calamity-addon-talk

[digital nimbus]

Yeah

Oh you mean the enemy?

Enemy is fine you can kill it whenever

[fading dove]

eidolon wyrm is post polter
infernum primordial wyrm is between yharon and exos/scal

[upbeat geyser]

The wyrm is way harder than the shark tho

I mean he doesn’t drop anything usefull

[wicked creek]

Yeah, difficulty is not necessarily an indicator of the intended position

Eidolon wyrm and reaper shark are both minibosses at the same tier

Primordial wyrm is in between yharon and the last duo of bosses

[fading dove]

ive seen people use void edge a lot

[hollow dagger]

I turned it on already

[upbeat geyser]

I play ranged

[ember dew]

W

[hollow dagger]

can DoG be harder because i dodnt kill his 3 guys?

[fading dove]

still its a useful item it drops

[upbeat geyser]

Also is the maelstrom better than monsoon? I dont have enough teeth

[upbeat geyser]

How do you not kill his three guys

[gusty ferry]

you can skip them

[upbeat geyser]

Oh there’s another recipe

[dense eagle]

not that much

[frank mauve]

the 3 guys are filler

[hollow dagger]

I started a new world to play with wrath of gods

[upbeat geyser]

Why did they make them skipable?

[frank mauve]

filler useless bosses

[gusty ferry]

idk

[upbeat geyser]

I find them fun idk

[hollow dagger]

what is this green thing under my legs?

[gusty ferry]

running trails probably

from your boots

[hollow dagger]

i have no boots

[gusty ferry]

one of your accessory then

or potions(im saying shits)

[hollow dagger]

idk it just appeared once i joined

[wicked creek]

Do you have xyk's blessing

[solar crow]

oh my fucking god, exo mechs are too damn infuriating

[hollow dagger]

i had

[wicked creek]

There ya go

[hollow dagger]

i dont wear it rn

[wicked creek]

That still influences your dash and sprint particles I think

[wispy wasp]

should i use flowers of morality with tactical plague engine

[lime laurel]

flowers of mortality pretty good

why is inf yharom phase 1 so ass

no sound cue to cue his dash

his fat ass stands there for a saecond then dashes

[zealous narwhal]

its got a pattern you just gotta learn it

[lime laurel]

nice pattern now ill start dashing all over the place and sometimes hit you

[frank mauve]

its kinda predictable

but ur on a small screen too 🤔

[lime laurel]

yeah

if i can see him ez dubs

[frank mauve]

using overlapped map?

[lime laurel]

i have gotten to ressurection phase tho

so that counts for something

(im tanking every single fucking hit imaginable)

[lime laurel]

no

evrytime i use it

my focus is gone cause i cant see shit

is there a mod that mkaes it like

[zealous narwhal]

phase 2 is easier than phase 1 lowkey

[lime laurel]

a little more visible?

[frank mauve]

i feel like itd help with smaller screens

[lime laurel]

id honwstly be better off using a fullt colored overlapped map atp

[zealous narwhal]

if you're on a small screen you could maybe use better zoom to zoom out more?

[lime laurel]

me when i play 1/4th of my total screen for fps

but u got a point

kinda cheeating ish

since it kinda removss the niche challenge of it

but ill consider it as an option

if a fight is too difficult

[hollow dagger]

why tf DoG just changes his direction mid dashing

[lime laurel]

u prolly fucked up the rhythm

he can do that if you go in a slightly different direction

[hollow dagger]

it was all good i saw him changing the direction with my eyes

[lime laurel]

dont go to the side

imo its harder than doing his dash up and down

diagonal is a little tricky but its so good to recover and take control if dog is charging u from the top of the world

and can easily convert it to ram dashing up

[hollow dagger]

its easier to dash vertically but i have no much space to do it

[lime laurel]

make better arena

[hollow dagger]

wait no

i have

[quasi smelt]

Guess I ain't getting purity. Night Provi ios hell

[lime laurel]

my arena was a bit overkill ngl

id idnt use half of it

[hollow dagger]

but i can dash up

[lime laurel]

oh well

its useful for maybe exo mechs

[hollow dagger]

my arena looks like that

half in jungle for yaron

I just died when he was like 40%

my best try rn

ON 20 DAMN %

I just stuck in that pit

of my arena

or i just got a little nervous of such try

[tight fog]

we can agree that this specific attack has to be at least bottom 5 modded terraria attack patterns right

referring to infernum moon lord

[wicked creek]

I know the attack you mean and I don't think it's THAT bad

It does require specific positioning really fast (aka going far away enough from the border to have the cone be actually big enough) but it's still better than the fireball attack for example

[hollow dagger]

here is at least 2 bosses with this pattern

[tight fog]

fair enough

[tight fog]

in infernum?

[hollow dagger]

yes

[tight fog]

that fireball attack feels like the biggest middle finger to people who dont have their resolution above 1440p in all honesty

[wicked creek]

Not that I know of?

Only moonlord has an attack like it

[coarse acorn]

Cursed coffin is stupid

[wicked creek]

A shrinking cone of lasers with projectiles from another source I mean, not necessarily true eyes of Cthulhu

[coarse acorn]

Please I need help

I don’t know what to do

He does so much damage

[tight fog]

looking up an infernum moon lord no hit that doesnt involve adrenaline/rage phase skipping or rod of discord is impossible bro

yardis save me

[wicked creek]

What attack are you having issues with

[tight fog]

its the majority of the last phase tbh

and im doing yoyos only

[coarse acorn]

Does anyone have any advice please

I need help

[hollow dagger]

Golem also has attack like that

[tight fog]

i either have to minimize my already subpar dps to focus on dodging, or put most of my focus in looking at moon lord core's tiny hitbox to actually hit my attacks

[wicked creek]

Moon lord marks the beginning of a general upward trend in difficulty of bosses for infernum

There are some exceptions (dragonfolly, sentinels, primordial wyrm, arguably providence) but the other bosses after him are harder and harder

[tight fog]

fargo's?

[coarse acorn]

Yeah

Masochist death mode 😔

[wicked creek]

Eeeeh it lacks the projectiles from another source while doing the laser I'd say

[tight fog]

oh yea ive beaten infernum a few times before, im just used to having good enough dps to skip moon lord final phase 😭

[wicked creek]

Ah I see

[tight fog]

well not skip

[coarse acorn]

God I hate this why am I doing this it’s so hard

[tight fog]

just have the phase not last more than 90 seconds

[wicked creek]

For the challenge

[hollow dagger]

it does the laser only down not in other directions

[wicked creek]

I am doing a challenge run myself, though of base calamity

[coarse acorn]

Yeah I’m trying to get back to my old crackedness when I used to be goated at the game

[wicked creek]

Yeah, but the main difference is that moonlord has another eye that shoots projectiles while the cone shrinks

Which is what makes it much more difficult

While golem doesn't have that iirc

[tight fog]

infernum moon lord makes me wish i was fighting masochist moon lord instead 🥹

eternity/masochist moon lord might be the only moon lord fight i actually enjoy

[frank mauve]

inf ml

[tight fog]

though i still at most times prefer infernum's bosses over masodeath calamity's bosses

people rightfully complain about infernum cal clone's rng factor but it's still one of my favorite calamity bosses

[hollow dagger]

114 tries on DoG

and 20% is my best yet

im so tired

btw does he have 2 faces?

[last narwhal]

How do I make dog coil

[fading dove]

intuition

[last narwhal]

I have 227 and my best is 13%

[hollow dagger]

Died on 14%

[hollow dagger]

whats that?

when he is circling?

if yes try to be closer to his head after u dodge the dash

[last narwhal]

do u dodge from him coming up and down or left and right

[hollow dagger]

I do both methods

when he is coming from right or left i dodge vertically

when he is coming from up or down i dodge horizontally

[last narwhal]

I just died at 27 from being stupid

I always try to force him to dodge vertically

is that bad

also how much dps do you do I feel like my fights going longer than it should

[hollow dagger]

Died on +-20 because i forgot to recharge my flight

[last narwhal]

rip

[hollow dagger]

its not

[last narwhal]

is it worth completely demolishing my jungle I if I keep reaching the bottom of my arena

[hollow dagger]

idk how much dps i do but torus makes at least first phase really fast

[last narwhal]

Is there anything I need the above ground jungle for in post dog

[last narwhal]

how long did it take u to get to 20%

[hollow dagger]

2 minutes

if it shows my last try only

[wispy wasp]

what armor should i use as summoner pre polterghast

[hollow dagger]

does boss checklist connected to my character or world?

[ember dew]

i would totally play infernum if every single part of it was configurable

[hollow dagger]

blood something

[wispy wasp]

that isnt listed in the wiki tho

[digital nimbus]

When I zoom out beams stop rendering right uneless I'm super close to them how do I stop it?

[digital nimbus]

Stardust 1000%

[hollow dagger]

this one

[wispy wasp]

yeah

ik its bloodflare

[hollow dagger]

after u killing him after providence

[digital nimbus]

This is post polterghast

[last narwhal]

world I believe

[hollow dagger]

idk i killed polterghast after providence every time

[last narwhal]

polterghast is lwky the easiest boss as long as u do some arena prep

[wispy wasp]

is it tho

i get bloodstone from brimstone enemies

pre polterghast

[hollow dagger]

then use what u would use for providence i guess

i forgot how i killed providence

it was stardust i guess

[wispy wasp]

ah wait

im dumb

you need ruinous souls to craft bloodflare armor

[last narwhal]

U think once I finish clearing this out it will be good enough for dog

[digital nimbus]

Wth this is too big 😭😭

[hollow dagger]

isnt it small?

[digital nimbus]

Devourer is NOT that hard

[hollow dagger]

mine looks like that

[digital nimbus]

Also you're coiling aren't you? You barely need an arena for that

[last narwhal]

Its my first time playinh cal and im on infernum

[hollow dagger]

i try not to fall into the pit

[wispy wasp]

what summons should i use for the rune of kos bosses

[last narwhal]

nah I kinda js do bs and hope it works

[last narwhal]

those buildings r sick

[hollow dagger]

how do i coil his second phase?

[digital nimbus]

Enchanted axe

[last narwhal]

what I try to do for his second phase

[digital nimbus]

He's gonna come down from above. Dash right

That's it

[hollow dagger]

ram dash

[last narwhal]

when he comes out of his second phase portal, go up and dash left and right

then stay high when hes shooting lasers

[wispy wasp]

you mean legion of celestia

[last narwhal]

and then go down left and right

[digital nimbus]

They changed it?

[last narwhal]

and then stay low while hes shooting lasers

[wispy wasp]

cus when i searched it a pre hardmode rogue item came u

[last narwhal]

and its js a cycle up and down

[digital nimbus]

What the hell 😭

[wispy wasp]

yeah but it was elemental axe

[last narwhal]

it works rlly well when dog doesnt wanna do some random movement and throw me off

[lime laurel]

same thing as you did first phase probably

stay close to head

its harder csuse hes faster

probably easier if ur playing in an enclosed space

[last narwhal]

how hard is yharon compared to dog

[lime laurel]

idk

yharon is shit

dog is easier

[wispy wasp]

i agree

[lime laurel]

his first phase is all over the place

[digital nimbus]

https://youtube.com/shorts/cIodmOyKUrE?si=656ZUKjF19X5OVBH

[digital nimbus]

Follow this

[lime laurel]

but i play in a way that makes the game harder for no reason

so my opinion is a little skewered

[digital nimbus]

Save adrenaline and rage+omega blue set bonus and use all 3 at once in the second phase, he'll be 20% HP and the rest is easy

[digital nimbus]

(While coiling)

[hollow dagger]

I think yharon will be easier

[last narwhal]

dude

ts dont work

he will straight up break his neck to kill me

every single time

[last narwhal]

yharon sounds way more fun

[digital nimbus]

My 2nd calamity playthrough and infernum
Devourer: 244 attempts
Yharon: 6 attempts

[wispy wasp]

it aint if your playing melee

[last narwhal]

ranger

[digital nimbus]

If you see him going too far away from the circle area dash out immediately

[wispy wasp]

then ig your fine

[last narwhal]

im prob gonna stick to what im doing

it works rlly well i js always hit the bottom of my arena

[hollow dagger]

ty

[last narwhal]

so once I finish expanding it should be way easier

[digital nimbus]

And btw bind your dash to a different button so you can just click it once

[lime laurel]

god i loathe for the day i can play infenrum normally on fullscreen

[digital nimbus]

I'm on controller I have it on square

[lime laurel]

i dont wanan go back to base cal

[digital nimbus]

Dude me too

[wintry mauve]

any a y'all recomend and addon that helps calamity and thorium to work together

[lime laurel]

infernum is too fun

[last narwhal]

you think itd be easier js to finish dog then bind it or try to get used to it while fighting dog

[digital nimbus]

I have the better zoom mod and I can't see any laser beams if I'm slightly away from there

[digital nimbus]

I got used to it in like 4 attempts

4/244 of my attempts

[lime laurel]

i got the shit pc debuff and gotta play in 800x680 res

so that post ml is playable

[last narwhal]

alr ill bind it now ig

[lime laurel]

will

[last narwhal]

you think q is fine for keyboard

[lime laurel]

ml and beyond is playable

[digital nimbus]

That sucks 💔 I'm on 1366x966 and I thought that was bad

[digital nimbus]

Whatever you're comfortable with

[lime laurel]

my pc would kill itself if i tried to fight ND and avatar of emptiness or whatever

[digital nimbus]

Have you tried lowering the particle Limit?

[lime laurel]

did everything in my power to optimize calamity

[digital nimbus]

I have mine on 1000

[lime laurel]

yeah

[digital nimbus]

💔

[lime laurel]

500 is the lowest it goes

rven tempered with the ram limit that tmodloader uses

[digital nimbus]

What happens if it's 500? Do enemy attacks just not render sometimes?

[lime laurel]

raised it to 64 and it still doesnt do anything

[lime laurel]

nah

[digital nimbus]

I'm on 4gb ram 128mb vram

[lime laurel]

its most likely your projectiles being gone

[digital nimbus]

Oh I'm fine with that

[lime laurel]

boss oens can be seen always

for me at least

i always saw dog's projectiles even on laser phase

and his line on where he dashes

[digital nimbus]

I also have reduced graphical effects on but having my render distance up with better zoom makes the game sooo laggy

Without better zoom I can't see ares's head

[lime laurel]

i wanna try playing eith better zoom

i feel liek i can beat yharon easily if i have that on

being able to see where he dashes and not rely on minimap

overlapped map makes me lose focus

[wispy wasp]

should i use elysian wings or stardust wings with stardust armor

[lime laurel]

never liked using it

[lime laurel]

stardust wings

it has a set with the armor

[hollow dagger]

ok i will stop coiling on the second phase and just kill him normally

[lime laurel]

only use elysian if ur using a set that has no wings

[hollow dagger]

he is going too far every time

[lime laurel]

like the blood armor

forgor the name

[hollow dagger]

bloodflash iirc

[lime laurel]

blood flare

its called blood flare

now i remember

[last narwhal]

does yharon need to be faught in the lungle

[fading dove]

nope

[hollow dagger]

really?

i always thought he can be spawned only in the jungle

[last narwhal]

alr good cuz my jungle is gone

at least a 1/3 of it

[pulsar niche]

why does my aerialte ore drop as disenchanted aerialte ore even though i beat hte hive mind

[finite shore]

what can i do/get for lunatic cultist? infernum, my weapon is idk really ark of ancients or exalted oathblade

ark of ancients is okay

exalted is ass

and balls

idk what to get

i wanna clear lunatic so i can get daybreak

[fading dove]

flairon is pretty good iirc

[hollow dagger]

get kizma

[hollow dagger]

get terra boots

[finite shore]

whats that

[hollow dagger]

kizma balls

[finite shore]

dam

[hollow dagger]

or angel boots

[finite shore]

but fairy give me hp regen and shi

[hollow dagger]

if u can get em

[finite shore]

i dont really like using those typa weapons

[hollow dagger]

it doesnt give much mobility i guess

[finite shore]

anything else per any chance

[plucky dune]

when does the murasama rework come out?

[digital nimbus]

Are you using calamity overhaul

[last narwhal]

play ranger then u insta win

[fading dove]

when it's finished

[finite shore]

true but is lunatic infernum easy compared to bosses like golem or na

[hollow dagger]

alsa get magma glove

the glove that is crafted from your

[pulsar niche]

yes i am

[fading dove]

maybe briny baron i've heard good things about it

[supple mica]

Flairon is indeed very good.

[finite shore]

okay got good materials

[plucky dune]

do we know anything about the state of it

[finite shore]

but ion like flails

[supple mica]

And Cultist is not by any means a super hard fight in Infernum.

[fading dove]

yeah that its not ready to be released

[plucky dune]

.-.

[supple mica]

Its not a real flail. Flairon shoots bubbles that explode.

[finite shore]

how hard is duke in infernum

[supple mica]

Does not work or behave like your average Terraria flail.

[finite shore]

okay

[digital nimbus]

So you're gonna wanna turn it off

[finite shore]

how hard is empress of light

[supple mica]

Duke? Nothing crazy, hes a little quick but youll fuck em up.

Empress is a bit tougher.

[finite shore]

hmm

[pulsar niche]

bruh, why tho? Is the mod Shit or

[finite shore]

damn daybreak would be so nice to have rn

[supple mica]

Def kill Duke and get the wings and melee weapon though, they work so good.

[digital nimbus]

Yes extremely, it changes almost everything and there's no wiki

[hollow dagger]

idk

[digital nimbus]

Super easy

[hollow dagger]

he is like a filler boss

udont have to kill him

[pulsar niche]

bruh im already at the stage of wall of flesh, is it fine or do i restart

[supple mica]

Yeah he has nothing complicated. Youll probably beat him first try.

[digital nimbus]

Just remove the mod nothing will break

[supple mica]

Ive never died to Infernum Duke, ever.

[pulsar niche]

alright thanks

[finite shore]

idk but it feels liek for duke i need insignia

or sum

[supple mica]

Nope. Infact you can do Duke a bit early in Infernum.

[digital nimbus]

It's a good idea to make a copy of your world and character first

[digital nimbus]

Insignia is super garbage in calamity it's only 25% more flight

[pulsar niche]

okay thanks for telling me i was about to load in

[supple mica]

Another innocent soul spared from the torment and uncleanliness of Cal overhaul.

You love to see it.

[finite shore]

oh it isnt infinite?

[digital nimbus]

No

[finite shore]

damn it sucks then

[fading dove]

33%

[finite shore]

ill try ig

[supple mica]

If you beat Plantera and Golem, Duke should be a walk in the park.

[finite shore]

okay

tho the weapon choice kinda sucks post golem idk

[wicked creek]

Huh? There's plenty of good post golem weapons

[digital nimbus]

Not enough to use tbh

[supple mica]

The weapon choice will improve post cultist.

[digital nimbus]

You should try astreum deus, on my first playthrough I did it before golem

[supple mica]

Though honestly, you could do everything up to and including Moon Lord with Flairon. I genreally use it for that fighht.

[finite shore]

well i need to do duke for the flail ig but what else

[finite shore]

do i use ark of ancient or excalted oathblade for duke?

both are kinda ass

[supple mica]

Fishron wings are also crazy good Mirke.

[finite shore]

tru

[supple mica]

Ark of Ancients is def not ass. The new oathblade line Im not sure. It got entirely reworked and I havent tried.

[finite shore]

i mean its not ass but its not really good

[ember dew]

uh oh

[pulsar niche]

1 more question, is it also Calamity overhaul because some items just Transform into late game Bars or op Accesories

[digital nimbus]

I don't understand what you mean but I think so

[ember dew]

Fargo's Souls?

[pulsar niche]

so some Items after i leave the game, just Turn into Random Late Game Bars or different items, and idk why

[lime laurel]

wtf

[pulsar niche]

but ill turn it off anyway

[vivid osprey]

What is the best melee weapon for astrageldon

[lime laurel]

where is thsi from

wher edo you get ut

[ember dew]

says right there 😔

[lime laurel]

oh

tf is cal entorpy

[digital nimbus]

Mod

[digital nimbus]

It adds noxus as a boss

[ember dew]

no it doesnt?

[digital nimbus]

Was it not noxus?

[ember dew]

thinking of remix

[lime laurel]

that looks horrible

[digital nimbus]

Idk I get them mixed up

The purple guy who has mirror attacks or something

Shatters glass

[ember dew]

bad taste

what can i say

[maiden fjord]

no that's calamity community remix
he stays in there now

[wispy wasp]

what summons should i use for rune of kos bosses

[digital nimbus]

Legion of celestia

[fading dove]

i always forget if theyre pre or post polter

[fading dove]

if post then sirius

[digital nimbus]

+black hole after you kill ceaseless void

[digital nimbus]

Worst weapon oat

[lime laurel]

ok this is jsut an astral themed fly now

[ember dew]

it is

[wispy wasp]

oh wait i forgot thanks again

[fading dove]

its the best minion for dog

devihms

[digital nimbus]

That would be the stellar torus

[fading dove]

no its very much sirius right now

[digital nimbus]

It got buffed?

[fading dove]

yes??????

[digital nimbus]

Oh, Cool

[fading dove]

the whole stratus set got made WAY better and fully reworked

like galileo gladius is the best dog melee

[lime laurel]

vaporean evolution

[ember dew]

holy moly i see it

[wispy wasp]

im pre but ill keep sirius in my mind

after im post

[hollow dagger]

20% again

[fading dove]

i think virid vangard is quite good for ceaseless?

[hollow dagger]

for who?

[lime laurel]

ceaseless void

[maiden fjord]

ceaseless void

[ember dew]

and of course a worm boss

[hollow dagger]

isnt it just bullethell boss?

[lime laurel]

we have DoG at home

[fading dove]

i like the part where it comes in from offscreen unreactably fast with no telegraph

[hollow dagger]

i used providence thing and tenyu dragons for him

[fading dove]

good game design

[lime laurel]

tenryu dragons goated

but theyre bugged for me

mfs keep dissapearing

same with dog summon too

rip to mechworm staff

you will be missed dearly

[ember dew]

😍

[last narwhal]

finally finished clearing my arena

[hollow dagger]

it always happens mid damn fight

[wispy wasp]

is my loadout good pre polterghast

[lime laurel]

needs more clearing

[digital nimbus]

Have you tried using some of the items that fargos mutant mod adds to help with this

[maiden fjord]

why go down to underground?
the surface is wide enough

[lime laurel]

little too mcuh defensive items

[last narwhal]

wdym

[lime laurel]

but that should be good

[digital nimbus]

This is fine
For me it's too many defensive accesories

[wispy wasp]

alr thanks

[lime laurel]

if u wsnt u can go amalgam

[last narwhal]

I struggle more with vertical space then horizontal

[lime laurel]

for a bit more dps

and a dodge

[wispy wasp]

oh wait

[digital nimbus]

Mod called fargos mutant mod, it adds items that destroy a ton of blocks
Also Luiafk reborn mod that places platforms for you

[wispy wasp]

i forgot amalgam

[hollow dagger]

what are middle two?

[wispy wasp]

i removed it cus i had statis void slash

[last narwhal]

fargos can do that 😭

[wispy wasp]

ambrosial ampoule and deific amulet

[last narwhal]

thats a good 40 mins of my life wasted

[digital nimbus]

Yes I think it's the city buster? I'm not sure maybe check the wiki or something

[lime laurel]

just use ore excavtor

[hollow dagger]

what do they do?

[last narwhal]

I tried using that but it didnt do anything

[digital nimbus]

!wiki deific amulet

[hollow dove]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Deific_Amulet

[lime laurel]

this is right

[lime laurel]

its good for making arenas

[hollow dagger]

it doesnt mine earth

[digital nimbus]

Also works, kinda messy though

[lime laurel]

and a death sentence to ur base

[hollow dagger]

i mean grass

[lime laurel]

it does

[digital nimbus]

Whitelist it

[hollow dagger]

i just use destroyer of cities

its called like that if i translate directly

[wicked creek]

Ah yes very balanced

Do you know it's really easy to get more than 300 mana

[hollow dagger]

this thingy

[pliant ridge]

How many mods in the Infernal Eclipse of Ragnarok modpack are extraneous if playing on Expert difficulty?

[wicked creek]

Ark of the ancients is very good but it really wants you to use the parry system and preferably go in true melee range

[ember dew]

aware i already tested it, gives like 20% bonus damage with just 300 base mana LOL

[wicked creek]

It should give 45%

[pliant ridge]

I recognise that this question sounds stupid because it's a pack designed for even-harder-than-Infernum difficulty and I'm playing it on Expert instead so I'm misusing the pack horribly.

[wicked creek]

0.15×300=45

[pliant ridge]

I mainly want to try playing all of these weird content mods, half of which I was unaware of, together without the balance being broken.

[ember dew]

its only from the 40% bonus from the item

[lime laurel]

ciry buster

city buster

[ember dew]

so 120*0.15

[wicked creek]

Then maybe do not play them in a modpack where they're balanced around the higher difficulty

[pliant ridge]

The modpack has a mod for balancing them, though.

[ember dew]

would be crazy if it used base mana as well

[wicked creek]

It's already crazy as is

[ember dew]

true

[fading dove]

mutant presence now disable calamity cursor we're so fucked (ignore how it was already getting like 20% contrib before the buff in 2.1)

[ember dew]

oh my dear god

[open widget]

am i an idiot or like where is the telescope im supposed to fix

[ember dew]

make sure the space is at least 50 blocks

move her and move her back

[open widget]

so why did it let me place the flag and say it was suitable :/

[ember dew]

no idea but this has been happening regularly

[lime laurel]

she doesnt want to look at stars

she ate it up

[finite shore]

yeah thats gonna be a problem with duke no?

and exalted seems to be ass

[wicked creek]

Depends on how comfortable you are with it

[supple mica]

They changed Ark a bit recently.

[finite shore]

wdym

[lime laurel]

just parry the little goobers that duke throws out

boom

[finite shore]

okay

[wicked creek]

You using the right click attack with swords impaled?

[finite shore]

yeah

[supple mica]

Its more effective at range now. They nerfed the weapons damage, but they buffed the dmg of the 3 stars it shoots out.

[finite shore]

still seems worse then ark

[supple mica]

The stars also go through tiles now.

[finite shore]

okay

ima try out duke now just found out the amidias guy sells truffle worms

[wispy wasp]

is dazzling stabber staff good

[supple mica]

Indeed. Can buy 3 and make the permanent summon item.

[pliant ridge]

Upon scrutinising the modlist I've decided to leave it as-is. Even though I'm not using the extreme difficulty mods, they're prerequisites for the pack's central mod, which merges and cleans up everything. So I won't remove anything.

[finite shore]

i just tried duke i melt him but i cant see his tornadoes

or whatever the water thing is

[finite shore]

okay

[pliant ridge]

Unless the lag gets really noticeable.

[finite shore]

whats the item called?

[ember dew]

Infernal Eclipse of Ragnarok?

[supple mica]

Truffle worm platter.

[pliant ridge]

Ye.

Saw a youtuber play it but he was boring so I decided to try it myself.

But I'm not very good at ultra extreme mega hardcore Terraria play so I've tuned the difficulty down considerably.

Also the game's fairly laggy, although I can't tell how laggy since Frame Skip is forced off, which is why I was trying to figure out what mods are removable.

(Using the slimmed-down pack version already, so it's very possible that nothing's removable and I just don't have the hardware to run this well. But that would be sad.)

[ember dew]

i played it once and it was always laggy

[pliant ridge]

I suppose it's obligatory when you decide to shove as many content mods into a single pack as you physically can.

[finite shore]

okay thx, and is there an item which tps me o ocean

[pliant ridge]

Is the enhanced reaction time from the game running at 0.75x speed an intended element of the boss balancing?

[supple mica]

Yeah bro the magic conch.

Conch and Hell conch are imperative!

[ember dew]

💀

[pliant ridge]

Also, do I need to install the Calamity texture pack?

I usually play with it, but I've switched computers and don't have it on this one.

[ember dew]

no all texture packs are by choice

[finite shore]

idk i just cant parry with ark of ancients

like i need to hold right click

for it to activate

3 seconds after\

i miss out on so many hits

if i try to parry

i dont get whats with it

[supple mica]

I only use the parry if I need to or can without overreaching for it.

[finite shore]

but then the dps isnt that great

[supple mica]

Youll miss out on hits but, youll avoid a hit and youll get a big dmg increase for like 10 swings.

Which more than makes up for it.

[finite shore]

oaky

[pliant ridge]

But, like, is the mod designed with the visual expectation of using the pack. I am seeing enemies which are clearly in the Calamity pack style.

[supple mica]

The pack and the mod are in no way officially connected.

The texture pack was just named that because it is inspired by Calamity's style.

Polaris is another popular choice that works perfectly well with Calamity.

Cal texture pack does a lot really well, then some things it doesn't. Don't get me started on their base wood textures.

All that being said. Calamity the mod was designed to be used with the default Terraria textures. Youll be fine.

[finite shore]

bru lunatic cultist 2% hp left

[finite shore]

does luantic cultists barrier do damage?

i swear i died when i touched it

[ember dew]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3666344496

ooga booga balancing is hard

but it works 😍

[night copper]

whats the best summoner weapon against the perforators?

[lime laurel]

no

did they change parry?

on ark of ancients?

[pliant ridge]

How do I check the framerate?

[lime laurel]

to be hold on parry?

[fading dove]

press f10

[pliant ridge]

The game feels slow but that might just be because I'm using copper tools and don't have mobility.

[fading dove]

itll show your framerate in the bottom left corner

[pliant ridge]

30-40.

Seems, fine?

But how does that work with frame skip off?

[lime laurel]

porllly worse

[finite shore]

i need to hold right click

[fading dove]

the framerate will be a little higher but the tick rate will be lower

[lime laurel]

i dont think so?

[pliant ridge]

Frame skip is force-off and it has 30-40 FPS, i mean.

[lime laurel]

iirc its just a dingle right clicj

[pliant ridge]

Tick rate is the number that's fluctuating between like 400-800, right?

[fading dove]

tick rate is how often the game calculated everything

[pliant ridge]

How high should that be?

[fading dove]

with frameskip on its 60

[ember dew]

doesnt highfpssupport force it

[fading dove]

everything's balanced around it being at 60

[pliant ridge]

So the full pack is making me perform at 2/3 speed.

Is that correct?

[fading dove]

yeah

[pliant ridge]

In that case, I'll probably butcher the modpack.

[finite shore]

damn lunatic cultist wasnt so bad after all

did him in 5 attempts even while under geared

[last narwhal]

Is wrath of machines exo harder than infernum exo?

[ember dew]

its better and more fun

[last narwhal]

Alr bet

How hard is wrath of gods compared to endgame cal bosses

[pliant ridge]

The content mods and the mods in the list that I didn't put there myself are:

• Structure Helper
• Calamity Mod & its music mods
• Shop Expander
• Catalyst Mod
• Secrets of the Shadows
• Consolaria
• Thorium Mod
• Calamity: Wrath of the Gods
• Calamity: Hunt of the Old God
• Clamity
• Thorium Helheim
• Ragnarok
• A lot of class integration mods, which seem to be mainly for Thorium class integration
• Calamity Crossmod Vulnerabilities
• Revengeance+
• Thorium Chest Loot Tweaks
• Calamity Mod Infernum
• Infernal Eclipse of Ragnarok and its Weapon DLC
• 'Infernum SotS Sanctuary WorldGen Adjuster'
  I'm not interested in Thorium or Infernum, and getting rid of those would pare the pack down significantly. From what I can tell, most of the remaining mods are add-ons to Calamity, with SotS being something else, but I don't know what the add-ons are for.
  I think I want to play with SotS - I originally picked up the pack because of seeing the ruins locations in it, which seem to be from SotS - so what would I need for integration between it and all the Calamity junk?

[ember dew]

if u remove infernum whats the point 😭

[supple mica]

Thing is like 3+ mods are purposely changing everything to be on Infernum's level. So yea.

[ember dew]

at this point just make ur own pack

[supple mica]

Infernum is the centerpoint.

Removing it does seem a little counter productive.

[supple mica]

If you don't want Thorium or Infernum then I can make this 100x easier for you.

Just get Calamity, Calamity Hunt of the Old Gods, Catalyst Mod, and then forget literally everything else.

[pliant ridge]

Alright.

[supple mica]

Oh and Wrath of the Gods.

Keep that too.

[pliant ridge]

And Secrets, presumably.

[supple mica]

Those all work together just fine without all the fluff.

[ember dew]

also i tested SOTS recently and the lag it causes is insane

[pliant ridge]

I would have been willing to play with Thorium but not at 2/3 speed.

[ember dew]

check this out 😎

[supple mica]

I wouldnt even keep Secrets.

[ember dew]

oh wait that aint working one sec

[supple mica]

It takes a pack to make it compatible with Calamity and even then, its very different content.

[ember dew]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3666442603

[pliant ridge]

But my ruins... the one thing I wanted to play with...

[supple mica]

A temporary joy that will be overshadowed by the perils of mixing too many content mods.

[pliant ridge]

The perils being "muy framerat :("

The poor rat. It's working so hard to make this inane pack work.

I shall give it a rest.

And, I guess put SotS on the list for if I'm bored again and want to play another Terraria run.

[supple mica]

Another problem with giant mix up packs like that is when certain mods in the pack update, or something necessary is removed. I mean its up to you at the end of the day.

[pliant ridge]

Terraria seems to handle large mod sets much worse than Rimworld or Minecraft.

I wonder why that is.

[ember dew]

the engine is garbage

[pliant ridge]

That would do it.

[supple mica]

Depends on the hardware really. Tmodloader itself can handle some pretty large mod packs.

[lime laurel]

i wish wotg has an option to disable the falling sand post ml

[ember dew]

i would put the max "playable" mod list at around 130 mods (with like maybe only 10 content mods)

go over that and it becomes unstable beyond help

[pliant ridge]

Well, I'll keep in mind for the future: "Terraria cannot be kitchen-sinked".

[supple mica]

Rift Eclipse Toggler.

Its a debug item.

[lime laurel]

what if you alr got sand in and wsnt to remove it but removed worg

wotg

i want to remove them

they are unsightly

[pliant ridge]

Have put on new pack with most of the content cut out.

It is running significantly faster.

[raw maple]

every time i fight the brain when it goes into the 35% mark on health it does its 3rd faze attack and then for some reason gos to the surface and despawns, im playing infernum

[frank mauve]

just fight on rev+

[floral epoch]

@frank mauve is this good now?

[frank mauve]

where sniper scope

[floral epoch]

:/

and what weapon?

monsoon?

[magic cloud]

There’s addons to calamity

[frank mauve]

monsoon or daemon flame work good

[magic cloud]

I forgot

Mod mods

[jagged parcel]

my take is that WotM is far less restricting of your movement than Infernum Exos but can be a little harder to follow (unless you followed all of the beta videos and know all of the attacks by heart) but overall it is far easier (and better too. very better)

[floral epoch]

what about 7 striker?

[frank mauve]

if it can deal alot of dmg sure

[supple mica]

WotM is way too easy in Infernum, it is a really cool fight though.

[floral epoch]

time to grind for plats

[haughty blaze]

whats best weapon against Yahron in infernum for melee rn im using death ascension

[frank mauve]

essence flayer

[wicked creek]

Galaxia with the phoenix's pride attunement

Essence flayer is good for the first two subphases of the first phase

[tight fog]

i cant say its better but visually definitely

[frank mauve]

isnt cosmic discharge better for p2

[wicked creek]

Oh wait actually they did retier Galaxia in base cal didn't they

[fading dove]

retiered to post sentinels

[wicked creek]

Yeah fuck

[frank mauve]

finally midaxia

[patent girder]

i kinda dont like galaxia line that much

[haughty blaze]

so whats the alt

[tight fog]

i hate moonlord infernum bro why do each of the TEoCs have their own iframes

[fading dove]

im pretty sure phaseslayer is real good now

[frank mauve]

i just said

[fading dove]

i know its like

[frank mauve]

essence flayer

[wicked creek]

Ok so yes and no

Cosmic discharge has amazing DPS BUT you need to be really close to him

And while it's easily doable when he stands still to spawn the stationary fire ring in phase 2, it's less easy during the rest of the fight

[fading dove]

WAY too fucking good on basecal yharon

[tight fog]

why can i get hit by two of them at the same time and take 250+ damage 😭

[frank mauve]

it still has some good dps when hes dashing you constantly

[fading dove]

like high S time on basecal without pain

[frank mauve]

phaseslayer no gimmick?

[haughty blaze]

it doesnt do that much damage even death ascension doing better work

[frank mauve]

then just use death ascension ig

[wicked creek]

Essence flayer is better than death's ascension while it's standing still

The projectiles from it linger

But do try phaseslayer

[fading dove]

no you still do the gimmick its just that the gimmick doesnt hurt you anymore

[haughty blaze]

alr

[frank mauve]

i lowk needa dm that one person for tiercord inv

[umbral owl]

Solyn is dead

they got turned to whatever that was

WHAT WAS THIS

[maiden fjord]

holy celestial shell in yharon fight 🥹

[open widget]

how do you get terraprisma on infernum? I thought i had to beat her during daytime which i did but didnt get it. then i killed her like 10 times nighttime but still dont have it. (killed her daytime again still nothing :/)

[plucky dune]

i think youre just getting unlucky

iirc either base cal or infernum changes it to a normal boss drop

[smoky dock]

it has something to do with the recent Clamity change which buffs Terraprisma and returns it to a daytime only drop

Personally I'd just go without Terraprismas until that gets sorted out. It's not worth the effort

[finite shore]

whats a good boss to farm for coins

i got non consumable summong items thats why

[smoky dock]

in infernum, eater of worlds and moon lord are fantastic

they get bonus ore drops and EoW drops two boss bags for some reason

[frank mauve]

slime god is good too now

[smoky dock]

what changed?

[frank mauve]

static refiner is easier to craft so u can just farm those and sell em

[median rampart]

just finished my first wrath of the gods run
|| i love solyn and its so cute that shes in the eternal garden after you beat nameless, i was really sad when she died ||

[umbral owl]

HOW

[median rampart]

what

[umbral owl]

dude.

HOW

[median rampart]

how what

[umbral owl]

nameless is basically flashbangs spams

[median rampart]

uhhh

just get good idk

[mental rivet]

is there any way to force a snowstorm in infernum?

[elder nebula]

torrential tear

[mental rivet]

but there arent abyss chests in infernum so idk where to get it from

[elder nebula]

guide in pins

[mental rivet]

ty

[umbral owl]

did ur game also crashed

[median rampart]

it only crashed when i fought storm weaver for the first time

[fiery mango]

I just found my reaction to beating Abominationn for the first time years ago

[elder nebula]

lmao

[umbral owl]

hypotechically if solyn is in eternal garden

Can i just go pick her up

[lime laurel]

beat the game

and find out

[umbral owl]

i did i think

I saw hands

[frank mauve]

get the true ending

[umbral owl]

huh

How

[frank mauve]

collect all books

[azure verge]

Hello so last i played and completed the game was June 2024
where can i find like the mod combo intended for proper calamity run? because i saw overhaul is "broken" and i used it in the past, also the link provided in the pins for calamity add ons is broken

[jagged parcel]

if you mean calamity addons, I recommend Wrath of the Gods, Hunt of the Old God, and Catalyst. Calamity's Vanities is also a very fun mod

[lime laurel]

its not really broken

just buggy

lots of stuff are changed

oh wait overhaul nvm

yea cal overhaul might be slightly unbalanced

[smoky dock]

calmity overhaul lmao

[smoky dock]

An intended Calamity run uses just Calamity and Calamity Music Mod

[merry harness]

vcmm

[finite shore]

can anyone genuinely give me advice for duke fishron

im using daybreak

and beetle armor

[lime laurel]

swap to summoner

then beat im

after beating fishron swap back to melee and pretend you beat fishron in melee

[smoky dock]

daybreak is not very well suited to duke fishron since he resists Heat debuffs and is hard to hit

consider Grand Guardian

[frank mauve]

use the jousting lance

[smoky dock]

peak weapon tbh

[little cradle]

is wrath of the gods infernum compatible

[frank mauve]

with dashes now its prob genuinely worth it

[lime laurel]

yes

[finite shore]

its not even hitting the problem

i cant dodge

the last phase

dashes

i jsut cant

hje spams them

fuckass boss

the worst one i fought

[lime laurel]

time them

dash to opposite direction

of where duke is

u most likely have asgards valor

if that dont work jsut fly up with soaring insignia

u will prolly outfly the dashes

[finite shore]

😔

[finite shore]

😔

[outer creek]

anyone give me some tips for dodging moon lords two eye attack where one closes you in and the other one does many blasts

[lime laurel]

fly up

run soaring insignia for better wing mobility

replace boots for insignia

[twin yarrow]

wtf is the best ranged weapon for scal and exos???? im struggling with halibut cannon im doing like 20k dps ive genuinely never done so littel dps with any class
ive played with every class except for ranger so this is insane

[finite shore]

well i did kinda not beat empress yet

or have the valor thing

[lime laurel]

craft valor

[twin yarrow]

heres the loadout

[finite shore]

ill try

[twin yarrow]

ive got a more damage oriented build clearly

[lime laurel]

might have to skip out on insignia and just time your dashes

[twin yarrow]

yet im doing zero damage

[lime laurel]

yeah

[finite shore]

what do i switch out here

[lime laurel]

i feel like the only class that can deal nutty dsmage now is true melee

[lime laurel]

the hell is that shell

[lime laurel]

eh not worth

[finite shore]

okay

what do i replace here

[lime laurel]

u wsnt mkre damage or survivability

community might bea good fit

[finite shore]

@smoky dock dihzard how do i become a good true melee player

im tired of fake melee

[lime laurel]

is absorber available to you atm?

[twin yarrow]

could anyone help me out? what am i actually doing wrong 😭

[finite shore]

whats that

[lime laurel]

use weapons that have true melee lsited on damage

[lime laurel]

accessory

[smoky dock]

The biggest thing to know about true melee is knowing when it’s safe to go in and deal damage, and when you should fall back to heal and wait

[twin yarrow]

i mean ive got my set bonus and everything from my auric armour
i really fail to see what im doing wrong to be doing 20k dps pre mechs]

pre exos

[pastel haven]

you dont

[smoky dock]

You do not need 100% damage uptime

[pastel haven]

gotta be born with it

[frank mauve]

bad accessories

[finite shore]

what are the reqs to get it

[twin yarrow]

damage oriented accessories

[lime laurel]

look it up

i gorgot

forgot

[outer creek]

im not using boots what do i replace with insignia

[frank mauve]

if u want true damage use these
sniper scope
eye of the golem
arc flash ring

[finite shore]

okay and also like can you screen me or dm me liek recommended setup for pre moon lord or sum

[lime laurel]

shpuld be enough

[smoky dock]

i’m not sure what the preferred equipment is anymore

[frank mauve]

are you fighting ml

replace asgard with ninja gear

[lime laurel]

class setups has good recommendations

in calamity.gg

[dense skiff]

Why when I kill the Cthulhu brain it starts flying away at 1 hp and the kill doesn't count. Playing with Kalamity+Overhaul and other mods\

[last narwhal]

holy crap finally

[finite shore]

yeah i can gety the absorber its just gonan take a long time to grind out

[smoky dock]

Valhalla Knight, Shinobi Infiltrator, Hydrothermic, Beetle Scale Mail, Reaver Visage, and potentially Reaver Helm are all viable armor sets

[lime laurel]

ggs

[lime laurel]

get to it

[supple mica]

My favorite Calamity guide: Try it and see.

[finite shore]

ok is it post ml accesory or na

[lime laurel]

no

[finite shore]

ye im using beetle scale mail

[twin yarrow]

why am i having to do alladat just to get some damage man 😭

[finite shore]

🥲

[lime laurel]

guy that psoted his gear has it

[outer creek]

why ninja gear?

[lime laurel]

and even ampule

[lime laurel]

dodge

[dense skiff]

?

[lime laurel]

its a good safety net on the laser

[smoky dock]

Master Ninja Gear has a dash and dodge built into one slot

[supple mica]

We don't do Cal overhaul here sir.

[lime laurel]

asgards ram dash isnt useful vs ml

[smoky dock]

It saves your incredibly valuable accessory slots

[wispy wasp]

what summon should i use for polterghast infernum

[lime laurel]

virid vanguard?

[supple mica]

If you play Cal overhaul not only will your Cthulhu brain fly away, but your save file might too.

[lime laurel]

its p gold

and also uh

[smoky dock]

I know your sentry must be Cadaverous Carrion

vanguards got reworked and buffed recently

[lime laurel]

tenryu deagon

[smoky dock]

hugely strong now

i think

[lime laurel]

idk i couldnt tell

[wispy wasp]

nah i use guidelight of oblivion idk if its really good

[lime laurel]

i used them

[smoky dock]

idk i haven’t actually played the video game

[lime laurel]

dragons did most of the work tbh

[smoky dock]

Cadaverous Carrion is like, the best sentry. In the game. Unfortunately.

[wispy wasp]

wait lemme check it cus it isnt listed in the wiki

[lime laurel]

it is

[wispy wasp]

im pre polterghast tho

[lime laurel]

and?

[dense skiff]

It's not a big deal to constantly back up the world. I'm worried about not being able to kill the boss xd

[lime laurel]

no excuse to progression skip

[wispy wasp]

aint old duke after polterghast

[lime laurel]

get to it

[lime laurel]

thats recommended

[smoky dock]

oh shit you’re right kekw

[lime laurel]

be a chad and progression skip

[smoky dock]

it’s not possible to challenge OD pre-Polterghast

[lime laurel]

why not

[smoky dock]

Use transmutation or deal with it

[lime laurel]

oh wait

[twin yarrow]

no old duke is post scal tbh

[lime laurel]

blood worms dont spawn till post polterghast?

[smoky dock]

Bloodworms only spawn post-Polterghast, same with T3 acid rain

[lime laurel]

woe

nvm

[twin yarrow]

old duke is like actually skippable in infernum unless youre summoner

[lime laurel]

guess u gotta get polterghast first

[twin yarrow]

cuz u need the sentry from OD as summoner

that shits broken

if youre not summoner

just beat it when u need it

[smoky dock]

orrrr you can just not use it

[lime laurel]

is it really

i always skip duke whenever possible

[smoky dock]

yeah sadly

cadaverous carrion is a weapon everyone should be using all the time

[lime laurel]

i didnt like his base game counter part

[twin yarrow]

it is insanely broken

the damage it does is like

[smoky dock]

it’s not INSANELY broken but it’s strong

[twin yarrow]

actually insane for a sentry

yeah maybe im exaggerating a little

[smoky dock]

and like, what the hell else will you use in your sentry slots

[dapper forum]

Guys i always crash when trying to enter the different dimension to fight the nameless deity.
My mod log also shows nothing, i just crash when it says "your final test begins" every time

[twin yarrow]

what ISNT broken though is ranger this class sucks like wth

[smoky dock]

just one of the, like, five dogshit unusable classes

switch off, don’t waste your time

[twin yarrow]

wdym

[smoky dock]

rang*r bad

[twin yarrow]

yeah exactly

[smoky dock]

so switch off

[twin yarrow]

u just made it sound like all the classes suck

[smoky dock]

They do

All five

Bad

Use true melee

[silent gyro]

what should i swap out for sheild of cthulu on infernum

[twin yarrow]

not really i found rogue to be very strong in pre-scal

[twin yarrow]

thats true...

[silent gyro]

nah classless is where its at

[smoky dock]

imo shield of cthulhu is not very effective and i wouldn’t use it

classless is overpowered rn unfortunately

[supple mica]

Prikki: Don't limit yourself to class

[silent gyro]

fr?

[supple mica]

Also Prikki: True melee.

[smoky dock]

yeah, I don’t like it

default dash is good enough

[supple mica]

I used to swear by Shield. But after seeing a lot of these folks say fuck it, I said fuck it.

Last run I used no SoC and yea, you don't need it at all.

[smoky dock]

you have free will and can totally use it if you want

but to me personally, it’s a pass

[supple mica]

True! Or you can throw in more defense or offense.

[fleet karma]

is there a way to get solyn to not bug out at the ice castle when u respawn her and reset her quests?

[frank mauve]

cuz u were using the weaker offensive accessories

[twin yarrow]

so which accessories do i replace

im keeping sponge as a bare minimum i dont really need anything else defense wise

[smoky dock]

crit damage bonuses are BASICALLY multiplicitive

absolutely bonkers addition to the game

[twin yarrow]

im running full lucky

[smoky dock]

So?

[twin yarrow]

oh u meant in general

[smoky dock]

Crit chance =/= crit damage

HUGE difference

[twin yarrow]

yeah there is

[waxen tide]

tuff

[twin yarrow]

but ideally u want

100% cc

(duh)

[waxen tide]

ideally you want 7 warding 🙄

[frank mauve]

the bad ones

[twin yarrow]

those being

reapertooth im guessing

and

[supple mica]

🤔 🤔 🤔

[frank mauve]

reaper necklace, destroyer emblem and folly thing

dynamo stem cells 🤔

[smoky dock]

dynamo stem cells

[twin yarrow]

10% ranged damage and lightning bolt every 3 seconds

okay yeah it sucks