calamity-addon-talk

[fading dove]

uhhhh

i like crystal assassin ench for the special dash it has

wiz statigel is very good

wiz almost anything is very good

[weary notch]

or you can just bobbit hook to completely evade like half the dash

[fading dove]

wiz boreal is some big damage if you're using a weapon with high base damage like nitro express rifle or naval rustrifle

[merry harness]

should i replace verdant doomsayer mask and solar enchantment with any forces?

[blazing storm]

but my damageeee

[fading dove]

oh yeah vdm wants to be swapped out

[weary notch]

oh
a tmelee

[blazing storm]

yknow thats funny

no

[weary notch]

...

[blazing storm]

i mean kinda

[fading dove]

warbanner is not to be used outside of tmelee

especially on scal

[weary notch]

upgrade the destroyer emblem and NUKE THAT WARBANNER

[blazing storm]

exoblade DRage and cosmic discharg

[weary notch]

or like swap for sumn else

[blazing storm]

wdym upgrade the destroyer emblem

[weary notch]

switch for sumn else, bad of bravery can swap as welll

[blazing storm]

ah

but my damage

[weary notch]

idk i havent played calamity in 6 months

[weary notch]

scal hard counters glass builds

[blazing storm]

i have the damage so i can nuke her in the beam phases

cosmic discharge is INSANE for that

[elder nebula]

you need the sponge

[weary notch]

^

[blazing storm]

but damageeee

[weary notch]

sponge

warbanner to sponge

[elder nebula]

you have enough

[weary notch]

its scal anyways

[elder nebula]

you can't do damage if you're dead

[plush ermine]

what about summoner are there any differences

[blazing storm]

but my 40% attack speed for 2/3 of my weaponssss

[weary notch]

only works if your in her ass

[blazing storm]

for 1/3 of my weaponsss

[weary notch]

and im not kidding, thats how close you need to be

[blazing storm]

ikkkk

[weary notch]

are you that close?

[blazing storm]

but DRage NUKES her

[merry harness]

how are force of death and force of nature for solar ench and vdm?

[weary notch]

just keep warbanner in the social slot and swap when you have the opportunity to nuke

[elder nebula]

she nukes you without the sponge

[fading dove]

spider is very good but don't wiz it

[weary notch]

and sponge it

[blazing storm]

doesnt that one cheater alchemist npc potion not go well with sponge

[weary notch]

idk

i dont use alch npc outside of the money and the treasure bags

[blazing storm]

ill try out sponge

[remote ember]

[elder nebula]

it's almost as good as dheart (the most broken accessory in the game)

[plush ermine]

yeah bro

[blazing storm]

nahhh thats def asgardian aegis

[fading dove]

time to get back to bashing my head against wof

[elder nebula]

❌

aegis works exactly as intended

sponge and dheart are comically inflated

[blazing storm]

if i have 97% cc should i swap one to lucky or leave as warding

ikkk :[

[merry harness]

and i keep heart of the master right?

[weary notch]

...

im gone

[blazing storm]

shhh

[weary notch]

i need sleep

[elder nebula]

it's not worth it

[blazing storm]

but funny numbers

[plush ermine]

ok thanks

[blazing storm]

im gonna create an identical set on my second one and swap to that when i need tmelee

im smart

[merry harness]

whats the easiest way to get rain coat and rain hat

and umbrella hat

[cedar laurel]

make it rain in blood moon or something

[remote ember]

What enchantments ı should use in my summoner maso death mode

[blazing storm]

new record

[remote ember]

İs aerospec enchsntment good

[fading dove]

if youre utilising it well then yeah

[remote ember]

Wdym by that

[fading dove]

if youre building around it then it will be useful but if you're using wings for your aerial mobility it's just a wasted slot

[remote ember]

Oh is switching to bundle of baloons worth the damage

[fading dove]

depends

are you consistently maxxing out the jumps?

are you using some sort of slowfall to extend the period of max crit chance?

[remote ember]

Nvm im ok with feral claws then

[fading dove]

feral claws sucks

[remote ember]

Sounds complicated

[jovial carbon]

can someone tell me why i cant defeat infernum eater of worlds i got minishark with flash rounds and stuff

[remote ember]

Yeah idk whar accsesory i should use

[fading dove]

its a wasted slot unless youre using a melee weapon that benefits from melee speed

and by wasted slot i really mean that its doing nothing

whips don't benefit from melee speed in eternity

[remote ember]

I mean its autoattacking

[fading dove]

every weapon has that

[remote ember]

[fading dove]

vanilla feature :hms:

[remote ember]

I just learned that

So what should ı usr instead of feral claws ım summoner

thats my gear

[fading dove]

since you're fighting perforators, i'd suggest obsidian enchantment and ancient cobalt enchantment since you're locked to the ground

[remote ember]

We beat it after that picture

[plush ermine]

yeah uhh we beat it actually this screenshot is old

[fading dove]

ah

[obtuse elbow]

why not

[plush ermine]

we got statigel set somehow after this

[fading dove]

ah so you're on devi

[plush ermine]

yes

[remote ember]

Yes but no

[plush ermine]

nvm bro we on devi

[remote ember]

We skipped skeletron

[remote ember]

He vallaha

[remote ember]

I think we can easily kill it with statigel gear and sulphurous sea stuff

[remote ember]

What should we get asking mostly enchantments cuz i dont know fargos a lot

[fading dove]

use bee ench if you use hornet staff

[remote ember]

I use herring rn

And that whip that cursed coffinf drops

[remote ember]

Thanks is spirit glyph good for replacing bee ench

[fading dove]

well if you replace bee ench then you don't get wings

[remote ember]

Oh

Ok

[proud hamlet]

Man this thing is a beast

Finally getting the hang of its patterns

[frank mauve]

are u using an offensive loadout

[proud hamlet]

Yes, as offensively as I can without like, getting 2-3 shot

[frank mauve]

well sorry to tell you but thats kinda useless against geldon

cuz geldon has RDR meaning u cant get under 3:30

[proud hamlet]

Well I have warding on everything so

[mystic notch]

an update on this horrible run I beat the eye of cthulhu but now my spawn looks like it got hit by at least 493 nuclear bombs and all my town npcs died from the meteor barrages happening every 2 minutes also I am now being chased by supreme calamitas and old duke despite my strongest weapon being the funny amedias trident also there is like 3 nebula pillars on top of my spawn

[frank mauve]

thats good what abt wings?

[proud hamlet]

Was mainly using duke, I saw that EoL wings are also good so I was gonna try those then

[frank mauve]

yeah once p2 hit empress wings are really good

[proud hamlet]

Yeah I'm on P2 already so I'll switch to those

[frank mauve]

sweet

[mystic notch]

in other words

it could be MUCH worse

[proud hamlet]

I saw that the absorber is also good for the boss fight for a few no hits people were doing, so I'm also gonna try it out

[mystic notch]

so I am thankful for the blessings of rng even though I keep getting spawncamped constantly by the 25 brain sucklers that are on top of my spawn position at all times

[frank mauve]

i think they mainly use it for the movement speed boost but its fine as a defensive accessory too

u could even drop asgard valor for it if u have that

[proud hamlet]

Nah I'll just take off electritions glove for it

I've gotten so used to the dash

[frank mauve]

then if ur gonna use absorber then drop asgard valor for ninja belt

and if u have amalg brain u can use an offensive accessory instead

[proud hamlet]

This is my current setup

[proud hamlet]

Wait why ninja belt

[frank mauve]

dodge and dash

[proud hamlet]

abyssal mirror already acts as a dodge

[frank mauve]

oh then evasion scarf 🤔

dodgemaxx

[proud hamlet]

That'll be more beneficial than asgards?

Doesn't it share a CD with abyssal mirror

[frank mauve]

if ur planning to use absorber then asgard is useless

also evasion scarf dodge is its own

[proud hamlet]

Ah.

Got it

[frank mauve]

u can even go as far as using hallowed armor but ur rogue

[proud hamlet]

Ye

[fading crest]

would i have any problems if i was to activate infernum while already playing on the world for a few hours

[frank mauve]

yup

[digital bramble]

theres at least 1 thing that gets added to the world gen from what i know so youll lose out on that and id guess more than that

[frank mauve]

abyss

[thin schooner]

tier 2 acid rain

[digital bramble]

i just lagged for about a while so i tried to say this like 5m ago but its the stuff in the abyss like that pearl and the boots how theyre not in chests and actually on the floor with stuff around them or wtv right?

[frank mauve]

yeah inf reworks abyss completly

changes how to get the item usually

like herring staff has to be caught from the herring critter

[digital bramble]

this what i got but im probably gonna swap boots for better wings and then the 2nd to last item could be chalice or smth

[digital bramble]

guess ill have to remember this when i dont go against queen bee as my 2nd boss in a summon character

[frank mauve]

against scal?

[digital bramble]

yeah this was my first character

for calamity

i already beat scal

[frank mauve]

yeah its a decent setup

tho amalgam is bad

u couldve went for something else

[digital bramble]

on goes sponge then

[rare patio]

why is Infernum Devourer so much more difficult to do than all the other Bosses that come after you beat him (S.Cal, Exo's, Yharon)

am i crazy for saying that

[frank mauve]

ehh

[digital bramble]

or wait what should go on actually

[frank mauve]

hes not that difficult just really punishing

[rare patio]

yeah if you mistime a single dash say goodbye to all your hp

[frank mauve]

u dont seem to have a kb immunity accessory so maybe go for that first 🤔

also u already have a dodge from statis void

[rare patio]

https://tenor.com/view/calamity-infernum-devourer-of-gods-10-seconds-10-seconds-bro-gif-7502656071110460725

[frank mauve]

so u can use stuff like rtn over amalgam

[digital bramble]

i got kb potion but ill probaby put on that one shield idk what its called

[digital bramble]

yeah i saw that so chalice is there

[frank mauve]

oh alchnpc stuff

yaeh ppl will crucify u for using alchnpc potions

[digital bramble]

yeah well its my world so idgaf

single player world so if people get mad its their fault

[frank mauve]

[digital bramble]

whats that one shield called its the max upgrade to ankh shield

[frank mauve]

theres asgardian aegis which has kb immunity with other debuffs immunities and a ramdash

but since u seem to already have a dash using rampart is better

[digital bramble]

whats a lower upgrade of that to see if i have it

thats not right wording but wtv

[frank mauve]

its uhh

asgard valor - elysian aegis - asgardian aegi

s

if u meant rampart then its just an upgrade from frozen shield and deific amulet

[blazing storm]

THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD LETS GO

[digital bramble]

yeah this

[blazing storm]

121 ATTEMPTS

[digital bramble]

thanks

[frank mauve]

i lowk glaze rampart even tho its not the best accessory ever

[digital bramble]

yeah well its not like ima be doing a whole lot more on this world except for like builds and stuff so it dont matter a bunch

but i like messing with new accessories

[frank mauve]

i be using it alot cuz i dont really care for dashes since default dash is enough for me

[digital bramble]

top to bottom its seraph tracers(wings now), radiance, elemental gauntlet, statis' void sash, draedons heart, purity(or chalice), and amalgam which is sponge now

[frank mauve]

its too hard getting a rover drive post wof/ml

ur best bet is creating a new world

[digital bramble]

ok well i just made asguardians aegis from base with all the bs in my magic storage so thats cool

just had to go to the guide once to check what was to get to asguardian aegis

how sea prisms i forgot

how do i get themd

[proud hamlet]

Yeah after trying out EoL wings a few times, the insane boost it gives vertically is too much for me

Just gonna keep dukes, other than that I think I can beat it

[frank mauve]

u could drop angel treads

[proud hamlet]

that is true..

But what would I even up in its place

Actually wait

[frank mauve]

ampoule, charm of myth/blood pact or deific amulet

elec glove can go back in

[proud hamlet]

Was thinking ampoule yeah

[proud hamlet]

Eh my damage barely changes

[frank mauve]

mainly for the lifesteal

[proud hamlet]

That's also true, let me do a few runs with each

[frank mauve]

honestly i feel like ampoule is just flat out better

[proud hamlet]

Agreed

[digital bramble]

what wings should i get lowd

[frank mauve]

what stage are u

[digital bramble]

postgame

[frank mauve]

wings of rebirth are your only options (exo box)

[proud hamlet]

I did it bro

Wow

That is an amazing fight

[frank mauve]

ggs!

[frank mauve]

what weapon ud end up using?

[proud hamlet]

Stellar knife

[frank mauve]

isnt that like

way off tier

[proud hamlet]

Yeah, and for some reason it did more damage than Malachite and Regulus riot

To be fair, they generally do the same amount

[frank mauve]

dang i expected malachite to be better

[proud hamlet]

They were about the same

but stellar was just easier to use

Either way got it done, I will be memorializing stellar knifes

[frank mauve]

stellar knife is indeed stupid

[proud hamlet]

IT'S ADORABLE

[digital bramble]

i forgot to do astralgedon so could i just make a new world and then spawn it immeidiately

or like is there requirements to even be able to spawn it

[proud hamlet]

The requirement is that you can't have beaten moonlord

[digital bramble]

well yeah but there isnt any others?

[frank mauve]

astral biome

[digital bramble]

alr

also whats the spawn called i cant find any of mine

if i have any

[frank mauve]

astral communicator

[digital bramble]

ok now i just need to get a random world to hardmode rq

[frank mauve]

p sure u could js make an artificial astral biome rq and fight it there

[digital bramble]

well both my worlds are post ml

and the other isnt hardmode

[proud hamlet]

Holy crap

Hydrothermic armor

Metanova armor

That is crazy

[frank mauve]

difference between preml gear and preml gear thats tiered around polter

[proud hamlet]

Welp guess it's ML time

[blazing storm]

is seabound staff still best for skeletron or did it get nerfed

brittle star staff

[tall panther]

killing mech boss with raven staff,spooky armor so chill (plantera killed so I have these equipment )

[fading crest]

Is infernum stable in multiplayer?

[proud hamlet]

Holy crap

That is a LOT of messages

[digital bramble]

all that and then the automaton just wants to talk

[proud hamlet]

uh WHAT

[digital bramble]

im past ml but whats the best weapon for astralgedon, i forgot to fight it but i have post ml stuff but nothing with bosses after that

also its infernum if that changes anything

melee

[proud hamlet]

Nah don't think it changes anything

[digital bramble]

no like with weapon choice

[proud hamlet]

OH

No clue sorry, lowd might know

[frank mauve]

unfortunately u are at the worst stage for rogue rn

[proud hamlet]

Fantastic

Thanks for telling me that

[digital bramble]

lowd what you think

[frank mauve]

theres no best weapon

just use any postml homing weapon itll work

and build mega tank ig

[frank mauve]

its not that bad tho u can always experiment and dont use weapons 🤫

[digital bramble]

i aint got shit for homing idk where they all went

[frank mauve]

exoblade and egauntlet should do it

stack debuffs

[digital bramble]

isnt that way further than just post ml

im on my other save now

well actually idk how much further

[frank mauve]

terratomere is fairly easy to get and pretty braindead

[digital bramble]

well elemental gauntlet i cant get but ill use terratomere

[proud hamlet]

Yo so uh what's with the giant black hole of death at the top of my screen how

now*

It's gotten bigger

[digital bramble]

cant use terratomere either bc its post providence so i guess ill just figure something else to use

[little steppe]

The horrors.

[proud hamlet]

IT'S SNOWING?

THIS THING IS KILLING MY TREES

[frank mauve]

elemental shiv

[frank mauve]

wotg stuff

[digital bramble]

eol here i come

[graceful blaze]

bruh fuuuuuck infernum hardmode clan

why is he harder than sCal

[proud hamlet]

Bro there's this depressing soundtrack of doom playing right now as it's snowing and raining

Why'd everything just go to crap

[digital bramble]

damn infernum eol is bright

at death

[frank mauve]

gotta eep

💤

[proud hamlet]

Goodnight night

[proud hamlet]

Was infernum Dragonfolly really that easy?

[restive atlas]

how bad is cryogen in infernum mode?

[proud hamlet]

Not too bad if you have good movement

[restive atlas]

ok need good movment

[proud hamlet]

I also do him at night time so I can see his attacks easier

since they glow

[restive atlas]

this is my build

[proud hamlet]

I just have to say

Let's work on the accessories and armor

[restive atlas]

magition btw

[proud hamlet]

Mage?

[restive atlas]

yep

[proud hamlet]

Yeah you should get cobalt or palladium mage set

upgrade to terraspark boots

[restive atlas]

not the pirate invastion or queen slime but all prehard mode bosses are killed

[proud hamlet]

ankt shield, upgrade the brain of confusion to the amalgimated brain, and get fairy wings

[restive atlas]

ok

that all makes sence

[proud hamlet]

Also you need a mana flower upgrade

You can buy mana flower from the dryad, combine it with a regular mana potion

and then get either a star cloak or putrid scent from corruption mimics to get their upgrades

One of these two

[restive atlas]

prob star cloak

better for bosses

[proud hamlet]

Yurr

Though if you can dodge then the 5% damage will help ya anyway, either works

[viral gulch]

i like the mana cloak better than the arcane flower

[restive atlas]

same

[proud hamlet]

Yeah fair enough

[viral gulch]

the falling stars give so much mana back

[restive atlas]

first tho will be grinding for the aunk shield

and mining a little to get terra

[viral gulch]

especially if you don't use mana potions and rely on mana regen instead

it's very good

[tall panther]

Any tips for masochist permafuck?

[restive atlas]

almagamated brain has bin obtained

[proud hamlet]

Pray to whatever god you have

[restive atlas]

whitch wheapon should i be useing for cryogen?

[viral gulch]

what class are you

[proud hamlet]

Mage

[restive atlas]

should i stick with my frigid blast?

[tall panther]

Really zero idea how to dodge those attacks....

Vengeful+raven staff can't melt him

[viral gulch]

hmm been too long

[proud hamlet]

Posiedon maybe?

[viral gulch]

[proud hamlet]

Tracking and damage are both good

[viral gulch]

you definitely need some sort of tracking for cryogen

[proud hamlet]

Yeah posiedon I remember it being good

[viral gulch]

i think it has toom uch health personally

[smoky dock]

Infernum Cryogen?

[tall panther]

Infernum they call Pyrogen?

[viral gulch]

all cryogens

pyrogen is something else

[tall panther]

eternity masochist call permafuck?

[viral gulch]

isn't pyrogen just cryogen on the gfb seed

[smoky dock]

oh is this the funnuey uhhh

fandom mod

what's it called

[tall panther]

Oh,I forgot gfb

[viral gulch]

oh

the community remix thing

[smoky dock]

yeah that

ccr

[restive atlas]

MIMICS GOT BUFFED!

[viral gulch]

is that any better now?

[smoky dock]

pnictogen is my favorite tbh

[viral gulch]

or still random garbage

[smoky dock]

Ccr is, and has always been, a meme

It's a meme with an immense amount of effort behind it

You do not play ccr expecting a serious experience

[proud hamlet]

I don't remember it being too bad, I mean I did infernum cryogen yesterday and it was pretty easy, though I think rogue is really strong early hardmode with palladium spear

[proud hamlet]

Oh yeah they did

[smoky dock]

inf cryogen's difficulty is directly proportional to how much you move

please stop moving

[proud hamlet]

Tis true

[restive atlas]

i got jumpscared by the fucking life drain aura and flame shotgun

[tall panther]

Still better than masochist,move or stay also getting hit

[smoky dock]

i heard that if you're striggling on cryogen you should move left and right as quickly as possible with random intervals

[tall panther]

Once permafuck dash,and create a long trail than you can't pass through, forcing you can't run away too far

[restive atlas]

Lol i went down to mine some hellstone to make the rose needed for flame boots come up and find i killed something that droped it

cobalt sets going to be good for cryogen whith all the movement i will need

[tall panther]

Btw,which summoner weapon good after raven?

[restive atlas]

there is an raven upgrade after Dog

[tall panther]

Dog 💀

[restive atlas]

but right after raven idk

whitch boss you on

[tall panther]

Literally post plantera

[restive atlas]

oh

get the plantera summon

thats a good one to have

[tall panther]

Plantation staff

[restive atlas]

i think thats what its called

[tall panther]

Was thinking just skip permafuck and brimstone since I have this

[restive atlas]

are you useing the comuinity?

cuz it gets better the more bosses you fight

[tall panther]

Nope

[restive atlas]

then idk what they would give you

[tall panther]

I direct skip a lot bcoz I stuck

I did plantera before twins and prime 😂

[restive atlas]

i know permafuck gives a staff that summons a really fucking good summon

sentry*

[tall panther]

Cryogenic,but I have the one from aquatic scourge

[restive atlas]

hmm

[tall panther]

Next one maybe hive pod

[restive atlas]

the upgrade for the cryo staff might be good

idk tho

havent gotten that far in my summon run with my freind

[tall panther]

Summoner seems midgame won't benefit much from Fargo's DLC

Imo cryogenic staff too slow projectile speed

[restive atlas]

it gets faster the longer it attacks

becomes an very very fast attack speed

[tall panther]

Ic,may try if I can finish permafuck

[restive atlas]

AH dont fight DOG with a monolith equiped i wanted to send a pick of a fully fireing cryogen staff instead got hit whith a seager warning

ok aunk shield

[tall panther]

close

[restive atlas]

fairy wings over angle?

OR demon wings?

WAIT SINCE WHEN DOES WINGS GIVE BUFFS!

I THOUGHT THAT WAS ONLY TARAGON WINGS AND HIGHER

[elder nebula]

angel are the best pre plantera wings for almost everything

[restive atlas]

ok need essence then

[rose spindle]

im genuinely gonna cry at poltergast

i lost my muscle memory on his last phase bro

[restive atlas]

are essence drops buffed in infernum?

[rose spindle]

im degrading at every attempt

[proud hamlet]

Ay 22 attempts ain't bad man, just keep chipping away

[restive atlas]

oh god

[rose spindle]

i dont want poltergast relic to be placed

[tall panther]

permafucked...

[rose spindle]

that means i beat the man in 50 or more attempts

so far its only profaned and eol

[proud hamlet]

You have fun with that

[restive atlas]

im underground

[proud hamlet]

Huh?

[rose spindle]

[restive atlas]

i am scared to go and fight poltergast later

[rose spindle]

are these weapons good for summoner pre poltergast

dont mind the whip

i dont like that there arent whips past ml

im using the providence summon and dragon together

[elder nebula]

i don't know which mod adds that whip but i can guarantee it's worse than kaleidoscope

[rose spindle]

heh

idk why but i dont have auto whip on kaleidoscope

[restive atlas]

what wip is that lemon?

[rose spindle]

from simple whip addon

[restive atlas]

oh

[rose spindle]

made from tarragon

so should be on tier

[restive atlas]

calamity addon for summoner?

[rose spindle]

just whips

but yea

[restive atlas]

ok could you send me it?

or the name

ok

[rose spindle]

idk bro the kaleidoscope seems to be worse

[restive atlas]

is itgood for after dog?

[rose spindle]

yea

adds a miracle matter whip

[restive atlas]

ok

havent obtaind mirical matter yet but will

also my frein found a dirtiest block right at spawn of our world

[rose spindle]

any way to use more of my gpu on tmod?

[restive atlas]

nope

[brazen ore]

i placed the strange flag in a suitable place but solyn js says the same dialogue and doesnt do anything how do i fix this or is it normal

[rose spindle]

have u tried a very flat area with nothing above

[brazen ore]

yes

it says its suitable

[queen isle]

unfortunately that would require more or less reprogramming 50% of the game

it's not a switch you can flick, your code has to be specifically designed to work with either the cpu or gpu

[fallow flame]

anyone else have a problem with trying to downlaod the unofficial calamity whips mod?

[restive atlas]

current setup for exo mechs with my freind am I ready? my freind is but i am not shure?

[queen isle]

I don't play infernum but i know auric soul artifact sucks regardless of difficulty

the dog accessory isn't very good either

I'd swap them out for radiance, chalice, or sponge

[restive atlas]

oh what should i use instead.

ok

[queen isle]

also is that the skeletron whip

dungeon whip

[restive atlas]

probably radiance and sponge as i got the invinceible tesla armor

and yes

i wip stack it with the kalidasocope

[tall panther]

which summoner weapon good to calclone and anahita?

[queen isle]

by that point whips deal so little damage on their own there's no point, use morning star instead

the tag damage from whips is what makes them overpowered

and tag debuffs last for 4 seconds iirc

[restive atlas]

even the speed increas from it its not worth?

do tag dmg stack?

[proud wren]

this bird had me crashing out, even when i win i swear it was just luck if my dashes were gonna be fast enough

[queen isle]

yes

[rose spindle]

the last attack

of poltergast

will make me

go insane

i always die to the last projectile before he dies

[queen isle]

ok so it makes your whips faster and it has like 8% multiplicative damage. that's not bad,
but morning star has 18% multiplicative and 12% crit chance. it's arguably the best whip in the game, and the other half of the argument is kaleidoscope. and they stack

i think i got those numbers wrong but close enough

[restive atlas]

ok

[queen isle]

both whips together is more than a 50% multiplicative damage increase

[restive atlas]

and i will be adding a wip mod for calamity so i will probably swap those out soon to

[queen isle]

which one

I'm pretty sure all the calamity whip mods still aren't better than kaleidoscope and morning star

i could be wrong though

[restive atlas]

this one

[queen isle]

oh I've never heard of that one

[fading dove]

i hope it doesnt add anything better than kscope

[queen isle]

lmao

[restive atlas]

adds wips up to mirical i guess

[rose spindle]

everytime i get a new whip there i test it out vs the kaleidoscope and the whip from infernum

i just take the one with the higher dps

[fading dove]

ah

so its horribly unbalanced

[rose spindle]

no

[fading dove]

its adding whips better than kscope

[rose spindle]

2k damage increase from tarragon

[fading dove]

kscope is the best weapon in calamity

[rose spindle]

whatever you say bro

[fading dove]

based on the rankings, yes, kscope is the single best weapon in the game

[fading dove]

dogshit test that does not tell you anything about your weapons

[restive atlas]

k scope is not the best

there is no way

is tag dmg THAT strong?

[fading dove]

its 1.2324x damage on a class thats already decently strong without it

[queen isle]

yeah

[rose spindle]

differentiating between ragebait and stupidity is a useful skill in real life

[restive atlas]

gees

[fading dove]

incredibly easy to hit with it too

[fading dove]

do you fight dummies

no

you don't

you fight bosses

bosses that move

bosses that force you to move

bosses that have defence

bosses that have damage reduction

[rose spindle]

mhm

[restive atlas]

i fight the special dummys to get total dps out of both my summons + wips

[queen isle]

they should add a boss that's just a dps check because fuck you

[fading dove]

a dummy is none of this

[rose spindle]

mhm

[fading dove]

which is why we test weapons for their killtimes against bosses

we do not test them for their dps

dps means nothing in the face of killtimes

[rose spindle]

who do you want me to test the whips on

[restive atlas]

SO spinal and kalidascope?

dog?

[fading dove]

depends on when the whip is obtained

[rose spindle]

then nd on the final whips?

[fading dove]

is it obtained from ml? test it on everything up to and including providence
is it post providence? test it on sentinels and polter
is it post polter? test it on old duke and dog
is it obscenely strong? test it for a couple more tiers

[fading dove]

boss rush

use cosmic plushie to disable red devil

[rose spindle]

kk bro

calm down

you test it out im not good at boss rush

[rose spindle]

the sponge 🤤

you seem to be a bit lunatic

are you a cultist perchance?

[queen isle]

i know this isn't a very realistic thing to do but i think a better way to determine how strong a weapon is would be to average all the times for a specific boss and then put it in a tier based on the standard deviation or something like that

[fading dove]

more attempts to balance out any rng is always appreciated

[queen isle]

i meant for like all weapons used on a boss

[azure bane]

yall

how do i unhide my hud

i forgot the bind

[queen isle]

because usually people are using "tiering" to either compare weapons or talk about balancing

[fading dove]

f11

[queen isle]

and the current system works fine for the balance discussion but is kind of weird for comparing weapons

[restive atlas]

k so i have started a war see yall tomarrow

[azure bane]

thanks queen

[fading dove]

np

[azure bane]

should i swap anything out (infernum scal)

[queen isle]

it's like comparing what ought to be to what is

[fading dove]

imo aegis for void sash, only sepulcher realisitically calls for a shield slam and you can just butcher it with dragon rage

[rose spindle]

wait...

i couldve skipped poltergast?

and went straight to dog?

[queen isle]

polterghast is not required

[steep cobalt]

i value melee speed so maybe swap out one of the armor pieces for its normal counterpart

[mystic notch]

hey is dark spark a good on tier magic weapon for the eater of worlds?

[steep cobalt]

eow
looks inside
sentinels weapon

[tall panther]

wtf,lifelight 210k hp!!

[steep cobalt]

masodeath?

[fading dove]

yeah lifelight's pretty tanky

[steep cobalt]

you shouldn't be bemused by the number really

[fading dove]

she also gets 60% damage reduction during the time when she's in a pyramid

[steep cobalt]

maso lifelight already has 165k hp

[steep cobalt]

you mean when she secludes back into her pyramid shaped shell?

[steep cobalt]

yeah that

[mystic notch]

actually now that I think about it where did the dark spark in my inventory even come from

I went afk for like 30 minutes came back and it was just there

[tall panther]

rev maso

[fading dove]

she also gets a bonus 0.25x damage taken when below the threshhold for phase 2 but not in phase 2

[steep cobalt]

then yeah i'm not surprised

[mystic notch]

alongside the skeletron prime regular relic for some reason

[fading dove]

yeah she gets 1.3x max hp in dlc

[steep cobalt]

she's inherently quite resilient so rev accentuating that is expected

[steep cobalt]

lifelight post plantera huh

[tall panther]

no

twins ,prime,brime post plantera LMAO

[steep cobalt]

ok

[azure bane]

yo

infernum scal lowkey beating my ass

[fading dove]

true she does that

[tall panther]

is that fine?

[fading dove]

don't wiz spider, it's not worth the accessory slot for such little damage

[steep cobalt]

instead, wiz spooky

or tiki

[digital bramble]

alr wtf is infernum profaned guardians

[steep cobalt]

or reaver

[fading dove]

since you're post plantera, spectre enchantment and leaf wings with tiki armour will massively improve your bulk

[digital bramble]

what do i do against that bs laser

[fading dove]

do you mean dogma

[tall panther]

ok thx

how about mixing staff or focus one?

[digital bramble]

idk the names of them

[fading dove]

https://tenor.com/view/the-binding-of-isaac-repentence-tboi-dogma-boss-gif-5604813749476057586

this attack

[steep cobalt]

holy shit it's the father of lies

[tall panther]

now using vengeful(1)+plant(1)+ brimseeker/raven(7)

[fading dove]

i think all in on either ravens or sand shark tornados is best

[grim falcon]

https://youtu.be/JkyouImN2Lw?si=1k55GhOAE33DiJn2&t=82 is this what youre talking about @digital bramble of the laser

[digital bramble]

at the beginning

[grim falcon]

oh flappybird

[digital bramble]

after you break the wall

[tall panther]

I tried spawn gss and no spawn

[digital bramble]

flappy bird mad easy

oh his laser circles

i didnt see that the first time

[mystic notch]

these sky islands are like giga cooked

taken by the constant meteor bombardment

not even the chest survived the attack

not nearly as cooked as the planetoids though the only remnant left of those things are like 2 blocks and maybe 10 walls

[rose spindle]

how many times does dog loop around his portal

where he releases a ring of projectiles after he exits his portal

[digital bramble]

probably a few times at least

[rose spindle]

yea maybe

[tall panther]

hallow desert wont spawn sand shark right?

[rose spindle]

uhhh

hes not anywhere

do i win?

a good run aswell

man

[merry harness]

why do i want to keep heart of the master even post prov?

[steep cobalt]

flight time

damage, crit

and numerous effects to supplement your loadout

[rose spindle]

no hit

[tall panther]

great grand shark auto despawn again.....I am not infernum...

[rose spindle]

idk if dodge counts as a hit

but

ez

[tall panther]

you are the true god

[grim falcon]

i mean, you do get "hit" with the dodge activating

[rose spindle]

i wanted to express it in other words

but chat doesnt allow me

absolutely diddled dog

when did his treasure bag drop

229 plat worth of cosmolite bars

prolly the best pet in the game

[grim falcon]

infernum does that

so you dont have to grind DoG

[rose spindle]

becoming the richest player in the game by killing 1 boss

[lilac torrent]

still dont know whether i want to use mage, melee, or summoner for my infernum playthrough and im at slime god 😭

[leaden jay]

spin the wheel

here I spun it for u

[lilac torrent]

hey wait a second

[digital bramble]

totally balanced wheel trust

it just looks like that

[tall panther]

WHAT THE FUCK? masochist.....HOW?

I killed anahita on first take....

[rose spindle]

uhm

first try

[leaden jay]

Thats because summoner is just the goat

[tall panther]

I am not very good at dodging

[rose spindle]

i thought it would be harder than this

[leaden jay]

why is your storage like that wtf

[rose spindle]

heh

[leaden jay]

didnt u upgrade the thingies

[rose spindle]

i did allat in pre hard mode

when i got to hard mode thats where i did manual labor

[tall panther]

lazy moment,just cheat sheet lmao

[rose spindle]

king 🙂‍↕️

if i grinded for magic storage in phm i woulda wasted 10 minutes

10 minutes that can be put to bosses

i can shimmer yharon soul frags for auric ore?

is that a qol mod or infernum change

[elder nebula]

basecal thing

[rose spindle]

icic

[tall panther]

definitely more

[rose spindle]

im just not the greatest at phm

what is this

[elder nebula]

the fog

the fog is coming

the fog is coming

[rose spindle]

draedon...

draed...

dreads...

draedon has dreads?

[restive atlas]

uhh we lost the battle

[tall panther]

hmm....seems nothing changed? not hard at all

[merry harness]

hows this looking

mage pre champions

[tall panther]

Raven + vengeful still good for aureus
Maybe I need epixive for ravager right?

[rose spindle]

calamity fargo doesnt have supersonic soul before provi?

[merry harness]

i dnot think so

[restive atlas]

this is my build for exo mechs am i good?

[rose spindle]

im still using mirror of kalandra

[rose spindle]

get skybreaker coil

the auric whip

my pc gets hotter playing a roblox simulator than fighting nd

[tall panther]

Starlight Fuel Cell used and DR didnt +5%...hidden parameter?

[frosty barn]

what is the best armour and weapon for profaned guardians ranger? (infernum)

[tall panther]

sorry for that

[rose spindle]

vortex afaik

and

buzz

or vortex beater

[tall panther]

tough fight,but I am on tier.....how come so fast

[rose spindle]

spider armor in the big 26

[vernal geyser]

@brazen ore did you ever get solyn to set up camp? I placed the flag as soon as I got it (suitable) and I just beat moon lord and she still hasn't set up camp lol

[brazen ore]

yeah she still hasnt

how did u beat moon lord that fast

i havent even beat the mechs yet

with my friend*

[vernal geyser]

I got the flag a couple days ago lol

[brazen ore]

oh

[vernal geyser]

she actually disappeared and I had to enable that cheat sheet mod to spawn her back in

[brazen ore]

whaa

solyn is so glitchy

[vernal geyser]

anyone know if there's a way to adjust quest progression with a command or mod extension or something?

[brazen ore]

that reminds me

do u know how to disable the text for bosses

[vernal geyser]

I don't

[rose spindle]

what happens if i noxus spray solyn

[humble void]

all of my npcs and all enemies are invisible???

except for solyn for some reason

[restive atlas]

Trying to get this thing to spawn got zerg and battle potion on and polterghyst is dead why no spawn?

[jagged parcel]

are you in Infernum?

[restive atlas]

yep

turned on everything to get it to spawn

i need its drop for the exo summon wheapon

[jagged parcel]

there's a specific, circular area in the Abyss where it will spawn

(this only happens in Infernum)

its somewhere in the final layer before the deepest part of the Abyss

[restive atlas]

oh the squid area

[jagged parcel]

yep! that's the only place where it'll spawn

[restive atlas]

got it thx i spent a good 10 minutes with the wyrm spawning and reaver shark

GOT IT

[jagged parcel]

i wish there was more documentation for Infernum's smaller changes like that, I don't blame you for not finding it easily

[restive atlas]

no longer need the the exo arms

got a big bomb spawn now

thx

now i got the milkyway wip and the galactic annyalator

cosmic*

cosmic immatiraliser

what to pair with it tho

[empty peak]

hi, im using infernum, remnants and wotg, i just...dont know if i can get solyn book thats usually in void chest since i dont have void chest at all, i used world debug but it doesnt seem to change anything

is that fixable?

[jagged parcel]

battle the Primordial Wyrm and find out! (the Absence Notice as well as the Terminus will drop anyway!)

[empty peak]

also after using debug world updater there is that error

[restive atlas]

wotg?

[humble void]

actually cannot play the game like this ive just looked all through my configs and nothing looks wrong

[restive atlas]

and remnants?

[empty peak]

oh thank you

[restive atlas]

pond dwellers npcs got echo painted lol

[jagged parcel]

you said you had enabled a mod which caused it, what mod was it?

[humble void]

its all enemies as well i cannot fight invisible leviathan

[empty peak]

wrath of the gods, remnants is a mod to change structure of the world (added that in my message just in case)

[humble void]

absoluteAquarian's infinite buffs

[restive atlas]

huh

is wrath of the gods a calamity addon?

[empty peak]

yeah

[jagged parcel]

i'm not sure why that would break anything? im not very good at terraria troubleshooting so you might need to just keep fiddling with settings

[jagged parcel]

yep! (soon to not be. eventually. its planned to become its own standalone mod someday!)

[restive atlas]

oooh

me and freind will have to do that soon then

[jagged parcel]

NO DONT DO THAT WOTG IS NOT FUNCTIONAL IN MULTIPLAYER

[humble void]

the mod isnt even installed anymore and i never touched the settings for any mods when i installed it idk what to even check

[jagged parcel]

can you provide a modlist? (either in DMs or here)

[humble void]

yeah sure hold on

[restive atlas]

time to mess with my freind >:)

[humble void]

wtf theyre back

[jagged parcel]

that's terraria spaghetti code for ya

[humble void]

tempted to try install the mod again

i shant

[jagged parcel]

maybe avoid doing that if it caused all these problems last time

[humble void]

yeah good call

[merry harness]

is cv changed in fargos dlc, he feels different and a lot longer

[glass current]

I tested if I recalled home from infernum scal desperation, I dont know whats going on cuz there seems to be no penalty?

is there a penalty to leaving the box during scal desperation or can i just recall home bruh

[restive atlas]

is the exo summon worth it?

miracle matter summon*

[elder nebula]

not even slightly

[restive atlas]

ok

what summon should i use instead

[jagged parcel]

ares' exoskeleton has basically replaced it

(one day cosmic immaterializer... one day you will have your day...)

[glass current]

nvm.. there is a penalty.. its just instant death. No gimmick stuff just straight to the point

[grim falcon]

no. only cal bosses like old duke and exos is changed.

for post moonlord

[restive atlas]

whats the optimal exo arms setup?

for calamtas whitch

[elder nebula]

2 tesla 2 plasma

or 1 of each

[restive atlas]

whitch one is the plasma

[elder nebula]

green

[restive atlas]

there are 2

is it the nuke or the other one

[elder nebula]

the nuke is yellow

[restive atlas]

oh

sorry my freind dose not know how to wait

[heavy moat]

An amusing set of bosses to rework

[tall panther]

any item to locate temple?

[elder nebula]

it's either directly above or below the vernal pass

the open area with giant plantera bulbs

[grim falcon]

[tall panther]

here?

[grim falcon]

yea

[tall panther]

found,thx

[restive atlas]

metagenisis is not worth it

[merry harness]

whenever i dash it does another dash shortly after, how do i disable this (fargos dlc)

[restive atlas]

is this worth it? we have beat calamitas...

[jagged parcel]

if you're into providence, yes! its fairly strong though you may be more into the other dev weapons

[restive atlas]

we have beat supream witch calamitas

[jagged parcel]

well, unless you have Wrath of the Gods or Fargo's DLC on, there's not much to use it on, so choose whatever you like more!

[restive atlas]

ITS FUCKING OP

I JUST WHENT THROUGH AN ENTIRE GODDAM FROST MOON WITHOUT POPING MY REVIVE ONCE

what should i use for my slots?

[verbal viper]

Istg im so confused does infernum DOG just ignore dash Iframes?

Using elysian aegis as my dash and he just straight up ignores my Iframes like 70% of the time

[jagged parcel]

have you rebinded your dash yet?

[verbal viper]

No i still use double tap but even mid dash he just completely negates my Iframes half the time

[jagged parcel]

i will always say this: PLEASE consider rebinding your dash!!! it makes Infernum DoG (and Thanatos to an extent) much more straightforward and much easier on your fingers

[verbal viper]

Do I need a mod to do so? Also what did you bind your dash to?

[jagged parcel]

but DoG ripping through your dashes could just be due to mistimed dashes, which again can be a result of still using doubletap

[verbal viper]

Tbh I can be literally mid dash where im garenteed gonna go through with Iframes and I can just get mauled for it regardless

[jagged parcel]

its an option in your keybinds, under calamity! i have it binded to my mouse4/5 (i forget which one) but it can also work when binded to an actual key if your mouse doesn't have little side buttons

[jagged parcel]

thats infernum DoG for ya

[verbal viper]

Oh really? Ill try it ty :D

[jagged parcel]

yw!! its always a big step and can take a sec to get used to but its VERY worth it

[tall panther]

wth is this golem fight....I cant fly high or guaranteed got hit

messi that messy fight....random projectiles everywhere

[restive atlas]

HOLLY SHIT

WTF IS THIS AND HOW DO I USE IT EFFECTIVELY

[obsidian helm]

what is the best rogue weapon for Providence

[haughty blaze]

This is my set with nights edge for wall of flesh am I good or?

[azure bane]

best weapon for infernum scal?

i dont trust the wiki,,

[tall panther]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-eva-eva-01-evangelion-unit-01-unit-01-gif-15082518007816600060

[restive atlas]

Exactly how I feel with it

[gloomy wedge]

Illusioner’s Reverie

[azure bane]

i meant melee

oops

[gloomy wedge]

Nadir

Dragon Rage for sepulcher

[azure bane]

well shite

[azure bane]

you mean dragon pow?

oh wait

the tmelee weapon

yeaa

[shrewd niche]

speaking of infernum scal

that thing is a demon

best weapon is probably exo blade tho right? If you've done exos first

you can one shot sepulcher with the right click followed by a couple left clicks (so not really a one shot more of an insta kill)

[azure bane]

ark of the cosmos feels unusable vs this boss

icl

so i will go back to exo

yea

[shrewd niche]

i find a lot of on tier weapons are kinda buns right near the end

ark of cosmos wasnt doing well against exos neither was zenith

on exos i used the true melee yharon thing and dragon pow

[obtuse minnow]

i swear the parry weapons arent good

[shrewd niche]

the second ark variant is amazing but every other iteration is kinda ahh yeah

[azure bane]

ark of the cosmos is so disappointing because it's just

"Yea here's ark of the elements but better lol fuck the biome blade part of the line all you get out of that is the extra range"

[shrewd niche]

biome blade falls off as well

not enough range

too gimmicky

also are you on infernum scal rn?

[azure bane]

yeh

[shrewd niche]

ayo me too

[azure bane]

well

was

[shrewd niche]

shes...

evil

[azure bane]

until my game fuckin crashed

im tired of playing melee i just wanna get this run over with so i can go back to summoner

[shrewd niche]

you and me

im doing melee rn summoner next

what point of the fight you on atm

[obtuse minnow]

same, I just wanna go on summoner

i dont wanna be on melee anymore

[shrewd niche]

see i always remember melee being the easy class did they just nerf it into the ground over the years or something?

[obtuse minnow]

polterghaist red circle ranged attack is dumb in the last phase. He goes down and then flick it up so i dont have space to dodge

[obtuse minnow]

Idk 🙏🏻

[shrewd niche]

that one attack where he lunges and then leaves a trail of perpendicular red bullets is diabolical

[obtuse minnow]

when i saw yardis killing providence with the rain sword thing (forgot the name) he did it so fast and when i tried i did like 20% of the dmg

[shrewd niche]

and then proceeds to lunge back through it making it undodgeable unless you make him go a certain way

[obtuse minnow]

i somehow dodge it

[shrewd niche]

yardis is a demon

been watching him a bit recently

some shi like 200% zoomed true melee infernum no hit hardcore no flight first try

in 3 hours

[obtuse minnow]

he gets me to the corner of my arena and uses the tendril red bullets

🙏🏻

[shrewd niche]

ah thats nasty

[obtuse minnow]

i cant dodge that

i can dodge it the first phase

but after that

he does it with like 0 space between the bullets

[shrewd niche]

the attack where he turns the arena into impossible game can catch you off guard a bit sometimes as well

[obtuse minnow]

and he spawns another cuz the physics are messed up

just flicks up

[shrewd niche]

with the circling projectiles

[shrewd niche]

yeah yeah i noticed that too

[obtuse minnow]

i know what u mean

[shrewd niche]

therell be like an unsynced one

[obtuse minnow]

i got used to it but i cant dodge the tendril bullet attack

the only one

[shrewd niche]

you on polterghast now

[obtuse minnow]

thats whats getting me kileld with the occasional hits by being stupid

[obtuse minnow]

yes

tried dog and i can see him being easy ngl. 80% of the fight is just dashing to i frame

[shrewd niche]

thinks dog is easy stuck on polter

i mean if dogs gonna be easy for you fair enough

[obtuse minnow]

polter would be easy too if he didnt have that joke of an attack

[shrewd niche]

and then does some long ass desperation attack before he dies for funnies

cant just scrape the fight on low health you gotta live

[azure bane]

how much melee crit is enough

i forgot

like 70%?

[shrewd niche]

ive never focused on those sort of specific stats like attack speed or crit so i wouldnt know lol

its either menacing or warding all the way until i die

[obtuse elbow]

100% crit

[shrewd niche]

may as well be playing warframe at that point

start hitting red crits

[tall panther]

what should I put here?

[elder nebula]

huh?

[tall panther]

cursor changed

[elder nebula]

that furniture functions as a bed

[tall panther]

Beds are furniture items that allows the player to set their spawn point. The Calamity Mod currently adds eighteen types of beds to the game, each corresponding to specific sets of furniture. Like vanilla beds, players can sleep in beds by right-clicking on the head half of them, however the Plagued 'Bed' cannot be slept in.

OH

that's plague bad

[elder nebula]

wait you can't actually sleep in it??

lmao

[tall panther]

summoner weapon for PBG?

[plain maple]

Hi all, so am using condemnation with the force of the cosmos and uh . . . Is it me or the main fire mode of this weapon doesn't trigger teh accessory ie not generating moons ?

[proud hamlet]

Lameeee

Can't sleep in a plague bed

[tall panther]

stupid martian saucer laser ray deal 670 damage to me lol

with 20% DR

[lime laurel]

just dodge it

saucer moves left and right

and if it does that shaking attack go in a circle

[lyric forge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3657644162 should i add something? (a will be playing with 4 players 2 of them have 10 h)

[tall panther]

[tall panther]

sometimes it moves at lightspeed,slightly faster than me,and shoooot laser,then i die

[proud hamlet]

That's so depressing..

[obtuse minnow]

whats that icon

[proud hamlet]

Wrath Of The Gods

Post ML

[tall panther]

imo the only boss I think final phase is easiest to deal with
at least not like gfb...laserger(<only me using this term lol)

The Ravager will only deal contact damage while slamming downwards during this jump.

[upper grove]

question, for WOTG, how can i fix solyn not moving into her new camp after using debug items to reset her questline and respawn her because she got bugged out of the map after i killed EOL?

also is there anywaay to get rid of her old camp telescope and tent?

[glossy yarrow]

guys is rouge class good for infernum