it seems that there is supposed to be a tent here alongside Solyn where i can put books but it seems it's invisible, does anyone know why?

[ember dew]

replace the flag

[languid vine]

guys what class should i choose? (NO ROUGE|RANGER)

for the best fargo maso-death playthrough

[frank lagoon]

whichever one you enjoy the most 🙂

[languid vine]

idk

[delicate furnace]

For Fargo's I'd say not to stick to one class

[languid vine]

oh

thats interesting

oh

one more question

is there fargo class setup guide?

i cant find any

only the calamity ones

[sullen galleon]

hows progress on the yharon resprite going?

[elder nebula]

not actively being worked on afaik

[sullen galleon]

zawg how long is that gonna take?

[elder nebula]

animation hell

[sterile wave]

is brain of confusion better than worm scarf? i just killed brain

[dense ocean]

Depends.

[lapis mural]

i have WotG in my modpack, does it interfere with maulers spawn?

i just tabbed in and it spawned nvm XD

[uneven hamlet]

How do I get herring staff

[elder nebula]

infernum?

[uneven hamlet]

Yes. I killed skeleton

[elder nebula]

catch a herring with a bug net

[uneven hamlet]

Where do I find a herring

[elder nebula]

in the abyss??

[uneven hamlet]

Sorry.

[pearl badge]

why do my summons just dissapear mid fight

it didnt do that before

its mad annoying

[elder nebula]

known bug

[pearl badge]

tough

so do i just thug it out

[elder nebula]

yeah

[neat basin]

Could someone tell me the reason and if there is a solution?

The barrier with the crystal is not visible.

[humble marlin]

what the hell

[sterile wave]

why does infernum feel so much easier now

[dense ocean]

You got better.

[quiet jacinth]

is there a way i can mix something from teh magic storage mod and the shimmer

[dense ocean]

I think it has an item for that.

[hybrid abyss]

she gets so tired that her tent falls asleep too i guess, is there anyway to access the tent to turn the books in? is this broken or have i just not progressed enough to see the tent?

[ember dew]

replace the flag

[lofty parrot]

i tried to replace the flag but, still no tent ;3;

[lofty parrot]

i'm having exactly the same issue lol

[hybrid abyss]

ill try moving the flag around i guess

[ember dew]

sorry make sure the space is at least 50 blocks

[wise thicket]

Astrageldon is one of those bosses that I wished I could enjoy, but is held back by too much damage

[lofty parrot]

got it, will try that

[ember dew]

could always use anti-tier lock

[wise thicket]

nah I prefer to fight it on-tier, but since Death is now forced on Master, it's dealing 295 per hit, which is nearly half my hp

I'm guessing Catalyst have yet to tweak the numbers

[ember dew]

i mean "on-tier" when it allows for post-providence weapons to be gained

[dense ocean]

You are not forced to play Death when playing Master.

[wise thicket]

you misread what I was saying

I'm on Death, and since Death is now on Master only

Astra will always have Master stats

in the past I've fought them on ExpDeath

[dense ocean]

Well they'd have Death stats, since it's its own difficulty.

[lofty parrot]

it seems that moving around the flagpole of Solynn isn't working for the tent to appear

[gaunt quail]

its an easy fight i think

except for the slam

its just very badly designed

that attack in specific*

[cedar laurel]

Evil and messed up damaging border and contact damage

[gaunt quail]

evil slam of doom thats actually a slide

[wise thicket]

also the fact it can only be summoned in the astral infection doesn't help

having to run back constantly after each death

[lofty parrot]

i'm guessing it must be another mod conflicting with the spawn of the tent?

[gaunt quail]

set your spawn there

u can also just use astral fountains no

[dense ocean]

Fountains don't change biome last I checked.

[gaunt quail]

they count as one

thats how I fought queen slime and eol

fuck making seperate arenas

[sterile wave]

whys solyns tent not there

[frank mauve]

thats a fargos mutant thing

also astral fountain doesnt work

[sterile wave]

do i have to fix her telescope first

[wise thicket]

there, finally killed it

[sterile wave]

i cant fix her telescope

ah wait nvm

[gaunt quail]

oh ok

[lofty parrot]

@sterile wave did you get the tent to spawn?

[sterile wave]

idk i just fixed her telescope

im not sure when her tents supposed to spawn

yeah no im pretty sure her tent should be here

but it isnt

[lofty parrot]

yeah, i'm having the same issue x'd

[sterile wave]

what mods do u have on

[lofty parrot]

apparently for some putting the flag on another place fixes the issue, but for me it keeps happening

[sterile wave]

let me try putting the flag somewhere else

oh its theren ow

but her telescopes gone

[lofty parrot]

hmmm

ohhh i got it to spawn

it seems that the issue was the mod better blending

[sterile wave]

her telescopes gone for me because i fixed it then put the pole somewhere else 😭

how do i get the telescope resetter item

[lofty parrot]

i think you have to get cheat sheet for that

hahaha

[sterile wave]

bruh

ill js do it and delete the mod

how are u unable to fix a bug so u just put a debug item bro 😭

ts pmo

[lofty parrot]

be careful with the debug thingy for that

i've heard it's kinda unstable

i would recommend just putting the flag pole on another place and make sure there are 50 blocks of flat space

as well no torchs above lol

[sterile wave]

whys ts not working

the telescope still aint there

bro how is the debug item for the bug not working wtf

[gentle dune]

Why do I have no music for the BoC fight? I am using calamity music mod, and the addon music mod. And calamity ofc

[sterile wave]

ok bro im just gonna play without a telescope

[magic tiger]

hey what's the best gun against the perferators/hive mind

[dusk shuttle]

is there issues with wrath of the gods in already existing worlds because ive already beaten scal and all that and i just loaded wrath of the gods but solyn wont show up

[magic tiger]

in infernum

[sterile wave]

u have to make a new world with wrath of the gods mod enabled

pretty sure its the same for every content mod too

[dusk shuttle]

so i cant do it in my already existing world ??

[sterile wave]

no u cant

[dusk shuttle]

are you sure i dont see why it wouldnt work i dont think wrath of the gods has any world gen changes

[sterile wave]

i mean u could try beating skeletron again i guess

but im pretty sure u have to make a new world

[magic tiger]

hey which one of these guns is good against the infernum perferator or hive mind?

I'm on ranger and Magic guns

[dusk shuttle]

dude just use different weapons and see what works for you😭

[smoky dock]

I can't tell which weapons those are

Attempt the fights and see what happens

It'll become really, really obvious if they're good or not if you do

[gentle dune]

Can anybody help with this?

[gaunt quail]

why does polter do 125 damage per projectile to me

I have 1 defense item

and I'm on mage

i have 800 hp

i expect to be crucified for my mistakes

[smoky dock]

two reasons

first one is that projectiles tend to be harder to avoid and more numerous than contact damage so they don't deal very much damage to compensate

[gaunt quail]

not providence apparently

[smoky dock]

second one is that calamity reduced the damage all bosses dealt in 2.1.0 so offensive strategies (such as yours, using only one defensive item) will find the game considerably easier

[gaunt quail]

even her night time projectiles do more

or

day time

[smoky dock]

are you playing infernum

[gaunt quail]

i forgot which one wasnt enraged

yes

[smoky dock]

providence doesn't deal contact damage

shrug

[gaunt quail]

i mean

i guess

yea

still feels like bosses do too little damage

[dusk shuttle]

where is solyn supposed to be after skeletron

[smoky dock]

re-entry

[dusk shuttle]

?

wdym

[smoky dock]

All bosses had their damage dealt reduced. No exception.

[gaunt quail]

yes ik

[frank mauve]

ngl scal dealing 150 dmg is funny

[gaunt quail]

i think it was kinda stupid

[dusk shuttle]

wdym re entry

[smoky dock]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_entry

[gaunt quail]

i mean

its scal

theres like

500 projectiles on your screen at all times

[smoky dock]

it was for a good reason

[gaunt quail]

so i can see scal

[frank mauve]

scal used to hit like a truck

[gaunt quail]

ye ik

[dusk shuttle]

so where is she 😭

[smoky dock]

currently in the atmosphere

[frank mauve]

now u can get hit 50 times in a row and be at 95% hp

[smoky dock]

hurtling down towards the earth

in atmospheric entry

[gaunt quail]

dont forget

u get like

5 revives

by the point u do scal

[dusk shuttle]

ok well will i atleast know when she lands

[gaunt quail]

i downloaded a mod to double boss hp

but like

it doesnt work on infernum

[frank mauve]

use fargos

use all stats scaled

[unkempt forum]

yo i used the double insta obsidian bridge from fargos and i think it destroyed my profane guardian temple place is there a way to fix this?

[gaunt quail]

bosses are too weak

[gaunt quail]

fargos what

theres a lot of fargos

[smoky dock]

Defensive strats were dumb and stupid and way too stupid overpowered in 2.0
To handle that, Calamity nerfed all defensive items globally. To prevent the boss fights from being too difficult and frustrating, they also reduced all boss damage. Defensive setups should now see no difference, but offensive setups should see the game easier

[smoky dock]

No. Use cheats or a world backup.

[smoky dock]

Fargo's Mutant Mod

[frank mauve]

mutant has a stat scaler

[smoky dock]

It has a health/damage slider function for bosses and enemies

[gaunt quail]

ok ill see

does it work on infernum

[frank mauve]

in confugs

[gaunt quail]

did u guys test

[smoky dock]

Calamity has one too, but it doesn't apply to Infernum properly

[dusk shuttle]

?

[gaunt quail]

boss dmg was completely fine

[frank mauve]

? x2

[gaunt quail]

like

i think

just defense nerf would've been good

[frank mauve]

x2 ?

yk what wouldve been good

[gaunt quail]

idk i explained myself in like

such a bad way

[smoky dock]

defense got like, turbo annihilated

[frank mauve]

make everything bad

and dont change bosses

[gaunt quail]

ye

[frank mauve]

then 90% of players complain

[gaunt quail]

nobody gaf

only i matter

[smoky dock]

it would be dead and gone and completely unusable if it got nerfed to the same degree without bosses getting their damage reduced

[frank mauve]

u can facetank exos wity only 160 defense funnily enough

[gaunt quail]

yea but bosses didnt even deal that much damage

[smoky dock]

Shrug

[gaunt quail]

so u could go tank to learn the bosses if u want

and do 0 dmg

in the process

[smoky dock]

you say that as if tank can't deal damage

[gaunt quail]

but be allowed to make more mistakes

[smoky dock]

my fastest killtimes use defensive setups

[gaunt quail]

?

[smoky dock]

Using defensive setups

[gaunt quail]

all you bro

[smoky dock]

I have provably defeated bosses

Faster

[gaunt quail]

how come

is there some ancient tech that im unaware of

that makes ur dmg scale off dfs

[frank mauve]

agression

[smoky dock]

Defensive setups mean I can play more aggressively to hit more often and with stronger hitboxes

[frank mauve]

aggression

[smoky dock]

I don't need to "dodge" or waste time "healing" if bosses are too weak to be a threat

[gaunt quail]

ig if u dont use homing weapons

or beams

[smoky dock]

Thus, I can use the strongest weapons in their strongest possible circumstances

[smoky dock]

Due to the way weapons are balanced, homing weapons are intended to be weaker than their counterparts

[gaunt quail]

ye obviously

[smoky dock]

For example, Chlorophyte rounds have the same base damage as Musket Balls

[frank mauve]

chlorobad bullets

[gaunt quail]

id still imagine someone who doesnt let go of m1 with full dmg setup

on a weapon thats instant

or homing

would do better

[smoky dock]

With a defensive setup I can use stronger ammunition, like Venom rounds and sit in front of the baddie for point-blank damage with zero downtime and perfect accuracy

[frank mauve]

unfortunately explosive bullets and grape beer mogs chlorophyte

[gaunt quail]

ranger is for chuds anyway

boring ass weapons

[smoky dock]

rang*r bad

[gaunt quail]

ye

exactly

[smoky dock]

anyways uhhh

here's an example

https://youtu.be/hBq7ucoy0v4

[gaunt quail]

i mea

[smoky dock]

https://youtu.be/QqIYl5OFu_4

[gaunt quail]

yeah

i guess so

[gaunt quail]

LOL

you just

[smoky dock]

https://youtu.be/0UAY_duVm00

[gaunt quail]

dgaf about the

beams

😭

ye maybe defense needed to get nerfed

[smoky dock]

this strat got a 0:42 by someone else

I didn't record it but I got a Moon Lord 0:49 in the exact same way

[gaunt quail]

facetanking dog

ok i get ur point

[smoky dock]

(eat damage with impunity and whack the hell out of him with the strongest weapons and hitboxes)

[gaunt quail]

these are really funny

[smoky dock]

you should watch the other videos they're deranged

[dusk shuttle]

dude literally where tf is solyn

[smoky dock]

she hasn't spawned yet
she will fall from the sky and land nearby when she does spawn

wander around on the surface

[gaunt quail]

yeah

i watched them

[gaunt quail]

this is like

such a chuddy strat

deadass ignoring everything

she didnt even go into her crystal form

[smoky dock]

yeah, this is why defense got nerfed

[gaunt quail]

by how much did

damage get nerfed

should i do 2x

[smoky dock]

there's a complete list of changes on the 2.1.0 changelogs

[frank mauve]

how about 0:22 dog with slagsplitter

[smoky dock]

is that a 2.1 time

[frank mauve]

that is a 2.1.1 time

[smoky dock]

but since defense subtracts damage and defense is your #1 source of survivability doubling damage bosses deal will be comparatively more than doubling the damage that you take...

if that makes sense

[gaunt quail]

1.5x seems fine

if i can do 1.5x

[smoky dock]

yeah personally whenever i bump stats up I raise health by ~2 times and damage by ~1.5x

[gaunt quail]

yeah

makes sense

[magic tiger]

dang this Wrath of the gods book was pretty rare

[fervent sky]

does anyone know why the special background doesnt stretch to the entire screen

[dense ocean]

Because you seem to have increased beyond base zoom.

[fervent sky]

it forces you to

[smoky dock]

dreadmines are viable on scal

sobber

[frank mauve]

bug

[limber solar]

HOW?

[rare egret]

im looking at the wiki for dialog i missed, apparently i can sit under the tree with solyn?

i went back there and i dont see it as an option and when ig et close enough to the tree the fight just kinda starts

[smoky dock]

toxic heart got nerfed

for a very, very good reason

that run sucked btw

someone else beat that time by over ten seconds kekw

[outer creek]

whats better for yharon cosmic shiv or deaths ascension

[frank mauve]

devil devastation with amalgam got a good time

[outer creek]

what should i swap for the amalgam

[frank mauve]

reaper necklace

[outer creek]

thanks

[oak thunder]

anyone else having problems with summons despawning?

[outer creek]

are you talking about the two dragons

[oak thunder]

no im using the ice chunk and my summons keep despawning whether mid fight or not

[outer creek]

try closing the entire game and reopening

[oak thunder]

its been happening for a few days

throughout multiple sessions

[outer creek]

then i dunno

[soft igloo]

i get summons despawning when teleporting a lot

[oak thunder]

as soon as you teleport or no

[soft igloo]

when i teleport to a pylon or smth

or teleport home

they just don't seem to follow

[oak thunder]

its been happening no matter the time for me

just disappearing

[soft igloo]

ah

[cedar hollow]

men 🤤

[soft igloo]

yo

[cedar hollow]

hi

[soft igloo]

objection relevance

[cedar hollow]

2

[frank mauve]

cuz of update

[soft igloo]

is there meant to be a question mark or is that a statement

that the update has caused issues

[cedar hollow]

nah

it's been like that

summons are just complete ass

https://youtube.com/shorts/f9EPmjrFwgU

[floral epoch]

im just having ram dash issue

holy fuck

[floral epoch]

ranger quite ass :v

[frank mauve]

whats the issue 🤔

aint nothing cinnamon roll cant fix

[floral epoch]

lack of timing

[frank mauve]

[floral epoch]

i need a weapon tbh...

monsoon with wooden arrows worked but

[frank mauve]

for dog?

[floral epoch]

yea

almost 20k

[frank mauve]

im looking at the times and monsoon looking like its the best

ig u could use pristine fury and coil

[floral epoch]

coil?

and pristine fury?

[frank mauve]

coil is when u make dog go around you in a circle

[floral epoch]

oh

[outer creek]

cant wait for the yardis blindfold run

[gusty ferry]

have you tried elysian arrows

[floral epoch]

no

[gusty ferry]

not sure if its still better after the update

[floral epoch]

it worked on polter

[outer creek]

do you need a good route

i found a really good one

[rare egret]

is there a way i can make a similar stairway to heaven at the end of wrath of the gods?

[fervent sky]

how do i fix the background not extending to all of my screen

or is there a way to stop it from forcing me to zoom out

[elder nebula]

there's a config to disable all the camera fuckery

[fervent sky]

in inferum?

yep i found it

thx

[outer creek]

in the yharon fight is it possible to turn off the bright ass background?

[fervent sky]

it didnt work

it only doesnt lock the camera now

but like

the zoom is still too much/the bg isnt enough

[cedar hollow]

false

[floral epoch]

nuh uh

[crisp crescent]

is there any mod that reworks murasama that isn’t overhaul cus overhaul sucks

[gaunt quail]

ur falling for the propaganda

overhaul is great

[crisp crescent]

The trials don’t even work for me

[floral epoch]

huh?

[elder nebula]

no, but the murasama is turbo overrated

use an actual good weapon

like galaxy smasher

[crisp crescent]

I’m new to calamity and I just think the murasama is cool I don’t care if its overrated

[gaunt quail]

it has aura

unfortunately its a reference to the worst mg game

[night fractal]

use Maw of Infinity it's cool too

[crisp crescent]

Ok

[outer creek]

devils devastation

[proud hamlet]

Oh yeah it's so cool

[magic tiger]

dude the star cannon is so good against the infernum perferator

[night fractal]

It's almost like it's entire gimmick is being really strong

but being horrific to get ammo for

[proud hamlet]

Alchemist mod:

[night fractal]

I mean that's objectively cheating balance

so yeah ofc the weapon is broken if you bypass balance lol

[proud hamlet]

100% is

[night fractal]

not that it's wrong to do that

however you find fun to play is good

[proud hamlet]

Ay flowers to those who run around the map only collecting stars

[inner peak]

whenever i try to activate the terminus in wrath of the gods this happens

[magic tiger]

I am using alchemist mod cuz i'm not interesting of grinding

[jaunty token]

yall why dis is happening

[vital mulch]

draedon has had enough