calamity-addon-talk

[frank mauve]

if u dash right then hold ur left movement key as soon as possible to "cancel" it

[amber elk]

whats better photoviscerator right click or left click

[marble crescent]

i do just like dont want to spend 100 attemps or so if im doing smth incorrectly

[frank mauve]

test it bud

[marble crescent]

uhh thats kinda what i was doing the whole time

[burnt condor]

Ok jokes aside, ngl i dont remember that last time i fought him and ive never played revengeance, best advice i can give is bait then dash but then again not even sure if thatll work

[frank mauve]

then use asgard valor or giant tortoise shell cuz dash cancel usually works great

sometimes old duke feels slow

[marble crescent]

infernum is kinda different

[marble crescent]

😭

[marble crescent]

ill try out

[burnt condor]

Oh infernum, isnt that even harder 😭

Im only playing on expert for the first time rn

[marble crescent]

infernum is harder than death, not sure abt master death tho

[burnt condor]

I see

[weak spade]

I’m pretty sure master death is harder

[frank mauve]

if ur melee check out phosphorescent gauntlet

[burnt condor]

Get yourself some ninja gear and pray the dodge activates a lot? Lmao

[marble crescent]

melee doesnt get 2 tapped i believe, im summoner

[marble crescent]

already have an amalgamated brain

which is basically 1 free hit

each minute and a half

[plucky dune]

Why is cosmic shiv one shotting polterghast

[burnt condor]

Does that stack with master ninja gear?

[frank mauve]

u could still use the gauntlet tho 🤔

[plucky dune]

I don’t think it’s supposed to do that

[marble crescent]

summon penalty 😱

[marble crescent]

idk

never used ninja gear

[frank mauve]

its not that bad

[marble crescent]

like 15%?

[frank mauve]

25% and that last phase isnt even that long

[marble crescent]

well true

[frank mauve]

and u already deal 37 billion damage

[marble crescent]

20k dps bc my build is unoptimal

[frank mauve]

20k dps on old duke or a dummy

[marble crescent]

dummy, duke gets like 12-15

[night fractal]

Multiplayer bug

[frank mauve]

thats still good

[marble crescent]

ik

but could be better imo, although survivability matters more to me

[unkempt mesa]

this should be quite tanky right?

[dusty cobalt]

can u recover though

[frank mauve]

u dont need a dash for dsp so u could fit in some more survivability

i mean u dont even need a dash for the whole scal fight anyway

[unkempt mesa]

i mean, it is pretty useful for that extra mobility

the dashes kinda saved my ass a bunch of time from the giant lazy beam attacks

[marble crescent]

uhh why?

[unkempt mesa]

specifically for tanking scal desp phase

[marble crescent]

doesnt infernum scal still 2-4 taps you?

[frank mauve]

default dash can do that aswell

[unkempt mesa]

idfk what to replace it with anyway
maybe chalice?

[fading dove]

i like void sash for the dodge and jump speed

[frank mauve]

dsr

[pure coral]

I have some good(ish) news, I may have convinced the Entropy devs to balance out the weapons (sort of) they might move how and when you get them

[frank mauve]

its also really good if ur rogue stealth since the scythes scale lol

[weak spade]

Calamity entropy 🥀

[fading dove]

damage that scales with highest class, many such cases!

[unkempt mesa]

i, uh, have no idea what dsr is

[fading dove]

dark sun ring

[pure coral]

Most busted mod ever

[unkempt mesa]

huh

[weak spade]

Blud doesn’t know about calamity overhaul

[pure coral]

the sad thing is entropy COULD be good

[frank mauve]

i wonder if a certain melee accessory is good with it...

[fading dove]

inclined to agree

[frank mauve]

dark sun ring is an accessory

[pure coral]

i do, i just love extra content

[frank mauve]

it gives 6 billion defense

[unkempt mesa]

i just don't know what dsr stand for

i know that ring lmao

[fading dove]

i told you

dsr stands for dark sun ring

[frank mauve]

d - dark - s - sun - r - ring

[unkempt mesa]

[pure coral]

Entropy moment

[unkempt mesa]

should I specifically fight her in night or day then?

cuz that ring has time based unique boost

[fading dove]

more defence 🤤

[frank mauve]

i played that mod once or twice and never again

[fading dove]

day lets you use tequila

[unkempt mesa]

one gazibilion defense my beloved (i fell for the all lucky propaganda)

[cobalt badger]

What’s this?

[fading dove]

dont forget brittle stars

[pure coral]

It makes me sad because the bosses look cool as hell (even if they arent exactly cal standard) but the weapons are just so fucking broken

[fading dove]

colosseum portal

lets you fight argus

[amber elk]

and shes dead

second try

im the goat

[frank mauve]

u can always use the weapons off tier

[amber elk]

absolute cinema

[pure coral]

from what addon?

[unkempt mesa]

infernum itself

[frank mauve]

u could prob get away by fighting scal with a hm weapon 🤔

[fading dove]

i like the boss where it has an untelegraphed unreactable charge thats not on a pattern so youre forced to play with overlay map

[pure coral]

True, and i considered that but some are just unbearable

[pure coral]

absolute Entropy

[fading dove]

(im describing cruiser phase 1 if youre wondering)

[pure coral]

wait am i dumb, infernum adds content?

[fading dove]

small bit

[unkempt mesa]

btw chat i have heard people talking mad shit about infernum old duke
i haven't actually fought him (cuz i was too busy smashing my head against DoG), is he really that bad

[frank mauve]

no

old duke is perfectly fine and normal

[fading dove]

inf old duke is the best of the three dash slop bosses, pretty good if you actually bother to learn the pattern

[unkempt mesa]

what is the other two?

[fading dove]

dog and yharon

[unkempt mesa]

[frank mauve]

the next 2 bosses

[fading dove]

yharon is easily the worst of the three

[unkempt mesa]

i found dog quite enjoyable...

[fading dove]

really shows its age

[unkempt mesa]

(at least, after i learnt of dash override existence)

[fading dove]

(yharon is the oldest inf boss)

[unkempt mesa]

(double tap fucking suck)

[amber elk]

scal

[fading dove]

(well thats still in the game)

[obtuse elbow]

DoG is currently the wall for me

[cobalt badger]

Does anyone know what’s this

[fading dove]

you were just told

[frank mauve]

i wish i knew too

[obtuse elbow]

every Infernum run i got there i skipped him using god mode

[obtuse elbow]

and then quit shortly after

[frank mauve]

lemme scroll up and see whats the answer

[unkempt mesa]

it is like, some kind of, true meleee RAHHHH

[cobalt badger]

I don’t see a boss called Argus

[fading dove]

argus, the bereft vassal

[cobalt badger]

Ok thank you

[amber elk]

yeah i was gonna do true melee but i kinda hate melee

[marble crescent]

bereft vassal's dimension entrance

[unkempt mesa]

no worry it took me 248 attempts for DoG and 99 attempts for Yharon

[obtuse elbow]

the bereft vassal own dimension breaks ur boss checklist btw

[fading dove]

this is because boss checklist fucking sucks

[pure coral]

Master rev mode brain of cthulu is the wall for me rn

[unkempt mesa]

i love how broken true melee suddenly become by post-game

[pure coral]

whaaaaaaaaat???

boss checklist hate is despicable

[amber elk]

anyway

[fading dove]

still worse than mage

[amber elk]

is two tries on scal good

[fading dove]

yeah

[unkempt mesa]

tainted legendary Iridescent Excalibur right click my beloved

[frank mauve]

boss checklist hate is normal

[amber elk]

its time...

[unkempt mesa]

that shit was evil

[amber elk]

goozma time

[loud forum]

if I were to pick calamity or infernum for a single player play through, which should I pick? played multiplayer but got ridiculously carried and didn’t get the full experience

[unkempt mesa]

diabolical

[fading dove]

worse than rainbow party cannon without oblatory

[pure coral]

I guess I'm out of the loop

[fading dove]

have you beaten calamity yet

[viral gulch]

calamity first

[pure coral]

Easiest and shortest boss i have ever played

[viral gulch]

then infernum after

[frank mauve]

boss checklist lite exists so its ok

[loud forum]

how about if I only were to play one, i’m a lot shorter on time nowadays

[amber elk]

alright so

[viral gulch]

does it actually lol

[amber elk]

what weapon do i use

[unkempt mesa]

i love how yharon's effect is so good, not only he burnt the background, he also burnt my pc irl

[viral gulch]

what's the difference with it

[weak spade]

Base cal

[fading dove]

its just a boss checklist

[viral gulch]

oh without the book

[fading dove]

it doesnt do any of the things that make the original boss checklist so unstable

[viral gulch]

i always used the book menu rather than the actual checklist to be honest

[fading dove]

it also only checks the states when you open it

[amber elk]

what weapon do i use for goozma

[fading dove]

rather than every tick all of the time

[loud forum]

alright thanks!

[amber elk]

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THE FOXY JUMPSCARE MOD

[viral gulch]

why was the original made like that, that's so silly

[fading dove]

idk

[weak spade]

L

[amber elk]

SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF ME

[obtuse elbow]

L

[amber elk]

what

[loud forum]

much appreciated lads

[weak spade]

I mean it tracks a lot more than boss checklist lite

[amber elk]

anyway

wat weapon do i use for goozma

[unkempt mesa]

i heard that scarlet devil is broken
is it really, cuz i am just scal from getting it

[weak spade]

But lite does everything you’d want it to do anyways without it breaking

[viral gulch]

ive never really had it break

[fading dove]

a boss checklist mod should not be tracking anything but boss downed booleans

[loud forum]

should I install catalyst for my playthrough or other mods that add on equipment wise or something?

[weak spade]

Yeah it’s just an explanation

[unkempt mesa]

question, what's yall's biggest roadblock in your first playthrough?

[fading dove]

progression mode is famously the cause of like 90% of boss checklist's problems

[obtuse elbow]

does boss checklist lite not have the spawn and drop thingies?

[weak spade]

I’ve had many many problems with boss checklist

[fading dove]

it tells you if the thing has been downed and how to spawn it

[loud forum]

besides QOL mods because ofc I can’t live with actually playing the game hahahahaha

[obtuse elbow]

oh then im not using it

[weak spade]

💀

[obtuse elbow]

the item drops part is useful asf

[weak spade]

The wiki exists

[fading dove]

recipe browser exists

[obtuse elbow]

im not opening the wiki everytime i defeat a boss

and the recipe browser takes longer to use than just 2 button clicks

[fading dove]

no not really

too impatient

[weak spade]

Instead of 2… it takes 3!?!!!!!???

[viral gulch]

correct me if i'm wrong but the recipe browser is 2 button clicks

one for inventory and the other for open the browser for an item

[obtuse elbow]

yeah but browsing for specific boss drops takes longer

[viral gulch]

one more click to click on the boss on the right sidebar

i used the full boss checklist too though

[fading dove]

i liked the part of boss checklist where it had guaranteed file corruption on game crash when used alongside catalyst

[frank mauve]

i love how its supposed to be a nice mod about boss progression

[obtuse elbow]

my friend why do you hate solyn

[pure coral]

yes yes yes 100 times yes

It is an amazing addon

[weak spade]

It’s an addon

[loud forum]

how about cal overhaul I also saw that in a youtube video

[fading dove]

surely

[loud forum]

any other addons I should get?

[frank mauve]

im evil

[weak spade]

No

[amber elk]

cal overhaul...

[woeful sparrow]

what mods should i get to go with calamity

[amber elk]

stealing content from stars above

[amber elk]

qol included?

[woeful sparrow]

anything

[amber elk]

what weapon do i use for goozma chat

[amber elk]

alchlite/prismas pristine potions,boss checklist,fargos mutant,quality of terraria,lui afk reborn instant platform fallthrough

these are qol

as for addons

[weak spade]

[amber elk]

catalyst,hunt of the old god

[weak spade]

Boss rush type qol

[amber elk]

wrath of the gods

[marble crescent]

depends on the class but overall just use whatever is post cal/exo's since impretty sure goozma is on tier with em, just abit harder

[obtuse elbow]

Catalyst(dont use the weapons tho) WoTG(Especially if you arent using infernum) and Hunt of the old god are some of the addons that add content

[amber elk]

im range using photoviscerator

[weak spade]

If you haven’t beaten calamity before don’t use addons

[marble crescent]

dont do addons for a first playtrough

[woeful sparrow]

im using infern

um

[obtuse elbow]

Catalyst needs a rebalance bro

[marble crescent]

might be fine

[obtuse elbow]

Metanova weapons are genuinely insane(except for summoner tho)

[marble crescent]

i'd go for heavenly gale tho to focus on dodging

[fading dove]

surge driver for sepulcher

[frank mauve]

corinth prime is lowk good for seppy

[marble crescent]

what is a good summon for dog

[amber elk]

alr

[woeful sparrow]

anymore mods

[amber elk]

its time

[woeful sparrow]

like equpment

[fading dove]

what difficulty

[marble crescent]

infernum

[night fractal]

is the answer to that not always Virid Vanguard anyway regardless of difficulty

[fading dove]

virid vangard

[marble crescent]

rev/death mode dog is nothing 🙏

[frank mauve]

prolly virid canguard and those dragons

[amber elk]

whys he lowk gobbling up all slimes

[fading dove]

stellar torus are quite good on basecal iirc

[marble crescent]

full stack or mix with sum?

[frank mauve]

why not go full sentries and use lunar portal staff

[fading dove]

all in

[marble crescent]

😭

[fading dove]

they target the head and have flawless tracking

yeah their damage isnt amazing but there's nothing better

[marble crescent]

okay ill try em out, thanks

[night fractal]

They're very playstyle dependant

[frank mauve]

old duke sentry acc deals some nice dmg if u reposition them often

[night fractal]

Virid Vanguard is second best and works regardless of you you play

[amber elk]

his existence lags me out

[woeful sparrow]

what equpment mods should i get for calamity

[frank mauve]

nothing

[woeful sparrow]

oh

[night fractal]

storm weaver mod

[marble crescent]

im uhh, not that much of a sentry fan

[amber elk]

dam idk if this is gonna work

[frank mauve]

💔💔💔💔💔💔

[marble crescent]

although rainbow crystall is just ❤️

[frank mauve]

id take sentries over summons any day of the week

[marble crescent]

actually thinking when playing the game??? no way

[night fractal]

sentries are a type of summon

[marble crescent]

sentries are good ik, its just im too lazy to use em

[weak spade]

I mean is there a reason not to use them

They have their own slots

[frank mauve]

oh yeah i forget were not supposrd to think and not have fun

[marble crescent]

yeah its infernum dont forget

[marble crescent]

nah im getting em anyway, just not replacing

since its my first infernum playtrough im kinda impressed by amount of effects some bosses do

[weak spade]

🫧 🐠

[marble crescent]

my eyes were rolling with like 3 different minions on providence

[amber elk]

god goozma is lagging me tf out

[sleek bramble]

WHY ARE HERMES BOOTS SO HARD TO FIND I SWEAR IM ABOUT TO QUIT MY RUN

[marble crescent]

just craft em

[sleek bramble]

cant find blinkroots

[marble crescent]

well uhh then idk

go get qol mods

[nimble wing]

i took 7 minutes to kill infernum dog with pre-nerf lunar portal

[frank mauve]

what about carcar 🤔

should be 2 min or less

[amber elk]

aaand

its the magic laser of doom and despair

im so cooked

[nimble wing]

i didn't try it because it doesn't pierce

figured it would be insanely difficult to make it perform well with how infernum dog works

[frank mauve]

last time ive used i had 3min easily i think

u just need to reposition and make it hit the head everytime

[amber elk]

HOW MANY PHASES DOES HE HAVE

[nimble wing]

2 and a half

[amber elk]

yup hes finally dead

but i didnt see those two attacks

aand my range playthrough has ended

anyone got some other mod to play

[thorny latch]

He did it…

[marble crescent]

fargo's souls

[maiden cobalt]

has anyone defeated Goozma with Prehardmode Loot before

since iirc all you need is a Slime Rain and Overloaded Sludge

[frank mauve]

i did back in '87 actually

[amber elk]

has to be in hm tho

[amber elk]

alr

[maiden cobalt]

aw does it

how far into hardmode

[amber elk]

i was planning on mod of redemption too but sure

as soon as hardmode begins

[maiden cobalt]

okay so you do have steampunker stuff…

intriguing

[amber elk]

steampunker?

[maiden cobalt]

yea doesnt she spawn right at hardmode start

[fading dove]

no

post 1 mech

its why wofless is possible

anyways glorious end

[frank mauve]

what would be the kt 🤔

[amber elk]

50 hours

alr chat

mod of redemption or fargo souls

or stars above?

[tranquil yarrow]

Fargos Souls + Remnants.

Cuz worldgen cool and also cursed coffin arena looks snazzy as hell I have no other reason lol

[amber elk]

what does remnants add again

[frank mauve]

gend is pretty strong so maybe around 20min

[weak spade]

Worldgen changes

🫧 🐠

[amber elk]

also do ppl really find ND hard

[tranquil yarrow]

Yeah.

I mean I don't blame them if you don't know what you're getting into yeah ND is hard.

If you know then it shouldn't be.

(Outside of that one clock attack I swear to god the visibility when that attack goes in reverse is so evil </3)

[sleek bramble]

genuinely remove cnidrons

they do absolutely nothing

just make you suffer

[elder nebula]

he will be reborn as a lotus flower

[sleek bramble]

1/10 mob

[fading dove]

remnants fucks up the golem arena

youll be fighting him enraged on eternity

[tranquil yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-gojo-satoru-nah-id-win-oligma-jjk-gif-7820693197956441404

(I have not done this yet maybe tho lol)

[fading dove]

theres specific compatibility for golem to not enrage on maso because its unbeatable in that space

[smoky dock]

kek

[gray rose]

hallo is there like a wall remover tool or sumthin

im tryna expand my arena underground but i dont wanna look at a wall

[maiden cobalt]

Ore Excavator can be set to destroy walls

[cold bane]

Guys, what is the music for pumpkin moon from vanilla calamity?

[marble crescent]

am i wrong or amalgamated brain doesnt work on infernum dog?

[cold bane]

it has a dodge cd

use asgardian aegis instead

[marble crescent]

🙏

dude i know that

[cold bane]

since it gives i-frames on hit

[marble crescent]

wont elysias be better

[marble crescent]

its called a ram dash

[cold bane]

wait

bruh

you can craft asgard aegis after dog only bruh

yeah

mb

[cold bane]

yeah use elysia

you need ram dash for dog

and worms in general

[fading dove]

[fading dove]

ClueShirt

[cold bane]

what?

[fading dove]

thanatos is nerfed to an absurd degree when you don't have a shield slam

[cold bane]

wait

[fading dove]

to the point where he's barely faster than your walking speed

[cold bane]

wdym

[fluid flax]

thanatos sucks dude

[fading dove]

dog is also pretty heavily nerfed

[cold bane]

huh

wait

infernum does that?

[fading dove]

there's even an achievement for doing inf dog without a shield slam

[frank mauve]

yeah theres 2 ai

[cold bane]

or calamity at general?

oh

[fading dove]

last time i checked basecal doesn't make dog obscenely aggressive

(ignoring the upcoming malice dog)

[marble crescent]

i think its way cooler to do him with a ram tho

[fading dove]

(which is also possible without a shield slam iirc)

[cold bane]

wait tfym malice dog???

[marble crescent]

old mode that was deleted or sum

[marble crescent]

oo cool

[cold bane]

W H A T

[slow burrow]

Hey, so dumb question
If i have infernum enabled but not turned ON and in multiplayer, do bosses still break?

[fading dove]

malice dog has 3x speed and prediction on all movement

[fading dove]

yes

you are playing tmod multiplayer

also don't use infernum without the difficulty

unless you don't care about anything in the abyss including terminus

[slow burrow]

if we disable it will shit break

[marble crescent]

so you need like super sayian or sum to beat him?

[fading dove]

no just be good

[cold bane]

wait so you won't be able to use vanilla and calamity difficulties soon?

[fading dove]

?

[slow burrow]

it says infernum does not work in mutliplayer

[cold bane]

like no more master revengance/death?

[fading dove]

tmod doesn't as a whole

[fading dove]

no more master rev or expert death

[cold bane]

I feel like it lk sucks ngl

[fading dove]

this makes it a lot easier to actually make bosses since they dont have to work on

10 difficulties

[cold bane]

fair enough

[cold bane]

so master will be just master death mode?

[fading dove]

yeah

death is just the name for cal difficulty on master

[cold bane]

bro

omg am so cooked

[fluid flax]

expert rev
master death
ftw malice

waow

[cold bane]

will I still be able to play classic terraria difficulty tho?

[fluid flax]

yes

[cold bane]

just asking

[frank mauve]

first classic player ever 🤔?

[obtuse elbow]

ii hate storm weaver

[obtuse elbow]

how good is this

[fading dove]

its a weapon

thats really all that can be said about it

worth using? absolutely not

[obtuse elbow]

what mage weapon do i use agaisnt signus

hes too fast for last prism

[fading dove]

i like plasma caster

[obtuse elbow]

why does signus slash attack almost impossible to tell when hes gonna use it

[pale pivot]

Any mods I should add or remove? I want to play all of calamity mods in infernum, https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails?id=3646233095

[fading dove]

swap out boss checklist for boss checklist lite
drop cal flamethrowers and unofficial cal whips if you're gonna run catalyst
drop shape of light and luminous water reflection if you're gonna fight devourer of gods (you will)
drop lights and shadows if you're gonna fight providence

[obtuse elbow]

DUDE

I CANT DODGE THESE SLASHES

signus is so fucking ass

[pale pivot]

ty!

[frank mauve]

when the screen turns black it means to dash away

they feel so slow icl

[obtuse elbow]

by the time i realize the screen is turning black

i already got hit by it

[frank mauve]

maybe i played too much inf cuz now i dash too soon and i get hit

[neat nexus]

what is the best class in infernum or is it dependant on the boss?

[vast chasm]

How do i summon the sandshark in infernum calamity before thr pillars

[frank mauve]

make the sandshark summon, go in underground desert to find the portal and go in it

[smoky dock]

summoner

[frank mauve]

if ur using boss checklist its time to switch to boss checklist lite

[smoky dock]

it’s the best for most bosses

In any gamemode/addon

[frank mauve]

especially for dog

[smoky dock]

Summoner is fucked up in calamity

The REAL enlightened best class is someone who doesn’t bind themselves down by arbitrarily avoiding 80% of the game’s resources

[vast chasm]

I need a solar fragment for that and i cant get them yet until i beat the pillars

[smoky dock]

But if you HAD to pick a SINGULAR class from start to finish, summoner is the least wrong

[smoky dock]

Great Sand Shark is a post-cultist boss now

[frank mauve]

yeah its meant post cultist

[vast chasm]

Oh okay

[neat nexus]

yeah meele is always as the most broken but i realised that you still get 2 shot by infernum bosses

[smoky dock]

use transmutation to get fragments early and then get fucking creamed

[smoky dock]

:false:

[obtuse elbow]

switching classes mid game is awkward as hell bro

[frank mauve]

do u have boss checklist

[smoky dock]

No boss should ever kill you in two hits

[obtuse elbow]

DoG

[frank mauve]

pls dont use boss checklist

[smoky dock]

DoG maybe

[frank mauve]

u will lose ur progress

[smoky dock]

But you can still eat DoG face hits

Did you hear about the guy that beat DoG in a 3x3 box

[obtuse elbow]

what

[frank mauve]

ive facetanked dog without toxic heart last week

[smoky dock]

He beat DoG

In a box

[obtuse elbow]

oh right

[smoky dock]

He was in jail for aggravated manslaughter

And DoG jumped him

[obtuse elbow]

that poor DoG, only wanted justice and got slaughtered

[frank mauve]

now do it without theart

[smoky dock]

I didn’t kill him we’re bros

[smoky dock]

I can heal faster without it than with it

[neat nexus]

a god shall not fear death ahh gameplay

[frank mauve]

[obtuse elbow]

if you're not cheesing him then yeah you can only tank 2 hits(especially if you dont use the ravager accessory)

[frank mauve]

even by facetanking and not moving at all?

[smoky dock]

Hell no

[frank mauve]

that was kinda hard to do in a legal way

[smoky dock]

Yeah, heart statues can theoretically heal like, uhhhhh

[frank mauve]

no thats cheating

[smoky dock]

15,000 HP/s in Calamity

[frank mauve]

no heart statues no glitch no toxic heart

[obtuse elbow]

heart statues were a mistake lol

[smoky dock]

That’s why there are only ~4 in any given world

[obtuse elbow]

specifically them having a crafting recipe

[frank mauve]

world hopping

[frank mauve]

thats prob a qol

[smoky dock]

Look if you wanna spend all that time world hopping for heart statues instead of git gud’ing then go for it

[frank mauve]

but that means u get to never die again

[smoky dock]

You’re forfeiting time to make the fight easier

[obtuse elbow]

all fights easier

teorically

[smoky dock]

teoretially…

[obtuse elbow]

should be less time than getting good at every single boss fight

[frank mauve]

what did teo do...

[obtuse elbow]

but atp why play game

[smoky dock]

Terraria is a sandbox game with boss fights tossed in

I don’t think heart statues are that big a deal

[frank mauve]

boss fights in my sandbox game? hell yeah

[obtuse elbow]

Thats more like Minecraft

[smoky dock]

You already have godlike control over the world

[obtuse elbow]

fighting bosses is like half the point of the game, the other half is building

[frank mauve]

fighting bosses is like

10% of the game

90% ur building, mining and gearing up

[smoky dock]

the community says it’s 100%

[frank mauve]

unless u use a shitton of qols

then thats on you

[smoky dock]

because the community is a ZERO that clings to the 10

[obtuse elbow]

90% of mining and gearing up is leaning towards boss fightings

[smoky dock]

i’m doing a world with instant death on at all times without QoL and boss fights are still the minority of the time

[frank mauve]

why do u think we have 3 loadouts? its for mining, building and fishing DUH!!!

[gloomy wedge]

Wait, you guys have a building loadout?

[obtuse elbow]

people who genuinely enjoy fishing in this game without fishing mods dont exist

[frank mauve]

i usually pair it with my mining loadout

[smoky dock]

yeah

[smoky dock]

false

[obtuse elbow]

i get building, it can be fun, but fishing? its the same as watching a wheel spin for a random prize

[obtuse elbow]

theres not even a minigame for it

you just watch it bob and pull

[smoky dock]

I enjoy fishing because it’s like, ten minutes tops

[frank mauve]

stardew valley

[smoky dock]

Pop YouTube or something in PiP mode and you’re good

[obtuse elbow]

Stardew Valley has a minigame for its fishing

Terraria has nothing

[frank mauve]

terraria has lava fishing which is even slower

[smoky dock]

honey fishing…

[obtuse elbow]

second best health potion pre hm

[torn shore]

I just put autofish on and go do something else

[obtuse elbow]

the best is regen potions

i only fish for the pickaxe and thats it

[obtuse elbow]

fishing only works on very small quantities, which is weird for how large the fishing loot pool is

[tranquil yarrow]

It's not the worst thing in the world.

[frank mauve]

honey fishing is not real i never get those quests

[tranquil yarrow]

Even if I'm not using QoL to the max it's nice to go out there and optimize what you do have.

[frank mauve]

ive gotten like 4 honey fishing quests in my 6 billion hours of playing

[smoky dock]

same

[tranquil yarrow]

I will say Angler sucks without QoL cuz I do like having stuff to do and places to be for quest fish but otherwise at its worst it's inoffensive.

[frank mauve]

ur qol is sundial

[tranquil yarrow]

It is indeed.

[smoky dock]

I just talk to angler and if the quest would take more than five minutes i kill him

[supple mica]

😮

[frank mauve]

that make sense

[neat nexus]

would you guys say no pylons restrictions is cheating or qol

[smoky dock]

Good protein

[smoky dock]

imo cheating

[obtuse elbow]

Ngl

i lwkey use heros mod to just teleport to where i want to be

[smoky dock]

i do have pretty anti-qol views though so

[obtuse elbow]

not on early game tho

[tranquil yarrow]

At that point just get Alchemist NPC World Warpers cuz at least it costs money.

[smoky dock]

That might not be a majority opinion

[obtuse elbow]

ofc i walk on early game

[smoky dock]

Why not just use Teleporters??????

I go down the abyss ONCE

[obtuse elbow]

because i dont wanna make a metric line of wites

wires

[smoky dock]

Every subsequent time I skip the trip

[frank mauve]

bubble blocks under abyss 🤤

[smoky dock]

Why not? It’s easy, cheap.

[tranquil yarrow]

Wiring is not that cheap but go figure lol

[obtuse elbow]

cuz im lazy, i only ever go down to the abyss to mine a single ore and fight a single boss

[smoky dock]

You have to go down twice for that

[neat nexus]

and do you guys make wof arena by hand or with mods

[frank mauve]

what about abyss loot 🤔

thats like 4 times at least

[obtuse elbow]

yeah and by that time im just tping myself everywhere

[smoky dock]

I don’t make a WoF arena

[frank mauve]

use drunk seed for a free arena 🤫

[smoky dock]

I use the Brimstone Crags or Profaned Garden and beat WoF before it reaches the obsidian housing

[tranquil yarrow]

By hand if there is something I don't want destroyed or tampered. Blow up a Double Obsidian Instabridge otherwise.

[obtuse elbow]

Fargos Mutant's for the arena

[smoky dock]

A WoF arena exchanges time for an easier fight

[neat nexus]

same but i still need the arena for profaned guardians in infernum

[smoky dock]

I can tolerate the harder fight, thus saving thr time

[frank mauve]

wdym

[obtuse elbow]

wdym

[neat nexus]

the temple

[obtuse elbow]

you cant build an arena for them im 100% sure

[tranquil yarrow]

Truly living up to the name tho I can't imagine no arena true melee wof lol

[gloomy wedge]

That’s a structure the instabridge specifically won’t destroy

[velvet karma]

What weapon should I get as a mage, Infernum, pre-golem?

[gloomy wedge]

The LuiAFK one will destroy the profaned garden though

[fading dove]

glorious end 🤤

[gloomy wedge]

So don’t use LuiAFK

[velvet karma]

no

[gloomy wedge]

Atlantis is pretty good

[smoky dock]

When I did legendary Infernum I did build an arena but it was fucking tiny. Five minute build tops

[frank mauve]

dont fall for the trap its a rogue weapon

[neat nexus]

yeah i saw video how someone destroyed it so im scared

[smoky dock]

Play it safe and don’t use it, or use a world backup

[obtuse elbow]

i dont get gloriius end

[gloomy wedge]

That’s only possible with fargos if you’re not smart with your configs

[frank mauve]

fight wof inside the profaned garden

[gloomy wedge]

You stack a looooot of defense and then spam it

[pale pivot]

can it be playable with light mods? i have a beefy comp 5080 ryzen 9 9950x3d 64 gb ram

[gloomy wedge]

Ideally with mana cuffs

[velvet karma]

Will Lashes of Chaos be good enough for Leviathan?

[obtuse elbow]

ohhhhhhhhhh

[frank mauve]

stupid weapon

[smoky dock]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1112873622562947104/1457576368790306951/s6OI3ww.mp4?ex=69690786&is=6967b606&hm=bba6a9b67c183b5c82868bcfcbefe01ddd79a11786b0bfb50f542a5d3fe8fbfa&

[gloomy wedge]

Try it and see

[obtuse elbow]

thats why it didnt work for me when i was reccomended it

[fading dove]

shader mods sacrifice visibility (on prov) and sometimes entirely fuck everything up (dog)

[obtuse elbow]

WHAT

[fading dove]

dog's background starts strobing if you have shape of light iirc

[velvet karma]

thats just boring to play

[gloomy wedge]

It requires very specific builds

[smoky dock]

yeah that’s why I didn’t play it

[gloomy wedge]

Yeah so turns out Glorious End doesn’t deplete your stealth bar when you use it, and Hide of Astrum Deus’ stars are affected by stealth due to a coding error

[smoky dock]

I woke up one day
Booted up the test world
Cheated in appropriate progression
Killed him
Went to sleep

[obtuse elbow]

signus is lagging the shit outta of me

[fading dove]

turn backgrounds off

[smoky dock]

no it’s 100% intentional

[fading dove]

hoad stars scale with highest class intentionally

[smoky dock]

HoAD’s retribution is affected by the highest class’ damage%

[gloomy wedge]

Oh lmao

[obtuse elbow]

is there a mod that optimizes WoTG?

[gloomy wedge]

WotG

[smoky dock]

Stealth just increments a looooot of rogue%

[frank mauve]

tmelee hits are melee damage but getting hit is typeless damage

[fading dove]

and im guessing glorioud end was intended to be a movement tool and not a springboard for killing everything

[smoky dock]

It was intended to be funny haha just like kirbouy

[frank mauve]

u can fight bosses with only glorious end as movement

[gloomy wedge]

So anyways Glorious End is better on boss rush than Earth last I checked

[fading dove]

its like exo box which is fucking insane how did nobody realise this before

[gloomy wedge]

I wonder how good it is on AoE

[frank mauve]

pair with summoner its so free

[pale pivot]

ah i see so do people turn it off during the boss fight?

[fading dove]

sometimes that doesnt help

its best to just disable shader mods just in case

[pale pivot]

gotcha

tyt

[obtuse elbow]

how good r these

and this too

[lyric barn]

when does titanium in infernum start to be there

[tranquil yarrow]

Oh this one.

[frank mauve]

after 2 mech bosses

[tranquil yarrow]

My god I'm still trying to lab that one out in the low tier run though current opinion is it's straight ass for a D tier weapon lol

[lyric barn]

after 2

okey thanks

[tranquil yarrow]

Expected but I've had better performances.

[frank mauve]

wof - first tier
1st mech - second tier
2nd mech - third tier

[lyric barn]

thanks a lot

I already defeated 2

[obtuse elbow]

what about magnetic meltdown

[lyric barn]

idk why but skeleton prime was the easiest boss prob out there took only 3 tries

[tranquil yarrow]

Have not seen that one yet so dunno.

[frank mauve]

i dont wanna sound mean but have u ever heard of testing?

[tranquil yarrow]

I mean they're prolly here under the implication that at least one of us have done the math.

[frank mauve]

yeah but if u keep telling someone what to do what to choose then are they really playing?

[tranquil yarrow]

Well their choice to listen to the recommendation :P

Thousands of ways to play the game. It'd only be natural to want an informed opinion.

[obtuse elbow]

hi squidward

it unironically deals 40k dps

without a melee build

[obtuse elbow]

tbf

i dont really have a good idea of whats good and what isnt

i used prince for a lot of time until i was told i had better options

yeah im not using this weapon

[half prism]

so uh i just beat the Bereft Vassal before i beat lunatic cultist on infernum? (i gave myself the spawner for him to fight him early)

[obtuse elbow]

im not even using a melee build

my damage could be much higher if i focused on melee

[elder nebula]

okay?

[obtuse elbow]

idk why

[half prism]

then make it?

[obtuse elbow]

bereft vessel is shown before cultist

when its locked behind a fragmentt

[elder nebula]

it's post plant in basecal

[obtuse elbow]

dude im just saying

i killed the boss in less htan 30 secs

without a melee build[

this weapon is insane

[tranquil yarrow]

Great Sand Shark is supposed to be a post plantera thing but Infernum makes Bereft Vassal a thing and retiers it to post cultist.

[half prism]

they made it require a solar frag and made it harder

[elder nebula]

i am aware

[obtuse elbow]

now i wonder

how high can this go

[tranquil yarrow]

It's intentional for Infernum.

[half prism]

but like why did they do it

why the switch

[elder nebula]

it's very complicated

lotta drama

[half prism]

also what gamemode yall playing rn?

[elder nebula]

revengeance

[half prism]

im on fargos + infernum + wrath of gods

[elder nebula]

eternity and infernum are completely incompatible

[tranquil yarrow]

I couldn't tell you.

Lucille made the mod and adjustments not me lol

[half prism]

what ill do is beat infernum, then switch gamemode to master with item, then beat all the fargos bosses on eternity

[obtuse elbow]

Dude

what is this weapon

[half prism]

and make sure i have balanced build for it

[tranquil yarrow]

I'm doing a new infernum run with the express purpose of seeing how much I can ruin the game.

[half prism]

you can just skip all the bosses up to wall of flesh

[tranquil yarrow]

Oh I mean weapons not boss progression.

[half prism]

like all prehard are skippable

[half prism]

ah

[tranquil yarrow]

Speaking of which, do you have a go to pre boss weapon you gun for the moment you spawn in?

[half prism]

what?

[thorny latch]

They mean a weapon you try to get your hands on as soon as possible when starting a new world

[tranquil yarrow]

When you create a new character for a run what weapons are the first thing you go for?

[half prism]

probably ice boomerang or ice sword, i love the snow biome

[obtuse elbow]

with accessory reforges

[tranquil yarrow]

Alright we'll see if they can be drilled.

[half prism]

no i got a funnyer idea

you go to sulferus sea

save angler

and let him be killed by a croc right after

[tranquil yarrow]

Ooh elaborate.

[half prism]

dropping a golden fishingrod

then get the fish pick

it can mine hellstone

and you get hellstone before beating a single boss

[tranquil yarrow]

Anything in particular I can get there pre boss?

[half prism]

all thats preboss...

[tranquil yarrow]

Oh mb my message buffered lol

[tranquil yarrow]

Well in that case any hellstone weapons you'd want me to try out?

[half prism]

idk bro just do anything

i just remembered this is possible

[obtuse elbow]

anyways

time to fight polter

[hollow veldt]

Can anyone tell me how to fix this

[frank mauve]

u should use only what u find fun not necessarily optimal 🤔

[tranquil yarrow]

Well yeah I just need something a little more specific.

For testing :>

[obtuse elbow]

what would be fun bro

[half prism]

dude idk bruh

i gotta sleep

[obtuse elbow]

99% of the weapons are hold m1 at target

[tranquil yarrow]

Alright it's cool no worries lol

[indigo kiln]

kill goozma. from hunt of the old god

[tranquil yarrow]

Might as well fill it in with Molten Fury and call it a day.

[hollow veldt]

@indigo kiln thanks

[indigo kiln]

summon it via placing a ninja statue with 4 slime statues, 2 on both sides. use a gelatin crystal to start a slime rain. summon king slime and throw an overloaded sludge at him

it's a really weird summon method but eh

[tranquil yarrow]

Well while I'm also at it anyone else here please feel free to suggest any other pre boss weapon for me to throw at the wall.

[barren prawn]

scals desolation has to be the most poorly telegraphed attack in the entire infernum

why doesn't that thing have any useful indicator on which direction the first sweep is

[tranquil yarrow]

Anyway it begins. Congrats the Ice Blade can in fact be drilled.

[half prism]

WHAT IS THAT

[half prism]

OK NOW DO FLOWER FROM DARK CHESTS

[trail crest]

hai

i recently started playing terrarai and i was wondering where i should build my arena

[tranquil yarrow]

Noted will do post skeletron.

[half prism]

now imagine the star fury thing that drops from moon lord

[barren prawn]

right on top of your base and make it as wide as the world

[trail crest]

oh

idk im so lost 😭

[tranquil yarrow]

Alright Star Wraith also added to the list.

[barren prawn]

(you don't need a world arena for anything in basecal or inf)

[obtuse elbow]

im feeling too lazy to make a polterghast arena sighhh

[barren prawn]

fight it in the library?

[hollow veldt]

@indigo kiln thanks

[granite bough]

uh

calamity entropy disappeared from steam what the fuck

idgaf how busted it was it was super high quality wtf happened 😭

the github repo is still accessible

[trail crest]

what would i need for the eye of chutulu with eternity master mode and revengance enabled

[smoky dock]

Probably just a generally strong all-around loadout. Maybe using a debuff build with Plasma Rod, lead enchantment, wulfrum enchantment, etc

Souls gives a ton of diversity in build options so there's dozens of strats you can use

[trail crest]

this is what i have rn

[smoky dock]

Needs improvement. Masochist mode is no joke.

[trail crest]

i dont think i ahve masochist mode

[smoky dock]

You do <3

[granite bough]

Maso mode is fucking nuts

[trail crest]

idk i have eternity

[granite bough]

prepare as much as you can.

ah

[smoky dock]

Master mode + Eternity mode = Masochist mode

[frank mauve]

are u on master

[trail crest]

yeah

[granite bough]

then its probably masomode

[frank mauve]

then its masochist

[trail crest]

oh god

[granite bough]

prepare.

[trail crest]

its my third playthrough btw

[granite bough]

oh good god

[frank mauve]

say hi to the blue eye of cthuluhu

[smoky dock]

Upgrade your Silly Little Bottle to Yellow Horseshoe Balloon

[trail crest]

i found the second one boring bcz it was to oeasy

[frank mauve]

or teal colored

[trail crest]

yeah its like aqua

[smoky dock]

Upgrade your Silly Sock to Lightning boomts, if you'd like

[fading dove]

if youve got a hook thats enough for trojan squirrel

[smoky dock]

Get enchantments, get high tier preboss accessories, improve your armor

[trail crest]

i didnt even know there was enchantments lol

[smoky dock]

maso mode EoC isn't really something you can skimp out on

[fading dove]

fossil ench is pretty easy to get and is one of the best for a long time

[trail crest]

ive been playing for 5h 😭

[fading dove]

it only kinda falters on wof and is viable up until you upgrade it

anyways dont do eoc yet

[trail crest]

i thought i was a bit overgeared for the eye lmao

[fading dove]

make sure to do trojan squirrel, king slime, and desert scourge first

tungsten ench is big crowd control and buffs melee a bit

[trail crest]

wait so do i get fossil or tungsten enchantment

[fading dove]

both

get every ench

ancient cobalt is quite good too

vertical mobility 🤤

[trail crest]

am i undergeared for the trojan squirrel

[gloomy wedge]

not really

but you might struggle with it

[fading dove]

as long as youve got a hook, puff in a bottle, and eurus socks youre fine

though a piercing weapon is recommended

like shurikens

[trail crest]

lmao

[gloomy wedge]

the immediate first enchants id say you should get are palm wood (really strong sentry weirdly enough), rich mahogany (BIG ASS HOOK), and platinum

[trail crest]

alr

[gloomy wedge]

after that you can work on ancient cobalt which is the best enchant in pre hardmode

[trail crest]

platinum is so rare to find lol

[lyric barn]

how to be faster under water to defeat aquatic scurge?

[waxen tide]

doesnt as disable water physics or smth

[trail crest]

YES I DID THE SQUIRREL.

[lyric barn]

what

[trail crest]

wait can i grow the gem tree anywhere bcz the squirrel sells those and i could farm ore with it

i got the squirre hook yay

[glass current]

Water physics are removed and you get infinite flight

So treat it as normal arena

[lyric barn]

and how i get infintie flight brother

can i already?

ah nvm

i read it wrong

!!

[glass current]

[lyric barn]

and i dont need to breath?

right?

and the sulphur effect goes awaay?

[trail crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnYN74uSJt8

their game look sick as hell

[remote fox]

is catalyst and wrath of the gods compatible with multiplayer?

[trail crest]

thought the world was in master

[delicate furnace]

Play Infernal Eclipse of Ragnarok for the first time

Which boss first

[trail crest]

how do i get my game to look like that

like the font

[frank mauve]

im guessing its a texture pack

[delicate furnace]

What does "Don't disable this" mean

[deep marsh]

The first one

[delicate furnace]

Shut the hell up

[deep marsh]

I’m being serious

Check the boss checklist

[gloomy wedge]

Grand Thunder Bird

[delicate furnace]

Thank you

[barren prawn]

261 pulls for first kill inf scal with exo blade

takes like 5min30s if you save rage for brothers attack3

[trail crest]

where can i find the wiki for frago soul dlc with calamity

[bitter jacinth]

ngl i never expected to pull this

i thought FPS would stop me from doing it

[storm ether]

uh

what do i do if i cant purify the astral blight

[plucky dune]

what are the best bullets with the cosmic viper engine

[glass current]

is it more fun to go full defense or full offense (infernum)

full defense less dmg, full offense die faster

[gloomy wedge]

Try both and see what you prefer

[fading dove]

thats really old

like pre 1.7

[trail crest]

oh

is my current gear enough for EoC masochist

my word is in expert i dont know if im in masochiust or not

eternity and reveangance neabled

[spare holly]

masochist is master eternity

[trail crest]

oh well im not in masochist but myh EoC is blue

[fading dove]

you can tell if youre on eternity or maso if you hover over the souls difficulty icon

loadout's quite weak

[trail crest]

eternity-reveangance

[fading dove]

the only thing it has is okayish defence

no mobility

[trail crest]

true

i have no clue where to find information about what i need

[obtuse elbow]

Aaaa i hate inf polter

[obtuse elbow]

i cant dodge the dashes that leave a projectile

[glass current]

I have, but with offense I see hp bar go down fast is fun but takes 100+ attempts at max.

With defense my hp bar doesnt go down and at max it takes 20 attempts per boss

[shadow silo]

Eye

[glass current]

Infernum wof

[glass current]

So when offense build I get satisfaction of hitting without getting hit, but it can take a toll on mental health if too many attempts and burnout

In defense its just genuinely easier you dont have to dodge everything but you get less satisfaction of generally killing the boss with low attempts

[supple hearth]

polyphemalus calamity community remix

[shadow silo]

Wrong

[supple hearth]

😔

[shadow silo]

It's polyphemalus from the polyphemalus mod

[supple hearth]

mm

[jolly dune]

yo what i change to asgard valro for providence?

[storm ether]

nobody knows why i cant uh clentaminate purify the astral infection?

[glass current]

U js cant i think (im still pre ml so idk)

[storm ether]

damn 💔

it took like 90% of my tundra biome

[glass current]

My guess is the clentem upgrade u get from shimmering it could work

Post ml

Btw if u have trouble w cryo ore, theres more the deeper u go since some parts arent taken over by astral

[storm ether]

the deeper i go the worse it gets i fear

[supple mica]

Green solution in clentaminator should work on astral infection. The upgraded terraformer is just a bigger spray with ammo conservation.

[storm ether]

heres proof it isnt working

(obviously it wont work on the ore)

[fading dove]

somehting changes your clentaminator

it doesn't spray in a fan like that

[storm ether]

yeah

i have uh

[supple mica]

Shoot nice catch.

[elder nebula]

-# don't say overhaul

[fading dove]

thatd do it

[supple mica]

So this is likely the cause.

[storm ether]

no?

it literally works on all other clentaminator things

i tell you what tho

[supple mica]

Calamity is likely making a call to vanilla clent and solution.

[storm ether]

ill still try it

[glass current]

How bout just do no biome spread mod

[storm ether]

the actual clentaminator is still vanilla but i have an accessory that quadrouples the uh range

[fading dove]

its likely only checking the vanilla list

[storm ether]

i have that on

[jolly dune]

hello

[storm ether]

but im still missing 90% of my tundra

[fading dove]

and dirt isnt the result of any purification in vanilla

[supple mica]

Astral doesnt spread, it just hits a big chunk of the dungeon side of your map.

Usually right beside the dungeon.

[storm ether]

yeah but how do i un astral it

[supple mica]

Clent with green solution.

[storm ether]

i did?

[glass current]

Yk what i did? Specifically just to house npcs there, i went to cheat sheet and get me some white solution

But spread it on the grass instead

[storm ether]

maybe

[supple mica]

Yeah but if you are using a mod that is changing something about your solutions then calamity isnt hitting it. Obviously it will clentaminate vanilla stuff since the mod is targetting vanilla.

[storm ether]

it just changes the range

it clentaminates the uh

lesser astral

but not the astral blight

[supple mica]

So blight is from calamity vanities and is an alternate themed version of the same biome.

[glass current]

Sometimes when times are tough and the thing you're dealing with is very nieche I say cheat sheet to victory

[storm ether]

it do be lookin like a cheat sheet moment but i dont have it enabled rn

[trail crest]

whats some mobility i could get

[storm ether]

moab

[trail crest]

moab?

[storm ether]

fargos soul moab

[glass current]

God send wings

Thats fargos?

[gloomy wedge]

Build?

[storm ether]

so its an issue with calval?

[supple mica]

Shouldnt be. The blighted astral from calval is both spread and cured by clentamination.

[trail crest]

melee but i dont have really a lot of good stuff rn let me send a screenshot

[supple mica]

Same as the astral infection.

[gloomy wedge]

Grab ancient cobalt enchant

And terrasparks

[trail crest]

im not sure which enchant are good

[gloomy wedge]

Plus yellow horseshoe

[trail crest]

terraspark???

[gloomy wedge]

All of them

There are no bad enchantments (except forbidden)

[supple mica]

Terraspark are best prehm boots.

[gloomy wedge]

You should experiment at every possible opportunity you get

[supple mica]

Decently easy to get too.

[gloomy wedge]

That’s where most of the fun with fargos comes from

[storm ether]

ok well ill try disabling the mod to see if that works

[trail crest]

i never found ancient cobalt

[gloomy wedge]

You can shimmer jungle armor to get it

[supple mica]

Yeah, Id take off any mods with touch clentaminator or solutions and take a whack at it with a vanilla clent.

[trail crest]

im prehard mode

[gloomy wedge]

Yeah

[trail crest]

i dont have shimmer

[gloomy wedge]

Yes you do

Shimmer is pre boss

[storm ether]

i dont have any other mods that explicitly touch purification like that