calamity-addon-talk

[spice stag]

idk what noxus is

[lusty kindle]

Old name for Avatar.

[nimble wing]

he's dead and gone, that's what he is

avatar is not noxus at all he is a complete replacement

[spice stag]

so where is deity

[nimble wing]

that's certainly weird

show modlist

[limber raptor]

THESE WINGS SUCK

THEY FLY LIKE 1 SECOND

WHY NOT LIKE THE IDK

YHARON WINGS BUT WORSE

[nimble wing]

what wings

[neon stag]

Fledgling prob

[grim falcon]

[limber raptor]

fledge wings

fledging

[grim falcon]

theyre pre-hardmode wings

[limber raptor]

STILL

wait

[grim falcon]

idk why you expected much 😭

[limber raptor]

do u guys think

after 12 hours

im finally ready to kill eye of cuthulu

[neon stag]

[nimble wing]

fledgling wings are preboss

[nimble wing]

they kinda need to be terrible

[limber raptor]

what

yes

[nimble wing]

flight boots help a lot

[spice stag]

how

ok apparently cheat sheet is the problem google said

nvm didnt fix

[limber raptor]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

I BEAT THE EYE

OH MY LORD

FINALLY

[spice stag]

whats wrong with my game

[dull stratus]

im playing eclipse of rangnarok. is this a good rouge build for skeletron prime?

[nimble wing]

my best guess is like, atmospheric torches

or maybe anime pets somehow

btw Fancy Lighting is objectively(?) better than lights and shadows

[full citrus]

Anyone have issues with solyn and the telescope?

[spice stag]

still not working

[nimble wing]

wait what the barnacles

uhhh

[nimble wing]

wait no, remove Terraria Ambience

i've heard specifically of it conflicting with wotg

idk why i didn't call that out before

[spice stag]

yea that was the issue

[nimble wing]

coolio

[lucid rapids]

Anyone got any good optimization mods for calamity/infernum so they run better

[limber raptor]

GUYS I JUST GOT SHADOW GEMS

2 OF THEM

MY FIRST ONES

WHATS THE SMARTEST THING TO CRAFT

[elder nebula]

they're only used as a replacement for diamonds in magic storage components

[limber raptor]

huh

but diamonds dont work for me

[elder nebula]

wait
shadow diamond or shadow gem

[limber raptor]

uhm

idk

shadow diamond

[elder nebula]

ok then the thing i said

[limber raptor]

okay so

why dont diamonds work

[maiden cobalt]

take a screenshot of it

[limber raptor]

im not there rn

[maiden cobalt]

of the. item. once you can

[limber raptor]

okay

[round sphinx]

Alright that's the last time I die to this

[limber raptor]

watch out u might fall

[limber raptor]

nvm it works! thank you

[maiden cobalt]

i

okay i got a question

[limber raptor]

im dying

😭😭

[maiden cobalt]

why the fuck is he here?????????????????????????????????????????????

[limber raptor]

i said i hate yharon

that hurt his feelings

so he came to me to explain why i shouldnt hate him

please tell me u found that funny

half of my npcs died just for that laughable

[maiden cobalt]

it was indeed funny

how'd he even spawn

[limber raptor]

im glad

[smoky dock]

:(

[limber raptor]

i have an account where i was already at draedon

[maiden cobalt]

like what mod did that

[smoky dock]

is that the witch doctor living in such squalor???

[maiden cobalt]

ahhhhh.

[smoky dock]

he needs better living conditions!!

[limber raptor]

but that wasnt infernum

[frank mauve]

lihzahrd

can u do ur scal nohit with grax

[limber raptor]

can u nohit me lihzahrd

[azure bane]

dont worry

i treat him right

[smoky dock]

sure

[smoky dock]

YAAAY

[azure bane]

it's lowkey unfinished

idk what to do with the other 2 rooms

💔

[frank mauve]

hoad with old fashioned will save u

[azure bane]

yo

why are the new wotg items lowkey insane

infinite 80% bait

[limber raptor]

im shedding a tear of joy

[azure bane]

platforms that u can make an arena in seconds with

[limber raptor]

i can finally use magic storage

[azure bane]

this is legendary qol

[azure bane]

YAY

enjoy becoming a hoarder

[frank mauve]

FUCK magic storage

[limber raptor]

its going to make my life so much easier

[limber raptor]

WHAT

[frank mauve]

i never use fraud storage

fuck that mod

[limber raptor]

why not

[azure bane]

this guy has a room full of chests because he hates convenience

[limber raptor]

LOLLL

[azure bane]

or they

we're not gender assuming here.

[frank mauve]

just manage ur inventory

and SELL EVERYTHING

[limber raptor]

sell?

i only need my crystals..

[azure bane]

"manage ur inventory" with some of the most inventory bloating mods ever

[limber raptor]

😭

[frank mauve]

ngl even after playing vanilla, calamity wasnt that bad at all with chests

[azure bane]

well i like not having to make an entire chest room

fuck i need to make a room with all my relics

i dont wanna do that either

ill do it when i beat scal idc

[frank mauve]

i dont like having bugs

so i dont use magic storage

[limber raptor]

i dont like silver

[azure bane]

I LOVE HOARDING

[azure bane]

i dont really get bugs

[frank mauve]

i dont like calamity

[azure bane]

the only bug ive had in my run so far is like

[frank mauve]

i hate every boss

[azure bane]

solyn not spawning properly and idek if that was cuz of storage

[frank mauve]

how did yharon get here

[limber raptor]

evil bird

[frank mauve]

ur in prehm

[azure bane]

why do u have bombs in ur hotbar

bro is asking to blow up his base

[limber raptor]

i dobnt know

i did

multiple times

[azure bane]

[limber raptor]

see all these 4 holes

just because i was to lazy to put them in my inventory

trivia question

what do u need to craft a chest

[azure bane]

fortnite

[frank mauve]

5 auric bars and 80 shadowspec bars

[limber raptor]

thanks

[frank mauve]

its really cheap

[azure bane]

yo i do not wanna go in the abyss

[limber raptor]

i hate abyss

[azure bane]

my thalassophobia is insanely bad

[limber raptor]

its so scary

[azure bane]

abyss traumatized me when i was a wee babby

[frank mauve]

now whats a thallaosodosssphobia

[limber raptor]

dude i once used rod of discord kitten and then i saw a giant wee wee fly to me

[limber raptor]

WE BOTH USED WEE

[azure bane]

Thalassophobia is an intense, persistent fear of deep bodies of water like the ocean, characterized by anxiety about the vastness, darkness, or what might lurk beneath the surface, triggering symptoms like panic attacks, rapid heart rate, and shortness of breath, often managed through therapies like CBT and exposure therapy to confront the fear gradually. It's distinct from fear of water (aquaphobia) and can stem from trauma, evolutionary instincts, or cultural influences, with triggers including images of deep water, large sea creatures, or the endless abyss.

[limber raptor]

how

[azure bane]

heh

im a robot

[frank mauve]

i think u need uhhh

[limber raptor]

did u type that LESS in such a LONG ime

[frank mauve]

therapy 🤔

[azure bane]

yo

cbt therapy??

i dont think that would help

wait

[limber raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-comment-above-is-true-even-his-gang-he-made-a-statement-made-a-statement-gif-10147099013761757373

[azure bane]

im thinking of the WRONG term

[frank mauve]

u should have exposure therapy by going into the abyss

[limber raptor]

WE can go to the abyss together

[frank mauve]

and then we can use rod

[limber raptor]

and then we kill that spooky thing

[frank mauve]

i bet it doesnt even have that much health

[limber raptor]

that i am still very much traumatized of

i bet too

my lumberjack wont spawn after yharon murderd him

welp

help

[azure bane]

NNNOPE

i have to go and ill procrastinate it as much as i can

im gonna fight clamitas

clamity mod is so dumb i love it

[limber raptor]

wait is calamitas that big ass worm??

guys what weapon should i have for giant clam

[round sphinx]

I treat everyone equally here

[remote marten]

you can just use what u currently have clam isnt too hard to beat

[limber raptor]

okay

[pastel ruin]

yo is there anything i need to change abt my prescal loadout

[limber raptor]

clam is impossible

what the hell

i got demolished dude

its harder than eye of cuthulu

and desert scourge

[remote marten]

it just cycles the same attacks

[limber raptor]

hard

[remote marten]

if u get in the rythm it wont do anything u wont expect it only has like 3 or 4 attacks

just dont get stuck in a cave or smth and u can just slide left and right to dodge its slams

and then just swim around with flipper potion or smth to dodge projectiles

[limber raptor]

can i drag it outseide or will it enrage

[remote marten]

i mean yea u can but getting it out of the sunken sea prob more tedious than drinking gills and flipper and just doing it in a clearing

[smoky dock]

well I don't

Everyone else gets the meat grinder, Witch Doctor gets to live

[frank bluff]

i can't believe polterghast took me more attempts against guards

[smoky dock]

It's a great sacrifice too! I can't build the Guide Grinder

[limber raptor]

what about maxwell

spare him

[frank bluff]

like actually help

[smoky dock]

if they are made of flesh I'm eating them

[smoky dock]

oh well i can tell why

[limber raptor]

void is like the coolest boss imo

[limber raptor]

but its maxwell

[frank bluff]

i'm doing polterghast

[limber raptor]

i still find it the coolest

[frank bluff]

why

@smoky dock answer me buh

[smoky dock]

STARE

[maiden cobalt]

the eldritch soul artifact in question:

[frank bluff]

i used it for signus

i hate whispering death

i'll change it to pact again

[limber raptor]

why is my alchemist so gassy

[maiden cobalt]

?

he doesnt inflict whispering death

polter doesnt

[frank bluff]

i said

signus

not polter

[frank mauve]

why are u using THAT accessory

can they make eldritch artifact boost minions knockback

🔥

[frank bluff]

guh

i don't think i'm gonna use pact

i do well against polter

lemme check what accesory to swith for

[limber raptor]

if u were maxwell what would be a breakfast ud recommend

maxwell is my guide

[frank bluff]

guh

i really want to use destroyer emblem but

[frank mauve]

hot chocolate and bagels

[limber raptor]

im eating eggs

[frank mauve]

hot chocolate in eggs

[limber raptor]

no

[smoky dock]

kill maxwell

[frank mauve]

eggs in bagels

[frank bluff]

chat

[smoky dock]

you get good luck

[limber raptor]

leave him alone

[frank bluff]

moscow mule or star beam rye

[limber raptor]

hes my day one

[frank mauve]

prikki

[limber raptor]

rye

[smoky dock]

eat him

[frank mauve]

how do i make a melee weapon really big

[smoky dock]

moscow mule

[limber raptor]

as breakfast?

[frank mauve]

what accessories can stack 🤔

[smoky dock]

i never tried

[frank mauve]

im gonna use purity on murasama

[smoky dock]

none of them

[frank mauve]

im so evil

[smoky dock]

murasama isn't affected by size

[frank mauve]

i care about grax

no one likes murasama

[smoky dock]

grax is small to begin with so the percentage based size improvements won't do much

[frank mauve]

im gonna make the grax so big they'll think its drage

[frank bluff]

i think i really need to stop using spite candle

[frank mauve]

use vigor

[limber raptor]

the clam is so hard

[smoky dock]

use fargo's souls dlc

[frank mauve]

im gonna kill mutant with grax aswell

i hope it has at least 5% contribution

[smoky dock]

real

[frank bluff]

am i ready

[limber raptor]

WHY DO I MAKE NO DAMAGE TO THE GIANT CLAM

[frank bluff]

very high dr

[smoky dock]

try it and see

you have no idea whether a setup will or will not be effective without trying it

[frank bluff]

it's aight

[smoky dock]

well now you can keep trying with it or witch it up

[frank bluff]

ok i got to desperation

but died before it begins

[frank mauve]

who even inflicts whispering death

[limber raptor]

whats a good weapon against clam

cuz its like actually the hardest boss yet

[frank mauve]

whats even clams point of progression i forgot

[limber raptor]

i killed eoc and ds

[smoky dock]

signut

omniblade

[frank mauve]

oh sigma too

oh dog does

[smoky dock]

if i had to guess it'd be post-ds and hardmode

[frank mauve]

so signus dog and polter

[frank bluff]

AKLJHSFJKAUHSFDHJ<SGK

[spice stag]

is there any mod i can add that gives me one health

[frank bluff]

4 left

[frank mauve]

i thought it was early hardmode

[limber raptor]

dont u need 17

[smoky dock]

guess what there are TWO GIANT CLAMS

[limber raptor]

18

[limber raptor]

i cant even beat one

[frank mauve]

isnt hell post 1 evil

[smoky dock]

yeah

[frank mauve]

i think u should beat clam post evil 1

[smoky dock]

Clamitas is post-ds
Supreme Clamitas is post-WoF

[limber raptor]

whats evil 1

[elder nebula]

eater of worlds/brain of cthulhu

[frank mauve]

evil and 1

[smoky dock]

evil1 is one of either Eater of Worlds and Brain of Cthulhu

Either one suffices

Whichever one's more convenient

[limber raptor]

but my cool book says otherwise

[elder nebula]

that book is evil

kill it

[limber raptor]

why

its cool

[elder nebula]

also extremely unstable

[frank mauve]

isnt that the normal clam

[nimble wing]

it can also randomly flip or wipe boss death states

[limber raptor]

giant clam

[frank mauve]

normal clam

[limber raptor]

oh

[limber raptor]

clearly says giant clam

[frank mauve]

where do u think this giant clam is located

[frank bluff]

17 what

[limber raptor]

at here

[frank mauve]

yup correct

u win 4 billion dollars

[limber raptor]

thank you

[limber raptor]

kill

[frank bluff]

i don't 😭

[frank mauve]

i will take a small cut of 99.999999% sorry

[limber raptor]

okay the clam is free

its just i cant make any damage to it

[frank bluff]

is affliction worth to use

[limber raptor]

so thats the reason i die

im good in reality guys

i could beat it

but not now

bc of my weapon

its not me

im not bad

stop

[frank mauve]

its never ur fault

always the games fault

[limber raptor]

i shall bring calamity down

[smoky dock]

"Boss Checklist 0:00.000 speedrun guide"
"Create a new world, check if SCal and Exos are dead, if not, dead run"

[limber raptor]

thats it im getting my tesla armor and a copper sword

[frank bluff]

chat

[limber raptor]

and slowly murder it

[frank bluff]

should i use dark spark for DoG

[limber raptor]

painful and slow death

to make it scream in agony

beg for mercy

and im gonna pierce it with my copper short sword

this game is to hard

im quiting

[maiden cobalt]

@smoky dock can you tryitandsee. com or whatever its called

[smoky dock]

tryitands.ee

👍

[maiden cobalt]

the WEBsite.

the Tryer

[limber raptor]

guys what boss do i go for after defeating eye of cuthulu

brain?

[smoky dock]

https://tenor.com/view/try-it-and-see-give-it-a-try-try-try-and-see-try-it-yourself-gif-24095805

[smoky dock]

Crabulon, optionally

[maiden cobalt]

yes there it is

[smoky dock]

evil1 is the next major progression point

[limber raptor]

crabulon is impossible

[smoky dock]

King Slime and Desert Scourge are there if you haven't already

[limber raptor]

king slime is to boring

desert scourge was to hard

but i killed it anyway

#swag

[spice stag]

what mod makes me one health so i can try to no hit a boss

[smoky dock]

Don't set your HP to 1 for nohitting
Use Nycro's Nohit Efficiency and set Instant Death to Always or Bosses

[maiden cobalt]

why shouldnt you, might i ask?

[smoky dock]

1 HP allows some things that nohits don't allow, and 1 HP disallows some things nohits allow

For exampleeee dodges and alcohol intoxication

[maiden cobalt]

ahh

[smoky dock]

Taking damage in nohits is 👍 as long as you don't get hit

[maiden cobalt]

its a nohit not a nodamage

[smoky dock]

right

[spice stag]

i just downloaded it do i need to change anything within the mod first

[smoky dock]

the mod does a grand total of nothing until you play with the config

so change the config

[spice stag]

do i just do this

[onyx igloo]

If crabulon is impossible then skeletron will be worse than death for yoy

[onyx igloo]

yeah

don't forget Javyz kill you mod

It will instantaneously kill you if you take DoT

[smoky dock]

ew

[onyx igloo]

Like touching a Hellstone brick during a boss, or going outside a boss arena

[smoky dock]

but how'll you use toxic shart then

[onyx igloo]

Any damage over time will eviscerate you

[onyx igloo]

If it's self inflicted that's different

But any damage over time that's inflicted via enemy or third party will kill you

It's a part of no hit rules, any damage over time disqualifies a no hit, such as leaving the inf Deerclops arena, or mutant arena, boss auras, etcetera

[smoky dock]

Oh right

[onyx igloo]

Also no clue if it's the same for infernum but the CEG no hit rules also dq debuff nullification

like bosses that inflict perma Debuffs and if you use a debuff nullifier on said boss, it's also dq

[smoky dock]

I don't think that debuffs from things like hellstone or astral ore should count since you probably had to put it there intentionally but

eh

it's such a niche ruling

[onyx igloo]

it's just to prevent any damage to the player

via boss and third party

[smoky dock]

I'm not super certain about that

I do know that taking damage from debuffs caused by exiting an arena is illegal

[onyx igloo]

can't be a no hit if you take damage

[smoky dock]

But I guess there's no way to take any debuffs besides either inflicting it yourself or getting hit so uhhh

[smoky dock]

I've nohit bosses having taken damage

[onyx igloo]

Ceg allows self inflicted Debuffs like debuff installation from the twins since that is entirely the player at fault

[smoky dock]

Ah

[onyx igloo]

but that's because the player had inflicted the debuff

[smoky dock]

Yeah I assume the rules are more complex in Souls considering there's just more stuff that could happen

[onyx igloo]

I'm right now just doing souls, and then I'll do another playthrough of 2 hits allowed

Then I'll have a no hit run done afterwards

Possibly throw a thorium max 2 hits before the souls

But who knows, I like souls a lot and haven't done thorium

[smoky dock]

i'm doing an Infernum nohit journey

[onyx igloo]

I think my biggest problem will be king slime, golem, and queen slime

[smoky dock]

I took a break after Argus because it took a lot of effort to farm all the Buggies

[onyx igloo]

Simple bosses but underwhelming gear

[onyx igloo]

top hat squirrel might have a deal for you

an expensive deal

[smoky dock]

sorry i put the squirrel into the meat grinder

i need food somehow

[onyx igloo]

I just want that damn ceg title so bad

Masoftw doesn't give any bragging rights except for beating it, CEG gives a ROLE

[smoky dock]

yooo...

[fading dove]

walterheisenbergwhite

[chilly prawn]

does anyone know how to increase the murasama dmg in calamity overhaul? im killing the bosses but the damage does not increase

[gloomy wedge]

Please don’t use calamity overhaul

It steals from other mods and is generally just low quality

On top of that it can corrupt your world

[chilly prawn]

im just testing it on a random world to see how it is

but idk how to increase the damage

it just gives me the skills

[fading dove]

kill bosses i think

[chilly prawn]

yeah I did that but it only gives me the trial points for the skills

maybe it doesnt work on multiplayer?

[wheat kraken]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn3p2PwPyzc 1/47 babyyy

[dull stratus]

anyway i can improve this set? this is post skeletron prime on eclipse of rangarok.

[wheat kraken]

this is probably fine

[cedar hollow]

can anyone make out what texture pack this guy is using

z`

cataclysmic

[iron sandal]

Building my infernum world up and how is this for a base arena

I plan to expand later by going down to 0' since that is something of a good idea from yardis' videos

[frank bluff]

hank

[indigo patio]

Feels kinda unnecessary. I honestly don't even bother with arenas past skyline wings. At most a platform in the sky but that's about it

[frank mauve]

nah

[frank bluff]

why do people use very long arena

i don't understand

[iron sandal]

Mostly its just for the long horizontal sections if the boss allows for it

[frank bluff]

tbh very unnecessary

[iron sandal]

And its very tall since it goes to the cavern layer and up as here, I am not mining the whole thing out yet because I need to replace platforms later for when I have better jumps

Its kinda for me as I am not very good at infernum and arenas carry at times

[frank bluff]

i would just make 3-4 platforms at ocean

[frank bluff]

and that would be my world arena

starting at duke fishron

[vocal owl]

can someone give me tips on providence

i keep dying to the crystal phase

[rough gulch]

cant ever got soln to spawn plus last time i got the flagpole and placed it, speaked to her i leave the world and come back the flagpole is gone

can anyone explain

im not sure if i need to be in hardmode after beating skeletron or pre

[frank mauve]

start top left go down fly to the right

[rare crest]

not big enough for king slime

[rare crest]

she spawns in the night u killed skeletron or soon after, she shouldnt despawn

[iron sandal]

funnily enough he was the hardest one out of Scourge and eye as well, they were both 1 tries but slime got me a bit, its mostly the crown's accuracy that was getting me, not king slime himself

[rare crest]

his red gem thing is hard actually

wait nvm thats infernum

its rotted my brain

[indigo patio]

A tip, do a quick jump before it shoots and it will fly over head every single time

[iron sandal]

This is for infernum so yeah lol

[indigo patio]

Oh then my tip applies to you as well. Also what stage of the game are you in? This is definitely overkill for pre-hardmode let alone early enough for king slime.

[iron sandal]

Im using off tier gear but was at the time preboss

[torpid axle]

How do I complete the genesis, I beat mars, now what?

[iron sandal]

Im up to world evil now in progression, using ranger for EoW since it seems stronger than melee on him but might be wrong

[indigo patio]

I mean id just use volcano and stab it in the face but you have to fish to do that

[torpid axle]

For wrath of the gods

[cedar hollow]

lunatic cultist when he realizes you can just stand still for his entire desp

[rough gulch]

why the long face

[iron sandal]

Ah well I was already using hell equipment so thats a valid one too, But the upgraded flare gun too is on the hellstone tier so its also valid imo

[cedar hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[cedar hollow]

i found the texture pack btw

[indigo patio]

I mean I don't know if I'd use that for EoW even playing ranger tbh I'd probably use the molten fury with unholy or jester maybe hellfire if I'm lazy. But volcano has wide swings which make it easy to hit all of them at once and it's melee so you have molten armor can tank and do great damage

[vestal plinth]

how do I improve performance? i'm getting lag spikes in late game infernum and don't really know how to fix them. i messed around with the settings and disabled a few mods but theyre still happening and idk what to do

[rose spindle]

i beat infernum slime god and the game randomly decides to crash and when i got back my loot is gone

man

ill just cheat in the bag

bro what

solyn crashes my game

[cedar hollow]

uh uh uhhhh

[rose spindle]

lmao

[cedar hollow]

you gotta get permission from ND first..

[rose spindle]

solyn has an aura where i cant get near her or my game crashes

😭

[cedar hollow]

skill issue you just stink

shower then rejoin the game

/j

[rose spindle]

i think its cause im using rogue

my bad g

[cedar hollow]

no rogue is like really strong

that aint why

[rose spindle]

i didnt think turbulence can shred slime god tho

ill disable mods that i think are causing it

wotm and npcs dont die?

only mods that i have on are calamity, infernum, wotg, and small common qol like recipe browser

and heros cheatsheet

solyn aura still exists 😭

why is she even in the crimson bro

[dim prawn]

play with even less mods or get a cpu with better single core performance

[rose spindle]

i rlly dont wanna restart this world

i hate pre hard mode already

looking at solyn like this

[frank mauve]

[torpid axle]

I just beat mars and planted the artificial seed, now what?
(Calamity wrath of the gods)

[indigo patio]

Beat scal and talk to solyn

[torpid axle]

Ok

[cedar hollow]

fake sun tzu

i'm the real one

"an apple a day keeps the doctor away"

[frank mauve]

wron

[rose spindle]

infernum slime god is so buggy

why does he get to final phase if crim slime falls to its death at phase 1

[toxic vault]

does calamity wrath of gods not work anymore?

[rose spindle]

its working for me

[indigo patio]

Is it though? Doesn't your solyn have an aura that crashes the game if you get to close?

[frank bluff]

live reaction:

[lucid rapids]

Bruh yall what are some good optimization mods for calamity I’ve asked this 5 times over the last few days with no answer 😭

[indigo patio]

There really isn't. You either can run cal or you can't. There are some that remove particles and extreme weapon visual effects. But nothing is going to magically improve it drastically

[azure bane]

does infernum mode music not have a toggle for the acid rain music

cuz i do not fw this

[toxic vault]

anybody else getting this with Wrath of gods or no?

[lucid rapids]

Thank you

[heady anvil]

no

[cedar hollow]

how do i make the fancy mod list appear on my screen

[neon stag]

Double click f8

[cedar hollow]

can these casters literally go suck toes

stg

bee enchant with the bee stinger is so good

but being good doesnt save you from bs sadly

[amber elk]

whats better for summon staff of necroscytes or hering staff

[cedar hollow]

neither

vile feeder is goated

[amber elk]

are you shitposting

[cedar hollow]

i'm being dead ass it's somewhat viable in early hard mode

necro is only good if you like

sweat

[fast nacelle]

What boss

[amber elk]

its doing like 400

[amber elk]

slime gods and wof

[fast nacelle]

Yeah which one

[cedar hollow]

wof is necro

[fast nacelle]

It hugely depends

[fast nacelle]

Yeah

[amber elk]

uhh slime gods

[fast nacelle]

Only if you have platforms tho

[fast nacelle]

Ok vile feeder

[cedar hollow]

necro can shred if you do the right strat

vile feeder is just stronger than herring

[amber elk]

kk

[fast nacelle]

50 second wall of something like that 🤤

Probably less

Cuz it’s summoner

[cedar hollow]

uh you can get lower on tier...

[amber elk]

what about eye of night

[cedar hollow]

idk

[fast nacelle]

Worse than like every weapon in the recipe

It’s mid as hell for a summoner weapon

[cedar hollow]

yeah that's what i suspected

[fast nacelle]

I remember when it was like ludicrously broken

At release

Good times

[amber elk]

zam 800 with necro

[cedar hollow]

i remember..

back in the days...

[fast nacelle]

Of like

1.5

[amber elk]

vile feeder is like 350

[cedar hollow]

vile feeder is like really good single target till like early hard mode when it's basically on screen strength

[cedar hollow]

ignore dps meter

it's not reliable

[fast nacelle]

Dps isn’t reliable

[cedar hollow]

kill times are how you dictate the strength

[amber elk]

what if i minion mix

[fast nacelle]

Would you rather have a one shot nuke that does 100 dps or a weapon that kills the boss in 50 seconds

[fast nacelle]

Only worth if the best summon is limited to a specific count of minions

Or most effective on a specific count of minions

Such as cosmic worm staff

[cedar hollow]

that's a booty comparison

d
/

[fast nacelle]

Yeah it’s exaggerated as hell but it shows the reasoning for dps meter sucking

Also dps meter is calculated really weirdly

[cedar hollow]

dps meter ignores debuffs i believe

so if your main damage is debuffs it shows as like

"50 dps"

[amber elk]

for some reason my summoner friend takes no damage?

[cedar hollow]

when you do around 250

[amber elk]

he was like ight next to daytime skele and not working

[fast nacelle]

Ah multiplayer

Yeah skeletron is shit in multiplayer so no wonder

[cedar hollow]

i hate skeletron when he regrows his hands

[fast nacelle]

I love skeletron when

Always

It’s my favorite boss

No reason

:3

[cedar hollow]

so your favorite boss is a 394 damage dealing bag of bones with 4 arms?

[fast nacelle]

Yes

My username is literally Skellitron

[cedar hollow]

i will find your sandwich

and kill it

[fast nacelle]

Wtf

[amber elk]

no he takes no damage overall

[fast nacelle]

Yeah

Multiplayer

[amber elk]

dam slime god gets cooked

so is there any fix

[fast nacelle]

Play in single player

[cedar hollow]

does this world also include wotg..?

i love getting instakilled by inflated hitboxes

i hate casters

why does maso make casters literally the most insufferable add in the world

[amber elk]

no

[cedar hollow]

good

still play singleplayer

YES

for yall who don't know he turns into a dungeon guardian as a desp phase

so i was like

so scared

[amber elk]

chat firecracker or cool whip

[neon stag]

Whipstack both

[amber elk]

and what about the unoff cal whips one

prism break

[cedar hollow]

iirc that's actually a catalyst one

[amber elk]

life fruits spawn beginning hardmode right?

[cedar hollow]

yes

[amber elk]

catalyst nerfs them so i dont use it

[cedar hollow]

either catalyst includes prism break and it isn't exclusive to that mod or smth's going on here

[cedar laurel]

Good for hitting lot of enemies

[neon stag]

No idea, I dont use any class specific addons cuz theyre usually op

[cedar hollow]

uncover that rq

[amber elk]

BRO UNOFFICIAL CALAMITY WHIPS MERGED WITH CATALYSTS

[fast nacelle]

Yeah

[neon stag]

UCW is very inbalanced for example

[cedar hollow]

uncover that whip

[fast nacelle]

It’s neat

[neon stag]

summoner is already strong enough, it just tips the scales even more

[cedar laurel]

Big whip

[cedar hollow]

if it's the one i remember it's the best pre-hardmode whip

[amber elk]

no

[fast nacelle]

They removed the most busted whips tho

[amber elk]

its the giant clam drop

[fast nacelle]

They somehow made a better Kaleidoscope and it’s pre moon lord

[cedar laurel]

slow and Kinda bigger than morning star or something

[fast nacelle]

Also infinite flight and infinite healing and extra defense

[cedar hollow]

i remember using prism break against skeletron

and it melted him

[cedar laurel]

Catalyst made it pre hm I think

[cedar hollow]

whip stack them

[cedar hollow]

that's probably fucking why it deleted skeletron

[cedar laurel]

I mean it’s nerfed but i remember it being good still

[cedar hollow]

also how did skeletron take less attempts than cursed coffin

that is dastardly

[fast nacelle]

All catalyst whips are like worse than vanilla whips

[cedar hollow]

except prism break

[fast nacelle]

Not really it’s kinda just a side grade

[cedar hollow]

it was my strongest one in pre-hard mode till like wall of flesh and even then

it was still good

[cedar laurel]

Slime god whip is fun

[cedar hollow]

i hate that one purely cause i only get it when i'm not summoner

[fast nacelle]

The problem with catalyst whips is that they only give a small amount of extra damage

Which vanilla whips do

[cedar hollow]

kaleidoscope gives like

3000000000000000000000000000% damage

i think

estimatedly

[fast nacelle]

1.23x damage

[cedar hollow]

nah

[fast nacelle]

And it stack with all damage modifiers

So it’s like

A dimensional soul artifact

Also stacks with other multipliers

Such as Morningstar

Making it do 1.49x damage

Which is

[cedar hollow]

4 whip combo

[fast nacelle]

Only stacks up to three

[cedar hollow]

for max pain

[fast nacelle]

I think

Maybe two

[cedar laurel]

Gotta dislike how most of them doesn’t even buff summons

[cedar hollow]

no no no

like

the hallowed whip

the morning star

kaleidoscope

and i forgot the other one

[fast nacelle]

Yeah I think the final whip (the exhumed KALEIDOSCOPE) only gives like 5 tag damage

Yeah the other one

[cedar hollow]

gobflogger is better than kaleidoscope tho

fr

[fast nacelle]

Go figure

[fast nacelle]

It’s 1k double attack speed Kaleidoscope that actually gives minion damage

[cedar laurel]

atleast they look cool

[cobalt pier]

Kaleid isn't even the best whip from vanilla for cal

[fast nacelle]

Technically Morningstar

[cedar hollow]

don't lie to yoself

[proper peak]

is it firecracker?

[cedar hollow]

it's obviously leather

[cobalt pier]

Yuh

[fast nacelle]

Unfortunately not

[neon stag]

Yes bro

[cobalt pier]

[fast nacelle]

I think that Kaleidoscope is better since longer range and higher damage from the main weapon

[proper peak]

firecracker is my favorite whip

[fast nacelle]

But you can still use both

[cobalt pier]

It loses starting at polter

[fast nacelle]

So doesn’t matter

[cedar hollow]

leather whip is the strongest because it makes bosses feel past childhood trauma

[cedar laurel]

New calamity whip mod in workshop

[proper peak]

wait I thought the firecracker's bonus scaled to the damage of whatever summon you are using

making it stronger than morningstar for high damage summons

[fast nacelle]

Atp the enemies is out of range (or for dog the main parts that takes damage are too far away) so you Kaleidoscope is better

[neon stag]

[cedar hollow]

just get kaleidoscope pre-hard mode noob

[fast nacelle]

But if you make Morningstar work it is better

[cedar laurel]

+35% damage for the explosion in cal I think

[fast nacelle]

Ye

[cedar laurel]

But it’s like slow+short and other whips are more consistent

[proper peak]

thats still a 35% damage boost

[fast nacelle]

Maybe +40% but doesn’t matter

[cedar hollow]

why would you use this

[proper peak]

I mean the ability to crit is important

[fast nacelle]

It’s good for the worms

[cedar laurel]

Tru

[fast nacelle]

You would if you didn’t have a default dash

[neon stag]

For the aura

[cedar hollow]

nah

[cedar laurel]

You don’t

[cedar hollow]

i wouldn't use it even if i didn't have a default dash

[fast nacelle]

I’ve used deer sinew for one of my no hits iirc

[cedar laurel]

Worst ever

[cedar hollow]

cause you don't get hit

so the only debuff is less damage

which helps for mnl

[cobalt pier]

It's been tested and proven kaleid is still worse

[fast nacelle]

Yeah it’s really only for no hits

[fast nacelle]

Fair enough

[neon stag]

Its rare to see you talk in addon chat

[cedar hollow]

also i'm doing bosses in order of the checklist

[fast nacelle]

The migration to cat

[cedar hollow]

so i have to do deer clops next

[cobalt pier]

I don't like it here, most people are idiots

[fast nacelle]

They’re either busted or worthless

[neon stag]

Truth nuke

Actually

[fast nacelle]

I should like

Try it when I get home tomorrow

Tbh

[cedar hollow]

how dare you

[cedar laurel]

5 new whips accessories it’s peak already

[cedar hollow]

says a very kind and respectful word to you

[fast nacelle]

That’s my favorite part of ucw tbh

I really liked the accessories

Especially the leaf one

[cedar laurel]

Like using those with catalyst whips

[amber elk]

whats the best range gun early hm

[fast nacelle]

Coin gun

Midas prime is good too

Otherwise like

Express rifle

If it’s still in the game

I forgot

[cedar laurel]

Onyx blaster if you could grind for it

[neon stag]

coin gun

[fast nacelle]

I hate getting light and dark shard dude

So much

I don’t wanna corrupt my deserts I build in them dude

[dense eagle]

You can always clear it

[neon stag]

For an actual answer, sea’s searing.

[fast nacelle]

Yeah but I’m lazy as frick dude

[dense eagle]

Or if you arent playing on infernum, kill great sand shark

[fast nacelle]

Also I like putting hallowed and pure blocks for the texture

[fast nacelle]

That’s very inefficient for early hardmode onyx blaster

[neon stag]

Sand shark is very easy tbf

He wouldnt be that hard to kill post wof

[cedar hollow]

dude don't reccomend coin gun..

[fast nacelle]

Only thing is that you literally can’t

[neon stag]

^^

[fast nacelle]

It’s the second best ranger weapon !!

Like ever

[cedar hollow]

but like

[neon stag]

Im pretty sure you can do him pre wof…

[cedar hollow]

that ruin the entire game if they stockpile plat

till like moon lord

[fast nacelle]

No it’s locked behind planterra

[fast nacelle]

I recommended Midas prime and express rifle too

Oh I forgot buzzkill

Damn

[neon stag]

No hes not?? 😭

[fast nacelle]

Yes he is??

[neon stag]

Hes locked behind cultist

not plantera

[fast nacelle]

Fucjing

[cedar laurel]

Infernum rot

[fast nacelle]

Basecal

Not infernum

[neon stag]

ngl I thought you mean bereft vassal

[cedar hollow]

midas prime is the fun but honestly not that effective gun imo

[neon stag]

Seas searing is the undisputed goat of early hm

[fast nacelle]

It’s good paired with other guns

Cuz Midas bullets let you use both

But kinda hard to use

I like Midas prime tho

[cedar hollow]

midas prime

[fast nacelle]

One of my favorite weapons

[cedar hollow]

midas is money man

[fast nacelle]

You can pick it up after….

[cedar hollow]

sisyphus is greedy and wants big money

midas prime = sisyphus prime

[fast nacelle]

No that’s not Sisyphus

[cedar hollow]

nah ultrakill

[fast nacelle]

It would be cool if p3 would have Midas prime tho

[fast nacelle]

Yeah I know

[cedar hollow]

he big money

[fast nacelle]

Sisyphus just isn’t greedy

I mean he is

But not with money

And riches

More as in

[cedar hollow]

sisyphus is greedy because he took up all the machines people wanted to use just to be an asshole

[fast nacelle]

Idk

[cedar hollow]

in the gym

and still has a dad bod

[cedar hollow]

power

i believe

[fast nacelle]

Yeah

Tho I think he kinda knew that he couldn’t beat heaven

[cedar hollow]

the sand in the greed layer is molten gold i believe

so sisyphus prime is actually ballin

[fast nacelle]

Lowkey forgot about that

Bro is the baller

[amber elk]

are these many minion slots normal or am i missing out on smth

[cedar hollow]

wym

[neon stag]

[amber elk]

shit forgot to send immage

i have only 4 slots?

[neon stag]

are you playing summoner,

[amber elk]

(getting spider armour)

[amber elk]

ofc

i dontt have spider armour yet but still

[cedar hollow]

brother

[fast nacelle]

Are u using summoner potion and bewitching table

[cedar hollow]

do you have no summon acc

[neon stag]

Well you should have one naturally, one from summoning pot and one from bewitching table

[fast nacelle]

No he does most probably

Hopefully I mean

Summon accessories so busted

[cedar hollow]

spider armor gives 3 summons iirc

so he doesnt

[amber elk]

yeah

[cedar hollow]

excuse me what

[amber elk]

alr so these are my accs

[neon stag]

What the frigg is bro running

[amber elk]

what?

[neon stag]

This is infernum correct?

[amber elk]

yeah

[cedar hollow]

shield of cthulhu should just ban you from playing infernum i think

especially in hard mode

[amber elk]

alr two more accs

oh yeah shit

basically

[neon stag]

fairy wings, fairy boots, deep diver, giant tortoise shell, first shadowflame and nuclear fuel rod

[amber elk]

my friend rushed wof

and i forgor

[cedar hollow]

ew

[amber elk]

kk

[neon stag]

Use spider armor for now

[fast nacelle]

Get deep diver and pauldron and fairy boots and first shadow flame and jelly battery

[neon stag]

I would do spider -> daedalus -> valhalla knight for armor

[fast nacelle]

Nuclear fuel rod over battery when you can get it

[fast nacelle]

Imo tiki post plant

But fair

[neon stag]

tiki is just worse than spooky/hydrothermic/valhalla knight

[frank bluff]

how to infernum Devourer of DoGs

[neon stag]

I guess if you use lesf wings the dryads blessing is nice

[cedar hollow]

but the wings buff

[fast nacelle]

Yeah but it’s fun

[amber elk]

also do i run ancient ice chunk

[frank bluff]

i used tarragon set

[fast nacelle]

And also no

[neon stag]

Gives less stats than valhalla knight

[fast nacelle]

It isn’t

[fast nacelle]

Yeah no shit

It’s Valhalla

[cedar hollow]

valhalla knight is annoying

[fast nacelle]

It’s balanced from people not wanting to use sentries

[neon stag]

Use it for AS then use deep sea

[cedar hollow]

cause nobody like old one's army

[neon stag]

Okay so why are we recommending tiki

[fast nacelle]

Oh yeah @amber elk Use old ones army accessories

[frank bluff]

I'm being fr

[fast nacelle]

Cuz valhalla is post golem

[neon stag]

I can help, what class are you?

[frank bluff]

like I'm struggling on first phase

[frank bluff]

mage

used i forgot what's called

uhhh

[neon stag]

Can you post loadout

[fast nacelle]

Do you remember the craft

Or how to get it

[amber elk]

use the old duke weapon

[neon stag]

Vitriolic viper is probably best for inf dog

[neon stag]

^^^

[fast nacelle]

The shadow bouncy weapon is best if you’re in a box

[frank bluff]

@neon stag

[fast nacelle]

But vitriolic viper otherwise yeah

[amber elk]

use omega blue

[cedar hollow]

how to.. infernum devourer of dogs..?

[amber elk]

vitriolic viper

[fast nacelle]

Cherished sealocket and omega blue

[amber elk]

flesh totem

amalgam

sponge

[frank bluff]

i don't want to use omega blue 😭

[fast nacelle]

Post dog

[amber elk]

cherished sealocket

[amber elk]

its goated tf

[frank bluff]

and I don't want to use sealocket

[cedar hollow]

nah

[amber elk]

oh wait yeah

[fast nacelle]

It’s really good in infernum

[frank bluff]

but no positive regen

[cedar hollow]

sponge is pre-providence goofyyyy

[frank bluff]

so that's why i think it's ass

[fast nacelle]

Dies

[cedar hollow]

don't reccomend omega blue to newbies

[fast nacelle]

Yeah and with hyper aggressive bosses you regen an average of like 20 hp/s either way

[fast nacelle]

This is infernum dude

[cedar hollow]

omega blue is for people that can glass cannon

[frank bluff]

yeah no

[fast nacelle]

It isn’t in infernum

[frank bluff]

I can't glass cannon

i kept getting hits here and there

[fast nacelle]

Also cherished sealocket and amalgam should take care of glass cannon problems

[cedar hollow]

so

[frank bluff]

I can't get amalgam rn

[cedar hollow]

which

is it

[fast nacelle]

Amalgam-ated brain

[amber elk]

whast with my dps

[cedar hollow]

ignore

that

[frank bluff]

Devourer of DoGs is pain in my ass

[cedar hollow]

we alr told you

[neon stag]

Vitriolic viper & omega blue armor

• elysian wings
• elysian aegis
• amalgamated brain
• flesh totem
• sigil of calamitas
• no idea about the rest LOL just use whatever, sealocket is pretty good, RTN isnt something I recommend but its not bad

[cedar hollow]

devourer of gods

[frank bluff]

ik

i did that for funny

[neon stag]

If youre struggling with the dodging pattern I can help with that aswell

[fast nacelle]

Ambriosal with omega blue is peak