calamity-addon-talk

[gloomy wedge]

NOW BOOMSTICK ON THE OTHER HAND

[red valve]

im doing a wotg playthrough and defeated ceaseless void but the mysterious rift it spawned didnt disappear, is it supposed to after getting the antiseed or is it bugged?

[magic osprey]

should i do DOG or old duke?

[frank mauve]

od

[magic osprey]

thanks

[spiral harbor]

hey who knows alot about forgo's soul mod?

i got a kinda stupid question

[fading dove]

whats your question

[spiral harbor]

sooo im playing regenance-eturnity for my first time and i just noticed something strange

whats that little thing in the bottom right?

i really dont know what that is

[fading dove]

the souls difficulty selector or the effect toggler

also that's maso rev

not eternity

[spiral harbor]

what does that mean?

[fading dove]

masochist is eternity but on master instead of expert

its intended for experienced players seeking further challenge

[spiral harbor]

so its supposed to be harder?

[fading dove]

very much so

[spiral harbor]

i see

[fading dove]

the difference between eternity and masochist i'd say is about as hard as the difference between classic and infernum

[spiral harbor]

no wounder i cant beat hive mind

[fading dove]

yeah hivemind's pretty tough even on eternity

[spiral harbor]

so basically this whole time i havent been playing enturnity but masochist mode?

[fading dove]

yeah

[quartz parrot]

Bruh i finally beat eternity death DoG but like bruh they didn't even make any changes to it

Took me a whole ass week on and off

[fading dove]

increased health to compensate for higher player power

[quartz parrot]

Bruh I'm just ass or something

[worn vector]

is this the right channel to ask about this? ill ask anyways. Ive been trying to fight the nameless deity and every time i ascend to the ladder thing, i always crash and error pops up, is this a pc problem? or i got way too many mods?

[split grail]

best weapon for astrageldon? melee

using the myrindael rn and i feel i just gotta get good

[maiden fjord]

Entropic Claymore
Terra Blade [idk if that's viable tho]

[smoky dock]

I always use Grand Guardian

Myrindael is fine

[frank mauve]

myrindael fake melee

[split grail]

i don’t CARE….

[heavy moat]

Touchups

[dusty cobalt]

What on earth

Nah.....

[cedar laurel]

Get angel wing,deep diver,giant tortoise shell and power glove
Upgrade bloody worm tooth
You could use also use tungsten enchantment for big weapons
+Shadowflame knife and clam crusher are good weapons

[fiery elbow]

named diety

[floral matrix]

Is EoW SUPPOSED to have 130k hp per phase on expert infernum???

[agile agate]

In Infernum, it does

Since it'll split regardless of where you attack it from

Which means more damage done to it

[smoky dock]

Are you using the vanilla boss health bar

Use the Infernum boss health bar

[agile agate]

Speaking of which, that also means EoW is the most profitable Pre-Hardmode boss, since it drops 4x the loot (if I remember correctly, I haven't played Infernum in months)

Unless they changed it so that doesn't happen anymore

[floral matrix]

I remember it doing that still

Me and my friend farmer eow like crazy in our multiplayer world

[floral matrix]

HOW DO I DO THAT PLEEEEASE

[smoky dock]

It's 2x for some reason

I dunno why it drops two boss bags

I'm going to bed now

[agile agate]

It should drop 4

[floral matrix]

WAIT

[agile agate]

[floral matrix]

PLEASEEEE

[agile agate]

It should be in the settings

Boss health bar or something

I forgot the name of it

[floral matrix]

Oh my god thank you

[agile agate]

[floral matrix]

Genuinely this entire time I've been playing with classic and it bugged me so bad

I have completed like 2 or 3 playthroughs not including the multiplayer one

I still have no idea why eow has like 200x the health of every other on tier boss

Like if it was the whole worm problem then scourage would've gotten the same treatment

[nocturne bluff]

what the hell is that

it looks amazing

[unkempt mesa]

this is the happiest I have ever felt for murdering profaned guardians

[little steppe]

wow. you killed a wholesome polyamorous yuri.

congrats.

[unkempt mesa]

deserved for sending me into a death loop

[simple yarrow]

Hey, Im playing infernum, is this a good set up for the second mech?

I beated the scourge but don't have the weapon yet tho

Also should I change the Jelly-Charged Battery for the Nuclear Fuel Rod or am I ok like this?

[frank mauve]

get fairy boots 🙃

[simple yarrow]

Are those better than terraspark?

[frank mauve]

yep

[eternal junco]

Remember

Every set up is a good set up

Provided you are skilled enough

[simple yarrow]

Well. given that it took me like 60 attempts to kill the scourge I wouldn't say I'm good lmao

[unborn light]

which reforge would be the best for early game in no hit run

[frank mauve]

usually lucky for dmg

or menacing if ur summoner

[eternal junco]

Whelp, it's infernum

If it's not a case of git gud above all else I don't know what it is

[unborn light]

is this tuff

[vocal owl]

how do i get trashers to spawn or wtv there called

[glass current]

Does skeletron infernum have a second phase after the first hp bar?

[glass current]

Just wait. Use battle/zerg potion or bloodmoon if you're really that unlucky

[frank mauve]

wdym

like after he dies or what

[glass current]

I just beat him, till 0% but then he show hp bar again

Also the moment he was boutta die, it was morning so he had time to be the dungeon guardian

[frank mauve]

prob vanilla hp bar bug

inf also adds a death animation

[glass current]

So i cant rlly know

[frank mauve]

did u die?

[glass current]

If i did beat him and ran outta time as death anim started, or there was a second phase

Yes

[frank mauve]

no second phase

just him falling into the ground and dying

[glass current]

Oh thank goodness, guess we were unlucky

[quaint prairie]

Do you guys make an arena for infernum polterghast or do you just fight them in the ceasless void room?

[frank mauve]

ppl expand the room usually

i like making a whole other arena above the room tho

since i dont like how the archives look

[dense arch]

You all know how I asked awhile ago what addon was causing cactus damage?

Well i found it and you'll never guess which mod it was, and no it wasnt overhaul

||it was vanilla QoL+||

[glass current]

"Quality of life"

[vagrant raft]

Can also be fargo soul masochist mode

[glass current]

Full warding or full menacing pre hm infernum?

Which one actually makes a difference more?

[dense arch]

Thats why I was shocked when I found it there lol was like "wtf is qol about contact damage with cacti?"

[dense arch]

I need to try fargos souls i heard it's got insane progression that breaks even calamity lol

[amber elk]

is this a good enough build for ranger slime gods?

[whole garnet]

im gonna play calamity for the first time is the parry mod a good addition?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3634251614 i found it on the workshop

[amber elk]

its necro armour btw

[azure bane]

i still fucking hate infernum polter

this boss is so badly designed its not even funny

[amber elk]

SOLYN DIDNT SPAWN FOR ME

[agile agate]

It's a new mod, so I doubt anyone on here has tried it out before

It was released last week

[glass current]

so uhh infernum slime god's are really easy to despawn to the point I think I can just beat em that way and then just fight the core 😭

has it always been like that?

[orchid cloak]

best ranger weapon for infernum yharon?

im using phangasm

[whole garnet]

i tried it rn it works fine

[gloomy wedge]

I like sdfmg

The main strat for Yharon is to play like a little bitch and just not engage

If he comes close to you ever, run immediately

[rugged raptor]

Starmageddon melts

[orchid cloak]

but i have to fight old duke

[gloomy wedge]

You’re post dog

You can melt that guy

[pulsar copper]

I can't start the ceaseless void fight, each time I try to summon him he just despawns immediately

[orchid cloak]

is there a way to summon him?

i dont want to do the fuckass acid rain every time

[gloomy wedge]

Blood worms

[sour gull]

daedalus or hallowed armor for summoner pre plantera

[unkempt mesa]

i understand it now

having a dash kinda cooks me in the profaned goddess fight

[dense arch]

Isn't post ml infernum considered the worst part of infernum?

[elder nebula]

hardest, not necessarily worst

i think late hardmode is the worst

[unkempt mesa]

i love how golem is literally a undertale fight

they even have the sound effect 🔥

[dense arch]

My least favorite infernum boss was aquatic scourge. Having it enrage outside of being in water while also having it so if you make an underground arena too big for something so chaotic it can still enrage due to it sometimes changing to unground instead lf Sulphur sea

Never got much farther than that cuz that 1 fight really sucked so much I lost the will to continue even tho I won

At least it didn't feel like the usual worm boss so there's that

[cold rivet]

hello

so i downloaded calamity obvi

but i also downloaded THREE other things with it

Infernum, Wrath of the Gods, and Wrath of the Machines

theyll all work together right

[rugged raptor]

yes

[elder nebula]

mostly

[fading dove]

sounds like you havent played cal before

[cold rivet]

#awesome saucesome

[fading dove]

i'd very much recommend not using addons

[cold rivet]

i have but only until

ahhhh

hmmm

where was it

i cant quite put my finger on it

[rugged raptor]

Infernum and wotg has small issues with cv iirc but other than that its all good

[cold rivet]

whats cv

[thin canyon]

[elder nebula]

also wotg is kinda buggy in general but you can't really do anything about that

[rugged raptor]

Ceaseless void

One of the bosses

[cold rivet]

aquatic scourge yes that man

[formal vault]

are you planning on playing on infernum difficulty or are you just putting the mod in bc some youtuber said to still add it in bc it adds extra stuff

[rugged raptor]

Wrath of the bugs

[cold rivet]

oh im playing infernum

[elder nebula]

i recommend beating base calamity before using addons

but i'm not the police

[cold rivet]

we’re going all the way with this one

[thick cloud]

infernum might not work soon (a month or so, idk) because it's no longer being ported to newer cal versions and base calamity gets a major update

[formal vault]

infernum completely changes like most of the calamity bosses so i wouldnt recommend using it for the first time

[elder nebula]

it'll probably be ported to brainstorm actually

just not sso

[cold rivet]

ill just do the first run of the boss on infernum and then switch to like revengence or whatever its called for one more run

[formal vault]

you cant tho

[cold rivet]

like destiny 2… legendary and normal campaign… i HATE destiny so much but i also love it

[formal vault]

infernum mod is meant to be played on infernum

[elder nebula]

technically you can
but why

[cold rivet]

then ill just do infernum all the way

#itiswhatitis

[formal vault]

if you have it installed but play on another difficulty it just completely messes everything up

[thin canyon]

but you can switch mid game so ehh
you do what you do

[formal vault]

i mean you do you sure

[cold rivet]

[elder nebula]

infernum expects you to be familiar with every boss on regular difficulty
so just keep that in mind

[thin canyon]

personally i just do 100% bosses then switch back to lower diff

[formal vault]

but again infernum mod by just being installed changes some things pretty consequently that are meant to be balanced around it

[cold rivet]

ill figure it out as i go

[thick cloud]

isn't like slime god getting a rework and a new design, because infernum devs would have to remake its fight then and I doubt they want to

[rugged raptor]

They dont need to remake it tho

[elder nebula]

you can disable the difficulty without issue if you're not planning to do guardians or provi, boss rush or primordial wyrm

[rugged raptor]

It can just still be the current one

[formal vault]

also if u want more addons use hunt of the old gods, catalyst and wrath of the gods those are like the main 3 addons people use

[elder nebula]

yeah but more importantly desert scourge

[thick cloud]

I thought ds is for sso actually

[formal vault]

but for a first playthrough like

[elder nebula]

oh

[formal vault]

🫠 i mean people do what they want

[elder nebula]

slime god isn't in brainstorm

[thick cloud]

I see

[thin canyon]

be menance and play inf as first time playing cal like me (literally hell) or just get used to cal first then inf

[cold rivet]

i alrady put em all on

[thin canyon]

[formal vault]

good

[cold rivet]

yes i am

[thin canyon]

also get dragon lens

[cold rivet]

yes i aaaammm

[thin canyon]

just in case wrath gods break mid way

[cold rivet]

never heard of that

[formal vault]

i dont recommend using fargos souls mod this will make the game super bloated and overwhelming imo at least def not now

but again

you do you

[cold rivet]

i wont

im not downloading anything other than calamity related stuff

[thin canyon]

search it up

[elder nebula]

also it's completely incompatible with infernum

[cold rivet]

i tried to do fargos and all that stuff once

so much

[elder nebula]

dragonlens is a cheat mod but with an actually good interface

[fading dove]

its also a lot better than hero's mod or cheat sheet because it lets you do way more

[formal vault]

i love dragonlens it's peak

[cold rivet]

oh right other question

so idk if its like infernum or something doing this

but nearly every single night theres a blood moon and its getting really annoying

i can deal with it obviously but its like

[fading dove]

even when below the minimum requirements?

[cold rivet]

it gets to a point where during the night time i just cannot go to the surface lest i be faced with an onslaught of messy beasts

[cold rivet]

i dunno it started pretty recently

ever since its been night after night after night of nonstop fighting

[fading dove]

ah so probably once you met the requirements

modlist?

[cold rivet]

guh

[elder nebula]

press f8 twice for modlist

[cold rivet]

oh my f buttons dont work

[elder nebula]

rip

[cold rivet]

at nights its blood moon, during the day its either a goblin army or slime rain or the weather is so abysmal i cant even leave

[elder nebula]

that's not normal

[cold rivet]

mits just an endless onslaught and its so annoying purely because my hand starts hurting because i gotta hold down m1 to keep killing everything

i mean 88 enemies??? at once??? all the time during the night??? its BANANAS to say the very least

[thin canyon]

fargo mutant mod time!!!!

anyway
modlist

[elder nebula]

for modlist you can screenshot in the workshop tab or just type it all here ig

[cold rivet]

holllon

let me get it

also the alchemist isnt spawning which is kinda annoying, idk if theres requirements or smth

[elder nebula]

uninstall calamity overhaul immediately

it's malware

also weaponout is known to break a lot of things

and boss checklist
replace that one with boss checklist lite

[cold rivet]

i tried it for an hour and i LOVED the gun stuff but everything else was icky

[cold rivet]

will remove

[cold rivet]

will replace

does the alchemist have requirements or smth

i have a lot of open houses and she isnt moving in

[elder nebula]

i wouldn't know

it's been a while

[hearty agate]

heyyyyyyyyyy any advice to help me with infernum scal?

[weak spade]

I’m awful at suggestions but you probably shouldn’t be using tracers or the community

[hearty agate]

i mean

idk

[weak spade]

Wings of rebirth are infinitely better

[hearty agate]

infernum scal i cant tell if i suck or my equipments an issue

feels super projectile spammy

got a replacement for community?

[weak spade]

I haven’t played calamity in a billion years so I can’t give good suggestions

I just know the community isn’t great

[hearty agate]

ima just keep it

cause im too used to the movement speed and extra flight time

[elder nebula]

it's complete dogshit at this stage

affliction is genuinely still better

don't use affliction though

[merry harness]

amalgam is pretty good

15% damage and dash

dodge*

[elder nebula]

not with the sponge

[merry harness]

hmm what about warbanner of the sun

[elder nebula]

only useful for true melee

[merry harness]

idk then all i know is use anythign other than community

[elder nebula]

i would do chalice

or radiance

and yeah, wings over tracers

[merry harness]

i think they want something for movement

[hearty agate]

chalice fucks with my focus i wont lie i hated using it against yharon cause i would always stare at my health being melted

[elder nebula]

you still take the same amount of damage

it's just not all at once

[hearty agate]

ik but i rather take insta damage then see my health bar get melted

[elder nebula]

wings will improve movement

especially for scal

[hearty agate]

scal feels so scammy i need help for a phase

[merry harness]

yea prob radiance then

if u dont like the chalcie

[hearty agate]

after cataclysm and catastrophe she summons bombs that take half the arena and 100s of projectiles that are hard to see i dont know where to go and usually die??

[elder nebula]

you could try studying a nohit

[hearty agate]

alr thank you

[merry harness]

truly the best way

do this

[hearty agate]

ill do that after my exams which is in like 2 weeks

[elder nebula]

[merry harness]

bro

[hearty agate]

my first exam is in a week

i havent studied

[elder nebula]

go do that

[merry harness]

studying means litteraly just watcch a no hit and do what the person does at the part u struggle on

[hearty agate]

i cant

[merry harness]

but u should prob be studying for ur exams not playing alamity

[merry harness]

why

[hearty agate]

procrastination is killing me

ive been promising to study since 26th of december

[merry harness]

[hearty agate]

yeah.

[unkempt mesa]

yes sir

also damn did DoG deadass just killsteal us

[maiden cobalt]

yea

lol

he left the loot though

[unkempt mesa]

yeah

less tries than profaned guardians

[deep rune]

is this a good loadout for the slime god or should I change anything?(playing on Masochist Death mode)

[royal tide]

hello, is it normal that the same song is only played even if I'm fighting bosses?

[static locust]

Which boss?

[steep cobalt]

i'd definitely replace shield of cthulhu with ancient cobalt ench

and i guess obsidian enchantment if you are willing to touch lava ever so often

there's also crimson, pumpkin ench to bolster your bulk

and necro ench for the bone pile

[royal tide]

I recently entered hardmode, but it is always the same, in the caves, jungle and bosses

[static locust]

That is definitely not normal

[steep cobalt]

do you have a music box equiped?

[royal tide]

im deadass ye

has been to remove it and change instantly 😭😭

tysm bro

[vernal junco]

Any addon recommendations for calamity with 4 players

[gloomy wedge]

Has anyone in your group not played calamity before

[high mason]

is that the guy from elden ring

[vernal junco]

No we’ve all got quite a few hours

[smoky dock]

The smaller your modlist, the better

So I’d suggest none

[high mason]

infernum mode, hunt of the old god (might not work), catalyst mod, entropy (unbalanced)

[steep cobalt]

calamity overhaul

[supple hearth]

calamity overhaul - everything except the murasama rework ig

[steep cobalt]

are you guillible enough to subserviently heed to my suggestion?

[supple hearth]

[steep cobalt]

true

[supple hearth]

i think such thing may exist idk for sure

[steep cobalt]

someone compiled fnaf games and posted the archive as a terraria resource pack or something

[smoky dock]

real

[high mason]

download calamity community remix

[supple hearth]

even then that rework steals code from other stuff so it ain’t entirely good

[high mason]

dude i played overhaul with only the murasama cuz i know its the only somewhat decent thing from the mod with its giant ass crafts

[gloomy wedge]

I’m playing overhaul rn, my current thoughts are that it’s not very good

[weak spade]

The overhaul murasama is abysmal

[gloomy wedge]

The weapon reworks don’t feel great, except for revolver I actually quite like that one

[supple hearth]

i remember seeing

[weak spade]

Completely unbalanced

[supple hearth]

wind turbines

[gloomy wedge]

The quest book is just like

Why

Why do you give me 100 platinum bars and a reaver shark on night 2

[high mason]

are you looking for balance in a mod that adds minecraft mod recipes

[gloomy wedge]

Also this sounds mild but it is definitely not

Weapon swapping on overhaul

Is so jank

Because everything has this unique animation now thats basically just fancy weaponout

And if you try to swap to another weapon right after using your current one

It just doesn’t

Because the game still thinks you’re attacking

[forest burrow]

do you all have any mod recommendations

[elder nebula]

vanilla calamity mod music

[low monolith]

do you guys know if my fps is gonna get worse while playing,if i can play at about like 100+ fps at the start will it dip below 60 later in the game or in some fight ?

[neon stag]

it might drop during some bossfights like the guardians

[flat cloak]

how the hell do i dodge this attack? it genuinely feels impossible to dodge

[neon stag]

It most likely wont drop down below an enjoyable rate tho

[low monolith]

ok ty, so im good as long as im not in abyss and suken, because lag is insane there

[elder nebula]

stay close to the middle

this is due to how circles work

[flat cloak]

tried that but it always feels faster than me

[frank mauve]

bad wings?

no pogo stick?

no dash?

[smoky dock]

Angular velocity

[worthy solar]

Hello i need some tips on build and weapon in defeating cruiser

Calamity entropy

[sleek bramble]

can anyone recommend me homing weapons for dog? since im having trouble dodging and aiming at the same time

[forest burrow]

already installed

but thank you

[neon stag]

Infernum?

[sleek bramble]

obviously

[neon stag]

What class are you

[sleek bramble]

ranger

[neon stag]

Daemons flame is pretty good when ram dashing dog vertically

fetid emesis is viable, although gets a slower kill time

Haileys inferno is also viable

Pristine fury is technically the best getting a kill time of 52s but requires in depth knowledge of dogs moving patterns and how to manipulate them however you want.

[fading dove]

and also requires nohitting and boozemaxxing and is slower than not moving

[steep cobalt]

you can also do this

[frank mauve]

nohitting against dog isnt that crazy tho

[neon stag]

no-hitting dog is easy though

lol

[fading dove]

i would not suggest p2 coiling for people who are not very experienced with dog

[neon stag]

Which is why I didnt suggest it??

[pearl shoal]

we should enforce mandatory reading!

[pearl shoal]

is this an actual mod? lmao

[frank mauve]

✅

[fading dove]

forced to do the sat english section before playing tmod for the first time

[pearl shoal]

They should be forced to do the TOEFL IBT test with at least 15 points in every category

this would be B1 in English iirc

[plain heron]

What weapon should I use for infernum rogue brain of Cthulhu

[pearl shoal]

Contaminated Bile works well

[spare summit]

Nasty cholla spam, you have to use it with shark tooth necklace for it to be good tho

[pearl shoal]

Seafoam bomb is ok

Crystaline somehow works iirc

[frank mauve]

ink bomb is rogue

[pearl shoal]

Ink bomb is Abyss loot

[frank mauve]

its so funny

[pearl shoal]

they aint getting it now

but yes its hilarious

Does Sand Veil still murder infernum BoC?

[frank mauve]

it was decent against eow recently when i used it but idk about boc

wait its called sand veil?

[pearl shoal]

Anyways I’d do stealth build with Sand Veil, Coin and Sharktooth with Contaminated Bile, last 2 accs can be boots and dash

If you need more movement swap sand veil or sharktooth for a jump balloon

[pearl shoal]

The DS accessory drop

[frank mauve]

oh sand cloak

[pearl shoal]

Ah right renames

the spawned projectile is still Sand Veil iirc

[frank mauve]

it says dust veil

at least theres spectral veil

[pearl shoal]

dang it

Spectral is good for hyper aggressive play

otherwise its just Normality Relocator but takes an accessory slot

needs a rework

[frank mauve]

yeah i feel like its just a normality relocator into an accessory

but it takes stealth

[pearl shoal]

One can do: Use 2 stealth strikes, TP INTO THE BOSS, use another 2 stealth strikes

and ofc proc a lot of rogue accessories while at it

or just go hyper aggressive spam with stuff like Hypothermia

or Jaws of Oblivion

and you can do it every 10 seconds

this is banned in nohitting

[frank mauve]

but wouldnt that be possible with normality relocator aswell

oh wait normality doesnt give iframes?

[pearl shoal]

its due to the iframes as well as stealth refill

and it giving good stealth regen means you can skip silent reforges and just do lucky

also less cooldown (NR is 15 seconds)

[frank mauve]

wait 80 iframes

so u just have to tp and tank hits while spamming stealth strikes

well just taking hits during the iframes

[keen topaz]

How to get Herring Staff?

[elder nebula]

catch a fish

(a herring)

((with bug net))

[cedar hollow]

isn't it banned to make a world arena for no-hitting

i swear i remember that being a rule

[keen topaz]

fr?

[smoky dock]

no

you can use a world arena

Problems arise if you 'invalidate' certain boss patterns using it though

E.x. if you fallgod EoC you will be banned

[cedar hollow]

well the guy i'm watching would have his thing invalidated anyway cause he ragedrenalined to skip a boss phase

[neon stag]

Popping double rippers in nohits is insane

[cedar hollow]

and not allowed

if it's to skip phases

[smoky dock]

lol

[plain heron]

I keep getting deleted by brain of Cthulhu what should I change

[cedar hollow]

1

shield of cthulhu

2

what weapon is that i cant tell that well

[smoky dock]

NASTY CHOLLA LFGGG

[cedar hollow]

3 why band of regeneration

[plain heron]

Yup

[plain heron]

Idk can’t upgrade it ig

[smoky dock]

All in all uhhhh you can easily upgrade your Blue Horseshoe Balloon to a Yellow Horseshoe Balloon

Band of Regeneration is easily replaceable with a Potion of Regeneration and a Campfire

[plain heron]

How can I get the aerialite

[smoky dock]

No no, not the Bundle of Horseshoe Balloons

[plain heron]

Oh

[smoky dock]

Just the Yellow Horseshoe Balloon

[cedar hollow]

and shield of cthulhu is completely useless since calamity gives you a default dash

[smoky dock]

the Sandstorm in a Bottle is the strongest double jump in the game

[cedar hollow]

kill the evil 2 boss

[smoky dock]

The Cloud in a Bottle is the weakest

[cedar hollow]

and heart lantern

dont forget those

[plain heron]

What should I swap sheild of cthulu for then and band of regen

[smoky dock]

Oh yeah I forgor about that

Rover Drive is a really, really strong accessory pre-hardmode

[plain heron]

Lowk im using this asw

[cedar hollow]

replace band with abyssal amulet for damage

[smoky dock]

Crimson Flask isn't as good against BoC as it is against The Perforators but

[cedar hollow]

it's good af

[frank mauve]

gibblebon

[cedar hollow]

or luxors gift

[frank mauve]

we know ur a noob

[plain heron]

Ik I am too

[cedar hollow]

i'm going to commit

[smoky dock]

Abyssal Amulet is like, fine

[plain heron]

Don’t need to tell me

[frank mauve]

nah ur not bad

[smoky dock]

Nasty Cholla is not the ideal choice against BoC for a few reasons

[cedar hollow]

luxors is better than abyssal but abyssal is still good

[smoky dock]

I'd suggest running uhhhhh

Scourge of the Desert or Sand Doler or Sludge Splotch or something

[plain heron]

Can’t kill that either

I think it’s enraging tho idk

[cedar hollow]

use pierce or abyssal amulet for desert scourge

[plain heron]

Where do I get

[cedar hollow]

desert scourge? it's a boss

that drops scourge of the desert

[plain heron]

No the amulet

[cedar hollow]

fishing in the sulphur sea

idk any other methods

[plain heron]

Aight I’ll lyk if I kill them

[cedar hollow]

assuming you're doing inf

infernum

[plain heron]

Yeah

[cedar hollow]

if you don't want to cheese desert scourge don't use unstable core or amulet

he doesn't have good worm stuff so he gets cucked by those

[plain heron]

What abyssal amulet

[cedar hollow]

what

[plain heron]

U said dont use unstable core or amulet

What amulet

[cedar hollow]

abyssal

desert scourge is one of the very few worm bosses that still can have debuffs on every segment

[neon stag]

@frank mauve how long is superradiant kt on yharon

sub 5min?

[cedar hollow]

3 years

[vocal sentinel]

I look like a fucking flying ball 😔

[cedar hollow]

evil

[smoky dock]

It's a disease called Desert Scourge Syndrome 😔

It has no cure

[plain heron]

How can I boost my fishing power im using a 60% rod with a master bait and alluring bait

But im only getting 72

[smoky dock]

Fishing potion

Certain accessories (Angler Earring and its upgrades)

Angler armor

Luck

[neon stag]

The phase of the moon

[smoky dock]

Phase of the moon

Miscellaneous weather patterns

Size of the body of water

Presence of chum

Drunkenness

[plain heron]

Im in sulphur sea

[smoky dock]

Toilet status

[plain heron]

I think I get it …

[smoky dock]

Buoyancy

Flamingos

[plain heron]

Like life ring?

[smoky dock]

And I think that's it

Yep

Floating in a body of water with the inner tube gives you 5 fishing power

[plain heron]

So ima get in a life ring while drunk with flamingos and a potion

[smoky dock]

Yep

the Tipsy debuff adds 5 fishing power

the flamingo mount has the same function as the inner tube

[plain heron]

Flow state

[neon stag]

Bro genuinely reached flow state

[cedar hollow]

like storm weaver

except yellw

and bron

[cedar hollow]

sorry

what

[smoky dock]

The Tipsy debuff

Adds

Five

Fishing power

[cedar hollow]

sorry

what

why does it add 5 fishing power

are the fish like

alcoholics

and see you drunk so they think you have more

[smoky dock]

You’re not gonna question the toilet thing huh

or the inner tube

what if I told you murdering one of your NPCs improves your fishing power for a few minutes

but not all of them! only one of them. has to be the right one

[cedar hollow]

well that one's just obvious

[cedar hollow]

and that one

[cedar hollow]

goblin tinkerer

cause nobody fucking likes him

[smoky dock]

no killing him reduces your fishing power

[cedar hollow]

because he stank you up

cause he stinks

[gloomy wedge]

your fishing power is increased by 7 if your computer time is exactly 3:45 pm

[cedar hollow]

cause he's a piece of sh-

did you know fishing

[smoky dock]

yes actually

[plain heron]

What’s the best 50% bait power

Like easiest to get

[smoky dock]

👁️ 👁️

[neon stag]

master bait

[smoky dock]

It’s the only bait with 50% power

[plain heron]

It’s not

Acc

[smoky dock]

Golden critters are also at 50% actually but uhhh

Good luck

[smoky dock]

I always just use Buggies

[smoky dock]

:HUH:

News to me

But still. I prefer Buggies

[plain heron]

This why I need it 😕

[smoky dock]

I made a farm for them and got about 30,000 before I was finished

[plain heron]

Link the farm fr

[smoky dock]

What link?

I made it myself

I designed it myself

[plain heron]

Make a tut or sm

[neon stag]

I like traveling to the big planetoid, looting that shi, going to the shimmer and getting 30000 cans of worm

Easy +200 worms

[smoky dock]

^^^

Very good

Also good chance at a Golden Worm for a Gummy Worm

[tranquil yarrow]

Making it is as easy as throwing a bunch of lines of mud, give them some space, and letting the bushes grow before destroying them for grubbys sluggys or buggys.

[smoky dock]

Yep, bingo

That’s it

[tranquil yarrow]

(The jungle grass you need grass.)

[cedar hollow]

also trasher stack

it's not removed yet i think

[tranquil yarrow]

That and making buggy statues cuz grubbys and sluggys can turn into those and shimmer those back into buggys congrats free powerful bait for life.

[plain heron]

What do I add again?

[smoky dock]

I set up a minecart that runs below the line of shrubs, truggering activator rails that actuates the block directly above

[smoky dock]

Tackle Box

[cedar hollow]

do you have golden fishing rod

[smoky dock]

The Angler Earring stacks with its upgrades

Also Alluring Bait is only helpful if you’re fishing for potion fish

[plain heron]

Yep

[tranquil yarrow]

Smart.

[smoky dock]

actually maybe not…

hmm

[smoky dock]

When I ran out of jungle I had a teleporter trigger me to another level

And when I got sick of building more and ran out of layers, I sleep in a bed to refresh them

Gets about 150 in a minute

[frank mauve]

i havent used ss that far

[smoky dock]

But I might be wrong. It was a long time ago

[frank mauve]

i usually like variety so i only used it fo 2 bosses

[tranquil yarrow]

Either way they last you for a good while so 150 is like a good days worth of fishing provided no fargos mutant mod lol

[smoky dock]

fishing?

[neon stag]

I use like 10 weapons max during my infernum runs 🥹 ✌️

[tranquil yarrow]

I thought we were still on fishing.

[smoky dock]

no i didn’t use it for fishing

[neon stag]

No you eat them

[frank mauve]

i know u like to have fun

[smoky dock]

i needed 30,000 buggies for a boss fight

[tranquil yarrow]

Wait what?

[neon stag]

Vile feeder until pygmy staff

[frank mauve]

dont tell me its the anahita fight

[smoky dock]

no wrong fight

it was Argus

[frank mauve]

oh the picksaw classic

[tranquil yarrow]

Oh that video I remember now.

I suppose while I'm still here I might as well ask for a bunch of true melee suggestions.

Any point in progression just I need stuff to throw at the wall lol

[frank mauve]

yup

(no idea)

[neon stag]

Volcano -> sausage maker -> bladetongue -> submarine shocker -> butchers chainsaw -> stellar striker/gilded proboscis -> holy collider -> stellar striker -> murasama/enforcer -> dragon rage

[smoky dock]

Enforcer isn’t real

[neon stag]

thats the entire weapon progression line you will ever need

[frank mauve]

do scal first then get tainted ataraxia 🥹

[tranquil yarrow]

Perfect thanks.

[smoky dock]

Volcano isn’t a great option for EVERY boss early on

[neon stag]

Its the best option for perfs, which is what you need for sausage maker

[cedar hollow]

imo dark lance is better than sausage maker

[smoky dock]

Sahara Slicers will serve against The Perforators, Desert Scourge and Eater of Worlds

[neon stag]

less dps

[cedar hollow]

debuff

[neon stag]

less dps

[cedar hollow]

debuff

[smoky dock]

dps isn’t what matters against slime god

[cedar hollow]

yeah

[neon stag]

sausage maker wins

Neg diff

[smoky dock]

sausage maker just kinda can’t hit the core

At all

[cedar hollow]

dps is unreliable anyways

kill times better

[smoky dock]

And sg resists Sausage Maker’s debuff

[neon stag]

you dont even need to kill slime god

All of his drops are useless

[cedar hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/futbok-gif-25006414

[frank mauve]

perm upgrade

[smoky dock]

Night’s Edge is an easy to use option for WoF

[neon stag]

sausage maker more dps

[smoky dock]

Much less aggressive than spears

[neon stag]

[smoky dock]

I don’t buy it

Nor do I care

Weapon variety is important

[plain heron]

Just got 100 lines with fishing quest and like basically max luck gave this

[neon stag]

There is multiple choices here that get a slower killtime but might be a bit easier to use. The progression is about whats best not whats easy to use

[smoky dock]

what the fuck

[neon stag]

Efficiency >>

[smoky dock]

holy collider is never the best option

[neon stag]

Polterghast

[plain heron]

Nerf plants mush bro

[neon stag]

actually gilded might win, havent tried it

[cedar hollow]

being aggressive doesn't do much if you can barely even survive because you're kissing the boss

[smoky dock]

can’t hit polterghast any more often than holy collider than with anything else

[royal tide]

yo anyone know any mod fpr optmization? i have a goof pc, but a few many calamity addons mods and i lose like 80 fps, im playing rn at 100-120fps while i was getting 200

[fading dove]

tbf you dont get many per line and you only get multiple lines post plant

[neon stag]

Thats just a skill issue

[fading dove]

fps above 60 is useless

there is no change

[smoky dock]

Holy Collider’s main benefit doesn’t apply, so it only gets the downside of eh damage

I used The Mutilator for Polterghast

[neon stag]

Golden fishing rod, sitting ducks pole, fiberglass pole all give you extra lines unless thats a qol feature from a mod ive been using

[cedar hollow]

holy collider is the cop out option when you don't wanna craft anything

[fading dove]

yeah thats mutant mod

[neon stag]

ok

[smoky dock]

It’s a QoL option from FMM

[neon stag]

yeah im a slave to my qol

[smoky dock]

The first multi-line rod is Feral Fishing Rod made of Perennial

[fading dove]

feral double rod, whatever the uelibloom rod is, and the cosmilite rod are the only multi-line ones in cal iirc

[smoky dock]

Where you get a whopping TWO lines

[neon stag]

grinding in my boss killing mod

[cedar hollow]

TWO?!?!?!?

[smoky dock]

Also Rift Reeler

[fading dove]

ah right the fuckin

yeha

[cedar hollow]

crazy

[fading dove]

i could swear feral double rod used to have like

30% power

weird

is this the mancala effect

[smoky dock]

yeah

[scarlet saffron]

can someone give me a tip to beat DoG i have try to kill it for 200 times but always get smacked so hard by 3rd phase (its infernum one and also its summoner play through) also i have some issue to find correct key for dash is it any tip or smth????

[cedar hollow]

summoner?

ass

[scarlet saffron]

yup

[scarlet saffron]

ay its fun

[royal tide]

I notice its smoother tbh but the FPS drops are annoying.

[neon stag]

I use 9 to dash

[smoky dock]

The third phase chain teleports are always done exactly five times in a row. The sixth portal will have a slightly longer delay by about a second, will have no fireballs, and will cleanly transition into the basic dashing behavior

[cedar hollow]

but fr summoner is like the worst class for DoG if it takes you over 200 attempts for your first time it's not that surprising

[tranquil yarrow]

Not gonna say what I'm doing yet but

Volcano does not work sadly
Sausage maker completely breaks on animation
Bladetounge positioned properly triples DPS.
Subshocker does less dps rip
Butchers 100k lmfao
Stellar striker doing quadruple its dps
Golded Proboscis also breaks (might be a spear thing)
Holy Collider triple dps on a good day
Murasama does not work :(
Enforcer quadruple dps
(I got fargos dlc on so 30% damage nerf on dragon rage) Even with the nerf is hitting 400-500k so this could very well be higher.

[cedar hollow]

the best advice i can give you is that when the devourer comes out of the portal it always appears directly above you

[fading dove]

close! drage hits 1.2m dps on maso exos

i think it genuinely needs a 0.3x mod until 2.0 drops

[scarlet saffron]

ouhhh, and any tips for the 2nd phase? im little bit struggle with the charge attack of DoG

[smoky dock]

What the hell are you talking about

[fading dove]

volcano i remember testing against eternity perfs and it was pretty good

[scarlet saffron]

ouhhh like that alr noted

[cedar hollow]

and will always be above you

[fading dove]

not too easy to use but still pretty good

[smoky dock]

volcano is meta for like, the vast majority of phm

At least in Infernum where you’re allowed to hit

[scarlet saffron]

well my friend tell me its the best class so yeah

[fading dove]

summoner's the best on average but its worst showing is on inf dog where its strong but everything else is stronger

[smoky dock]

You can definitely find faster killtimes with other weapons like mycelial claws and sahara slicers but uhhhhh

Saharas are a really weird weapon

[cedar hollow]

melee or ranger is the best class for DoG i believe

[fading dove]

ah not 1.2, just 1.07

[smoky dock]

[fading dove]

weaponless is if you sell your soul to the heartbeat

[tranquil yarrow]

I don't know if I could show on video cuz internets ass but I discovered that the Wulfrum Drill is secretly a top tier in the sense that Ore Excavator causes a lot of weapons to casually become a Kingsbane.

[smoky dock]

lmao???

real

[cedar hollow]

saharas is wulfrum screwdriver but bone knife so instead of screwing over your enemies you're boning your ene-

[smoky dock]

real

[cedar hollow]

idek what that is

[hardy pewter]

after beaitng ml with wraths of gods and calamity fargos dlc my game started slowing down really bad during bossfights, is there anything i can do about it?

[smoky dock]

best accessory in the game

[scarlet saffron]

oof, so i must break my keyboard to perfectly dodge all is attack? oh gad its gonna take 100 more attempt

[smoky dock]

highest damage output viable deep into post-ml

[smoky dock]

highest survivability capable of facetanking dog

[eternal junco]

That heart lets you face tank dog?????

[smoky dock]

Yeah

[fading dove]

https://youtu.be/NiPyfDKD0Vs

[smoky dock]

Try it!

[eternal junco]

I don't think I will

Wrll

I'll do it on like. A weekend

[fading dove]

this is to my knowledge the record on tier speedkill

[smoky dock]

someone challenged me to beat dog in a 3x3 box

[eternal junco]

Cause I never play terraria in the week

Cause I can't focus because I just can't wait to get home and play terraris

[eternal junco]

I would perish

[smoky dock]

what’s the killtime?

[eternal junco]

Irl

[fading dove]

0:37

[smoky dock]

yoooo

[hardy pewter]

also what happened to my chairs

[smoky dock]

stools now

[fading dove]

what the fuck

[eternal junco]

Stooled

[elder nebula]

the termites got them

[fading dove]

half of them are missing and half of the remaining ones are stools

[cedar hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112873622562947104/1442379515719319612/calcord.gif

[eternal junco]

Infernum EOW got to them

[smoky dock]

good

[hardy pewter]

i have no dieea what could of caused this last time i was there they were all fine

beat moonlord

[smoky dock]

they can’t handle the sooth

[hardy pewter]

and all chairs are gone

[smoky dock]

robbed

[fading dove]

ive released a scourge onto this server

[smoky dock]

good

[distant lance]

can I still get Brimstone Crescent Staff on actual version of Calamity?

[smoky dock]

Brimstone Crescent Staff is an Infernum item, not a Calamity item

[distant lance]

I mean infernum, yeah

[neon stag]

On basecal, no.

[neon stag]

on infernum, yes

[distant lance]

do I need to kill calamitas clone underground?

[neon stag]

In the brimstone crags

[fading dove]

*underworld

she's just gotta stay alive for long enough to realise that she is indeed in hell

just tank her for like 20 seconds and then butcher her

[distant lance]

hm, doesn't seem to work

[fading dove]

are you fighting calamitas clone or forgotten shadow of calamitas

[distant lance]

forgotten shadow

[tranquil yarrow]

Do what you will with this information but know that everything is completely normal and this will totally not break the game lol https://streamable.com/f4bp99

[azure bane]

no that’s late hm

[neon stag]

In terms of difficulty, post ml is the hardest

as for the worst part, I would say probably say pre perfs or post golem

[azure bane]

honestlyyyy

my personal least favorite part of progression is between profaned guardians and polterghast

providence is like the only highlight in that for me

I fucking hate guardians, the servants are kind of all just eh

and i despise polterghast

[smoky dock]

But after guards you get the peakest of peak accessory loadouts

[azure bane]

Like what

[neon stag]

fuck warbanner

[smoky dock]

Warbanner and HoAD

[azure bane]

Oh yeah you like true melee

Lmao

[smoky dock]

Gilded Proboscis hyper aggro

[azure bane]

what is HoAD

[smoky dock]

Basically drugs

[azure bane]

Can you Unacronym it

[smoky dock]

Hide of Astrum Deus

SS tier weapon hiding from the authorities using an accessory disguise

[pallid tide]

relative to infernum dog how bad is infernum yharon

[smoky dock]

It’s a hard comparison since DoG is a weird fight

DoG is really hard to practice fighting since mistakes are suuuuper punishing

[pallid tide]

how about compared to the rest of infernum so far

[smoky dock]

Definitely harder

[pallid tide]

higher or lower than guardiand

[smoky dock]

Uhhh

It’s all subjective

Personally I find Yharon harder but that’s because the true melee options for Yharon are generally weaker and I’ve fought Profaned Guardians way more often

[neon stag]

Well its hard to say

From a first time players standpoint dog is usually harder, but difficulty is very very subjective and dog is one of those bosses that simply become easier as you fight him time after time

[smoky dock]

i beat the crap out of guards for fun a few times

booted the game up
used cheats to gear up for guards
beat them to death
shut game down

[unkempt mesa]

what is the best rogue weapon for signus?

[pallid tide]

stealth or spam

[unkempt mesa]

stealth

i finally gasp the essence of rogue after providence and has been using stealth since

[pallid tide]

pretty sure i used bloodsoaked crusher and just threw it vertically since ittl bounce

[fading dove]

profaned partisan

[unkempt mesa]

is the profaned temple a good arena

or should I make my own

[random solstice]

Guys what are some good calamity addons, like the top 5, cos im gonna do wotg, wotm and infernum, is there any else i should have

[random solstice]

Yes you shouldnt need to make an arena, itll probably get in the way anyways

[pallid tide]

temple works

[smoky dock]

🎉

[unkempt mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-8872922284431337007

[tender gust]

how to defeat dog infernum

[frank mauve]

step 1: summon boss
step 2: shoot weapon
step 3: win

[tender gust]

does normality relocator not work

[frank mauve]

why would u use it

prob loadout issue atp 🤔

[tender gust]

huh

[pallid tide]

you need to trap him in a pattern of repeatedly dodging back and forth in either a horizontal or vertical line

[frank mauve]

what im saying is

ur loadout SUCK

[tender gust]

how do ytuo know

[pallid tide]

angel treads????????????

[tender gust]

oh right i can upgrade them

[frank mauve]

absorber, treads and permafrost are bad

[pallid tide]

you dont need boots at all

and also absorber is meh

[tender gust]

what to replace for htem

[frank mauve]

everything for offensive accessories

[pallid tide]

put ampoule instead of absorber

then replace boots and permafrost with whatever the best damage accessories are for your tier

[tender gust]

is community worth it

[frank mauve]

❌

[tender gust]

then what is

what else to replace

[frank mauve]

omega blue armor

and use vitriolic viper

[tender gust]

why omega blue armour

[fading dove]

better

also reaper tooth necklace is very iffy at best

its only ever worth running when you know exactly what youre doing

[tender gust]

what to replace for it then

[fading dove]

i like ascendant insignia so that i can play more aggressively with the higher flight time

[wet rock]

unless I am wrong , infernum only adds items and not difficulty if I dont play on it but enable it right

[fading dove]

also if you run omega blue armour, drop ampoule for either sealocket or abrain

[fading dove]

it makes the abyss useless and changes the boss rush order if you don't enable the difficulty

[tender gust]

why does it make the abyss useless

[fading dove]

the infernum abyss only functions when infernum (difficulty) is enabled

[tender gust]

ive got infernum on

[wet rock]

does anyone have a preference between using cheatsheet&hero vs Dragonlens?

and can recommend me?

[fading dove]

dragonlens easily

[wet rock]

thanks Ill ask for more opinions tho cuz as Ive looked at it, it seems a ton more "cheaty" than the other 2, I only want to build with it

[pallid tide]

it doesnt matter how cheaty something is if youre just gonna use it for one thing

[frank mauve]

cheatsheet has way less options but is pretty straightforward

[pallid tide]

and theres nothing wrong with cheating anyway so its chill

dragonlens seems a bit more capable but also a little harder to use so id just start with cheatsheet and see if that can do the job

[wet rock]

I think Ill go with dragon lens and see if its enough/too much thanks

[smoky dock]

I looooove Dragonlens

[maiden cobalt]

do you have your permission slip

[neon stag]

Vitriolic viper, omegablue armor

• Elysian wings
• Elysian aegis
• Sigil of calamitas
• Destroyer emblem
• Amalgamated brain
• Flesh totem
• any accessory of your preference

[fading dove]

flesh totem isnt very good due to it being affected by dr scaling

[neon stag]

[fading dove]

remember to reforge everything to warding to make mistakes less punishing

you can easily tank the head with a standard loadout

[neon stag]

From 700 damage to 660 damage!! So good!!!

Warding is ass post moonlord lmao

[fading dove]

okay and you arent guaranteed to be at full hp

[neon stag]

Warding is cope

[fading dove]

again, warding is the best accessory modifier for general play, nobody worth their salt will ever disagree

even in speedkills, warding has its place

[neon stag]

warding won't help you live an extra hit, so it's not really useful, so jsut kill the boss faster is better

[fading dove]

lets you tank death fire into p3 head

so it does

as pictured here
https://youtu.be/3h3Q33HM05w?t=64

[neon stag]

That extra 30 defense isnt doing shit lmao

[onyx igloo]

Its -49 damage with warding iirc and the 7% extra DR

[smoky dock]

You'd be surprised

[neon stag]

Its not actually 7% dr

[smoky dock]

Warding is pret-ty good

[fading dove]

i lived with 24 hp, 24 is less than the 62 extra i wouldve taken had i not run warding

[neon stag]

going warding is cope post moonlord, it wont let you take an extra hit post moonlord making it just useless compared to killing the bosses faster

[fading dove]

????

[onyx igloo]

what????

[fading dove]

it very much does cross thresholds

[onyx igloo]

do we play the same game

[neon stag]

You wouldve killed the boss faster and wouldnt have taken a hit at all with warding

[waxen tide]

acting like every hit is 700 +

[fading dove]

you've done nothing but cope the entire time i've interacted with you

"oohhhhh stellar striker is better than lion heart!"
"ooohhhhh warding is actually useless postml!!!!"

[neon stag]

meh, I have actual experience fighting inf dog. All ive seen from you are takes that seem like rahebait

[onyx igloo]

Half of their takes are either satire or aimless from past experiences

[neon stag]

Stellar striker is better

factually factual lol

[fading dove]

lion heart has 0.5x damage taken on m2

[neon stag]

Anything else is just cope

[fading dove]

ive tested both

stellar striker has not gotten close to lion heart

[onyx igloo]

Albeit temporary it's huge

[neon stag]

You did the testing wrong in that case

lol

[fading dove]

okay

[neon stag]

just cuz you think something is bad doesnt make it bad

[fading dove]

how would you suggest i eliminate possible bias?

[onyx igloo]

Basically flesh totem but 10x better and is a weapon

[fading dove]

i used the same loadout and the same buffs and the same routing

[onyx igloo]

Perhaps you try wearing the same pair of shoes and using the same gaming chair

Might make a difference

-# this is a joke

[fading dove]

i've also noticed that you go silent and don't respond when i bring this up

[onyx igloo]

Dont you always use the best loadout for each class but just use a different on tier weapon

[neon stag]

Yeah cuz talking to you is just interacting with rage bait

[fading dove]

i use a standardised loadout tailored to a somewhat aggressive yet still relatively easy to use playstyle for comparisons for the everyman

[neon stag]

youre using both of the weapons on a build only suitable for one of them then wonder why the other one sucks

[onyx igloo]

so basically what the average player would usually use

With of course accessories that benefit the specific weapon

[fading dove]

omega blue armour
affliction
elysian wings
elysian aegis
cherished sealocket
ascendant insignia
class stat stick 1
class stat stick 2

[onyx igloo]

Like using badge of bravery for a fake melee weapon or Warbanner withbtrue

[fading dove]

for mage these are arcane flower and sigil of calamitas

for tmelee these are warbanner and fire gauntlet

[onyx igloo]

I saw an old video of someone beating inf dog in a 50x50 area with deaths Ascension true melee attack and coiling

[onyx igloo]

It's awfully quiet don't you think

[fading dove]

i do remember seeing that

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[onyx igloo]

I hear crickets wbu