calamity-addon-talk

[little forum]

ok cool, thanks!

[jolly geode]

np

[little forum]

wait wut? He looks SO intense for a pre moonlord boss.

[jolly geode]

yeah, he's a superboos

boss

[little forum]

damn

[jolly geode]

but its an awesome fight, its worth it

[spare summit]

Those 4 work together

Unfortunately hotog is a steaming pile of rubbish

But they all work at least

[little forum]

yeah, he looks awesome and I did want a challenge for this playthrough

[jolly geode]

infernum old duke's hits are so bullshit, i'm either blind or he is hitting me during my ram dash 😭

[jolly geode]

good luckk

[little forum]

oh, wdym by dis?

[spare summit]

Goozma fight looks cool but is terrible to play
Has extremely stupid and convoluted summoning methods
Has terribly unbalanced weapons
Locks you out of shadowspec until you kill it despite it adding nothing to the recipe, it just says “hey you can’t use this”

[little forum]

ah ok, I'll just unistall if it gets annoying I guess. I'm just mainly there for the superboss aspect, not the items. If it locking me out of shadowspec becomes an issue I just uninstall as well.

Thanks for the help!

[fading dove]

it does add its dropped material

though yeah the fight sucks

the drops range from very bad (gobflogger) to broken (scythe of the old god)

[gloomy wedge]

technically speaking it is a post-wof boss

you shouldnt have a post-yharon boss be accessible post-wof

[fading dove]

the spawn anim takes way too long and is unskippable

[gloomy wedge]

yeah that too

[fading dove]

takes way too long especially on lower end devices

[gloomy wedge]

plus, not exactly its fault, but exo box trivializes the entire fight so hard

[velvet karma]

someone please give me a setup for mage on calamitas clone, master infernum

im dying on twins doesnt matter what i try
^ pre plantera
or should I kill plantera first

[finite hill]

Arch amaryllis for weapon, chloro armor, send me your loadout

[velvet karma]

Sparkling Mangolia for 1st set (adamantite armor) and Glorious End for 2nd (mollusk armor)

I get to twins with relative ease though losing a lot of health, then just die no other options

everything is on warding and weapons on mythical

[velvet karma]

I cant craft arch it's post moonlord

i need calamitas clone not the witch

[finite hill]

You need more mobility, upgrade wings to bee wings/harpy wings

[finite hill]

Mb its the gleaming magnolia youre using right

[steady ore]

Any clue as to why the game freezes whenever you get to the third faze of aoe

[velvet karma]

Yes

[velvet karma]

Anything else I should do?

[finite hill]

Replace luxors with either celestial emblem or harpy ring for more mobility

[velvet karma]

Chloro armor instead of adamantite?

[finite hill]

If youre using ada then its also fine

Chloro has a healing aura that does help a bit

Only a bit

[fading dove]

a tiny bit

its like 7hp every 5 seconds

not even 1 regen

[velvet karma]

0 hp < 7 hp

[finite hill]

[fading dove]

band of regen gives more regen

[steady ore]

Does no one else have this problem except for me

[dense knoll]

Is it worth to use the calamity weapons overhaul mod?

Some weapons are pointless

[fading dove]

doze's weapon overhaul? yes

it gives a sneak peek of whats to come in brainstorm

[dense knoll]

And i have an hard time with some tutos

[finite hill]

Either way your build is too tailored towards offense, use a defensive accessories too

[dense knoll]

No idea whats that

[finite hill]

Next cal update

🧠

[fading dove]

the best calamity weapon overhaul mod on the market right now

[velvet karma]

Such as?

[fading dove]

ursa sergeant

[velvet karma]

I have it

[finite hill]

Just, use any mobility/defensive item you can rn

Infernum does punish you heavily when you dont have enough mobility

[velvet karma]

I figured that out

[gloomy wedge]

assuming you mean calamity overhaul, no

its reworks are low quality and it steals from other mods

[dense knoll]

Ye mb

It makes progression painfully

So should i struggle with it or

[gloomy wedge]

no

again, it steals from other mods

just dont support it

[dense knoll]

Ty

Wouldve did it either way

Just make the calamity guide kinda bad

[brisk lagoon]

does anyone know of a good shader mod i can add to the game to make it more vibrant?

[elder nebula]

fancy lighting

i also recommend realistic sky (although it doesn't work when you're flipped upside down)

[brisk lagoon]

just installed lights and shadows its not bad

[elder nebula]

yeah, problem is that it makes cryogen and providence's projectiles nearly invisible during the day

[brisk lagoon]

may look into fancy lightig

oh wow

is fancy lighting similar?

[elder nebula]

i think so

[brisk lagoon]

but i guess more refined

[vestal gate]

Wait

Why should I use fairy boots over angel treads

[bitter jacinth]

hey

yknow about Ares desperation phase red filter right

[frank mauve]

u can use light and shadows with fancy lightning together

[bitter jacinth]

which graphic setting is that thing dependent on

[brisk lagoon]

yea makes my game look way better now lokl

[frank mauve]

yeah but the bloom at night can be blinding ngl

[wraith nymph]

stardust armor for prof guardians if im not using sentries right>

[spare summit]

Last I remember it just put a lock on every shadowspec weapon and added a tooltip that said “Nuh uh” or something

[spare summit]

Yes

[vestal gate]

Sooo how am I supposed to summon old duke if my sea is gone 😔

[wraith nymph]

these accessories with elemental axe +kaleidascope all good?

this boss gonna take a while

[maiden cobalt]

elemental heart spotted

Vaporize that and get yourself an Ampoule

[spare summit]

To be honest I haven’t played pure summoner in a very long time idk if heart of the elementals is good anymore

But other than that looks good

[vestal gate]

Hey can u help me 😔

[spare summit]

I prefer starboard to other wings but stardust is actually good unlike vortex and nebula

[maiden cobalt]

hm

you need 4 tiles of water at the sulphuric sea

[vestal gate]

What am I supposed to do if my sulphous sea is gone? Like how am I gonna summon old duke?

Liek 4 deep?

[maiden cobalt]

he also just spawns at the end of the Acid Rain

no

like a 2x2

[spare summit]

How does that even happen lol

[vestal gate]

Don’t ask

[spare summit]

I asked

[wraith nymph]

was thinking that,tyy

[vestal gate]

I dug into it 😔

[vestal gate]

He ain’t bitin?

[spare summit]

I’m pretty sure you also need enough sulfur sand blocks for it to count

[vestal gate]

I’m just gonna do an acid rain

[bitter jacinth]

nvm found it

[frank mauve]

do 1 axe rest fuel engine

[spare summit]

also Morningstar is better than kaleidoscope I forgot to mention

[frank mauve]

nah i tested kalei was still better

maybe in later stages morningstar is better

[spare summit]

Maybe it’s just for later bosses then

Yea

I don’t think I’ve played calamity summoner since whips released in 1.4 I shouldn’t be talking

[bitter jacinth]

IT IS POSSIBLE

i just need a big true melee sword to hit Ares in the predictive laser phase to regain flight time

[frank mauve]

why is ur arena this big 🤔

[vestal gate]

Old dukes scales good?

It sounds eh

[fading dove]

no

its very niche

[regal orbit]

fargos masochist=master and eternity=expert right

[fading dove]

yeah

[regal orbit]

is masochist comparable to death

should i do it first playthru

[fading dove]

no

eternity is a bit above expert death

[regal orbit]

i did play master death so idk how it compareds

[fading dove]

imo on par with infernum

maso makes eternity look like classic

[regal orbit]

gulp

ill stick with eternity for now

[fading dove]

good plan

[gloomy wedge]

so calhaul eviscerator is good as a weapon but its very bad if you like seeing stuff

SO much dust

look at all of it

[fading dove]

jesus fucking christ

[thorny latch]

As a Warframe player, I am four parallel universes ahead of you

[fading dove]

i thought that was 2100 damage but its just two crits overlayed

214 and 100

[vestal gate]

Bro why can I genuinely not beat ceaseless void im using an old duke weapon 😭

[frank mauve]

infernum?

[vestal gate]

No just add

Ass

I killed poltergeist before ceaseless 😭

[frank mauve]

basecal cv is great 🤔

[vestal gate]

What?

[fading dove]

calamity without addons ceaseless void is great

[vestal gate]

Well I don’t any that alter tht fight I think?

Unless wotm and old god do

[fading dove]

they dont

[vestal gate]

Ok then why can’t I do this 😭

[frank mauve]

are u moving around alot?

[vestal gate]

Maybe I need to make the arena bigger?

It’s around 1 city buster big

[frank mauve]

yeah but why are u dying

are u moving around too much or

cuz cv arena should suffice

[vestal gate]

The orb thingies are doing crazy damage

[frank mauve]

could loadout issue 🤔

[vestal gate]

I’m using the blood armor for rogue and almost everything suggested here (no absorber)

Sorry I can’t send loadout rn tho 😭

[frank mauve]

is that 10 slots 🤔

[vestal gate]

Don’t ask my friend added a extra slots mod 😭

[frank mauve]

honestly its a good loadout icl

exodus wings tho 🤔

[vestal gate]

But I have the blood armor on so I changed vampire for profane gaurdian little guys

Oh yeah I changed that to the prov wings

And the shield to the prov one

[frank mauve]

were u doing cv in multiplayer

cuz that might be it 🤔

[vestal gate]

Nope

And I’m getting it to like 30 everytime but the orbs lowkey cook me

Wait why did I start this convo in calamity addon

[smoky dock]

bad pact mentioned

[rain grove]

devourer is gonna make me cry

😭

[smoky dock]

he does that yes

[heavy moat]

Trying to mess with non-Euclidean space and it's, uh, well it's certainly going

[elder nebula]

what the fuck

how has the engine not collapsed into a singularity

[obtuse elbow]

this new terraria update has gone too far

[frank mauve]

nilk v2 🤔

[heavy moat]

Suffice to say I need to reduce the curvature a bit
Crazy effect, not so fun when you need to deal with a boss

[obtuse elbow]

on storm weaver how am i looking

[frank mauve]

id still use nebula armor ngl

[smoky dock]

You have way too much offense

I’d suggest dropping Celestial Shell with The Absorber

[obtuse elbow]

i've challenged myself to it

[smoky dock]

Alright then

[obtuse elbow]

felt like i was letting myself be carried by defense too much

[smoky dock]

Ah, very valid

I’d still suggest dropping something though. Celestial Shell for Soaring Insignia sounds appropriate

Or any mobility accessory, really

[obtuse elbow]

mobility hasnt been much of an issue but ill try it out

anyways what weapon should i use for storm weaver

[frank mauve]

last prism

[smoky dock]

holy collider

[frank mauve]

i thought u hated holy collider

is this the real prikki

[nimble wing]

see this is a good reason not to use terraria defense

[obtuse elbow]

im mage

[smoky dock]

Not anymore.

[obtuse elbow]

NOOOOOO gets dragged back into true melee hell

i hate true melee infernum after i tried it out during my first time playing infernum(big mistake as you could expect)

[nimble wing]

true melee infernum is really fun IF YOU HAVE THOROUGH PRIOR EXPERIENCE.

so yeah

[obtuse elbow]

it was fine........

but like

skeletron and profaned guardians are

https://tenor.com/view/norinias-markiplier-fire-engulfed-hell-gif-8367353870641558879

[frank mauve]

guards are the best

[obtuse elbow]

they took me like

damn near 200 attempts

[nimble wing]

skele true melee nohit was actually pretty okay to me

and keep in mind i can't just risk tanking it in a nohit

[frank mauve]

inf skeletron when u go above his head during the rain attack

[nimble wing]

i think guards true melee is super fun the more you learn it

[frank mauve]

that cryogen tmelee nohit was absurd

[nimble wing]

both of those bosses are heavy learning curves tho

[obtuse elbow]

CRYOGEN WAS SO FUNNY FOR ME

I BASICALLY KILLED IT WITH STAR CLOAK

[nimble wing]

true melee cryo suuuuuuuuuucks 🥀

[obtuse elbow]

ENDED THE FIGHT WITH LIKE

50 OR MORE HITS

[nimble wing]

https://youtu.be/kgVE6ijNkSE?si=NaaDN925qNgdCXAN

[frank mauve]

just use massive breaker blade

[obtuse elbow]

It was like

4 min long fight

of me constantly tanking shit and popping health potions

also

i think its funny how theres some weapons that should not count as true melee/has attacks that arent even true melee but technically are

Inferna cutter has no right of counting as true melee

[nimble wing]

that's why i couldn't care less about the calamity true melee damage type

my condition for a weapon being true melee is just functional

[frank mauve]

buzzkill is true melee

[obtuse elbow]

i just followed what the funny text said

[nimble wing]

following the damage type excludes some really cool functional options like biome blade attunements

[obtuse elbow]

i never knew any weapons with the melee type that were actually true melee

melee seems fun at stages tho

true melee

agaisnt ML it shreds

and holy colider is probably the best weapon for DoG

[fading dove]

nope! its actually sluggish handheld tank

with no ammo

[obtuse elbow]

fr?

[frank mauve]

is it cuz shooting with no ammo makes the dmg higher 🤔

[fading dove]

its because shooting it gets rid of your stealth

ive gotten an 0:37 on inf dog with it

[frank mauve]

yeah but does it make the stealth dmg% go higher

[obtuse elbow]

jesus

[fading dove]

yes

[obtuse elbow]

i wish i knew that weapon when fighting DoG on my ranger playthrough(and i lowkey rgequitted at DoG)

[fading dove]

close! you dont actually use it

[frank mauve]

its not a ranger weapon...

[fading dove]

you stand still and dont press any buttons

[frank mauve]

its a hidden stealth weapon with an accessory

[obtuse elbow]

this feels esoteric

[frank mauve]

do the 2 sheaths together really make the dmg higher

[fading dove]

+20 stealth

[obtuse elbow]

how does this work out

[frank mauve]

even when getting extra stealth it lowers your dmg sometimes

[fading dove]

https://youtu.be/NiPyfDKD0Vs

[obtuse elbow]

im scared to press watch cuz of the thumbnail

[frank mauve]

thats just shrooms

[obtuse elbow]

that is probably how a lore accurate angel looks like

[thin canyon]

[obtuse elbow]

im crying dawg what is this setup

[fading dove]

invincibility

(except to supreme ultramage on legendary)

[obtuse elbow]

where are you even getting 200 defense from

[fading dove]

all warding and a free 50 from aquatic emblem

[astral wyvern]

When I use the Better sword swing mod, my game slows down a lott. Any solution???

[fading dove]

don't use that mod then

[obtuse elbow]

50 DEFENSE?!

[fading dove]

yeah aquatic emblem does that

[obtuse elbow]

WHAT

[fading dove]

it also lowers your movement speed the more defence it gives

[astral wyvern]

Bruh, I was asking for a solution, not running away

[fading dove]

though im not moving soooooo

[fading dove]

melee rework mods do that

the fix is not using it

if the problem is the mod then the fix is not using the mod

[obtuse elbow]

HOW DID I NEVER NOTICE THIS

[fading dove]

yeah its such an evil accessory

[obtuse elbow]

50 defense for only -10%???

[frank mauve]

unfortunately its not usable with mounts

[fading dove]

the only problem is that you have to be underwater for it to work

[frank mauve]

still good nonetheless

[fading dove]

also no mounts yeah

[obtuse elbow]

tbf

you can build an underwater arena

[frank mauve]

u also need to wait for it to build up

[obtuse elbow]

and with the underwater equipment you can buff yourself up ALOT

[hardy herald]

im actually boutta crash out on masodeath wof bro

like wtf

im 200 attempts in and my best is 20%

20% is the hard phase too pretty sure

[plucky dune]

whats the best melee weapon post yharon

[elder nebula]

for what

[plucky dune]

wdym

[gloomy wedge]

Zenith

And Dragon Rage

[plucky dune]

rly?

zenith damage seems kinda low

only like 15-20k

[gloomy wedge]

Its not

It does WAY more damage than anything else at that stage

Especially on exos

It’s the best single weapon for exos in the game

[frank mauve]

what about drata

its so good for exos alone

[elder nebula]

yeah if you're doing a nohit

[restive atlas]

pls someone help stop this spear from spawning its annoying. both me and my freind got it but now it wont stop spawning

HOW DO WE STOP IT

[maiden cobalt]

pick

it Up

Pick It Up.

[restive atlas]

WE ALREADY HAVE

BOTH OF US

BUT IT WONT STOP SPAWNING

how to obtain the terminus in infernum?

specificly revengence mode

[wet nacelle]

This and mycoroot what can I change to make perfs easier in infernum

[wet nacelle]

Bottom of abyss i think

[restive atlas]

already did that

[wet nacelle]

What did you do to the abyss

[restive atlas]

killed the giantworm

and explored

[wet nacelle]

I think conquered is a better term

Try looking on the wiki for terminus

[restive atlas]

nevermind found it

the wyrm droped it

[dense knoll]

Any tips for pre lunatic cultist ranger?

Stuff that i should know before i try to fight him and moonlord

[atomic vapor]

Anyone know the best fish skill for halibut cannon on calamity overhaul?

[frank mauve]

use plague tainted smg

[maiden cobalt]

just saw a Phonk Edit of Nameless Deity

while i'm Glad to see WotG on my Feed, the Base Theme is very Phonkable

[unkempt mesa]

goodness

literally one sec later the giant energy ball deleted my existence

peak timing

[restive atlas]

how strong is summoner?

[spare summit]

On average has the fastest boss kill times of all classes

Until you get to around dog and later

It’s really strong except for when you need it to be

[dense knoll]

And equipment?

[frank mauve]

well hows ur loadout like

[dense knoll]

Got hydro armor/helstorm/nostly defense equipment

Can't show an ss im not at my pc rn

[plush garnet]

can you break the providence shrine from infernum?

placed it down in my base now its stuck there, Is there any tool or mod i can get to break it?

[waxen smelt]

wait what shrine actually? can you screenshot it?

[obsidian steeple]

I disabled infernum, swapped to like a lesser version (revengeance, death etc) and went to the providence garden to break platforms

disable inf in "manage mods"

[waxen smelt]

oooooh

i don't think you're ever meant to have it as an item in the first place

[plush garnet]

will my world get messed up if so?

ik i didnt know what it was

[waxen smelt]

if you do this - yes

you can leave it honestly, make it a set piece

[plush garnet]

yeah i dont wanna remake my base

[waxen smelt]

oh wait yeah you tried digging the blocks above it?

[plush garnet]

lemme see

[waxen smelt]

below

not above

[tough halo]

im infernum pre perfarators rn whats the best summoner stuff i can get rn

[frank mauve]

rusty beacon prototype is solid

[plush garnet]

breaking the blocks below doesn't work

[pliant pelican]

if im playing multiplayer calamity and we both do astrageldon, but one of us takes dmg, does only the person that didnt take damage get the scythe of the abandoned god

[tough halo]

icic okayy

[frank mauve]

if u can get vile feeder itd be great too 🤔

[sonic vigil]

infernum pre providace

[pale pivot]

Any mods I should add or remove? I want to play all of calamity mods in infernum, https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails?id=3646233095

[formal relic]

why does skeletron always get the most dogshit rework of his bossfight
like in vanilla calamity, infernum, fargo's souls, hes always the worst boss

[fossil saffron]

“worst boss” in infernum meanwhile eater exists

[formal relic]

eater of worlds is much easier than him

[thorny latch]

Wait what’s your definition of “worst”

[amber elk]

is this a good exos build

[formal relic]

annoying and repetitive attack patterns that dont make add anything to the fight
like all the bosses before him didint have these (except for king slime)

[amber elk]

skeletron is so fun wdym

[dense eagle]

i dont see repetetive patterns an issue here

he have at minimum 4 different attacks

and hes very early boss

[thorny latch]

I don’t really like Infernum Skeletron either tbf

[formal relic]

hive mind was so much better

[dense eagle]

hive mind was a nothing burger

[thorny latch]

Lot of projectiles and less of what made him Skeletron

[formal relic]

hive mind was so fun

[amber elk]

ANYWAY IS THIS BUILD GOOD?

[dense eagle]

i agree on this part

skeletrons getting 500 projectiles is smth i didnt liked as a concept

[amber elk]

god how do i dodge the ares laser

also what combination should i use

[thorny latch]

I saw what Infernum did to vanilla bosses and it kinda turned me off, but I didn’t realize until recently that the mod conversely iterates really well on the Calamity bosses

Didn’t actually do a full playthrough of Calamity until last year, so I’m sure I can appreciate Infernum if I start a playthrough of it now

Also sorry susie my knowledge is ass and is limited to summoner

[rugged raptor]

What weapon

[amber elk]

halibut with godslayer slugs

also HK pfp i just noticed

[rugged raptor]

Take off quiver of nihility then it only works on arrows iirc

[amber elk]

and what combination?

[amber elk]

alright

[rugged raptor]

Use radiance

[amber elk]

wat i replace

immareplace with dynamo stem cells

[amber elk]

also what combination

[rugged raptor]

Probably twins then ares

I find that the easiest

[amber elk]

i do ares then twins

[rugged raptor]

Use dest emblem atp

Solo ares is pain

Do twins first then ares

[amber elk]

yeah but i die too quick on twins

[rugged raptor]

If ares is easier for you then keep going with the one ur already doing

[amber elk]

ares is so tanky thatsthe only problem

i remember last run i switched to melee to use dragonrage on thanatos

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DODGE THE ARES LASER

[rugged raptor]

Doesnt it telegraph the lasers

Just watch out for that

[amber elk]

they go too fast

GOD I HATE THIS BOSS

[coral tartan]

\

[glass current]

calamity defense build is op wtf

plaguebringer infernum tickles me with perenial defense set

[vital swift]

What shoyld i use for calamity

I alr got some

[gloomy wedge]

Have you played it before

[vital swift]

Yes

A lot doin deat

[dense eagle]

pc

[vital swift]

Yes

[dense eagle]

with mouse and keyboard

[vital swift]

Yes

[gloomy wedge]

Then infernum is good

[vital swift]

K ty gtg

[loud forum]

i've done a calamity and infernum multiplayer playthrough, but i wanna do a singleplayer playthrough because i got hardcarried on those playthroughs and i don't think i got the full experience due to being dead 3/4 of the time during bossfights and never properly learning boss patterns and stuff

for a singleplayer playthrough, should i do calamity or infernum?

might only do one before moving on to other games

[glass current]

Any suggestions? mage class (all warding) doing pillars rn

[rugged raptor]

Thats pretty good actually maybe use frozen shield instead of hero

[velvet karma]

Gleaming Mangolia as a weapon.
I'm mage on infernum master, trying to kill Calamitas Clone. Is this setup good enough? Everything is on warding.

[frosty barn]

best ranged weapon for wof infernum?

[sonic vigil]

advice?
https://youtu.be/6yV24pL1HYU

[limpid kernel]

how do i dodge that one attack from ares where he goes far in the background then comes forward with swords?

[neon stag]

Gunkshot and archerfish are pretty good

[frosty barn]

alright, should i use meteor bullets?

[neon stag]

Meteor for eyes then swap to tungsten bullet archerfish

[frosty barn]

k

[rugged raptor]

You can somehow get party bullets pre hm

[sonic vigil]

any one got any advice?

[rugged raptor]

You get them from the pigronatas party girl sells during parties i think

[sonic vigil]

my guy im rouge

[neon stag]

For the phase you took the most hits in, during p2 when guardian goes to the middle and defender is dashing at you you should just hug the wall and move up and down to dodge the fireballs then ramdash against the wall when the meatball is dashing into you

[neon stag]

Pigronatas

[sonic vigil]

will try

[lean locust]

best summon post mechs infernum?

[haughty blaze]

Imma start a new infernum run with the master and infernum difficulty, any tips?

[dense eagle]

infernum doesnt work on master

the patch doesnt patch it

[thin canyon]

even if u can
the experience is bad

[dense eagle]

the health of the bosses are wacky making it easier

and some bosses doesnt have proper ai

[haughty blaze]

What about expert

[thin canyon]

infernum is built with expert

[dense eagle]

you can only play on expert

[haughty blaze]

alr then

[dense eagle]

if you want to boost stats, use another mod just for that

[haughty blaze]

Should I immediately choose a class or be multiclass?

[dense eagle]

all on you

[thin canyon]

don't ask
just play how you like

[haughty blaze]

Like boss checklist?

[thin canyon]

bosschecklist

it is in the name

just list your stats toward the boss (kills,hit,etc)

[dense eagle]

i meant, if you want to boost hp and dmg of the bosses

[thin canyon]

if you want to use, use boss checklist lite

[dense eagle]

for infernum use boss checklist lite

cuz there is a bug when you travel to a subworld

for the stats like number of attempts, use nycros nohit efficiency

[haughty blaze]

okay

recipe browser still works in it tho rigjt

Because I don't want to keep checking the wiki

[dense eagle]

recipe browser always works

[haughty blaze]

any other QoL mods?

[glass current]

does full defense build lets you steamroll infernum that it will make infernum un fun?

[limpid kernel]

stuff like ore excavator, fargos mutant mod, magic storage works

[haughty blaze]

What's so special about Fargos mutant mod i always see it but don't understand it

[glass current]

lately I've been first trying eol, lunatic, and ravager with defensive build

[limpid kernel]

from my expierence i ran an almost full defensive build and i still could die if i didn't pay attention pretty easily

[glass current]

ts what i have rn, and doing pillars and is astrum deus before moon lord

[dense eagle]

instahouses, instavator, instabridges, city busters (big bombs) and other stuff

iirc it also adds infinite ammo for other vanilla ammo types like chloro arrows/bullets

[limpid kernel]

it let's you have infinite potion effects, lets you instantly build hellevators, bridges, big bombs, and lets you buy spawn items for rare creatures after they've been killed once (e.g. pink slimes, tim, etc)

[amber elk]

is the item out mod good

[glass current]

||and sand shark, but i couldnt kill argus... the shark drops the relic tho and argus drops nothing of significance||

[dense eagle]

you can convert banners into loot

[limpid kernel]

it does post hard mode

[haughty blaze]

Okay wow that's a lot of QoL

[glass current]

then I'm keeping the defensive build for my sanity

[limpid kernel]

all of it is configurable so if you don't like some of the QoL you can just disable it

[haughty blaze]

I thought it's only compatible with Fargos soul or what was it's name

[limpid kernel]

fargo's soul yeah

fargo's mutant mod is compatible with i think everything, it shouldn't have any issues with other mods

[haughty blaze]

Cool this will definitely make housing less of a pain

[amber elk]

when am i supposed to fight goozma

[rugged raptor]

After scal and exos

But you can fight him at the start of hardmode if you wanna

[amber elk]

but im gonna deal no damage?

god i hate exos

can i do scal before exos

i mean

photoviscerator is the only reason i dont want to

i just hate ares cuz hes tanky but i die either way

i havent tried breaking the arms but still

[limpid kernel]

the arms and ares both have the same health bar so you can't sadly break them

[amber elk]

alright

ares laser time

ill tell yall if i die

i survived but

ummm

why is he red

aaand im dead

how do i get exquisitly stuffed buff

[tranquil yarrow]

In terms of readily available I'm not sure but I have done apple pie by a lot of waiting and starting a party and spam breaking pigronatas for bacon.

There's probably an easier way to get the buff I just don't know yet lol

[frank mauve]

scal exos goozma are all the same tier so it doesnt matter which one do u first or last

[tranquil yarrow]

Actually no NPCS sell major food items if they're happy enough.

[frank mauve]

burger

[tranquil yarrow]

I know Zoologist sells Steak and Party Girl sells Pizza as well.

That too.

[amber elk]

burger gives plenty satisfied?

[tranquil yarrow]

Are there anything else I'm forgetting I feel like there's more food items from NPCs that can tip it over.

[amber elk]

oh wait

[tranquil yarrow]

Burger is Major.

[amber elk]

it was the chicken nuggets

qot

god i hate ares so much

[frank mauve]

theres alot but not all of em are major

merchant got coffee and burger i think

[tranquil yarrow]

They also do Hot Dogs which is basically a Burger as well.

[amber elk]

uhh

yup i founded this glitched

cheers

welp

[tranquil yarrow]

We take those I guess?

[amber elk]

i didnt get a treasure bag

ive hated exo mechs alot

sadly i dont get the treasure bag

ares is the only reason i cant win

[tranquil yarrow]

I can only guess you were trying to escape blender and enraging it multiple times.

[amber elk]

nope

i hate blender

but the enrage was the first time

he would have been easier if he wasnt tanky

do wings of rebirth have infinite flight time

alright

so how do i escape blender

HOW DO I DO THIS

how do i dodge this shit

[weak spade]

What do you think

[amber elk]

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

IM GONNA CRASH OUT

I HATE ARES

[weak spade]

Flight time 360 must mean it’s infinite

[amber elk]

I HATE TE LASER

[weak spade]

🫧 🐠

[amber elk]

what

i think im gonna turn infernum off

[frank mauve]

what combo are u doing

[amber elk]

thanatos and twins

[frank mauve]

oh thats

thats definitely something

[amber elk]

what

[frank mauve]

why not do an easier combo like twins ares

[amber elk]

twins ares i have to fight ares first

[frank mauve]

no?

[amber elk]

and thanatos twins is too easy

[amber elk]

oh wait i meant

ohhh

basically

[frank mauve]

u fight twins first, then twins ares then thana alone then twins ares then twins DSP

[amber elk]

twins become easier when comboed with thanatos

its basically

ramdash

[frank mauve]

so ur issue is twins?

[amber elk]

and survive

nope

my issue is ares

[frank mauve]

then dont do ares solo 🤔

[amber elk]

twins thanatos is so easy i can farm rage adreneline for ares

[amber elk]

alr imma try

[steep cobalt]

thanatos solo is pretty easy

you're using ranged weapons right?

[amber elk]

thanatos solo is easy

thanatos twin is easy

[amber elk]

halibut with goslayer slugs

[steep cobalt]

halibut with bloodflare bullets, actually

[amber elk]

bloodflare better?

[frank mauve]

yeah it kills thana in seconds

[amber elk]

how?

[steep cobalt]

that should eviscerate it without a hitch

[frank mauve]

bug with bloodfire bullets extra dmg scaling with life regen on thana

[steep cobalt]

basically, this mod's flawless programming

[amber elk]

alright

[steep cobalt]

or infernum, idk

[amber elk]

imma try twins ares

[frank mauve]

if ur life regen is really low or negative it wont work

[steep cobalt]

hm i shouldn't deprecate calamity glaringly like that

[amber elk]

wait

so it turns life regen into dmg?

my regen is 11/s

[amber elk]

i get hit too much on twins

[steep cobalt]

well, then patch up that seemingly lethargic defense of yours

oh and, fly in a circle

[frank mauve]

yeah circling twins work like a charm

[amber elk]

this is my build

[steep cobalt]

where's radiance?

[amber elk]

what do i swap it for

[steep cobalt]

destroyer emblem

[amber elk]

in my inv btw

[steep cobalt]

at this stage of the game, you're not craving for more damage

[frank mauve]

id lowkey get dsr instead of equiver ngl

[amber elk]

whats dsr

[maiden fjord]

dark sun ring

[steep cobalt]

you can also forgo the amalgam for that

[amber elk]

but dodge

[frank mauve]

oh yeah true dodge and sponge is not good

[steep cobalt]

yeah that's wasting the sponge's shield

the dodge and shield will proc simultaneously if they're active at the same time

[amber elk]

i still gt hit too much

so which do i remove

[steep cobalt]

amalgam

absolutely

disparate combination at this moment in time

[amber elk]

how are twins cooking me this bad

also

[steep cobalt]

maybe that'll be remedied in the 50$ update

[amber elk]

theres an accessory

or nah

so

dsr for amalgam

[steep cobalt]

yes

[amber elk]

aaand twins still cook me

[steep cobalt]

3% damage less but you receive a bevy of other utilities

[steep cobalt]

circle around them

your primary concern is artemis's lasers

[amber elk]

duh

so this is the build

[thorny latch]

If I was gonna do a damage accessory then I’d do Nucleogenesis

Gives you a revive too

[steep cobalt]

mhm much better

[steep cobalt]

when?

[rugged raptor]

I think you mean nebulous core

[amber elk]

nucleogenisis was the summoner one

[steep cobalt]

like, genuinely, since when did nucleogenesis provide a revive?

[thorny latch]

I’m gonna

kms

yeah that’s what I meant

[amber elk]

is the revive good

[rugged raptor]

❌

[rugged raptor]

Its pretty good

[unkempt mesa]

is my gear good for scal?

[steep cobalt]

kinda meager in my book but give it a try

[rugged raptor]

[unkempt mesa]

i am tryna be a bit defensive cuz she kinda three shot me

[steep cobalt]

[amber elk]

what is that background

[rugged raptor]

Looks good

[steep cobalt]

i cannot fucking comprehend that aberration of flashes

[thorny latch]

Your primary damage accessory is obviously gonna be the quiver in your case, that’s good

[unkempt mesa]

average rogue stealth strike

[rugged raptor]

Supernova

[steep cobalt]

good enough though

[unkempt mesa]

i love having a literal nuke as an attack

[frank mauve]

scope better

[unkempt mesa]

an autoaim one at that

[rugged raptor]

You shoul also use dreamtastic

[steep cobalt]

play in a gfb world and witness the dissonance ushered by the bomb

[rugged raptor]

Its broken

[steep cobalt]

it'll kill everything in its wake

not excluding you

[rugged raptor]

[steep cobalt]

hi there guy

[amber elk]

artemis is annoying

[thorny latch]

But yeah focus on using extra accessory slots on utility instead of more damage

Stuff like chalice of the blood god, radiance, nebulous core, a dodge…

[steep cobalt]

they have the sponge equiped

[rugged raptor]

[steep cobalt]

i don't think a dodge is necessary

[frank mauve]

nebulous core lowk suck

[thorny latch]

It’s personal preference but it’s worth considering

[amber elk]

aether monolith just made my life much easier

[steep cobalt]

like, a dodge would squander the sponge's shield

so they are kind of incompatible at this moment

[amber elk]

i feel like a scum everytime i use rod

[steep cobalt]

i suck at using rod

[thorny latch]

Wasn’t saying to use all of those accessories. Was just listing off examples of utility.

[steep cobalt]

[thorny latch]

I have no say on the order of mechs tho cuz infernum

No experience there

[steep cobalt]

i'm wires

[amber elk]

do artemis and apollo share health

[frank mauve]

yeah

[steep cobalt]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[frank mauve]

glove of recklessness is usually mid

even for spam

[unkempt mesa]

i mean i have a magical machine gun

[steep cobalt]

purity is an intriguing choice

[frank mauve]

which

[unkempt mesa]

dreamtasis

it shoots pretty fast

[frank mauve]

did u do a damage comparison with purity and not purity on

[amber elk]

oh god

ares time

[unkempt mesa]

purity is slightly better from my testing

[amber elk]

that stupid improved skeletron prime that i hate

[steep cobalt]

thank you john undertale for your insight

may i enquire on the target you conducted your test on though?

[frank mauve]

whats dreamtastic crit without purity

[unkempt mesa]

actually nevermind i got mistaken between them

without purity is vastly superior

[frank mauve]

yeah i was surprised

dreamtastic being better with purity on wouldve been absurd

if attack speed doesn't seem to affect then throw in glove of precision

[amber elk]

thanatos is getting his ass handed to him

[unkempt mesa]

i love how celestus melts scal's summon

[amber elk]

what that mean

[unkempt mesa]

literally one tap

[frank mauve]

celestus melts my pc

[unkempt mesa]

idiot getting coil'd

dragon rage go br

[steep cobalt]

basically if he conducted the dps tests on a dummy or an actual boss

[frank mauve]

u can skip scal phase 2 with final dawn too

[amber elk]

also which mech do i kill first

do i kill ares or twins

[haughty blaze]

Guys can someone recommend me QoL mods

[frank mauve]

twins first

[frank mauve]

fargos mutant, prisma pristine potion, recipe browser, ore excavator

[glass current]

what's a good magic weapon for astrum deus

[haughty blaze]

What's prisma?

[steep cobalt]

anything that can pierce

[glass current]

infernum*

[frank mauve]

do u know alchemist npc?

[haughty blaze]

Ye

[steep cobalt]

anything that can hit multiple times

[frank mauve]

then prisma pristine potion is like alchnpc but much better

[amber elk]

PLEASE ARES JUST DIE

[haughty blaze]

I see

[steep cobalt]

should've used melee smh

[haughty blaze]

I don't have to grind blood moon again 🥹

[steep cobalt]

could've killed ares sooner with dragon rage

[frank mauve]

use chicken cannon

[amber elk]

what

[steep cobalt]

mhm... chicken....

[frank mauve]

usually my preferred weapons for exos is drata but thats too hard to use

[amber elk]

im using halibut cannon for every

[frank mauve]

[frank mauve]

personally id only use halibut for thana then chicken cannon for the rest

[amber elk]

ALRIGHT ares is DEAD NOW WHAT

[steep cobalt]

chkicen

[amber elk]

WHAT DO I DO NOW

PLEASE ARTEMIS AND APOLLO I NEED THIS

HOW DO I SURVIVE THE TWIN DESP

[haughty blaze]

Bruh why I can't use infernum mod

it keeps giving me an error

[maiden fjord]

what error?

[frank mauve]

run away by dashibg or going in a zigzag

[amber elk]

and they are dead i think

nope

THEY MADE A SUN>?????????????????????????

[steep cobalt]

wait we could've suggested using cherished sealocket

[amber elk]

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TODO

[steep cobalt]

just run away

doofus

[thorny latch]

banned

[steep cobalt]

a

anyways just run away from the uh

[frank mauve]

its a worse dodge

[steep cobalt]

ball

[frank mauve]

bad idea to use with sponge

[steep cobalt]

60% dr is funny though

[frank mauve]

since ur gonna get the 90 sec cooldown everytime

and im sure it proc with sponge shield anyway

[steep cobalt]

uh huh

[frank mauve]

[steep cobalt]

so that's another efficient layer of protection

that we woefully forgot about

[frank mauve]

90 sec tho

fuck that

[steep cobalt]

c'mon, 2 hits

[amber elk]

WHY ARE THEY NOT DYING

oh

[steep cobalt]

i said just run away

you don't need to hit them

[frank mauve]

no point in shooting them

[steep cobalt]

they'll collide with eachother and explode after a while

[frank mauve]

brimstone crescent staff then

[steep cobalt]

eh true

i can't refute that

[frank mauve]

not an accessory but faster cd and easier to use

[unkempt mesa]

she has a desparation phase??

[steep cobalt]

but they stack with eachother

so eh?

[frank mauve]

correct

[unkempt mesa]

😭

i thought i am finally done

[steep cobalt]

this is where you have a loadout entirely delegated to tanking bullshits

[amber elk]

alright

photoviscerator time

[unkempt mesa]

time to do some research

[frank mauve]

those 3 stars are helping so much

[unkempt mesa]

what

[amber elk]

so uhh chat

gem tech time

[steep cobalt]

ehhhhhhhh

if you can't dodge efficiently, just stick with auric

not insinuating that the armor is bad, it's just more precarious to use properly

[amber elk]

im goated at dodging trust me

also

im a draedon fan

[steep cobalt]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

sure

i'm reluctant to believe in you, given you were groveling and squirming over the twins minutes ago

[amber elk]

tf you mean ehh

[steep cobalt]

but sure, go ahead

[weak spade]

Top 10 lies

[steep cobalt]

hi there fish man

[amber elk]

no like

other than exos yharon dog and scal all the bosses were sub 25 attempts for my first infernum playthrough

maybe

[plucky dune]

Is the cosmic shiv bugged atm

[weak spade]

Blud took more than 25 attempts to kill yharon

[steep cobalt]

have fun grieving over losing the ranged gem over and over again and losing your offensive prowess

[frank mauve]

ur not gonna use ranged only right?

[amber elk]

only range ig

[weak spade]

What

[steep cobalt]

welp have fun

[weak spade]

Why

[frank mauve]

if u get hit once ur gonna have as much offensive power as someone naked

[steep cobalt]

gem tech incentivizes weapon switching due to the gem mechanic

[steep cobalt]

not totally naked until the next hit

[frank mauve]

ur naked for 30 seconds

[steep cobalt]

then you'll have a meager 69 defense to your name

was the 69 intentional?

[frank mauve]

probably

[amber elk]

oh

so imma just use auric then

[frank mauve]

evem omega blue has that much defense 🤔

[weak spade]

Good job

[steep cobalt]

you only have 2 (3 with the sponge)'s margins of error before you become naked and hapless

[amber elk]

also photoviscerator is so cool

scal build

[steep cobalt]

because prior to the first hit, you still have the default pink gem for sustainability

[steep cobalt]

replace nebulous core with draedon's heart

[amber elk]

oh yeah

imma do that

[steep cobalt]

you don't wanna pass up on the best defensive accessory in the game

[amber elk]

dont yap bout draedon heart ik abt it

[steep cobalt]

k

do your job

[frank mauve]

at least that gem gets to deal more than 40k dmg

[amber elk]

also im using photovisceratoe

also

reforge time

[steep cobalt]

80k damage of last ditch effort before you're screwed

[amber elk]

5 lucky 2 menacing

[steep cobalt]

either full warding or full lucky

oh and dedicate a loadout for the desperation phase

[frank mauve]

maybe theyre already at 100% crit hence the 2 menacing 🤔

[steep cobalt]

eh that could be the case

[amber elk]

are these stats good

[amber elk]

what would that loadout be

[frank mauve]

111 crit what...

[amber elk]

oh wait yeah

hmm

so if i

alr

3 accessories to menacing

[steep cobalt]

defense

[amber elk]

no shit

im asking for the accs

[thorny latch]

Lucky propaganda gotta stop

[steep cobalt]

sealocket, sponge, heart

uhhhhh

[thorny latch]

It’s less damage on average than menacing

[steep cobalt]

affliction

[frank mauve]

summoner player saying this

[steep cobalt]

community if you're that desperate

[amber elk]

yup thats good enough

[steep cobalt]

oh and rampart

[frank mauve]

hey wheres dsr

[steep cobalt]

and dsr as well

oops

[frank mauve]

dsr nighttime is a beast

[frank mauve]

thats much better

now what if u use heavenly gale with daawnlight and absolutely melt scal...

[amber elk]

wats heart

[steep cobalt]

gotta hop on the bandwagon ever so often

[frank mauve]

draedon

[steep cobalt]

aquatic heart for scal new meta

[unkempt mesa]

is auric tesla is the tankiest armor post-exo for rogue?

[frank mauve]

aquatic heart when u get a 25 dmg shield

[frank mauve]

if ur stealth thats your only option

[amber elk]

the ones on social accs are the desp ones

[steep cobalt]

fearmonger, actually

in terms of bulk

[frank mauve]

fearmonger on stealth rogue is a good idea i think

[steep cobalt]

and damage if you're going for hybrid

[amber elk]

ignore robe the drip is necessary

[unkempt mesa]

i am specifically go for as much tankiest as possible for the des. phase

[steep cobalt]

i mean he was asking for the tankiest armor

[amber elk]

alr

its time

[weak spade]

Is this for exos

[frank mauve]

rogue auric armor above 80% health has the most defense

[steep cobalt]

either melee auric or fearmonger

[amber elk]

the main build for scal and social for desp

[thorny latch]

Remember that there’s only so much you can do to optimize your loadout. Only through trial will you eventually get the hang of the fight.

[steep cobalt]

i only now just learnt about that

[amber elk]

also

auric is tankiest armour right?

[weak spade]

No

[steep cobalt]

hi there trial mod guy number 6

[night fractal]

Fearmonger or Demonshade are

[amber elk]

what is it

[frank mauve]

its only 10 more defense though

[thorny latch]

You’re only now recognizing? :p

[steep cobalt]

no

i've acknowledged your role as trial mod since the beginning

[amber elk]

is the photoviscerator right click better or left click

[steep cobalt]

i'm just acting out on my intrinsic silliness

[amber elk]

im talking for scal

[frank mauve]

can u test it urself

[amber elk]

so pre scal

[steep cobalt]

by welcoming someone later than usual

[steep cobalt]

fearmonger

because fearmonger is pre yharon

[frank mauve]

fearmonger is stupid

[steep cobalt]

remember when fearmonger has 6 minion slots?

[frank mauve]

u cant possibly die with fearmonger

[steep cobalt]

yeah good time

[amber elk]

dam 50% scal while only getting hit once

so taking no dmg

alright beothers dead

[thorny latch]

You got dis!

[amber elk]

dam she pulled out a staff

do i have to kill the birds????

[frank mauve]

correct

[amber elk]

WHY IS SHE SUPER SAIYAN

alright desp

[burnt condor]

A couple days ago someone said stars above is unbalanced as hell but ive already beat skeletron and the calamity weapons are still outshining the stars ones

[amber elk]

GODDAMMIT I DIED IN THE LAST PART

im gonna crash out

[burnt condor]

Is there a point where stars starts to make you op asf?

[amber elk]

it was the last part

[marble crescent]

what do i do for the infernum old duke last phase, he's way too fast

[amber elk]

dash at him duh

[marble crescent]

not enough time to recharge duh

[frank mauve]

dash cancel

[amber elk]

what dash

[burnt condor]

Face tank him

[marble crescent]

2 taps me 🙏

[marble crescent]

what's that

[amber elk]

time to do it all again

[marble crescent]

uhh the one from providence

[burnt condor]

All i hear is excuses, you just gotta believe in yourself